Israeli satellite recorded the base of the Su-57 in Syria

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An Israeli satellite EROS-B photographed the position of the Russian C-57 fighter jets at Hmeimim airbase in Syria, reports Lenta.ru report the message of the newspaper Haaretz.





The satellite operator, iSi, discovered two airplanes standing close to the runway.

As the newspaper notes, these first pictures fully confirm the information about the arrival of Russian cars in Syria.

The publication, citing Israeli intelligence, writes that the Su-57 is still functioning in a limited mode, and, probably, the Middle Eastern country will become the place of their combat running-in.

“Su-57 is the first Russian fighter of the fifth generation. It has low visibility for enemy systems, has high survivability and maneuverability, is able to move with supersonic speed without boost. According to its characteristics, it is on par with the American F-35 fighter-bomber, ”the material says.

Recall, as of October last year, the Israeli Air Force had seven F-35 aircraft, while one of the aircraft was under repair allegedly due to a collision in the air with two birds during a training flight. However, this incident coincided with the news about the shelling by Syrian air defense of an unidentified air group invaded by the Jewish state.

In February, the Russian Defense Ministry strengthened the air group in Syria, transferring four Su-35С fighters and four newest Russian 5 fighters of the Su-57 generation there.
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  1. +45
    25 February 2018 08: 21
    and so in a heap of them parked so that the bearded kids from the mortars this time would definitely not miss?
    1. +8
      25 February 2018 08: 32
      Quote: MadCat
      and so in a heap of them parked so that the bearded kids from the mortars this time would definitely not miss?

      There they are guarded clearly ... We have nothing to hide! All systems are in high alert ..
      1. +16
        25 February 2018 08: 37
        Arranged so for Photoshop, and now you can disperse.
        1. +6
          25 February 2018 08: 41
          Yes, the picture is very similar to 57e. The tail unit gives out.
          1. +24
            25 February 2018 09: 21
            In terms of its characteristics, it is on an equal footing with the American F-35 fighter-bomber, ”the material says.

            F-35 does not reach a number of parameters to the Su-57.
            1. +8
              25 February 2018 12: 34
              And SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to F-35. We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...
              1. +18
                25 February 2018 12: 46
                There is nothing like leather.
                1. +5
                  25 February 2018 13: 37
                  Not casual, these stripes on the edges of the wings left. So, they wanted them to be photographed from a satellite and not to be mistaken in identification.
                  Something again, our intelligence muddied.
                  what
                  Quote: Hanokem
                  We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

                  And it’s also important to run the plane in the most difficult conditions. And Israel from the available NATO has the best radars in the world. Let's see ... But hardly authentic the results will be published in the media hi
                  1. +1
                    25 February 2018 19: 26
                    Not casual, these stripes on the edges of the wings left
                    And how many wooden models can be put !!!
                    1. vka
                      +1
                      26 February 2018 09: 28
                      and inflatable too, but they said they would not come in handy !!!!
                2. +3
                  25 February 2018 15: 48
                  or the swamp of their patrons, for that matter
                  1. +2
                    26 February 2018 07: 22
                    It is true that there the son of Israel blurted out as if the f-35 produced by Israel ...)))) it was already funny!
                3. 0
                  26 February 2018 13: 05
                  Quote: leshiy076
                  And the SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to the F-35.

                  this is a hint for you to sit quietly like mice and not rock the boat under a star-striped flag with your 35 troughs tongue wassat laughing
              2. +22
                25 February 2018 12: 50
                Quote: Hanokem
                And SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to F-35. We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

                Well, "uzho" touch the lad, tear off the tentacles, then see how quickly heals.
              3. +23
                25 February 2018 13: 00
                Quote: Hanokem
                A SU-57 does not reach for a number of parameters

                By such parameters as price ...
                1. +5
                  25 February 2018 14: 06
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Quote: Hanokem
                  A SU-57 does not reach for a number of parameters

                  By such parameters as price ...

                  By price. An order of magnitude cheaper. Main index
              4. +12
                25 February 2018 13: 07
                Quote: Hanokem
                And SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to F-35. We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

                Rather, it drove him to feel your "hens". And yes, the Su-57 will never grow to the price for which you bought your headache.
              5. +5
                25 February 2018 13: 13
                look don't choke wink
              6. +22
                25 February 2018 13: 15
                f 35 as a plane (glider) does not even reach the 4th generation. but once bought it must be praised. as it is said: it riches with a thought. laughing
              7. +1
                25 February 2018 19: 08
                Yes, and it doesn’t reach very much ... So sleep peacefully, where are we to the strongest and most intelligent)))
              8. 0
                25 February 2018 19: 49
                Feel the radars and share with your American brothers, right?
              9. +6
                25 February 2018 19: 51
                Argument your position. For example, tell us how things are with the F-35 with cruising supersonic and controlled thrust vector. I'm very interested.
                Also, if not difficult, give a link to a video where you could fully appreciate the aerobatic qualities of this "super aircraft".
                Link to the video from the Su-57 is not interested? laughing
                1. 0
                  25 February 2018 23: 19
                  And what is there with oxygen supply to the pilots?
              10. +2
                25 February 2018 19: 53
                Quote: Hanokem
                And SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to F-35. We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

                And by what parameters does it fall short? Or is it a Jewish secret?
              11. +2
                25 February 2018 22: 11
                And the SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to the F-35.

