Data on secret Russian weapons hit the media

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Over the past years, many new types of weapons have appeared in the Armed Forces of Russia, starting with modern uniforms and ending with fourth-generation submarines. Some "objects" even managed to become a household name - PAK FA and "Armata". Why?

Probably because these projects were implemented as real new Russian "concept cars", where everything turned out to be new: ideology, materials, means of defense, weapons.



In the new issue of the Military Acceptance program on the Zvezda TV channel, the authors decided to talk about a whole line of such promising concepts. These are both high-speed helicopters and heavy attack helicopters. Drones, and a new Russian aircraft carrier. But these novelties will not be the main ones in the release. The Main Directorate of Armaments - GUV will become the main one. This is a department of the Ministry of Defense, which is well known to the CIA, but few inside Russia have heard of it.

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    1. 0
      26 February 2018 16: 29
      Two "objects" even managed to become a household name - PAK FA and Armata. Why?
      Yes, apparently because there is ONE “object” and ONE “product” in this list
      1. +7
        26 February 2018 16: 54
        What pleases ... Americans still bought on the F-35 ... What else would they slip into ...
        1. +4
          26 February 2018 20: 29
          And why are you really happy? That the probable adversary has the most advanced aircraft, with enormous capabilities, including opening air defense and intercepting any enemy aircraft, with minimal risk for himself. They have already been riveted under 250 and I am sure that in the future they will be replaced by a number of aircraft, from Phantoms, F-16, F-15, to F-18 and other similar aircraft. I am still surprised at the complete indifference of local strategists about the very curious program of the USA, England and France and Israel, such as Neuron, X-47B, Taranis, there was even an article somehow. Apparently, this topic is currently being seriously promoted, intensive tests are underway, and without any special publicity. The radar visibility of these aircraft is apparently much less than that of the F-35, and how to deal with several links of such UAVs is a big question. The article, as always, is about nothing, purely to raise the spirit, but against the background of what the other side is actually developing and putting into service, it’s not even funny.
          1. +8
            27 February 2018 09: 14
            "The article, as always, is about nothing, purely so, to raise the spirit"
            Well, SPIRIT! We have it! and you have in Switzerland "Geyparady!"
          2. +5
            27 February 2018 17: 41
            They wrote a million times, and everything is numb to fools, long-wave over-the-horizon radars see invisibility like ordinary airplanes, last year we covered them with the entire perimeter (finally), missile missiles, according to their data, couldn’t be used, but it’s easy to draw attention to pvoshnikov or to intercept interceptors. But in general, it begs to rivet cheap, high-altitude drones equipped with powerful target illumination transmitters, so that our air defense and interceptors work in the passive mode for as long as possible. Firstly, moving the emitter to a high altitude will provide earlier detection of low-flying targets, secondly, an unmanned version will save on crew life support systems and protection against electromagnetic radiation, thirdly the relative simplicity of the flight control program (going to a given point, and long movement along the eight or oval) fourthly, if the product is cheap enough, you can stamp them in a sufficient number for alternating operation, which will ensure their protection against long-range anti-radar missiles induced along the beam of the emitter.
            1. 0
              3 March 2018 00: 31
              Quote: Starlei.ura
              ... But in general, it begs to rivet cheap, high-altitude drones equipped with powerful target illumination transmitters, so that our air defense and interceptors work in passive mode for as long as possible.

              ... airships, the states have these. And we also have something. Somewhere infa slipped about high-altitude drones, and even with its own electronic warfare system.
            2. 0
              23 March 2018 16: 41
              Quote: Starlei.ura
              over-the-horizon radars see invisibility as ordinary planes, last year we covered the entire perimeter (finally) with them, according to their data, missile missiles fail
              It will work out. Further guidance IC GOS and COO to exit in a given uh ... cube. Almost done already ...
              Missiles are really expensive because of the range. But sometimes it's worth it ...
          3. +2
            28 February 2018 22: 51
            why do you think that this is not the case in Russia? Just a lot of things are not advertised!
          4. +2
            1 March 2018 00: 02
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            That the probable adversary has the most advanced aircraft, with enormous capabilities, including opening air defense and intercepting any enemy aircraft, with minimal risk for himself.

            Karabas-Barabas, read the analytics. The F-35 is a crude, unfinished aircraft with good radar, but the main advantage is relative invisibility.
        2. +1
          27 February 2018 14: 37
          They also bought well and make the RD-180 out of dollars, cheaper than their cost.
          1. +2
            3 March 2018 00: 35
            Quote: Pingo
            They also bought well and make the RD-180 out of dollars, cheaper than their cost.

