"Deadly Russian systems" forced the United States to change fighter equipment

The US Navy intends to equip the fleet of Super Hornet and Growler with larger capacity fuel tanks, which will increase the range of the wing.

Explaining the equipment of the F / A-18 Hornet fighter jets and the EA-18 Growler electronic warfare aircraft of the US Navy with fuel tanks, expert Eric Wertheim said that this was necessary because of the threat from Russia.

Wertheim, who is an expert on naval issues aviation, stated that for a long time the US Navy did not face threats comparable to those that appeared during the Cold War. However, in the last 5–10 years, threats have begun to emerge in the form of “new deadly Chinese and Russian weapons systems,” NavyTimes quoted him as saying.

We were so focused on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that we forgot about the serious problems

- declared Wertheim.

Experts directly associate plans to increase the range of American fighter aircraft with reports of a significant increase in the range of Russian anti-ship missiles. In such conditions, for successful interception of Russian missile-carrying planes, American fighters need to increase the range to at least 1,1 thousand. At the moment, the range of the F-18 is about 700 km.

In the middle of February, the Pentagon stated that the United States was alarmed at the development of new cruise missiles in Russia, which allegedly were capable of hitting targets for much greater distances than before.

Before this, there was information that the Russian anti-ship missile 3М55 of the Onyx complex can reach the launch range in 800 km, and possibly 1 thousand km, reports Vzglyad

Comments

[Vard]

Well ... well ... Let's see ... How will they intercept our missiles ... Deck aviation flies almost without weapons to such a radius ...

[himRa]

Quote: Vard

Well ... well ... we'll see

The eternal struggle of the sword and shield?

[penal battalion]

The eternal struggle of the sword and shield?

Exactly! Just the new Shields in the series and launched ...

In Russia, mass production of a new generation anti-aircraft missile system has begun. On February 26, the TASS news agency reported that the Nizhny Novgorod Engineering Plant had begun production of Prometheus S-500 missile systems.

[Falcond]

This is all good ... but there is still really no long-range missile for the S-400

[shans2]

they didn’t report to you, but in 2016 she hit a target of 380 km, BGG

[penal battalion]

I will tell you more in November 2017 77N6-1N intercepted an air target at a distance of 640 km.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

Quote: Vard

Well ... well ... Let's see ... How will they intercept our missiles ... Deck aviation flies almost without weapons to such a radius ...

Does anyone really think about intercepting RCC. If the massacre begins, the main work will be done by ICBMs, and after their strike there will be nothing to defend (I hope North America will no longer be). Yes, and it's time to strike.

[zivXP]

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

I hope North America will be gone

Lavrenty Pavlovich, and who is in this very North America is not all our people?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

If the massacre begins, the main work will be done by ICBMs, and after their strike there will be nothing to protect (I hope North America will no longer be)

if it comes to that then a lot of things will not be.

[Falcond]

Does anyone really think about intercepting RCC. If the massacre begins, the main work will be done by ICBMs, and after their strike there will be nothing to defend (I hope North America will no longer be). Yes, and it's time to strike.

Cool your head ... otherwise teenage maximalism is rushing!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Vard

Let's see ... How will they intercept our missiles ...

In general, it’s clear.
I am more concerned about how our PKR will break through to the goal ... For, here the problem of the mobile air defense region (frontier) arises to its full potential. To have a continuous radar field, you need the Prowler / Growler to hang 450-500 km from the AVM and rotate it with his shovel ... Then the depth will be of the order of 1000km. If we have a Leader type EM with a drenched C-500, then the flashlight will have few chances ... But so far we have nothing long-armed to remove the DLO ... Does it remain from space? What if they knock down / score? Boats - an option, but the discreteness of the issuance of the control unit ... It may not be enough for a reliable missile salvo with the provided D ...
Damn, there are problems around ... And how is our naval leadership going to solve them without providing reliable command and control forces, and anti-missile defense missile defense systems, if the "flashlight" is not destroyed?

