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Debt Russia? Take more - she will forgive!

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Forgiving debts to foreign “partners” and “friends” has long become a political fashion in Russia. But why? Why is Moscow squandering people's money with such ease? Or no chance of getting something out of the debtor? So is it time to stop the very vicious practice of distributing money to anyone who asks? Is it time to stop arming on credit, build nuclear power plants on credit and so on?


Debt Russia? Take more - she will forgive!


In February, 2018 Russia forgave Kyrgyzstan a debt of two hundred and forty million dollars. Millions in currency, apparently, to anything Russia.

Officially, such a pardon is called the signing of a law on the settlement of Kyrgyzstan’s debt to Russia on previously granted loans. The law was signed by V. V. Putin.

"Settlement" refers to the cancellation of the so-called debt balance. 240 million dollars - only part of the loans issued to Kyrgyzstan. The total amount - 488,9 million. Of all this money, Kyrgyzstan paid only 55,1 million

Kyrgyzstan has long debt forgiveness история. The parties agreed on a “settlement” as early as 2012. In 2013, Russia wrote off about 188,9 million to the country. The remaining amount (300 million) was to be written off within ten years. Exactly one year ago, in February of 2017, President Atambayev addressed Putin with a request for a one-time write off of the remaining debt. According to him, such a write-off will improve the debt indicators of Kyrgyzstan.

Wow! If we add, everyone forgave Kyrgyzstan’s debts, in the near future it would have acquired the reputation of a first-class borrower on the world credit market.

The example of Kyrgyzstan is not unique. we started with him simply because he is the freshest in the politics of our generous government.

In recent years, the Kremlin has written off debts not only from Kyrgyzstan. In 2016-2017 debts forgiven Mozambique, Uzbekistan and Mongolia. The total amount of the "settlement" was about 1,4 billion dollars. Moreover, Kyrgyzstan is in this "club" forgiven with 2005 year. From 2005 to 2016, recalls "Lenta.ru", the Russian side has forgiven Kyrgyz about 703 million dollars. And for 12 years, the amount of forgiven debts was about a billion dollars.

No, do not need the currency of the country.

Uzbekistan is the second brotherly country, which also wants a “settlement”. And receives.

In 2016, Russia wrote off a debt in the amount of 865 million dollars to Uzbekistan. That was the debt on overdue loans issued in 1992-1993. The agreement provided for Uzbekistan’s rejection of claims to a share in the Diamond Fund of the former USSR, which he himself valued at billion dollars to 1-2.

In 2016, Russia "settled" 170 million dollars of Mongolian debt (97% of all debt). Mongolian debt arose in the 1990-ies since the failure of the loan of the Soviet era, intended to pay for the participation of Mongolia in the joint venture Mongolrostsvetmet. According to Russia, the debt restrained the development of investment cooperation, including the implementation by the companies of the Russian Federation of projects in the transport and mining sectors in Mongolia. However, this is not all debt relief. Earlier, in 2003, Moscow forgave Mongolia 11,1 billion dollars. This is also the debt of the Soviet era, which arose because of a loan worth 11,4 billion dollars.

In 2017, the Kremlin has forgiven forty million Mozambique - a trifle compared to other “settlements”. According to Lenta, this decision appeared to be of a “humanitarian” nature.

In addition, V. Putin recalled that Russia has forgiven the debts of more than twenty billion dollars to African states. Probably, the president was referring to debts written off from 2008 to 2012. Well, before that, Russia wrote off more 16 billions to African countries.

The amounts are truly astronomical.

Russia itself got all one hundred percent of the debt of the USSR. In 2017, she finally closed the matter, paying off with Bosnia and Herzegovina. “Initially, Russia, as the successor of the RSFSR, had to pay 61,34 a percent of the debt, the remaining obligations were distributed among the former Soviet republics: for example, Kyrgyzstan had to pay 0,95 percent, and Tajikistan - 0,82 percent, reminds Anastasia Stakhanova. “However, in 1993, Russia assumed the obligation to pay the USSR debt in full in exchange for the refusal of the former republics of shares in the foreign assets of the Soviet Union: they could claim parts of the“ inheritance ”equivalent to the size of the debt they inherited from the USSR.”

Recall that in 2006, Moscow paid off in full the debts to the Paris Club (23,7 billion dollars).

In 2013, Russia paid in full to the fraternal Czech Republic (3,6 billion dollars).

The Czech Republic was followed by Montenegro ($ 18 million) and Finland ($ 30 million).

Why are there Soviet debts - Russia pays royal ones too!

After the abdication of Nicholas II, in March seventeenth, the Provisional Government reported to the West about its readiness to service external debt. True, the Bolsheviks, who made another revolution, did not agree with this. In January, 1918 was approved by the decree on the cancellation of royal loans.

Meanwhile, foreign capitalists did not intend to forgive Russia's royal debts. And Russia began to pay the market! In the 1996 year, recalls "Lenta.ru", Moscow signed an agreement with France on payment, and in 2000 it transferred 400 million dollars. Earlier, an agreement on the settlement of debts of pre-revolutionary Russia was concluded in the 1986 year with Great Britain: the communist general secretary M. S. Gorbachev signed such an agreement with M. Thatcher.

In short, Russia pays. Pays, pays and pays again.

And then he forgives his debtors.

We consider the size of the "settlement" further.

2014 year. Russia has written off Cuba of debts for a deafening amount - more than thirty billion dollars. This “settlement” took place right before Putin’s visit to Havana. Experts immediately spoke out: they say, Russian oil companies "are looking for oil on the shelf of Cuba." However, Cuba, after forgiveness of debts, immediately became close to the United States.

Fraternal country? This term excitedly deputies A. Ischenko (LDPR) in 2014 year. “When it comes to debt cancellation even for fraternal countries, for some reason we always forget about our own citizens,” he said. Gazeta.ru. “Why didn’t the government raise the question, for example, on granting free vouchers to all citizens of the country to Cuba? ..” And then the deputy voiced a whole list of proposals for writing off debts from the Russian population: to forgive the villagers of the Russian Agricultural Bank, all Russians who took loans in Sberbank for a mortgage, to make a discount in 90% ... And it would be nice to give citizens of the Russian Federation a discount in 90% for utility services. And then allocate forgiven thirty billion debt to support the industry. “We are raising taxes from our population, we are raising taxes from business only to plug holes,” the deputy said angrily. - This money goes to the recapitalization of Vnesheconombank, go to some ineffective projects, which are then stolen. When will this end? When will we think about our citizens? ”

Speaking of "fraternal" Cuba, the deputy said:

“I understand that here is a brotherly country, maybe it should be treated according to the fraternal principle. Then I offer, dear colleagues from the technical majority party, offer your at least party members, members of the United Russia party who are taking a mortgage from Sberbank, offer them an 90-percent discount on this loan. And I think that they will rightly appreciate your proposal. ”


And the debts are “smaller”. In quotes, of course.

Iraq "settled" debts on 21,5 billion dollars - in 2004 and 2008. Interestingly, the new debt was forgiven for the second time: Iraq gained credits again after forgiving the previous debt in 2004, reminds "TVNZ".

And why not recruit, if forgive?

North Korea, after 2012, wrote off about $ 10 billion

Syria has forgiven 9,8 billion dollars in exchange for "agreements" in the construction, production of oil and gas.

“In theory, after each such write-off, be it Cuba, Nicaragua or North Korea,” KP quotes Mikhail Khromov from the Institute. Gaidar - that side should give Russian companies the most favored mode. But I cannot remember a single example, so that after the debt was written off, some contracts would actually appear. ”

Look further into the past. Let's see how the Kremlin under Putin turns the wheel of attraction of unheard of generosity.

In 2000, Russia "settled" most of the debt (9,5 billion from 11 billion) of Vietnam, recalls "Lenta.ru".

In 2001, Moscow relieved fraternal Ethiopia from debt (3,8 from 4,8 a billion dollars, the remaining billion was written off a little later, in 2005 year).

Under the write-off came, of course, and fraternal Afghanistan: 11 forgiven billions of dollars.

Waited for favors and Libya (4,6 billion dollars).

The financial result of the policy of mass forgiveness, which lasts about two decades and is expressed in hard currency: “settled” more than 140 billions of dollars!

Why should so much forgive? Isn't it better, though, to distribute vouchers to citizens? Especially against the background of the fact that foreign experts declared Russia in 2018 year “weak and unlucky”? (Read about it at "IN".)

