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The chief designer of VAZ, who created the "eight" and "Niva"

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At the age of 83 years, the former AvtoVAZ chief designer Georgy Mirzoev passed away.


The chief designer of VAZ, who created the "eight" and "Niva"


Mirzoyev served as chief designer from 1976 to 1998 year.

“Georgy Konstantinovich took part in the development and launch of many cars in the series, without which the automotive industry of the USSR and Russia is just unthinkable: UAZ-452, UAZ-469, VAZ-2121 Niva, VAZ-2105 ... One of the main victories of Mirzoyev is considered to be one of the main victories VAZ-2108, which has now become a cult "eight", at one time launched a new era of domestic motorism. And then there were the VAZ-2110, "Samara-2", VAZ-1111 "Oka", VAZ-2123 (now - Chevrolet Niva), VAZ-1119 "Kalina" families, Tolyati news.

Leaving the post of chief designer, Mirzoev launched the LADA Antel fuel cell project at AtoVAZ, and subsequently the CNG series fuel cars, and finally, after Mirzoyev’s retirement, embodied by his associates in the LADA Vesta CNG production car .

Georgy Konstantinovich is the author of several scientific papers on the theory, design and calculation of the car.

Mirzoev, a professor of technical sciences and a member of SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers), was a talented teacher, charging his passion for designing hundreds, thousands of students of different generations in Moscow and Togliatti.

In recent years, Georgy Mirzoev has been actively engaged in the development of alternative-fuel automobiles.
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  1. Imh
    Imh 25 February 2018 13: 01
    +40
    He was once young. There was a figure eight. I want to report, VAZ 2108 beautiful car, never failed. I am sure that this man was a repainted engineer, and no less good-looking man, who gave generations of Russians decent cars, for the first time in the history of the USSR / Russia. ז״ל- Zikhion of Le Vraha (Blessed Memory).
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 25 February 2018 13: 03
      +23
      Quote: IMH
      ... Was once young. There was a figure eight ...

      The legendary "chisel" with a long wing good
      1. Imh
        Imh 25 February 2018 13: 04
        +7
        It is owned. Great car, the best memories.
        1. Giant thought
          Giant thought 25 February 2018 13: 06
          +21
          The best monument for this ingenious man is that his creations still run along our roads. Eternal memory to him!
          1. Imh
            Imh 25 February 2018 13: 11
            +13
            Yes, they still run to this day.
            1. Imh
              Imh 25 February 2018 13: 13
              +12
              We still have a lot of them. In the 90s, people were brought from the USSR.

          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 25 February 2018 13: 34
            +12
            My matchmaker (79 years old) cuts into eight, says that he doesn’t need all the foreign technology ... He says: "I can repair my own swallow, but all these computers with wheels are not for me." In his garage in the country there is still a “penny” (21011). Slightly rotten rapids, but still on track. Can't decide to sell. Says: "I went on it for so many years, it's like selling a faithful horse"
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 25 February 2018 14: 02
              +3
              Quote: Piramidon
              He says: "I can repair my own swallow, but all these computers with wheels are not for me."
              Does he have the experience of operating a foreign car? I just know from my friends who once also ostentatiously continued to ride Zhiguli, while people bought Toyota in large numbers in the early 90s (I’m from Vlad if that). As a result, one way or another, having tested the Japanese, it’s already hard to land on a Lada.
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 25 February 2018 14: 07
                +7
                Quote: Greenwood
                Does he have the experience of operating a foreign car?

                Maybe that’s why it is biased against foreign cars because, in addition to the “penny” and “eight,” it didn’t operate other cars. Well, in principle, why bow to a service center if you can do everything yourself and you like the car?
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 25 February 2018 14: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  why bow to a service center if you can do everything yourself and you like the car?
                  In fairness, in the Japanese something does not break so often to attend a car service. Get yourself scheduled maintenance, replacing fluids and consumables, and that's it.
                  1. Hagalaz
                    Hagalaz 25 February 2018 14: 24
                    +11
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    why bow to a service center if you can do everything yourself and you like the car?
                    In fairness, in the Japanese something does not break so often to attend a car service. Get yourself scheduled maintenance, replacing fluids and consumables, and that's it.