[sabakina]

Boa KAA, well written, it remains only to translate into a normal, civilian language.

[Kent0001]

So people immediately understood everything ...

[Falcond]

The KAA boa in a hair dryer is working .., i.e. under the smart mow))

[poquello]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

how our anti-ship missiles will break through to the goal ... For here, in full growth, the problem of the mobile air defense region (line) arises. To have a continuous radar field, you need the Prowler / Growler to hang 450-500 km from the AVM and rotate it with your shovel ... Then the depth will be about 1000 km. If we have an EM like Leader with an oversized S-500, then the flashlight will have few chances ... But so far we have nothing long-armed to remove the DLO ...

So are you talking about a breakthrough or about guidance?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: poquello

Are you talking about a breakthrough or about guidance?

Actually, I'm talking about the battle ... Or rather, the operation to defeat the AMG to the line of aviation recovery ...
And there will be no guidance: for a long time, everything has been built on the principle of “shot and forgot” (or “scored”). And then RCC will fly into the radar field ... And it’s not the fact that the RCC electronics will master the avionics of the AWACS aircraft ... And you also need to overcome the EOS, albeit with supersonic ... but the question remains open ...

[dauria]

Actually, I'm talking about the battle ... Or rather, the operation to defeat the AMG to the line of aviation recovery ...

So it was sad before, and now it’s not better. Only the line moves - 400 km, 900 km, 1100 km. The only strange thing is that they fucked their F-14s with the Phoenixes. The car turned out. It was evidently decided in the 90s that the United States did not have enemies standing.

[Operator]

The X-32 anti-ship airborne cruise missile with a range of 1000 km and a speed of 5400 km / h is not intercepted by ship’s air defense / missile defense from the word at all.

With the adoption of the X-32 and its carrier, the Tu-22М3М of the Russian Aerospace Forces put a bolt on all Hokai, Aegis, Superhornets, F-35 and SM-3 combined.

[MadCat]

Quote: Operator

The X-32 airborne anti-ship cruise missile with a range of 1000 km and a speed of 5400 km / h is not intercepted by ship’s air defense / missile defense in general
With the adoption of the X-32 and its carrier, the Tu-22М3М of the Russian Aerospace Forces put a bolt on all Hokai, Aegis, Superhornets, F-35 and SM-3 combined.

when they take it or build at least a couple of prototypes then make super conclusions, and you can’t get the drawn projection projects.

[Operator]

Abydny, yeahhhh?

Study the message of the President of the Russian Federation.

[MadCat]

Quote: Operator

Abydny, yeahhhh?

Study the message of the President of the Russian Federation.

5+ boltology especially before the election, wait and see what kind of people there aren’t analogous to the world

[poquello]

Quote: MadCat

Quote: Operator

Abydny, yeahhhh?

Study the message of the President of the Russian Federation.

5+ boltology especially before the election, wait and see what kind of people there aren’t analogous to the world

ett is not chatter, ett is a really tested weapon, but according to technology - another effective breakthrough, a device with a nuclear dvigol flies, hang out

[Operator]

MadCat - a fan of American AUG and other technological sludge, he X-32, "Dagger" and "Vanguard" as a sickle in this very place.

Nothing, hurt, falling in love

[Operator]

From December 1 to 2017, the dagger supersonic aeroballistic missile with a flight range of over 2000 km of air-based (carrier - MiG-31) was put on pilot combat duty.

[Alex777]

Boa KAA! The growler is a jammer. At 100 km. based on the F-18.
What you mean is called Hokai.
Hokai - Aircraft AWACS. On F-18 is completely different.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Alex777

Hokai - Aircraft AWACS. On F-18 is completely different.

I saw live Hokai, in due time ...
But for the correction - thanks ... Although the head is now completely different, blunders are unforgivable ... I agree.

