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Project "ZZ". Youth for Putin. Or for iPhone?

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Kremlin advisers are trying to make a pre-election bet on young people. Especially on those who were born in 1999 — 2000 and who have already turned eighteen. For those who recently received the right to vote. For those who will give this voice of March 18 to the elections - and, possibly, will not give him at all for Putin. March 3 will be a mass event in support of Putin. Media and forums report that those who come to the rally "For a strong Russia!" Rally in Luzhniki will receive 500 rubles.



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Hundreds of thousands of teenagers and young people who have lived their whole young lives under Putin’s rule are now in the midst of election battles, writes in «The Times» journalist Tom Perfitt.

18-year-olds are “generation P,” the author says ironically. These young people were born just that year, when Putin first took a high post. Now this youth has the right to vote in elections. Therefore, boys and girls are a “target group” for advisers leading the presidential campaign. After all, these eighteen-year-olds are “vulnerable” - both for apathy and protest moods.

Through its campaign, the Kremlin is trying to appeal to "continuity", thereby opposing the opposition, which calls for something else: not to vote in elections.

The position of Putin's consultants and advisers to the British journalist is understandable. Some of the young people are loyal supporters of Navalny and his associates. It is also easy to explain their election “rage”: the Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was not allowed to register as a candidate for the presidency. It is for this reason that Navalny called for a boycott of the elections.

This does not mean that everyone will obey Navalny and will not vote on March 18.

The material of the journalist cites the opinions of some young people. These are eighteen-year-old students who attended a class on journalism, conducted by the pro-Kremlin organization Network. All five told a British correspondent that March 18 will vote.

E. Kafizova openly admitted that she would vote "for Putin." Why? She "likes stability."

A. Trubina answered otherwise: she is ready to give her voice to Ksenia Sobchak. "Stability" Trubin ridicules. According to her, you can talk about "stability", but the grandmothers in Russia live in poverty, and people in the very country where "the bulk of oil and gas" receive pensions of eight thousand rubles. In such a country, something goes wrong. “I want a change,” she says.

M. Pantuahina will give a voice to Putin - and just because Russia is “not ready for sudden changes”. At the same time, it cannot be said that she unconditionally trusts Putin and Medvedev, who constitute the “line”. According to her, “the Putin-Medvedev line, Putin-Medvedev should stop at a certain moment.” What is this moment? Unknown.

D. Nurgaliev is a supporter of A. Navavlny and even works at the Navalny headquarters in the city of Kazan. He will do as Navalny orders. The young man is going to boycott the elections.

According to him, citizens should be drawn into the protest movement. He believes that "every citizen", sooner or later, "must" be drawn into this movement, since the "horror" of reality concerns everyone. Therefore, "you realize that you must resist the authorities."

The correspondent reminds that for the sake of the appearance of the youth on the day of the election concerts will take place near the polling stations. Back in January, the journalist points out, a “Kremlin document” got into the press, in which it was reported that at the contests for “selfies” at the polling stations, the best authors would receive valuable prizes: iPhones and iPads.

If you wander through the Moscow forums, we note, then you can find references not only about iPhones.

Look at the screenshot below. It is made on the morning of February 28. This is a picture of a network forum about making money on shoots and promotions. "Extras". The page theme has already been closed, but the content has been preserved.



The page is dedicated to the recruitment of participants of the rally-concert at the Luzhniki Stadium in Moscow. March 3 in support of the candidacy of Vladimir Putin in the upcoming elections will be held a rally "For a strong Russia." Public participation is required.

Collecting wishing assigned to 13 hours. The concert will take place at 14 hours. For participation in the event promise a fee of five hundred rubles.

Only a few comments with names and data are attached to the message. Obviously, few Muscovites hurry to support candidate Putin over five hundred.

However, there is another, apparently much more effective way to gather a "one hundred thousandth" rally in honor of the candidate.

According to the Telegram channel Protest MoscowThe students of the GUU (State Management University) are “invited” to come to Luzhniki for a “concert”.

The channel reminds that the secretary of United Russia Andrei Turchak recently reported that a rally in support of Putin will be held in Luzhniki. “We have learned,” the channel informs, “that preparations for the rally are already in full swing. And in the best tradition of "United Russia".

“GUUs on VKontakte send messages to students about the 3 March concert in Luzhniki, to which Putin may arrive. Therefore, there will be an FSO check and, in order to get to this beautiful concert, you need to send your full name, passport details and registration. How do you like techno? [...] Each institute (and there are only ten of them in the GUU) is required to send ten people. So consider. Students from several dozens of Moscow universities, state employees, pensioners, doctors, teachers - a hundred-thousand rally in support of the president is ready. ”


(The text is given without editing. - O. Ch.). A screenshot with the call “From each institution you need to 10 people” see below.



Messages about the rally-concert, money and iPhones, which interested even the major foreign press like The Times, did not appear in a vacuum. The concert in Luzhniki was really announced ( link). Stas Mikhailov, Oleg Gazmanov, Nikolai Baskov, Valeria, Kristina Orbakaite, Philip Kirkorov, Polina Gagarina, Grigory Leps, Alexander Rosenbaum, Zara, Olga Kormukhina, Turetsky choir, Diana Gurtskaya, Timati, Alexey Vorobev and Denis Maydanov will take part in it.

It is also reported that at the rally "For Strong Russia" in support of Putin about ten people will deliver speeches, among them director Nikita Mikhalkov, singer Timati, pilot-cosmonaut Sergei Ryazansky and other eminent persons.

Project "ZZ". Youth for Putin. Or for iPhone?


Obviously, Putin himself will appear at the rally.

According to the press secretary of the head of state, Dmitry Peskov, Putin may appear at this rally. "We can not exclude this," - quoted Peskov "Vedomosti".

As for the money for this major event (and Basque with Kirkorov is large, even very much), then so far little is known. RBC reports that the rally-concert will be paid from candidate Putin’s electoral fund, but the staff’s spokesman found it difficult to tell the exact amount: “payments are still being made.” Later information will be presented in the financial report of the candidate.

More or less known is another indicator, not financial. Putin’s campaign headquarters is counting on not less than one hundred thousand people to come to the Luzhniki campaign. About this agency previously told the "sources".

As RBC reminds, the election rally in support of Putin will not be held in Luzhniki for the first time. A run-in of this kind was a massive action at the stadium during the 2012 campaign of the year. According to the Interior Ministry, 130 thousands of people gathered at that event. Putin then told his supporters that "we are a victorious people" and "we will not allow anyone to interfere in our internal affairs."

About the people who attended the rally 2012, told on the radio Kommersant FM N. Batalov: “They are not very willing to make contact, but many of them said that they came centrally by bus, and when they go, they are held in small groups of 50-100 people, and it’s mostly clear that these people came it is centralized, but, again, they are not very willing to communicate. ”

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Of course, it is difficult to call an event a rally, where “protesters” go for five hundred rubles or at the call of a “party”, ten people from there and from here. According to the definition, a meeting should be considered a meeting of a large group of people who set clear goals and objectives, for example, putting forward political demands or expressing an attitude towards a particular politician, official or organization. This rally does not require singers and "stars" from the TV. And of course, no one is driven away to a genuine rally with the help of well-known bureaucratic methods. You either go to the rally yourself, if you support his ideas, or if you don’t, if you disagree with the protesters. A meeting of "supporters" or "opponents" for the sake of money or by order is not a rally and cannot be one.

All this could be called well-known if it were not for the mass arrival in the past at similar “rallies” of people who, according to eyewitnesses and participants of the events, come “centrally” by buses.