                    What you are talking about is a thing of the past. The quality of all imports, including Japanese, is gradually and purposefully deteriorating.
              2. woron333444
                woron333444 25 February 2018 14: 31
                +7
                Greenwood After Nissan-Vanetta I go to 2115. Nissan Felts fell bad, felts have a great tag. On Nissan for 11 years, 50 thousand km and 4 engine kapitalki. On the tag for 9 years 150 thousand km and only the front struts changed to 90 thousand.
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 26 February 2018 04: 49
                  0
                  Two questions: what made me transfer to AvtoVAZ after the Japanese? Why did you change the minibus to a sedan?
                  1. woron333444
                    woron333444 26 February 2018 15: 26
                    0
                    On Nissan for 11 years, 50 thousand km and 4 engine kapitalki.

                    In short, he got me. Before that, there was a six export. I regretted that I sold it. And Nissan was diesel, and in winter the diesel fuel froze.
        2. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 25 February 2018 13: 08
          +5
          The kingdom of heaven and eternal memory.
          Condolences to relatives, friends ..
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 25 February 2018 13: 22
            +12
            Quote: Hoc vince
            The kingdom of heaven and eternal memory.
            Condolences to relatives, friends ..

            Everlasting memory ! Steel people leave the era of the USSR!
            Now, of course, many mock on the bones .. But our car industry was very at the level ..! The essence was simplicity and maintainability in difficult conditions ..!
            You gentlemen, you don’t even know. what is a candle to clean and change the wheel .. and to seal the camera hehe hehe
            And the engine was disassembled, only on the Internet they saw it and not all ..
            A generation of degradation .. angry
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 14: 19
              +5
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Everlasting memory ! Steel people leave the era of the USSR!

              Alas, people of that era after 1991 were quickly wiped from real leadership work. “Effective managers” came to replace them, both home-grown and imported, and we have what we have.
        3. Andrey K
          Andrey K 25 February 2018 13: 14
          +10
          Quote: IMH
          ... A wonderful car, the best memories ...

          I agree with you.
          Earth rest in peace to the creator of this masterpiece.
          He worked, and thanks to him, we have something to remember.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 14: 14
            +1
            Quote: Andrey K
            He worked, and thanks to him, we have something to remember.

            When the G2000 was being developed, there were XNUMX people under the leadership of Mirzoyev.
            This is from his deputies to the cleaners. This is according to the design of the car and its tests. And many hundreds of people at VAZ, at other factories of the USSR and in a dozen foreign countries, from Germany to Japan, worked on the technology of manufacturing a car.
            The Chief Designer does not develop a car (tank, plane, rocket, etc.). He makes and approves decisions on key issues and coordinates the work.
            Although Mirzoyev loved to get into various little things not according to rank and was ready to listen to anyone, starting with a young specialist who had not worked for a year.
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 25 February 2018 14: 20
              +8
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              ... When the G2000 was being developed, under the leadership of Mirzoyev there were XNUMX people ...

              A colleague, all people are adults and are well aware that he himself did not stand at the culman and in the foundry, he did not pull out blanks from the flask hi
            2. garnik
              garnik 25 February 2018 16: 31
              +1
              .
              The Chief Designer does not develop a car (tank, plane, rocket, etc.). He makes and approves decisions on key issues and coordinates the work.

              So Kurchatov created the Soviet atomic bomb. And Korolev launched rockets into space.
        4. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 13: 47
          +1
          Quote: IMH
          Great car, the best memories.

          I remember how many slops poured onto the VAZ-2108 after the start of its production .... The sea is poured ...
        5. san4es
          san4es 25 February 2018 15: 13
          +1
          Quote: IMH
          Great car, the best memories.

