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Israeli Air Force Command told why the F-16 was shot down

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The Israeli media, citing the Ministry of Defense, publish materials describing the results of the investigation of the incident with the F-16 Israeli Air Force, shot down by air defense systems of the Syrian Arab Republic. The Israeli command said that the Israeli Air Force fighter was shot down by a ground-to-air missile due to a "professional crew error."


It is noted that the F-16 crew of the Israeli Air Force made a mistake while performing the task set by the command, “not protecting themselves properly and focusing exclusively on solving the combat task”.

Israeli Air Force Command told why the F-16 was shot down


It was also added that the pilot was promptly notified from the ground that rocket launches had been made on the plane.

From the material:
The pilot and the navigator managed to carry out bailouts on their territory, but before that their actions did not comply with the standard instructions during the shelling.


This is an incident from February 10 of the current year. An Israeli plane bombarded Syrian territory and was shot down by an air defense system of the SAR. Both pilots ejected. One was taken to hospital in serious condition. Details of its current state are not reported.
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  1. Dmitry Belovetsky
    Dmitry Belovetsky 26 February 2018 05: 57
    +12
    They lie and do not blink an eye.
    And what did not mention the interests of Israel in Iran?
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 26 February 2018 05: 59
      +2
      Maybe with an eye belay ? The main thing is that we know the truth! !!
      1. Dmitry Belovetsky
        Dmitry Belovetsky 26 February 2018 06: 06
        +5
        The problem is the creation of Iranian proxies in Syria, which at any time can turn their weapons against Israel in case Tel Aviv behaves unpredictably.
      2. Hanokem
        Hanokem 26 February 2018 10: 30
        +4
        The truth is that after half of the Syrian air defense was destroyed in one retaliatory strike, no one else tries to shoot at our planes. The hunt is gone.
        1. Separ
          Separ 26 February 2018 11: 12
          +12
          Yes, flying over Syria at your aircraft, the hunt also disappeared. wassat
          1. Scalpel
            Scalpel 26 February 2018 11: 54
            0
            Why? They continue to fly.
            1. Genry
              Genry 26 February 2018 14: 14
              +2
              Quote: Scalpel
              They continue to fly.

              Only where you can’t shoot at them.
        2. hrych
          hrych 26 February 2018 14: 52
          +3
          Quote: Hanokem
          in one retaliatory strike, half of Syrian air defense was destroyed

          In words wassat
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 26 February 2018 17: 15
            +4
            In the last issue, Arguments of the Week wrote that half didn’t smell close. The censorship of Israel a week after the incident lifted the ban on publishing information. "Three Syrian air defense systems" with a dubious result were attacked by the Israeli Air Force. They were “scared” that the Russian Federation would deliver more modern air defense systems that could cover the entire airspace of the country.
            In Tel Aviv, had to close the airport during the incident. The danger lies in the fact that next time civilian sides can be hooked - I think the country's leadership understands this and will continue to be more careful with these bombings.
            Another point. Their "iron dome" is capable of intercepting air defense missiles or not - is Israel so proud of them !? hi
            1. hrych
              hrych 26 February 2018 17: 52
              +3
              Quote: Kasym
              Their "iron dome" is capable of intercepting air defense missiles or not - is Israel so proud of them !?

              No, their range does not overlap
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 26 February 2018 18: 03
                +2
                But what about the American Patriots? 6 batteries. Previously, even the ballistic could intercept. For example, 27.01.91/5/XNUMX. XNUMX rockets shot down. Once the pilots were warned, that means they saw them according to the radar - why didn’t they intercept ?! It’s strange somehow. hi
            2. just exp
              just exp 27 February 2018 15: 40
              +1
              Well, it used to be like a SUR-200 shot down.
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      1. Dmitry Belovetsky
        Dmitry Belovetsky 26 February 2018 06: 29
        +4
        Each action must be punished, and in the most severe way.
    3. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 27 February 2018 08: 37
      +2
      The correct answer is:
      The plane was shot down because a missile hit it.
      And do not drive hutspu to the crew.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 26 February 2018 05: 58
    +18
    Because it was shot down because a rocket hit the plane! Everything else is from the evil one, and it makes no sense!
    1. Dmitry Belovetsky
      Dmitry Belovetsky 26 February 2018 06: 16
      +8
      Israel does not officially participate in the Syrian conflict.
      However, it would be naive to speak of real neutrality.
      As a neighboring state, Israel regularly intervenes in the course of events.
      The situation began to worsen when Iran and the pro-Iranian Hezbollah from Lebanon came to the aid of Syria.
      Then the Israeli Ministry of Defense directly stated that they would do anything, but would not allow Tehran, which considers Israel to be its "number one enemy" (and vice versa), gain a foothold near the Israeli borders.
      1. AlexVas44
        AlexVas44 26 February 2018 07: 49
        +6
        Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
        As a neighboring state, Israel regularly intervenes in the course of events.

        What, is there such a right :?
        1. Professor
          Professor 26 February 2018 08: 03
          +4
          Quote: AlexVas44
          What, is there such a right :?

          Article 51 of the UN Charter, Carl.
          1. BIP PS FSB RF
            BIP PS FSB RF 26 February 2018 09: 07
            +5
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: AlexVas44
            What, is there such a right :?

            Article 51 of the UN Charter, Carl.

            Please clarify who attacked whom and that Israel began to carry out air raids on Syrian territory?
            Chapter VII. Actions regarding threats to peace, violations of peace and acts of aggression

            Article 51.

            This Charter does not in any way affect the inalienable right to individual or collective self-defense if there is an armed attack on a Member of the Organization, as long as the Security Council is not an example of the measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. The measures taken by the Members of the Organization in the exercise of this right to self-defense shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and in no way shall affect the powers and responsibilities of the Security Council, in accordance with this Charter, with respect to the enterprise at any time of such actions as it considers necessary maintaining or restoring international peace and security.
            1. Professor
              Professor 26 February 2018 09: 21
              +6
              Quote: BIP PS FSB RF
              Please clarify who attacked whom and that Israel began to carry out air raids on Syrian territory?

              Syria attacked Israel, CEP. For the first time in 1948. Then she constantly bombarded our northern territories. The attacks intensified during the 1964-1966 period. Syria began to divert the waters of the Jordan River (Casus belli). Syria used tanks, aircraft. Syria supported the terrorists attacking our citizens. Syria again attacked Israel in the 1973-year, having received before it the teeth in the 1967-m. And so on. Israel has never attacked Syria first. Moreover, we have repeatedly proposed peace to Syria under the formula "peace in exchange for territory." Assad demanded that he first return the territory to him, and only then start negotiations. (I wonder what? fool )
              And this February, the Syrian drone encroached on our sovereignty and was shot down in the Jordan Valley. Israel again filed a complaint with the UN and took advantage of the right to self-defense.
              1. okko077
                okko077 26 February 2018 09: 52
                +16
                Poor, defenseless Israel !!! Tears come right straight ... He filed a complaint to the UN, though he himself never complied with these decisions of the UN, didn’t let him create a neighboring state, donated foreign territories to himself and therefore the Arabs “dislike” him, and he cannot understand why, and this is called protection. Moishe alone is worth a thousand Arabs, and dream of peace further ....
                1. Professor
                  Professor 26 February 2018 10: 09
                  +6
                  Quote: okko077
                  Poor, defenseless Israel !!! Tears come right straight ... He filed a complaint to the UN, though he himself never complied with these decisions of the UN, didn’t let him create a neighboring state, donated foreign territories to himself and therefore the Arabs “dislike” him, and he cannot understand why, and this is called protection. Moishe alone is worth a thousand Arabs, and dream of peace further ....

                  How pleasant it is to communicate with "knowledgeable" people with brains not washed by propaganda. wassat

                  Israel fulfills its part of the resolutions, but ... the Arabs do not even think of fulfilling even a small part of their obligations. The whole process is stopped and of course Israel is to blame. Where was the Arab state in the territory of mandated Palestine in the year 1948, and in the year 1964? Is Israel to blame?

                  Israel during the 1964-1967 years. filed 34 (thirty-four, Karl) complaints of aggression by Syria. The UN, led by permanent members of the Security Council, turned out to be impotent and expressed concern.

                  It is the Arabs who value their thousandth share of the Jewish soldier. So Gilad Shalit was exchanged for 1027 by the Philistines, and in May of 1985, one Israeli soldier Hezi Shay and two tzadalniks were exchanged for 1150 of Arabs. This is our exchange rate. fellow
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 26 February 2018 14: 20
                    +5
                    Quote: Professor
                    Israel during the 1964-1967 years. filed 34 (thirty-four, Karl) complaints of aggression by Syria. The UN, led by permanent members of the Security Council, turned out to be impotent and expressed concern.

                    So when will Israel leave the Golan Heights? Or do you think that the UN owes you, but you should not do anything to it?
              2. BIP PS FSB RF
                BIP PS FSB RF 27 February 2018 10: 21
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Quote: BIP PS FSB RF
                Please clarify who attacked whom and that Israel began to carry out air raids on Syrian territory?

