Muzhenko: Ukraine is ready for a full-scale war with Russia

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Ukraine is ready to repel “full-scale aggression” on the part of Russia. This was announced to the Ukrainian service of Radio Liberty by the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (MAT), Victor Muzhenko.

Muzhenko: Ukraine is ready for a full-scale war with Russia




Experts determine the readiness of Russia [for a large-scale war] in three years, and we define different terms of readiness and different scales of both provocative actions and a possible large-scale operation, large-scale aggression against Ukraine. We have worked out plans for various options, taking into account the threats that exist around Ukraine, and we are preparing troops for the defense of our country
- he declared.

Muzhenko stressed that Ukraine needs to be ready to repel aggression at any time.

We must be ready at this moment, and tomorrow, and after a week, and after a year, and after three years, and until such a threat disappears against Ukraine. I mean the threat of military aggression against Ukraine
- pointed out the head of the country's General Staff.

Muzhenko also added that the promised army Tanks The Oplot will be available to it only at the end of this year.

We expected to receive tanks at the end of the past - the beginning of this year, but, based on certain technical reasons, that is, the capabilities of our defense industry, we assume that such tanks will be received before the end of 2018.
- He suggested, transfers "Lenta.ru"
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  1. +77
    24 February 2018 19: 02
    But what do you smoke so that you do not let go?
    1. +24
      24 February 2018 19: 03
      Quote: APASUS
      But what do you smoke so that you do not let go?

      Fat.
      1. +12
        24 February 2018 19: 07
        He, in the guise of his thoughts, voiced the owner’s order about provocation, such that a war would begin against our country.
      2. +47
        24 February 2018 19: 08
        They smoke that America gives them ... and all this is not a joke. They are preparing their people to be meat .. Unfortunately, the time has passed when it was possible to give Lula Bandera without special consequences .. Now everything will be bloody .. And the fact that it will be so no longer has to be doubted.
        1. +46
          24 February 2018 19: 16
          Quote: Svarog
          Unfortunately, the time has gone when it was possible to press Lulu Bandera without any consequences .. Now everything will be bloody .. And the fact that it will be so no longer has to be doubted.

          Come on, if Putin participated in the elections, he would have won more votes than in Russia, Svidomo would not change shoes for the first time, and Bandera’s, in which case the first ribbons of St. George would be fastened like a battle gay Lyashko and others .... Only one question -and we need it?
          1. +15
            24 February 2018 19: 39
            Quote: Ascetic
            if Putin participated in the elections he would have won more votes than in Russia

            And not only in / in Ukraine, but also west of it. Stanislav hi !
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          3. +2
            24 February 2018 21: 46
            Come on, if Putin participated in the elections he would have won more votes than in Russia -------------------
            These votes are already on the territory of the Russian Federation. Up to 50% of Ukrainians surveyed are ready to start a guerrilla war against the Russian Federation. So unanimous support for GDP in Ukraine has lost.
            1. +11
              25 February 2018 06: 58
              Quote: Silvestr
              Up to 50% of Ukrainians polled are ready to start a guerrilla war against Russia

              But only in social networks laughing
            2. +1
              25 February 2018 13: 49
              Quote: Silvestr
              Up to 50% of Ukrainians polled are ready to start a guerrilla war against Russia

              Who interrogated, like this clown, "radio freedom"? And do not confuse Ukrainians with people living in Ukraine, Ukraine is very heterogeneous. Let's see how these “50% partisans” will resist Poland when it grabs five regions. And Psheks never considered Ukrainians to be people.
          4. +5
            24 February 2018 23: 50
            Ascetic, the funny thing is that she perfectly understands. When the Russian army enters the territory of a misunderstanding. 60-70% of the army’s army will go to the side of the Russian army.
            1. +2
              25 February 2018 09: 01
              Like in the Crimea.
          5. +5
            25 February 2018 04: 55
            Of course not according to the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. Why do we need territories watered with the blood of our ancestors and being an integral part of Russia? More important are the capital of Sechin, Miller, Vickselberg, etc.
          6. +1
            25 February 2018 17: 12
            Here it’s just what you need. You think. The Kiev junta will calm down. When, for example. Will Russia satisfy their arrogant demands? Wait. More arrogant and cynical demands will be made. Fulfill them, they will come up with more. Because through the mouth of Kiev the most dangerous opponent of the present Russia is the USA. And the USA understands only the language of power. not the best of times, but inaction can lead to disaster.
        2. +24
          24 February 2018 19: 20
          Quote: Svarog
          time is gone when it was possible to press Luli Bandera without any consequences ..

          you are mistaken, just start flattening out banderlogs - you yourself won’t believe how many followers you will have
          1. +18
            24 February 2018 19: 26
            Quote: Partyzan
            Quote: Svarog
            time is gone when it was possible to press Luli Bandera without any consequences ..

            you are mistaken, just start flattening out banderlogs - you yourself won’t believe how many followers you will have

            Followers will appear after a complete victory .. and until that moment a lot of blood will be shed, Russian, on both sides. And this could have been avoided if, after A had been told, we would have continued to talk, not to mumble ..
            1. +8
              24 February 2018 19: 40
              Quote: Svarog
              as A said, we would continue to talk, not moo ..

              And when we said Ah? Forgot, remind?
              1. +20
                24 February 2018 19: 44
                Quote: you Vlad
                Quote: Svarog
                as A said, we would continue to talk, not moo ..

                And when we said Ah? Forgot, remind?

                Crimea, and with the DNI mooing began.
                1. +18
                  24 February 2018 19: 58
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Crimea, and with the DNI mooing began.

                  And what did we do there with Crimea? Didn’t they themselves decide so?
                  Quote: Svarog
                  DNR mooing began.

                  What mooing? Specifically, from the very beginning it was said that we We see Ukraine whole and not divisible! What other complaints do you have against Russia?
                  1. +15
                    24 February 2018 20: 08
                    Quote: you Vlad
                    Quote: Svarog
                    Crimea, and with the DNI mooing began.

                    And what did we do there with Crimea? Didn’t they themselves decide so?
                    Quote: Svarog
                    DNR mooing began.

                    What mooing? Specifically, from the very beginning it was said that we We see Ukraine whole and not divisible! What other complaints do you have against Russia?

                    You can still see that children themselves are born)) Without the participation of mom and dad? Find in cabbage))
                    1. +9
                      24 February 2018 20: 31
                      Quote: Svarog
                      You can still see that children themselves are born)) Without the participation of mom and dad? Find in cabbage))

                      Of course it is!
                      And in the case, not one person died in Crimea, that's how things should be done Yes
                      1. +11
                        24 February 2018 20: 49
                        Quote: you Vlad
                        Quote: Svarog
                        You can still see that children themselves are born)) Without the participation of mom and dad? Find in cabbage))

                        Of course it is!
                        And in the case, not one person died in Crimea, that's how things should be done Yes

                        And I really argue with that, I agree! Even a plus to you! In general, Crimea is Putin’s only serious achievement, but then ... what's next .. They pressed his entourage .. Europe drew the line and that’s it ... And when will we draw the line? When will the Russians cease to destroy? At 39, they also hoped that everything would work out, the result is known, that now everything is repeating again? Well, is there experience, or do you think our analysts are not reporting? There is no political will, but not it, because children, money, real estate .. everything is there ..
                      2. +4
                        24 February 2018 21: 09
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        not one person died in Crimea

                        Unfortunately no. There were two dead - a sniper killed a militia and an ensign of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
                        https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1392543
                      3. +1
                        25 February 2018 12: 52
                        Quote: you Vlad
                        Quote: Svarog
                        You can still see that children themselves are born)) Without the participation of mom and dad? Find in cabbage))

                        Of course it is!
                        And in the case, not one person died in Crimea, that's how things should be done Yes

                        It sounds beautiful, but let me remind you that Vladmin and the SBU were taken in Donetsk earlier than in Crimea. If there were 20 thousand “green parts” in the Donbass, then there was no need for Strelka.
                    2. +7
                      24 February 2018 21: 00
                      Quote: Svarog
                      There is no political will, but not it, because children, money, real estate .. everything is there ..

                      We’d start right away, otherwise we’d go somewhere in the wilds of something you don’t understand laughing
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                    1. +5
                      24 February 2018 20: 25
                      Quote: Lieutenant Captain
                      And what are you guys from the Donbass did not have time to say ?!

                      Why aren’t you a couch fighter there? Or can you just get under your heel? Unlike you, I don’t beat myself in the chest, but write about the policy we pursued regarding Ukraine!
                      Quote: Lieutenant Captain
                      Smyrna. tell us about your combat exploits

                      Wait Yes
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                    2. +3
                      24 February 2018 21: 21
                      Quote: Lieutenant Captain
                      Well, the People have fun, everyone is already with the poputino popkormi and the Kuban seeds, expect

                      Are you all waiting? Wait a little more! Better come tomorrow Yes
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                    3. +12
                      24 February 2018 23: 13
                      Quote: Captain of the Lieutenants
                      ... You mean in vain yourself with Russia, you are nobody and you can’t call in any way ... Have you served where, voisia? ...
                      ... In the sofa "Mikhanov" troops? Be equal, Smyrna. tell us about your military exploits ...
                      ... And you can treat flat feet ...

                      Valery. I make you a comment.
                      Rude opponent is not accepted.
                      Why did you visit the site?
                      To spread manure?
                      Squabble do not suit.
                      1. +1
                        24 February 2018 23: 29
                        Quote: Andrey K
                        Valery. I make you a comment.

                        Guilty, flushed request
                        Well so, not to take 25 steps? belay And so it’s possible Yes
                2. +6
                  24 February 2018 19: 59
                  Quote: Svarog
                  and with the DNI mooing began.

                  Svarog, you are raving. DNR initially remained Ukraine, but we do not interfere in the affairs of another country.
                  1. +12
                    24 February 2018 20: 11
                    Quote: sogdy
                    Quote: Svarog
                    and with the DNI mooing began.

                    Svarog, you are raving. DNR initially remained Ukraine, but we do not interfere in the affairs of another country.

                    But what about Syria? Or is this nonsense again? We are not fighting in Syria? Oh yes, we have already won .. And they threw the Russians ..
                    1. +8
                      24 February 2018 20: 31
                      Quote: Svarog
                      But what about Syria? Or is this nonsense again?

                      Do we have a treaty registered with the UN with LDNR?
                      So nonsense or nedopa?
                      1. +6
                        24 February 2018 20: 51
                        Quote: sogdy
                        Quote: Svarog
                        But what about Syria? Or is this nonsense again?

                        Do we have a treaty registered with the UN with LDNR?
                        So nonsense or nedopa?

                        ahaah agreement ... Well, yes, it’s kind of agreed with Hitler too .. You are either a naive young man or something else .. what kind of agreement .. the war is going on ..
                      2. avt
                        +9
                        24 February 2018 21: 19
                        Quote: sogdy
                        Do we have a treaty registered with the UN with LDNR?

