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The war in the Donbass lasts longer than the Great Patriotic War

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1418 days of war ... What kind of war is this? About the Great Patriotic? Of course. Three years, ten months and seventeen days - exactly as she walked. But now it is - and one more war. Maybe a smaller and bloody, but also terrible, also barbaric, also bringing suffering. About the war unleashed by neo-fascist Ukraine in the Donbas.


The fact that the war in the Donbass caught up in its duration with the Great Patriotic War, said on both sides of the front. Residents of the DNI and the LC - with deep pain. Ukrainian media - portraying pain. And some ugredeateli - with their eternal dreams about the "Croatian version." Well, and, of course, the perpetrators of the war on both sides of the front are called different. The Ukrainian junta traditionally places its blame on Russia.



Perhaps you can argue about the date of the report. The Ukrainian magazine "Correspondent" counts this date from the beginning of April. Apparently, when it became clear: the clashes in Donetsk and Lugansk clearly lead to the separation of Donbass. Perhaps it would be more logical to keep this report on a specific date: April 13 of the year 2014, when the so-called ATO was announced. And perhaps even earlier, when in March the people, outraged by the coup, went to storm the administrative buildings in Donetsk and Lugansk, and the junta tried to crush these first mass protests. Well, oh well, you can accept the interpretation of the Korrespondent magazine, especially since both the Russian and Ukrainian media have devoted their publications to this peculiar milestone. So, it turns out that this line was overcome by 23 in February - on this day the war in the Donbass was a day longer than the Great Patriotic War. Only this new war is incomprehensible when will end ...

And this is also the Day of the Soviet Army. Or Defender of the Fatherland Day. No matter how you call this holiday, every time it becomes a symbolic day in Ukraine, because there are courageous people who do not agree either with total decommunization or with marasmic Russophobia. And these people are harassed by the authorities or attacked by fascist thugs.

So this time February 23 was not without such cases. In Odessa, the participants of the laying of flowers to the monument to the Unknown Sailor, located on the Walk of Fame, were detained by the police. The pretext for this was the accusation that some of the guys were in balaclava. But, pardon me, many participants of the notorious “euromaidan” posed in balaclavas - and claim that Yanukovych’s power acted “undemocraticly”, dispersing them. They are only silent about the fact that in addition to wearing a balaclava, they also smashed administrative buildings. And these people just laid flowers.

In Nikolaev, right-wing radicals cruelly beat a guy for laying flowers at the monument to the Heroes of the Great Patriotic War. This was very cynically boasted by an activist of the Nazi organization “National Corps”, saying that they “decided to give him first aid.” And published a photo of a beaten man.

If in this way Ukraine “congratulates” its citizens on February 23, then how can it not “congratulate” those who told her a clear “No!”? So I "congratulated" the Donbass ... with another war crime.

APU fired ambulance near Dokuchaevsk. As a result of this atrocity, three people died - a driver, a medical instructor and a wounded DPR soldier who was taken to the hospital.

Before this crime was committed, the authorities of the DPR, through OSCE representatives, appealed to the Ukrainian side to stop fire for the time being to evacuate the wounded man. And the Ukrainian military gave their consent. Dali, then to do what they did ...

Here is what the Deputy Commander of the operational command of the DPR, Eduard Basurin, told about this incident:

“The UAZ brand ambulance car carrying a wounded soldier was cynically shot with an anti-tank guided missile. The car, which had easily distinguishable signs with a red cross, was shot down. Three people were killed: a medical orderly, a medical orderly and a wounded soldier. ”

Moreover, the Ukrainian side even tried to submit information in such a way that it was allegedly not a vehicle with a red cross, but the BMP was shot. A certain "ATO volunteer" Donik boasted in such vile expressions:

“Tonight, the militants went to the stronghold to congratulate their orcs on their holiday. Caught the eyes of the guys from the 93 Brigade. No one else is going anywhere. Ironically, the opornik of militants is called "Cake". For the three militants this day was the last. Three 200-x ... Three cherries on the cake. "


And attached a photo of the BMP. The picture, which actually portrayed the car, destroyed during the battle for Debaltseve.