                Syria attacked Israel, CEP. For the first time in 1948. Then she constantly bombarded our northern territories. The attacks intensified during the 1964-1966 period. Syria began to divert the waters of the Jordan River (Casus belli). Syria used tanks, aircraft. Syria supported the terrorists attacking our citizens. Syria again attacked Israel in the 1973-year, having received before it the teeth in the 1967-m. And so on. Israel has never attacked Syria first. Moreover, we have repeatedly proposed peace to Syria under the formula "peace in exchange for territory." Assad demanded that he first return the territory to him, and only then start negotiations. (I wonder what? fool )
                And this February, the Syrian drone encroached on our sovereignty and was shot down in the Jordan Valley. Israel again filed a complaint with the UN and took advantage of the right to self-defense.

                The Syrian drone (formerly Iranian) crossed the border and was shot down! He did not attack, but crossed the border! For what was shot down!
                AND ATTENTION! For this, the Israeli Air Force carried out an air raid on Syrian territory!
                Is everything ok with logic?
                1. Professor
                  Professor 27 February 2018 10: 47
                  +4
                  Quote: BIP PS FSB RF
                  The Syrian drone (formerly Iranian) crossed the border and was shot down! He did not attack, but crossed the border! For what was shot down!
                  AND ATTENTION! For this, the Israeli Air Force carried out an air raid on Syrian territory!
                  Is everything ok with logic?

                  Not only with logic, but also with international law, everything is fine. The Syrian drone of Iranian manufacture violated the sovereignty of our country. The drone and its control point were destroyed. No more drones entered our sovereign airspace.
                  1. BIP PS FSB RF
                    BIP PS FSB RF 27 February 2018 14: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Professor
                    Quote: BIP PS FSB RF
                    The Syrian drone (formerly Iranian) crossed the border and was shot down! He did not attack, but crossed the border! For what was shot down!
                    AND ATTENTION! For this, the Israeli Air Force carried out an air raid on Syrian territory!
                    Is everything ok with logic?

                    Not only with logic, but also with international law, everything is fine. The Syrian drone of Iranian manufacture violated the sovereignty of our country. Drone and him control room were destroyed. No more drones entered our sovereign airspace.

                    They hit the air defense points, not one at a time. International law provides an opportunity to defend, but not to attack. What Israel did was a frank attack, for which they paid for with a shot down plane, and recently also a second one.
                    But you, as "girls", hiding behind the US, build round eyes and say that everything is fine, there was nothing. At the same time, I do not dispute the history of the expansion of Israel, but what is happening now does not honor you as a state.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 27 February 2018 15: 12
                      +5
                      Quote: BIP PS FSB RF
                      They hit the air defense points, not one at a time. International law provides an opportunity to defend, but not to attack. What Israel did was a frank attack, for which they paid for with a shot down plane, and recently also a second one.

                      You have lost the chronology of events. Syria encroached on the sovereignty of Israel at the expense of the drone. Israel shot down a drone and destroyed a drone control point. Then Syria shot down a plane in our airspace. Further, Israel attacked the air defense base.

                      Did the Syrians tell you about the second plane? wink

                      Quote: BIP PS FSB RF
                      But you, as "girls", hiding behind the US, build round eyes and say that everything is fine, there was nothing. At the same time, I do not dispute the history of the expansion of Israel, but what is happening now does not honor you as a state.

                      The task of the state is to protect its citizens, and not an expression of concern on the left and on the right. Israel protects its citizens without regard to Russia, the United States or anyone else. The next time, Israel again hits an alien drone encroaching on our sovereignty and again gives on the nose those who sent this drone. Everyone who does not like this Israeli behavior may demand that those who encroach on our sovereignty no longer do this. And then Israel will not bomb anyone. Such a formula. hi
              3. vasya.pupkin
                vasya.pupkin 27 February 2018 11: 39
                +1
                Finally, you let it slip and admitted that all the problems were due to WATER / Casus belli /. Since the Jews took away 90% of drinking water from Syria, they vigilantly watched that no one approached the "holy water", even drones .
                Now the vast territory of Syria is in a drought and the God-chosen "-to chocolate."
                1. Professor
                  Professor 27 February 2018 13: 18
                  +5
                  Quote: vasya.pupkin
                  Finally, you let it slip and admitted that all the problems were due to WATER / Casus belli /. Since the Jews took away 90% of drinking water from Syria, they vigilantly watched that no one approached the "holy water", even drones .
                  Now the vast territory of Syria is in a drought and the God-chosen "-to chocolate."

                  90% drinking water? You are a prankster however or deliberately lying. By the way, how did the Syrians deal “without water” right from the 1967 year? wink And yet, how much water is there (and generally where does it come from) if Israel has not used water from the Golan (or whatever it is in Arabic) for the past few years and has other sources?
                2. A. Privalov
                  A. Privalov 27 February 2018 15: 10
                  +5
                  Quote: vasya.pupkin
                  Finally, you let it slip and admitted that all the problems were due to WATER / Casus belli /. Since the Jews took away 90% of drinking water from Syria, they vigilantly watched that no one approached the "holy water", even drones .
                  Now the vast territory of Syria is in a drought and the God-chosen "-to chocolate."

                  How God-chosen - to the God-bearer: if you are not lazy, take a look at the map and make sure that from the Golan Heights to the Sriya River DO NOT. So nature ordered that the Golan originate from the Jordan and its tributary, Yarmouk, which feed Lake Galilee (the Sea of ​​Galilee), which supplies water to Israel. Accordingly, your allegations that "the Jews took 90% of drinking water from Syria" - elementary lies and empty chatter. Syria’s attempt to divert the waters of these rivers, of course, was Casus belli in those years. 50 years ago, this could still be called the cause. Apparently you are not aware that today, Israel at 100% provides itself with fresh water. We have well-developed desalination of sea water for domestic use and wastewater treatment for agriculture + its economical use for irrigation - drip irrigation. We supply fresh water to Jordan, in addition to the 50 million cubic meters of water per year that are included in the peace treaty. Moreover, the Sea of ​​Galilee, the very "Sea of ​​Galilee", which, according to the dry land, they say, was walked by Jesus Christ, will now fill the Sea of ​​Galilee with excess water. hi
          2. Varna
            Varna 26 February 2018 21: 48
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: AlexVas44
            What, is there such a right :?

            Article 51 of the UN Charter, Carl.

            Well then, Iran has the same right))). For the first time, Israel and Iran are absolutely equal))).
            Both of them can fly to Leningrad, that is, to Syria. They both can))). (And let each other go on).
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 26 February 2018 09: 10
        +4
        Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
        As a neighboring state, Israel regularly intervenes in the course of events.

        What kind of "rights" are these? Where and by whom are they registered? Israel? Is that all?
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 26 February 2018 17: 25
          +3
          Professor - CEP, we must remember how much Europe attacked Russia. And what, in every incident with reconnaissance aircraft with transponders turned off, do you need to wave and extinguish all nearby NATO airbases with a "cudgel"? So the analogy is inappropriate. hi
  3. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 26 February 2018 05: 58
    +14
    Now you can talk and sing whatever you want. They thought that you could shoot like Lebanon and Palestine with impunity. That's where you got a long rocket in the backside :) :) :).
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 26 February 2018 06: 03
      +9
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Now you can talk and sing whatever you want. They thought that you could shoot like Lebanon and Palestine with impunity. That's where you got a long rocket in the backside :) :) :).

      About getting in the back of something a long sore subject, no? ;)
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 26 February 2018 06: 10
        +14
        Only for Israel. And it really was big and long. Still Soviet-made. For five rubles !!!!!!!!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 February 2018 06: 29
          +4
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          Only for Israel. And it really was big and long. Still Soviet-made. For five rubles !!!!!!!!

          For Israel, this is not a sore point, the pilots are alive and returned to duty, in addition, with a direct hit of the S-200 there would be no one to eject)))
          You just keep in mind that not only Israeli planes are at risk there, firstly, find out about the attitude of Russian specialists there to the Syrian allies, if possible, and secondly, and not rejoice at Israel’s failures in the third - today it is the only developed country that does not joined the sanctions against the Russian Federation, while maintaining visa-free and good personal relations between leaders.
          1. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 26 February 2018 06: 39
            +23
            Then why are you hooked? Would you pass by if you weren’t sick? And what sanctions can you surprise us with? We have minimal trade with Israel, we don’t have common borders. Will flights of tourists from Moscow be canceled? So I wanted to. He already left. About Israel You can say the song Vysotsky. And not a friend and not an enemy, but .......!
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 26 February 2018 07: 03
              +3
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              Then why are you hooked? Would you pass by if you weren’t sick? And what sanctions can you surprise us with? We have minimal trade with Israel, we don’t have common borders. Will flights of tourists from Moscow be canceled? So I wanted to. He already left. About Israel You can say the song Vysotsky. And not a friend and not an enemy, but .......!