                Do you mean the price? :)
                1. 0
                  25 February 2018 23: 20
                  Nooooo, nutty glavnyuki are always out of competition ... and vassals pay and will pay ...
                2. 0
                  25 February 2018 23: 40
                  Su-57 is leading here, more than $ 120 million at the moment.
              12. 0
                25 February 2018 23: 19
                Only our bird was brought for military use, and the Amer miracle in peaceful conditions does not always fly (almost from a word in general). We will see.
              13. 0
                26 February 2018 01: 24
                Do not write nonsense! This F-35 does not reach the 5th generation fighter in cruising supersonic speed ...
              14. 0
                26 February 2018 03: 44
                Do not lose the tentacles.
              15. 0
                26 February 2018 07: 20
                But it’s stopudovo cooler, Israeli-made fighters ... I don’t understand what are you proud of here? All your science is from the former USSR.
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              17. 0
                26 February 2018 13: 16
                Quote: Hanokem
                And SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to F-35. We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

                if they didn’t feel you and monitored you during that raid ... they started digging hard
              18. 0
                26 February 2018 19: 46
                Quote: Hanokem
                And the SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to the F-35.

                What is it for? Justify your words. Or just wagging your tongue?
                We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

                As if x @ rya did not crack.
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            1. +5
              25 February 2018 10: 17
              Quote: Seaman77
              Here is some information about using the Su-57. I do not know how much you can trust this site, the first time I came across it.

              Of course you can’t trust such sites. hi The truth usually manifests itself after a few years Yes
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            3. +3
              25 February 2018 10: 50
              Quote: Seaman77
              Here is some information about using the Su-57. I do not know how much you can trust this site, the first time I came across it.

              If this were true, then the entire Internet would have stood on the ears. But on all major news sites there is silence about it.
              1. +4
                25 February 2018 11: 09
                starting to stand .. I found several resources already
                1. +2
                  25 February 2018 11: 16
                  Quote: gig334
                  starting to stand .. I found several resources already

                  So while these resources refer to each other.
                  1. +4
                    25 February 2018 11: 26
                    Su-57 bombed Guta with the Americans. Practice Gutu video
                    http://wh24.ru/su-57-razbombil-gutu-vmeste-s-amer
                    ikancami /
                    1. +5
                      25 February 2018 11: 34
                      That's just the news from this site. And where they got it from is not clear. No links to anything official. Even to the usual "competent sources who wish to remain anonymous." Of course, I would like this to happen in real life.
                      1. +2
                        25 February 2018 11: 55
                        None of this, but from the Syrian media, nevertheless writes the source. Look at the nameplates in the video, he just added a video to his website. Already on YouTube, the news went on other resources.
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4cD6_n0hUw
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                    2. BVS
                      0
                      25 February 2018 12: 18
                      Actually, the SU-57 fighter.
                      1. +4
                        25 February 2018 12: 39
                        Actually, the su35 is also a fighter, but it is no worse than any bomber))) since it is a multi-purpose fighter.
                      2. +1
                        25 February 2018 14: 01
                        Quote: bvs
                        Actually, the SU-57 fighter.

                        They used to be called a "fighter-bomber." Now the generally accepted name is "multi-purpose."
                      3. 0
                        26 February 2018 07: 27
                        Actually, the SU-57 Promising Front -line Aviation Complex! I didn’t notice the word fighter there, and you?
                      4. 0
                        26 February 2018 19: 51
                        Quote: bvs
                        Actually, the SU-57 fighter.

                        Well, not quite. Initially, it was called PAK FA - a promising front-line aviation complex. That is, in theory, this is an osonva for a fighter, attack aircraft, front-line bomber.
                        So far, only a fighter has been made.
                    3. +4
                      25 February 2018 14: 19
                      Quote: gig334
                      Su-57 bombed Guta with the Americans. Practice Gutu video

                      Su-57 with the Americans? I apparently overslept that rapprochement with partners to such an extent that our advanced aircraft was sent to work with amers, and judging by the video there were probably at least a dozen strategic aircraft, how many missiles can the Su-57 carry? What are the conclusions that these are airplanes? Some crap to be honest.
                2. 0
                  25 February 2018 18: 06
                  Quote: gig334
                  starting to stand .. I found several resources already

                  This explains why such stuffing is done.
                  https://topwar.ru/136705-feerichnyy-bred-v-chem-e
                  sche-ne-obvinili-rossiyu.html
              2. +1
                25 February 2018 12: 10
                If this is true, then for the United States it is a shame, and society will demand war, and this is a fever, so no one will ring them.
            4. +5
              25 February 2018 11: 00
              I just can’t understand how “2000 American soldiers in the so-called PMCs, to this figure I need to add the NATO soldiers who do not know what they are doing” and are fighting - how did they get into the deep rear of the Syrian army and how do they get supplies? request
              1. +6
                25 February 2018 11: 51
                Here I can not understand how "2000 American soldiers in the ....
                laughing

                In the USSR, experiments were carried out to transfer color images to the screens of black and white TVs.
                You know the difference between this news and "bashing Guta with terrible force." ?
                1. About TVs - it's true.
                2. And she gives no reason to make a laughing stock of VO
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            6. +2
              25 February 2018 11: 58
              Quote: Seaman77
              Here is some information about using the Su-57. I do not know how much you can trust this site, the first time I came across it.
              http://www.iarex.ru/news/55916.html
              http://www.iarex.ru/news/55921.html

              The site www.iarex.ru reprinted it itself. I read at “Comte” at night, they also posted about the use of SU-57, but the info was taken from some left blackmail site. Why chernushny, so the information presented in the comment is combed by "Iareks". The initial version featured the bombardment of V. Guta with PHOSPHORIC BOMBS and the firing of SURFACE-EARTH rockets. Draw your own conclusions.
              1. 0
                25 February 2018 23: 42
                Our defense ministry will again be laughed at.
            7. BVS
              0
              25 February 2018 12: 24
              Actually, the SU-57 fighter.
            8. +1
              25 February 2018 12: 25
              Quote: Seaman77
              Today, the Su-57 began to do what Russia promised: to attack the enclaves of the "rebels" in the eastern part of Guta, an area east of Damascus.