                        There are UN-approved Minsk Agreements in which Russia is the guarantor of fulfillment by the LDNR. So, if one of the parties violates them, Russia can’t just, but must force it to peace, like 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. Muzhelozhenko understands this and is brave. In fact in the event of a full-scale violation of Minsky’s, we are still obliged to put out all the heavy weapons, then to withdraw the troops and ..... IMPLEMENT the constitutional reform with the agreement of the warring parties .... what It turns out that as of 08.08.08. before Tiflis stops will not work wassat request How not to take Kiev laws, then conduct in wassat
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                    2. +3
                      24 February 2018 21: 37
                      Yes, our military was not there ... Then ... There were volunteers ... But the military was not ...
                      1. +6
                        25 February 2018 03: 26
                        Is Ukraine planned?
                        Are the wretched still making plans?
                        They will not survive.
                      2. +9
                        25 February 2018 03: 28
                        From the Donbass dill returned without legs.
                        He wanted Kiev to help with dentures.
                        Avakov looked at him like a son ...
                        "Why didn’t you die there, lame beast?"
            2. +6
              24 February 2018 20: 41
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Partyzan
              Quote: Svarog
              time is gone when it was possible to press Luli Bandera without any consequences ..

              you are mistaken, just start flattening out banderlogs - you yourself won’t believe how many followers you will have

              Followers will appear after a complete victory .. and until that moment a lot of blood will be shed, Russian, on both sides. And this could have been avoided if, after A had been told, we would have continued to talk, not to mumble ..

              recourse recourse scribble from the trenches again on your knee ??? what what wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
              1. +3
                24 February 2018 20: 52
                Quote: Nikolai Grek
                Quote: Svarog
                Quote: Partyzan
                Quote: Svarog
                time is gone when it was possible to press Luli Bandera without any consequences ..

                you are mistaken, just start flattening out banderlogs - you yourself won’t believe how many followers you will have

                Followers will appear after a complete victory .. and until that moment a lot of blood will be shed, Russian, on both sides. And this could have been avoided if, after A had been told, we would have continued to talk, not to mumble ..

                recourse recourse scribble from the trenches again on your knee ??? what what wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing

                Well, yes, a sofa damn warrior ..
                1. +9
                  24 February 2018 20: 59
                  Quote: Svarog
                  sofa damn warrior ..

                  Well, above this title and do not make yourself out of anything else !!! request request fool fool fool
                  1. +3
                    24 February 2018 21: 11
                    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                    Well, above this title and do not make yourself out of anything else !!!

                    And where did I write that I pretend to be more?
                    1. +7
                      24 February 2018 23: 31
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      Well, above this title and do not make yourself out of anything else !!!

                      And where did I write that I pretend to be more?

                      recourse recourse your reasoning betrays you with your head ... while clearly and perfectly show that you imagine yourself the greatest strategist, hammering furiously on the clave !!! request request wassat wassat lol lol lol
                      1. +10
                        25 February 2018 03: 24
                        Ukraine has prepared for a full-scale war with Russia == portraits of Putin, white flags, whooping cocks - everything is ready
            3. +6
              24 February 2018 21: 35
              Quote: Svarog
              if, after they said A, we would continue to talk, not to mumble ..

              need a little refreshment.
              1. April 14, 2014 is the day when the text of decree No. 405/2014 on the start of the anti-terrorist operation in the east of the country was posted on the website of the President of Ukraine.
              2.Putin asked the militia leaders of the south-east of Ukraine to postpone the referendum scheduled for May 11.
              3. The referendum took place despite this.
              A living example of the Crimea inspired the leadership of Donbass with hope for a similar step by Russia.
              A warning of GDP was considered polites to Ukraine.
              This was not so, since further events indicate the absence of such intentions among the leadership of the Russian Federation. But, I think that GDP did not count on such aggression from Ukraine towards LDNR.
              Well, then .. away we go. The war in the Donbass occupied all the news ratings and the existing victims did not allow the Russian Federation to do anything. I think that until recently the GDP was hoping for an agreement with Poroshenko. But Poroshenko already for various reasons could not go for it.
              1. +6
                25 February 2018 03: 29
                there is a song about the love of a Moscow guy and Alesia Shevchenko from the city of Rivne. There are such words: "I became a militia, the trunk melted when we entered the Ilovaysky cauldron." According to the song, Alesia died: “camouflage is great, soot is like tan, with a hole in the chevron of the Aidar battalion, a shaved temple pierced a fragment of it ...”, etc. In fact, the Ukrainians, Alesya survived, left for Moscow, works as a blowjob woman at Leningradka, and is happy with her earnings. Takshta, Ukrainians, not everything is lost from you. We won’t kill you all, even if you jerk.
              2. +3
                25 February 2018 05: 11
                I was in Crimea during the transition period of 2014. and talked with the officers of the APU. According to them, the "Crimean scenario" in 2014 was possible on ALL territory of Ukraine, do not merge the oligarchy of the Russian Federation all over Ukraine with the Fed owners and their slaves banderlogs. All the trump cards in 2014. in Ukraine, the oligarchy of the Russian Federation visited: violation of the Belovezhsky consensus by the junta, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, availability of forces and means, the political situation is corresponding. Everything was merged except the Crimea. They would merge LDNR, but could not thanks to the popular movement.
          2. +1
            24 February 2018 21: 45
            Yes, we have long been ready
            1. +6
              25 February 2018 03: 23
              Against Russia, there are now Satanists and derestas from all over the world. This is a serious force.
              Only prayer and the Iskanders help against them.
          3. +3
            24 February 2018 21: 49
            Quote: Partyzan
            you are mistaken, just start flattening out banderlogs - you yourself won’t believe how many followers you will have

            Do not overestimate the enemy is not smart. Remember when the banderlog companies crossed the border of the Russian Federation, laundered, ate and .... returned to the front
        3. +5
          24 February 2018 19: 21
          Quote: Svarog
          And the fact that so will no longer have to doubt.

          To provoke elections or World Cup provocation.
          1. +6
            24 February 2018 19: 27
            Quote: dorz
            Quote: Svarog
            And the fact that so will no longer have to doubt.

            To provoke elections or World Cup provocation.

            In my opinion, this is by no means the last thing in the arsenal of "partners"
          2. +6
            24 February 2018 19: 35
            Specialists in provocations during world sporting events were sent to smoke bamboo .. It's a pity. The clown is good.
            Quote: dorz
            Quote: Svarog
            And the fact that so will no longer have to doubt.

            To provoke elections or World Cup provocation.
      3. +5
        24 February 2018 20: 26
        Quote: Looking Petrovich
        Quote: APASUS
        But what do you smoke so that you do not let go?

        Fat.

        Checked after beer. No, garbage is not even talked about with the newspaper "Pravda".
      4. +1
        24 February 2018 22: 53
        OOOO, this is the hardest drug am
      5. +8
        25 February 2018 03: 21
        With a trident in jo - light,
        With a victorious cry: "Glory to Usraine", -
        My country is bathed in shit
        Led by the Pig Mister.
      6. 0
        26 February 2018 01: 40
        and tires!
        laughing
    2. +15
      24 February 2018 19: 07
      Quote: APASUS
      ... Why, then, do you smoke in such a way that does not let you go? ..

      Something drop dead manlywassat
      Probably geldings to help ukrovermahtu sent belay
      But I didn’t forget to make a “knight's move”:
      ... We expected at the end of the last - the beginning of this year to receive tanks, but, based on certain technical reasons, that is, the capabilities of our defense industry, we assume that we will receive such tanks before the end of 2018 ...

      If something does not grow together, then the tanks have not yet done laughing
      1. +7
        24 February 2018 19: 18
        Quote: Andrey K
        Something drop dead manly

        It seems that the Germans put a brush-banner, and they fucked it through a hookah ...................... laughing
      2. +4
        24 February 2018 20: 44
        Quote: Andrey K
        If something does not grow together, then the tanks have not yet done

        her .. then just further they will be expected !!! request wassat wassat lol lol lol
    3. +6
      24 February 2018 19: 08
      They shook off the lice, brushed away the cinder after the boilers, and again they were ready to substitute the nickels. It’s a lot of honor to fight with Russia, and the miners are eliminating them.
    4. +22
      24 February 2018 19: 11
      Yesterday, the armed forces of Ukraine opened fire on the positions of the DPR Armed Forces, in the area of ​​the settlement of Dokuchaevsk, using 120-mm mortars. As a result, the battalion’s deputy personnel officer was injured. After that, our side requested a ceasefire. The Ukrainian side has confirmed the ceasefire. An ambulance was sent to evacuate the wounded. By car there were signs of a medical service, that is, a red cross on a white background. Despite this, in violation of the Geneva Convention and in violation of the ceasefire by the Ukrainian side, this vehicle was fired by an anti-tank guided missile and mortars of 120 mm caliber. As a result of this, three people died.

      1. +7
        24 February 2018 19: 22
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Yesterday, the armed forces of Ukraine opened fire on the positions of the DPR Armed Forces, in the area of ​​the settlement of Dokuchaevsk, using 120-mm mortars. As a result, the battalion’s deputy personnel officer was injured. After that, our side requested a ceasefire. The Ukrainian side has confirmed the ceasefire. An ambulance was sent to evacuate the wounded. By car there were signs of a medical service, that is, a red cross on a white background. Despite this, in violation of the Geneva Convention and in violation of the ceasefire by the Ukrainian side, this vehicle was fired by an anti-tank guided missile and mortars of 120 mm caliber. As a result of this, three people died.

        and do you believe them?
        1. +9
          24 February 2018 19: 30
          APU Command? Of course not!
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        1. +11
          24 February 2018 19: 45
          Quote: Lieutenant Captain
          you don’t get bogged down, schwa with the Prigogine campazitars will get a grip and will surely help you, but for now, as Separ wrote, one and a half zinc on a PC ... and efk on a vskoy..tuda-judge ..

          What also smoked a couple with banderlog? Or life rushing lol
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      3. NKT
        +1
        24 February 2018 19: 38
        Is it Sun or Natsik?
        1. +3
          24 February 2018 19: 55
          The tactical group "Mospino" worked.
    5. +5
      24 February 2018 19: 12
      He just bought a ticket to the United States with an open date. Accumulated and bought. So he says that now you can fight.
      1. +4
        24 February 2018 19: 30
        Correctly, he sets the time limit for infinity ....
        The correct dill, if the case \ decision can be delayed for later, boo done!
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    7. +2
      24 February 2018 22: 55
      Quote: APASUS
      But what do you smoke so that you do not let go?

      This is just an attempt, firstly, to beg money from mattresses, and secondly, to explain to the population that everything goes for the front, everything for victory.
      1. +7
        25 February 2018 03: 17
        On this occasion (about the readiness of the Urainsky commander to fight with Russia), -
        The Armenian radio was asked the question:
        "WHY DO ALL THE PEOPLES CARRY Wreaths ON THE TOMB, AND UKRAINIANS ON THE HEADS?"
        The Armenian radio answered without hesitation:
        "YES BECAUSE THEY HAVE BURNED THEIR BRAINS IN THE MAIDAN!"
      2. +1
        25 February 2018 09: 18
        Quote: Slovak
        Quote: APASUS
        But what do you smoke so that you do not let go?

        This is just an attempt, firstly, to beg money from mattresses, and secondly, to explain to the population that everything goes for the front, everything for victory.

        Do you think the people there do not know what this money is begging for?
        ex-defense minister Geletey acquired an immodest estate in England. The neo-colonial manor and an immeasurable number of acres of land is located near Imingham (Lincolnshire) and costs £ 23 million.
    8. +10
      25 February 2018 06: 02
      Quote: APASUS
      But what do you smoke so that you do not let go?

      And what is his face so moronic?
      Not, of course, I can’t drink water from my face, but I don’t remember such a moronic person in my native 56 brigade ... As they say on the Internet, I’m "rzhunemogu" ....
      1. +7
        25 February 2018 07: 36
        In general, Vasily Filippych said
        It doesn't matter what your skin tone or eye shape is.
        For the enemy, you are all Russian ...
        I am a Russian soldier without impurities, but I never belittle any Chuvashs or Mordovians - all our..... All the fighters of the motherland ...
    9. +1
      25 February 2018 06: 45
      Smoke does not give such an effect.
      Most likely a mobile dropper so that it never lets go.
      For if he lets go, then you have to shoot.
    10. 0
      25 February 2018 14: 07
      Pages of the textbook "History of Ukraine"
  2. +9
    24 February 2018 19: 03
    What does he smoke? They’ve been fighting Russia for three years already .. How is that? And he’s getting ready ...
    1. Don
      +10
      24 February 2018 19: 04
      It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.
      1. +15
        24 February 2018 19: 07
        It can now be taken without shooting and dust. Since it has become more dependent than three years ago. But GDP and K are waiting for something. I suspect we will wait another year and a half.
        The question is - what for is it to us? Take all her problems in the Russian Federation? Better let it go in pieces to New Russia.
        1. +5
          25 February 2018 05: 23
          A new Russia could have arisen in 2014, but the oligarchy of the Russian Federation hacked this idea in the bud, together with the oligarchy of ukroreich destroying the Heroes of New Russia - Brain (this was the most dangerous for them because it waged war in the ideological field), Batman, Motorola, Givi. What for us primordial Russian lands? In order not to look ungrateful before the ancestors .......... who .......... on all their labors, sacrifices and exploits.
      2. +12
        24 February 2018 19: 09
        Quote: Donskoy
        It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.

