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Belarusian MAZ minus Russian components is equal to Ukrainian Bogdan-63172?

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Ukrainian portal "Ukrmilitari" reports that the 78 and 227 battalions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces received new Bogdan-63172 trucks. We are talking about military vehicles with a wheel formula 6х6, which were recently allowed to operate in the Ukrainian armed forces after testing. It is especially emphasized that on Bogdan-63172 "there are no Russian components".


From the material (translation):
Bogdan-63172 is a modification of the MAZ-6317 without the use of Russian components. The car is equipped with a WP6E10.380 WeichalPower 32-cylinder turbocharged diesel engine with a displacement of 9,726 l and an HP 380 power. and PPC company FastGear.

One of the first to receive them was the Krivoy Rog 78 th separate battalion of material support for the operational command Vostok. After withdrawal from the zone of the ATO to a point of permanent deployment in December last year, the battalion received ten new Bogdan-63172 trucks.


The commander of the material support battalion, 78, Andrei Polyansky of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, stated that such vehicles are effectively used in the supply of property.

Some characteristics of Bogdan-6317: payload - 11,5 t (capacity up to 48 people in the body); cabin with two places and a berth.

It is stated that within a month, 10 of the same vehicles will arrive in the Ukrainian troops.

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  1. jovanni
    jovanni 26 February 2018 14: 21
    +16
    The commander of the material support battalion, 78, Andrei Polyansky of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, stated that such vehicles are effectively used in the supply of property.

    And most importantly, they are no less effective in the removal of property. Stealing 11,5 tons at a time is not a joke ...
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 26 February 2018 15: 07
      +3
      On this and the whole calculation was done.
    2. BAI
      BAI 26 February 2018 15: 50
      +3
      Yes, even on rough terrain, bypassing all posts and checkpoints ...
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 26 February 2018 14: 24
    +9
    Yes, someone in Belarus is clearly trying to sit on three chairs! Only now, as if the fifth point from the effort did not break!
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 26 February 2018 14: 33
      +10
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Yes, someone in Belarus is clearly trying to sit on three chairs! Only now, as if the fifth point from the effort did not break!

      Come on you dad to run into. He fills the Belarusian treasury as best he can. And at the same time
      RIA News. Between January and November 2017, trade between Russia and Ukraine increased by 28,6% to $ 9,36 billion.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 26 February 2018 14: 52
        +6
        Pyramidon hi -l praise him in the next life! I would have long held a referendum on Belarus joining Russia! So he shakes for his tronik!
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 26 February 2018 15: 06
          +3
          Quote: Herkulesich
          So he shakes for his tronik!

          His support in Belarus is higher than Putin’s in Russia, as it were. Why shake?
          1. sgw
            sgw 27 February 2018 05: 21
            +2
            But what about. And the turnout at the elections is 110%. And everyone votes only for HIM (great and terrible).
        2. Bypassed
          Bypassed 26 February 2018 15: 54
          +5
          I am ashamed to ask with whom in the composition - with these:
          Russia announced a ban from February 26 on the import of milk, cream and other dairy products from Belarus.
          Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/582675.html
          Well, with such friends and enemies is not necessary.
          As for the supply of automotive equipment to (in) Ukraine, it seems that Belarus is not an aggressor and Ukraine is free to trade with this CIS country. You also need good cars - buy, no question. Quickly, efficiently, under the client.
          1. Non liberoid Russian
            Non liberoid Russian 26 February 2018 17: 00
            +7
            well, yes, milk that does not turn sour ... like "high-quality" and according to Soviet "guests" produced products, which for some reason are sold mainly to Russia, because no one else buys
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 27 February 2018 12: 27
              0
              Now Belarusians and our often supply strange milk. It does not sour for a very long time (with the exception of ultra-pasteurized, it is not very good). And, worst of all, it goes dead after a while. And it’s not sour like, but it tastes terrible muck, causing a vomiting effect.
          2. LASVEGAS
            LASVEGAS 26 February 2018 17: 00
            +6
            We buy home Belarusian milk, really good! If it’s not in your store (we’ll arrive late :)) we take the Dzhankoy, also, so far, genuine.
            But, Belarusian shrimp ???
            Therefore, they cover up your milk, maybe you are running a product under your own brand! A business is a business, but cunning fall is not good :)
          3. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 27 February 2018 12: 24
            +1
            You know, the quality of dairy products from Belarus has really worsened over the past few years. I always preferred Belarusian milk (kefir and milk), but something has come across several times the product is not very high quality. And the sausage is not the same as three or four years ago.
        3. Zhukoffski
          Zhukoffski 26 February 2018 19: 15
          +2
          So Belarusians do not want to be part of Russia.
          1. shvn
            shvn 26 February 2018 22: 20
            +1
            So we don’t seem to call ...
          2. sgw
            sgw 27 February 2018 05: 23
            +1
            Do not judge by yourself. It’s better to take an interest in how many compatriots are already working in the Russian Federation and how much they will return later.
          3. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 27 February 2018 12: 30
            0
            Tatarstan and Bashkiria are part of the Russian Federation, and the regions of the Russian Federation are not the latest in terms of living standards and development. And the federal authorities reckon with their elites. What, Belarus with a population twice as large as in Tatarstan, could not protect its interests as part of the Russian Federation?
          4. estidea
            estidea 27 February 2018 17: 09
            0
            don't speak for everyone
        4. Piramidon
          Piramidon 27 February 2018 16: 23
          0
          Quote: Herkulesich
          I would have long held a referendum on Belarus joining Russia!