              Why he stuck, he wrote above, it’s not the trade here that matters, but the possibility of getting around sanctions through Israel, which many Russian legal entities and individuals do. Flights nobody anywhere, incl. New York and London, has not been canceled, and for you and your friend or enemy you personally have a very hostile attitude towards Israel.
              1. Mar.Tirah
                Mar.Tirah 26 February 2018 07: 48
                +17
                Erroneous opinion: I was hostile in the service in Soviet times, when Israel carried out the will of its master overseas. Now it’s like Vysotsky. However, Israel has the same attitude towards Russia, so do not mislead people. We don’t and don’t there may be friendships with US allies, only temporary interests. And Putin knows this, and Netanyahu!
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 26 February 2018 08: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: Mar. Tira
                  Erroneous opinion: I was hostile in the service in Soviet times, when Israel carried out the will of its master overseas. Now it’s like Vysotsky. However, Israel has the same attitude towards Russia, so do not mislead people. We don’t and don’t there may be friendships with US allies, only temporary interests. And Putin knows this, and Netanyahu!

                  ))))
                  It is clearly said about the owners - given that the elections in the States are sponsored by Jews, who are the richest ethnic group there. About the fulfillment of the will of the States of Israel - respectively)))))
                  About Israel’s attitude towards Russia - respectful for a number of reasons, but, by and large, they trust the States much more - this has historically been the case.
                  Natanyahu and Putin sympathize with each other.
                  In general, the Israelis do not care at all - their problems are higher than the roof.
                  1. Mar.Tirah
                    Mar.Tirah 26 February 2018 08: 17
                    +4
                    I agree. Especially if you look for them yourself, and then you are surprised that this Arab drove to a stop with the girls as military personnel ??????? Do you see Russia living too quietly? I know some of those who left, they say that we would not go now. then in the 90s it was too hard for old Jews to live in Russia. That's about sponsorship, it's an old joke. The Saudis invest more. God forbid the democrats read, Trump is another dose of impeachment.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 26 February 2018 09: 04
                      +1
                      Quote: Mar. Tira
                      I agree. Especially if you look for them yourself, and then you are surprised that this Arab drove to a stop with the girls as military personnel ??????? Do you see Russia living too quietly? I know some of those who left, they say that we would not go now. then in the 90s it was too hard for old Jews to live in Russia. That's about sponsorship, it's an old joke. The Saudis invest more. God forbid the democrats read, Trump is another dose of impeachment.

                      Of course, we are looking for the problems themselves - the state itself was bunged by the UN decision)))
                      What Pts liked the neighbors, especially the Syrians who adore Hitler.
                      Yes, the Saudis are investing - the Saudi Saban Clintonshu sponsored, Saudi Edelson Trump. The first is from the Saudi city of Tel Aviv, the second is generally a purebred Sheikh))))
                  2. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 26 February 2018 09: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Natanyahu and Putin sympathize with each other.

                    And which of them informed you about this? Or both confessed? Under your torture.
                  3. Dym71
                    Dym71 26 February 2018 09: 35
                    +4
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    In general, the Israelis do not care at all - their problems are higher than the roof.

                    It can be seen, it’s worth only going to the Russian-speaking Jewish site, so there every second commentator shits in the direction of the Russians! am
                  4. Varna
                    Varna 26 February 2018 21: 51
                    0
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Quote: Mar. Tira
                    Erroneous opinion: I was hostile in the service in Soviet times, when Israel carried out the will of its master overseas. Now it’s like Vysotsky. However, Israel has the same attitude towards Russia, so do not mislead people. We don’t and don’t there may be friendships with US allies, only temporary interests. And Putin knows this, and Netanyahu!

                    ))))
                    It is clearly said about the owners - given that the elections in the States are sponsored by Jews, who are the richest ethnic group there. About the fulfillment of the will of the States of Israel - respectively)))))
                    About Israel’s attitude towards Russia - respectful for a number of reasons, but, by and large, they trust the States much more - this has historically been the case.
                    Natanyahu and Putin sympathize with each other.
                    In general, the Israelis do not care at all - their problems are higher than the roof.


                    So Krasnodar pulled himself up.
                    The last passage, about the fact that "the Israelis do not care at all" - it is worth its frankness)))).
            2. Captain45
              Captain45 26 February 2018 18: 16
              +2
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              .Pro Israel can say Vysotsky's song. And not a friend and not an enemy, but .......!

              There is also a quote from V.S. Vysotsky’s song about Israel ".... and there is a quarter of our former people"
          2. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 26 February 2018 08: 37
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            and do not rejoice in the failures of Israel in the third

            I agree, there are many who dance on the "bones", although I myself do not like Israel, but to sing praises for the sake of gloating - not when!
            Quote: Krasnodar
            today it is the only developed country that has not joined the sanctions against the Russian Federation

            I also agree, but your actions against Assad’s troops are bewildering? ... if the state of war - so decisively with 2-3 tank wedges, enter Damascus and the problem is solved, and the constant bombing with additional far-fetched pretexts - a war out of the blue ...
            Quote: Krasnodar
            while maintaining visa-free and good personal relationships between leaders.

            this is the same plus, but this does not mean that Putin is insulated, he has many of the same relationships around the world!
            1. alexsipin
              alexsipin 26 February 2018 09: 05
              +5
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              I also agree, but your actions against Assad’s troops are bewildering? ... if the state of war - so decisively with 2-3 tank wedges, enter Damascus and the problem is solved, and the constant bombing with additional far-fetched pretexts - a war out of the blue ...

              Then you need to feed. In addition, Syria is a tangle of problems where the Alawite minority dominates the Sunni minority. Israel has nothing to do there.
            2. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 26 February 2018 09: 11
              0
              Tanks to Damascus will not solve the problem. You will have to display it anyway and start over. With greater losses. Easier to bomb when necessary. I am not saying that Putin is isolated, it’s just that with Natanyahu their degree of cooperation is much higher than with the leaders of other Western countries.
          3. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 26 February 2018 09: 26
            +2
            Quote: Krasnodar
            - Today it is the only developed country that has not joined the sanctions against the Russian Federation, while maintaining visa-free and good personal relations between leaders.

            Well, direct "lepota"! And the bombing of Syrian territory by Israeli aircraft, and the launching of air-to-ground missiles, of course, by no means pose a threat to Russian citizens in Syria! God will "carry"!
        2. kirgiz58
          kirgiz58 26 February 2018 06: 29
          0
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          Five rubles each !!!!!!!!

          Five rubles each is about fresh, and these three and not even yesterday, and pose-pose yesterday. smile
          1. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 26 February 2018 08: 00
            +2
            Everything Soviet was high-quality, and real. Therefore, it works until their time. By the area of ​​defeat, they have no equal so far.
            1. kirgiz58
              kirgiz58 26 February 2018 08: 05
              +1
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              Everything Soviet was of high quality, and real.

              My comment is only about the time and accessibility (in terms of cost) of the Soviet heritage. And that it perfectly “works” even today, I am not exposed to any doubts.
              1. Mar.Tirah
                Mar.Tirah 26 February 2018 08: 38
                +1
                Yes, I understand. But the reality of the battle has changed. These missiles are too vulnerable, and the filling is ancient. The deployment time of the S-200 is generally a nightmare for 24 hours. Even in hot mode it is several hours. These are actually suicide bombers without cover. Here are most likely the Shells and Torahs, and covered from the Israeli Air Force cruise missiles.
  4. dog breeder
    dog breeder 26 February 2018 06: 00
    +2
    In all cases, the case is to blame. So write it down! After all, before that they flew, and nothing happened to them. Happening!
  5. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 26 February 2018 06: 02
    +2
    The co-pilot was discharged from the hospital, returned to the unit
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 February 2018 06: 06
    +7
    It's a shame, of course. Syria has already been written off, and she once and again in the game .... And more dangerous than it was ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 February 2018 06: 43
      +6
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It's a shame, of course. Syria has already been written off, and she once and again in the game .... And more dangerous than it was ...

      You are joking? what
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 26 February 2018 08: 07
        +6
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        You are joking?

        And then why in Israel diarrhea? wink
    2. Lex.
      Lex. 26 February 2018 08: 08
      +6
      Everything is true, but except for Israel, Turkey, Europe, the United States fly so why is silent about it
  7. elenagromova
    elenagromova 26 February 2018 06: 07
    +14
    Therefore he was shot down because Israel acted as an aggressor. It is quite normal when the plane of the aggressor for some reason falls. Rather, abnormal when he doesn't fall
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 26 February 2018 06: 39
      +9
      Quote: elenagromova
      Therefore he was shot down because Israel acted as an aggressor. It is quite normal when the plane of the aggressor for some reason falls. Rather, abnormal when he doesn't fall

      Enough of this babble to carry about "aggression" already, Syria has attacked Israel in a coalition and is still at war with Israel. It constantly supplies weapons to Hezbollah terrorists and builds bases for Iran along the border with Israel. So in war as in war. Assad wants a war, so he will receive it with all the ensuing consequences. Israel needs to take an example from Turkey and act more decisively.
      1. elenagromova
        elenagromova 26 February 2018 06: 45
        +10
        And this is the babble of an aggressive child, who always thinks that a scoop is taken from his sandbox.
      2. Herculesic
        Herculesic 26 February 2018 06: 51
        +14
        So go to Israel, take weapons, and help the Israeli army! Or a hero only on the Internet, from under the Russian flag, which needs to be changed because you don’t shame our flag, defender of Israel!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 26 February 2018 07: 07
          +3
          Quote: Herkulesich
          So go to Israel, take weapons, and help the Israeli army! Or a hero only on the Internet, from under the Russian flag, which needs to be changed because you don’t shame our flag, defender of Israel!