        Unfortunately, not many people understand this. This is another miscalculation of the country's leadership. Which will turn into a lot of blood.
        1. +9
          24 February 2018 19: 20
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Donskoy
          It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.
          Unfortunately, not many people understand this. This is another miscalculation of the country's leadership. Which will turn into a lot of blood.

          If you think about it, then in the next 5-15 years, the following wars await: in Ukraine ... in the Caucasus ... in Central Asia ... in Syria ... and in the field it is possible with China .. + clashes with the United States. If you constantly move away from conflicts, then they do not resolve, but only accumulate. Some are beginning to think that you can always kick Russia with impunity. But one quick peace enforcement guarantees 10 years of peaceful life.
          1. +9
            24 February 2018 19: 31
            Quote: the most important
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: Donskoy
            It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.
            Unfortunately, not many people understand this. This is another miscalculation of the country's leadership. Which will turn into a lot of blood.

            If you think about it, then in the next 5-15 years, the following wars await: in Ukraine ... in the Caucasus ... in Central Asia ... in Syria ... and in the field it is possible with China .. + clashes with the United States. If you constantly move away from conflicts, then they do not resolve, but only accumulate. Some are beginning to think that you can always kick Russia with impunity. But one quick peace enforcement guarantees 10 years of peaceful life.

            Not to add not to add .. The leadership is extremely not decisive, it can’t strictly draw a line beyond which the trouble for the “partners” will begin. But it can’t, because it depends on the West heavily .. money, children, real estate ..
            1. +3
              24 February 2018 19: 52
              Which of you is ready to shoot at the civilian population? And in the event of hostilities will have to. Let them look for Kovpak themselves.
              1. +16
                24 February 2018 20: 18
                Quote: ML-334
                Which of you is ready to shoot at the civilian population? And in the event of hostilities will have to. Let them look for Kovpak themselves.

                Soon, they will start shooting at our civilian population ... Yes, actually they are already shooting ... for me, the DPR, LPR are Russian people .. And it’s necessary to tear for them, not moo .. then they will respect ..
            2. +4
              25 February 2018 06: 54
              The "leadership" is decisive in its indecision.
              It remains to understand what this “leadership" craves?
              And if the "leadership" is maintained in full accordance with the plan, and this is beyond doubt, then the next seven years - guaranteed, they will continue to kick us further.
              Just not kicked into the corner.

              After all, the plan for the mattresses is global.
              Putin, as a protege of a certain group of people, must fulfill the obligations that are assigned to him.
              Failure to do so will result in bias.
              But this group of individuals is itself under pressure.
              On the other hand, excesses are possible that will lead to the manifestation of discontent among our population.
              Which is also fraught.
              So look at the horizon of opportunities and predict events.
          2. +2
            24 February 2018 20: 56
            Quote: the most important
            If you constantly move away from conflicts, then they do not resolve, but only accumulate.

            The best war is the one that has not begun.
      3. +6
        24 February 2018 19: 52
        Quote: Donskoy
        It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.

        And get a guerrilla war and thousands of corpses with a conflict for decades to come! Winning the war is not a problem, there is no need for a lot of brains, the problem is in Ukrainian people with brainwashed!
        1. +7
          24 February 2018 20: 05
          Quote: you Vlad
          Quote: Donskoy
          It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.

          And get a guerrilla war and thousands of corpses with a conflict for decades to come! Winning the war is not a problem, there is no need for a lot of brains, the problem is in Ukrainian people with brainwashed!

          Partisan wars are the past. With today's technology, they will not. And there are no forests left in Ukraine)) But at the expense of brains, you're right. And to bring them back to their place, we need strength. And then, whoever doesn’t run away to the west needs to be washed. Already in peacetime. That was all already. Remember how the great USSR developed. And believe me, the country's leadership knows all this. The only reason they are not so decisive is money, children, real estate from partners ..
          1. +6
            24 February 2018 20: 15
            Quote: Svarog
            And to bring them back to their place, we need strength.

            Of course laughing

            Don’t you feel sorry for, say, 30 thousand Russian guys (I mean Russian guys and our losses)? These deaths will be on the conscience of the one who will take this step, plus the Ukrainians will actually become our bloodlines. And by the way, this is to which both them and us in every way are pushed by the Anglo-Saxon world Yes
            1. +6
              24 February 2018 20: 32
              Quote: You Vlad
              Don’t you feel sorry for, say, 30 thousand Russian guys (I mean Russian guys and our losses)? These deaths will be on the conscience of the one who will take this step, plus the Ukrainians will actually become our bloodlines. And by the way, this is to which both them and us in every way are pushed by the Anglo-Saxon world
              3
              30 tons of our guys? For such losses, the generals should be put up against the wall .. Of course, our losses are a sensitive topic and I would not want to lose more than one fighter. BUT, such is the world and this world threatens us with a great war, at the hands of our brothers Ukrainians. If war is inevitable - beat the first - it’s your idol who said that and these are the right words. Just words, you need to turn into deeds. Now they will train, arm and send banderlogs to war with us, what do you think there will be no victims? Or about us after this war in Ukraine, good memories will remain. You argue, one on one, how the TV broadcasts to you .. Well, turn on your head then .. Unless, of course, you are not paid ..
              1. +1
                24 February 2018 20: 40
                Quote: Svarog
                If war is inevitable - beat the first - it’s your idol who said that and these are the right words.

                I have no idols, no idols request
                Well, it’s probably not so, and it’s inevitable how you draw us No. I do not understand you request There are powders today, but tomorrow they will not be remembered as a nightmare! Everything can be changed without a lot of blood, you just need time.
                1. +6
                  24 February 2018 21: 03
                  Quote: you Vlad
                  Quote: Svarog
                  If war is inevitable - beat the first - it’s your idol who said that and these are the right words.

                  I have no idols, no idols request
                  Well, it’s probably not so, and it’s inevitable how you draw us No. I do not understand you request There are powders today, but tomorrow they will not be remembered as a nightmare! Everything can be changed without a lot of blood, you just need time.

                  How much time do you need? Do you think it works for us under these circumstances? But look at the recent past, analyze .. In my opinion, with Ukraine is everything only getting worse from year to year? I am wrong? But in Georgia, the Lyuli gave and the norms are all, relatively of course .. but still .. they will not calm down .. because they are being controlled. And the goal of our enemies is to kill Russians, and even better, with Russian hands. You don’t argue with that? Well, why on earth would everyone suddenly calm down? Now, if, in Cuba, the Iskanders had deployed again, they would have calmed down, and now they have all the cards in their hands. And there is nothing for us to do but to give the cradles to their vassals, and the weaker they are, the less losses on our part. Actually, I am repeating this .. Let's see if I am mistaken .. And it’s good if you are right .. Yes, something, lately I’ve been less and less mistaken ..
                  1. +1
                    24 February 2018 21: 10
                    Quote: Svarog
                    But look at the recent past, analyze .. In my opinion, with Ukraine is everything only getting worse from year to year? I am wrong?

                    Of course you’re right, if they don’t give a loan to repay the loan in the near future, they will probably have to declare a default! This government is digging its own grave, you just need to not disturb them wink
                    1. +3
                      24 February 2018 21: 32
                      Quote: you Vlad
                      Quote: Svarog
                      But look at the recent past, analyze .. In my opinion, with Ukraine is everything only getting worse from year to year? I am wrong?

                      Of course you’re right, if they don’t give a loan to repay the loan in the near future, they will probably have to declare a default! This government is digging its own grave, you just need to not disturb them wink

                      So they will begin to fight with Russia because of the loan, do not allow this idea?
                2. +3
                  25 February 2018 05: 31
                  The owners of the Fed need a lot of blood, and this blood, in their opinion, should be OUR. It is possible to change everything without a lot of blood, if you work ahead of schedule and on the countercurrent, but the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, like you, can just stupidly sit and wait for it to resolve itself (and it will not resolve because it was originally planned by our enemies) as a result, we will get BIG BLOOD that you are so afraid of.
            2. +3
              25 February 2018 07: 03
              It's just a pity.
              After all, those who may also have no children will fall.
              And they did not see life.
              But the conflict between our Russian world and the world, by malicious intent, which Ukraine has become the edge of, is inevitable.
              It is for this that she, as a project, was created.
              It has been nurtured since 1945.
              The victory of the USSR in the war broke all plans.
              And the Americans did not give up.
              They were systematically moving towards building another on the ruins of one unsuccessful plan.
              And he is close to completion.
              The main thing is to push our countries into bloodshed.

              Of course there is hope.
              Putin and his comrades hope that the economic crisis in Ukraine will lead to mass anarchy.
              And then you can "take prepared."
              Will not arise.
              Ukrainians, like us at 17, will gather and trample wherever eyes look.
              Going nowhere. But beat Bandera and the like they have the spirit is not enough.
              And there are no such opportunities.
              And they don’t need it.
              They need to sit out, look around, wait out.

              So there will still be a war.
              We are being pushed there from all sides.

              God grant that I was mistaken in my assumptions.
              1. 0
                25 February 2018 07: 32
                Quote: demo
                God grant that I was mistaken in my assumptions.

                You are wrong! This we we can fight with Ukraine if we are pushed very hard, which will be our defeat! But so that Ukraine fought with us belay You understand correctly, the sky of Ukraine will be ours! Here for them there is no chance Yes Well, they want to fight (which is not grind with tongue), let them try, but again, money is needed for war request Well, the leadership of Ukraine, of course, understands that sooner or later he will be seized for his ass! Essentially, Ukraine’s finest hour has ended, gray days have begun.
          2. +3
            24 February 2018 20: 35
            Svarog! Stop the deaths! Wake up!
        2. +6
          24 February 2018 22: 22
          Quote: You Vlad
          And get a guerrilla war and thousands of corpses with conflict for decades to come!

          Now it is quite possible .. but in 2014 not !!! And in five years, the millionth army of Bandera brainwashed will be ready. Pull on ??? Or is it to liberate the occupied part of Russia? At the moment, this is possible only under the flag of New Russia and with the capital in Donetsk.
          1. +2
            24 February 2018 22: 52
            Quote: the most important
            Or is it to liberate the occupied part of Russia?

            according to international law, this is the territory of Ukraine and is not the territory of Russia. Need to be realistic
            1. +2
              25 February 2018 00: 09
              Quote: Silvestr
              according to international law, this is the territory of Ukraine and is not the territory of Russia. Need to be realistic

              We must choose: international law (who respects it ???) or the death of Russia !!! There is only one international law - the strongest survive !! and the winners are not judged, but the losers are immediately forgotten and their territories divided.
              1. +3
                25 February 2018 00: 24
                Quote: the most important
                We must choose: international law (who respects it ???) or the death of Russia !!! There is only one international law - the strongest survive !!

                how good that Putin thinks differently
                1. +1
                  25 February 2018 09: 36
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  how good that Putin thinks differently

                  Does he think about the interests of Russia? In my opinion, he is closer to the interests of his friends of billionaires.
                  1. +1
                    25 February 2018 10: 21
                    Quote: the most important
                    Does he think about the interests of Russia?