          What hangover should he carry it from? Was there any demand in Belarus (like in Crimea) to hold a referendum on this issue? Wishlist and the wishes of some of our Russian bloggers, he does not take into account.
      2. Valery Saitov
        Valery Saitov 27 February 2018 14: 42
        0
        ... and the export of Ukrainian goods to Russia increased over the indicated period by 11,9% (up to 3,06 billion dollars).

        RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/economy/20180103/1512096245.html
    2. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 26 February 2018 14: 45
      +4
      Nothing personal, just business. As if Russian manufacturers are still not trading with Ukrainians. This is an open secret.
    3. loginovich
      loginovich 26 February 2018 14: 54
      +8
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Yes, someone in Belarus is clearly trying to sit on three chairs! Only now, as if the fifth point from the effort did not break!

      This old man passed military equipment from the Crimea in the 14th year of the Armed Forces? And you talk about father’s chairs About the mirror do not want to remember?
      1. SOF
        SOF 26 February 2018 15: 26
        +9
        Quote: loginovich
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Yes, someone in Belarus is clearly trying to sit on three chairs! Only now, as if the fifth point from the effort did not break!

        This old man passed military equipment from the Crimea in the 14th year of the Armed Forces? And you talk about father’s chairs About the mirror don't want to remember?

        ...we do not want...
        Because in the 14th, from the Crimea, the owners did not need the trash they gave. And not once for money ... but just like that, exactly until the moment when this stuff was not used in the Donbass ...
        Do not confuse politics, as is the case with the Crimea, and business with MAZs-Bogdans.
        1. loginovich
          loginovich 26 February 2018 17: 03
          +3
          Quote: SOF
          Do not confuse politics, as is the case with the Crimea, and business with MAZs-Bogdans.

          You eat sweets ": Roshen" and dad can not sell part of the car.
          https://ria.ru/economy/20180103/1512096245.html
          MORE IN THE MIRROR LOOK!
          1. SOF
            SOF 26 February 2018 17: 51
            +5
            Quote: loginovich
            You eat sweets ": Roshen" and dad can not sell part of the car.

            ... past the cash register ...
            Of course I didn’t look purposefully, but where I wasn’t wearing it - Parashkov’s sweets, in assortment, can only be found with you, and even with some neighbors ..... CSTO allies, with extremely oiled and no less smeared foreign policy both in the Donbass and in Syria.
            So the comments on the uncertainty, with a chair, asses of our closest friends very much have a place to be ....
            1. Valery Saitov
              Valery Saitov 27 February 2018 14: 47
              +1
              Is the sale of Ukrainian Roshen chocolates permitted in Russia?
              There is no information in the state information resource on the withdrawal of the ban established by the letter of the Federal Service of Rospotrebnadzor dated July 29.07.2013, 01 No. 8613 / 13-32-1704, namely, on the suspension of the import of confectionery products into the Russian Federation (HS codes 1806, XNUMX) produced on factories of the Roshen Confectionery Corporation (Ukraine): PJSC Kiev Confectionery Factory Roshen, PJSC Vinnitsa Confectionery Factory, PJSC Mariupol Confectionery Factory Roshen, PJSC Kremenchug Confectionery Factory Roshen.
              So, the Roshen factory is located in the Russian city of Lipetsk. However, the production process at the factory is completely stopped. In June 2017, the preservation of production was completely completed at the factory. At the same time, the property of the factory was arrested by decision of the Moscow Basmanny court. That is, the owner of the enterprise cannot sell it.
              In addition, the Roshen Corporation includes Lithuanian, Hungarian, Kazakhstani and even Chinese units.
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 27 February 2018 16: 37
              0
              Quote: SOF
              Of course I didn’t purposefully seek