In exchange, Russia expects to receive certain preferences. Experts try to give an explanation to these preferences. For example, S. Hestanov, a macroeconomic adviser from the Otkritie brokerage house, speaking with Lentoy.ru, called the debts written off by Russia “hopeless”. Forgiveness of these debts allows you to incline the debtor to solutions that are beneficial for the lender. However, the expert acknowledges the following: “The write-off of debts to Cuba and the DPRK has somewhat increased the influence of Russia in this region. But it did not bring material benefits. ” The expert apparently found it difficult to measure the “influence” of Russia.

The same “fraternal” Soviet debts with “preferences” attributed to the times of a brighter future, Russia forgives everywhere.

Vasily Kashin, Leading Researcher at the Institute of Far Eastern Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, explained to the Russian Service "BBC"that most of the debts written off by Russia are debts to the Soviet Union. In the 1980s, the expert noted, Moscow armed its allies around the world with an average of 25 billion dollars each year. “These are almost entirely Soviet debts that the Soviet Union distributed for political reasons without any analysis of the ability to pay them,” said Kashin.

The other day, in February 2018, Russian Deputy Minister of Finance Sergei Storchak undertook to explain Russian generosity. He said Gazeta.ru, why Russia forgives others, and returns debts with interest. Here is his explanation:

“This is a very big“ vulgar ”- so to speak and think. In each case and the loan issued to understand. Our debts, obligations that are properly drawn up and nominated in reserve currencies, are our obligations. And those requirements that were spelled out and left to us from the former Soviet Union are exotic. ”


He also added that loans issued half a century ago were issued for political reasons.

“The principle of Russia is this: that we can return we return, that we can not capitalize write off or restructure. - explained "Moskovsky Komsomol" Alexander Mikhaylenko, Professor at the Institute of Law and National Security, RANEPA. “We are not engaged in charity, support for“ fraternal peoples, ”as was done during the Soviet times.”

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It is hard to believe such statements against the background of writing off debts amounting to more than one hundred and forty billion dollars. True, at the "top" it was increasingly said that the planned restoration of Syria is not at all fraternal assistance.

Recently, Mr. Rogozin made it clearthat investments in the restoration of Syria should be cost-effective: after all, we must think about the Russian budget. According to him, the Russian business in Syria considers "every penny, every ruble." One should “think not only about another country, even so close and friendly, but we now have to think about how to earn money in our budget, for our citizens, for people who are also waiting for some return from the big work of the Russian Federation on the territory of Syria” .

However, these are just words. In Syria, the devastation, the war continues, people are dying. And talking about some prospects is about the same as promising to build communism by the 1980 year.

If the Western states that provided loans to tsarist Russia, have shown a century of patience, then why not learn from these enterprising and patient gentlemen of Russia?

You can learn from "non-brotherly" capitalists and something else. Russia in finance for some reason traditionally puts the wrong horse. Maybe it is time to stop the practice of "generous soul" and learn to look at things realistically?

Or in the Kremlin, for example, they believe that Bangladesh is the richest country that will pay a loan for nuclear power plants without problems and make Russia rich in “preferences”? By the way signed The credit document from Russia is the very same Deputy Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation - Mr. Storchak.

In reality, Bangladesh is one of the poorest countries in Asia, the population of this small country periodically goes hungry. Exotic ...

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  1. Semen1972
    Semen1972 27 February 2018 15: 19
    +12
    In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Loans are given for any concessions. Military bases, contracts, or something else.
    It is unlikely that we give a loan to Kyrgyzstan for profit.
    1. LASVEGAS
      LASVEGAS 27 February 2018 15: 27
      +29
      Only Kyrgyzstan does not extend the contract with us :)
      "Threw into the abyss" from the movie "Prisoner of the Caucasus"
      1. 210ox
        210ox 27 February 2018 16: 59
        +7
        What is there and how they agree not for us to know. It would be better to be concerned about the problem of withdrawing money over a hill ..
        Quote: LASVEGAS
        Only Kyrgyzstan does not extend the contract with us :)
        "Threw into the abyss" from the movie "Prisoner of the Caucasus"
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 27 February 2018 15: 36
      +42
      Quote: Semen1972
      In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Loans are given for any concessions. Military bases, contracts, or something else.

      In theory, this is so. But in practice ... how to take credit is a brotherly people, and how to provide reciprocal concessions - so immediately the brotherly people turns into a sovereign state. smile
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 27 February 2018 18: 51
        +38
        There is a serious site
        "People's Initiative" http://ni.kprf.ru/, on which any citizen of the Russian Federation can support one or another initiative.
        This is the Communist Party’s Internet project for the development of civic initiatives, which allows you to really gain the required number of votes for consideration at the legislative level.
        The program of popular initiatives is far from being a set of good wishes, but a concrete plan of priority actions.
        Here is one of the recent initiatives:

        Legally prohibit the President of the Russian Federation from writing off debts to other countries
        According to RBC, Russia writes off huge debts to the CIS countries and other countries. So, in 2016. Putin V.V. wrote off debt to Uzbekistan in the amount of $ 865 million. Prior to this, debts were written off:
        - Mongolia - $ 170 million; Afghanistan - $ 12 billion; Libya - $ 4,5 billion
        - Kyrgyzstan - in stages with 2013. written off: $ 188,9 million, $ 60 million, soon another $ 240,0 million will be written off
        It follows only from the information provided that, starting with 2013. Russia deducted from the treasury a total of about $ 18 billion (I believe that the debts written off were not allocated from the personal savings of officials) And this is only according to published information. And how many more debts are written off according to unpublished data - we do not know. It is not clear why to lend at all to those who obviously cannot or will not want to return it? Something I never met the information that the rich and highly developed states (the USA, Great Britain, Germany, France and others), which respected themselves and their people, gave to poor states a loan, but they did not get it back. Only according to the information presented, it turns out that Russia simply has nowhere to put money.

        How can this be so? The people suffocating from impoverished pensions and impoverished salaries to state employees, pennies are allocated to help people with disabilities, the economy is ruined and its prosperity is not expected in the coming years, free education is completely killed, medicine, social programs are cut, free-of-charge beneficiaries near Moscow are prohibited from traveling in Moscow city transport, in the country there is no system for providing beneficiaries with free medicines. Moscow and its suburbs live as two different states in terms of providing social benefits, salaries and pensions. Despite the fact that almost all of Moscow Region works in Moscow. Nobody knows how the assistance signed by Putin to families with children will work. But at present, not every young family will decide on a second child - there is no stability in the country, today there is work, and tomorrow there is none, prices are constantly rising for food and utilities, and there is state assistance today, and tomorrow - it is not known whether or not she will be in time for inflation, and with her maternity capital - it’s also nonsense: you can’t get any housing in Moscow and the region, and you can’t get the money, although they are needed so far while my mother doesn’t work, but sitting with a child and the family pulls on one dad's salary. Enormous reductions go on and on, people cannot find a decent job and are left without a livelihood. If the government is not able to boost the economy and restore production, provide people with jobs, is it not better to give these billions of dollars to their people? And we write off billions of dollars in debt to those countries that then spit in our backs and betray us?

        The solution
        Considering that obviously bad debts are allocated from the Russian treasury, in which there is sorely no money for a decent salary to doctors, teachers and other state employees, nor for decent pensions, or for decent social benefits,
        - decide on the allocation of debt and its cancellation only on the basis of a popular referendum: people agree to write off the debt - write off.

        Expected Result
        1. Money from the Russian treasury, replenished by population taxes, will not go nowhere. 2. It’s easier for the people to live a little. 3. Debtor states, accustomed to writing off debts, will begin to respect our country more respectfully.
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 28 February 2018 00: 14
          +10
          Quote: Pax tecum
          It follows only from the information provided that, starting in 2013. Russia has written off at the expense of the treasury a total of about $ 18 billion.

          yes this is almost the full cost of the AUG, with atomic AB + aviation, a pair of UDC and an escort for all this ...
        2. 108- guards pdp
          108- guards pdp 28 February 2018 08: 38
          +3
          Yes, the initiative is good-looking, concrete. But the question is: who will promote and launch it? The Communist Party has outlived its own, and now it's just Statist.
        3. mivmim
          mivmim 3 March 2018 19: 54
          +1
          Communist Party? Enough. We lived under the communists. And they handed out robust, All of Europe at the expense of the Union lived, and not only. By the way, in the 90s, the Communists, along with Zhirinovsky and Yavlinsky, forgave these debts. Neither United Russia nor Putin has yet been. It's a pity the pros were forbidden to set.
      2. Vasyaga
        Vasyaga 26 March 2018 11: 40
        0
        Oh damn, maybe everything is easier? Forgive us three hundred lards, we will give you a percentage ... you can, on the card, you can in cash;)!
    3. Vend
      Vend 27 February 2018 15: 37
      +43
      Quote: Semen1972
      In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Loans are given for any concessions. Military bases, contracts, or something else.
      It is unlikely that we give a loan to Kyrgyzstan for profit.