                    You asked such a provocative question! I believe. that the question mark is superfluous
                2. 0
                  25 February 2018 09: 37
                  International law is such a chimera, figuratively.
                  The features of international law from the point of view of its legal nature consist primarily in the fact that it is law interstate.
                  While in domestic law its subjects, i.e., the bearers of rights and obligations established by legal norms, are individuals, institutions and associations, which are under the authority of the state, the states themselves are subjects of international law, not having authority over them.
                  Some functions in the field of international relations, previously inherent exclusively to states, passed into the competence of international organizations (UN and others), however, these organizations are by no means subjects in the sense in which they are considered individual states, because they do not have sovereignty, nor territorial supremacy - these are the most important signs of international legal personality.
                  Even in international law there is not a single legislator, nor a single code of laws in the sense as in domestic law (unless the declared codes of warfare, conventions).
                  The main sources of international law are international customs, i.e., rules of conduct that have become binding in the process of their long-term and uniform application in the practice of states (e.g. rules regarding the situation of diplomatic representatives), and mainly international agreements. The latter can act between all states, between groups of states or between two states and can determine both the general foundations of international relations and the specific issues of relations between these states.
                  And further. In the so-called international law no centralized enforcement apparatus.
                  We know that "... law is nothing without an apparatus capable of enforcing compliance with the rule of law"(V. I. Lenin). These words of Lenin apply to all branches of law.
                  The coercion necessary to ensure compliance with international obligations and norms in general was carried out by separate, directly interested states.
                  It should be noted that often "the protection of legitimate interests concealed the goals of external expansion or subjugation of a weaker state."
                  The absence in international law of general legislation and a centralized enforcement apparatus is the essence of a moral or political prescription, but not legal norms.
                  Those. if you yourself acknowledge this is the so-called international law, then do it yourself, in the company of the same.
                  Which, incidentally, is used by Americans, Jews, and the hedgehog with them when they "poke" the nose of the Russian Federation into this "right", which the Russian Federation undertook to fulfill.
                  1. +2
                    25 February 2018 10: 23
                    Quote: Pax tecum
                    International law is such a chimera, figuratively.

                    you are right. As they say in Rus- "the law that draws, where you turn, it happened." So it is with this right. But our government invariably repeats this very phrase.
        3. +3
          24 February 2018 23: 03
          Quote: sogdy
          Quote: Mentat
          An extraterrestrial intelligence of epic proportions, which could determine the next mistake of the country's leadership, is hidden behind your pop avatar.

          The "age of salvation of the World" usually coincides with the puberty. Otherwise, we should talk about a delay in development.
          Goblins (Internet agents of influence) are usually people with developmental delays. They are the most suggestible.
          Quote: Mentat
          If something looks like an agent of influence and stinks like an agent of influence, then it is an agent of influence.

          Well, I’m more tolerant lol

          From the trench, everything is seen differently, but from the sofa, I feel somehow uneasy. When the porridge was brewed, I also somehow did not believe that the Russians would bomb the Russians and wet them with heavy artillery. Moreover, the old people, women and small children. And yet, when all this could be stopped, after Debaltseve, the guarantor backed up. In all Russian media, they yell that fascism is in Ukraine, and it handles with petunia, live. I was taught that the Nazis must be destroyed, he must be, too. And what do we see .....?
          And here are the agents of influence? Anxious guy and me, here, anxious. Bandera is such a disgusting thing that it can even bite without a host command. The brains of young people in Ukraine have been washed seriously, coupled with poverty and the inability to be realized, can lead to any consequences.
        4. +1
          24 February 2018 23: 46
          You Vlad. And get a guerrilla war and thousands of corpses with a conflict for decades to come! Winning the war is not a problem, there is no need for a lot of brains, the problem is in Ukrainian people with brainwashed!

          What is now to be cast off and remain silent, dodging conflicts? Israel is constantly waging a war (without entering full-scale neighboring territories) with some neighbors. And they don’t forgive anything to anyone (including shells that flew into their territory). And rightly so. Well, with "brainwashed" you need to do something, and not treatable (due to gangrene) - to amputate.
      4. +6
        24 February 2018 20: 47
        Quote: Donskoy
        It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.

        recourse recourse Well, yes .... you straight rushed from the trenches to the attack, to take a hohland, but all behind you ??? what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
      5. +6
        24 February 2018 21: 56
        Quote: Donskoy
        It must be understood that we are ready better than in '14, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two

        and if they reached Melitopol, then a bridge to the Crimea would not be needed and water would flow to the Crimea, and Ukraine would be much more pliable. But LDNR troops then stopped Russia
        1. +4
          24 February 2018 22: 05
          Quote: Silvestr
          and if they reached Melitopol, then a bridge to the Crimea would not be needed and water would flow to the Crimea, and Ukraine would be much more pliable.

          Quote: Silvestr
          and if they reached Melitopol, then a bridge to the Crimea would not be needed and water would flow to the Crimea, and Ukraine would be much more pliable.

          So exactly the corridor in the Prenistria.
          Quote: Silvestr
          But LDNR troops then stopped Russia

          Quote: Silvestr
          But LDNR troops then stopped Russia

          the only amendment, it was not Russia that made it, but a specifically taken character who, I hope, will be rewarded.
          1. +8
            24 February 2018 23: 03
            Quote: Captain of the Lieutenants
            ... the only amendment, it was not Russia that made it, but a concrete character who I hope will be rewarded ...

            Exactly!!!
            Poroshenko, for his war crimes do not get out. To the gallows of this bloodsucker.
            1. +1
              25 February 2018 00: 21
              Quote: Andrey K
              Quote: Captain of the Lieutenants ... the only amendment, it was not Russia that made it, but a specifically taken character who, I hope, will be rewarded ... To the point !!! Poroshenko, he won’t get away with his war crimes. To the gallows of this bloodsucker.

              I think Captain Lieutenants has a different answer
              1. +6
                25 February 2018 00: 25
                Quote: Silvestr
                ... I think Captain Lieutenants has a different answer ...

                This is my answer, that “Captain of the Lieutenants” is there - it's his business laughing
                1. +1
                  25 February 2018 00: 42
                  Quote: Andrey K
                  This is my answer, that “Captain of the Lieutenants” is there - it's his business

                  indisputably. It's just his thought.
          2. 0
            25 February 2018 05: 35
            This character is only a hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, he only complied with his collegial decision.
  3. +2
    24 February 2018 19: 03
    And you look like a healthy person, on medical grounds, and he carries such nonsense.
    1. +5
      24 February 2018 19: 20
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      And you look like a healthy person, on medical grounds, and he carries such nonsense.

      Do you have a conclusion from doctors regarding his health? I have big doubts, then people who are ready to fight Russia are mentally healthy.
    2. 0
      25 February 2018 18: 46
      His soul is crazy.
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  5. +9
    24 February 2018 19: 04
    In short, the United States requires ukrovoyak to unleash already and with Russia a full-scale war!
  6. +3
    24 February 2018 19: 04
    Fictionalists sit in the Ukrainian General Staff, think of Russian aggression, and some people believe, but all these fictitious things are worthless, but as the song says, we are peaceful people, but our armored train is on a siding, so we don’t advise Khokhlobanderites to wave our face with the fist of our "best army in Europe."
    1. +1
      24 February 2018 22: 01
      Quote: Thought Giant
      and some people believe

      half of Ukraine
      Quote: Thought Giant
      but all these inventions are worthless

      but motivation stubborn on top
      Quote: Thought Giant
      so we do not advise Khokhloberders to wave in front of our face

      they only need to go to the state border. They won’t go further. So wave and more than once. And to introduce the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the territory of Ukraine (LDNR in the opinion of the UN and the President of the Russian Federation is Ukraine) in this situation is not a delight! Zutswang. Do not enter, bad, enter, too bad
  7. +3
    24 February 2018 19: 06
    This thinker agrees to the gallows, they are ready for war with Russia, pranked in camouflage, I will look at the national battalions after the shelling with "Caliber" and the work of TU95.
    1. +5
      24 February 2018 20: 50
      Quote: polpot
      This thinker agrees to the gallows, they are ready for war with Russia, pranked in camouflage, I will look at the national battalions after the shelling with "Caliber" and the work of TU95.

      it is possible between "Caliber" and TU95 "Tornado" shmalnut !!! feel feel
    2. +2
      24 February 2018 22: 06
      Quote: polpot
      I will look at the National Battalions after the shelling with "Caliber" and the work of the TU95.

      Ie do you suggest the use of strategic aviation and the Kyrgyz Republic on the territory of Ukraine? Do you know what it is called in international law? I remind you, aggression. Do you assess the scale of the economic losses of the Russian Federation in this case? I think no. The current sanctions will turn out to be flowers. Truth. if you believe the box that sanctions have benefited us, then another thing. Although the Rosstat report for 2017. showed that we only increased imports for all items.
      Drug imports alone increased by 1.5 billion S
      1. +3
        24 February 2018 23: 41
        Quote: Silvestr
        Do you know what it is called in international law?

        recourse recourse in that "right" used by the digitalized West, this is not aggression !!! fool fool fool wassat wassat wassat and if we consider international law in its true concept, then it has not existed for a long time !!! request request
        Quote: Silvestr
        Drug imports alone increased by 1.5 billion S

        Strange you read Rossat only in places interesting to you !!! fool fool wassat wassat lol lol lol

        the volume of production of medicines in Russia in the first half of 2017 increased by 2016% compared to the same period in 11,2. This year, the Ministry of Industry and Trade estimated their release at 140,37 billion rubles. Growth is fixed in physical terms. Experts believe that the positive trend is associated with the import substitution program, Izvestia writes.

        The increase in production is also confirmed by Rosstat data. So, according to the Unified Interdepartmental Information and Statistical System (EMISS) in Russia, the output of drugs for the treatment of diabetes has doubled. In 2016, over the first half of the year, 7294 packages were produced, and this year over the same period - 14710. The release of antibiotics increased by 8,5 times. According to EMISS, since the beginning of this year, they produced 253,16 tons, and for the first half of last year - 29,7 tons.

        https://kgd.ru/news/medicine/item/66219-v-rossii-
        proizvodstvo-medikamentov-uvelichilos-na-11
        1. +2
          25 February 2018 00: 13
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          in that “right” enjoyed by the digitalized West, this is not aggression at all!

          you think so, but that doesn’t mean that everyone thinks so
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          Strange you read Rossat only in places of interest to you!

          I read in different places, I wrote it. that remembered. I will find the source in the computer will surprise you
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          the volume of production of medicines in Russia in the first half of 2017 increased by 2016% compared to the same period in 11,2.

          take the packaging of a domestic preparation and read where it is made. In almost all cases, you will see that domestic production consists in packing and packaging of tablets. On drugs, you can not even argue with me, I live on this.
          1. +2
            25 February 2018 01: 18
            Quote: Silvestr
            you think so, but that doesn’t mean that everyone thinks so

            your demagogy does not exclude a reality in which international law has not existed for a long time ... at least "Yugoslavia" is an example !!! request request request
            Quote: Silvestr
            Wrote that. that remembered.

            this is your serious problem ... you are looking for and remember only what is beneficial to you !!! fool fool laughing laughing laughing
            Quote: Silvestr
            On drugs, you can not even argue with me, I live on this.

            recourse recourse it is noticeable for you that everything is not all right with you !!! what what what strongly do not indulge in "pills" from the List of narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances and their precursors to be controlled in the Russian Federation !!! wink Yes lol lol lol
            1. +1
              25 February 2018 01: 23
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              your demagogy does not exclude a reality in which international law has not existed for a long time ... at least “Yugoslavia” is an example of this!

              you can tell Putin and Lavrov, I do not mind
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              this is your serious problem ... you are looking for and remember only what is beneficial to you!