We often stigmatize the West for its shaky values ​​and double standards. So let's hold a rally without singers and celebrities. Without banknotes and buses. Without bureaucratic appeals in the spirit of the Soviet commitments: "From every institution you need to 10 people." We will hold a real rally. True folk. Let a hundred thousand people come to him or only ten people, but he will be honest.

Can we? Or do we also have double standards?
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  1. Humans war
    Humans war 28 February 2018 09: 27
    +8
    And young people generally do not care for whom to vote.
    He pulls up the ritus and goes to the club to collect huskies.
    Selfie on the background of naked women doing.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 February 2018 09: 49
      +16
      As if youth in the USSR did not go to dances? And why generalize and row all under one comb?
      1. Humans war
        Humans war 28 February 2018 10: 03
        +5
        Sorry, in the USSR the youth was not at all what it is now, I do not generalize the youth of the USSR.
        I'm talking about now.
        Yes, and at that time the dances were good, and then she lived not only dances.
        And now, youth has their whole life one holiday.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 February 2018 10: 43
          +17
          [/ quote] And now young people have one whole holiday. [quote]
          This old age is called laughing . That's why she and the youth to have fun. And adulthood still has time to eat
        2. dauria
          dauria 28 February 2018 12: 08
          +11
          Yes, and at that time dancing was kind


          laughing Hmm .... Dance floor in the park without police and (occasionally) knife wounds? What Soviet Union did you live in?
          1. Vladimir16
            Vladimir16 3 March 2018 15: 45
            +1
            Kremlin advisers ..

            Dude, how do you need to hate your country to write such words?
            In Russia, not everything is measured by money.
            The Kremlin is the heart of Russia.
            It is necessary to write nasty things by necessarily using the word Kremlin. So is written in the training manual?
            It doesn’t matter who comes up with these phrases - they are enemies of the Russian world and do not hide it. It is important who distributes. Many of these distributors of nasty things about Russia sincerely consider themselves patriots.
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic 28 February 2018 19: 40
          +6
          Quote: Humans War
          Yes, and at that time dancing was kind,

          not always and not everywhere. try to "someone else's microdistrict" get into the disco in the 70s and the beginning of the 80s
      2. Ryazan87
        Ryazan87 28 February 2018 10: 30
        +23
        laughing What are you thinking about!
        Soviet youth did not like naked women and women despised jeans with chewing gums and rejected American films. Only labor, only battle! And all the good people were, especially in Kazan. Right from the 70s it was especially noticeable.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 28 February 2018 09: 53
      +22
      In Moscow, only children of visiting Uzbeks will come for 500 rubles. On the other hand, I can imagine what kind of "partiotic" screech would rise in the media if this were organized by a little dog for the same money. winked
      1. seos
        seos 28 February 2018 11: 19
        +8
        These 500 rubles just Sabachaki, Grudinin and Navalny organized such a fake .... the authorities do not make sense to pay the parishioners .... this is nonsense ...
        Such parishes are made just by the opposition to create extras ...
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 28 February 2018 12: 16
          +7
          Not a single fact. Everywhere there and there deleted fakes. Everything becomes so clumsy and primitive that I start to worry about their IQ.
          1. A fake acc or an account with an intercepted password places a provocative message
          2. Bots maximally repost fake message on other social networks and other aggregators
          3. As soon as the fake message catches on to the media beyond these social networks, it immediately leaves
          4. That's it. Further, all other media are acting, citing the source of which is not

          It’s a bit more complicated than throwing it right in through bought / naive / low-intellectual (underline) journalists, but quickly, efficiently and inexpensively.
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 12: 30
            +10
            g1washntwn Today, 12:16 ↑ New
            Not a single fact. Everywhere there and there deleted fakes. Everything becomes so clumsy and primitive that I start to worry about their IQ.
            So the main thing here is what? Right, make a loud headline ...
            Project "ZZ". Youth for Putin. Or for iPhone?
            Media and forums report that those who come to the rally "For a Strong Russia!" in Luzhniki, will receive 500 rubles.
            that is, the main thing is to make a throw-in that some media (which are not indicated, so as not to be checked), where something is written, and then on the thumb. When did Americans bother with evidence? The media said, then the media. Then much later it turns out that it was a fake, there were no media outlets and no one paid 500 grouse, but who would be interested in this later?

            The authors of VO are on the right track ... “Down with Putin”, “give Grudinin the presidency”, “vote with your heart”, “vote or lose” ... It seems to me, or somewhere I already saw it ?!
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 28 February 2018 13: 32
              +24
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              The authors of VO are on the right track ... "Down with Putin," “give Grudinin the presidency”, “vote with your heart”, “vote or lose”... It seems to me, or somewhere I already saw it ?!

              He invented it, and he himself was indignant!
              To vote with your heart, and to sacredly believe that Putin’s servant of the oligarchs is worried about the people, can only be Confused. Adequate people, to vote with their hearts and believe in something, are not required at all. Maxims are needed only for those with precarious positions! Everything is very obvious, and clear as day. Putin for the oligarchs! Grudinin and the Communists, for the people.
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 13: 40
                +14
                Stas157 Today, 13: 32 ↑
                Grudinin and the Communists, for the people.
                belay fool laughing laughing laughing
                Honestly, there’s nothing more to add! Bees against honey, oligarch for the people ... request Iron logic!recourse
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 28 February 2018 13: 57
                  +19
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  Bees against honey, oligarch for the people ... request Iron logic!

                  You are a definition of what an oligarch look. And then hang tags! Grudinin is not poor, but he is not an oligarch. He has nothing to do with power.
                  Let me remind you that the nobility did not prevent Lenin and other high-class revolutionaries from creating the world's first socialist country. Grudinin’s wealth didn’t hinder him, but rather helped to build a beautiful kindergarten and school, and pay collective farmers salaries that the city would envy.
                  1. dSK
                    dSK 28 February 2018 16: 10
                    0
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Let me remind you that the nobility did not prevent Lenin and other revolutionaries

                    Red Terror, repeat? AND hegemonic who will be this time?
                    1. Conserp
                      Conserp 3 March 2018 09: 58
                      +2
                      Quote: dsk
                      Red Terror, repeat?

                      It is the red terror against any scum that is the urgent need to repeat.
                  2. Andrey VOV
                    Andrey VOV 28 February 2018 17: 06
                    0
                    The school is not on the balance sheet of its CJSC, And on the fields during the harvest, look who works and for what, you won’t make a billion state on strawberries and its livestock, and as for salaries .... Well, yes, the hospital also has an average temperature, someone has 42, and someone has 0, that's the average .......
                  3. Sasha_Sar
                    Sasha_Sar 1 March 2018 17: 19
                    +3
                    It is useless to argue with these "partners." I haven’t received a straightforward answer to any of my questions. Answers requested to argue. Not later than this week, these comrades promised that the "guarantor" in his message would announce his program for the next 6 years. In addition to the achievements of the military-industrial complex, there is nothing. There are no achievements in the economy, no in social policy, you can "sleep soundly", the border is "on the lock" That's it! Waiting for rebuttals ...
        2. uskrabut
          uskrabut 28 February 2018 13: 13
          +5
          Quote: seos
          the authorities do not make sense to pay the parishioners .... this is nonsense ...

          You know very poorly the Russian authorities, especially the "approvers"! Yes, they are for "100%" their ass on the English flag will tear, and then, pah, organize a rally! Yes, just spit! At we can!
          1. dSK
            dSK 28 February 2018 16: 34
            0
            Election outcome will decide not those who spend days on social networks, but who plowing on the ground: peasants - Christians, hard workers at the machine. hi
            1. Sofa General
              Sofa General 1 March 2018 01: 01
              +8
              The outcome of the elections will be decided not by those who spend XNUMX hours on social networks, but who plow on the “ground”: peasants are Christians, hard workers at the machine tool.