          And if people in Israel have already served an urgent and reservist? )))
          And to express one’s pro-Israeli opinion does not mean to dishonor the Russian flag - on the contrary, the reckless support of Arabs and Persians shows complete ignorance of history and modern realities in the BV and in the world.
          1. Herculesic
            Herculesic 26 February 2018 07: 15
            +8
            Krasnodar hi -such spray of saliva, in your opinion, is “harmless”? Yes, there the bile car will be spilled out to the address of our country first! And this scribbler himself is sitting on the site under our Russian flag! !! am
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 26 February 2018 07: 33
              +3
              I reread the Madcat post again. Nothing bad has been said about Russia.
              Herculesych, if you have the opportunity, talk to the specialists who were now in Syria - they will tell you clearly what about the Arabs, incl. (even mostly) Asad think.
            2. prapor75m
              prapor75m 26 February 2018 10: 02
              +2
              so Krasnodar is also one of them wink .....
              1. vasya.pupkin
                vasya.pupkin 27 February 2018 12: 16
                +2
                Quote: prapor75m
                so Krasnodar is also one of them wink .....

                So he is not in Israel, because he has a “lawyer dad,” so he is not taken into the “God’s chosen,” and therefore Judas rages.
          2. Varna
            Varna 26 February 2018 21: 55
            0
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Quote: Herkulesich
            So go to Israel, take weapons, and help the Israeli army! Or a hero only on the Internet, from under the Russian flag, which needs to be changed because you don’t shame our flag, defender of Israel!

            And if people in Israel have already served an urgent and reservist? )))
            And to express one’s pro-Israeli opinion does not mean to dishonor the Russian flag - on the contrary, the reckless support of Arabs and Persians shows complete ignorance of history and modern realities in the BV and in the world.


            And the reckless support of the Jews would show a complete lack of brains in a person or a country that decided to do this.
      3. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 26 February 2018 09: 24
        +1
        Quote: MadCat
        Syria attacked Israel

        ??? This is something new. Or maybe Syria, as an ally of Lebanon, helped the latter to repel Israeli aggression?
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 26 February 2018 11: 19
          +3
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: MadCat
          Syria attacked Israel

          ??? This is something new. Or maybe Syria, as an ally of Lebanon, helped the latter to repel Israeli aggression?

          Today's events should be seen in clear connection with historical retrospective. For this, it is simply necessary even a littleto study materiel the history of BV, so that you are not laughed at and not convicted of complete ignorance. stop
          So, Israel and Syria have been at war since the 1948 of the year - since it attacked Israel on the day of its independence, but received a stiff rebuff. 20 years after that, she bombarded his territory from the Golan Heights. As a result of heavy fighting, in 1967, Israel drove the Syrians out of their fortifications in the Golan. In 1973, she attacked Israel again, but grabbed her hands very tightly. When, in your words, “Syria, as an ally of Lebanon, helped the latter to repel Israeli aggression,” in fact, it kept Lebanon under occupation. True, this did not help much and in 1982, Israel over the 3 day completely destroyed the Syrian air defense forces located there. With no casualties, Israel shot down about 80 fighters and destroyed 19 air defense batteries. For 30 years, Syria controlled most of the country's territory there. Lebanon hardly got rid of it in 2005. hi
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 26 February 2018 16: 10
            +2
            Privalov.
            Those. Syria occupied Lebanon with its Air Force and SAMs? Interesting ... Go on.
            Quote: A. Privalov

            So, Israel and Syria have been at war since the 1948 of the year - since it attacked Israel on the day of its independence,

            Tell me, where did Israel come from in the lands of Palestine and even proclaimed its independence? And how many resolutions have the UN adopted on the issue of Israel’s aggressive actions against its “neighbors,” but in fact the owners of the land that you occupied?
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 26 February 2018 16: 34
              +5
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Privalov.
              Those. Syria occupied Lebanon with its Air Force and SAMs? Interesting ... Go on.
              Quote: A. Privalov

              So, Israel and Syria have been at war since the 1948 of the year - since it attacked Israel on the day of its independence,

              Tell me, where did Israel come from in the lands of Palestine and even proclaimed its independence? And how many resolutions have the UN adopted on the issue of Israel’s aggressive actions against its “neighbors,” but in fact the owners of the land that you occupied?

              Stop it, dear, do not repeat the usual nonsense about the unfortunate Palestinians whose evil Jews took their homeland. You don’t even know who it is and you cannot say anything here about Palestine and the Palestinians. Tell about this people, well, at least something that was widely known about it until the middle of the last century. Maybe you know what this people were famous for then? Tell us about the contribution of this people to world culture, science, technology, etc. ... Maybe you know their national writer, poet, artist, or scientist? What is this state of Palestine? Where was it located? Who were its master rulers, of course, before the Jews occupied them? Well, at least say something good about your proteges, except for an empty chatter.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 26 February 2018 17: 09
                +3
                Quote: A. Privalov
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Privalov.
                Those. Syria occupied Lebanon with its Air Force and SAMs? Interesting ... Go on.
                Quote: A. Privalov

                So, Israel and Syria have been at war since the 1948 of the year - since it attacked Israel on the day of its independence,

                Tell me, where did Israel come from in the lands of Palestine and even proclaimed its independence? And how many resolutions have the UN adopted on the issue of Israel’s aggressive actions against its “neighbors,” but in fact the owners of the land that you occupied?

                Stop it, dear, do not repeat the usual nonsense about the unfortunate Palestinians whose evil Jews took their homeland. You don’t even know who it is and you cannot say anything here about Palestine and the Palestinians. Tell about this people, well, at least something that was widely known about it until the middle of the last century. Maybe you know what this people were famous for then? Tell us about the contribution of this people to world culture, science, technology, etc. ... Maybe you know their national writer, poet, artist, or scientist? What is this state of Palestine? Where was it located? Who were its master rulers, of course, before the Jews occupied them? Well, at least say something good about your proteges, except for an empty chatter.

                Yes, about the Palestinians, here I will not argue with you simply because you are right. BUT....
                Does this mean that all African, South American tribes that did not give world civilization a gu-gu should be expelled from their land in the reservation and gradually, through the erection of artificial obstacles in their formation, the development of statehood, etc., etc., and etc. Must be destroyed?
                1. A. Privalov
                  A. Privalov 26 February 2018 21: 01
                  +5
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk

                  Yes, about the Palestinians, here I will not argue with you simply because you are right. BUT....
                  Does this mean that all African, South American tribes that did not give world civilization a gu-gu should be expelled from their land in the reservation and gradually, through the erection of artificial obstacles in their formation, the development of statehood, etc., etc., and etc. Must be destroyed?

                  No way, BUT ...
                  In the 30's - 40's of the last century, Britain and France cut Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia here ...
                  29 November 1947 year, the United Nations at the Second session of its General Assembly adopted Resolution No. 181 on which what was left was intended for two states - Jewish and Arabic. Palestinian Jews took advantage of the chance they had been waiting for two thousand years and for 70 years Israel has existed. Arabs, instead of creating their own state, began to dog. Well, here they’ve played out ... And in the Middle East, as in a big family - whoever clicked with a bread slicer, was left without porridge.
                  I have already talked about this more than once, but if you are not already in the know, I repeat that more than anything else, Palestinian Arabs are afraid of creating their own state. The current status is much more profitable for them - a lot of money can be extracted from it, which will immediately disappear when the state is created. Victim status is incredibly beneficial: no one will blame you for anything. “Unfortunate” and “destitute” can do whatever they want, including the most bloody crimes, but no one will blame them for violence. After all, they submit themselves to the world as a victim of violence! Under the conditions of their own statehood, the Palestinians will immediately lose the special charisma of the universal sacrifice, suffering from a brutal “occupation”, then - sorry, goodbye, financial assistance.
                  Having convinced most countries of the world that the Palestinians are the object of monstrous persecution and humiliation in the Holy Land, they brought this idea to full perfection. And since then they are not tired of making unprecedented profits. They became UN favorites. Foreign non-profit organizations and charitable foundations are pouring millions of dollars into the bottomless pockets of Palestinians, trying to "heal the physical, psychological and financial wounds of the tormented people." Official injections last year alone are approaching three billion.