              I promise you the true figures of imports to Russia
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              it is noticeable for you that everything is not all right with you !!! strongly do not indulge in "pills" from the List of narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances and their precursors to be controlled in the Russian Federation

              Have you been looking for? Indicate the number of the order regulating drug trafficking, show your knowledge in this area. you 2 minutes. The countdown has gone
              1. +1
                25 February 2018 01: 26
                time has passed. Doesn’t! Study departmental and federal law on this issue.
              2. 0
                25 February 2018 16: 07
                Quote: Silvestr
                I promise you the true figures of imports to Russia

                no ... I doubt that you are the head of the FCS !! wassat wassat lol lol lol
                Quote: Silvestr
                Indicate the number of the order regulating drug trafficking, show your knowledge in this area. you 2 minutes. The countdown has gone

                recourse recourse Do you think I'm sitting and waiting impatiently for your comments, so that later I can report to them ??? !!! what what wassat wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            2. +1
              25 February 2018 11: 35
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              this is your serious problem ... you are looking for and remember only what is beneficial to you !!!

              promised by me

              as you can see, everything is growing in almost all positions. and not just medication.
              And do not read the newspapers!
        2. +2
          25 February 2018 00: 29
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          that the positive dynamics is associated with the import substitution program, Izvestia writes.

          if you already dived into this question, then study how the original drug differs from the generic domestic spill? Then stop reading Izvestia.
          You can try the generic on yourself, just take a ticket to the doctor of toxicology take it. Over the past year or two, I have seen at least 10-12 of the most serious complications of generic pseudomembranous colitis, 3-4 people have died.
          1. +2
            25 February 2018 08: 23
            Quote: Silvestr
            Can try the generic on myself,

            But why is it bad? The active substance is one and the same! Only because they did not spend money on evidence of effectiveness?
            1. +1
              25 February 2018 10: 30
              Quote: You Vlad
              And why is it bad? The active substance is the same!

              just not. The original substance is produced at the factory that invented the drug. Then a patent is sold and anyone produces the same (supposedly) drug, but the quality of the substance is different from the original. The active principle may be less, it may be less "pure" chemically, may contain additives that are not characteristic of the original.
              It is extremely rare that the quality of a generic corresponds to the original. Think for yourself, if the same drug has a price range (except for the speculative component), then the quality is the same?
              Ceftriaxone manufactured in the Russian Federation. Over the past 3 years (according to my hospital), the frequency of side effects has increased significantly. A serious complication appeared - pseudomembranous colitis, the cure is very difficult. Previously, the same drug was not seen in this, worked with him for more than 30 years.
              For myself, I buy the original drug.
              1. +1
                25 February 2018 10: 53
                Quote: Silvestr
                It is extremely rare that the quality of a generic corresponds to the original. Think for yourself, if the same drug has a price range (except for the speculative component), then the quality is the same?

                And what is their real cost? Have you ever wondered? Without the wrap of corporations .. This is a business and not something personal.
                1. +1
                  25 February 2018 11: 30
                  Quote: You Vlad
                  And what is their real value? Have you ever thought about it? Without the promotion of corporations .. This is a business and not something personal.

                  we don’t know the real value - trade secret.
                  Look at the example of Noliprel (antihypertensive drug), compare the prices of our manufacturer and
                  French, as well as a range of prices depending on the owner of the pharmacy chain. Really curious.



                  You see, the price from the minimum can increase by more than 2 times and this applies to both the "domestic" and the French drug. There is also no significant difference from the manufacturer
                  1. 0
                    25 February 2018 11: 42
                    People are helpless, for me, there should be total state control over the drug market! So, judging by your words, the company that produced and tested the drug no longer when it did not give completely original technology to competitors?
        3. +1
          25 February 2018 00: 34
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          The release of antibiotics increased 8,5 times

          you see! I'm right! That's where the pseudomembranous colitis comes from! Until 2014, I have never seen, and since 2014, weekly, from about a dozen, one and a half colectomies were done, someone died. "Hurray" to the domestic manufacturer! The number of people with disabilities is growing and savings to the pension fund!
          And recently I talked with a friend working in the office of the manufacturer Arbidol in Russia. Strongly does not advise me to use it, since the substance of the drug comes from China and does not match the name.
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          1. +2
            25 February 2018 00: 52
            Quote: Lieutenant Captain
            This is addressed to zaputintsy

            I sometimes come across generals, the whole aplomb disappears with the removal of his pants.
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            2. +3
              25 February 2018 09: 20
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Lieutenant Captain
              This is addressed to zaputintsy

              I sometimes come across generals, the whole aplomb disappears with the removal of his pants.

              Here, yes there are generals who received the stars, only because cheers, they scream loudly.
      2. +1
        25 February 2018 00: 02
        Ie do you suggest the use of strategic aviation and the Kyrgyz Republic on the territory of Ukraine? Do you know what it is called in international law? I remind you, aggression. Do you assess the scale of the economic losses of the Russian Federation in this case? I think no. The current sanctions will turn out to be flowers.

        Well, why then immediately call aggression retaliation for the murder of citizens of a union state. It is only necessary to recognize LDNR as sovereign states (which makes Russians worse than Abkhazians). And the very first shelling of the territory of LDNR was harshly, very toughly nipped (for example, by calibers, etc.). Well, the sanctions were, are and will be regardless of the recognition by Russia of LDNR.
        1. +1
          25 February 2018 00: 15
          Quote: Icarus
          Well, why immediately call aggression retaliation for the murder of citizens of a union state

          it all lies in the scene. Crossing the border by foreign troops is called? After all, even the GDP believes that the territory of LDNR is the territory of Ukraine.
          1. +1
            25 February 2018 00: 31
            it all lies in the scene.
            No, the question of location is secondary. Everything consists in the recognition of the status of LDNR as a sovereign entity with which an international treaty on mutual military assistance can be concluded. Here you have to come out of SWIFT (which they fear no less than ours), since they have almost created their own system of interbank transfers.
            1. +1
              25 February 2018 00: 44
              Quote: Icarus
              It’s all about recognizing the status of LDNR as a sovereign entity with which an international treaty on mutual military assistance can be concluded

              what prevents it from doing yesterday and today?
        2. +1
          25 February 2018 00: 40
          Quote: Icarus
          It is only necessary to recognize LDNR as sovereign states (which makes Russians worse than Abkhazians).

          this is reasonable, but there are doubts about the feasibility of this
          1. +2
            25 February 2018 00: 45
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Icarus
            It is only necessary to recognize LDNR as sovereign states (which makes Russians worse than Abkhazians).

            this is reasonable, but there are doubts about the feasibility of this

            Yes, there are really big doubts: the leadership of Russia has the will and spirit to do this.
            1. +1
              25 February 2018 00: 53
              Quote: Icarus
              Yes, there are really big doubts: the leadership of Russia has the will and spirit to do this.

              you see, you are a real person
  8. +7
    24 February 2018 19: 08
    Ukraine is ready to repulse "full-blown aggression" by Russia.

    As Sergey Lavrov said: I do not comment on clinical cases.
    I fully and completely support him in this. laughing
    1. 0
      25 February 2018 08: 30
      Quote: K-50
      As Sergey Lavrov said: I do not comment on clinical cases.

      I will correct you: medical hi
  9. +10
    24 February 2018 19: 09
    We must be ready at this moment, and tomorrow, and in a week, and in a year, and in three years, and until such a threat disappears in relation to Ukraine

    why not make a tune when you know that no one is threatening you and in FIG you did not give up !!!! wink just such a "well done" just ...
    1. +4
      24 February 2018 19: 58
      Marina! love You have not been on the site for a long time! hi love !!!
      1. +8
        24 February 2018 20: 10
        Vitalievich, howdy there! love straight from there ...
        wink
        and Muzhenko, one word, muzhenko ... laughing
        1. +7
          24 February 2018 21: 01

          Well what can I say, and so the symptom is clear to everyone.
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        1. +3
          24 February 2018 20: 19
          Quote: Antares
          Quote: Svarog
          Su-57 is not enough for such a destructive operation ..

          especially if it's fighters ...

          yeah))
      2. +2
        24 February 2018 20: 28
        but common sense tells us that four Su-57s are not enough


        Common sense in the article, where the epithets “pound Guta with terrible force”, “Russia knocked out all the shit” apply? Why should I carry such a scribble here - to make a mockery of the site?
  11. +6
    24 February 2018 19: 11
    the war with Russia is the dream of the current government of Ukraine in order to quickly be defeated, to flee abroad, leaving the country with all its problems on us, and to create a "government in exile" there and make a living from it ...
  12. LMN
    +8
    24 February 2018 19: 13
    What nonsense ...

    Experts determine Russia's readiness [for a large-scale war] in three years

    I have a feeling that Russia is ready for a war with Ukraine, as already as a couple of years ago winked

    Muzhenko also added that the promised armies of the tanks "Oplot" will go at her disposal only at the end of this year.

    Nuuu ... here apparently Russia should think about surrendering the Crimea laughing

    How convenient it is to bother, knowing that nothing will happen to you ..
  13. +9
    24 February 2018 19: 17
    We expected to receive tanks at the end of the past - the beginning of this year, but, based on certain technical reasons, that is, the capabilities of our defense industry, we assume that such tanks will be received before the end of 2018.

    where the year is, there are three ... let the technical reasons and possibilities of their defense industry continue to stall, to infinity ...
    1. LMN
      +3
      24 February 2018 21: 40
      Quote: Masya Masya
      We expected to receive tanks at the end of the past - the beginning of this year, but, based on certain technical reasons, that is, the capabilities of our defense industry, we assume that such tanks will be received before the end of 2018.

      where the year is, there are three ... let the technical reasons and possibilities of their defense industry continue to stall, to infinity ...

      Funny .. but in this regard they remind .. Russia))
  14. +4
    24 February 2018 19: 27
    Ukraine to this, led for a long time! The last “face” was said in Munich when parAskhenko got the go-ahead for the law on the “reintegration of Donbass,” which clearly states that Russia is an aggressor and occupier. In unison, the law of the United States, on countering the enemies of America, was immediately outlined. EU, - said nothing.
    From this, it logically follows that the whole West agrees that Russia has long been in the Donbass. Therefore, in fact, Russia does not need to make excuses to the West, in the case of assistance to the Donbass!
  15. +2
    24 February 2018 19: 32
    How long will their army be in case of the use of high-precision, even non-nuclear weapons?
  16. +2
    24 February 2018 19: 33
    white flags for vsu already sewn
  17. +3
    24 February 2018 19: 36
    Quote: Svarog
    They smoke that America gives them ... and all this is not a joke. They are preparing their people to be meat .. Unfortunately, the time has passed when it was possible to give Lula Bandera without special consequences .. Now everything will be bloody .. And the fact that it will be so no longer has to be doubted.

    Will not be. I read your messages, and some kind of constantly provocative thread. Do you fantasize on your own or by order?
    1. +5
      24 February 2018 20: 36
      Quote: Mentat
      Quote: Svarog
      They smoke that America gives them ... and all this is not a joke. They are preparing their people to be meat .. Unfortunately, the time has passed when it was possible to give Lula Bandera without special consequences .. Now everything will be bloody .. And the fact that it will be so no longer has to be doubted.

      Will not be. I read your messages, and some kind of constantly provocative thread. Do you fantasize on your own or by order?

      Well, judging by the fact that you can’t concretize what you see as provocation, you clearly fantasize and hallucinate)) Be specific.
  18. +5
    24 February 2018 19: 40
    Since the start of hostilities in Ukraine in the Armed Forces, 50 people have received the rank of general, said Viktor Muzhenko, chief of the AFU General Staff in an interview with Radio Liberty.