              First step? Work on ground targets. Living force and (hopefully) enemy equipment. It will be interesting to know whether the stage of application for enemy air targets will be. There are no planes at the Babohas))))
              1. +2
                25 February 2018 12: 42
                Airplanes have Babohas: El Avir, mattress and Turkish Air Force.
                1. +1
                  25 February 2018 12: 58
                  Quote: zoolu350
                  mattress and turkish air force.

                  mattress and Turkish planes, this is understandable. But the bearded, like, bombed everything already. These are the MIGs that were captured.
              2. BVS
                0
                25 February 2018 12: 46
                Actually, the SU-57 fighter.
                1. +1
                  25 February 2018 13: 42
                  Quote: bvs
                  Actually, the SU-57 fighter.

                  That is, he can’t work on ground targets? Did I interpret you correctly? If yes, this is nonsense.
                2. 0
                  25 February 2018 21: 06
                  The fifth generation aircraft implies multipurpose use. Su-57 has the ability to install both explosive and airborne missiles.
            9. +7
              25 February 2018 12: 32
              Quote: Seaman77
              Here is some information about using the Su-57. I do not know how much you can trust this site, the first time I came across it.
              http://www.iarex.ru/news/55916.html
              http://www.iarex.ru/news/55921.html
              =============
              The most advanced to date, the Su-57, four of which were first deployed in Syria about 36 hours ago, took part in a sortie. Today, the Su-57 began to do what Russia promised: to attack the enclaves of the "rebels" in the eastern part of Guta, an area east of Damascus.

              The attacks were brutal, and they lasted from 9:20 a.m. EST. Guta slowly and gradually leveled.

              Just 24 hours ago, a Russian general flew a Russian Air Force plane from Damascus to Riyadh (Saudi Arabia), where he warned the Saudis: if the Saudis did not pull their "rebels" out of Guta, the area would be destroyed "in the style of Grozny." Grozny is a city in Chechnya, which during the war in 1999-2000 was controlled by militants. Russia used thermobaric ammunition against the bandits, after which the UN Secretary General said that now Grozny is “the most destroyed city on Earth”
              Today, Guta completely began to feel the power of Russia, as the new Su-57 aircraft from the Russian aerospace forces began to pound Guta with terrible force.

              The Syrian army also joined the efforts of Russia, which fired rockets of the "ground-to-ground" type, knocking out the "rebels" from the buildings along with the stones. A significant part of this place is now burning after, in the evening, supposedly phosphoric ammunition was used there.

              As events unfolded, the UN Security Council worked out a resolution on a ceasefire in Ghout for Syria, which Russia blocked, saying: Moscow will agree to a resolution only on condition that the ceasefire does not apply to US-sponsored terrorist forces. The United States did not agree with this paragraph and was deleted by the United Nations. Then Russia began to bomb Guta, and the UN rushed to rewrite the document in the way that Russia wants. But it seems that with the new edition of the resolution, the UN was a little delayed and by the morning of February 24, Guta no longer existed, Russia knocked out all the crap (Russia is now kicking the living crap out of those rebels) from the local “rebels”.

              It seems that the geopolitical conflict in Syria is gaining momentum much faster than expected. This leads to frightening thoughts.
              ==============
              According to Syrian media, there are now four Su-57s in Syria, which have unified razed the eastern Guta along with American soldiers, the wh24 portal notes. Also, the Syrian media write that up to 2000 American soldiers were in East Ghut as part of the so-called PMCs, NATO soldiers, who do not understand what they are doing, need to be added to this figure. American militants and terrorists need to be considered separately, they were killed much more.

              Now no one doubts that this is revenge for the Russian guys who died as a result of the American shelling a few days ago.

              The State Department tried to get through to Moscow, but no one answers. As Lavrov said in Munich: "the time for negotiations has passed, the time has come for retaliation." And this is true, Russia is not going to tolerate the US tricks either in Syria or elsewhere. And believe me, it’s abruptly in Guta than in Stalingrad. Not a single living American soldier will leave from there.

              The State Department has already stated that it has absolutely nothing to oppose the SU-57 in the airspace in Syria, this fighter is the most advanced among other fighters in the world, and this becomes a very big headache for American generals. They have nothing more to say, they can only silently observe.