[Falcond]

But as summed up)))

[mvg]

Growler has a "shovel" problem, it simply does not exist. Hokey has a plate, it is about the same radius and is bartering. There are 4 of them in the air group. You can ensure constant patrolling in a dangerous direction. He will notice the leader at 500-600 km. Weakened anti-aircraft defense we get worse than land. It’s hard to bring down Hokai. Yes, and you still have to go to the AUG. But the F-18/35 with the Groler suppression aircraft will attack the Leader at a radius of 1000 + range AGM-158 or Harpoon. More bases around the world from which Sentry will take off. Same with the "shovel".
Total: completely tasteless. Only a nuclear submarine with a vigorous loaf or ICBM, like the Chinese DF-41

[Romario_Argo]

target designation perfectly gives ZGRLS type Monolith,
the exercises were held that ZGRLS issued a command center on a low-flying target: an altitude of less than 500 meters and a range of 150 km. Again, no one RCC did not shoot at the “aircraft”. ZGRLS was interfaced with Fort air defense missile systems through the BIUS TARK, so that the missiles worked on the control center from the ZRLLS for RCC
and yes, the "cosmos" calmly gives the TSU

[vkfriendly]

I think your reasoning is at the level of the layman, and leave these problems to specialists to decide, I think they better understand the situation and measures have already been taken, but they did not report this to you.

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Damn, there are problems around ... And how is our naval leadership going to solve them without providing reliable command and control forces, and anti-missile defense missile defense systems, if the "flashlight" is not destroyed?

I support. There are enough problems, but let’s take into account that mattresses have even more problems, given that we are building a defensive system in priority, and they are offensive and they need a multiple advantage in order to break through our defense, which they still cannot achieve, despite to upgrade my military budget. As for the problem of aircraft carriers, for example, we can use tactical nuclear weapons for their aircraft carriers, then the issue of accuracy is not so acute and the issue with their airship and carrier-based aircraft is solved with one swatter. Well and further it is possible to bring counterarguments. Therefore problems, it is necessary to solve, but they are not fatal.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Vard

Well ... well ... Let's see ... How will they intercept our missiles ... Deck aviation flies almost without weapons to such a radius ...

will intercept ... tanks of larger capacity !!!

[Geksagena]

What are you speaking about? Gorespets. You can’t even master an article? They are not going to intercept cruise missiles, which is pointless and difficult, but missile carriers such as swans and bears. To do this, they need to fly further than launching the cruise missile range. Just a good concept of contactless defeat should not be implemented on a fighter like on the F-35, but on strategists with hypersound.

[himRa]

Don’t you give me money? Where can I inflate the budget !!?

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: himRa

Don’t you give me money? Where can I inflate the budget !!?

you see by the rain - if you don’t have time to sniff now, soon everything may break off, the cat senses whose meat has eaten

[poquello]

Quote: himRa

Don’t you give me money? Where can I inflate the budget !!?

drawing candy wrappers continues to gain momentum, the world is waving

[Sands Careers General]

It’s ridiculous to look at these decked pregnant cockroaches with extra fuel tanks.

[taiga2018]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

It’s ridiculous to look at these decked pregnant cockroaches with extra fuel tanks.

With each increase in the flight range of our missiles will they hang additional tanks? And where will they hang weapons? Or will the main thing be for them to dodge the rocket? As children, when they play catch-up: I didn’t catch! I didn’t catch!

[Sands Careers General]

Be sure to catch and catch up))

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: Sands Career General

It’s ridiculous to look at these decked pregnant cockroaches with extra fuel tanks.

all is well - weapons cannot be put on the external suspension

[NN52]

Sands Careers General

Do you even understand what kind of aircraft in the photo? And why does he need so much fuel //
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[Reserve buildbat]

And what is wrong? In the photo, as I understand it, the EA-18 Growler is notorious. I remember that they also included PRRLS missiles, including))) Although they are useless for defending an ASG from a missile attack and it is better to increase the range and time of patrols. BUT (!) How much will the characteristics of aircraft fall? Could it be that the range with a doubled (conditionally) fuel supply will increase by 5-10%?)))