              The outcome is decided by the one who believes ...
              1. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 1 March 2018 17: 21
                +3
                VTsIOM has already decided everything, you can not go, but you still have to go. My friends are already voting ahead of schedule for Grudinin.
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic 28 February 2018 19: 45
          +4
          Quote: seos
          authorities do not make sense to pay parishioners ....

          It’s easier for the authorities to unobtrusively lower the order from above as in the good old days and no one will blame a word against it.
      2. You Vlad
        You Vlad 28 February 2018 17: 29
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        In Moscow, only children of visiting Uzbeks will come for 500 rubles. On the other hand, I can imagine what kind of "partiotic" screech would rise in the media if this were organized by a little dog for the same money.

        Isn’t you normal? Have you lived in Moscow? Do you know how many people want to go to a concert for free? Ordinary fake is from Radio Liberty where does this author work Dude! !! The editorial office of VO may stop feeding us with slop? Take measures !!!! Author no words ...
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 28 February 2018 19: 01
          +5
          Quote: You Vlad
          Radio Liberty where this author works Dude

          This author is the moderator of our site.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 1 March 2018 01: 50
            +1
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            This author is the moderator of our site.

            Moderator? belay So he doesn’t know, well, like? What on any, I emphasize any a free concert where the stars will perform; they’re not pushing! Well, if I’m wrong, correct me! I have a lot of experience in this ... So why should anyone else pay for this? Where is the author’s logic? Is there one logic requestFind and throw in.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 1 March 2018 06: 51
              +2
              Let's hold a real rally. Truly folk.
              and let's vote on the site ...
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 1 March 2018 09: 36
                0
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                and let's vote on the site ...

                scary?
                1. dSK
                  dSK 1 March 2018 11: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  scary?

                  Found something to scare, let's do it.
                  Election outcome will decide not those who sit on social networks for days, but who plow on the "earth": peasants are Christians, hard workers at the machine tool.
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 March 2018 12: 25
              +1
              I, personally, will not go to Mikhailov with Kirkorov now, but in my youth I would not go to Kobzon with Pugacheva. However, I am not aware that today's youth is listening there.
            3. sxfRipper
              sxfRipper 3 March 2018 16: 38
              0
              As for anyone, I emphasize any free concert where stars will perform
              Stars ... Next wee pee pee pee ..... autocensored ...
          2. dSK
            dSK 1 March 2018 10: 59
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            This author is the moderator of our site.
            His nickname is sibiralt?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 March 2018 12: 27
              +1
              Quote: dsk
              Is his nickname “sibiralt”?

              No. March. He generally rarely comments.
  2. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 28 February 2018 09: 51
    +7
    Young people are different and even in the same social class there can be very different points of view, take for example the Upper Middle Class and the Upper Class, one youth will vote for Ksyusha because it is fashionable and close to her point of view, others from the same group will vote and support Putin, yes you heard right ... because they are satisfied with that stability (financial, and the status of their parents in society), and they don’t want changes, they have money - power, why change something? And their mom-dads will definitely vote for Putin.

    And there are such points of view: “A. Trubina answered differently: she is ready to give her vote to Ksenia Sobchak.“ Stability ”Trubina ridicules. According to her, one can insist on“ stability ”, but grandmothers in Russia live in poverty, and people in the same country where "bulk oil and gas" receive pensions of eight thousand rubles. Something is going wrong in such a country. "I want changes," she says. " and here it is impossible not to agree, not about the candidate, of course, but about the situation in the country.
  3. Dangerous
    Dangerous 28 February 2018 09: 54
    +19
    The article is sad of course. The farther, the more uncontested the elections. I am surprised when I read or hear people seriously discussing this or that candidate, his program, income, privacy. For all these years, the authorities have built a really effective system to prevent worthy candidates for the presidency in order to preserve the current power. And when they say that who, if not Putin, wants to answer, there really is nobody. But not because of the shortcomings of our competent politicians and managers, but because specially selected people take part in the elections. And all the oligarchic power will last xs how much time. But 6 years for sure
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 28 February 2018 17: 08
      +1
      And who do you think is worthy for 2018 and why? A direct question, I would like the same answer
  4. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 28 February 2018 10: 06
    +9
    500 rubles?!!! What is 500 rubles for Moscow? Now, if they would come to us in Mukhoisk, and even with Stas Mikhailov, I don’t know how young people are, but grandmas would definitely vote ... for Stas Mikhailov. I am 40, and I am going to vote for the first time. Because before I could not figure out all the mess that was going on in our elections. And now, who is Grudinin and where did he suddenly come from. It would be fun - "Strawberry King and Chocolate agreed to produce a bar with strawberries." Or Ksenia ..., you yourself know some- "you give all of Russia Olga Buzova and house 2 to every single village." Who to vote for? !! AND?!!! Which of them made something worthwhile? And I don’t want to wash my boots in the Indian Ocean, my age is not the same.
  5. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 28 February 2018 10: 09
    +3
    Double standards are always and forever.
    But for 500 rubles in my opinion this is nonsense and a setup.
    When it is necessary to break a tear, the best-mentioned are grandmothers with small pensions (at the same time, keep silent about the reason for this and hint that, with a different candidate, grandmothers will receive pensions as president)
    Well, in order to provoke indignation of the electorate and show the anti-people essence of the government, it is necessary to mention about gas and its cost. At the same time, to keep silent that from the cost of gas sales, budgetary expenses are paid social payments to state employees, for example, pensions to pensioners of which we have a maximum amount. I’m not talking about old people who have been hunched over for this pension all their lives, but for healthy 40-year-old foreheads who became pensions.
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 28 February 2018 10: 27
      +10
      This is what pensioners think are stopping us from finally getting up off our knees? Really divorced them unnecessarily, and here others write how richly and happily they say they began to live .. Maybe Gref is right that these snickering pensioners have eaten the country with us?
    2. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 February 2018 10: 38
      +5
      Well, yes, it’s better to close your eyes to the facts and turn the arrows. Pensions, by the way, come not only from income from the sale of oil and gas, but also from any factories, organizations, firms and IPs. And why do not you then ask the question that if our national wealth has super-profits, then why are pensions beggarly?
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 28 February 2018 10: 58
      +3
      K.A.S. But for 500 rubles in my opinion this is nonsense and setup
      It is quite realistic, an occasion for verification. Do not sleep prosecutors.
    4. uskrabut
      uskrabut 28 February 2018 13: 19
      +1
      Quote: K.A.S.
      At the same time, to keep silent that from the cost of gas sales, budgetary expenses are paid social payments to state employees, for example, pensions to pensioners of which we have for the maximum amount

      I did not know that in Russia the population is larger than in China and India combined !!!!!
      1. K.A.S.
        K.A.S. 28 February 2018 13: 39
        +3
        you don’t know much. For example, about pensions in China. or the standard of living in India, ask what the workers have in India and China, you would not raise a hammer for that salary! ask what the economy is. and then write malicious comments.
        1. Fox
          Fox 28 February 2018 14: 35
          +3
          Quote: K.A.S.
          the salaries of workers in India and China, you wouldn’t raise a hammer for that salary!

          in China, the machine operator receives from 1000 raccoons. from us, where I worked, from 15 tyrov ...
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 28 February 2018 14: 40
            +4
            but how do you know that 1000 raccoons?
            but do not think that you are such a machine operator that only 15 tyrov? why did you work for that kind of money?
            The machine operator is good and well received. I just know the machinists (if you're talking about turning and milling, etc.)
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 28 February 2018 21: 13
              +2
              K.A.S. Today, 14:40
              but how do you know that 1000 raccoons?