              The last passage convinced me more than everyone else that I probably didn’t read any more nonsense. request You still need to look for such hatred, you will not find it everywhere.
              1. +8
                25 February 2018 14: 24
                Quote: Varna
                The last passage convinced me more than everyone else

                Yes, you just didn’t hear the main thing, here a friend told me, who, in turn, was told a godfather, and he was a matchmaker who works in the president’s office Personally worked V.V. Putin! Election campaign so to speak Yes wassat
      2. +7
        25 February 2018 09: 07
        And where to disperse them there? The place is that the cat cried and the relief does not allow. Everything is temporary there and not for long! This is not some Afrikanda beyond the Arctic Circle, where everything is in the caponiers and among the hills. To collect in one place a very unsuccessful, almost half of the fleet of such aircraft, just elementary irresponsibility
        1. +2
          25 February 2018 09: 28
          Quote: Evgeniy667b
          To collect in one place a very unsuccessful, almost half of the fleet of such aircraft, just elementary irresponsibility

          So what to do?
          1. +4
            25 February 2018 09: 58
            Break in quickly and back to Russia. No other way, since they are already there.
            1. NKT
              +2
              25 February 2018 10: 06
              Correctly, quickly lock them in a cupboard and do not show anyone.
              1. +5
                25 February 2018 11: 04
                And that in Russia there are no places where they are no less needed? Crimea, Kaliningrad? And now, some stupid ones will start talking about "Lay" ads. They did the thing, in the same Ghouta and home. Things are more important at home.! Our industry is not able to provide its armed forces, and even trading in weapons, which is a crime in general!
              2. 0
                25 February 2018 19: 58
                In Russia, at least there is no threat of mortar shelling of the airfield.
                I think in Syria "on occasion" all the support units are on the ears.
            2. +3
              25 February 2018 10: 08
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              Break in quickly and back to Russia.

              So this was said.
              In early February, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov, who visited the aircraft plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, announced the start of pilot combat operation of new aircraft.
              "We are taking the Su-57 for trial operation, and the state tests of the first stage are over," he said.



              RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/syria/20180223/1515202853.html

              They’ll check, specialists will draw conclusions and go home!
        2. +1
          25 February 2018 12: 26
          Quote: Evgeniy667b
          And where to disperse them there?

          Under the caponiers, it seems they delivered fortified ones. No wonder the BDK was driven mercilessly
      3. Maz
        0
        25 February 2018 18: 46
        More like the arrival of chimeras in the form of beautiful and unknown scarecrows. This makes it even worse. According to rumors, these beasts are dangerous and merciless in heaven and their capabilities are superior to the previously advertised forces of the heavenly hell Hel Haavir. For whom did they go there? Really for restless southern neighbors? Toto their companion immediately found something to be afraid of.
        1. 0
          25 February 2018 23: 44
          Now it must be tested by fire.
    2. +7
      25 February 2018 08: 43
      and so in a heap of them parked so that the bearded kids from the mortars this time would definitely not miss?


      Hope these are inflatable layouts ... smile
    3. LMN
      +6
      25 February 2018 08: 48
      Quote: MadCat
      and so in a heap of them parked so that the bearded kids from the mortars this time would definitely not miss?

      They are inflatable laughing
      1. +4
        25 February 2018 11: 26
        And the whole world community was FOOTED. laughing
    4. KCA
      +5
      25 February 2018 08: 50
      And exactly what are these planes? Knowing the love of our army for inflatable models ...
    5. +3
      25 February 2018 10: 34
      Quote: MadCat
      and so they parked in a bunch

      maybe it's inflatable? And the real ones in caponiers?
      Damn, I'm not alone in my thoughts!
    6. +5
      25 February 2018 11: 32
      Quote: MadCat
      and so in a heap of them parked so that the bearded kids from the mortars this time would definitely not miss?

      There is such a place. There is not very much where to disperse. And caponiers are not a simple thing ...
      1. +7
        25 February 2018 11: 35
        Here, even a little better seen. See, there's nowhere to turn around. Engineering facilities at aerodromes are very difficult.
        1. Maz
          0
          25 February 2018 18: 48
          Compact and residential houses nearby.
    7. +18
      25 February 2018 11: 42
      By the way, we didn’t see a photo of 12 Syrian targets destroyed by Israeli aviation. Photos did not provide. Was there a blow at all?)
      1. +3
        25 February 2018 15: 45
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Photos did not provide. Was there a blow at all?)

        As they say in football - the moment is flirting. Yes And something tells you that you, Sergey, have just had enemies in Israel. laughing The friend of Israel in this case should have been tactfully silent wassat Good afternoon and with the past !!! hi
      2. +2
        25 February 2018 15: 55
        Good day, Lord! There is a note in the Arguments of the Week about air strikes against Syria by Israel. They write that Israel hit only 3 targets with an unclear result. They are afraid that Russia will deliver more modern air defense systems and then all of Israel will be under the gun. After the downing of the F-16, Israel closed the work of a citizen. Airport in Tel Aviv. hi
        I think that Bibi, with her blows, distracts the attention of the public from her dear because of the corruption sandalwood.
      3. Maz
        0
        25 February 2018 18: 50
        Do not hesitate - they killed everyone. I personally read the Israeli press - exactly everything and everyone. Can the Jews miss? laughing Well, except for rubber products. well, whoever is not mistaken by order of the top boss from the USA is friendship forever.
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    9. +2
      25 February 2018 12: 28
      Quote: MadCat
      and so in a heap of them parked so that the bearded kids from the mortars this time would definitely not miss?