      And why not forgive the Russians a mortgage, in exchange for people's loyalty to the political course. It is an acceptable exchange.
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 27 February 2018 15: 43
        +6
        Quote: Wend
        And why not forgive the Russians a mortgage, in exchange for people's loyalty to the political course. It is an acceptable exchange.

        Recently forgiven debts on unpaid taxes IP. This is from the same opera. Because they will never be returned. And as for forgiving mortgageers ... So firstly you are not so interesting to the state, and secondly it is just business. Russia, too, does not forgive EVERYONE, on whom it makes money ... I hope)))
        1. Vend
          Vend 27 February 2018 16: 07
          +5
          Quote: Semen1972
          Quote: Wend
          And why not forgive the Russians a mortgage, in exchange for people's loyalty to the political course. It is an acceptable exchange.

          Recently forgiven debts on unpaid taxes IP. This is from the same opera. Because they will never be returned. And as for forgiving mortgageers ... So firstly you are not so interesting to the state, and secondly it is just business. Russia, too, does not forgive EVERYONE, on whom it makes money ... I hope)))

          Well, how not interesting, this is exactly the same electorate in the elections. The bottom line is that debt forgiveness is the legacy of the USSR to forgive debts. one must get rid of this vicious past. It is necessary to attract countries in a different way.
          1. Blackgrifon
            Blackgrifon 27 February 2018 21: 03
            +3
            Quote: Wend
            Well, how not interesting, this is the very electorate in the elections

            Strange idea. How does the state, in your opinion, have to forgive the debt that arose from an individual to a private office? The Russian Federation forgives only debts that have arisen before it. No one ever forgives someone else's debts. It is as if someone borrowed a couple of millions from you, and the state canceled this debt by law.
            1. Svateev
              Svateev 28 February 2018 10: 25
              0
              Quote: Blackgrifon
              How does the state, in your opinion, have to forgive the debt that arose from an individual to a private office?

              Very simple: bankruptcy law nat. persons. The debtor sues and debts to commercial creditors are written off.
              1. Blackgrifon
                Blackgrifon 28 February 2018 17: 02
                +2
                Quote: Svateev
                The debtor sues and debts to commercial creditors are written off.

                Seriously?! So simple? Perhaps that is why with an average of 15000 citizens going to court against an entity throughout the country, only 7800 are declared bankrupt in a year (which is less than lawyers)? Open law and read - any bankruptcy is a means of protection of the creditor.
                1. Svateev
                  Svateev 2 March 2018 16: 50
                  0
                  Quote: Blackgrifon
                  any bankruptcy is a lender's remedy.

                  Not true. The lender's remedy is interim measures - collateral, surety, etc. And forced recovery as well.
                  And bankruptcy is:
                  - if the property of the debtor is less than the amount of the debt, then this is protection and forgiveness of the debtor. “Open” your TV and watch the constantly running ads of law firms: “Legally free from debt!”
                  - if the property of the debtor is more than the amount of the debt, then bankruptcy is the robbery of the debtor in the process of "managing" his property.
                  Quote: Blackgrifon
                  average 15000 of citizens' appeals to the court per subject

                  That's it. Fifteen thousand debtors in each region have already rushed to court for the "forgiveness" of their debt.
                  Now tell me where the banks will get the money to patch holes from the forgiven debts of these borrowing scammers? Except as from deposits of depositors - nowhere else.
                  Quote: Blackgrifon
                  Only 7800 declared bankrupt in a year

                  Here, open the law and see the terms of bankruptcy proceedings. And look how recently the bankruptcy of individuals began to act. Wait a moment. the time will come and banks will begin to crumble from the failure to repay such loans.
                  1. Blackgrifon
                    Blackgrifon 2 March 2018 20: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Svateev
                    Here, open the law and see the terms of bankruptcy proceedings. And look how recently the bankruptcy of individuals began to act. Wait a moment. the time will come and banks will begin to crumble from the failure to repay such loans.


                    With all due respect to you, but you are very far from judicial practice and from this law. Once again: in one middle region, there are 15000 appeals to cantors per year, which advertise themselves in this field, and only 8000 people go bankrupt throughout the country. Those. for a year, fewer physicists are recognized as bankrupt than lawyers - these are dry figures for several years.

                    As for the law, the bankruptcy procedure, in fact, is implemented only if the debtor has property that can be sold or income that allows you to cover the debt to the creditor.
                    If you open the law, you will find that it provides only 2 procedures for individuals (Article 213.2): restructuring of a citizen’s debts, selling a citizen’s property and an amicable agreement (the latter is something like restructuring + selling a property with strict deadlines execution). This list is exhaustive.

                    As for "the time will come and banks will begin to crumble from the non-repayment of such loans", then:
                    1. I really hope that this will not happen in our country;
                    2. Do not consider people who wrote this law as idiots - no one in their right mind will ruin their own banking system. And the point here is not “conspiracies” and other horrors. It's just that in the event of a collapse of the banking system, the crisis in the country will be steeper than all that we knew.

                    Now only the wallet of people who run with statements to different offices is being poured: they are tearing money from them (knowing that the result expected by a person is unattainable), and later they inform the client that "everything was lost." So, just think about it, if everything is so smooth, then why don't up to 90% of the entire private legal and 99% attorney corps try to get involved in the bankruptcy of physicists?

                    As for the "debtor-scammers," then, for information, they have been quite effectively fought with them and this law will not change anything.

                    On this topic, I propose to close: you want to believe in the effectiveness of the bankruptcy mechanism of physicists is your business.
                    1. Svateev
                      Svateev 9 March 2018 17: 06
                      0
                      Quote: Blackgrifon
                      2. do not consider people who wrote this law as idiots - no one in their right mind will ruin their own banking system.

                      And who wrote this law? I am sure that the State Department has been feeding up. Like the law on bankruptcy of legal entities in due time. Bankruptcy of legal entities destroyed the lion's share of Russian industry. Bankruptcy of individuals will destroy the banking system. Because:
                      Quote: Blackgrifon
                      only 2 procedures are provided for individuals (Art. 213.2): restructuring of a citizen’s debts, sale of a citizen’s property and amicable settlement

                      Want to say that restructuring does not provide forgiveness of debts?
                      1. Blackgrifon
                        Blackgrifon 9 March 2018 21: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Svateev
                        restructuring does not provide forgiveness of debts

                        No. Restructuring is, in fact, control over income / expenses.
            2. Tevdori
              Tevdori 2 March 2018 20: 11
              0
              Wait, why should the law cancel other people's debts? This is certainly not right and impossible! But what is the duty between physical. Face and jur. A person can not repay a third party? Is it somewhere forbidden? Cancellation and repayment of debt are two different things.
              1. Svateev
                Svateev 9 March 2018 17: 13
                0
                Quote: Tevdori
                unless a debt between physical. Face and jur. A person can not repay a third party?

                Can. And the corresponding article in the Civil Code is available. This is exactly what some collectors do - they redeem debt and try to collect it. It just does not work out to recover from someone who had previously planned not to repay debts and transferred all the property to relatives.
                The collectors did not work, there is no effect from them, except for screams in the press about their working methods. Therefore, the state went to forgiveness of debts, in fact, signed in impotence.
                1. Blackgrifon
                  Blackgrifon 9 March 2018 21: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Svateev
                  Collectors did not work, there is no effect from them

                  Apparently, you did not encounter their work. Someone is lucky, but the bulk of the debtors suffers and pays.
          2. your1970
            your1970 27 February 2018 21: 06
            +4
            Quote: Wend
            Quote: Semen1972
            Quote: Wend
            And why not forgive the Russians a mortgage, in exchange for people's loyalty to the political course. It is an acceptable exchange.