              The average salary in China in 2017 is 67 yuan per year ($ 569) or 10 yuan per month ($ 200).
              Average salary in the workplace - 55 yuan per year, or 324 yuan per month.
              That is, 8 is divided by approximately 350 and we get 6.6 dollars.
              But this is the data from the blog "about paradise life beyond the hill".
              http://hochusvalit.com/kitaj/zarplata-v-kitae
              More confidence is given by the data on the minimum wage.
              In China there is no single minimum wage (minimum wage) established at the national level - each region independently determines which minimum wage will be applied on its territory.
              As a rule, a higher wage in China is set in large cities of the country: the four main cities - Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen; centers of large provinces; developed cities in the east of the country. The lowest minimum wages are usually in the remote and poor counties of the central and western provinces.
              Shanghai
              Starting April 1, 2017, the minimum wage in Shanghai is 2 yuan of renminbi (about 300 thousand rubles) per month. The following payments and the amounts paid by the employer are not included in the minimum wage amount: 20) overtime payment; 1) allowances for work at night, during the summer heat, in harmful and other special conditions; 2) subsidies for food, travel and accommodation; 3) social insurance contributions and housing savings fund.
              The minimum hourly wage in Shanghai is 20 RMB renminbi (about 175 rubles) per hour. Minimum hourly wage also does not include social insurance contributions.
              Peking
              Starting September 1, 2017, the minimum wage in Beijing is 2 yuan renminbi (about 000 thousand rubles).
              Wenzhou
              Three different minimum wages operate in the city: in the central areas of cities, the minimum wage is 1 yuan of renminbi (about 860 thousand rubles) per month, in cities of district significance Yueqing and Ruian - 16,2 yuan of renminbi (about 1 thousand rubles ) per month, in remote counties - 660 yuan renminbi (about 14,5 thousand rubles) per month.
              https://cnlegal.ru/china_labour/minimum_wage_2017
              /
              Threat. The course on 28.02.2018/1/6.33 - XNUMX $ = XNUMX ¥.
              1. Freeman
                Freeman 1 March 2018 01: 01
                0
                Freedom 2 Yesterday, 21:13 PM
                The average salary in the workplace is 55 yuan per year, or 324 yuan per month.
                That is, 8 is divided by approximately 350 and we get 6.6 dollars.

                repeat Oops ... "reported." Read correctly so
                Average salary in the workplace - 55 324 yuan per year or $ 8 a year.
                That is, 8 350 is divided by 12 and we get $ 695 per month.
                But this is an "average" salary, so the salary of $ 1000 from a machine operator is quite real.
                1. K.A.S.
                  K.A.S. 1 March 2018 09: 40
                  +1
                  I do not argue about what such a salary can be! I know that the machine operator in the Russian Federation can also have such a salary! Depends on the qualifications!
                  And if a person receives a little and is not looking for where more it speaks of his qualifications.
  6. Sadko88
    Sadko88 28 February 2018 10: 11
    +5
    We understand that with several accounts, such simple provocations are not difficult to organize without special training.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 February 2018 10: 39
      +2
      Quite possibly. Maybe not 500 rubles. But here that the participation in the rally voluntary-compulsory is 100% sure
      1. uskrabut
        uskrabut 28 February 2018 13: 22
        +4
        You will not believe! There is! There are 500 rubles! The oddryams from the licking parties believe that they will make happy the nearby Russian electorate. If managers seriously discuss that a salary of 7 thousand rubles at full time is a lot for a simple Russian, then don’t hesitate, 500 rubles is the real amount! Could be less!
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 1 March 2018 02: 00
          0
          Quote: uskrabut
          You will not believe! There is! There are 500 rubles!

          Yes, we will not believe yes That you believe in everything and believe!
          Quote: uskrabut
          The oddryams from the licking parties believe that they will make happy the nearby Russian electorate.

          This is an argument to insult a normal thinking person. yes They came, news: Somewhere, someone posted on social networks crying As I understand it, we have already begun to work at the CIA level! fellow
  7. Gloomy
    Gloomy 28 February 2018 10: 15
    +9
    The Russian economy is simplified every year, the number of jobs is being reduced, incomes are falling, the labor market is broken by uncontrolled emigration - so it is not surprising that young people are opposed to the authorities. The authorities cannot offer them anything.
  8. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 28 February 2018 10: 16
    +2
    how sideways does this article relate to VO ?? I think the morale of the defenders of the fatherland is important for defense security. Therefore, the outright "venality" of some representatives of the "people" is outraged
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 February 2018 10: 40
      +15
      That is, about monetary rewards in Navalny rallies it is possible to write, but in Putin's it is impossible?))
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 28 February 2018 12: 21
        +4
        Evidence, please put it here.
        No, your honest pioneer word does not fit.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 February 2018 12: 58
          +5
          Please - there was an article about custom-made bulk meetings at VO, there were a bunch of comments. Now the same thing about Putin. True or not - you will not find the ends, then, now. But the man above asked why this article was laid out here, such as credibility undermines defense capability. But since then laid out, why not put it now?
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 28 February 2018 13: 07
            +3
            And you know that a stick is always about two ends. It all depends on whose hands she is in. You can stretch a drowning man, and with malicious intent both its ends in work. So with fakes - we invite our own with ducks, we blame others. But here is the problem, he will remain a fake fake, there will be deceived undergrowths who didn’t get $ 5000 for a selfie in a shuttle, empty media messages will remain that are not confirmed by any 500 rubles. But, as in that proverb about “A and B on the pipe”, “and” will remain.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 28 February 2018 13: 51
          +7
          Quote: g1washntwn
          Evidence, please put it here.
          No, your honest pioneer word does not fit.

          Do you think that power is not soiled so far? Didn’t we pass this in the last election? Wasn’t there in organizations, factories, hospitals, in the army, among oilmen and gas workers ... calls from the authorities MUST go to the polls and vote for Putin? Buses were ordered somewhere (gathered at work), and somewhere they decided, supposedly for convenience, to arrange a vote directly in their organization ... well, so that the boss could control it! But, ahead of all of Russia, in a vote for power, this is in the Chechen Republic.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 February 2018 10: 16
    +5
    The situation described from the perspective of a British journalist is understandable to disgrace. The position of RBC, Kommersant, and other liberal media is understandable. Calls to come for 500 rubles or obligatory money (10 people each from a university) can come either from provocateurs, or it’s such a “bearish” service that you don’t want to believe in. And young people needed to be engaged, and not left to their own devices from the beginning of the 90s, so those who were thinking about the future would select these young people and try to educate them according to their standards.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 February 2018 10: 41
      +4
      employees of the public sector are forced to go to any event (sports, entertainment or political). Not the British journalist to blame for this, but the current system
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 28 February 2018 12: 29
        +5
        The story about how the system forces you to eat jamon bought in a mortgage looks more believable. Or, as an option, you just from the time capsule that the pioneers buried in the 70s
        Come on, develop, unwind: Barking service dogs, crying children - in the pouring rain, machine gunners drove residents out of the barracks and were forced to go to the polls through a narrow corridor of barbed wire ...
        (more strawberries! even more!) :)
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 February 2018 12: 44
          +5
          Che smoke, uncle? What are you talking about? It’s time to sober up already and work, the sun is still high!
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 28 February 2018 13: 11
            +3
            To your idiotic post about total coercion - an idiotic answer. All honestly.
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 28 February 2018 13: 51
              +2
              below already answered this question, probably read. do not think that coercion was before, but now it is not. Everything is still the same!
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 10: 50
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Obligatory (10 people per university) can come either from provocateurs, or it’s such a “bear” service that you don’t want to believe in.

      there was such a mandatory meeting from the institution at a rally on Vasilyevsky descent in support of the Crimea
    3. uskrabut
      uskrabut 28 February 2018 13: 26
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      or it’s such a “bearish” service that you don’t want to believe in.