      Yes Yes. Just for that. After all, there we are all stupid, it is a pity that there are no smart people like you ...
      1. 0
        25 February 2018 23: 47
        You will be surprised, but there are plenty of dumb people in our army. And also lazy and relying on chance.
    10. 0
      25 February 2018 23: 31
      inflatable toys....
  2. +6
    25 February 2018 08: 21
    So, what is next ? Raise your vaunted F-35s, bullies heh heh
  3. +2
    25 February 2018 08: 23
    Damn, aren't there anti-radar or conventional camouflage nets?
    1. +9
      25 February 2018 08: 27
      In terms of its characteristics, it is on an equal footing with the American F-35 fighter-bomber, ”the material says.
      -different airplanes, different characteristics, our speed and maneuverability are much higher, source-goof.
      1. +2
        25 February 2018 08: 34
        do not forget that imitators are very developed in the Russian army. It may well be inflatable, especially for the bearded bait. And where is the real one, few people know ... although in the east it is bad with secrets.
      2. +1
        25 February 2018 08: 35
        Jews have nothing to compare. They don’t have F-22s.
        And on the other hand, if they compare with their thirty-fifths, it means that they have some thoughts on this subject.
        1. +4
          25 February 2018 12: 29
          Quote: Zefr
          And on the other hand, if they compare with their thirty-fifths, it means that they have some thoughts on this subject

          One thought will compare the inquisitive Jewish mind: tighten the rolls so that they don’t put them in))))))
    2. +4
      25 February 2018 08: 44
      Damn, aren't there anti-radar or conventional camouflage nets?


      Well, what are you ... maybe everything in Russia will cover and cover ... smile
    3. 0
      25 February 2018 08: 56
      Quote: Andryukha G
      Damn, aren't there anti-radar or conventional camouflage nets?

      This is politics! Let the gentlemen admire .. hehe Su-57 is not a toy, namely a combat fighter!
  4. +14
    25 February 2018 08: 24
    Perhaps soon the Jewish Fe-35s will start to peck not only birds. am
  5. +4
    25 February 2018 08: 27
    Or maybe ours are caught on live bait? )))
    1. +5
      25 February 2018 08: 34
      Quote: Granit
      Or maybe ours are caught on live bait? )))

      Also such a suspicion ..! Putin is cunning and just so expensive and secret planes will not put on display .. West and Israel in shock! bully
      Maybe dummies ..?
      1. +1
        25 February 2018 12: 31
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Maybe dummies ..?

        Yeah. For two nights and three days, a team of Moldovan guest workers posted a papier-mâché dummy. On the fourth day, they painted it with ball paint)))
  6. +14
    25 February 2018 08: 33
    Well, that was confirmed, and the rest is emotion. Let’s look at what these models are capable of, listen to our “partners”. Success to pilots and technicians.
  7. +11
    25 February 2018 08: 37
    And what to mask them? They (to my deep surprise!) Were really transferred to Khmeinim DEMONSTRATELY! To adversary tensed. Therefore, masking them does not make sense. And the combat capabilities of our new car are probably being studied. Let's see what the radars see, how the “Raptors” and “Penguins” (F-35) are visible on them. How does the sighting system "on the ground."
    1. +5
      25 February 2018 12: 11
      Why strain the adversaries? As part of the window dressings, they sent a crude car to Syria - without a full-time engine, without a standard Breo with Suo, without new weapons. How and who can be frightened by this imperfection? And what are these combat tests in the absence of opposition?
      1. +5
        25 February 2018 12: 54
        Quote: shahor
        As part of the window dressings, they sent a crude car to Syria - without a full-time engine, without a standard Breo with Suo, without new weapons. How and who can be frightened by this imperfection?

        Everything that you said relates to the first T-50s (onboard 51, 52, 53, 54). IMHO flew into Syria side 55 and above, with a full set of equipment, but so far without its engines.
        The Su-57 was designed as an aircraft with simpler maintenance and a cheaper flight hour. New weapons and the possibility of intensive use - this is what scares this plane. Most likely, there will soon be reports that the Su-57 in terms of departures exceeds the same aircraft of the previous generation by several times.
        1. 0
          25 February 2018 18: 50
          And what new weapons does the SU-57 carry?
          1. -1
            26 February 2018 09: 54
            No, of course. This is known to all fighters with the regime. There are actually no planes, only inflatable models.
            But about this - shhh! A terrible secret, state secret and cellars of the Lubyanka.
  8. +7
    25 February 2018 08: 40
    Interestingly, the F-22 plus the F-35 is equal to the Su-57. Or not equal ...
    1. +1
      25 February 2018 08: 59
      Quote: PalBor
      Interestingly, the F-22 plus the F-35 is equal to the Su-57. Or not equal ...

      Now let's see! We are waiting for the West to give us .. And then they like to promote their own around the world, but here we really check the capabilities of the "partners" .. hehe
      WEAKLY gentlemen ..?
    2. +3
      25 February 2018 10: 09
      Quote: PalBor
      Interestingly, the F-22 plus the F-35 is equal to the Su-57. Or not equal ...

      Still ask a question: are all of their 22nd + 35th equal to our ten 57th?
  9. +3
    25 February 2018 08: 42
    A publication citing Israeli intelligence writes,

    Where is the link? what
    In terms of its characteristics, it is on an equal footing with the American F-35 fighter-bomber, ”the material says.


    What other materials ... smile reference please ... what proofs beat need proofs ... again twenty-five ... the author of the article is more specific please lay out the evidence.
    1. +2
      25 February 2018 09: 07
      Deback https://www.debka.com/
      1. +4
        25 February 2018 09: 41
        Quote: Lex.
        Deback https://www.debka.com/

        Such a controversial source
        Ronen Bergman, an investigative journalist with the Ediot Aharonot newspaper, claims that Debka’s sources of information are from the neo-conservative wing of the US Republican Party, whose worldview he describes as “things are bad and it’ll only get worse,” and Israeli intelligence services say that the reliability of the information provided by Debka does not exceed even 10 percent
        1. +2
          25 February 2018 11: 18
          What is it possible to indicate to any source the Syrians were the first to report the arrival and the satellites only confirmed
  10. +4
    25 February 2018 08: 52
    Quote: Andryukha G
    Damn, aren't there anti-radar or conventional camouflage nets?