          ... Half an hour of history (creation) soldier

          ... and modernity
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 25 February 2018 13: 29
      +3
      Quote: IMH
      I am sure that this man was a repainted engineer, and no less good-looking man, who gave generations of Russians decent cars, for the first time in the history of the USSR /

      About the "first" and argue is possible, but not necessary now. But the "loaf" and the "commander" is a thing, I’ll say a banal truth. Resource "Niva" in general, no one counted, wow and beast.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2018 15: 46
        +3
        I don’t want to defame the name of the designer (peace be upon him), but the piston and the lotus took part in the development of the “chisel” ...
    3. Berkut154
      Berkut154 25 February 2018 18: 23
      +3
      + color wet asphalt and a dream come true!
  2. andrewkor
    andrewkor 25 February 2018 13: 02
    +9
    As far as I know, Niva at the time it was launched into production in 1977. had no analogues in the world! Or am I wrong?
    1. Imh
      Imh 25 February 2018 13: 04
      +9
      Partly you are right - VAZ 2121 “Niva” was a pioneer in the class of urban SUVs, today referred to as the “crossover”.
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 25 February 2018 15: 50
        +2
        Is this Niva a crossover? Do you even know the difference between a crossover and a full-fledged SUV?
        R.S. I have the first issue of the 81st, the second of the 96th, now the 11th. All three are still on track. It is for information only. hi
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 15: 59
          +4
          Quote: Svarog51

          0
          Svarog51 Today, 15:50 PM ↑ New
          Is this Niva a crossover? Do you even know the difference between a crossover and a full-fledged SUV?

          Niva, of course, a "rogue" and not a "SUV." But it is also true that Niva is the progenitor of all current crossovers.
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 25 February 2018 16: 15
            0
            Peter, welcome hi I wanted to say that NIVA is an SUV. SUVs are so named - because ALL SUVs.
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2018 17: 34
          +1
          Quote: Svarog51
          Is this Niva a crossover? Do you even know the difference between a crossover and a full-fledged SUV?

          "Niva" - frostbitten "jeepyara" - no more no less!
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 25 February 2018 18: 12
            +1
            Figures, with a normal stove in winter, you can ride in shorts. Just warm up and have no problems with fuel. The volume of the body is small, heats up quickly.
          2. Svarog51
            Svarog51 25 February 2018 19: 34
            +3
            "Niva" - frostbitten "jeepyara" - no more no less!

            Here, admire the frostbitten Nivovoda.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 25 February 2018 13: 12
      +6
      Moreover, Niva was supplied to more than one hundred countries of the world. Eternal memory to the designer, and Kosygin, at the same time.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 13: 50
        +7
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Moreover, Niva was supplied to more than one hundred countries of the world. Eternal memory to the designer, and Kosygin, at the same time.

        Moreover, the Japanese bought 50 pcs of Nivs, researched, tested and used everything rational in their 4 by 4. And then they were not at all embarrassed to talk about it.
        1. Imh
          Imh 25 February 2018 13: 56
          +4
          What you're talking about is the first Suzuki Vitara.
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 14: 22
            +9
            Quote: IMH
            What you're talking about is the first Suzuki Vitara.

            Well, Suzuki Vitara, from the words of her Chief Designer, is generally a constructive copy of the Niva.
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 16: 11
        0
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Eternal memory to the designer, and Kosygin, at the same time.

        The organizational decision on the production of the Niva, the merit of Polyakov, the first director of VAZ, then the Minister of Automotive Industry. The design of the Niva, to a decisive extent, was the creation of Prusov Pyotr Mikhailovich, at that time, the head of the general layout department.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 February 2018 16: 21
          0
          Didn’t Kosygin ask for a car for the villagers?
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 21: 17
            +1
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Didn’t Kosygin ask for a car for the villagers?

            You can ask for a new car without allocating money as much as you like, but developing and putting into production without financing is completely different.
            True, others paid for the production of Niva - buyers of VAZ cars. The fact is that for the production of the Niva, they used cases and equipment designed to produce spare parts. This was Polyakov’s decision. So the flip side of this scheme is nightmares with spare parts for VAZ cars, which were also operated all the time and are close to many times exceeding the assigned resource of 100.000 km. Basically, here comes the legend about the disastrous quality of VAZ cars.
  3. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 25 February 2018 13: 07
    +2
    the Kingdom of heaven!
    and I recently thought about our Soviet designers and about our car industry!
    I thought: how good it was in the union of designers: let out what you want, whatever you want quality. report victories. people will buy it anyway. and now that people would choose our car. you need to make it such that at least it is not inferior to imports!
    1. Imh
      Imh 25 February 2018 13: 08
      +9
      In general, you are right, but the VAZ 2108/09/99 at one time was at the level of the global automotive industry.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 25 February 2018 13: 24
        +5
        Quote: IMH
        In general, you are right, but the VAZ 2108/09/99 at one time was at the level of the global automotive industry.