      We are in the backwoods and we don’t see that, ours are trying so hard! How do you like subbotniks 10 times a year? That is one miracle to come so deigned - everyone sweeps and paints! That another - again we throw and paint! and all for free! How do you like the promotion of the power of the volunteer movement? This is how much you can not pay salaries to people, while there are such idiots!
  10. Redfox11
    Redfox11 28 February 2018 10: 45
    +6
    I’ve been reading the site for several years, without commenting, it’s just tryndets, how the elections started dumping slops on the Supreme every day, they’ve already come back, using the English press as a source of information (the opposition has already posted similar announcements in past elections, as it did with stupid blacks with the tablets and the photo itself). So it’s clear to you that they pay it, I hope at least the Communists, not Khodorkovsky.
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 28 February 2018 11: 11
      +14
      Quote: RedFox11
      I’ve been reading the site for several years, without commenting, it’s just tryndets, how the elections started dumping slops on the Supreme every day, they’ve already come back, using the English press as a source of information (the opposition has already posted similar announcements in past elections, as it did with stupid blacks with the tablets and the photo itself). So it’s clear to you that they pay it, I hope at least the Communists, not Khodorkovsky.


      And I read comments like yours and ask myself, do we live in the same country? Do you definitely live in Russia (behind the ring, for clarification)? I met a curious comment on the site, an exact copy of which was found on the site by looking in the comments, there the person wrote about the need to limit our media and everything like that, exactly the same thing on two different sites with punctuation is very remarkable, but the question whether he didn’t answer unfortunately .... so I think maybe there really are people who write such a comment for money.
      1. Redfox11
        Redfox11 28 February 2018 12: 21
        +2
        The fact that grandmothers pour slurries here, it is clear to anyone who has brains, just look at the amount of materials and slops on Putin, right after the start of the election, and quoting the enemy press, for slops, with countries of which there is already an economic war and a hybrid (Syria Ukraine) goes beyond the permissible limit. So the Communists have a little money and they focused on the internet because real campaigning (billboards, etc.) is much more expensive, they buy various VKontakte groups, for example, a group of motorists of 100000 people becomes a group for sternum, where did you get that they cannot pay a million or two here for promotion. Moreover, here a targeted group, mainly people of low income.
        1. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 28 February 2018 12: 35
          +9
          Well, the war is going on on all fronts, and our federal media is also pouring slop on other candidates, and if we compare the economic opportunities of the Communists, LDP members and others, and the capabilities of the federal center for propaganda and financial resources, then the winner is obvious. And if we take the real situation in the country, and not what the media feeds us with, the picture is very far from reality. And imagine, not everyone supports the policies pursued by Putin. There are a lot of questions regarding domestic politics, ranging from social issues to corruption in the highest echelons of power. There is even such a famous saying: "Who should live well in Russia"? it remains only to replace Russia with Russia and it will become clear what segments of the population support the current policy. Therefore, pouring slop on the current government and expressing an alternative point of view on the current policy are slightly different things. agree? I did not see any slop in this article, the struggle for the votes of voters is conducted by all parties and uses different methods to achieve their goal.
          1. Redfox11
            Redfox11 28 February 2018 12: 58
            +4
            Well, firstly, everyone knows who the state channels support, and this site is of a narrow military orientation and many thought it was neutral, and such propaganda aroused indignation. Other articles in principle do not go over the line, but this has passed, because Putin supports more than half of the country's population (see the last a survey of the same Naval brother Putin put in place, Putin 75%) Accuse the country's population of corruption by using the enemy press to confirm that this is below the plinth on a military patriotic site. The main message of criticism from readers of the site is how Putin put his friends in the main strategic financial directions , so this is the only available option that Putin had when he came to power, the United States is the economic center of the world with all the levers of influence on any oligarchs, at the first confrontation with the United States, neutral oligarchs would flee with all the money or arrange a palace coup. All businesses refused build a Crimean bridge for fear of sanctions, who build t, friend rotenberg is already under sanctions.
            1. Aleksandr21
              Aleksandr21 28 February 2018 13: 14
              +14
              At least here on the website very often articles appear in support of the current government, and Putin as a whole. those. it can no longer be neutral, and if such articles are published, why cannot articles with an alternative point of view be published? If we do not publish such articles, then let's close the topic of politics on this site, it would be fair. Yes, some part of the population supports Putin, but here it is necessary to look specifically at sections of the population, for example, oligarchs, deputies, officials, security officials - they will actively support our president, because they are fine and they don’t want to change anything, but they somehow it’s all the same, there is still a part of the population that actively watches our media, the programs and policies for which the federal center chooses. Surveys about 75% are such, how reliable are they and what segments of the population are polled (and are these 75% polled at all and not figures drawn) a big question. Let's not talk about the USA, the fact that the children of our government are studying abroad, and having officials / deputies there, real estate is not a secret. It remains only to find out where their homeland is? Yes, some part of the oligarchy is pro-government and what should be easier for the population from this? Are they worried about the population of Russia? do not make me laugh. At such moments, you remember the advertisement "Gazprom - a national treasure"
              1. Redfox11
                Redfox11 28 February 2018 13: 43
                +2
                Previously, the site remained neutral, now there is no mention of it almost every day the editorial staff writes election propaganda, while other articles could still be tolerated, but this crossed the line. Under Stalin, the author of such an article would be shot the next day, and the article would be with a link on goebels that people support Stalin for potatoes. Once again, Putin’s rating from Navalny and a poll was conducted among all the groups of population by random sampling, Putin put Navalny’s brother to Navalny himself for many months, so no one can tell that Navalny is for Putin, also western stat agencies they conduct surveys if there is no faith in ours. Children should receive the best education, wherever it is, the main thing is that they go back and benefit from their knowledge. Gazprom is one of the country's largest taxpayers in every pension or disability allowance of 10 percent from Gazprom. Salaries top Gazprom managers are less than or correspond to its smaller Western counterparts, so not in I look for no injustice.
                1. Aleksandr21
                  Aleksandr21 28 February 2018 13: 53
                  +10
                  Under Stalin, many would now be in power at best, and at worst .... deputies, officials, oligarchs, so they were very lucky that they live under Putin, and not under Stalin. If you prohibit campaigning on the site and maintain neutrality, then you need to do this for all parties, and not so that someone has advantages, or close the topic of politics in general and write articles only on military topics. About polls of dubious characters, let's not, on the Internet, too, all kinds of polls are conducted on various sites, on some in general Grudinin leads by a wide margin, so you can give different results, who like what :) and about the salaries of top management of Gazprom and Rosneft (by the way) This is a separate topic of discussion.
                  1. Redfox11
                    Redfox11 28 February 2018 14: 13
                    +2
                    I’m not talking about online heads, the results of which can be caught by bots on the cheap, but real opinion polls of real people. The new Putin’s voter is generally a woman after 30 and other candidates have 0 chances to lure this voter, women are very careful in their choice.
                    1. Aleksandr21
                      Aleksandr21 28 February 2018 14: 38
                      +8
                      The point is not in the polls, but in the choice of people. For example, I have friends who will go to vote for Putin, ask a question, do you like everything in this country? They don’t and start talking about various problems in the economy, social sphere, corruption, etc. and who will you vote for? For Putin. I ask why ... they answer that there is no one else for it. Take for example the older generation, pensioners with a pension of 8-9 thousand rubles, many people will go to vote for Putin, although they barely survive in this country. Here, by the way, our media play a big role, which form a point of view and there is no real alternative, the authorities are afraid of competition, so for all these years we have no normal opposition to the authorities, so Putin will leave after the new term, who will replace him? And all of these immediately begin to think for a long time ... but it should not be so when there is no replacement, and he is not such a cool manager that he could not be replaced, just the system is so built. There is one person who, in terms of resources and power, is actually a monarch, and his entire situation in our country has been happy with everything in recent years, if it hadn’t been so, then everything could have been changed for a long time, he has all the power .... but there’s no desire .
                      1. dSK
                        dSK 28 February 2018 23: 47
                        0
                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        Under Stalin
                        you the top ten wouldn’t get off, tomorrow would be “on the bunk” Now with
                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        a person who, in terms of resources and power, is actually a monarch,
                        can go on in the same vein. It just seems like the pendulum of history is moving from anarchy to dictatorship and passes the point of equilibrium.
                        Quote: Aleksandr21
                        Putin will leave after a new term, who will replace him?
                        Perhaps the descendants will remember our time as a "liberal paradise." hi
  11. unignm
    unignm 28 February 2018 10: 53
    +5
    Yes, it would be more likely that the elections were held as propaganda
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 28 February 2018 12: 39
      +2
      Quote: unignm
      Yes, it would be more likely that the elections were held as propaganda