Representatives of the DPR intend to raise the issue of punishing killers for discussion in Minsk at the next meeting of the Contact Group. Of course, the chances that European politicians will pay attention to this are few. But such questions really need to be put wherever possible. As well as carefully document all the war crimes of the Ukrainian side. For the future tribunal.

By the way, about the tribunal. The head of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, said that in response to the so-called. The law on the reintegration of Donbass (which, among other things, justifies Ukrainian war criminals) will create a People's Tribunal.

Many were skeptical of this idea. Of course, it is not yet possible to deliver the punishers to the tribunal and judge in person. However, a body that will collect information about each crime against civilians of the DPR and LPR is necessary. And then - who knows? It is quite possible and such a scenario in which Ukraine will climb to carry out the "Croatian scenario" and pay for it. Then many punishers will have a very big chance to appear before the People's Tribunal. In particular, both for the brutal crime against the ambulance near Dokuchaevsky, and for the shelling of Zaitsevo, which is reported right now ...
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 26 February 2018 06: 24
    +6
    It is not clear what way out of this situation will be, no one is going to give in and people are dying.
    1. Alber
      Alber 26 February 2018 07: 49
      +10
      Quote: Spartanez300
      It is not clear what way out of this situation will be, no one is going to give in and people are dying.

      The Bandera-Jewish fascist mafia has seized power in Ukraine, the goal of which is the extermination of the Slavic people and the construction of New Khazaria until the last until it is thrown out by force, with kicks ... As if we did not have to take on the mission of cleaning the fraternal land from this evil
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 26 February 2018 08: 52
        +1
        Quote: Alber

        The Bandera-Jewish fascist mafia has seized power in Ukraine, the goal of which is the extermination of the Slavic people and the construction of New Khazaria until the last until it is thrown out by force, with kicks ... As if we did not have to take on the mission of cleaning the fraternal land from this evil


        And who will throw her away? that is the question. There will no longer be a new Maidan, if someone comes out they will immediately push the tanks and our “partners” will not say anything, they will only praise Petya. Yes, and those who want to fight there are not so many left, one part is massaged by the media, the other supports Bandera’s ideology in itself, the third is completely lost (Donbass, Crimea), the truth is Odessa and a couple of regions, but they also paid off, the same House Trade unions in Odessa (as an example) .... nothing good in general, do not have to wait.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 26 February 2018 08: 56
          +18
          . The fact that the war in the Donbass was equal in duration to the Great Patriotic War was spoken on both sides of the front. Residents of the DNI and LC - with deep pain.

          What kind of war ?? Here at VO, they have already proved to me twenty times that Putin donbass defended, but didn’t give residents an insult! These inhabitants lie!
          1. siberalt
            siberalt 26 February 2018 10: 53
            +3
            History will judge who is right. Everyone sees from his belfry. "Such is selyavi," as they say. winked VNA Uraine watch "Newsvan". Now there is a hot topic - who killed the "heavenly hundred." The truth flowed from all the cracks. belay
    2. BAI
      BAI 26 February 2018 08: 56
      +1
      There is only one way out, and it is obvious - there will be someone alone.
    3. Vend
      Vend 26 February 2018 09: 06
      +6
      The author is not a correct comparison. In the Great Patriotic War, one country attacked another (Germany on the USSR). In a situation with Donbass there is a Civil war. Then it is necessary to compare with the Civil War.
      1. Chichikov
        Chichikov 26 February 2018 11: 26
        +1
        The incorrectness of the duration of hostilities by day, in what? Change Roman numerals to Arabic? Or count dates from Creation?
        1. Vend
          Vend 26 February 2018 11: 39
          0
          Quote: Chichikov
          The incorrectness of the duration of hostilities by day, in what? Change Roman numerals to Arabic? Or count dates from Creation?

