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The cult of power and the untouchables caste is the next stage in the development of Russia

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The cult of personality is such a thing, without which there is no way in Russia. Historically. There must be a kind king-father, father-benefactor of all Russia, and vile boyars. Must be the object of worship.

Actually, with those who say that in modern Russia there is a cult of Putin’s personality, I don’t want to argue. As they say, there would be a Person, and a cult ... Well, if without it without it, it means nothing.

We must pray to somebody — well, well ...

Another question, when there is HE, the king, the leader, the president, somehow, is not the point. The essence is in the cleanliness of the image of HIS, integrity, and so on. The object of faith and worship should be just that. Honest, clean, incorruptible. Able to leave behind a mighty empire, darned uniform and a pair of worn boots.

And, not least, he has the right to be under jurisdiction. Not criticized and non-negotiable. He can devote films, paintings, name his avenues (even in life) and so on.

This is normal. We understand that, since the cult of personality for Russia is a common occurrence, then all of the above is normal.

But what if at the lower levels they also want to be no worse?

Not in terms of work, patriotism, integrity, honesty and other things. Unfortunately not. But just the lack of jurisdiction and immunity - is highly desirable.

The president is understandable. Deputies - it is clear. The rest where?

And it didn’t start everything yesterday, much earlier. It's just that the last time of obscurantism is taking on an absolutely vulgar scale.

As examples, let's start with those that are three letters. MIA, FSB and others.

The fact that our police were almost the most defenseless, 10 years ago, only the lazy did not speak. Okay, well, the police were renamed, a new form was given, the rows were “cleaned”.

However, as died in the former police, and now the police walls, and citizens die. As no responsibility for this, the police did not carry, and do not bear. Case sadistic executioners in Kazan, remember? When was the man tortured? All the killer law enforcement officers got off with a suspended time frame.

The day is today. February 22, St. Petersburg. 34-year-old detainee Ruslan Klychev "suicide" in an insulator. Although before this, in social networks, he said that he was detained for nothing. Yes, the UK filed a case. According to the article "negligence." Overlooked, you know how Klychev committed suicide.

They will probably punish the guilty. Premiums will be deprived of quarterly for sure.

Yes, and the end is something very good so come up with. Using this law, our law enforcement officers charge people behind bars only hold on. It is about resistance and threats to life.

Dozens of cases in the country. Yes, and we talked about one thing. A resident of Lipetsk Gorin FSB presses and apparently planted. For the threats. An assault team of 3 people, 2 witnesses, 2 representative of the FSB. And to all of them, one collector robbed threatened. Hitting his head against the walls, he screamed that he would be deprived of life.

And five law enforcement officers were so frightened by this that they didn’t draw up a protocol, they didn’t turn on the cameras, or tape recorders. Only later, when the robbed Gorin began to write complaints, amicably bleated about the threats.

But there is such confidence that Gorin will sit down.

About the courts.

Everyone probably liked the new Hochma from our authorities. Here, I'm sorry, Ukraine is resting.

“Russians! Be especially careful when passing the road! Driving drunken judges! ”

Just like that, I'm sorry, hang. Not only that before the judges were regularly detained and tried to attract, now - everything. The shop is closed. The DPS officer stops the car, which is zigzagging, and from there, along with fume - the judicial ID.

All you need to take a visor and wish a happy journey. The judge is going ...

It is impossible to put pressure on the court. This judges have the right to relocate anyone.

A strange feeling develops. It turns out that those who are lucky to get into the clip of the "royal oprichina", so everything is possible. Here, even without envy, purely a statement of fact. You can steal from the budget, you can spit in the faces of everyone without exception, you can spit on the law. For, as one politician said in his time, “we are not in a year of 1937”.

But already, it is a pity that it is not 37. Then no one, boldly emphasize, no one was immune from this business. Anyone could have been taken — and moreover ...

Today? And today, "that" is impossible. He works in court. And this is impossible. He is from "his". And so on.