            Recently forgiven debts on unpaid taxes IP. This is from the same opera. Because they will never be returned. And as for forgiving mortgageers ... So firstly you are not so interesting to the state, and secondly it is just business. Russia, too, does not forgive EVERYONE, on whom it makes money ... I hope)))

            Well, how not interesting, this is exactly the same electorate in the elections. The bottom line is that debt forgiveness is the legacy of the USSR to forgive debts. one must get rid of this vicious past. It is necessary to attract countries in a different way.
            -
            you will not believe - the USA also forgives debts !! Much less often than us - but forgives.
            Like small children !!!
            This is an old principle in politics - giving an actual bribe to the head of a foreign state. The options for this bribe are to give a loan or to forgive a loan. It all depends on the situation in that country - do they need new money in an effort to fall into the plug of the population or is there time and then they write off the old loan. Quite often nobody plans to give or return this money ....
            1999
            "Clinton announced that the project of developed countries that are going to forgive debts to countries with the weakest economies will be supported by the United States. full forgiveness of debts to 36 states, including Bolivia, Honduras, Congo, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Rwanda, Somalia, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda, Zambia... At the same time, Bill Clinton said the following: "Today I orient my administration towards a decision on forgiveness 100% debt in the event that the US debtor countries - and this is very important - if there is a need for a financial base for humanitarian support of these countries and if the money is used there for its intended purpose. "
            - is it not strange that there is a conversation about those same countries, which forgives the debts of the Russian Federation??? The United States is parallel to the Russian Federation in one direction ??
            Think about it - why so ?? capitalists who strangle their mom for a dollar, forgive debts ???
            Politics is a very dirty business and it is impossible to approach it from the perspective of normal people ("you must give back debts!").
            1. zoolu350
              zoolu350 28 February 2018 09: 52
              +7
              Only the difference is that the Fed owners print money, so they can forgive painlessly for at least trilliards, but the oligarch of the Russian Federation forgives other countries forgiveness to other countries is ripped off from the common Russian people.
              1. your1970
                your1970 28 February 2018 11: 32
                +2
                Quote: zoolu350
                Only the difference is that the Fed owners print money, so they can forgive painlessly for at least trilliards, but the oligarch of the Russian Federation forgives other countries forgiveness to other countries is ripped off from the common Russian people.
                - and during the USSR too oligarchs from ordinary people they fought - that they forgave other countries ???? The USSR wrote off no less ....
                1. zoolu350
                  zoolu350 28 February 2018 16: 10
                  +4
                  Yah? The article says that a significant part of the debts is the debts of other countries of the USSR, which means that the USSR did not easily write off debts.
            2. naidas
              naidas 28 February 2018 16: 32
              +1
              Of course, it’s strange that the USA does this from excess, but Russia does not: (the same speech) Clinton announced that the surplus of the US budget this year will be $ 115 billion. According to the president, this is a larger surplus than planned, greater than it was last year. , and in general - this has not happened in US history.
              1. This achievement served as the basis for the presidential plan to reduce taxes by $ 250 billion over the next ten years.
              2. On the same days, the American leader also announced his proposal to raise the salary of many civil servants.
              3. The new heyday of the American national economy has become the basis for expanding aid to the poor.
              4. Clinton announced that the project of developed countries that are going to forgive debts to countries with the weakest economies will be supported by the United States. It is a complete forgiveness of debts to 36 states ...

              At first, then others.
              1. exalibor
                exalibor 3 March 2018 07: 31
                +3
                I wonder where this is from? every year, through the Senate, a law is passed on increasing the limit of state debt for the next trillion .... and then the budget surplus?))))
              2. mivmim
                mivmim 3 March 2018 19: 50
                0
                The new heyday of the American economy has become the basis for expanding aid to the poor.

                Right now I'll pay you with tenderness.))))))))))))))))))
          3. Vasyaga
            Vasyaga 26 March 2018 11: 43
            0
            Type in the election, the electorate consoles what ...
        2. AlexKissner
          AlexKissner 27 February 2018 21: 38
          +14
          Recently forgiven debts on unpaid taxes IP. This is from the same opera. Because they will never be returned.


          Bullshit, dear friend. It was just an election campaign. Debts were “forgiven” as of 01.01.2015, that is, debts that are already three years old. And this according to the Law (three years is the statute of limitations) is already unclaimed debts. They are "forgiven" by a separate decree - no need, they are automatically written off. What they announced on TV as the goodwill of the President - nonsense, they are already written off. Divorce before the election. In this sense, the President VERY disappointed me. This means that we are held for complete suckers. Especially before the election!
          (Shame on you, Vladimir Vladimirovich!)
          1. Giants
            Giants 27 February 2018 23: 12
            +7
            Quote: AlexKissner
            (Shame on you, Vladimir Vladimirovich!)

            But this is you in vain! Vladimir Vladimirovich is not ashamed. He also completely gasifies the fraternal Kyrgyzstan. After all, these are brothers, but not yours.
      2. Victor N
        Victor N 27 February 2018 18: 21
        +5
        And for those who do not have a mortgage - what will happen to them? Those who were not "given an apartment" in the USSR got nothing. So the selective support of some citizens can no longer be allowed.
        1. Vend
          Vend 27 February 2018 18: 59
          0
          Quote: Victor N
          And for those who do not have a mortgage - what will happen to them? Those who were not "given an apartment" in the USSR got nothing. So the selective support of some citizens can no longer be allowed.

          This was an example. Offer your options.
      3. lukewarm
        lukewarm 28 February 2018 09: 25
        0
        Quote: Wend
        And why not forgive the Russians a mortgage, in exchange for people's loyalty to the political course.

        Loyalty of people is EXTERNAL political course and so it is and it is free. And through this, all internal liberal liberal tricks are already beginning to justify
    4. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 27 February 2018 17: 25
      +17
      It is unlikely that we give a loan to Kyrgyzstan for profit.

      Last year I was there, the Kyrgyz giggling what else would they take on such good conditions. And they’ll also wait when Russia gasifies them, because they promised
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 27 February 2018 19: 54
        +2
        Quote: Bulrumeb
        last year was there

        Where were you and who were you talking to ???
        1. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb 28 February 2018 09: 18
          0
          You are to poke it to your homies. And I was in Bishkek and talked with people from Ar-Namys. Arranges?
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 28 February 2018 13: 27
            +2
            Quote: Bulrumeb
            I was in Bishkek and talked with people from Ar-Namys

            laughing We talked with Ar-Namys !!!! good
            It’s the same as going to the Osh Bazaar and having a conversation with politicians about politics !!!
            Excuse me, but Ar Namys is actually not an indicator of the mood of the Kyrgyz !!!!!!!
            1. Bulrumeb
              Bulrumeb 28 February 2018 14: 15
              0
              Is Kulov a bargain from the bazaar?
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 28 February 2018 14: 45
                +2
                Quote: Bulrumeb
                Is Kulov a bargain from the bazaar?

                laughing And you are aware that his party bargained for those who wish to go to foreign countries with their certificates! All in all, 50 Baku People and you are a victim of state arbitrariness and an applicant for political asylum! Kulov ... Kulov in Kyrgyzstan is now no longer remembered, young people often do not know who it is !!!! It was necessary to talk with people, with ordinary people, and not with the corrupt elite!
                1. Bulrumeb
                  Bulrumeb 28 February 2018 15: 25
                  0
                  Yes, I actually do not care deeply whether he traded certificates or not, as they actually recall him or not. He is far from the last man. In Kyrgyzstan, now everything is sold and everything is bought, the question is price. I will not say for 50 Baku people for everyone, but very many will not only sell the certificate, I checked it myself at the border guards and customs officers, they will also transport them across their border through their humps. Freebies from Russia always wait there will not wait.
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 28 February 2018 18: 10
                    +3
                    Quote: Bulrumeb
                    Now everything is for sale and everything is for sale

                    But this is true! And not only in Kyrgyzstan! The border guards and customs officers you quoted here are the same everywhere on the Russian-Kazakh border. and Kazakh-Kyrgyz!
                    Quote: Bulrumeb
                    Yes, I actually do not care

                    it is noticeable on your stuffing !!!
      2. vlad_vlad
        vlad_vlad 27 February 2018 20: 42
        +6
        This article resonates well with the article here yesterday on the topic "Successes in Putin's Foreign Policy."
        and what, the successes of Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, etc. on the face. Maybe Putin is their president?
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 28 February 2018 06: 54
          +4
          Quote: vlad_vlad
          successes of Kyrgyzstan

          The success of Kyrgyzstan lies in the fact that for 8 years there has been no revolution, and for this Kyrgyzstan is grateful to Putin! As a result of the entry of Kyrgyzstan into the Customs Union in Kuzbas, in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, Novosibirsk, Omsk, and Tomsk Regions, deliveries of fruits and vegetables began at a price much lower than import, which entailed the development of agriculture in Kyrgyzstan itself. You will be surprised, but Gazprom bought the Kyrgyz gas company for only 1 $!
          1. Galleon
            Galleon 28 February 2018 15: 19
            +5
            This has been said more than once that Gazprom and the people of Russia are two big differences. Gazprom could receive 10 Kyrgyz companies for free, we won’t feel it. As they collected SMS for children at the operation, they will collect it.
    5. Alber
      Alber 27 February 2018 18: 30
      +10
      Quote: Semen1972
      In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Loans are given for any concessions. Military bases, contracts, or something else.
      It is unlikely that we give a loan to Kyrgyzstan for profit.

      Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya ...
      and if you imagine this option for a minute: the one who writes off debts receives a 5-10-20 %% rollback?
      at least how much, but in your pocket (for a foreign account) ...
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 28 February 2018 05: 00
        +2
        Quote: Alber
        and if you imagine this option for a minute: the one who writes off debts receives a 5-10-20 %% rollback?

        good
      2. your1970
        your1970 28 February 2018 11: 35
        +1
        Quote: Alber
        Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya ...
        and if you imagine this option for a minute: the one who writes off debts receives a 5-10-20 %% rollback?
        at least how much, but in your pocket (for a foreign account) ..
        -When in the USSR, when they wrote off debts to Afghanistan for the supply of military equipment and the construction of roads, did they also put the Politburo in their pocket? Pocket in their own ?? A large Politburo like pocket?
        fool fool
        1. Alber
          Alber 28 February 2018 14: 39
          0
          Quote: your1970
          at least how much, but in your pocket (for a foreign account) ..
          -When in the USSR, when they wrote off debts to Afghanistan for the supply of military equipment and the construction of roads-also the Politburo put in your pocket? Pocket in your pocket?


          Do not touch our POLITBURO!
          The Politburo is OUR ALL!
          And you "your 1970" is not ours at all ...
    6. wellaut
      wellaut 27 February 2018 19: 15
      +2
      Here are just government loans, and private concessions, thereby to the signatories on the Russian side.
    7. Sergey-8848
      Sergey-8848 27 February 2018 20: 41
      +10
      Good country Bangladesh. The population density is 1000 people per 1 sq. Km. They produce only themselves. If before there was a flood or tsunami, then there was always a specific culprit - Krishna. To our misfortune, we became friends with them (and the Chinese contacted them), telling them about the friendship of peoples.
      And let’s give this ass for free S-400 for some horseradish! Both Sudan to the heap.
      1. Artyom Yarovikov
        Artyom Yarovikov 27 February 2018 23: 53
        +2
        Both Bangladesh and India are disgusting. All that is west of northern China and Myanmar is terrible ... There are many people, no education, no health care, starting from Pakistan and further to the west - Iran, the Saudis are religious fanatics (simply crazy) ... trouble.
        1. Alber
          Alber 28 February 2018 14: 41
          0
          Quote: Artyom Yarovikov
          Both Bangladesh and India are disgusting. All that is west of northern China and Myanmar is terrible ... There are many people, no education, no health care, starting from Pakistan and further to the west - Iran, the Saudis are religious fanatics (simply crazy) ... trouble.


          so israel yours then too ...
          and the people there on a square kilometer oh-oh-ee!
          1. Sergey-8848
            Sergey-8848 3 March 2018 19: 23
            0
            The whole question is why a country. Why do the people living in it continue to live in it, and do not flee in different directions from hunger, cold, dirt, tyranny (!).
    8. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 05: 43
      +3
      Quote: Semen1972
      In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Loans are given for any concessions. Military bases, contracts, or something else.
      It is unlikely that we give a loan to Kyrgyzstan for profit.

      And the following dialogue comes to my mind:
      - Russia is writing off your debt, and you are to me ... (and zeros on a napkin)
      1. vkfriendly
        vkfriendly 28 February 2018 07: 38
        +2
        are these zeros in your head or would you like to?
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 28 February 2018 07: 45
          0
          Quote: vkfriendly
          are these zeros in your head or would you like to?

          Well, I just don’t feel like it at all, but you won’t be able to drive away thoughts ..
    9. vkfriendly
      vkfriendly 28 February 2018 07: 36
      +1
      quite rightly, in the age of capitalism nothing is forgiven for nothing. It's just that the author as a layman is far from the topic, and why then writing nonsense is not clear.
    10. cormorant
      cormorant 1 March 2018 01: 20
      +1
      Loans are given for any concessions. Military bases, contracts, or something else.
      Bangladesh what concessions will we make? And royal debts, not exotic?
    11. nickname7
      nickname7 3 March 2018 07: 46
      0
      In my opinion, the answer is obvious. Credits are given for any concessions.

      You would learn to read the text carefully and not ascribe your thoughts to others. The answer is obvious from the point of common sense, but the "dog is buried" is that the leadership of the Russian Federation does not follow common sense, part of the loans are written off without any conditions, which is a very strange and criminal phenomenon.
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 27 February 2018 15: 20
    +14
    Debt Russia? Take more - she will forgive!
    fact...
    1. Usher
      Usher 27 February 2018 17: 01
      +2
      Again about pensions, etc.
      1. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 27 February 2018 19: 29
        +16
        USHER. And what about. if not about retirement? She and I have such a wife. that you can’t be sick. we can not afford. MRI of the lower back in Volgodonsk -3500 rubles. elbow joint-4000. and there’s 100 km to go and I don’t get any closer and I don’t know how much the “free” medications will cost. I’ve got shoe covers and I need 5-2 rubles a day, and I have been going to the doctors for two weeks .. and we are not Muscovites ....
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 27 February 2018 21: 07
          +3
          It's just that old debts can no longer be repaid. And the cancellation is usually carried out according to the "Soviet" scheme: we are writing off the debt to you, and you buy weapons from us (respectively, the money goes to the manufacturer, and the worker receives a salary) or deliver goods to us (fruits, etc.), or don’t interfere work for our companies (which pay more taxes due to increased profits). The benefit is not direct, but indirect. But the main thing is that the benefit is manifested now, and not in 10-20 years.
          1. AlexKissner
            AlexKissner 27 February 2018 21: 43
            +6
            or do not bother our companies

            Yes, that's just the company, that’s all - they belong to the oligarchs, are registered in offshore companies and they are able to optimize these same “taxes” so that they get what’s in the treasury with gulkin.
        2. A_L_F
          A_L_F 27 February 2018 22: 09
          +3
          Quote: Cossack 471
          Shoe covers and those 5 rubles a day for 2-3 need and for two weeks I go to the doctors .. and we are not Muscovites ....

          DO NOT LIE, if you don’t know what to write in Russia there’s nothing to do, sit on your Ukrainian sites,
          I now every day after an injury I go to the clinic for procedures and boot covers are free everywhere, a tube with shoe covers hangs in front of the office: you take it, put it on and go into the office, and this is in a provincial town
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 27 February 2018 23: 00
            +5
            Quote: A_L_F
            I now every day after an injury I go to the clinic for procedures and boot covers everywhere are free,

            Free only for procedures, sort of. He himself recently went into injury, no one brought me free shoe covers.
            1. woron333444
              woron333444 3 March 2018 19: 43
              0
              We have shoe covers at the entrance to the hospital for free.
          2. BecmepH
            BecmepH 28 February 2018 06: 01
            0
            Quote: A_L_F
            DO NOT LIE if you do not know

            In Perm, I went with my shoe covers, so it’s cheaper.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 3 March 2018 21: 29
              0
              But in general, I took it out of the trash and put it on.
          3. Cossack 471
            Cossack 471 28 February 2018 21: 37
            +2
            ALF I live in the center of the Rostov region. in the district clinic, shoe covers are sold in the wardrobe and cost 5 rubles. and in Volgodonsk at the MRTshka Medical Center, you pay 4000 for research and shoe covers for free and a one-time gown too. In Belaya Kalitva, my mother changed the lens in the eye clinic. so the shoe covers are issued by the machine. only there you need to insert 5 rubles. I'm already aged. but in a lie from childhood was not seen.
            1. A_L_F
              A_L_F 28 February 2018 22: 43
              +2
              Quote: Cossack 471
              In Belaya Kalitva, my mother changed the lens in the eye clinic. so the shoe covers are issued by the machine. only there you need to insert 5 rubles. I'm already aged. but in a lie from childhood was not seen.