            Nah, RD-180 is made from Canadian foliage wassat
            1. 0
              4 March 2018 17: 13
              no out of grass
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          2. +5
            3 March 2018 18: 09
            And then we will use these dollars received for yesterday’s long-developed engines, new technologies, on the basis of which we will create even more advanced engines, which you will buy from us again and help gam develop our defense industry in this way, thank you.
            1. 0
              4 March 2018 17: 16
              lower than cost means - at a loss
              nothing better than them yet
            2. 0
              23 March 2018 16: 53
              Quote: Svidetel 45
              And then we will use these dollars received for the long-developed engines of yesterday, new technologies, on the basis of which we will create even more advanced engines.
              Your words, yes to God ...
              And then on Friend Roldug's cello may not be enough ...
    2. 0
      26 February 2018 17: 09
      The video is at least a month old. What is the delight? Just look around.
      1. 0
        26 February 2018 17: 44
        what month at the weekend "Star" twisted
      2. 0
        23 March 2018 15: 36
        it’s good for you (apparently to do cool), and some of them work and do not have time to look through everything
    3. 0
      26 February 2018 17: 11
      A video is already on every page. And physically, what?
      1. +1
        26 February 2018 18: 21
        just a lot of groundwork, and the budget is not American. you have to choose not to be far behind parity.
        1. 0
          26 February 2018 20: 38
          Quote: Lance
          and the budget is not American