                  This is with its own GDP of 8 (!) Billion.
                  At one time, the Marshall Plan for several years lifted from the ruins destroyed 2МВ European countries with 50-th million refugees. Since the 1993 of the year, world sponsors have thrown almost 4 (four, Max!) Of the Marshall Plan into Palestinian pockets.
                  The wise Palestinians, who still remember Arafat and his gang, have good reasons for quiet resistance to statehood. They understand that if they get their own state, they will fall under the merciless oppression of corrupt Fatah officials or Hamas religious fanatics who will stop at nothing - just to save power and money. They do not want the power of Hamas, which seeks to establish Sharia law, and do not want to be ruled by Fatah officials who shamelessly rob them. No states are created by any decisions or decrees of the UN. They are created by people living in them. We would like to create - we would have created it long ago.
                  In other words, the Arabs in 1947 received the exact same train ticket for History as the Jews. Only instead of creating their own state, they began military operations in order to prevent the creation of an independent Jewish state, they lost this war and missed their chance, and the train left ...
                  History has its own way: the new Israel this year is 70 years old, and the Arabs ride donkeys and curse the Jews in all their troubles.
                  1. Varna
                    Varna 26 February 2018 22: 01
                    +1
                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk

                    Yes, about the Palestinians, here I will not argue with you simply because you are right. BUT....
                    Does this mean that all African, South American tribes that did not give world civilization a gu-gu should be expelled from their land in the reservation and gradually, through the erection of artificial obstacles in their formation, the development of statehood, etc., etc., and etc. Must be destroyed?

                    No way, BUT ...
                    In the 30's - 40's of the last century, Britain and France cut Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia here ...
                    29 November 1947 year, the United Nations at the Second session of its General Assembly adopted Resolution No. 181 on which what was left was intended for two states - Jewish and Arabic. Palestinian Jews took advantage of the chance they had been waiting for two thousand years and for 70 years Israel has existed. Arabs, instead of creating their own state, began to dog. Well, here they’ve played out ... And in the Middle East, as in a big family - whoever clicked with a bread slicer, was left without porridge.
                    I have already talked about this more than once, but if you are not already in the know, I repeat that more than anything else, Palestinian Arabs are afraid of creating their own state. The current status is much more profitable for them - a lot of money can be extracted from it, which will immediately disappear when the state is created. Victim status is incredibly beneficial: no one will blame you for anything. “Unfortunate” and “destitute” can do whatever they want, including the most bloody crimes, but no one will blame them for violence. After all, they submit themselves to the world as a victim of violence! Under the conditions of their own statehood, the Palestinians will immediately lose the special charisma of the universal sacrifice, suffering from a brutal “occupation”, then - sorry, goodbye, financial assistance.
                    Having convinced most countries of the world that the Palestinians are the object of monstrous persecution and humiliation in the Holy Land, they brought this idea to full perfection. And since then they are not tired of making unprecedented profits. They became UN favorites. Foreign non-profit organizations and charitable foundations are pouring millions of dollars into the bottomless pockets of Palestinians, trying to "heal the physical, psychological and financial wounds of the tormented people." Official injections last year alone are approaching three billion.

                    This is with its own GDP of 8 (!) Billion.
                    At one time, the Marshall Plan for several years lifted from the ruins destroyed 2МВ European countries with 50-th million refugees. Since the 1993 of the year, world sponsors have thrown almost 4 (four, Max!) Of the Marshall Plan into Palestinian pockets.
                    The wise Palestinians, who still remember Arafat and his gang, have good reasons for quiet resistance to statehood. They understand that if they get their own state, they will fall under the merciless oppression of corrupt Fatah officials or Hamas religious fanatics who will stop at nothing - just to save power and money. They do not want the power of Hamas, which seeks to establish Sharia law, and do not want to be ruled by Fatah officials who shamelessly rob them. No states are created by any decisions or decrees of the UN. They are created by people living in them. We would like to create - we would have created it long ago.
                    In other words, the Arabs in 1947 received the exact same train ticket for History as the Jews. Only instead of creating their own state, they began military operations in order to prevent the creation of an independent Jewish state, they lost this war and missed their chance, and the train left ...
                    History has its own way: the new Israel this year is 70 years old, and the Arabs ride donkeys and curse the Jews in all their troubles.

                    Wow, what sheets does Privalov scratch - he must be credited by the Israeli government for the number of letters, not otherwise))))
                    1. A. Privalov
                      A. Privalov 26 February 2018 22: 11
                      +5
                      Quote: Varna

                      Wow, what sheets does Privalov scratch - he must be credited by the Israeli government for the number of letters, not otherwise))))

                      And something other than an empty chatter, to say on the topic of discussion is weak Oh? hi
                  2. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 27 February 2018 11: 11
                    +1
                    Mr. Privalov, I will not quote your voluminous post. I’ll just express my perception of it. To begin with, I’ll give you a certain analogy. The son comes home with a black eye. The reaction of my mother - the guard, my son, such a good, smart, and so on and so on, was beaten by mentally retarded hooligans. Your position is the position of mom. Rarely does any mom have the right reaction. My position is the position of an outside observer. I am a witness of how my son himself attacked the "hooligans" in an attempt to get a "godfather" place in this courtyard of the apartment building. And by the way, he succeeded in this. Honestly, I am delighted with your leaders at that time. Leading the Zionist movement. After all, they carried out a multifaceted, multi-level, time-consuming operation. The first thing they did was create the Holocaust myth. Do not rush to be angry. I will explain why - a myth. 1. The Warsaw uprising, if I am not mistaken, - August-October 1944. Jews, quite a large number, also took part in the uprising. And this is an indisputable fact. But how so? After all, Hitler spent the Holocaust, and Polish Jews survived until the fall of 44 years. At the same time, by the fall of 44g. In the German-occupied territory of the USSR, almost all Jews were exterminated. So Hitler destroyed only Soviet Jews? And, as already proven, not by German Sonderkommands, but by local Nazis, mainly the Baltic and Ukrainian. The Poles, by the way, also distinguished themselves in this. Do not be offended. In fact, I grieve with you about the executed Jews. But why should I grieve more about them than about my fellow tribesmen killed by Nazism? And they died more than Jews. But Germany paid "compensation" for the murder of Jews, but for the reason, for the murder of my fellow tribesmen, no. Why? Because we did not create a worldwide cry for the "Holocaust". The Zionists needed the Holocaust to receive "reparations" from Germany. And I repeat, I admire your then leaders - the founding fathers of Israel. The second thing they did was the resettlement of Jews in future Israel. Bravo! But immigrants somewhere need to be resettled. There are few dwellings. But next to it - idiots - Palestinians. Where possible, the Palestinians were slowly squeezed out of their lands, wherever possible, land was bought from half-wits, and where it was simply a bulldozer. The Aboriginal settlement was demolished and a kibutz was built on this site. And again - bravo! And that is not all. So that the Palestinians could not organize their state, what should be done? - Right! In time to eliminate the leaders of the Palestinians capable of doing this. And the Mossad, accusing them of terrorism, simply fired such leaders. And now you are telling me that the Palestinians are not only incapable, but they do not want to create their own state. And how will they create it under the constant Israeli terror? And again - bravo! You tell me how much money has been pumped into Palestine. Then tell, at the same time, how many funds have been pumped into Israel by Germany, the USA. I will not deny that you have disposed of these funds in a smart way. And again - bravo!
                    1. A. Privalov
                      A. Privalov 27 February 2018 14: 45
                      +1
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      Mr. Privalov, I will not quote your voluminous post. I’ll just express my perception of it. To begin with, I’ll give you a certain analogy.

                      This is not an analogy, but the usual translation of arrows. 15 of May 1948 of the Jewish state proclaimed on that day (the day before, no one even thought that it would be called Israel) Attacked Syria, Transjordan, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, with the support of the Arab Liberation Army, the Holy War Army and other smaller shellon. As a result of the War of Independence, by the year 1949, they all got a firm grip on the horns and crawled out to lick their wounds, but in their hands remained part of the land intended for the Arab state. Thus, the Gaza Strip remained with Egypt, while the territory of Judea and Samaria (with the bashful political correctness today called the “West Bank of the Jordan”) remained with Transjordan. For almost 20 years, until 1967, no “Palestinians”, with a complete absence of any, for no their state did not pretend until Israel of the Egyptians and Jordanians pushed by us.
                      By the way, ask at your leisure who, when and how the "Palestinians" created.
                      About the Holocaust, Zionists, etc., I won’t even discuss with you, so as not to lead you into temptation and so that you do not fall under Article 354 -1 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Rehabilitation of Nazism”. If you are not in the know:
                      Liability has been established for denying the facts established by the judgment of the International Military Tribunal for the trial and punishment of the main war criminals of the European Axis countries, approving the crimes established by the said judgment, as well as disseminating deliberately false information <...> committed in public. In particular, this verdict established the fact of extermination in the period 1933-1945 of 6 million Jews throughout Europe, later called the "Holocaust".