              The last machine for the issuance of shoe covers I saw 5 years ago, now even a cloakroom worker even gives out visits to patients in a hospital shoe cover
      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 28 February 2018 05: 58
        0
        Quote: Usher
        Again about pensions, etc.

        Live to retirement, talk differently.
        1. woron333444
          woron333444 3 March 2018 19: 45
          0
          He lived to retire, three years in retirement. I live normally and do not cry. Even to work does not pull
  3. Loess
    Loess 27 February 2018 15: 25
    +7
    And was there a chance they would ever pay? And the construction of a nuclear power plant, if I am not mistaken, is always carried out by everyone on credit. These are jobs and technology development. And so, of course, I feel sorry for the money. By the way, the author could compare the figures under which rulers and how much we gave to whom and how the process of returning or writing off debts went ... It would be interesting from the point of view of analytics. And about royal debts too.
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 27 February 2018 17: 28
      +22
      Human civilization has come up with quite a few different ways out of this situation. Debt can be restructured, you can pay in kind, postpone payment until better times in the end ... Why immediately forgive?
      If you can’t give it back - borrow from others, give it back to the territories or just we can wait. Interest will run up by itself ... Why immediately forgive?
      1. Loess
        Loess 27 February 2018 18: 41
        +4
        Well, apparently due to the fact that this position is shared not only by you, Russia had to pay royal debts laughing hi
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 27 February 2018 21: 09
          +2
          Not all. Russia does not pay physicists for the nationalization of enterprises, and it is directly prescribed by agreements at the interstate level. As a result, physicists-heirs of creditors from their states do not receive support on this issue.
      2. your1970
        your1970 28 February 2018 11: 41
        +1
        Quote: forty-eighth
        Human civilization has come up with quite a few different ways out of this situation. Debt can be restructured, you can pay in kind, postpone payment until better times in the end ... Why immediately forgive?
        Can’t give it back - borrow from others, give territories or just we can wait. Interest will run up by itself ... Why immediately forgive?
        -This is especially like-did not try to think ???
        1) which ruler will just give his land ?? after all, after that they can overthrow him, people don’t like squandering lands ....
        2) which ruler will just take the land - well, for example, Angola has a piece of desert (without minerals / water, etc.)?
  4. lexx2038
    lexx2038 27 February 2018 15: 43
    +20
    We are a great power! Why trifle.
    By the way, who has extra thread? I need to darn holes on my elbows.
    1. Zefr
      Zefr 27 February 2018 18: 41
      +7
      Can you give it back later?
  5. Semen1972
    Semen1972 27 February 2018 15: 46
    +4
    To think that we give loans only for profit is pleasing to think that we are fighting in Syria only for the fight against bearded savages.
  6. Vard
    Vard 27 February 2018 15: 50
    +32
    I am glad that I live in the richest country ... which, in spite of everything ... debt forgiveness ... the export of capital abroad ... payment of other people's debts ... in trillions of green still exists ... and if to believe the media is even developing ... It’s fighting ... it’s building a nuclear power plant ... True, I have a pension of $ 200 ... but that’s nothing ... but the blacks in Africa are good ...
  7. seacap
    seacap 27 February 2018 16: 03
    +24
    As the non-brothers were already overwhelmed with loans and low prices and various discounts to their own detriment, they themselves almost paid to take it, it helped us a lot? The same applies to the rest of the environment, especially the Baltic states and the Pole, how many of them swelled and what ultimately ? Life does not teach anything, how much they thumped around the world before, but how did they themselves need help, where are they all “friends forever?” The same will happen in Asia, as Russians were cut there in the 20s, 40s and 90s - how Russian women and children were killed there, how they spat in the back at every opportunity, they will, no money from grazes. Our ours, a blood friend from Kazakhstan, quietly glanced, quietly, sent us far away and utterly ukrov, side-by-side there for lace panties., forgetting the debts and the fact that 2/3 of the lands there are Russian. And to us who what did you forgive or wrote off? As the vans were flawed, we remained simpletons and cripples, we’ll suck a paw and dream of a beautiful life, until we’ll hurt our brains once again, when it becomes painful and insulting, from inept means and lost opportunities, lost time.
  8. antivirus
    antivirus 27 February 2018 16: 33
    0
    from domestic prices, foreign trade prices were 3-4 times higher and modern loans are also not equal to 1 k1
    it may turn out that the delivery tariff was mainly hung on the cube, on the return flight something was loaded and the freight (?) paid off.
    An example is that the coots suffered from trains bypassing the Russian Federation (to Friendship), he returned empty back, and apparently the consignees nevertheless paid for the delivery to themselves. Need to watch all 100% paid?
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 February 2018 16: 36
    +15
    amid debt relief of more than one hundred and forty billion dollars
    Yes, they calculated - they cried. Sometimes “wise” economists try to explain to us that we would not get money anyway, and in this case political dividends are possible. Here are just some? The former "brothers" in the union consider us suckers and do not even try to hide it. "It's a shame you understand." ("Caucasian Captive").
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 27 February 2018 20: 01
      +9
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Former "brothers" in the union consider us as suckers

      They consider Russian "suckers" not because of money, captain, but because the Russian does not consider Russian a person and destroys his own country!
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 28 February 2018 06: 06
        +2
        Quote: Serg65
        They consider Russian "suckers" not because of money, captain, but because the Russian does not consider Russian a person and destroys his own country!

        Right
    2. Alber
      Alber 27 February 2018 20: 06
      +4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The former "brothers" in the union consider us suckers and do not even try to hide it.

      No comment ...
      but EVIL TAKES !!
  10. Usher
    Usher 27 February 2018 17: 00
    +10
    "Why is Moscow squandering people's money with such ease?" since when did the state budget become popular?
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 27 February 2018 17: 29
      +6
      Obviously, because the state budget is public money.
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 06: 07
      0
      Quote: Usher
      "Why is Moscow squandering people's money with such ease?" since when did the state budget become popular?

      The emperor decides what to do.
  11. Bypassed
    Bypassed 27 February 2018 17: 00
    +2
    Russia forgives debts, and the USA increases
  12. Bypassed
    Bypassed 27 February 2018 17: 01
    +32
    Russia forgives debts, and the USA increases
  13. samarin1969
    samarin1969 27 February 2018 17: 17
    +11
    Russia would not forgive, "RF" - forgives everyone .... "RF" pays from the budget for the corporate interests of private structures and political "Potemkin villages".
  14. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 27 February 2018 17: 22
    +10
    Russia pays. Pays, pays and pays again. And then forgives his debtors.