        And not only, there were a lot of ideas in the design plan too ... They strangled our auto industry!
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 25 February 2018 13: 27
        0
        Quote: IMH
        In general, you are right, but the VAZ 2108/09/99 at one time was at the level of the global automotive industry.

        There was a case, our driver knocked over the Lawn, it is also called Pipok Sanya then for the first time in his life he fastened his seat belt. He pulled out the passenger and drove that Pipka, and then everything broke out.
      3. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 25 February 2018 13: 39
        +4
        So together with Porsche developed. The Vazovskaya door handle on Porsche is a simple fit, sort of. I didn’t stick it myself, I won’t whistle.
      4. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 14: 01
        +3
        Quote: IMH
        In general, you are right, but the VAZ 2108/09/99 at one time was at the level of the global automotive industry.

        Yes they were. But then, pretty quickly, they lagged behind him. Our big-bellied boys didn’t hear that after 3-4 years the model was being upgraded over the hill. Get some Volkswagen Golf. After each iteration, he received a new number -2, 3, 4, 5, etc. Moreover, this was done in a budget way - production equipment requires replacement once every 3-4 years. It was under this change, and the elimination of stocks and the satisfaction of emerging requests and new components and a new design. The cost of updating was quite comparable with the cost of reproduction of the old equipment. But the effect of investing money is completely different. Our leaders in the automobile industry could not learn this simple truth until the demise of the USSR.
      5. Greenwood
        Greenwood 25 February 2018 14: 07
        +1
        Was there an automatic transmission, climate control, air conditioning, heated windows, power windows, adjustable steering wheel seats, a stereo system with support for audio cassettes and CDs? I suspect not. But in the 1986 Toyota Carib of my uncle, bought in the midst of perestroika, all this was.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 14: 33
          +6
          Quote: Greenwood
          Was there an automatic transmission, climate control, air conditioning, heated windows, power windows, adjustable steering wheel seats, a stereo system with support for audio cassettes and CDs? I suspect not. But in the 1986 Toyota Carib of my uncle, bought in the midst of perestroika, all this was.

          Demand creates supply. If there is a demand for rich equipment - please.
          Ford Escort in the base cost $ 13, and the maximum configuration is 000.
          Volkswagen Golf-4 in the base of 12 dollars, and the maximum configuration of 000.
          We had a lot of people who wanted to pay an extra 2-3 prices for the base car for extra pribludy?
          On the VAZ-2108/9, there was a complete set of heated windows, power windows, air conditioning. Under the audio system there was a standard place with wiring.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2018 15: 52
            +2
            I’m traveling and not worried, for many years ... guess ...
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 25 February 2018 16: 22
              +1
              Yurich, welcome hi But what about fishing and mushrooms? recourse

              I have a third - 21214, before that 21213, and even earlier than 2121.
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2018 16: 41
                +1
                Quote: Svarog51
                Yurich, I welcome And what about fishing

                Hello! and friends with "cornfields" why? wink
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 25 February 2018 17: 02
                  0
                  and friends with "cornfields" why?

                  Is this an invitation? wink
                  1. Andrey Yuryevich
                    Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2018 17: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: Svarog51
                    and friends with "cornfields" why?

                    Is this an invitation? wink

                    there is no other way! drinks
                    1. Svarog51
                      Svarog51 25 February 2018 18: 16
                      0
                      there is no other way!