In general, one gets the impression that the czar-father, having tasted the fruits of the work, decided that he should be pampered with the right oprichnina. Benefits and salaries - this is the little things, money for all the shaft. Look what kind of weddings roll in the Krasnodar Territory, any accountant obaldeet.

It is necessary to give the right oprichnina also such rights so that the smerds and serfs even in their thoughts do not hold it across to say or do. Not a servile thing, the power to call right.

Governors, deputies - integrity and integrity.

Prosecutors and courts - inviolability and integrity.

Mayors, deputies - immunity.

FSB, FSK, FSO, FSIN ... In short, all federal services are inviolability.

SC, Ministry of Internal Affairs - immunity, and so they do not judge.

Normal alignment? Why not?

The most interesting thing is exactly what we are going to. Leaps and bounds.

Got into the clip, and your life was a success. The main thing - not to fly out of this clip. That is not to get off so much that their own will be indignant. But this, again, isolated cases, because "we don’t abandon ours."

Exaggerating? Inventing?

Far from it. Documents this year received and dumped the cart. The Internet is filled with information about the rudeness and lawlessness of the "oprichniki", ranging from the patrol traffic police and ending with the judge of the regional scale.

Well, a lot of those who mow under them. There are all kinds of “majorshi FSB”, part-time wives of people pretending to play football for money.

They say we still have 6 years of stability ahead? Let's see for whom.
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  1. Archon
    Archon 28 February 2018 05: 07
    +5
    an ordinary person will not be able to do anything here.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 28 February 2018 06: 47
      +19
      About * an ordinary person * is not worth it.
      The author slipped into evidence, skipping the laws of development of mankind and each person.
      The caste division is a dream for those who want to preserve all relations, especially if they succeeded in sticking or deftly * settling in * near the feeding trough. But the sucker itself is mortal and competitors will push it away from a satisfying place.
      The most striking example is the overthrow of the tsar in the RUSSIAN EMPIRE, when the faithful and devotees were first removed from the throne, and then they arrested the tsar and his entire family.
      Tales of * democracy * are very diverse today. But for some reason, it was the measure of democracy either in monarchist countries, or in a country that unleashed wars to seize the colonies even more than the WB.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 28 February 2018 08: 20
        +27
        But liberals and whiners do not want to try on their own slogans for "developed democracies." Although it was they who "stayed in power" (the world), and "steal and live off at the expense of the people" (the entire planet), etc., etc. Historically proven that the tougher the management style, the faster the result. At this stage, Russia is facing not just hard, but reinforced concrete walls that must be overcome both internally and in order to return to the world level. Soft-bodied democracy (and even more so, its theatrical Western version) is simply not suitable for such tasks. And playing it in a Western manner is the eternal fable of "swan, cancer and pike."
        1. sapporo1959
          sapporo1959 28 February 2018 10: 20
          +9
          So the iron curtain seemed to already exist, but that did not stop imperialism and Zionism with the help of chewing gum and jeans to shake our great principles and achievements in the form of the collapse of the USSR .. So why then step on the same rake again to lose your new principles again? Something like this from the point of view of a simple Russian pensioner!
          1. g1washntwn
            g1washntwn 28 February 2018 10: 39
            +15
            The Iron Curtain is a State Department stamp. So they would like to see the USSR at that time and they are trying to build the same military / economic / information curtain around Russia now. The global model is the future, but this model also provides for two options: the western one - the appearance of democracy and the actual exploitation of "second-rate" participants, or equal rights and equal obligations, which the "world power" will not be able to tolerate. And here the problem arises of how to prevent them from telling the planet their farewell "So don’t get to anyone." Something like that, from the point of view of a citizen of pre-retirement age. Our task is to make peace in the future favorable for everyone, among Americans - America is above all. That's all the buns with pretzels of eternal confrontation.
            1. Palch
              Palch 28 February 2018 11: 52
              +36
              Yeah ... brainwashed you !!! Again you tightened your mantras about America (about the State Department still add to the completeness of the kit). The author does not write about American and State Department influence, but about the decomposition of our society and especially the system of state power to a feudal level.
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 12: 00
                +15
                Palch Today, 11:52 ↑
                Yeah ... brainwashed you !!! Again you tightened your mantras about America (about the State Department still add to the completeness of the kit).
                Well, you are with clearly "brainwashed" brains, right? Tell us how America does not interfere in any elections, how it does not care about Russia and so on. Enlighten us orphans ... laughing
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 28 February 2018 15: 22
                  +7
                  What is the desire for power and how is it motivated?
                  The desire for power is motivated by the desire to streamline - to determine, distribute and protect property.
                  To determine is to pass laws on what is and can be property in general. (Political-ideological, educational and legislative authorities are involved here).
                  Distribute is to pass laws on to whom and how much of the distributed collective property should go and why.
                  To protect is to maintain the legalized content and form of ownership in society by force in an unchanged form.
                  In other words, everything rests on the concept of ownership.
                  Property - these are the additional life resources that help each of us, the people, the nation, the state not only survive, but also develop, enjoy life.