      I would ask for accuracy .. REVISIONS)))
  12. Loess
    Loess 28 February 2018 10: 55
    +6
    however, grandmothers in Russia live in poverty, and people in the very country where “in bulk oil and gas” receive pensions of eight thousand rubles.
    Regarding poor grandmothers ... I agree that our grandmothers are far from oligarchs, but ... There was a time when you sit on a bench, open a bottle of beer, and grandmother / grandfather comes up to you asking you not to throw the bottle away, yes if they both come together at the same time, it came to a scandal ... You’re getting into your pocket, scooping up as much as you can, because just leaving an empty bottle and leaving is a shame ... And then this phenomenon disappeared, and it’s unlikely that there are fewer grandmothers. And now it’s also forbidden to drink beer on the street ... But I think this is the right decision. I also remember how the same grandparents with an outstretched hand stood on almost every corner, it was a shame to look into my eyes. And this is not now. Then there was POVERTY. And now something else. Although, for the sake of justice, I’ll say that one grandmother is still standing with her outstretched hands from time to time, like 10 years ago. She just always stood in the same place, so I remember for a long time. Only before she looked like she wanted to help, but now ... If she was younger about her, you could say “blood with milk”, a colorful old woman, and I saw her twice in the same place in a very decent coat, apparently forgot to put on “working” clothes, so I think not because of hopelessness she is standing there, but because of “love of art”.

    Screenshot with the appeal "Every institution needs 10 people" see below.
    10 person from Moscow Institute? Thousands of people study at those institutes, just write an announcement that there will be a concert - a lot more people will come there. And here is the obligation of 10 man - stupidity, chesslovo.
    Well, the fact that they paid attention to young people is that they are the same citizens as everyone, there is nothing surprising or new here.
    And if such a concert were organized in our city in support of ... yes, even Navalny, even Obama, I suspect that at least half of the city would have come there) It would have been 100 thousand and would have gathered) And people would come exclusively to the concert, not for Navalny, Obama, or anyone else. If the concert is free. They spoiled the capital with concerts, oh, spoiled. Wait, artists do not go to rural clubs ... Anyway, they don’t really ride around the province ...
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 26
      +1
      Quote: Less
      10 person from Moscow Institute? Thousands of people study at those institutes, just write an announcement that there will be a concert - a lot more people will come there. And here is the obligation of 10 man - stupidity, chesslovo.

      well no. You just don’t know how TIME is valued in Moscow. Here I was offered counter-marks on Spivakov, do not believe it, NOT WHEN!
    2. uskrabut
      uskrabut 28 February 2018 13: 29
      0
      Quote: Less
      About the poor grannies.

      current, pensions for all their wretchedness, sometimes higher than salaries of young people! And who will give birth and raise children? Grandmothers?
    3. Freeman
      Freeman 28 February 2018 18: 44
      0
      Less Today, 10:55
      10 person from Moscow Institute? Thousands of people study at those institutes, just write an announcement that there will be a concert - a lot more people will come there. And here is the obligation of 10 man - stupidity, chesslovo.

      Have you read the article carefully? Everyone looked at the "pictures"? Have you seen this?

      Key phrase - Putin’s arrival is expected, the FSO will check.
      And if such a concert were organized in our city ... I suspect that at least half of the city would have come there) It would be just 100 thousand and would have typed)

      And in your city, in the event of Putin’s arrival, they wouldn’t let everyone in, but only verified ones.
      You know the security measures.
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 28 February 2018 19: 04
        0
        Freedom 2 Today, 18:44
        Oops ... glucan. I will explain.
        And in your city, in the event of Putin’s arrival, not everyone would be allowed to enter the scene, but only proven ones.
  13. mavrus
    mavrus 28 February 2018 10: 55
    +1
    Quote: Humans War
    Sorry, in the USSR the youth was not at all what it is now, I do not generalize the youth of the USSR.
    I'm talking about now.
    Yes, and at that time the dances were good, and then she lived not only dances.
    And now, youth has their whole life one holiday.

    Are you proposing to the youth "back in the nineties" to triple so that life does not seem to be honey?
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    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 28 February 2018 12: 17
      +6
      But you were not born yesterday, what are these children's questions “what will happen if”?
      And what are the tens of millions and Putin? Oligarchs, thieves and ordinary people with the thinking of the first channel?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 February 2018 12: 35
        +3
        Quote: Dangerous
        But you were not born yesterday, what are these children's questions “what will happen if”?

        You answer so that it would be clear to children.
        Quote: Dangerous
        And what are the tens of millions and Putin? Oligarchs, thieves and ordinary people with the thinking of the first channel?

        Millions of CITIZENS of Russia whom NOBODY has the right to insult, including you.
        And the choice which you MUST respect!
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 February 2018 12: 52
          +1
          Insult? Than? Oligarch insult? Or maybe "ordinary people with the thinking of the first channel"? And they already know about thieves about themselves, but they are unlikely to repent and even be proud. Now answering your first question:
          - to remain without a bonus
          - remain without promotion
          - vacation not when you want, but when they release
          - reduction
          This is so, from memory firsthand
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 28 February 2018 13: 59
            +3
            Quote: Dangerous
            Oligarch insult? Or maybe "ordinary people with the thinking of the first channel"?

            Tens of millions are all oligarchs? And the viewers are zombie idites? So say about the Russians ukronatsisty-how do you resemble them!
            Quote: Dangerous
            - to remain without a bonus
            - remain without promotion
            - vacation not when you want, but when they release
            - reduction

            And today and earlier, without rallies, this was not:
            Quote: Dangerous
            lose a prize
            - remain without promotion
            - vacation not when you want, but when they release
            - reduction
            ?
            It was.
            Give the FACTS and it is in this connection, then we'll talk.
            1. Dangerous
              Dangerous 28 February 2018 14: 21
              +1
              Og, a taping of the head of the district administration? You can certainly stubbornly stand in the ostrich pose and pretend that everything is fine and not notice obvious things, this pose is fraught with, I will use you properly.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 28 February 2018 15: 36
                +3
                Quote: Dangerous
                in an ostrich pose standing and pretending

                You can pretend that you really know all the "secrets" and you won’t fool you on the chaff! lol
      2. Redfox11
        Redfox11 28 February 2018 12: 37
        +4
        God, even Navalny’s brother, whom Putin planted and who hates him with all the fibers of his soul, recently conducted a poll with Putin about 75%. That means 75% of your country is a thief, oligarchs and with the thinking of the first channel. It is sad that poverty blinds your eyes with such burning hatred.
        1. Dangerous
          Dangerous 28 February 2018 13: 05
          +2
          Pity yourself, uncle
      3. dSK
        dSK 28 February 2018 16: 42
        0
        Quote: Dangerous
        And what are the tens of millions and Putin? Oligarchs, thieves and ordinary people with the thinking of the first channel?