    This kindness also comes to us sideways. No money, take vegetables and fruits from Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan, and, at worst, meat from Mongolia
    1. Bumblebee_3
      Bumblebee_3 27 February 2018 19: 41
      0
      Bulrumeb Today, 17:22
      Do you propose to arrange a "surplus appraisal" for these countries? Only, I think, it’s more profitable for our traders to “sell” expensive goods in the form of jamon or ....
      1. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 28 February 2018 09: 24
        +2
        And here is the surplus appraisal)))? I know that people from the north of Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan have nowhere to put their products, Nurik wants to open the border, wants to - close. Well, as for cattle from Mongolia, even during the time of the union, they drove them to our meat plants from Mongolia under their own power. Stew by the way was cool
        1. Bumblebee_3
          Bumblebee_3 28 February 2018 11: 43
          +1
          Bulrumeb Today, 09:24
          Regarding the Mongolian stew, I agree with you 100%! But as for the fact that the residents of Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan have nothing to do with their products, I think that this is a miscalculation of our, Russian, officials or leaders. Are they unable to put pressure on Nurik, or do not want to? The funny thing is, if it were the personal money of officials - there would have been a completely different scenario, they would have returned it to the penny.
  15. Brigadier
    Brigadier 27 February 2018 17: 44
    +15
    Putin famously writes off the debts of those who owe us!
    And he’s doing the right thing, why should he want nothing, money is not his personal, money is Russian!
    A couple more - the three deductions will be enough, and then? And then - EVERYTHING! Arrived ...
    Everything will be as usual - someone writes off one, but EVERYTHING pays for it!
    And Putin’s “colleagues” - Nabiullina, Kudrin and others, will also make their contribution ...
    If this “SMART POLICY” cannot be stopped by Putin now, then it will be just too late, because the country will no longer have money ... And if there is no money, there will be no problems ...
    There will be dead silence ... like in a cemetery ...
    When choosing a new President, think about it ...
  16. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 27 February 2018 17: 44
    +4
    The USSR became the Russian Federation, but it is the same country and the same people. Moreover, we are the successors, respectively, debts to the USSR - this is not exotic at all. If I’m wrong, then why are the debts of the USSR that we are returning not exotic?
  17. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 27 February 2018 17: 46
    +2
    99 of all loans are political bribes. and back this money is not expected.
  18. serriy
    serriy 27 February 2018 18: 10
    +6
    Respect to the author. I demand the continuation of the topic! good
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 27 February 2018 18: 17
    +3
    clearly vicious policy
  20. intuzazist
    intuzazist 27 February 2018 18: 34
    +10
    The agreement provided for Uzbekistan’s refusal to claim a stake in the Diamond Fund of the former USSR, which he himself estimated at $ 1-2 billion.
    ---------------------
    ?????????????
    What a fright ???? !!!! Well, skullcaps took part in the payment of Soviet debts or could not give juices and dried fruits !!!! But about trips to Cuba, golden words ......................
  21. flicker
    flicker 27 February 2018 18: 53
    +3
    Once at a time it is not necessary, but sometimes it is necessary to forgive debts.
    1. Alber
      Alber 27 February 2018 20: 14
      +9
      Quote: flicker
      Once at a time it is not necessary, but sometimes it is necessary to forgive debts.

      First you have to pay off debts to your people
      Gazprom is the property of Russia ...
      5 plus rubles per cubic meter to the population! Has the power not reached out?
      But for such grandmothers, as here in the photo above, with a ruined stove which the poor stove drowns with firewood in the 21st century, our old men don’t need to bring this gas into the house at the expense of Gazprom? didn't they deserve it?
  22. RUSLAN
    RUSLAN 27 February 2018 18: 59
    +8
    The powers that be are completely overwhelmed ... At a national expense, not only are they gushing, they also squander state money. Do you like to forgive debts, borrow and goodbye to your health, only your own people, half the country lives below the poverty line, and these bastards they think political dividends ... It’s necessary to put such forgivers to the wall!
  23. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 27 February 2018 19: 00
    +8
    And the answer is very simple: whoever writes off debts, he has this. After all, it’s easier to pay uncle 10 million dollars than 8 billion. And uncle is good, and debtors! good
  24. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 27 February 2018 19: 43
    +4
    Only grandmothers see everything around. Only bucks in their eyes, but they don’t see anything. They will see the word million, and begin to whine, it would be better if they gave it to people. With what fright? What's the point? At the pensioner's cottage in the cellar to place a missile system? Through a toilet of some sort of granny to hold a pipeline with oil? In the bath, put a corvette with calibers? Or disguise a platoon of special forces under the bed? To introduce your representative into the Ivanov family council? Or will he enlist the support of the head of a family to search for and obtain manure in his village barn? For each of these listed countries, to whom we kind of "forgiven" the debts, you can easily dig on the Internet for what we did it. And this is just what is in the public domain. And the rest is not your mind to know. Nobody has ever forgives nothing. It is such an investment in diplomatic, political, military or economic projects, so to speak. Like children, everything is straightforward.
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 06: 16
      +4
      Quote: Xscorpion
      Like children, everything is straight.

      This is such an investment in diplomatic, political, military or economic projects, so to speak.
      The primerchik would at least be brought. And then some letters. Or is it not our mind thing? For these words, you can hide hto hosh. Do not find? I can’t think of anything that can be obtained from poor countries, which requires secrecy. And you?
  25. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 27 February 2018 19: 56
    +6
    Quote: LASVEGAS
    Only Kyrgyzstan does not extend the contract with us :)
    "Threw into the abyss" from the movie "Prisoner of the Caucasus"


    They extended it at 17 meters. For 15 years, with an extension every 5 years. Plus amers were put out from there, without the possibility of returning them or their allies. Well, of course, the rent of some objects is deducted from the debt. And part of the leased objects was completely free. so for one object in Issyk-Kul, 5 lyamov bucks should pay. For 20 years, 100 lyamov. For one object. There are questions why debts are written off? This is the standard practice of the Americans. To lend, and deploy their troops on account of debt. And they are in dozens of countries because of debts that are periodically written off. And we are worse than them?
  26. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 27 February 2018 20: 02
    +8
    Only for a small share, as Ulyukaev. It's nice to be generous at someone else's expense. It may come in handy in the future. For Gorbi, the whole of Europe is a home. He also forgave quite a few.
  27. Ben Gunn
    Ben Gunn 27 February 2018 20: 17
    +8
    Unfortunately, it must be recognized that our foreign policy, since 1991, has been an almost uninterrupted period of shame and humiliation, carefully and carefully continued by our leadership. Whoever says anything, and in international relations the right of the strong has always dominated, and only the strong enjoy authority. And these endless goodbyes of debts, poorly covering the simple inability to demand and achieve their return, automatically reduce the state to the level of a street sucker. That’s why all sorts of nonsense allow themselves, like the Baltic states and other unfinished countries, so talk with us. A deep bow to our Foreign Ministry.
  28. Igor Anatolievich
    Igor Anatolievich 27 February 2018 20: 34
    +7
    The whole recent history due to the RSFSR where people lived more than modestly-supported
    the welfare of the Union republics and as soon as the situation worsened there armed conflicts flared up. It seems that the government sits in the Kremlin, but not in Russia. Or the public wealth goes anywhere. But only the urgent needs of its own citizens
  29. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 27 February 2018 20: 42
    +5
    In principle, the policy of writing off government debt on state loans is vicious. But there is a reality! Cuba owed us more for the Soviet T-34-85 period of the Second World War. With us, they would have rotted away in storage for these 50 years, and a mountain that had blocked the current trade was pledged for the delayed debt. Africa is about the same. Our henchmen like Castro took our loans, and maintaining them is beneficial to us politically and economically. They did not let our loans go to the left, and partially paid back with the supplies we needed, such as sugar, potatoes, etc. But the main thing is that the USA opposed, which is costly. It was logical to write off such debts. Moreover, they wouldn’t be returned anyway - they don’t have any urine for it. The story is the same with Afghanistan - we armed him, because we needed it. In short - politics needs to be adjusted, but not condemned amateurishly or intentionally provocatively. To conquer markets and keep them open to yourself is the business of professionals. We are not like that.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 27 February 2018 21: 37
      +12
      Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
      - this is the business of professionals.

      Write off 140 lard just professionals can not do. Super professionals are needed here. Such as Vladimir Vladimirovich. Does anyone still doubt the genius of Mr. Putin?
    2. dauria
      dauria 27 February 2018 23: 11
      +5
      but do not condemn amateurishly or intentionally provocatively. To conquer markets and keep them open to yourself is the business of professionals. We are not like that.


      Clear, clear .. Yes, there is, for sure. Do not forget to repeat the same thing when the retirement age increases (or prices). There are pros, not for us to judge them.
    3. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 06: 23
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
      To conquer markets and keep them open to yourself is the business of professionals.

      Ukraine is a great example. Yes?
  30. fa811147
    fa811147 27 February 2018 20: 47
    +9
    .Take an example from China, there is a peaceful conquest and peaceful seizure of land on outstanding loans. A loan is given at good interest rates, with a pledge in the form of a part of the state’s territory, (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Bangladesh, etc.). In case of delay or non-payment, the territory of China in various parts of the world quietly grows. Everyone is happy. China has no friends. Russia also quietly rafts pieces of territory to the left.
  31. skobars
    skobars 27 February 2018 21: 12
    +1
    Let the territories be given free of charge for bases or sanatoriums.
  32. fif21
    fif21 27 February 2018 21: 12
    +3
    Learn, study and study! Why not? The USA gives a loan to any country for the purchase of goods made in USA and for decades they have been waiting for payment under Lend-Lease. The ban on writing off debts should be formalized by law. hi
  33. Dimy4
    Dimy4 27 February 2018 21: 20
    +7
    Debt the average Russian to the state, well, for example, 10 thousand rubles. - left without pants, apartments, cars, etc.
  34. Ivan58
    Ivan58 27 February 2018 22: 02
    +6
    It is easy to be generous at the expense of others. For ours with you. And with us you can tear: a tax maneuver, excise taxes on gasoline, overhaul at home, common house needs, Plato, toll roads, etc., etc.
  35. VladGashek
    VladGashek 27 February 2018 22: 07
    +10
    Forgiving loans to “fraternal” countries is disrespectful to one’s own citizens. Rather, this act hides the selfish image calculation of the ruling elite in the country. When will we, the citizens of our "free fatherland" call the rulers to account, demand the answer: "where is the money, Zin?"
  36. Pushkar
    Pushkar 27 February 2018 22: 12
    +8
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: Bulrumeb
    last year was there

    Where were you and who were you talking to ???