                  Thus, everything rests on the existing socio-political system. Namely, in how many people, how many and what kind of property belongs to the common goods to ensure the natural and artificial wealth of a particular country, nation, people, family.

                  Private oligarchic capitalism for the "elect" is in principle not able to psychologically share with the working people, who remain outside the boundaries of the oligarchic management corporation, i.e. which includes not only the owners of a large share of public property, but also their servants: the legislative and executive branches.

                  In this regard, on the example of modern Ukraine, the Ukrainian Zionist Igor Berkut spoke clearly about Ukraine and its powerful "elites". And all that he said applies to Russians with the only difference: a hundred processes announced by him in the Russian Federation are faster than in Ukraine, since Ukraine is smaller than Russia.

                  5 of millions of inhabitants will be enough for Ukraine, the rest will be utilized by Igor Berkut. Published: 1 Oct. 2014
                  1. Pax tecum
                    Pax tecum 28 February 2018 18: 15
                    +6
                    In the context of the topic, so to speak. An interesting book has a place to be. The name alone reflects the essence and content.
                    "The New Nobility: Essays on the History of the FSB"
                    Authors Irina Borogan, Andrei Soldatov show that this organization not so much inherited the style of Soviet state security as fit into the framework of clan capitalism. The New Nobility is a calm survey of real power in today's Russia.
                    The former FSB chief called his officers "new nobles." Blurted out without thinking.

                    And what is the "new nobility" we all remember from the course of world history?
                    The new nobility is the “new nobility”, part of the English nobility in the 16-17 centuries, which, unlike the old, traditional nobility, adapted to the development of capitalist relations in the country.
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 28 February 2018 19: 38
                      +3
                      Quote: Pax tecum
                      The New Nobility: Essays on the History of the FSB "
                      Authors Irina Borogan, Andrei Soldatov show that this organization did not so much inherit the style of Soviet state security as fit into the framework of clan capitalism.
                      And they also howl about the fact that this nobility without unnecessary ceremonies arranged for the mopping up of fighters who had escaped from Chechnya and were pushing with all their might the idea that we did not need normal special services. And the number of enthusiastic reviews from the foreign press.
                      Quote: Pax tecum
                      The former FSB chief called his officers "new nobles." Blurted out without thinking.