          Reread what I wrote again, questions will disappear by themselves. I wrote everything clearly.
      2. elenagromova
        26 February 2018 12: 13
        +7
        First, I was not the first to compare, and second, Ukraine attacked the newly established Independent Republics. And they, in turn, were created due to the fact that Kiev ceased to be legitimate
        1. Vend
          Vend 26 February 2018 13: 01
          +1
          Quote: elenagromova
          First, I was not the first to compare, and second, Ukraine attacked the newly established Independent Republics. And they, in turn, were created due to the fact that Kiev ceased to be legitimate

          Firstly, and secondly, also study the history of the conflict. The attack was before the proclamation of the Independent Republics, when the Donbass made a proposal for federalization and the status of the Russian language as the second state language. This is where the civil war in Ukraine began.
          1. elenagromova
            26 February 2018 14: 39
            +5
            If very, very accurate:
            7 April 2014 - the day of the proclamation of the DNI.
            13 April - the day of the beginning of "Ato"
            1. Vend
              Vend 26 February 2018 15: 13
              +1
              Quote: elenagromova
              If very, very accurate:
              7 April 2014 - the day of the proclamation of the DNI.
              13 April - the day of the beginning of "Ato"

              April 6 2014 years Residents of southeastern Ukraine who disagree with the policy of the new authorities (on February 22 a coup d'etat as a result of an acute political crisis) seized several office buildings in Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions. So, in particular, the buildings of the Donetsk Regional State Administration and the Security Service of Ukraine in Lugansk were blocked. Mass rallies of opponents of Euromaidan in the eastern regions of Ukraine - Dnepropetrovsk, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, etc. - began back in March of that year. Participants demanded a solution to the status of the Russian language and constitutional reform with decentralization of the regions up to federalization.
              1. elenagromova
                26 February 2018 15: 57
                +1
                Well, on April 7, after the victory in the RSA of Donetsk, the people chose representatives at the rally who adopted the Declaration on the formation of the Donetsk People's Republic.
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 26 February 2018 06: 36
    +5
    There will be a great list for the Tribunal! And the inevitability of punishment for the fascists!
    1. tforik
      tforik 26 February 2018 18: 33
      0
      It is not yet known on whose side this Hague tribunal will be.
  3. Petr petrov
    Petr petrov 26 February 2018 06: 38
    +9
    At least a lizard has its tail cut off, it will still grow a new one ... !!!!!!
    It was not necessary to stop in the year 13-14, for a long time this lizard's head would have been chopped off!
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 26 February 2018 07: 58
    +5
    But already 50 new generals appeared in the Armed Forces. and awarded the title to those who really took part in hostilities. Now you can make a little list for the tribunal.
  5. Scud
    Scud 26 February 2018 09: 01
    +5
    Communicating with all walks of life, God forgive the population in Sumeria, without any exaggeration, I put the Nazis and many of us Ukrainians in one row.
  6. Galleon
    Galleon 26 February 2018 09: 22
    +3
    Next to the tape is an article on Putin’s successes in foreign policy. There are such words, in particular:
    Russian President Vladimir Putin goes from one success to another. This can no longer be ignored and not recognized by almost all of his opponents. But the most interesting thing is that he has achieved this in the most non-standard and, as time has shown, in the most effective way for a modern politician.
    Dr. Goebbels once claimed that from repeated repetition, a lie would seem to people to be true. TO
    Unfortunately, this is the principle that most politicians and journalists serving them use today in their work.

    I can even apologize in advance to those who began to frown at my message. But, my dears, there are 2 articles nearby - one laudatory for the election, and the other for a sad date - from real life. And the bastard’s quote reveals the topic in a very interesting light. Don't you find?
  7. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 26 February 2018 09: 42
    +1
    Dear Elena! Your comparison is fundamentally incorrect! Time duration is not the most important factor! If you know the story, then remember the centenary war. Do not need excessive pathos.
  8. Glory1974
    Glory1974 26 February 2018 10: 04
    +2
    a People's Tribunal will be created.