              This fall (somewhere in October-November) I bought gas for lighters in cans. I read the manufacturer and opened his mouth. "Made in Ukraine" !!! Karl, they sell us our gas.
        2. LASVEGAS
          LASVEGAS 26 February 2018 17: 03
          +2
          SOF removed from the language :)
          1. SOF
            SOF 26 February 2018 17: 51
            0
            Quote: LASVEGAS
            SOF removed from the language :)

            laughing sorry - did not want to.
      2. LASVEGAS
        LASVEGAS 26 February 2018 17: 02
        +2
        You would see this "technique" !!! Not a technique passed, but a headache, what to do with this scrap metal
    4. Slovak
      Slovak 26 February 2018 16: 56
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Yes, someone in Belarus is clearly trying to sit on three chairs! Only now, as if the fifth point from the effort did not break!

      almost 25 years sitting on any number of chairs, tempered Old Man! The Zapashny brothers must have been jealous of their abilities; they don’t have such circus performers
  3. ustinov.yuri
    ustinov.yuri 26 February 2018 14: 24
    +3
    For Old Man money does not smell. Although ... Sick because of two dozen ..
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 26 February 2018 14: 35
      +6
      Quote: ustinov.yuri
      For Old Man money does not smell. Although ... Sick because of two dozen ..

      But the natives especially and not where laughing the sales market is mainly CIS countries. yes
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 26 February 2018 14: 37
    0
    KRAZ and this MAZ, as I understand it, now they use only components ... Ukraine lacks KRAZ and they make up for MAZ? Are these cars of the same class, unlike Kamaz?
    1. LASVEGAS
      LASVEGAS 26 February 2018 17: 06
      0
      What is the difference from KAMAZ? All three are not SUVs and real crooks! I, in the Soviet army really liked the Laptezhniki, amazing Krazy. There were.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 26 February 2018 17: 32
        0
        The difference was in the carrying capacity and in the engine .... In the classic KRAZ, MAZ, KamAZ. There are so many versions of Kamaz now that the devil will break his leg.
      2. Sofa expert
        Sofa expert 27 February 2018 12: 30
        0
        The fact of the matter is that. ... were
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 26 February 2018 21: 53
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      KRAZ and this MAZ, as I understand it, now they use only components ..

      no
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Ukraine lacks KRAZ

      Yes. There is no series (mass production)
      Quote: Zaurbek
      they make up MAZami?

      Bogdans, from MAZ there’s a cabin and frame, the engine and gearbox are Chinese, but at the MAZs YaMZ regularly lives
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Are these cars of the same class, unlike Kamaz?

      Yes. All off-road vehicles, including KamAZ.
      But MAZ 6317 is the most advanced because it was created according to T.Z. V.S. USSR of the late 80s. The rest of the factories did not have time to present serial machines for this T.Z.
      In fact, MAZ 6317 is the only serial truck that meets the requirements of another T.Z. and, oddly enough, still meets the requirements.
      1. SOF
        SOF 26 February 2018 23: 27
        +1
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        In fact, MAZ 6317 is the only serial truck that meets the requirements of T.Z.

        ... no one here belittles the dignity of MAZ, but your house doesn’t have a tube TV, right?
        T.Z. M.O., already RF, have changed a lot now, like TVs.
        And in order to comply with them MAZ is no longer strong and mandatory ...
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 3 March 2018 17: 20
          0
          Quote: SOF
          T.Z. M.O., already of the Russian Federation, has now changed very much, like televisions.

          T.Z. Of course, you can change as you wish, but the laws of physics are not very.
          Quote: SOF
          And in order to comply with them MAZ is no longer strong and mandatory ...