                      Actually, he said:
                      - I do not want to say high words, but our best employees, the honor and pride of the FSB, do not work for money. When I have to give our children government awards, I carefully look at their faces. High-minded intellectual analysts, broad-shouldered weathered special forces soldiers, silent explosive technicians, strict investigators, restrained opera counterintelligence ... Outwardly they are different, but there is one important quality that unites them - these are service people, if you want, modern "noblemen"
                  2. Vladimir 5
                    Vladimir 5 28 February 2018 21: 22
                    +3
                    This is not a humorist statement? If not, then the genocide of the people is directly promoted. worse than the Nazis, because they defended their strata of the population, and here a handful of citizens, who captured the wealth of the people, captured by the orbman and scams, are calling for total genocide. The country's main prosecutor’s office is clearly not available, and it looks like Ukraine’s preparation for genocide and Israeli settlement. The main oligarchs in Ukraine are fellow tribesmen, which echoes the Russian oligarchs. The genocide of citizens of both countries is also common? ....
              2. woron333444
                woron333444 2 March 2018 16: 07
                +1
                The author fulfills his salary. Skororokhov lately has completely slipped into hysteria. He wanted the laurels of Serebryakov.
          2. SERGUS
            SERGUS 28 February 2018 11: 49
            +7
            Quote: sapporo1959
            however, imperialism and Zionism did not shake our great principles and achievements in the form of the collapse of the USSR with chewing gum and jeans.

            The USSR was not ideal, there were systemic flaws, in any case, nobody probably offers to do everything as before, history is given to us to analyze, take the best from it, and eliminate the bad.
      2. zenion
        zenion 28 February 2018 15: 14
        0
        But all the same, in order to stop lawlessness, there is, so to speak, a trick. That is, it is necessary for everyone outside the law to issue a license to kill as an agent 007. That is, depending on where the authority hangs on the vertical, to issue a license to kill. The cleaner in all such untouchables has the right to kill up to three slaves and must gradually go up to the increase. For example, already the district prosecutor can issue ten pieces, and fasten their heads on the wall. You just need to find out a week, a month, or a year, so that there would be no outrages. What he can do is all in one day. Take the meat to the sausage factory.
        1. GUKTU76
          GUKTU76 28 February 2018 15: 22
          +6
          Do you have many such "enlightened ones" there?
        2. myobius59
          myobius59 28 February 2018 16: 31
          +5
          Jew, go from here against the wall, crying with your head to beat.
      3. businessv
        businessv 28 February 2018 15: 16
        +19
        Quote: Vasily50
        The author slipped into evidence, skipping the laws of development of mankind and each person.

        IMHO, the author did not slip anywhere, but simply stated facts that are very unpleasant. This is not about the laws of development, but about the inflation of the bureaucratic apparatus. Here is what Siluanov said about this: "Russia is 1,4 times ahead of developed countries in terms of the number of people employed in the public sector, and 2,5 times ahead of countries with an average level of development." https://www.rbc.ru/economics/15/10/2014/543cfe56c
        bb20f8c4e0b98f2 ", or what Rosstat provides:" Regional authorities turned out to be leaders in terms of growth rates. The number of officials there increased 2,25 times. Municipal officials in Russia - 367 620 people, their number has grown 10 times over 2,07 years. At the federal level, the number of civil servants has increased 1,6 times. "These are obsolete data, from 1999 to 2008, now there are even more. But what is said about their effectiveness:" Moreover, according to the World Bank’s quality of public administration rating, In 2013, Russia ranked 120th among 210 countries. "Therefore, a comparison with the oprichnina is also true - we need not literate, but loyal people to bureaucrats.
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 28 February 2018 07: 25
      +39
      Quote: Archon
      an ordinary person will not be able to do anything here.

      An ordinary person can come to the polls and vote correctly. This is already something! And since we have the usual - the vast majority, it is likely that this criminal power will end its existence.
      1. leshiy076
        leshiy076 28 February 2018 08: 11
        +31
        To vote correctly is a good deed for a citizen. But political technologies weren’t fools either. Do you think Putin will win because he is so good? Rave. Putin will win because he simply has no alternative. It’s not for Sobchak to vote or for Shiko II. Competitors were selected in advance so that no one even thought that you could choose someone other than Putin. And there are only two options: vote for Putin or not vote at all.
        1. freddyk
          freddyk 28 February 2018 08: 33
          +24
          To vote for Putin and not to vote is the same thing. And then Grudinin was not "selected", he was elected by secret ballot of the entire left movement.
          1. Varyag_0711
            Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 09: 15
            +36
            freddyk Today, 08:33 ↑ New
            To vote for Putin and not to vote is the same thing. And then Grudinin was not "selected", he was elected by secret ballot of the entire left movement.
            Twenty five again! Every day is the same.
            Now let's talk about democracy on a particular site and its name is Military Review.
            Since the site’s administration, and specifically Vadim Smirnov, does not want to communicate through the mail, let’s put it on public display.