                      That's why Partizan, Izya, and Stroybat surprised you. My fellow soldiers are my friends. soldier drinks
            2. garnik
              garnik 25 February 2018 16: 44
              +2
              It looks like a vaz 2112. I have 21124 (the Milky Way), 200 thousand traveled, it is necessary to put on kapitalku. The children are ashamed of me, but I feel sorry for parting with her. There is still Barguzin, I just can’t decide.
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2018 16: 47
                +3
                Quote: garnik
                It looks like a vaz 2112. I have 21124 (milky way) the same

                "ten" ... 114th motor, 1.6, 8kl - "beast" ... and yes - "little milk"! I beat myself (I'm lying, others beat everything). I rule it myself, I paint it myself. living soul to soul ... wink
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 25 February 2018 18: 19
                  +1
                  "ten"

                  Had to help out. I don’t pass by. wink drinks
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          2. Greenwood
            Greenwood 26 February 2018 04: 53
            +2
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            Demand creates supply. If there is a demand for rich equipment - please.
            In the Japanese, all this is included in the base and is not presented as something mega-limit, for which you have to pay extra.
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            We had a lot of people who wanted to pay an extra 2-3 prices for the base car for extra pribludy?
            In Vlad, everything was much simpler.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 February 2018 16: 32
          +1
          Read The Wheels by A. Haley.
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 16: 26
      +1
      Quote: K.A.S.
      I thought: how good it was in the union of designers: let out what you want, whatever you want quality. report victories

      It is a pity that you did not happen to be in the shoes of the Soviet designer. What is there to envy? Beggarly salary? Or a Procrustean bed of darkness and darkness of all kinds of restrictions?
      The size of the car and engine size was limited by the Ministry of Automotive Industry. The volume of novelty and technical level determines, first of all, the amount of money allocated for the development and production setting. Money for each new model had to be requested from the Minavtoprom, Sovmin, Gosplan and the Central Committee of the CPSU. Anyone could hack a project or emasculate it by cutting the budget. Like, you have 20 kopecks and don’t deny yourself anything. And make a model that matches the world level - that would be comfortable like a Mercedes, fast like a BMW and cheap like a FIAT.
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 25 February 2018 13: 12
    +4
    And again out of place rating fool am !
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 February 2018 13: 41
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And again out of place rating fool am !

      Unfortunately, there is a general design of the site, and it is not possible to change it for each specific post, or for the requirements of each user. So, you just need to understand the technology, not to be indignant and not to spend your nerve cells. Understand and accept for granted. hi
  5. garnik
    garnik 25 February 2018 13: 15
    +6
    I remember back in 1986, on the grounds of the Vientorg in Chirchik, eights stood under the snow, and sevens under the canopy. The people were not yet familiar with the front-wheel drive car and were in no hurry with the acquisition, although they could be bought almost without a queue compared to the "classics."
    A worthy son of his people. Rest in peace. Ohhhh.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 25 February 2018 13: 16
    +4
    I just degenerate condolences to all his relatives, friends, colleagues! His "Niva" really was at one time a revolutionary car that created a new class of auto-passenger SUVs! hi
  7. samarin1969
    samarin1969 25 February 2018 13: 24
    +2
    Good Memory to the Designer and worthy successors to the VAZ.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 25 February 2018 13: 51
      +7
      Yes, there will be no followers unfortunately. Heels are closed, techie is one fiction. And on the VAZ there is one “screwdriver”. CEC is poher, STC is the same fiction. crying
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 25 February 2018 14: 04
        +5
        Sorry, damn it. The car repairman himself, at the ZiL branch began.
      2. Fox
        Fox 25 February 2018 14: 08
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And on the VAZ there is one “screwdriver”. CEC is poher, STC is the same fiction.

        it's true, zema ... it’s a shame for the KVC ... by the way, the goalkeeper of the national team is Koshechkin, my father worked at the KVC ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 25 February 2018 14: 11
          +4
          Quote: Fox
          at the goalkeeper of the national team-Koshechkin

          By the way, with a victory! drinks The only thing that looked at the Olympics was our hockey.
      3. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Yes, there will be no followers unfortunately. Heels are closed, techie is one fiction. And on the VAZ there is one “screwdriver”. CEC is poher, STC is the same fiction. crying

        After the transfer of the VAZ to Renault control, the defeat of the plant and its Russian suppliers began. And this despite the fact that Renault does not have a controlling stake in VAZ.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 25 February 2018 14: 55
          +1
          Quote: Captain Pushkin
          that Renault does not have a controlling stake in VAZ.