                      Regarding the "lack of land, bulldozers, the shooting of leaders and Israeli terror" - once again, do not repeat the usual nonsense after others, do not use mossy cliches and cliches of the Soviet agitation prop. Israel made the last land acquisitions 50 (fifty, Karl!) Years ago, and most of them (60 thousand sq. Km, three times the territory of Israel itself) have long been transferred to Egypt and Jordan under peace treaties. Do not cry for the "innocent slain." You know exactly those people from Beslan, Nord-Ost, etc. I also want to draw your attention to the fact that Arabs flee from Syria and Iraq, Morocco, Libya and Algeria ... They flee from everywhere, from where you can escape. Europe is already groaning. Arabs do not flee only from where they live the worst - from under the yoke of the Israeli occupation. Well, they do not flee, from where, according to them, they terribly suffer from the atrocities of the Israeli military, drinking the blood of Islamic babies. After all, in your opinion, there is no worse place for the Arabs to live than Samaria and Judea. Monstrous hunger, powerlessness and incredible deprivation probably make you suffer day and night at the thought of the unfortunate "Palestinian people"? Not a single group of the world's population has enjoyed and does not enjoy such caring, constant, loving attention as miserable Arabs ruled by bloodthirsty Jews. But, oddly enough, the "Palestinians" are not going to run anywhere. hi
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 27 February 2018 16: 30
                        +3
                        Mr. Privalov. About the chloocaust. I'm a little about that. I do not dispute the death of 6 million Jews at the hands of the Nazis no matter what nationality. It is important that the crimes were committed with the encouragement of the Nazi administration in the occupied territories. Although a number of American, Swiss, Russian researchers of the Holocaust and claim that the death toll is too high. But this does not cancel the fact of the crime. I spoke about the difference in the assessment of the crimes of Nazism against Jews and against people of other nationalities. In my opinion, this estimate is at least not fair. Making Jews the main victims during WWII is simply not ethical. Regarding Resolution 181 of Gen. Assembly. And if you were building not a national state on those lands, but a federal one with Palestinian Arabs, then, I think, no one would attack you. But for some reason you are constantly isolating yourself. Here in our city there is a memorial at the site of a concentration camp. A whole complex with a monument was built, a wall with metal plates cast with the names of Soviet citizens destroyed in the camp by both prisoners of war and local residents, and eternal flame. But this seemed not enough to the local Jewish community. They erected another monument directly to the Jews who died here. It would seem well put and set. But they thereby separated themselves from other citizens. Those. you separate yourself, and then you are surprised, let's say, by not treating the Jews very well. Listen to Kharkov citizen Khodos, listen to Y. Kedmi. It will be useful to you.
                        At this, I believe, our dialogue needs to be completed, in view of the impossibility of proving something to each other. Sincerely.
    2. Lex.
      Lex. 26 February 2018 09: 53
      +1
      Well, one plane crashed in 30 years and that there are no unbreakable planes
  8. anjey
    anjey 26 February 2018 06: 13
    +12
    It is noted that in fulfilling the task assigned by the command, the Israeli Air Force F-16 crew made a mistake, "not protecting themselves properly and focusing solely on solving the combat mission."
    a fine of 1000 shekels, preferably 3000.
    Sloppies, and if it was an F-35 ????
    For 5000 shekels and without pity !!! ..
    1. anjey
      anjey 26 February 2018 06: 22
      +9
      let the combat instructions teach, they’ve dishonored such a country .. although they aren’t aware of the near, that all these sorties are against wounded Syria, a great meanness, although what am I talking about, these are their fosterlings, with their advisers they cut heads to people, so who is the terrorist in BV? say ???
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 26 February 2018 06: 52
        +4
        Quote: anjey
        let the combat instructions be taught, soooo the country disgraced ..,


        Well, we at least do not state that the submarine "drowned"
        1. SEER
          SEER 26 February 2018 19: 47
          0
          Quote: Maki Avellevich
          Quote: anjey
          let the combat instructions be taught, soooo the country disgraced ..,

          Well, we at least do not state that the submarine "drowned"

          Well, yours said so about f-16
        2. Varna
          Varna 26 February 2018 22: 03
          0
          Quote: Maki Avellevich
          Quote: anjey
          let the combat instructions be taught, soooo the country disgraced ..,


          Well, we at least do not state that the submarine "drowned"

          Oh, what a thin banter, it only dawned on me for the tenth time - soooooo)))))
    2. Lynx33
      Lynx33 26 February 2018 06: 45
      +3
      Something you cheaply appreciated F-16. Jews, they are a rich people, a fine and more will pull :)
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 26 February 2018 06: 25
    +5
    What a fundamental media defense of the superiority of military technology! ... And you could just say: "He fell."
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  11. Lynx33
    Lynx33 26 February 2018 06: 43
    +7
    Yes, bring everything to the pilot :) There is a standard excuse - the air conditioner is jammed.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 February 2018 07: 04
      +2
      Quote: Lynx33
      Yes, bring everything to the pilot :) There is a standard excuse - the air conditioner is jammed.

      Parsing errors is necessary in order not to make them again. Only supermen on sofas are not mistaken. And the pilot is not to blame for anything. He will continue to serve.
      1. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 26 February 2018 08: 15
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        And the pilot is not to blame for anything. He will continue to serve.

        Of course! And he has an excuse for his wife, why the salary has decreased: "Now I have to pay for the plane !!" Or maybe not excuse, but for real? How is the matter with the IDF?
  12. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 26 February 2018 06: 49
    +18
    Damn it. "Military review "? Turned the site into a party for talkers. I think maybe forum users will want to talk about the passive component of the aircraft electronic warfare system, that is, about such systems as: Radar Warning System (RWR, Radar Warning Receiver), Laser warning system (LWR, Laser Warning Receiver), Missile Approach Warning System (MAW), but RWR in the first place. One of the assumptions about the plane crash was that the RWR was faulty. Now it’s confirmed that this is not true. the crew received all the necessary warnings. of fighters is definitely not interested in political education.
    1. Cheldon
      Cheldon 26 February 2018 07: 30
      +15
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Damn it. "Military review "? Turned the site into a party for talkers. I think maybe forum users will want to talk about the passive component of the aircraft electronic warfare system, that is, about such systems.

      In this I agree with you. The discussion of the article came down to the dismantling of Shura Balaganov and Panikovsky: Who are you? No, who are you? laughing
      1. ultra
        ultra 26 February 2018 08: 05
        +5
        Quote: Cheldon
        The discussion of the article was reduced to the dismantling of Shura Balaganov and Panikovsky

        And this, that for the first time? As soon as Israel is mentioned in the article, it starts you know what. laughing
    2. anjey
      anjey 26 February 2018 07: 44
      +2
      the human factor - and all the exact systems do not count, and in our time politics is already in closets, look what politicians from sports with the Olympics have done, and this is sports and pure sports competition ??? This is the source of sport ...,
      1. anjey
        anjey 26 February 2018 09: 37
        0
        And VO is just at the forefront of both military and political battles ...
      2. anjey
        anjey 26 February 2018 15: 08
        0
        Sorry for the mistakes, wrote on the sotik and didn’t fix it on time, mainly for David children, they’re falling for it, they can show it seriously, without actually seeing ......laughing
    3. Professor
      Professor 26 February 2018 07: 52
      +13
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Damn it. "Military review "? Turned the site into a party for talkers. I think maybe forum users will want to talk about the passive component of the aircraft electronic warfare system, that is, about such systems as: Radar Warning System (RWR, Radar Warning Receiver), Laser warning system (LWR, Laser Warning Receiver), Missile Approach Warning System (MAW), but RWR in the first place. One of the assumptions about the plane crash was that the RWR was faulty. Now it’s confirmed that this is not true. the crew received all the necessary warnings. of fighters is definitely not interested in political education.

      What for? Here, all the big "experts" ranging from custom-made propagandists who failed to establish their personal lives to couch fighters react to the word "Israel" like Pavlov’s dog.
      1. In the photo in the article, the aircraft is not in service with the IDF. Here is a photo to put:

      2. For some reason, I’m not surprised that ours didn’t compose how “pilots risking their lives took the plane away from the village” or “committed a heroic act while continuing to carry out a combat mission although they could evade a missile,” and so on.

      3. Taxpayers were informed that the crew made a mistake and lost the plane. There was no negligence.

      4. The navigator flies again. The pilot is recovering.

      5. Israeli air superiority was not affected. The facts are proof of this.

      6. Conclusions are made. Patties handed out.

      PS
      Let there be srach. fellow
      1. Cheldon
        Cheldon 26 February 2018 08: 38
        +1
        [quote = professor] [quote = Aron Zawi] Damn and this "Military review "?

        4. The navigator flies again. The pilot is recovering.

        fellow[/ Quote]
        Israeli navigator is the most severe navigator in the world: having refused rehabilitation and without VLK already flies. Well, well done, what can I say. wink
        1. Professor
          Professor 26 February 2018 08: 51
          +4
          [quote = Cheldon] [quote = professor] [quote = Aron Zaawi] Damn and this "Military review "?