          Yes MAZ was not obligatory to the previous requirements, but only one of the participants in the competition.
  5. bazzbazz
    bazzbazz 26 February 2018 14: 38
    +2
    This is just a business!
  6. ltc35
    ltc35 26 February 2018 14: 39
    0
    Fine! Special order for Svidomo. They put diesel engines on old zils ... Yes, even rhinestones on the windshield. Who pays and does yes
  7. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 26 February 2018 14: 47
    0
    Pans do not even understand that such a layout, when the cabin is directly above the wheel, is deadly for the crew when it is detonated by a mine, since all the energy of a mine explosion goes up. Therefore, all over the world, the military refuse to purchase cars with such an arrangement. And only the pots joyfully jump.
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 26 February 2018 16: 44
      +3
      and it’s even seen by Kamaz for the Armed Forces
      1. LASVEGAS
        LASVEGAS 26 February 2018 17: 09
        +2
        And yet, yes, in the event of an explosion, the cabin above the wheel manages to slip through at a speed of 60, one and a half two meters! The bonnet does not give such a handicap, one and a half meters is already an explosion under the carrier :(
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 27 February 2018 18: 20
          +1
          Kamaz drives at supersonic speed? I'm happy for you, pan-headed skakuasa laughing. You fully deserve Poroshenko!
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 26 February 2018 15: 26
    +1
    any war is never alone, it always has sponsors and all kinds of creditors ...
  9. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 26 February 2018 19: 13
    0
    It is emphasized that on Bogdan-63172 "there are no Russian components"

    Yeah, and then it turns out that history repeats the Polish Pesa trams made at UVZ, from which they later had to scrape off the logo of the enterprise from the "aggressor country" laughing
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 26 February 2018 21: 58
      0
      Quote: Metallurg_2
      It is emphasized that on Bogdan-63172 "there are no Russian components"

      Yeah, and then it turns out that history repeats the Polish Pesa trams made at UVZ, from which they later had to scrape off the logo of the enterprise from the "aggressor country" laughing

      There are Russian components on the MAZ-6317, the engine from YaMZ and the box and + on the little things
      On Bogdan-63172, the engine and gearbox are Chinese.
      A trifle team and I won’t even be surprised if it turns out to be Russian, which is officially delivered to Ukraine.
  10. trahterist
    trahterist 26 February 2018 22: 12
    0
    As the techie was confused by the engine, WeichaiPower ... yes, to the military version of MAZ ...
    And Old Man is young! Saboteur, for heroes to shove the most budget-friendly golem China.
    1. Sofa expert
      Sofa expert 27 February 2018 12: 36
      0
      We know these engines =) a rare dirty trick =) I put yamz 238 in my Tatar and I don’t blow it in my mustache =) we drag the forest on weekends from the main work,
  11. Evil 55
    Evil 55 27 February 2018 03: 56
    0
    Well done Belarusians .. Good, roomy "tulips" for the APU and just in time, by spring ..
  12. edigs
    edigs 27 February 2018 06: 26
    0
    Belarusians openly support the junta of Ukraine that came to power after the overthrow of the legal government by American mercenaries and now support the genocide of Russians in the Donbass. What are Russia's allies after that, what does Putin pay them for?
  13. Roman Lenivov
    Roman Lenivov 27 February 2018 09: 38
    0
    Oh Pets Poproshenko and profit. After all, the plant that produces his “Bogdany”, as well as the plant that produces boats for the Ukrin fleet, is also Petsyn.
  14. demos1111
    demos1111 27 February 2018 10: 13
    0
    Quote: Thrall
    Quote: Herkulesich
    So he shakes for his tronik!

    His support in Belarus is higher than Putin’s in Russia, as it were. Why shake?

    He has support (on paper). As a communal apartment will raise to 70 rubles from a kopeck piece in Minsk (and say pay 65% ​​of the total amount), his support will decrease. And this is at the price of raw materials that Russia supplies.
    And for me, he has no support here.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 3 March 2018 17: 16
      0
      Quote: demos1111
      And for me, he has no support here.

      aha
      according to yesterday's data (March 2, 2018), there are already 10% of villages with the government
  15. Vaska-cat
    Vaska-cat 27 February 2018 10: 44
    0
    Money doesn't smell ...