          Now has. hi
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 21: 29
            0
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            that Renault does not have a controlling stake in VAZ.

            Now has. hi

            It doesn’t. There is a tricky scheme. VAZ shares were transferred to the management of the Horn and Hoof company, which has nothing but a sign and costs three kopecks, cheaper than its sign, but Renault has a controlling stake in these Horns and K.
        2. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 25 February 2018 16: 47
          +2
          I will not argue about the defeat of the vase and its suppliers. just see the result. X Ray and Vest!, the defeat had to be arranged earlier! because we can make cars from which managers of Solaris and other farts vomit from rabies!
          1. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 21: 33
            +2
            Quote: K.A.S.
            I will not argue about the defeat of the vase and its suppliers. just see the result. X Ray and Vest!, the defeat had to be arranged earlier! because we can make cars from which managers of Solaris and other farts vomit from rabies!

            X Ray and Vest could and should have been developed and produced without Renault. But our fellow citizens would have had work and taxes would go to the budget of Russia, and not to the budgets of Turkey and Romania.
            1. K.A.S.
              K.A.S. 25 February 2018 21: 42
              +1
              have already developed viburnum and Prior. stop experimenting. if Renault can make cars then let them do it!
              And now, what makes West and X Ray not our citizens?
              and taxes are not going to our budget?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 26 February 2018 07: 28
                +2
                Quote: K.A.S.
                And now, what makes West and X Ray not our citizens?

                These machines are more than half imported.
                Quote: K.A.S.
                have already developed viburnum

                Why is viburnum bad? Reliable car, and so much prettier Renault KLIO. request
                Quote: K.A.S.
                then let them do it!

                If someone else’s aunt is prettier than mother, does this mean that she is better than mother? wink
  8. faiver
    faiver 25 February 2018 13: 33
    +1
    Earth rest in peace
  9. Thirsty for wind
    Thirsty for wind 25 February 2018 13: 44
    +1
    The body is perishable, and thought is eternal. I am sorry for the lost, I grieve for the departed, I believe in the happiness of his soul.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 25 February 2018 13: 51
    +2
    And the chisel was normal, the car went like that, but because the fisherman moved to "Niva" a lot of trouble with her, but as a wagon she was in good such a new identity will be.
    Thanks to the talented man for his work!
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 25 February 2018 16: 12
      +2
      Victor, welcome hi
      Thanks to the talented man for his work!

      I join in condolences.
      NIVA of the first issues has a weak spot - crosses. Reinforced problem solved partially. The last problem was solved - vibration was removed in some modes. But in patency she lost. IMHO.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 February 2018 17: 42
        +1
        hello, Sergey soldier

        And then I put Kherson crosspieces, they walked like that ... the most important thing is not to forget syringes after extreme sports and the norms work!
        I myself have always done cars, respectively. I understand spare parts!
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 25 February 2018 18: 33
          +1
          I share my experience: for 2121 crosses are “cheap”, once a year all five are replaced. At 21213 - reinforced - for six years, replaced once. At 21214 - have never changed. The intensity of the ride is about the same, although the latter has slightly increased. What is your NIWA?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 25 February 2018 18: 51
            +1
            Now there is a CHEVI, sold 21214 - it was a do-it-yourself designer with a Moscow universal joint in front !!! When I was repairing it for the first time, I was at a dead end. HOW TO DO IT? The rear axle from the Chevy, the hub from 2121 !!!
            When I started to repair that car, I had to do a separate detailing, by the way the razdatka identity also failed - large-toothed, I had to rearrange it from the previous 21213!
            In short, the most dreary typewriter I had !!!
            I remember nine with nostalgia! There was a unique car - most of the units with the label SIGN OF QUALITY! In fact, the resource at the nodes was good !!! I changed the first grenade after 130 km, I never met this again!
            To CHEVI I will take something easier, new and for a long time, because pension on the nose and will not be up to fat!
            By the way, I want a new electric motorcycle !!!
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 25 February 2018 19: 13
              +1
              By the way, I want a new electric motorcycle !!!