          4. The navigator flies again. The pilot is recovering.

          fellow[/ Quote]
          Israeli navigator is the most severe navigator in the world: having refused rehabilitation and without VLK already flies. Well, well done, what can I say. wink[/ Quote]
          You can immediately see the person who served in aviation. wink The catapulted crew member is trying to return to the air as soon as possible.
          http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/20feb2018/f16_101.
          html
          The navigator of the F-16, crashed on February 10, flew with the IDF Air Force commander


          http://newsru.co.il/israel/12feb2018/pilot_103.ht
          ml
          IDF Air Force Commander visits pilot of crashed F-16 in hospital
          Currently, the navigator, who received minor injuries, has already been discharged from the hospital. The condition of the pilot, who received severe wounds and injuries, is moderate - there is no threat to his life.
    4. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 26 February 2018 08: 41
      +1
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      . But this is clearly not interesting for the soldiers of political education.

      not everyone, I wonder - why did the pilot and navigator know about the attack - didn’t they follow the instructions anyway? .... either low qualifications, or did Rambo consider themselves ??
    5. brigadir
      brigadir 26 February 2018 09: 52
      +6
      Yes. It’s just worth looking at the comments and closing the browser window - there have not even been any discussions lately - solid patriotic insinuations involved in terry anti-Semitism. Pichalka however.
    6. AntiFREEZ
      AntiFREEZ 26 February 2018 10: 11
      +2
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Turned the site into a party for talkers. I think maybe forum users want to talk about the passive component of the aircraft electronic warfare system

      Emergencies were canceled, as a result - littered branches. While you make your way through verbal diarrhea of ​​idiots, you will already forget what I wanted to ask request
      ===============================================
      In fact:
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      the crew received all the necessary warnings.

      And why didn’t they react?
      Well, let's say the navigator-operator focused on finding targets and controlling weapons, but what kind of pilot ... did he reveal?
      It was also lucky that leaving the board was lucky over his territory.
      1. brigadir
        brigadir 26 February 2018 10: 19
        +1
        According to our MO, 25 missiles were fired at our planes. What a lot. In total, there were 4 aircraft on the mission. 3 aircraft correctly maneuvered - abruptly went down. One hesitated - was late with a maneuver. This is a mistake. Mistakes happen. Learn from mistakes.
        1. AntiFREEZ
          AntiFREEZ 26 February 2018 10: 34
          0
          Quote: brigadir
          One hesitated

          The navigator did not have a desire to fill the face of the senior Ohmu on the next officer’s booze?

          We practiced at the service. Flight weaned from "kneading". angry
    7. sivuch
      sivuch 26 February 2018 10: 25
      +4
      And for this there is the necessary information? After all, it was not even announced what shot him down (although rods, fragments or other warhead elements should remain in the fuselage to determine what kind of missile it was). And the soldiers of political enlightenment on both sides are facing each other
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  13. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 26 February 2018 06: 50
    +1
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Damn it. "Military review "? Turned the site into a party for talkers. I thought maybe the forum users will want to talk about the passive component of the aircraft electronic warfare system, that is, about such systems as: Radar Warning System (RWR, Radar Warning Receiver), Laser Warning System (LWR, Laser Warning Receiver), Missile Approach Warning System (MAW), but RWR in the first place. One of the assumptions about the plane crash was that the RWR was faulty. Now it’s confirmed that this is not true. the crew received all the necessary warnings. But this is clearly not interesting for the soldiers of political education.
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      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 26 February 2018 07: 48
        +5
        Quote: Lynx33
        Can you also lay out the parameters or scan TK and attach to the comment ???? It’s better to nail your lip with nails so as not to sag.

        Actually, Mr. Ham talked about the passive protection systems F-16, but to understand this you need to understand the text of the opponent, and not throw the finger.
        1. Lynx33
          Lynx33 26 February 2018 16: 02
          0
          And this is not the first case of a divorce admitted to the information, which is not for everyone. There are many professional techies among commentators.
    2. okko077
      okko077 26 February 2018 11: 31
      +1
      Did Zyama decide to show off erudition? These separate systems are equipped with old planes, on new ones everything is different! What are technical discussions with teapots about?
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  15. Lynx33
    Lynx33 26 February 2018 07: 38
    +5
    I watch Jews painfully hunt for technical parameters. Commentators IN, do not forget: the talker is a godsend for the spy.
  16. Dormidont
    Dormidont 26 February 2018 07: 54
    +2
    And do not report why there is still only one?
  17. Oznob
    Oznob 26 February 2018 08: 04
    +2
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Now it is confirmed that this is not true and the crew received all the necessary warnings.

    Well, you can say that, the main shadow should not be cast on export equipment. The usual practice, we bring everything to gouging and boots on the remote.
  18. Under the dome
    Under the dome 26 February 2018 09: 08
    +1
    Yeah, you have to strike back
    1. anjey
      anjey 26 February 2018 15: 03
      +1
      Rabinovich to you, this gesheft will come out sideways, one grandmother Wang said .... laughing
      1. Under the dome
        Under the dome 26 February 2018 17: 35
        +2
        Sideways gesheft came out when you stormed an oil plant in Syria.
    2. Varna
      Varna 26 February 2018 22: 09
      0
      Quote: Under the dome
      Yeah, you have to strike back

      Oh, here a brand new clone drew; you little zeevi and professors, decided to upgrade the group of couch troops of Israel)))
  19. Prisoner
    Prisoner 26 February 2018 09: 15
    +1
    As they say, excuse is golimaya. It was possible during this time and screw type "unprofessional actions of the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners."
  20. dojjdik
    dojjdik 26 February 2018 09: 17
    +4
    Assad put on your "stories" the main thing that the "immortal" aces of Israel can also be beaten down, otherwise the rudeness of Netanyahu goes off scale, just like after the Anschluss of Austria it goes off scale with Hitler and thus his impudence led to the 2nd World War
    1. brigadir
      brigadir 26 February 2018 09: 55
      +2
      For 30 years, one plane was shot down. Assad is really cool. And is it nothing that he has no more air defense? - you have to pay for everything.
      1. Lynx33
        Lynx33 26 February 2018 16: 06
        +1
        And when it appears what you will do, run to the Pentagon to complain? I suspect that the Russian leadership has ended the patient, and after the next raid you can finally rake to the fullest as in Soviet times.
        1. shans2
          shans2 26 February 2018 16: 18
          +1
          in Soviet times, there were imperfect air defense systems, single-channel and without proper electronic warfare cover .... now air defense has become much more effective and dangerous, while airplanes have not changed aerodynamically and are quantitatively smaller ...
          1. Lynx33
            Lynx33 27 February 2018 06: 37
            0
            That's just the Middle Eastern warriors from this did not become better.
        2. brigadir
          brigadir 26 February 2018 16: 41
          +1
          you can finally row to the fullest as in Soviet times

          But from now on in more detail. Who when and how raked in Soviet times? As far as I know, everything was exactly the opposite.
          1. Lynx33
            Lynx33 27 February 2018 06: 44
            0
            Please, in more detail, you are killing Russian citizens and their allies from under the silence, and de facto warring fighters are on your side against extremely aggressive bandits. I do not understand my compatriots who so kindly communicate with the Jews. Their fellow tribesmen are fighting against us, killing our citizens and destroying weapons donated to Syria with money from our taxes. I would add a strong word to you, but one ban has already received for this.
      2. anjey
        anjey 26 February 2018 16: 10
        +1
        I think your combat caput is yet to come, we’ll wait and see who’s who ..., don’t forget that Russia is in Syria forever, however much you like it, Amba and sha you, your masters will not like the Yankees, well, burn all in nuclear ashes ....
        1. brigadir
          brigadir 26 February 2018 16: 43
          +3
          do not forget that Russia in Syria is forever

          Russia (USSR) was in Afghanistan forever. As soon as the money runs out, and the number of 200s crosses a certain line, it will end right away forever.
          1. anjey
            anjey 26 February 2018 17: 16
            +1
            do not la la la to the public, venerable laughing .....
  21. Saffron
    Saffron 26 February 2018 10: 04
    +2
    The pilot’s mistake was that he flew to bomb a sovereign country
    1. brigadir
      brigadir 26 February 2018 10: 23
      +2
      1. Israel has a war with this country - quite officially. There is only an agreement on the delimitation and ceasefire.
      2. From the territory of the "sovereign" country (especially in quotation marks), a drone invaded the territory of Israel. Is this not an attack on sovereignty? Should I answer that?
      1. anjey
        anjey 26 February 2018 16: 37
        +4
        1. This is a vile demagogy when the terrorists half burned Syria, partly supported by you, and you are quietly hitting in the back, you are not heroes but Judas Iskariots, as it was for centuries ...
        2. The UAV could easily be launched by the Yankees from the At-tanf base, a usual provocation in your spirit, we are used to ....
        1. brigadir
          brigadir 26 February 2018 16: 49
          0
          Quote: anjey
          1. This is a vile demagogy when the terrorists half burned Syria, partly supported by you, and you are quietly hitting in the back, you are not heroes but Judas Iskariots, as it was for centuries ...
          2. The UAV could easily be launched by the Yankees from the At-tanf base, a usual provocation in your spirit, we are used to ....