          The budget is huge enough to have more output than has been shown so far. Let’s take the last 5 years, under $ 400 (which is far from everything of course) allocated for the defense .. that over the past 5 years such a breakthrough and modern put into service? Since 2014, as the sanctions were introduced and Western countries have ceased to supply technology, machines and a lot of other things, problems have gone. The fact that it is necessary to develop their own mechanical engineering, even before the sanctions, only the lazy did not say, but apart from the annual appeals and decrees, there are no cases. It’s one thing to use Soviet designs and products to turn blue, and to create another from scratch. Given the attitude of the authorities towards education and science, the gap will only widen.
          1. +1
            26 February 2018 22: 15
            yes, it’s not a matter of education and science, the fact is that nobody needs it, because they don’t “pay” for it, you just conduct an experiment, go to the website of some state-owned companies and look for information about who can get money where and if and / or inventing something useful. And then it is still advisable to check if this really works. If in the "West" it is shitty, not high-quality, with distortions and terribly expensive, but it works, then everything is the same for us on a smaller scale (financially) and DOES NOT work. You can say for a long time why and how to fix it, but it all comes down to a simple formula. In our country, the state does not "pay" money, but "gives", as a result, people and companies do not "earn" money, but "master" ....
          2. 0
            27 February 2018 12: 10
            what do you imagine, from scratch? Everyone does not work with physical processes that can and should be improved, but with iron. Therefore, it is useless to talk about the breakthrough of any of the strones. Balance must be held
          3. +1
            1 March 2018 16: 18
            Comrade all-crawler, stop whining! Since 2014, the army has been almost completely “changed, changed”, the S-400 “Triumph” is delivered as part of the air defense system, which, by the way, perfectly sees both the F-35 and the very “invisible” drones so praised by you. AK hundredth series went to the troops and equipment "Warrior", superior to NATO counterparts in most respects. If you don’t know anything about the supply of the army and the Russian Guard, then it’s better to be silent, and the man shouldn’t dissolve the snot!
        2. +1
          27 February 2018 23: 07
          We must stupidly proceed from possible threats and create inexpensive countermeasures. A bit of childhood memories. In 68-69 (I do not remember exactly) in the Far East, along with other children of the military, he was on a field trip at the naval aviation airport. We were shown the Tu-16. In short, they sat in the cockpit, held onto the helm, rode into the cabin of the second navigator on the elevator. But then the visit to the cockpit of the radar gunner in the tail of the aircraft was especially impressive. When asked how it works, a toli warrant officer, a toli sergeant, an over-conscript (I don’t remember when I was a little one), showed me how to search for targets with a locator, how they are put together with gun mounts, and how they are destroyed. In short, I don’t know for what reason, but the guns turned out to be ammunition, but in the evening I learned from my father that 5,5 km from the airfield carried a short burst of kung bread trucks (no civilian was injured). Why am I all this? On a modern element base and even on the mathematics of fire control, and with the programmer for the time of detonation of shells, with the creation of a fragmentation cloud at a certain point, an inexpensive but effective and universal thing is obtained. And now about the main threats. 1). Barmalei (i.e. international terrorists), 2). Kueva is a cloud of aerial targets during a conflict or NATO aggression (well, we don’t have that many anti-aircraft missiles and fighter aircraft, and it’s too expensive to shoot down the tomahawks with the S-500 system, and the transfer of ground-based air defense is too slow). I propose to discuss the idea. 1). It is necessary to create a universal aircraft carrier with high carrying capacity and the ability to hang in the air for as long as possible at altitudes from 10 km to 15-20 km (naturally with the possibility of refueling), there should be a well-developed system of modular equipment for armaments and equipment, automatic storage in the duty area (so that the crew rested) and compartment for 2-4 operators. In the airborne configuration, the aircraft is equipped with a radar module (due to less stringent weight and size requirements, we can get a longer range and efficiency compared to fighters), weapon modules (in terms of the number of operators) equipped with long-range, long-range, medium-range and artillery mounts. Long and ultra-long to combat aircraft, artillery and medium for drones, tamahawks, anti-aircraft missiles at the last frontier. Well, no one canceled the electronic warfare module. The main advantages: the radar sees further (placement height), missiles (and especially artillery) are cheaper and lighter (air launch), the number of ammunition on board is greater than on any interceptor squadron, the transfer speed is incomparable with ground systems. Oh yes, I forgot to provide for the possibility of these aircraft working in conjunction with AWACS aircraft (you can remove your own radar module and add missiles). In the anti-Barmalean version: optical, radar, laser guidance and detection module, weapon modules (according to the number of operators) equipped with an artillery installation (main) plus pu for firing free-falling or reactive guided ammunition for various purposes (manpower, armored and other equipment, reinforced firing points). It is stupid not to let the barmalei raise their heads from a safe distance. Advantages: low-cost high-precision ammunition, small collateral damage and loss of civilian population (small caliber and ammunition selection: fragmentation, camouflage, volume-detonating, armor-piercing, etc.), a significant reduction in losses during mopping up of territories captured by barmels, and most importantly the price of the issue (well it’s expensive to wet them with caliber, and to drive them in the desert on dryers, and here you can wet one with three shrapnel shells), well, and cover vast territories from their possible movement, and even for fighting with the pirates at sea, too fit.
    4. 0
      26 February 2018 18: 26
      The first shots, between the Tu-160 and MIG-31BM, a curious model stands. Drone? And between the Su-35 and the Shell-SA, also some kind of aircraft that looks like a transporter. Choi, I do not recall such a shape in our VKS.
      1. 0
        26 February 2018 19: 10
        The first is probably the layout of the PAK YES
    5. +5
      26 February 2018 20: 31
      "GUV" A unit that has long been known in the CIA. About which many in our country have not heard
      wassat laughing -In the 2nd minute. As I have always liked since the days of the USSR: In this phrase, everything is ours. Secret from their citizens. good
    6. 0
      26 February 2018 20: 59
      A super movie, one might say historical, Those who watch it will raise pride for their country, for scientists, designers, workers, for the president of Russia.
      1. 0
        12 March 2018 13: 14
        SUPERrolik for super-teapots who have never had the appropriate technical training and have never been a military pro ..... Tales are told to you precisely by those who compose these tales, they do not have experience of military service! What can they check and what can they offer? In the video, Borisov said that in the modern war the one who first discovered wins .... And then everything else and the last in this chain are precision weapons ... We have modern precision weapons, but we don’t know how to DETECT the enemy .. ..We do not have modern Combat Information Systems !!! Let these boobies learn to prioritize ..... We are in full ass in the usual non-nuclear weapons and our superweapon does not know where to shoot, cannot find the target .... Everything is only visually, everything is due to the unnecessary death of people on the “front”. ... like in Syria ....
    7. +1
      27 February 2018 08: 43
      No, well, I don’t play like that, they took all the data, the secret ones were disclosed, who should I keep secret with? AND?
      1. 0
        12 March 2018 13: 27
        Useless, advertising noodles are hung on your ears .... But you don’t see anything in it, it not only blocks your eyes, but also your brains ....
    8. Urs
      0
      27 February 2018 09: 35
      Ha and we finally do not know much.
      Weapons and uniforms for the soldier of the future, and the real soldier still walks in kirzach.
      And at school, these future soldiers are far from being clever, the education system is not aimed at developing intelligence. Who will operate and repair these nyashki defense defense.
      For whom is all this invented by HZ.
      I wonder what the budget of this Central Research Institute is and they have at least once seen a normal normal real soldier.
      The topic is complex and huge, and one little article is finally not even a drop, but a speck of dust in this sea that is not known.
      1. +1
        27 February 2018 16: 09
        In terms of!??!? Smart women like you are! So you will repair, and use the necessary weapons ... Do not know how? Senior will teach. If you don’t want to, it’s far from being clever ... The gunner is very simple. Uniqueness and otmazaniye in the event of the outbreak of hostilities with global mobilization - will evaporate and will come an analogue of the NKVD, which will shoot the dissenters left and right. Not the first time ... For you, dear ones and invented 8)
        1. 0
          12 March 2018 13: 33
          It will not help, the modern penal battalion will not even have time to see the enemy, the time of the Second World War is over, only our degenerates with general shoulder straps cannot understand this, and there is nothing to understand ... Gerasimov, Borisov are solid intellectuals ....
    9. +1
      28 February 2018 22: 17
      Please excuse me, but our science is still ahead
    10. 0
      1 March 2018 11: 52
      The computer concept does not work. Sagal-Chubais’s mobile phone will never get to the Kremlin ... We won’t be able to create a high-speed railway, not even to Tibet, at least to Ryazan ... Airplanes fall regularly ... And why do we need a superweapon? What shall we protect them?
      1. +4
        3 March 2018 00: 41
        Quote: Gennady Fedorov
        The computer concept does not work. Sagal-Chubais’s mobile phone will never get to the Kremlin ... We won’t be able to create a high-speed railway, not even to Tibet, at least to Ryazan ... Airplanes fall regularly ... And why do we need a superweapon? What shall we protect them?

        We will protect the brains from the “all-weeping” trolls from Langley tongue laughing
    11. +1
      28 March 2018 09: 52
      Common - is it because they are good, or because they participate only a little in parades and production is postponed from year to year?

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