        February 19 CEC counts everyone.
    2. Semen1972
      Semen1972 28 February 2018 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: Olgovich
      TEN millions of Russian citizens stand for President Putin

      For Gorbachev there were the same millions, and for Yeltsin they were the same.
      In general, I like a joke .... not related to people, no analogies ... I just remembered to cheer up .. G * but - this is the most delicious delicacy. Millions of flies can't be wrong
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 February 2018 14: 03
        +4
        Quote: Semen1972
        For Gorbachev there were the same millions for Yeltsin.

        Gorbachev NOBODY chose, if not in the know, against the EBN was no less than for
        Quote: Semen1972
        .. G * but - this is the most delicious delicacy. Millions flies can't be wrong

        This is the reasoning of MUH. Are you a fly? lol
        1. marline
          marline 28 February 2018 15: 47
          +2
          Quote: Olgovich
          This is the reasoning of MUH. Are you a fly? lol

          Probably not. But it looks like the tastes are the same laughing
        2. Sofa General
          Sofa General 1 March 2018 01: 21
          +1
          Well, millions of people for Grudinin ... thousands for Sobchak ... tens for Yavlinsky ...
          What is the problem then?
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 1 March 2018 10: 41
            0
            Quote: Sofa General
            Well, millions of people for Grudinin ... thousands for Sobchak ... tens for Yavlinsky ...
            What is the problem then

            What are you talking about? request
  15. Vasyav
    Vasyav 28 February 2018 11: 37
    +5
    These rallies are collected by Navalny (in full accordance with the law of the Russian Federation), and the rest is all putings.
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 28 February 2018 12: 04
      +2
      anal non-intelligent clown. who uses children to achieve their goals. gives gossip for a meeting, and writes stupid economic promises like he will raise salaries, how he will reduce bank interest, how he will raise production! And so on and so on!
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 28 February 2018 12: 38
        0
        Quote: K.A.S.
        writes stupid economic promises like he will raise salaries, how he will reduce bank interest, how he will raise production!

        It turns out who writes to all candidates of the program)))))
  16. turbris
    turbris 28 February 2018 11: 50
    +7
    Anti-Putin Oleg Chuvakin fiercely fights against him, merging unverified information about the payment of youth rallies. He throws in information about the payment and himself is indignant about this fake, well, what can I say, what other methods of influencing the voter did not try? In my opinion, he has already “rolled up” all the age categories of voters, except that the next opus will be about corrupt retirees, and the author himself is not ashamed of his publications?
    1. atos_kin
      atos_kin 28 February 2018 12: 13
      +7
      Zaputinets turbris , you’re not ashamed of your comments?
      1. turbris
        turbris 28 February 2018 12: 45
        +6
        No, not ashamed! I am responsible for every word I say, but can Oleg Chuvakin be able to answer this way for the thrown-in "garbage" in his reviews?
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 28 February 2018 14: 12
      +3
      Quote: turbris
      Throws in payment information

      for sure! And what "authorities" the author chose for himself: the whole English The times "! belay lol

      Comrade Dude can DARE this "review" in MK, NG or Echo of Moscow"-it's fine
      will fit with his anti-Putin materials into a company with Albats, Belkovsky and other doggies.
  17. sergo1914
    sergo1914 28 February 2018 12: 27
    +1
    Youth is not for iPhone. Youth - for Samsung, Huawei and Meizu. For iPhone is another category of people. Take a closer look at the environment devices yourself you know whom. And to his environment, the so-called "rivals" in the "elections" ...
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 28 February 2018 13: 48
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      Youth is not for iPhone. Youth - for Samsung, Huawei and Meizu. For iPhone is another category of people. Take a closer look at the environment devices yourself you know whom. And to his environment, the so-called "rivals" in the "elections" ...

      Who has money for that) A child is asking me for an iPhone because everyone in the class ... comes with an inexpensive Samsung)
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 28 February 2018 14: 56
        +2
        Quote: Semen1972
        Quote: sergo1914
        Youth is not for iPhone. Youth - for Samsung, Huawei and Meizu. For iPhone is another category of people. Take a closer look at the environment devices yourself you know whom. And to his environment, the so-called "rivals" in the "elections" ...

        Who has money for that) A child is asking me for an iPhone because everyone in the class ... comes with an inexpensive Samsung)


        I work in college. Students of technical specialties (including information specialists) are extremely negative about apple production. It started with the release of 8 and 8+. Compounded by the release of X.
  18. Semen1972
    Semen1972 28 February 2018 12: 37
    +1
    I do not understand ... an article for Grudinin?))))
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 1 March 2018 02: 09
      +1
      Quote: Semen1972
      I do not understand ... an article for Grudinin?))))

      Or against all yes
  19. Greenwood
    Greenwood 28 February 2018 12: 38
    +6
    The concert in Luzhniki is indeed announced (link). It will be attended by Stas Mikhailov, Oleg Gazmanov, Nikolai Baskov, Valeria, Kristina Orbakaite, Philip Kirkorov, Polina Gagarina, Grigory Leps, Alexander Rosenbaum, Zara, Olga Kormukhina, Turetsky Choir, Diana Gurtskaya, Timati, Alexey Vorobyov and Denis Maidanov.
    Something is wrong here. Where did you see young people listening to this diarrhea from the 90s? I understand that in the 91st Metallica and ACDC, in the midst of the putsch, they came to Tushino to speak, so there really was all the youth of Moscow and Moscow Region, and here it is.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 28 February 2018 13: 46
      +2
      I agree, that is still a "youth party"))))
    2. You Vlad
      You Vlad 1 March 2018 02: 12
      0
      You didn’t read the article? They’ll give 500 rubles there too! So there’s no way the pigeons will go, the toad will strangle! And they’ll give money right at the exit yes
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 1 March 2018 04: 23
        +2
        I wouldn’t go for such a threshing floor for 1000.
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 1 March 2018 11: 16
          0
          And for 2000?))))
      2. Semen1972
        Semen1972 1 March 2018 11: 16
        +1
        Quote: You Vlad
        You didn’t read the article? They’ll give 500 rubles there too! So there’s no way the pigeons will go, the toad will strangle! And they’ll give money right at the exit

        The "Stars" have already announced that they will perform for free))) Baskov does something good, then he sings for free at the judge’s wedding, then he’s free with Kadyrov, now he’s going to work for Putin for free ... that’s a hard worker, he’s not sorry for himself, if only people was good!!!!
  20. Rotmistr
    Rotmistr 28 February 2018 12: 42
    +16
    Youth for themselves
  21. seacap
    seacap 28 February 2018 14: 02
    +2
    For a quarter of a century they destroyed the system of education and upbringing, trained "advanced consumers" by providing educational services. What do they want from their graduates, who studied in Sorov textbooks, who can hardly speak their native language in the language of Allochka-cannibalistic, with eternal and everything Wow with a Ryazan accent, unable to write and even hold pens as disabled, and even with their left hand. Completely unable to communicate with each other, live in a team and society.
  22. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 28 February 2018 16: 03
    +3
    Quote: Dangerous
    But you were not born yesterday, what are these children's questions “what will happen if”?
    And what are the tens of millions and Putin? Oligarchs, thieves and ordinary people with the thinking of the first channel?