            Smirnov Vadim Today, 04:02
            Site Violation Warning
            You violated the rules of the site, admitted in the comment:
            "Insults, rudeness: Good luck to the site in further anti-advertising of the" folk-strawberry "under-oligarch ..." in the article On Advertising, "United Russia" and Presidential Candidate Pavel Nikolaevich Grudinin.
            You have 3 violations. Site rules
            Here I got such a jag today in the morning. Now attention is the question. Where is rudeness here? Wishing you good luck in promoting the under-oligarch Grudinin is now considered rudeness? Or now everyone sneezing towards the administration will be considered an insult?
            It seems like the site used to be a platform for expressing opinions, or now there are two opinions, one administration and the other not right?
            I repeat, the site has become a clear platform for the promotion of ONLY one candidate, namely Grudinin. Every day, on one or even several articles and everything about “Putin must leave”, and Grudinin is a “popular candidate” and only he will bring us happiness! What say you wrong?
            So, I personally disagree, and moreover, you can call me paranoid, schizophrenic, zaputinets, but generally anyone, BUT your Grudinin, this is a disaster for Russia. His "program" is a set of impossible promises.
            Moreover, from the moment it became known about his promotion to the site, citizens were raining in droves on a mass scale it was not clear what countries were calling “who if not Grudinin”. There is a purposeful company promoting precisely Grudinin in power. Consider what you like, but personally I’m sure that Grudinin is a project that is beneficial only to one side, the West! Yes, yes, start throwing dung in me with buckets, scream that I’m a schizophrenic, I don’t give a damn about your screams.
            Your Grudinin is the project "Anal", but already with the sauce of false patriots and false communists. And those who adhere to my point of view are slowly overwriting. A lot of commentators, a lot of comments, they just cast a voice not in support of Putin, no. You score any sane comment against Grudinin. For it is impossible.
            Here recently appeared a feuilleuron on behalf of the VO administration, about how the administration works for Western intelligence agencies. In a joking manner, the administration tried to disown, no, we are not working. So now vague doubts really begin to torment me, but who do the good gentlemen work for?
            You can of course rub this comment, you can send it to the ban, it is of course your right. Only now your resource is not the only one. They earn a reputation for a long time, but you can lose it in an instant. Once upon a time the site had a reputation as a patriotic site, now I'm starting to doubt it very much!
            Good luck again, no longer writing in terms of what.
            I have the honor!
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 28 February 2018 09: 55
              +22
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Twenty five again! Every day is the same thing. And now let's talk about democracy on a particular site and its name is Military Review. Once the site administration, specifically Vadim Smirnov does not want to communicate via mail, let's put it on public display.

              I was banned for the same reason, but on the other hand .. When I spoke out unhappily about Putin .. For this reason, I do not agree with you that Vadim Smirnov bans those who are against Grudinin, as well as those who are against Putin. I was also outraged, because I think that the ban was given for nothing .. but the site is not mine and there is nothing to be done about these ..))
              And if on the topic of the article, then the author is right in everything, I would still add a bunch of everything ..
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 10: 15
                +23
                Everything is possible, only recently I have not seen a single article, neither for Putin, nor for Zhirinovsky, nor for anyone else, one solid Grudinin.
                I repeat for the hundredth time, I am not an ardent supporter of the current government, like many here, I don’t like the internal processes in the country, but this is not a reason to destroy the country. Namely, the arrival of Grudinin, in my deep conviction, will lead the country to collapse.
                It’s just a painfully massive attack coming from precisely those who are for Grudinin. Conclusions suggest themselves.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 28 February 2018 10: 41
                  +18
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  It’s just a painfully massive attack coming from precisely those who are for Grudinin. Conclusions suggest themselves.