    Apparently they put it on display specially to see everything that they are there! wink
  11. +2
    25 February 2018 08: 56
    There are many satellites in Russia,
    both civilian and military.
    Let there in space, cram ....
    to this Israeli companion.
    So he fell into the Pacific Ocean.
    Or burned in the upper layers
    the atmosphere.
  12. +1
    25 February 2018 09: 09
    but they could have made shelters ....... so that all sorts of Jewish satellites would not see and the barmalei would not stuff planes with holes again from the mortar ..... experience didn’t ...
  13. 0
    25 February 2018 09: 19
    Where they are could be said without satellites.
  14. +5
    25 February 2018 09: 24
    We’ve been sitting at this base for a long time ... therefore, in-depth shelters are needed for equipment and supplies. And foreign intelligence let them admire inflatable mock-ups. calculation not only to influence the gangs of bearded dzhigits, but also to withstand the massive impact of a much more equipped enemy with minimal losses. And the place for such a base does not have to be in Khmeimime. This site can become a reserve afterwards. But apparently such events they don’t take into account and the matter is limited to the construction of caponiers. That means everything is shaky in Syria in terms of prospects and nothing is finished. Yes and resources are limited, because we are not investing in this war, but we are only spending what is allocated for conducting exercises.
    1. +2
      25 February 2018 09: 33
      In addition to caponiers, aircraft parking was also fenced with anti-shatter barriers. I hope conclusions are drawn and what measures are possibly being taken.
  15. 0
    25 February 2018 09: 25
    10 more inflatable need to deploy XNUMX)))
  16. +5
    25 February 2018 09: 34
    Quote: Observer1
    And then, we look, shoot, listen, analyze and draw the appropriate conclusions, what kind of beast SU-57

    and we understand that ..il came wink
  17. LMN
    +6
    25 February 2018 09: 43
    They are inflatable.
    And the coalition will look for our planes in the sky, but they will not be able to find laughing ..or stealth tongue
  18. 0
    25 February 2018 10: 19
    It is wrong to call the T-50 prototypes Su-57; among the ten prototypes, there was only one that looked like a serial one and they drove it to Syria or no one knows. They are most likely to be involved in patrolling the territory.
  19. +2
    25 February 2018 10: 28
    According to its characteristics, it is on an equal footing with the American fighter-bomber F-35 "

    Shredded, or something. Su-57 is even larger than the F-22. These are aircraft of different classes.
  20. 0
    25 February 2018 10: 33
    the mess will be soon
  21. +2
    25 February 2018 10: 41
    “Su-57 is the first Russian fighter of the fifth generation. It has low visibility for enemy systems, has high survivability and maneuverability, is able to move with supersonic speed without boost. According to its characteristics, it is on par with the American F-35 fighter-bomber, ”the material says.


    whether on equal terms .... compared the iron and the maneuverable fighter ...
  22. +1
    25 February 2018 10: 42
    Super expensive equipment without shelter. This is ours, in Russian :)
    Or maybe they’re ... inflatable. Well, like a military trick. But we have inflatable tanks and poplars.
  23. 0
    25 February 2018 10: 50
    inflatable, go
  24. 0
    25 February 2018 11: 25
    Su-57 bombed Guta with the Americans. Practice Gutu video
    http://wh24.ru/su-57-razbombil-gutu-vmeste-s-amer
    ikancami /
    1. BVS
      0
      25 February 2018 12: 23
      Actually, the SU-57 fighter.
  25. +4
    25 February 2018 11: 29
    Russia Champion!
    Our hockey players took gold!
    drinks
  26. +2
    25 February 2018 11: 31
    It’s a pity that Israel does not play hockey .. hehe! In tank biathlon, too, and aviadars .. And what to do with them ..? soldier This is a global problem!
  27. +5
    25 February 2018 11: 46
    what are the funny Israelis - on an equal footing with the F-35, ear, DB (s)
    although they would have learned what the dreary F-35 shit is, it’s not even a full fighter, the Su-57 has no competitors, the F-22 is outdated and still does not have an OLS, not to mention maneuverable capabilities and weapons. The USA’s air-to-air missiles are too short ... the Su-35 surpasses all under-aircraft of the 5th generation of the USA, do not even climb to the Su 57 with its radars of 270 degrees ...
    1. +1
      25 February 2018 12: 19
      Actually, F22 implements the principle of spherical security - you know what it is? He went in the tail - got on the forehead. Smart cladding SU-57 is still in the project.
      1. +2
        25 February 2018 12: 38
        dude, the F-22 doesn’t have a rear hemisphere radar ... and the return launch of missiles in Russia has been implemented for a long time ....
        1. 0
          26 February 2018 11: 59
          My dear, do you read Russian? Spherical safety is everywhere! Plus multi-angle rockets. In this situation, he does not need maneuver. And you all come to the tail of Messer? Aw, the 21st century is in the yard!
          1. +1
            26 February 2018 15: 44
            dear, learn not to read fashionable words from Americans with their virtual helmets helmets, but real possibilities, they don’t have rear hemisphere radars, they are blind like moles, they are designed to interact with Avax, this is all that means this all-round security in American way .. And the tail tail has not gone away, just if you imagine it at a distance of 2 km, I imagine it at a distance of a hundred km ....
    2. +1
      25 February 2018 16: 16
      what are the funny Israelis - on an equal footing with the F-35, ear,