    The country has many millions of active and in the reserve of security forces (army, Ministry of Internal Affairs, National Guard, FSB, Ministry of Emergency Situations and many others), whose salaries under Putin grew by 25-30 times, which the apartments receive from the state, decent pensions and so on, so on I don’t forget about them, too. I’m not talking about everyone, there are always dissatisfied, even with a salary of 80-100 thousand and an apartment that I received for free at 25 years old, there are also those who are always dissatisfied. Without such anywhere, But any adequate a person sees what happened before and what has become now.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 1 March 2018 04: 25
      +3
      Quote: Xscorpion
      whose salaries under Putin grew 25-30 times, which the apartments receive from the state, have decent pensions and so on, so don’t forget about them either. I’m not talking about everyone, there are always those who are dissatisfied, even with a salary of 80-100 thousand and the apartment, which I received for free at 25 years old, there are also those who are always dissatisfied
      He worked in the civil service for 3,5 years. He was a leading specialist. Unfortunately I didn’t get either an apartment or a sn 80-100k, there wasn’t even 50k. And no one had it. I guess I went to some wrong civil service.
  23. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 16: 50
    +2
    Well, that's right! The generation of the Unified State Exam sect has grown, which can be easily manipulated. Not for nothing that in all areas there is a conscious dibilization of the population by the current government. You’re manipulating the figs — all the same, Soviet education and the presence of critical thinking in conjunction with resistance to the TV. And youth please! smile
  24. Freeman
    Freeman 28 February 2018 19: 20
    +3
    Olgovich Today, 11:10
    FOR PRESIDENT PUTIN, TENS of millions of Russian citizens stand and NOBODY has the right to insult their choice, accusing them of corruption for 500 rubles, servile servitude to orders and stupidity.

    hi I respect the choice of tens of millions of Russian citizens who sincerely support Putin. This is their RIGHT.
    But personally me offends the confidence of the current government in my "slavish obedience to orders and stupidity." I can explain no other such announcements. My photo.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 1 March 2018 02: 15
      0
      A lot of things are written on the fence, but this is not what is written! Everyone who has a printer in ten minutes is fact laughing promulgates stop
      Quote: Freeman
      I respect the choice of tens of millions of Russian citizens who sincerely support Putin. This is their RIGHT.

      Now, if you respected, you would not throw it.
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 1 March 2018 19: 32
        0
        Vlad today, 02:15
        A lot of things are written on the fence, but this is not what is written! Anyone who has a printer in ten minutes will publish such a fact

        You can not trust me. Do you trust Putin?
        Quote: Freeman
        I respect the choice of tens of millions of Russian citizens who sincerely support Putin. This is their right
        .
        Now, if you respected, you would not throw it.

        I really respect those who sincerely, that is, disinterestedly supports Putin.
        But I am outraged that in order to give even greater scope to the rallies in support of the current government, a "paid extras" is involved. Involuntarily you conclude that everything is here for the money. Or that everything is so bad with support that even a "freebie" people can no longer be enticed - you also need to pay extra.
        All this is sad.
        Threat. By the way, an announcement with an invitation to a rally on March 3 was hung out from us. If it works out tomorrow, I’ll take a picture.
        ZY.ZY. * I’ll take a picture - I’ll refill the toner in the printer, yeah ... wassat
  25. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 1 March 2018 08: 14
    +2
    if it was before why not now
  26. AUL
    AUL 1 March 2018 19: 05
    0
    dSK, you forgot to write about Christian peasants!
  27. shuravi
    shuravi 2 March 2018 11: 02
    +2
    We often stigmatize the West for its shaky values ​​and double standards. So let's hold a rally without singers and celebrities. Without banknotes and buses. Without bureaucratic appeals in the spirit of the Soviet commitments: "From every institution you need to 10 people." We will hold a real rally. True folk. Let a hundred thousand people come to him or only ten people, but he will be honest.


    And how to attract youth? What should she promise? What ideas to offer? Oh yes, honesty.
    For example, now there is an acute shortage of skilled workers. Well then, an honest call will look like this:
    - Young people, let your parents take loans (naturally at interest), train you in professions, and then you come to the capitalists to work for us for a penny! Then get into the life-long bondage of mortgages and dream of buying a used foreign car, and relax in Turkey once a year for a week. And our (those in power) children will lead you.
    Doesn't sound beautiful? But truthfully.
    For, first of all, the lie is all these rallies. Our capitalists, having stolen state-owned enterprises at one time and inherited highly qualified personnel who are ready to work from poverty for a penny, are eager to have this holiday last forever.
    In fact, do not spend money on staff training, then pay him a decent salary. Something and the next toy beloved child is not enough.
    Because, why not turn to the technologies of the USSR? After all, then it worked, maybe it will pass now? For free, which, unlike those years, is now lying.

    It’s regrettable, but I, in the past a career soldier who passed Afghanistan, Chechnya, will be the first to call a fool a young man who will choose Putin instead of an iPhone.
    For all patriotic appeals and speeches are immediately crossed out by the next dashing race through the streets of Moscow, "golden" youth. When Rogozin-like, under the same beautiful speeches, they drag their kids to leading posts. When officials, judges, deputies, are turned into an untouchable caste.
    In general, you can list for a long time, but there is only one conclusion:

    - Socialism is long over, gentlemen. Please now pay for everything, or go to a well-known address.
  28. lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 March 2018 02: 49
    +2
    At this rally, singers and "stars" from the TV are not required. And of course, nobody is ousted to a real rally using well-known bureaucratic methods. You either go to the rally yourself if you support his ideas, or you don’t go if you don’t agree with the protesters. A meeting of “supporters” or “opponents” for the sake of money or at the direction of a rally is not a rally and cannot be such.


    Nowhere and never is it impossible to collect a single rally without money.
    in one case, loot is given to the protesters, and in another, artists, food, tents, a booze, stoves for heating, animators and necessarily drugs are brought into it. Stupidly you arrest the loot of revolutionaries, the delivery of material property to the place of protest and in an instant the youth’s incentive to rally disappears .
    All "youth revolutions" take place only with impotence of power which is afraid to use law enforcement agencies.

    An article of open liberal trash with an attempt to pass off their fakes as news.
  29. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 3 March 2018 16: 28
    0
    those who come to the rally concert "For a strong Russia!" in Luzhniki, will receive 500 rubles.
    It will not be enough! At neighbors, a daughter about 7 years ago in college students went to some kind of trade union coven for 500 rubles.
  30. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 3 March 2018 16: 31
    0
    Can we do that?
    No.
    Or do we also have double standards?
    Yes.
  31. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 4 March 2018 17: 15
    +2
    Quote: Greenwood
    Quote: Xscorpion
    whose salaries under Putin grew 25-30 times, which the apartments receive from the state, have decent pensions and so on, so don’t forget about them either. I’m not talking about everyone, there are always those who are dissatisfied, even with a salary of 80-100 thousand and the apartment, which I received for free at 25 years old, there are also those who are always dissatisfied
    He worked in the civil service for 3,5 years. He was a leading specialist. Unfortunately I didn’t get either an apartment or a sn 80-100k, there wasn’t even 50k. And no one had it. I guess I went to some wrong civil service.


    I also have a son with acquaintances, I served an urgent term, doesn’t work, I’m sitting on my neck. My question is why I don’t return to the army, the answer is, I have to serve for 25 thousand rubles. In my city, it's in the province, not in Moscow, next to the house part, there is no tension, at 8-30 for work, for lunch at home 2 hours, at 6 pm at home, weekends, vacations, the prospect of a separate apartment. I suggested that if he wants a lot of money, you need to go away .North, Far East, abroad (not Syria) where salaries are even for a 19-year-old boy, the second year of service is 40-50 tr. But he says no, it's far, I want that kind of money here, and it's cold in the North and it’s hot in the south. It’s not working for the third year already. And it’s you who also worked somewhere in a warm place most likely, otherwise you would have known that a salary of 70 thousand rubles for the military in many places is a common thing. You just need to serve not at home. this requires a minimum of character and a desire to change something in life.