    It is high time to create it and even condemn at least in absentia for committing war crimes. As soon as I fell into my hands, immediately into the jail. To steal a few people and defiantly condemn. Then others will think about the Geneva Conventions and the rules of warfare.
  9. glum
    glum 26 February 2018 11: 22
    +1
    the national tribunal will judge, or maybe on the contrary, over time, they will condemn the national tribunal created by zahar ????
  10. Antares
    Antares 26 February 2018 11: 40
    +2
    Emotional article. Another from Elena Gromova.
    Emotions are usually to blame for everything Ukraine / junta ....
    And in this situation there are many initiators.
    APU fired ambulance near Dokuchaevsk. As a result of this atrocity, three people died - a driver, a medical instructor and a wounded DPR soldier who was taken to the hospital.

    Of course, you can’t shoot at ambulances (morally, physically, of course, a person can do anything). I still remember the discussions about the executions of cars with red crosses, because they carry weapons for the Armed Forces (such deceitful things).
    about the information war, ours also sorted out this situation with Oise (not a specialist in technology but it was interesting to read)
    https://www.ostro.org/general/society/news/542750
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    But not the point. There are many crimes in the war. But why are all of them Elena linked exclusively to Ukraine?
    Elena Gromova - do you know such a victim of this war?

    Sabina Galitskaya. Sergeant, senior nurse of the reception and sorting department of the medical company of the 10th separate mountain assault brigade. They killed “Beauty (they called her that)” on February 20 at 15:30 in the area of ​​responsibility of a separate tactical group “Lugansk”, on the front line direct hit anti-tank guided missiles in our BRDM. Three days before 23, when the UAZ was shot.
    On February 20, in the village of Katerinovka, Sabina helped local residents. Basically, it was medication help. In ours (there were four of them), an anti-tank missile hit. Two got a shell shock, the third "three hundredth", and Sabina died. Her legs were severely slashed, a splinter hit her head. They tried to save her, but the wound was fatal.

    In general, she repeated the fate of Natalia Khorunzhey.
    But Elena Gromova will not write about them. Well this is it .. "representatives of the bloody junta" ..
    but for me they are all victims of this war (both those in the UAZ and those in the BRDM and in the trenches and in armored vehicles and in peaceful houses) ...
    Elena incites hatred for one side. Ukrainian media and because of Galitskaya- hatred of the enemy ...
    As a result, we have an eye for an eye. I would not be surprised if the UAZ is true, and he was shot for Sabina.
    We ourselves produce mutual hatred.
    1. elenagromova
      26 February 2018 12: 12
      +8
      And the poor youngsters of the fascists killed the young guys ... Well, except that Hitler did not greatly welcome the participation of women.
      Let them be removed from the land of Donbass, that's what. Residents of the DNI and LC are dying in their own land.
      1. Sam_gosling
        Sam_gosling 26 February 2018 22: 41
        +1
        So the speaker above talked about medical girl. Parry, please.
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 26 February 2018 16: 42
      +5
      Quote: Antares
      Emotions are usually to blame for everything Ukraine / junta ....

      Well, the organizers of crime are the West. Maidan Ukraine is the executors. Are the perpetrators guilty? Of course.
      Quote: Antares
      about the information war, ours also sorted out this situation with Oise

      If you associate yourself with Maidan Ukraine, then you are an accomplice in crimes.
      And then how do you understand, if you are against the West’s occupation of the former Ukraine, then what are these “ours”? And if Maidan Ukraine that arose during the coup is “yours,” then why do you deny the right to Donbass citizens not to obey Maidan coup d'etat.
      You organized a new statehood, you gave independence to the West - this is your business. But it is up to the people of Donbass to decide whether they want to live in this "new statehood" of yours.
      If they don’t want to, leave Donbass and live as you want.
      1. Sam_gosling
        Sam_gosling 26 February 2018 22: 45
        0
        Do you think the medical staff are “performers”? Those who treat both their own and those of strangers and a peaceful man are not sparing their belly.
      2. Antares
        Antares 26 February 2018 23: 09
        0
        Quote: Odyssey
        Well, the organizers of crime are the West. Maidan Ukraine is the executors. Are the perpetrators guilty? Of course.