      The Israelis are doomed to praise the F-35 ... they got the sponsors ready, now they have to praise. And what, against the background of the barmalei this galosh is impressive. Here are just a serious technique never in battle never encountered. And they don’t agree to competitions in any way)))) They drive off to get dirty. The Hindus then lowered them once, that's enough.

      http://forums.airforce.ru/sovremennost/1531-indii
      skie-piloty-protiv-amerikanskih-asov /
      1. 0
        25 February 2018 21: 05
        A cuckoo praises a cock for praising a cuckoo
      2. 0
        26 February 2018 12: 01
        The Russian bomb carrier has recently encountered serious equipment like its MANPADS ....
  28. +2
    25 February 2018 12: 00
    Israeli satellite EROS-B photographed the parking lot of Russian S-57 fighters at Hmeimim airbase

    Basmachey provide information
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  30. 0
    25 February 2018 12: 43
    Quote: Hanokem
    And SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to F-35. We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

    I suppose that the Su-57 glider is not covered with a protective coating and the stealth of a production aircraft will be higher
  31. BVS
    0
    25 February 2018 12: 45
    airgus,
    And what, exactly on the SU-57 ALREADY installed equipment for bombing? On the internal suspension or externally, share it?
  32. BVS
    0
    25 February 2018 12: 50
    airgus,
    We are talking about the SU-54, and while it is still not multi-purpose, since many weapon systems for it are still at the creation stage, especially the internal suspension.
  33. +1
    25 February 2018 13: 05
    You don’t have to wait for another from our Middle Eastern partners
  34. +5
    25 February 2018 13: 19
    Aircraft in Syria were photographed quickly, in a couple of days, but the deployment of Russian troops to the Donbass, 800 tanks, plus maintenance, was not removed by more than one reconnaissance satellite for four years.
  35. +1
    25 February 2018 13: 20
    This is true, the Germans were defeated, although it was hard for our guys, but they sang their anthem to their music. Congratulations, I’m very happy.
  36. +3
    25 February 2018 14: 08
    Israeli satellite recorded the base of the Su-57 in Syria

    Why did the Israeli satellite take pictures, but what about America ?! belay
    Is Israel afraid of something more than others ?! wassat
  37. 0
    25 February 2018 14: 09
    I think ours made a technological breakthrough in avionics, that's why we threw 4 Su-57s ... And so we are waiting for air battles ... everything goes to this ...
  38. +2
    25 February 2018 14: 23
    The Israeli eye sees everything from space smile

    Just do not understand how to determine here what kind of aircraft, everything is smeared. It’s hard to see what looks like a plane.


    It is not clear what is happening there, Putin has already withdrawn troops three times, and the end of the operation and war has been announced. They completely lied.
    1. +2
      25 February 2018 15: 48
      Quote: Under the dome
      Putin has already withdrawn troops three times, and the end of the operation and war has been announced.

      This is called "leave in Russian" - say goodbye and stay.
  39. 0
    25 February 2018 14: 37
    Quote: gig334
    None of this, but from the Syrian media, nevertheless writes the source. Look at the nameplates in the video, he just added a video to his website. Already on YouTube, the news went on other resources.

    Well, where are the links to the “Syrian media?” On your link from YouTube is a video from the same site. Let's stop this worthless polemic. Everyone sees what they want to see. I never believe one source, especially in the era of information wars , and I’m trying to double-check the information ten times, so I have the honor on this. hi
    1. +1
      25 February 2018 15: 14
      Quote: Piramidon
      Quote: gig334
      None of this, but from the Syrian media, nevertheless writes the source. Look at the nameplates in the video, he just added a video to his website. Already on YouTube, the news went on other resources.

      Well, where are the links to the “Syrian media?” On your link from YouTube is a video from the same site. Let's stop this worthless polemic. Everyone sees what they want to see. I never believe one source, especially in the era of information wars , and I’m trying to double-check the information ten times, so I have the honor on this. hi

      Americans just do not run in the United Nations, urgently ask for a ceasefire. Wait, I think official news will appear soon, but more delicate. This will not happen, we worked the Americans in Ghout, they use unofficial media for this. The Americans did the same thing, they say we didn’t beat Wagner in Russian, we did not know what they were there. Political game. Although there is official confirmation that the Russian and Syrian aerospace forces are practicing Guta, it started yesterday. Look how Russophobian resources such as Echo of Moscow compose and whine. Although it is more correct to call the Echo of America https://echo.msk.ru/news/2153832-echo.html
      So if you do not want to see reality, sit in a box and do not lean out hi
  40. 0
    25 February 2018 16: 51
    Quote: Observer1
    It can and does exist, only who uses it? And if no one uses it, including Russia, then it is like an elusive Joe, nobody needs a nafik.