    I was in Bishkek last year. A kilowatt of electricity then cost 70 kopecks, we cost 4 rubles. Moreover, their parliament (the Jogorku Kenesh) at that time was buzzing about a single state language, not Russian, of course.
    1. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 28 February 2018 12: 15
      0
      and I was there, but only blow them in the eye, all God's dew. Vova is right and no ...
  37. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 27 February 2018 22: 13
    +2
    Yeah. And to write off his own, as the same Mironov suggested for the sake of a word - the toad strangles. Well, they will go broke right away, and the peasant will relax ...
    1. mari.inet
      mari.inet 28 February 2018 06: 21
      +2
      Two months ago, they spoke and repeated to the whole country that Putin signed a decree on writing off all tax debts to Russians. Have you missed your ears?
      1. Ivan Tucha
        Ivan Tucha 28 February 2018 12: 18
        0
        Those for whom the statute of limitations has expired. Those. those that are no longer required by law. Do not read?
        We are talking about credit debt.
  38. Old26
    Old26 27 February 2018 22: 49
    +6
    Quote: Pax tecum
    According to RBC, Russia writes off huge debts to the CIS countries and other countries. So, in 2016. Putin V.V. wrote off debt to Uzbekistan in the amount of $ 865 million. Prior to this, debts were written off:
    - Mongolia - $ 170 million; Afghanistan - $ 12 billion; Libya - $ 4,5 billion
    - Kyrgyzstan - in stages with 2013. written off: $ 188,9 million, $ 60 million, soon another $ 240,0 million will be written off

    Yes nifiga with Russia does not happen. Well, he will write off a hundred or two billion dollars to debtors, who then will not even care about you. Russia will not fall apart. We’ll give it, then write it off.

    But as one “clever man” said in the zombie man, even half of the debts cannot be written off from the government to the population, not to mention the complete cancellation. For it will bring down the entire financial system of the country ....
  39. moreanda
    moreanda 28 February 2018 00: 46
    +5
    Stop feeding all these COV! We give them money - and they give us EXPLOSIONS in the subway, buses, etc.
    Let them return at least minerals, at least sugar, electricity and something else.
    RUSSIAN money - only for RUSSIA!
    And "kind" let them give out of YOUR pocket.
    A. Morev
  40. Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 28 February 2018 02: 41
    +8
    Quote: A_L_F
    Quote: Cossack 471
    Shoe covers and those 5 rubles a day for 2-3 need and for two weeks I go to the doctors .. and we are not Muscovites ....

    DO NOT LIE, if you don’t know what to write in Russia there’s nothing to do, sit on your Ukrainian sites,
    I now every day after an injury I go to the clinic for procedures and boot covers are free everywhere, a tube with shoe covers hangs in front of the office: you take it, put it on and go into the office, and this is in a provincial town

    Kemerovo region. the city of Mariinsk. shoe covers 5 rubles in any hospital or clinic.
  41. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 28 February 2018 03: 13
    +4
    The article did not answer the question: why and why. Why and why are state money squandered and squandered? What are the fools in the Kremlin or something?
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 06: 28
      +3
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      What are the fools in the Kremlin or something?

      More and more often this question pops up in my head ...
  42. zyzx
    zyzx 28 February 2018 04: 35
    +5
    The question now is different, WHY ARE WE DISTRIBUTING NEW LOANS? Moreover, part of future enemies.
  43. Persian
    Persian 28 February 2018 04: 51
    +2
    Russia, a generous soul!
  44. mari.inet
    mari.inet 28 February 2018 06: 18
    +4
    Oh, how strangers millions and billions have blinded the author. Aliens! And the fact that this money is state money does not automatically transfer it to the author’s pocket.
    The fact that Russia can forgive debts is not a vice, but generosity. For example, I also lend only if I say goodbye to this money forever. If they don’t return, it means they won’t return it, but I’ll help the person. But in the case of government debts, some terms of the deal are likely to be negotiated, some benefits for Russia. Putin is smart and knows what he’s doing, but doesn’t put his pluses on display.
    And the ostentatious "righteous anger" of the author does not add honor to him. Doros would first be up to the president, then he would undertake to talk about "people's money."
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 28 February 2018 15: 34
      +2
      Quote: mari.inet
      For example, I also lend only if I say goodbye to this money forever. If they don’t return, it means they won’t return it, but I’ll help the person.

      I have long dreamed of meeting a person like you. Could you say goodbye to a person with at least 70-80 thousand rubles at a time, maximum 200? Extremely difficult situation, you know ...
  45. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 28 February 2018 07: 31
    +2
    Not so simple, the author of the article is hardly in the subject. And of course, he undertakes to judge without knowing what really stands "for the forgiveness of loans." We live in an age of capitalism and I think that as he says now, the wind doesn’t throw anything away.
  46. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 28 February 2018 07: 33
    +2
    Quote: serriy
    Respect to the author. I demand the continuation of the topic! good

    the topic is garbage and the author argues as a layman. Because it is hardly in the subject of what is “behind the forgiveness of loans,” in the age of capitalism, there is nothing that is not simply forgiven. It’s time to know about it.
  47. Brigadier
    Brigadier 28 February 2018 09: 00
    +2
    As Dimon once said there (this is the one that is now under Vovan): "There is no money, but you hold on ..." belay fool wassat angry No.
  48. Jarilo
    Jarilo 28 February 2018 09: 25
    +3
    Forgiveness for kickbacks, for kickbacks. Through rotten power. Need to change!
  49. Gennady Voloshin
    Gennady Voloshin 28 February 2018 09: 37
    +1
    Maybe Russia is not "forgiving" debts for free? Such generosity is contrary to common sense, does not fit in the head.
    Suppose we have forgiven a debt to an African state, but in return private individuals close to the authorities can "ask" for a share of the profit in the extraction of diamonds, uranium, but what else ...
    Maybe this is an additional way of enriching our elite. Well, why not? We will never learn much, alas.
    1. Jarilo
      Jarilo 28 February 2018 10: 12
      +3
      Yes, that's how it is. We also sell a lot of things at low prices to foreign intermediary firms owned by our oligarchs, and then they resell it at times more expensive. Therefore, the state "has no money, but you hold on." RAO UES of Chubais privatized so that, as a result, electricity prices increased at times, although in all textbooks it is written that market reforms lead to lower prices. Only there is no market there, since he divided it vertically, not horizontally, and imposed intermediaries who placed an additional burden on all of us. Chubais separated the networks from the generation, so who is he after that? And so in everything - prices are only rising as a result of "market" reforms.
  50. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 28 February 2018 09: 58
    +2
    Quote: Vard
    I am glad that I live in the richest country ... which, in spite of everything ... debt forgiveness ... the export of capital abroad ... payment of other people's debts ... in trillions of green still exists ... and if to believe the media is even developing ... It’s fighting ... it’s building a nuclear power plant ... True, I have a pension of $ 200 ... but that’s nothing ... but the blacks in Africa are good ...


    Blacks in Africa do not have a pension of $ 200. They don’t have at all, pensions - brother! And for these pensions, our great-grandfathers did the Revolution, fought almost with the whole world. And my father, for example, who had a hand in the 60-70s, health and 20 thousand hours of flying time for the future export-raw material power of the USSR-Russia, was seriously considering whether he should transfer the pension from the Republic of Belarus to Russia to a native of the Russian SSR, because the difference in his profession and experience. almost threefold .. Yes late already, life at sunset ..

    I mean, we still have to fight even for the preservation of current social benefits, what can we say about a decent existence and a glance towards the "civilized"