                  Do you think they are campaigning for Grudinin more than Putin? And who else to campaign for? Who offers from candidates, something specific? In addition to the Communist Party, I do not see those. And the Communist Party offers very healthy things and most importantly justified and backed by numbers.
                  1. Varyag_0711
                    Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 11: 19
                    +20
                    Svarog Today, 10:41 PM ↑
                    Do you think they are campaigning for Grudinin more than Putin?
                    Definitely YES! In my city, I did not see a single clip "for Putin", but solid clips "for Grudinin", with a rare interspersed clips of Zhirik and others.
                    Who offers from candidates, something specific? In addition to the Communist Party, I do not see those.
                    Do not tell, the Communist Party has been mumbling this "specific program" for more than 25 years, and things are still there. The Communist Party at one time was in the Duma the largest faction, AND WHAT? And NOTHING, they did nothing real for the people, this faction took root and sang along with the current government. And their slogans, this is continuous populism based on nothing but the people’s Wishlist!
                    And the Communist Party offers very healthy things and most importantly justified and backed by numbers.
                    What the hell are healthy things, with what numbers confirmed? Tell me, what is your education? Full there fool it is clear that their "healthy things" are a complete utopia.
                    To promise does not mean to marry. Where will they get the money for at least a hundredth of their promises? Type of the oligarchs will be taken away? So maybe for a start and start? Maybe first Grudinin and Zyuganov fork out for something good?
                    Gotta be full fool to believe that the under-oligarch Grudinin will defend the aspirations of the common people.
                    Goodbye, chatting with Zagrudin residents, this is the same as with clients of Chamber No. 6 or pan-and-panheads from neighboring 404.
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 06
                      +13
                      Quote: Varyag_0711
                      Goodbye, chatting with Zagrudin residents, this is the same as with clients of Chamber No. 6 or pan-and-panheads from neighboring 404.

                      you see, you yourself are intolerant of the opinions of others, and who are offended
                      1. freddyk
                        freddyk 28 February 2018 12: 36
                        +7
                        And I don’t know why he is offended. People calmly, judiciously express their opinion, without any calls there. Mr. Varyag simply fell into hysteria. Bile from it is so rushing. But, mind you, no one is offended by him.
                    2. Svarog
                      Svarog 28 February 2018 13: 00
                      +10
                      Quote: Varyag_0711
                      Goodbye, chatting with Zagrudin residents, this is the same as with clients of Chamber No. 6 or pan-and-panheads from neighboring 404.

                      laughing that's why you are banned laughing you are too intolerant of the opinions of others, I also think about zaputintsy, but I try not to insult the opponent, the truth also sometimes breaks out))
                      Svarog Today, 10:41 PM ↑
                      Do you think they are campaigning for Grudinin more than Putin?
                      Definitely YES! In my city, I did not see a single clip "for Putin", but solid clips "for Grudinin", with a rare interspersed clips of Zhirik and others
                      Zhirik is not wasted, understands that nothing is shining. But propaganda for Putin on every corner, even in the kindergarten laughing Plus, it’s just the whole channel that illuminates in a positive light naturally.

                      Quote: Varyag_0711
                      Do not tell, the Communist Party has been mumbling this "specific program" for more than 25 years, and things are still there. The Communist Party at one time was in the Duma the largest faction, AND WHAT? And NOTHING, they did nothing real for the people, this faction took root and sang along with the current government. And their slogans, this is continuous populism based on nothing but the people’s Wishlist!

                      Do you want them to organize a revolution? What would you like, what would the Communists do. And in the Duma everyone edro steers, if that ..


                      Quote: Varyag_0711
                      What the hell are healthy things, with what numbers confirmed? Tell me, what is your education? There, it is completely clear that their “sound things” are a complete utopia.