    Today, Muzhenko announced about “readiness”: “Since 2014, we have been awarded 50 general ranks. Of these, almost all are officers who already had combat experience” ...
    Well, if you count in the generals, then the Ukrainian army really radically strengthened ...

    ps While Muzhenko is dreaming of orders and victories, Russia should include the former "Ukrainian" economic heart (Donbass) in its production chains and allow the Donetsk people to earn money.
    1. +9
      24 February 2018 19: 46
      Quote: samarin1969
      ps While Muzhenko is dreaming of orders and victories, Russia should include the former "Ukrainian" economic heart (Donbass) in its production chains and allow the Donetsk people to earn money.

      This is at least that moo ..
    2. +1
      24 February 2018 20: 20
      Quote: samarin1969
      Russia should include the former "Ukrainian" economic heart (Donbass) in its production chains and enable the Donetsk people to earn money.

      We recognize LDNR as an independent Ukraine. How do you imagine “including Donbass in production chains” if it is a sovereign country (or part of a sovereign country)? Maybe a decision by their government is needed?
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      2. +1
        24 February 2018 20: 28
        Quote: sogdy
        How do you imagine “including Donbass in production chains” if it is a sovereign country

        How to admit? - at least “de facto” .... Even if you fulfill all the “Wishlist” of the USA and its colonies with the Crimea, Georgia, Donbass, Syria, nuclear weapons, “human rights”, and so forth. .... they will not cease to be enemies. ... "Ugh on them" ...
        1. +1
          24 February 2018 20: 37
          Quote: sogdy
          Maybe a decision by their government is needed?

          answer
          Quote: samarin1969
          How to admit? - at least "de facto" .... Even if you fulfill all the "Wishlist" of the United States and its colonies

          Is the holiday going on?
        2. +1
          25 February 2018 00: 13
          Quote: samarin1969
          Quote: sogdy
          How do you imagine “including Donbass in production chains” if it is a sovereign country

          How to admit? - at least de facto
          . De facto does not work out, as bank transactions go through the tan. What TIN should be indicated in the payment order for the transfer of funds to the Donbass? You can not be slightly pregnant. It is necessary to recognize LDNR de jure. That's just our leadership does not need this, apparently.
          1. +1
            25 February 2018 00: 15
            Transactions go through the United States of America.
  19. +1
    24 February 2018 19: 41
    But what about the parade of the great Khokhlopobeda on the aggressor and the parade on Red Square?
  20. +1
    24 February 2018 19: 43
    I mean, are you ready to capitulate at any moment? And as for the real army and real war - these are all "wet mriyas" of the puberty ...
  21. +3
    24 February 2018 19: 46
    Finally, Muzhenko admitted that there was no aggression from Russia. He is only getting ready for her. Or does he introduce new concepts: small aggression, aggression, full-blown aggression? Truly, the Great Ukr’s brains are “on one side” ...
  22. +6
    24 February 2018 19: 49
    The war of the Russian Federation with Ukraine is a Yankee dream. They will never wait. But while we have capitalism, we will depend on the puppeteer, who stamps dollars.
  23. +1
    24 February 2018 19: 56
    This is how much you need to drink or get money to make such statements.
  24. 0
    24 February 2018 19: 57
    configuration-defensive. But not against the Russian Federation, but against the winds and the Wentorg. With the Russian Federation officially the Big Agreement and the proud name is "Kraina aggressor" laughing
    The General Staff here is the main thing for partners and domestic consumption broadcast.
  25. 0
    24 February 2018 20: 03
    Well, are you all cursing?) Look into these eyes, they have answers to all questions))
  26. +1
    24 February 2018 20: 04
    And you yourself will start a war, or you will wait for Russia.
  27. +3
    24 February 2018 20: 06
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Donskoy
    It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.

    Unfortunately, not many people understand this. This is another miscalculation of the country's leadership. Which will turn into a lot of blood.

    It seems that you are claiming the role of a super brain. An extraterrestrial intelligence of epic proportions, which could determine the next mistake of the country's leadership, is hidden behind your pop avatar.
    Vyonosh, apparently, does not understand that all variants of such decisions pass through several analytical centers with dozens of highly specialized people.
    But grunt on the forum about a lot of blood is a must. If something looks like an agent of influence and stinks like an agent of influence, then it is an agent of influence. Of course, there are still problems in our country, according to the proverb: "There are two problems in Russia - fools and roads."
    1. +8
      24 February 2018 20: 40
      ahaha .. here you are funny ..
      Quote: Mentat
      Vyonosh, apparently, does not understand that all variants of such decisions pass through several analytical centers with dozens of highly specialized people.

      Well, let's talk)) The first question for you, do you think that dozens of highly specialized specialists are not mistaken? Or maybe they also do not execute commands? And most importantly, what do you think, when Libya was surrendered - is it a miscalculation of experts or political will? To be honest, answer yourself these questions, then the vass will no longer have questions for me))
      1. +1
        24 February 2018 21: 02
        Quote: Svarog
        ? And most importantly, what do you think, when Libya was surrendered - is it a miscalculation of experts or political will?

        The second time I ask: when and to whom did they deliver Libya?
        And the second time I repeat: I was still young, I read in the Bulgarian and Yugoslav newspapers fresh reports from the third civilian since independence in Libya. Since then, Libya has not become negotiable.
        By the way, a photo of a bearded man with a bazooka is from Libya, guards of the Communist Party headquarters. There was one. Bulgarian photo.
        Now I have grandchildren.
        1. +6
          24 February 2018 21: 19
          Quote: sogdy
          The second time I ask: when and to whom did they deliver Libya?

          Well, if you do not own the topic, then what is the conversation about?))
          1. +2
            24 February 2018 21: 44
            Quote: Svarog
            Well, if you do not own the topic, then what is the conversation about?))

            There is no topic. From the word Absolutely. There is a dumb drive. At the level of brutal rape of bullshit.
    2. +1
      24 February 2018 20: 47
      Quote: Mentat
      An extraterrestrial intelligence of epic proportions, which could determine the next mistake of the country's leadership, is hidden behind your pop avatar.

      The "age of salvation of the World" usually coincides with the puberty. Otherwise, we should talk about a delay in development.
      Goblins (Internet agents of influence) are usually people with developmental delays. They are the most suggestible.
      Quote: Mentat
      If something looks like an agent of influence and stinks like an agent of influence, then it is an agent of influence.

      Well, I’m more tolerant lol
      1. +3
        24 February 2018 21: 23
        Quote: sogdy
        The "age of salvation of the World" usually coincides with the puberty. Otherwise, we should talk about developmental delays. People with developmental delays usually go to goblins (Internet agents of influence). They are the most suggestible.

        This is your subjective opinion, which is based on the fact that you do not accept other opinions other than your own and coincide with your opinion, and this suggests that you have a narrow horizons, at least .. And according to the rules of the site, you’re now at ban .. Although I am not one of those who complain, but for the future, I would like you to observe the rules, because it is more pleasant to communicate without insults))
        1. +1
          24 February 2018 22: 32
          Quote: Svarog
          This is your subjective opinion, which is based on the fact that you do not accept other opinions,

          This is Dr. Spock. And many years of experience raising fighters, children and dogs. This is also stated by pedagogy and child psychology. So shta is an objective history.
          Quote: Svarog
          I would like you to observe the rules, because it is more pleasant to communicate without insults))

          Svarog, you are Russophobic nonsense, trying to mislead readers. Count your posts. And yet, read the current site rules. And do not invent on the go, as the American "political" figures. They have a French justice system, we have only facts, gossip and fiction do not work.
          1. +5
            24 February 2018 22: 48
            Quote: sogdy
            Svarog, you are Russophobic nonsense, trying to mislead readers

            What is the nonsense? And why do you think I mislead readers, and not you? Justify?
            Quote: sogdy
            And do not invent on the go, as the American "political" figures.

            What did I invent on the go?

            Quote: sogdy
            American "political" figures. They have a French justice system,

            Do American Politicians Have a French Justice System? )))


            Quote: sogdy
            They have a French justice system, we have only facts, gossip and fiction do not work.

            Well, bring that fact to you. I’m giving you my conclusions, which are based on facts and do not pretend that I am absolutely right in everything, and I would like to hear reasoned answers from my opponent, but in our case, only hallucinations .. Doesn’t the exchange of opinions lead to the truth?
  28. +2
    24 February 2018 20: 35
    The dullness of dill is already going through the roof ... Russia needs, according to an Eastern saying, to sit quietly on the river bank and soon the corpse of dill will swim by ....
    1. +1
      25 February 2018 00: 51
      Quote: nnz226
      The dullness of dill is already going through the roof ... Russia needs, according to an Eastern saying, to sit quietly on the river bank and soon the corpse of dill will swim by ....

      The Chinese also thought so in 1931, until the Kwantung army arrived. So with Bandera - do not sit out. Impunity breeds permissiveness.
  29. +2
    24 February 2018 20: 39
    In 1996, Muzhenko graduated from the Academy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,

    That says it all. .. And the "soul" rushed to paradise, and ....
    Selling bastard, and also studied in Leningrad .. And why didn’t I meet him on the bridge when I went to museums? Who knew that from this ..grow such a h / j about. sad
  30. 0
    24 February 2018 20: 41
    Well, why should I have to blame them for responsibility for such words, and without a period of added value. Moron in uniform, this is the most dangerous diversity. The individual is not able to assess the consequences of his tube of chatter.
    Well, or fight yourself then, which you can’t tear off your ass from a warm chair.
  31. +2
    24 February 2018 20: 42
    Today I finished eight times !!!
    And she???
    But she did not come ....
  32. +1
    24 February 2018 20: 50
    People say about such "hubby" "This guy has been overeaten overeat or fell off the stove!"
  33. +5
    24 February 2018 20: 51
    Here you are all joking here and kidding yourself - a "clinical case", "we will throw in calibers", but the situation is not at all funny. It is unlikely that anyone will deny that over the 25 years of “nezalezhnosti” the Ukrainian media created a huge layer of young people who hate Russia and are ready to kill because of this. Plus the political situation. when it is impossible to avoid a military conflict or involves enormous image losses. That is, on both sides, conflict is inevitable. And that will happen sooner or later. despite the howls from Kiev about the "Russian aggression" and the mantra from Moscow "about the need to comply with Minsk-2." Without entering into a discussion with the first. nor with the second, I remind you that I wrote for a long time about that. that the Kremlin’s main mistake regarding the DPR and LPR is that at the right time they didn’t make a very difficult, but also very correct decision (everyone understands what time and what decision I’m talking about), but they behaved as forgiveness .. Lord. The reasons for this are at the heart of our state system - i.e. state-oligarchic capitalism. The risks for the oligarchs were too great. So these oligarchs will sell us all, if it seems to them that protecting the interests of Russia is too much a risk. Think about it. First they sold Libya and Yugoslavia, then Donbass. Who is next in line?
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    2. +8
      24 February 2018 21: 49
      Quote: Neputin
      ... So these oligarchs will sell us all, if it seems to them that protecting the interests of Russia is too much a risk. Think about it. First they sold Libya and Yugoslavia, then Donbass. Who is next in line? ...

      You are responsible for yourself.
      If you feel that you are being sold, remove the price tag from your forehead.
      You do not intend to defend Russia: you already have an arrow on the oligarchs, prepared ahead of time.
      1. +2
        24 February 2018 23: 55
        You, dear Marshal, do not sign for me if you need people like me, captains. and they’ll go to defend their homeland, but where you will be — it will still have to be seen whether you are our patriotic. And I didn’t have a price tag on my forehead. maybe that's why he could not achieve the marshal epaulettes in life.
        1. +9
          25 February 2018 00: 18
          Quote: Neputin
          ... You, dear Marshal, do not sign for me if you need people like me, captains. and they’ll go to defend their homeland, but where you will be — it will still have to be seen whether you are our patriotic. And I didn’t have a price tag on my forehead. maybe that’s why he couldn’t achieve marshal epaulettes for life ...