        There is no such West / East. There are specific people, partners call each other. They are not only from the West. I know a couple of these from the east. So, Ukraine / Maidan / Junta / Poroshenko is to blame for everything. In war it is urgently necessary to take one side and support it strictly. There the enemy is a friend. To kill everyone there, save everything here. This is the usual psychology of war.
        Quote: Odyssey
        If you associate yourself with Maidan Ukraine, then you are an accomplice in crimes.

        For me, there is no "Maidan, Maidan, Post Maidan Super Maidan, Hyper Maidan of Ukraine." There is Ukraine and all. Associate me - if you want - this is your position. Not mine. I do not consider you an enemy. It’s foreign to me to consider someone an adversary. We are not in the trenches.
        I asked a specific question - the murder of a doctor can be similar to the shooting of an UAZ *? And as a result, even more warming up of mutual hatred? If you read the Ukrainian press, then your "Elena Gromovs" described this cruel episode of this war. And I assure you that these murders are very hardening people.
        And they poured on me a tub of politoty - they say it’s their own fault ... Maidan, and so on ...
        I know that the guns there (at the front) are more eloquent than all that can be said here.
        As for the medic, I’m sorry for Sabin. But for this "Elena Gromova" (military propagandists) there will be no opportunity to describe about her. For this is the enemy and there is no pity for him. And he is a priori to blame for everything.
        The harsh logic of war. If you aren’t you. And it doesn’t matter who you are: a girl, a medic, a fighter, an officer ... and what kind of crosses on your car ... red or white ...
        1. Scud
          Scud 27 February 2018 00: 54
          +1
          Actually, entk ukkromedik rode in the battle zone in an armored car, see 1 + 1.
        2. Odysseus
          Odysseus 27 February 2018 04: 44
          +3
          Quote: Antares
          I do not consider you an enemy. It’s foreign to me to consider someone an adversary. We are not in the trenches.

          Residents of Maidan Ukraine (and you in particular) have very ridiculous self-blinding about their place in the universe. Enemies in the West, enemies in Russia are among those who play along with “Western Partners”. The enemy is the subject of action.
          Residents of Maidan Ukraine are an object. It’s just a senseless cannon fodder that their Western owners have successfully utilized in various ways for 4 years in a row. To say that they are “enemies” is the same as saying that for Octavian Augustus (this is such a Roman emperor) the enemy was not Mark Anthony, but his slaves dying for the glory of their master.
          Quote: Antares
          I asked a specific question - the murder of a doctor can be similar to the shooting of an UAZ *?

          Of course not. This medic was a serviceman of the occupying forces conducting an illegal (even by the Maidan laws) terrorist war against Donbass. This is a war criminal. Subject to trial.
          This is the same as comparing Dr. Mengele with Soviet doctors.
          Quote: Antares
          For me, there is no "Maidan, Maidan, Post Maidan Super Maidan, Hyper Maidan of Ukraine." There is Ukraine and all.

          You just blabber the question and try to evade responsibility.
          Everything is simple - if you are against the Maidan coup d'état, then you are for the Donbass fighting against the Maidan of Ukraine.
          If you are in favor of a coup d'etat this is your business, but then you must let go of Donbass, for there is no reason for Donbass to submit to the rebels.
          But if you are for a coup and forcibly want to force the inhabitants of Donbass to live as you want, then you are already a criminal.
          They repeated to you many times (and you pretend that you do not notice this) - leave the Donbass and then live as you like and be happy. Lick your boots even in the USA, even in Burkina Faso.
        3. elenagromova
          27 February 2018 12: 25
          0
          Do not compare me with those who support the other side.
          I don’t compare myself with Ehrenburg, but ... Your comparison is like if you were comparing Ehrenburg and some Hitler propagandist.
          I even feel sorry for this nurse humanly. Like the opera singer, about whom I, by the way, wrote an article, wishing that he had so stupidly ruined his talent.
          But the situations are different. Ours did not shoot, it is known that they were ambulances.
    3. iouris
      iouris 27 February 2018 13: 55
      0
      Quote: Antares
      We ourselves produce mutual hatred.