              Think about how you will charge in the forest?
              You are not lucky with Niva. Chevy is a fake. And most importantly - to become a NIVOVOD - not a pound of raisins to crack. Then change the whole system in my head about driving. Niva has one trouble - there is no lateral blocking. But now they have already released some sort of piers to fix this troubles.
              On my chassis completely from the Chevy, already "ran into" the repair.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 25 February 2018 19: 52
                +1
                We have sunny places, I have a solar power station. Buy a compact folding! The new generation is very sales. The main thing here is not to be stingy once, with good KPD select. This is real right now and the quality of the panels is improving markedly.
                For a car, of course, it’s early, but the motorcycle will be pulled.
                Here it’s such a thing, it’s easier to get rid of the skimmers on a motzik, he recognized everything on the paths and they won’t catch you!
                I have a weakness for cancers, I know how to catch and at least have plenty to eat on the tail! Welding to retirement, however, is an expensive product that many love.
                And I will sell CHAMBERS, not mine and a lot of trouble. I'll take the usual, new. A familiar case, with proper care will serve.
                By the way, Dutch "NOVA" put crosses on a simple NIVA, they were not serviced but went for a long time, they did not creak to the end and they kept the speed standards.
                1. Svarog51
                  Svarog51 25 February 2018 20: 12
                  +1
                  Here it’s such a thing, it’s easier to get rid of the skimmers on a motzik, he recognized everything on the paths and they won’t catch you!

                  Java was available, a familiar story. By that time, by that time I was already wearing epaulettes, finally I made friends with the Gaits and had no problems.
                  And I will sell CHAMBERS, not mine and a lot of trouble. I'll take the usual, new. A familiar case, with proper care will serve.

                  Keep in mind that the body is now doing no good. Do not be too lazy to process it initially - then it will live. The rest is beyond praise.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 25 February 2018 20: 29
                    +1
                    Already understood. In the service of a couple, and a friend took a fishing trip!
                    We crippled it all while the brand new, clean was.
                    A familiar thing.
                    And I had motorcycles, Izh and Panonia.
  11. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 25 February 2018 13: 54
    +4
    It is a pity ... 2108 was considered the most successful modern model in the USSR (the classic does not count). Who had, he will confirm! Well, Niva is still being seized in the West ... With properly growing hands, pretty good! I myself use this on the tundra so far ...
    1. Imh
      Imh 25 February 2018 13: 57
      +3
      About 2108 confirm personal experience.
  12. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 25 February 2018 14: 23
    +1
    was a good constructor but for the top five they will ask him
  13. Bolo
    Bolo 25 February 2018 15: 37
    +1
    I am embarrassed by this phrase: "In recent years, Georgy Mirzoyev has been actively involved in the development of cars using alternative fuels."?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 25 February 2018 17: 43
      +1
      But what’s wrong? Electric cars, hydrogen or something else?
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 25 February 2018 18: 36
        +1
        Electric cars, hydrogen or something else?

        "Black Lightning"?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 25 February 2018 19: 55
          +1
          There will be "Green Cuttlefish" or "Kovrovets Light", as in youth!
          Oh, where are my 17, 20, 25 years ... in the flood plain, gone fishing!
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 25 February 2018 20: 14
            +1
            Think about where two wheels? But what about fishing? Where will you put the catch? wink
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 25 February 2018 20: 32
              +1
              Crayfish, a bag on the trunk and that's enough. Then if you are greedy you can fly in cool!
              Better many times a little bit than once in half!
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 25 February 2018 21: 38
      0
      Quote: Bolo
      I am embarrassed by this phrase: "In recent years, Georgy Mirzoyev has been actively involved in the development of cars using alternative fuels."?

      This is such a sinecure. It seems that in business and real work no one needs.
  14. Andrey57
    Andrey57 25 February 2018 21: 08
    0
    He was a cool person, any engineer could easily come to him on any issues. I was ready to listen to any ideas for improving the quality of machines. Twice a month, all heads of departments and scientific and technical centers of VAZ received “gifts” when analyzing statistics on failure in operation, especially abroad. At the same time, he never crossed the bounds of decency and never insulted anyone.
  15. timgan777
    timgan777 25 February 2018 23: 19
    +3
    eternal memory to a good and talented person ,,, THANKS HUGE FOR A NIVA