[Cheldon]

Naturally, weight increases, drag, in general, a barge

Quote: stock buildbat

And what is wrong? In the photo, as I understand it, the EA-18 Growler is notorious. I remember that they also included PRRLS missiles, including))) Although they are useless for defending an ASG from a missile attack and it is better to increase the range and time of patrols. BUT (!) How much will the characteristics of aircraft fall? Could it be that the range with a doubled (conditionally) fuel supply will increase by 5-10%?)))

[sabakina]

And what is wrong? 5 PTB ...

[Sands Careers General]

I don’t give a damn about a plane from a high bell tower. I expressed my opinion.

[Falcond]

It is felt from the commentary that you are an expert in naval aviation .., or, at least in animal husbandry)))

[Igor V]

"We were so concentrated on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that we forgot about serious problems."
Well, of course, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are nonsense, not serious problems! True, they cannot be completed in any way. What will happen to the serious problems?

[Vasyan1971]

"" Deadly Russian systems "forced the United States to change the equipment of fighters."
Dengi, Dengi, come on!

[Ascetic]

But what about the deck penguin? They didn’t bring it to mind ... but the Hornets modernization programs have not been launched. Now they scratch their turnips. Either bring the expensive penguin or upgrade the proven Hornet

[demo]

We were so focused on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that we forgot about the serious problems
- declared Wertheim.


Yes guys. This is not for you to bomb the Papuans.
Here you yourself can be lowered from heaven to earth.
Fast, though.

[Some kind of compote]

Deadly.
This is our way

[Sverdlov]

Fear ki!
Ub
People

[Cheldon]

Quote: Sverdlov

Fear ki!
Ub
People

We must also add inglorious.

[Denis Obukhov]

Enough of scaring yourself already. Found the news. Everything has long been known. If you suspend tanks, it means less weapons. And let it fly 500 km further, but not with grenades, but with a pistol. More weight, less maneuverability and easier to bring down. Above (ka already mentioned below) radar signature and so on. This is all nonsense.

[Yngvar]

That's all the time with the "partners"! Then XP en long, then shorts short ...

[Andrey Ivanov]

In such circumstances, for the successful interception of Russian missile carriers by American fighters, it is necessary to increase the range to at least 1,1 thousand km. Currently, the radius of the F-18 is about 700 km.

I apologize for the allegory, but it will not work out with these tanks in the same way as with a mouse that sewed elephant eggs?

[Operator]

It’ll not help a damn thing: the radius of the Su-35С flight without outboard fuel tanks is 1800 km, with PTB - 2250 km.

Physical education hello F-35C with a flight radius of 1260 km: "Arctic fox crept up not noticeably" (C)

[Falcond]

And where will the Su-35 take off ???

[Piramidon]

Are they going to fly without weapons, only they will carry kerosene in the PTB?

[Reserve buildbat]

I have two questions:
1. And how much will the characteristics of aircraft with such tanks fall?
2. US Navy intends to equip fleet of Super Hornet and Growler aircraft with fuel tanks bigger[i] [/ i] capacity, which will increase the radius of the wing. Author and editors / proofreaders, etc. are familiar with the Russian language only by hearsay?

[sir_obs]

weapons, he will definitely take less by the weight of additional topoiva.

[Zubr]

Yes, for God's sake let them increase, but the combat load will naturally decrease, maneuverability, naturally combat effectiveness.

[Falcond]

Increases radio visibility

[afrikanez]

Amerikosov and so all planes are hung like "Christmas trees" with these tanks. Where is even more then, and where to put weapons?

[Falcond]

So immediately launch the tanker)

[Falcond]

That's what the news is about ???

The “deadly Russian systems” forced the United States:
- change the equipment of fighters;
- purchase the Oplot tank from Ukraine;
- continue to create hypersonic weapons;
- increase the land grouping in Europe;
- develop new tactical nuclear weapons;
- Adopt Montenegro as part of NATO;
- deploy missile defense systems in Romania;
- extend the life of SB B-52;
- etc.;
- etc...
- and something else...

News from the air ...

[Wolka]

but "pregnant" American flyers also burn well, even from a stick ...