    You are right, why are liars an honest evaluation system? And there is no need.
  41. 0
    25 February 2018 23: 56
    Quote: Hanokem
    And SU-57 does not reach a number of parameters to F-35. We feel it with radars to understand what it is eaten with ...

    choke
  42. 0
    26 February 2018 01: 27
    Watch out for mutant birds! They sniffed chemistry at Assad, now they are rushing to planes. As for the F-35, this is a very complicated thing. Here both skill is needed, and luck) And they also know how to work with a network. Part of the electronics there is generally Israeli, therefore, Erdoganych buys - the shekel falls to Israel, and even from the Norwegians of advanced years.
  43. 0
    26 February 2018 07: 08
    The main thing is not on earth - the main thing is how they will look in the air. wink
  44. +2
    26 February 2018 09: 42
    Damn ... what a pity ...
    I drove a sofa on THAT ....
    I am writing from the trench ...
  45. 0
    26 February 2018 10: 09
    This is the achievement of the Israelis, their companion is able to see the plane !!! We should send them a photo 20 years ago that Yeltsin presented to Clinton - a photo of his golf ball
  46. 0
    26 February 2018 15: 32
    Quote: Observer1
    We know and take into account everything perfectly and rely only on ourselves!
    And a real example of Ukraine is a confirmation of this, namely for the return of nuclear weapons, Ukraine received guarantees of the inviolability of its borders from the United States, England and of course Russia, and today we see what such guarantees stand for.
    Budapest Memorandum 1994 Signed
    Leonid Kuchma
    Boris Yeltsin
    John Major
    Bill Clinton.

    In general, if you are not in the know, the document has not been ratified by the Parliament of Ukraine, i.e. not entered into force. Therefore, references to it are meaningless.

    However, in the current situation, they fully prove the correctness of the decision on nuclear disarmament of Ukraine. Imagine banderlog with "nuclear zbroi" Babi Yar did not smell?
    1. BVS
      0
      26 February 2018 22: 02
      Memorandum on guarantees of security in connection with the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) is an interstate document guaranteeing compliance with the provisions of the Final Act of the CSCE, the UN Charter and the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons of a Non-Weapon-Participating State against Ukraine .
      Signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, USA, Russia and Great Britain.

      The document directly defines the beginning of its operation as follows: "this Memorandum will be applicable from the moment of signing." Despite this, there is criticism in the Russian media of the legal viability of the Memorandum, as it did not go through the ratification process in the Russian parliament.
      1. 0
        26 February 2018 22: 25
        Quote: bvs
        Memorandum on guarantees of security in connection with the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) is an interstate document guaranteeing compliance with the provisions of the Final Act of the CSCE, the UN Charter and the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons of a Non-Weapon-Participating State against Ukraine .
        Signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, USA, Russia and Great Britain.

        The document directly defines the beginning of its operation as follows: "this Memorandum will be applicable from the moment of signing." Despite this, there is criticism in the Russian media of the legal viability of the Memorandum, as it did not go through the ratification process in the Russian parliament.

        Any document can be refuted, that is, smart lawyers))))).
  47. 0
    27 February 2018 14: 13
    Quote: Observer1
    On August 8, 1945, the USSR declared war on Japan officially!

    Nevertheless, the boot of a Russian soldier did not set foot on Japanese soil. And with Japan we are still at war and, interestingly, we’re not bombing the Japanese, we aren’t killing, like you are in Syria.
    Quote: Observer1
    Ooh, before you write all this nonsense from beginning to end, look at the official sources, but what you did not know for those like you ignorant and they shyavlyat, but for people normal bullshit!

    Only the truth and nothing but the truth, but tell me the points where the truth is!
  48. 0
    27 February 2018 22: 39
    Quote: bvs
    Memorandum on guarantees of security in connection with the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) is an interstate document guaranteeing compliance with the provisions of the Final Act of the CSCE, the UN Charter and the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons of a Non-Weapon-Participating State against Ukraine .
    Signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, USA, Russia and Great Britain.

    The document directly defines the beginning of its operation as follows: "this Memorandum will be applicable from the moment of signing." Despite this, there is criticism in the Russian media of the legal viability of the Memorandum, as it did not go through the ratification process in the Russian parliament.


    https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/G94
    /652/94/PDF/G9465294.pdf?OpenElement
    Russian text of the memorandum (UN website).
    https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/G94
    /652/92/PDF/G9465292.pdf?OpenElement
    English text (UN website)
    The difference in the texts is as follows: "This Memorandum will be applicable from the moment of signing" (Russian version). The English version contains the same text, only with an indication (in English) about the need to register a memorandum in accordance with the requirements of Art. 102 of the UN Charter.
    Art. 102 of the UN Charter (UN website):
    http://www.un.org/ru/sections/un-charter/chapter-
    xvi / index.html
    Article 102
    1. Any contract and any international agreement concluded by any Member of the Organization after the entry into force of this Charter shall be, as soon as possible, registered with the Secretariat and published by it.
    2. None of the parties to any such treaty or international agreement not registered in accordance with paragraph 1 of this article may refer to such a treaty or agreement in any of the United Nations bodies.

    In summary, neither Ukraine, nor the USA, nor anyone else applied to the UN Security Council Russian violation of the Budapest Memorandum for several reasons:
    1) the document was not ratified by the national parliaments of the signatory countries (primarily Ukraine) and was not registered with the UN Secretariat in the prescribed manner.
    2) see paragraph 2 of article 102 of the UN Charter
    3) Russia, in any case, did not violate the requirements of the Budapest memorandum, speaking about Crimea, since nuclear weapons were not used against Ukraine, and Russia also never had the obligation to forcibly leave a part of Ukraine after the lawful and conducted in the prescribed manner in accordance with Ukrainian legislation of the will of the people of Crimea.
    4) Illegal seizure of power after Euromaidan, the removal of Yanukovych from power in accordance with the Constitution of Ukraine allows us to consider the current Ukraine from a legal point of view as a new entity, in relation to which Russia generally has no legally binding obligations.

    It is worth noting that the memorandum was not ratified by Kiev, as it was dissatisfied with the division of debt obligations and property of the USSR. Although it should be noted that even if Ukraine got more, then it would have been plundered ...

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