      No, not yourself. The fact of the matter is that not themselves. Look for someone who benefits.
  11. PupkinSon
    PupkinSon 26 February 2018 22: 15
    +5
    When the Maidan rode on February 23, we all worked in the Donbass. The golden eagle is a pity - the kingdom to them all is heaven, but still for us this war began in Odessa on May 2. They burned women and children in front of the whole country, and all evil spirits clapped their hands. Cried hard, probably not one, wiped his face and went to the militia ...
    1. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 27 February 2018 13: 00
      +2
      This "pan-antares" cannot be understood
  12. worms
    worms 26 February 2018 22: 50
    +1
    heh, the author is strange ... where does the Second World War ?? there is a clear civil war ... and civil wars, oh, what long there are ten and twenty, and even thirty years ....
    1. megavolt823
      megavolt823 2 March 2018 15: 30
      0
      civil wars, this is a consequence of the influence of powers. through bribery and undercover activity, the country is brought to revolution. and civil war is either a consequence or a consequence of a provoked revolution. hi
  13. Dr_engie
    Dr_engie 28 February 2018 15: 45
    0
    So Donbass unleashed this war.
    1. megavolt823
      megavolt823 3 March 2018 13: 26
      0
      Well, where did you get that? ??? there is infa that even the backstage of the Maidan made it possible to get different and all. there the story is very similar to the events of the Caucasian republics from 1989 to 1996. different hands did different things. different heads thought and said different things. Well, the local business elite too. RF after and not so active. there was interest in drawing the Russian Federation into a sluggish current conflict. did not work out. or not as they wanted. hi
  14. megavolt823
    megavolt823 2 March 2018 15: 24
    0
    by read. Comments on read. let's start? for Germany, the war lasted 10 years. for Europe 6 years. for the USSR 4 year. The main factor in the successful advance of the Red Army in Europe is the depletion of everything and everything in Europe. namely Europe and not Germany. the war in Afghanistan lasted 10 years. do not confuse full-scale war and hostilities. fighting, this action is always exhaustion. exhaustion is not only financial. but rather moral. here either one is exhausted, or others are intimidated or almost exterminated. Well, bribery, collapse, demoralization. hi
  15. worms
    worms 2 March 2018 20: 09
    0
    Quote: megavolt823
    this is a consequence of the impact of the powers

    as I understand it, you need to repent, and pay, pay, where ?? and to whom ?? probably the most affected you .... and most importantly, how to prove bribery and undercover influence ?? that's who raised the Sumerians Bandera ?? mattresses ?? Europe?? Russia?? who should pay and repent ??
    1. megavolt823
      megavolt823 3 March 2018 13: 27
      0
      treat your head and eyesight. hi
  16. worms
    worms 3 March 2018 15: 23
    0
    Quote: megavolt823
    treat your head and eyesight

    head and eyesight, and it’s exactly the same mattresses lived and rode on the Maidan, it’s exclusively mattress makers who shoot the Donbass and exclusively goiropeytsy are sitting by the Sumerians in the Rada .... or maybe you’ll even try to think about it once in your life ?? although why ?? you can only pan, think, think it’s not about you, pan about, whine and fight with children and women, and even then, with exceptional numerical superiority over these children and women ... we will send with our claims to mattresses and goyropeytsam, all the world is with you, the whole world now owes you ... fellow except for Russia .. hi
  17. ZinX
    ZinX 10 March 2018 16: 26
    0
    this is no longer a war, but a sluggish confrontation