          I don’t need to sign for you.
          You hung the price tag on yourself - when you started to moan that you were sold.
          You are not at a pre-election rally, and your pronouns “we,” “us,” are about nothing.
          From all fell off. Only you mixed up, here is not a pack, but people. Not worse than you.
          You speak for yourself.
          Your opponents are talking specifically with you, but you are "us", "us" and the arrows are moving.
          PS Being a lieutenant, an old man, a captain, a major and a lieutenant colonel - I drove through the mountains of shaitans, while people like you threw slogans and found out who is more patriotic and who is closer to the feeding trough.
          That’s why I’m a patriot, and you continue to throw manure on the fan and protect “Homeland” sitting on the couchhi
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            1. +7
              25 February 2018 02: 23
              Quote: Neputin
              ... It would be easier for me to sit in the trench and clearly know where the enemy is and where not ...

              In the mountains, the enemy begins behind the toe of his own boot.
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                1. +9
                  25 February 2018 02: 46
                  Quote: Neputin
                  ... Sit here for 15 thousand a month for at least six months - I'll see how you whine. And do not steal! ...

                  Mom and Dad did not learn to whine. I am retired and working. In the dashing 90s, thanks to the repainted party nomenclature, I and my family sat for six months without a salary. In order to buy milk for the kids, he took off his uniform and unloaded the cars.
                  Nobody forces you to steal. I do not like to "sit" for 15 tyrov; work either more or elsewhere. As an option - try the "paddle" in the hands and in the mountains, under the contract. You will appreciate the earnings.
                  If you want to change your life for the better, do not impose alien ideas on people.
    3. +3
      24 February 2018 22: 15
      Quote: Neputin
      It is unlikely that anyone will deny that over the 25 years of “nezalezhnosti” Ukrainian media have created a huge layer of young people who hate Russia and are ready to kill because of this

      still a sensible man was found
      Quote: Neputin
      Without entering into a discussion with the first. nor with the second, I remind you that I wrote for a long time about that. that the main mistake of the Kremlin in relation to the DPR and LPR is that at the right time they didn’t accept the very difficult, but the very correct

      Undoubtedly, and sometimes played along with Ukraine (cancellation of the throw to Mariupol)

      Quote: Neputin
      The risks for the oligarchs were too great. So these oligarchs will sell us all, if it seems to them that protecting the interests of Russia is too much a risk.

      that’s how they still work quietly in Ukraine, and Ukrainian ones in Russia.
      The march to Mariupol was stopped at the request of the Russian oligarchs in response to the corresponding request of Akhmetov.
    4. 0
      24 February 2018 23: 09
      So we are in line. Actually, we have already been sold for cut, dyed paper.
  34. +4
    24 February 2018 20: 58
    A CNN correspondent asks a question to VSUshnik in the Donbass.
    - Who are you fighting in the Donbass?
    - With the Russian Army!
    - And why do not you conquer the Crimea?
    -Yes, are you there, the Russian Army!
  35. +2
    24 February 2018 20: 59
    That way Svidomity conquer the whole universe
  36. +1
    24 February 2018 21: 02
    winked What things have already been transported?
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  38. +1
    24 February 2018 21: 04
    Dolby. The civil war is already lasting longer than the Second World War, and they are all looking for Russian troops.
  39. +1
    24 February 2018 21: 11
    charges laid, it remains only to bring the wick. Is Poroshenko smart enough not to bring a match?
    1. +1
      24 February 2018 21: 41
      War requires reserves and resources. Do you see them in Ukraine?
      1. +2
        24 February 2018 22: 49
        Quote: sogdy
        War requires reserves and resources. Do you see them in Ukraine?

        enough for a while. But in this situation, for Poroshenko the worse, the better. Ukraine will win, he’s done, he will lose, the enemy is strong, he will explode in the EU. For him, in this situation, the main participation. The result is not important for him.
      2. +2
        25 February 2018 00: 04
        Unfortunately, you, sogdy, quite primitively represent the economic situation in Ukraine. It is almost Russia. only a little less. Starting from the 90s, we all gradually sink to the bottom. Yes, and we too, as if we were not broadcast on TV about "space successes." However, no one has died of hunger in Russia so far. And in Ukraine too. The backlog made by the “damned communists” was too great, and the inertia was great, thanks to which our territories can still survive, no matter what.
        1. +1
          25 February 2018 00: 47
          Quote: Neputin
          imagine the economic situation in Ukraine. It is almost Russia. only a little less

          very good thought. Remember how our commentators in the boxes choked with drool, shouting about the default of Ukraine! Where is the default?
        2. +9
          25 February 2018 00: 55
          Quote: Neputin
          ... Starting from the 90s, we all gradually sink to the bottom ...
          ... However, so far no one has died of hunger in Russia ...
          ... The backlog made by the "damned communists" turned out to be too great ...

          A lecture on communists outside the context of the topic of the article.
          But since you have touched her:
          1. Famously You started from the 90s. The only trouble is that the communist traitor Gorbachev led to this collapse. This betrayal continued - a gang of communists in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. The communist traitor Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin ruined everything, from the word completely everything and gave all the former state property to the hands of the top Communists, Komsomol members - new bigwigs of the "capitalist" business. It was the communist-Komsomol functionaries who brought the country to poverty.
          2. In Russia, and in / in used Ukraine, people will not die of hunger, because they rely on themselves, and not because of the mythical “backlog”. They survived in spite of the "communist backlog."
          PS Respected. The site is called "Military Review".
          Military, Karl - not political, Karl.
          You are engaged in a frank flood, violation of the rules of this site hi
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              1. +6
                25 February 2018 03: 07
                Quote: Neputin
                ... Suggest a topic for discussion. The public froze and trembles in anticipation ...

                Do not flood.
                The topic of discussion was proposed by VO.
            2. +8
              25 February 2018 02: 52
              Quote: Neputin
              ... Contact the Sex Reform League. They will help you there. I can not understand. Andrey K., are you on duty today? There are many of you everywhere. This is alarming ...

              I do not advise to be rude, well, him. Have you been in this league? Problems? You have a mania - is something worrying you?
      3. 0
        25 February 2018 05: 49
        The resources and reserves will be provided to them by the owners of the Fed from all garbage dumps in Eastern Europe (the Baltic states, Poles, Magyars, Ustashi, etc.)
        1. 0
          25 February 2018 08: 59
          Quote: zoolu350
          The resources and reserves will be provided to them by the owners of the Fed from all garbage dumps in Eastern Europe (the Baltic states, Poles, Magyars, Ustashi, etc.)

          That's because byada, they don’t provide aviation to the natives, they don’t say it should Yes And without aviation on the battlefield, it’s to be meat!
          1. 0
            25 February 2018 12: 22
            Many aviation APU flew over Donbas? Do not make a bogeyman from aviation. As shown by the wars in Korea and Vietnam with an adequate moral and psychological state, discipline and tactics, you can fight without aviation support.
            1. 0
              25 February 2018 19: 16
              Quote: zoolu350
              Many aviation APU flew over Donbas? Do not make a bogeyman from aviation.

              That’s why it didn’t fly that we closed the sky! If God forbid there will be a conflict between us, we will fight with aviation.
  40. +1
    24 February 2018 21: 14
    God be with them ... get ready ...
    Well, we won’t come again, and because of this we will be to blame ...
  41. wow
    +1
    24 February 2018 21: 14
    The hoopoe is sad ....
  42. +2
    24 February 2018 21: 24
    Prepared to fight? Ukraine has already destroyed 20 Pskov armored diving divisions, 100500 Cheburashka and tore the Russian economy to shreds.
    It’s scary to imagine what's next ...
    Will it really reach the expanses of the galaxy?
    1. 0
      24 February 2018 21: 40
      another Armat division ..
    2. 0
      24 February 2018 22: 12
      Mu-Poroshenko after drinking and not tell ...
  43. +1
    24 February 2018 21: 26
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: you Vlad
    Quote: Donskoy
    It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.

    And get a guerrilla war and thousands of corpses with a conflict for decades to come! Winning the war is not a problem, there is no need for a lot of brains, the problem is in Ukrainian people with brainwashed!

    Partisan wars are the past. With today's technology, they will not. And there are no forests left in Ukraine)) But at the expense of brains, you're right. And to bring them back to their place, we need strength. And then, whoever doesn’t run away to the west needs to be washed. Already in peacetime. That was all already. Remember how the great USSR developed. And believe me, the country's leadership knows all this. The only reason they are not so decisive is money, children, real estate from partners ..

    You are directly operating with Napoleonic categories, and forests by the way in Ukraine have been preserved in the Carpathians, for example
    1. +4
      24 February 2018 22: 11
      the forest IS BUT HIS LITTLE and not Toko in the Carpathians, there is just a little left ...
    2. +3
      24 February 2018 22: 17
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      Quote: Svarog
      Quote: you Vlad
      Quote: Donskoy
      It must be understood that they are ready better than in the 14 year, when Ukraine could be taken in a week or two.

      And get a guerrilla war and thousands of corpses with a conflict for decades to come! Winning the war is not a problem, there is no need for a lot of brains, the problem is in Ukrainian people with brainwashed!

      Partisan wars are the past. With today's technology, they will not. And there are no forests left in Ukraine)) But at the expense of brains, you're right. And to bring them back to their place, we need strength. And then, whoever doesn’t run away to the west needs to be washed. Already in peacetime. That was all already. Remember how the great USSR developed. And believe me, the country's leadership knows all this. The only reason they are not so decisive is money, children, real estate from partners ..

      You are directly operating with Napoleonic categories, and forests by the way in Ukraine have been preserved in the Carpathians, for example

      Can you explain? For the first time I hear about the Napoleonic categories?
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  45. +1
    24 February 2018 21: 29
    Plan ... We have a plan! By smoking ... But seriously ... Then they have one plan .. Attack Russia and immediately surrender ...
    1. 0
      25 February 2018 04: 27
      It’s scary to accept surrender again means freeloaders to "sit" on their neck, fire !!!
  46. +2
    24 February 2018 21: 30
    Once, one of these patients was about to hold a parade in Sevastopol, and as a result, he himself was expelled from the Armed Forces. The Light of God has not yet seen such morons and the rank of generals. Lord save and save their sinful souls!
    1. 0
      24 February 2018 21: 42
      But we have 65 new generals ....
      Lord ... when is our turn?
  47. +2
    24 February 2018 21: 34
    Quote: Svarog
    And I really argue with that, I agree! Even a plus to you! In general, Crimea is Putin’s only serious achievement, but then .. what's next ..

    Or can you remind you that Putin called on Donbass not to rush to hold a referendum? Apparently, there was another plan. And then it all went wrong ...
  48. +3
    24 February 2018 21: 34
    I read the article, read the comments. What can I say?
    Firstly, comrade Vlad, you do not clearly know the use of the -Ne and -Ni -... particles, which, as be, implies.
    And I’ll say only one thing to Svarog - to wave with nothing at all. We drove, my friend. Although everything is correct .. but at the wrong time. Either terribly late ... or no other options.
    And as for the partisans and the rest of the nonsense - let those who have reviewed films about the Great Patriotic War watch once again the series of films The Matrix. If they don’t draw conclusions again, well, I’m not their judge.
    The yellow-and-blue “dishes” are not only converted twice in a jump, they will also perform a cascade of a quad axel with a five sheepskin coat. Without stopping licking the ass to the owner.
    One thing is insulting - this nonsense-general Muzhenko, because he graduated from our schools and academies.
    But the brains and HONOR were never made. Who is to blame and what to do?
    Maybe - NOT THAT at the Academy they took? .... Accordingly - and ours, now, are the same, huh?
    1. +4
      24 February 2018 22: 05
      I plus you for generalizing, in my opinion, clearly and correctly. But what are the suggestions? What is your thought?
      Quote: Bashibuzuk



      I read the article, read the comments. What can I say?
  49. 0
    24 February 2018 21: 38
    Quote: Svarog
    Well, yes, it’s kind of agreed with Hitler too .. You are either a naive young man or something else .. what kind of agreement .. the war is going on ..