          1. Judah Ish Krayot and all 12 apostles and Jesus himself are all Jews. You probably don’t like it. But this is a medical fact.
          Israel does not intervene in the war in Syria. We wish good luck to all parties to the conflict there. Do you really think that if Israel intervened in the conflict on the side of Assad’s opponents, Assad would last at least a month ?!

          2. UAVs were launched by aliens from Alpha Centauri. This is for sure and seriously!
          1. shans2
            shans2 27 February 2018 13: 23
            +1
            Jesus spoke Aramaic and only, he could not be a Jew)) and you slaves spoke Yiddish)
      2. Varna
        Varna 26 February 2018 22: 16
        0
        Quote: brigadir
        1. Israel has a war with this country - quite officially. There is only an agreement on the delimitation and ceasefire.
        2. From the territory of the "sovereign" country (especially in quotation marks), a drone invaded the territory of Israel. Is this not an attack on sovereignty? Should I answer that?

        In this life, on this planet, in general, everything is conditional: the country, and Israel and Syria and their territories, and sovereignty, and war and a ceasefire (especially a conditional ceasefire, very conditional)), and a drone - very conditional, because the pilot then he has (albeit far beyond the remote control), and you too, a man called a foreman is very conditional - today you are here - and tomorrow a stroke or heart attack. - and you are no longer here, but generally nowhere.
  22. prapor75m
    prapor75m 26 February 2018 10: 05
    +1
    Quote: brigadir
    And is it nothing that he has no more air defense? - you have to pay for everything.

    wink
  23. Egg
    Egg 26 February 2018 10: 40
    +2
    Quote: Herkulesich
    Krasnodar-such a spray of saliva, in your opinion, "harmless"?

    Krasnodar itself sits here under the Russian flag and also vehemently defends Israel, 100 pounds has dual citizenship, he himself (here on the website) admitted that he lives in Russia, and he has business in Israel and is located there most of the time. In Russia, probably hiding from creditors laughing
    Gentlemen, would you go to your homeland ... in Russia it would become easier to breathe, only to crap and know how to hide behind verbiage.
    1. SEER
      SEER 26 February 2018 19: 54
      +1
      Quote: Telur
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Krasnodar-such a spray of saliva, in your opinion, "harmless"?

      Krasnodar itself sits here under the Russian flag and also vehemently defends Israel, 100 pounds has dual citizenship, he himself (here on the website) admitted that he lives in Russia, and he has business in Israel and is located there most of the time. In Russia, probably hiding from creditors laughing
      Gentlemen, would you go to your homeland ... in Russia it would become easier to breathe, only to crap and know how to hide behind verbiage.

      he also wove something about an uncle who bought 25% of the agricultural land in Krasnodar, and naturally he privatized everything legally :-)
  24. Brekset
    Brekset 26 February 2018 11: 26
    +3
    This is a lightweight fighter 4 pack of $ 6 mil. Although the beginning of the release of 1974, But the Syrian air defense with their old missiles can break a bunch of firewood there. The Jews only have big words. They are afraid to rip very much. Ponte can pound and then run to Putin 4 weeks to ask. As long as there is Russia, Israel will be. Russia will not help, then their Arabs will devour. And pendestan will not help. I would advise you to sit quietly and blow in two holes. It’s not swaggering. This is a quasi-misunderstanding, a mistake of a gynecologist. Yes, Iran in the past may have done many troubles, but today they are more honest than Israel, which, like its patron of Palestine, is false to disgust. Iran brought a lot of troubles to my people, but today they are more honest than Israel. Iran sheds the blood of its fighters to liberate the people of its neighbors, they do not attack the alien state, they have not seized other people's territories. They are fighting the plague, which you treat in your own clinics. Here is your face and the truth.
  25. sgazeev
    sgazeev 26 February 2018 11: 59
    +2
    Come on, make excuses. We got it and immediately switched to Gaza, there is no air defense there. The defect is the promise of the Promised.
  26. sivuch
    sivuch 26 February 2018 14: 57
    +1
    Honestly - did not expect.
    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle-east/syria
    / pilot-error-caused-israeli-f-16-jet-crash-invest
    igators-say-but-will-make-iaf-better / 2018/02/25 /
    The moment there is a missile threat they should have set aside the mission to address the threat. Someone else would have fired at the target. ”
    A total of 27 anti-aircraft missiles were fired by Syrian defense forces at the eight Israeli Air Force pilots who were flying the mission in response to the infiltration of an Iranian military drone into Israeli air space.
    One of the missiles locked on to a second fighter jet among the eight warplanes in formation but that aircraft was able to evade the missile.
    The warning systems on the F-16 that crashed did work as required, and the pilot was informed in time but did not succeed in evading the missile. Once his plane was hit by the SA-5 missile, however, the pilot made the correct decision to eject together with the navigator.
    I hope you can not translate
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 26 February 2018 17: 56
      0
      There is information that the pilot was injured before the incident, the car was serviceable and combat ready. As a result, concentration was lost ... Which does not relieve the responsibility of the pilot and navigator.
      1. SEER
        SEER 10 March 2018 00: 51
        0
        Quote: Shahno
        There is information that the pilot was injured before the incident, the car was serviceable and combat ready. As a result, concentration was lost ... Which does not relieve the responsibility of the pilot and navigator.
        suicide chtol?
  27. anjey
    anjey 26 February 2018 17: 07
    +1
    Quote: brigadir
    Israel does not intervene in the war in Syria
    What are you, imagine that you were transported by a time machine during WWII and bombed ChTZ (Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant) in 1942, when Hitler rushes to the Volga, and then say that your actions are not directed against anyone and you do not meddle in war , and so you flew by, failed to hold out and bombed, your insolence is a parable in the tongues for a long time ...
  28. Cheldon
    Cheldon 26 February 2018 17: 43
    +1
    Why were the Iranians able to land a Yankis drone, but the Iranian Israelis not? No experts? I doubt it. Why couldn’t you just stop at the downing and not drive 4 planes for a screwdriver? We, in Russia, also have guys who grab a knife at any sideways glance, well, it’s clear with them ... But you are civilized people, the oldest on the planet, and it’s somehow not quite adequate to react to trifles.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 26 February 2018 17: 59
      0
      And put it on a fig, what's new? We have such principles ... Agree with adequate ones, and not with adequate ones. Well, the oldest ones are wrong.
      1. anjey
        anjey 26 February 2018 19: 28
        +1
        The oldest? laughing indeed delusions of grandeur cannot be cured, the blood is so mixed in you that even your scientists have really gone astray, saying to the impudent world that you are the very ancient Jews, they are the “wedge” guys in half with falsification of science ....
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 26 February 2018 19: 59
          0
          In all seriousness? You have a problem, I supported the joke. And so the most ancient here are the Hindus, the Chinese .. Well, these are those who hold traditions besides us.
          1. anjey
            anjey 26 February 2018 20: 10
            0
            You seem to be an adequate realist, apparently, do not defend your ancient chromosomes with foam at the mouth laughing .....
          2. Cheldon
            Cheldon 26 February 2018 20: 11
            +1
            Quote: Shahno
            In all seriousness? You have a problem, I supported the joke. And so the most ancient here are the Hindus, the Chinese .. Well, these are those who hold traditions besides us.

            Everyone has problems: without this, you can’t hide anywhere. I also think that there is a certain contingent, which in order to communicate normally with them, every day you need to start with a blow between the eyes with a club. If you miss one day, they will think that you have become weak, not magnanimous. Unfortunately, there are such.
    2. anjey
      anjey 26 February 2018 20: 59
      0
      because these trifles are simply provocations on the part of Israel of pure water, for the demonstration of power ..
    3. anjey
      anjey 26 February 2018 21: 00
      0
      these are not trifles but ordinary
      1. anjey
        anjey 26 February 2018 21: 13
        +1
        provocations from Israel ...
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  29. andrson
    andrson 26 February 2018 21: 00
    0
    Quote: Observer1
    Everyone lies, but Russia is “the most honest” when it is nowhere to be found, but for some reason it is always and everywhere there is about Jewish nuclear weapons, and why shout, especially since “silence is gold” - as the Russian proverb says.

    everyone lies the same way. but someone else.
  30. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 27 February 2018 16: 56
    +3
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    As for the resolution of 181 Gene. Assembly. And if you did not build a national state on those lands, but a federal one with the Arabs-Palestinians, then I think no one would have attacked you. Listen to the Khodiv Kharkiv citizen, listen to Ya. Kedmi.
    At this, I believe, our dialogue needs to be completed, in view of the impossibility of proving something to each other. Sincerely.

    The Jews still did not have time to build, as they have already been attacked. Moreover, you don’t know that a fifth of Israel’s population are Arabs?
    I am well aware of Hodos' reasoning - Gd is the judge, and I know Yasha Kedmi personally.
    I did not prove anything to you, but only in the order of the educational program I gave a small amount of factual material with which you, frankly, did not know it. Behind this and let me leave. Accept, etc. Regards, A.P. hi
  31. duchy
    duchy 28 February 2018 08: 18
    +1
    There is nothing to fly in an alien space. It's only the beginning. bully