    Usually you do not bear peddling.
    Swan (the elder) had an excellent work on robbery on the dividing line. It corresponds to the situation in the ATO zone.
    The rest is your personal nonsense. Or, indeed, Russophobia.
    As far as I know, most of the "recruited as volunteers" surfaced in Dagestan as slaves.
    1. +4
      24 February 2018 22: 08
      Quote: sogdy
      The rest is your personal nonsense. Or, indeed, Russophobia. As far as I know, most of the "recruited as volunteers" surfaced in Dagestan as slaves.

      I don’t understand what are you talking about? With the first lines everything is clear, but here I do not understand .. Explain?
  50. SOF
    +2
    24 February 2018 21: 53
    Lieutenant Captain,
    ... And maybe enough PAPER ??? I read you at Kassad, the monster ... What's your name, Makan, Mannergy, Guner or 555?
    Shut your mouth and heal your Urkaine essence ....
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  51. 0
    24 February 2018 21: 53
    tell this to Napoleon Hitler and others like that :)
  52. 0
    24 February 2018 22: 05
    smokes a lot and it’s not tobacco, I think so, it’s from hubby, and then, like in the movies, - Katz offers to surrender, - the hardest thing for the Russian Federation is partisanship., and it will be. There are a lot of brainwashed people in Ukraine, and there are a lot of Nazis...
  53. +2
    24 February 2018 22: 14
    The people of Russia will have to clean up all this crap. It is obvious that fascism is a priority in Ukraine and is no longer controlled by the quasi-government. These statements are a litmus test and the beginning of preparations for actions against Russia. Nothing new, a well-established scenario for the Americans.
  54. +1
    24 February 2018 22: 15
    There’s nothing to comment on here, just take a look at it... why are there so many idiots in a single non-state? Maybe the colors of the flag work?
    1. +4
      25 February 2018 03: 11
      It was an alarming March 2018.
      After five boilers, the APU launched a decisive counterattack at all
      sectors of the front. The determination of the Ukrainian soldiers reached such an intensity that they no longer needed weapons. They abandoned their machine guns and ran indomitably to the Russian border with their bare hands, furiously breaking through to the field kitchens and lining up in indestructible lines near them.
  55. +1
    24 February 2018 22: 17
    Every time I look at a photo or video with the participation of Mrs. Merkel, I can’t help but want to draw a mustache under my nose. It turns out to be a familiar portrait. Don't you find it?
  56. 0
    24 February 2018 22: 18
    In one week he will be defeated...
  57. 0
    24 February 2018 22: 20
    Lately there has been too much noise around Donbass. Something is planned, apparently in the spring:
    1. Legalized the use of the army against civilians;
    2. The Russian Federation was declared an aggressor;
    3. Pull forces to the demarcation line;
    4. Articles by British Foreign Minister Boris Johnson about the “illegal annexation of Crimea” appeared in the gay world, clearly to justify the killing of civilians under the guise of fighting the occupiers.
  58. +2
    24 February 2018 22: 23
    Ukrainian idiots are going to throw hats at Russia. Russian idiots are shaking their hats at America... At the same time, both of them like to point fingers at each other and laugh.
  59. +1
    24 February 2018 22: 30
    Muzhinko. Look in the mirror. Damn warrior!
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  61. 0
    24 February 2018 22: 42
    The operation to enforce peace will begin with the submission of you know WHO
  62. 0
    24 February 2018 22: 47
    They feel that a trend is coming to them, so they talk nonsense.
  63. 0
    24 February 2018 23: 08
    These interesting people actually believe what they say.....?
    1. 0
      24 February 2018 23: 20
      Iskander m buy...
  64. +6
    24 February 2018 23: 38
    Quote: Captain of the Lieutenants
    ...I'm guilty, I lost my temper request
    Well so, not to take 25 steps? belay And so it’s possible Yes

    Drink coffee with honey, it invigorates and calms.
    The most amazing thing!!!
    He retired, his wife is now spoiling him.
    It's no good to be nervous request
  65. 0
    25 February 2018 00: 01
    Maybe it's time to realize that eventually we'll have to kick this fucking hornet's nest. Maybe it’s time to understand that since you made a mistake by allowing this horror for yourself there, you shouldn’t make a second one, thinking that everything will go away on its own, they’ll come to their senses, come to their senses, etc. And leave it all like that, to chance. The West poured a bag of yeast into it, this mess cannot be stopped, it will run anyway. So we will have to pay for the second mistake?
  66. 0
    25 February 2018 00: 08
    Petunya has killer grass!!!!!
  67. +1
    25 February 2018 00: 13
    Wow! How to participate in full-scale combat operations without a critical component such as the Air Force?
    1. Alexander Menshikov
      0
      25 February 2018 03: 46
      They have two MIG!!!
  68. +1
    25 February 2018 00: 15
    Quote: Icarus
    And the very first shelling of the territory of the LDPR must be stopped harshly, very harshly (for example, with calibers, etc.).

    in Kyiv or Zaporozhye?
  69. +2
    25 February 2018 02: 19
    Looking at this crawling animal there is nothing special to comment on... angry
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  71. Alexander Menshikov
    0
    25 February 2018 03: 44
    The further into the forest, the thicker the partisans!!))
  72. Alexander Menshikov
    0
    25 February 2018 03: 48
    Where will we bury them all?
  73. 0
    25 February 2018 03: 52
    Well, I wouldn't laugh at this statement.
    We are not talking about an offensive war
    It's about resisting invaders.
    that is, partisanship.
    And in this situation, purely theoretically,
    they can defend themselves a lot.
    Let's remember the same Chechnya.
    So, well, basically the dude told the truth.
  74. 0
    25 February 2018 04: 20
    It’s you and the pigs with company - ask the people, are they thinking of fighting? or they are waiting for “when the Muscovites will come.” You've already bothered the whole world.
  75. +1
    25 February 2018 05: 28
    Let Muzhenko, for starters, climb onto the roof of his General Staff and look from there at eastern Ghouta... There are now some people there who are getting wet, drying someone, and getting wet again, so that the State Department is sick of it...
  76. 0
    25 February 2018 06: 17
    I absolutely don’t understand....why is the most lame and deceitful radio called “freedom”?
  77. +1
    25 February 2018 06: 45
    Quote: Svarog
    Europe has drawn the line and that's it


    Europe can only draw a line on its own backside to make it more convenient for the United States to use it.
    In 2014, Russia annexed what it could annex without overstraining itself. In the Donbass, as well as in other regions of what was then Ukraine, the whole idea of ​​Novorossiya and joining Russia was started by local oligarchs and the top government to bargain with Kiev.
    If it were not for the irrepressible bloodthirstiness of Bandera’s followers, there would be no trace of the DPR and LPR.
    In Russia, everyone understood perfectly well that in 2014 they would have to fight not with the Ukrainian army, but with an army armed with NATO. Using the example of Syria, we can see that the Americans used all the most modern weapons against us there in 2014, which we simply had nothing to counteract in XNUMX.
    Moreover, the belief of the Ukrainian population that everything will be fine in Ukraine (Europe will shower it with gold and they will panic like kings) was widespread.
    Now even the most stubborn Maidan resident understands that he was stupidly abandoned, having destroyed the country with his hands.
  78. +1
    25 February 2018 07: 48
    Everything will be different "brothers"... Pass this on to your masters overseas!
  79. +2
    25 February 2018 08: 07
    Gentlemen, couch strategists! Let me remind you that you are trying to compare the incomparable. During all 25 years of the so-called independence, the process of returning to Russia was constantly going on in Crimea. This happened through different forms, the attempts never stopped. In fact, Crimea never considered itself part of Ukraine, this predetermined the events that took place, which is why there were no casualties. No one objected to the return! And in Khakhland, where did the same processes take place? In Donbass? Odessa? Kharkiv region? Nowhere! Everyone was enthusiastically building Ridna's nenka. Everyone wanted to live well, but somehow they didn’t remember Russia. And when the frying pan got hot under the ass, and everyone ran somewhere: to the EU or to Russia, then it turned out that the Russian Federation was not ready to fulfill various wishes. Moreover, the GDP initially understood that most wishes are initiated from behind the hill, and not from the heart. In such conditions, throwing yourself into the water without knowing the ford... This is only done in ward number 6. Russia hasn’t abandoned its friends anyway; it has accepted refugees, sends humanitarian aid, doesn’t hinder volunteers, and covers them in the international arena. But to enter a country split in civil strife and find yourself caught between two fires (which is what Zapod is trying to achieve!)? Yes, GDP acted more than carefully! Nobody officially invited us there.
    And this whip Muzhenko is an empty chattering head, in which there are no thoughts of his own, babbling whatever he is ordered to do. If only they had been confident in their abilities, they would have leveled Donbass to 0 long ago! And so they twist their tail, clamped between their legs, and chatter their teeth out of fear, and some all-goers think it’s out of anger. When the time comes, the Russian Federation will have to put earrings in all the sisters’ ears; they won’t ask for more!
  80. 0
    25 February 2018 08: 41
    https://glav.su/forum/4/38/messages/4772785/#mess
    age4772785
    Since the beginning of the war, 50 new generals have appeared in the Ukrainian Armed Forces
  81. 0
    25 February 2018 09: 07
    avt,
    in Zrad...
  82. 0
    25 February 2018 10: 32
    Colleagues, who knows the mobile number of this Minister of Defense? Drop your number. We need to call urgently, otherwise, man, it seems that the “aggression” has been going on for 4 years. Or at least let me invite you to the meeting if Petya doesn’t invite you. And regarding the supply of strongholds, I give advice “for free”: it’s faster and cheaper to buy it back from the Thais.
    1. +1
      25 February 2018 10: 47
      Quote: Fil743
      Colleagues, who knows the mobile number of this Minister of Defense? Drop your number.

      “Hot line” for the masses to the Chief of the General Staff - Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - (044) 454-45-73
  83. +1
    25 February 2018 10: 42
    It looks like Muzhenko and Poroshenko are planning to declare war on Russia, quickly surrender and let the “ahressor” feed them. Well, I want more freebies.
  84. +1
    25 February 2018 10: 57
    Muzhenko stressed that Ukraine needs to be ready to repel aggression at any time.

    I don't understand a damn thing. So aggression and occupation are already taking place or are they just being prepared? They cannot agree among themselves to even lie in agreement. fool
  85. +2
    25 February 2018 11: 35
    Ukraine is ready to repel “full-scale aggression” on the part of Russia. This was announced to the Ukrainian service of Radio Liberty by the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (MAT), Victor Muzhenko.

  86. 0
    25 February 2018 11: 50
    We might be ready for three weeks while we concentrate our forces, but then we’ll have to pack our bags.
  87. +1
    25 February 2018 11: 52
    As far as I know, from my colleagues who remained in Ukraine, their sons were forcibly drafted into the Ukrainian army, they say that the so-called army of Ukraine (at least the larger half) does not want to fight with Russia, they are serving under the “stick”, a hopeless situation, unemployment. Hatred towards the national battalions is off the charts. Well, Muzhenko earns his “bread” and lies, lies, lies, because he knows how his life ends after retirement.
  88. 0
    25 February 2018 12: 39
    This general is already ready for his own funeral. Well, let's bury...
  89. 0
    25 February 2018 13: 37
    We have worked out plans for various options, taking into account the threats that exist around Ukraine, and we are preparing troops

    That is, the act of surrender has already been signed, sealed.... All that remains is to insert the date.
  90. +1
    25 February 2018 20: 28
    The General Staff smelled of courage.....
  91. 0
    26 February 2018 06: 08
    What can your rabble reflect? You can only get each other wet.