                      I suspect that you received education in a utopian state? Which was the winner everywhere (science, WWII, space, medicine, etc.). And this state power-fed half of the world didn’t have a large army, and at the same time it lived and flourished .. Yes, it was something that needed to be changed on time .. Now the Communist Party, taking into account previous experience, is proposing this. Imagine a USSR that would not feed half the world, cut down on army spending, allow small and medium-sized businesses, would you agree this would be a different country ..
                      1. saigon
                        saigon 28 February 2018 16: 05
                        +9
                        Is the USSR a utopian state? Maybe in the USSR there was a wretched EG in education, it was engineers there who could not draw up a drawing?
                        This state before the USSR crawl oh for how long.
                        This is in today's Russia the exploiter, the capitalist, embracing the Communist Party, portrays the last hope for the people. It’s not funny.
                    3. north
                      north 28 February 2018 15: 38
                      +10
                      Varangian, I support you one hundred percent. V.O. considered the patriotic platform, in the normal sense of the word, and the authors spoke about Putin, mostly positively, but with the advent of candidate Grudinin, everything began to change dramatically. It seems that this candidate is quite strong, he himself, I emphasize, compromised himself, but his strong support continues, on V.O. although the incumbent president remains the supreme commander of the armed forces of Russia. I can’t imagine what kind of commander-in-chief could be Mr. Grudinin?
                      1. Varyag_0711
                        Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 15: 53
                        +11
                        north Today, 15:38 ↑
                        I can’t imagine which Commander-in-Chief can turn out from Mr. Grudinin?
                        You know, but I can assume that from Grudinin you’ll get about the same commander in chief as Misha Mechnyi. They are even somewhat similar, not outwardly, but similar.
                        Here, many are trying to convince me that first domestic policy, and only then, someday, when we become a powerful economic power, then it may be necessary to take up foreign policy.
                        In my opinion, bullshit, and complete. With regard to Russia, foreign policy will always be in the foreground. And without success in Russia's foreign policy, it will never become economically strong.
                2. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 28 February 2018 11: 49
                  +18
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  not for Putin
                  Well then. There is an article for Putin here about his successful foreign policy. And also a lot of controversy in it.
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  neither for Zhirinovsky, nor for anyone else
                  Their rating is too low to be taken seriously.
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  It’s just a painfully massive attack coming from precisely those who are for Grudinin.
                  Exactly the same, if not worse, can be said about Putin. Articles about his "successes", multi-track moves, grandmaster moves and cunning plans appear even more regularly here. Just the authors are different.
                3. Strategia
                  Strategia 28 February 2018 22: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  only I haven’t seen a single article lately, neither for Putin, nor for Zhirinovsky, nor for anyone else

                  So write who or what is stopping?
                4. nickname7
                  nickname7 2 March 2018 13: 16
                  0
                  I don’t know where the agitation is, on Grudinin, but not him, now there is an attack, in black PR.
              2. vasya.pupkin
                vasya.pupkin 28 February 2018 14: 24
                +9
                For Svarog: I personally noticed that V. Smirnov “bans” those who are for Novorossia / a fresh example, SeparDNR, who was telling the truth how the last BK was eaten “without salt”. And there are good reasons for this. Smirnov regularly visits near Kuev his father, who supported in the 14th Maidan. It is there that he draws his hatred for NEWS.
                I will not be surprised that this will be my last post on VO.
            2. mac789
              mac789 28 February 2018 09: 56
              +7
              You are right in many ways. But Grudinin is not a project of the West. This is a project of our current bosses. Although, if you look more broadly, our current bosses are the project of the West. So Grudinin turns the project project. laughing
            3. zoolu350
              zoolu350 28 February 2018 10: 24
              +3
              The lackeys of the Russian oligarchy have no honor.
            4. New Year day
              New Year day 28 February 2018 11: 09
              +6
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Where is rudeness here?

              you offended? It also came to me and also did not understand "for what?" By the way, you also promised to "deal" with one of your opponents. No need to be offended. This is called pluralism.
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              freddyk Today, 08:33 ↑ New
              To vote for Putin and not to vote is the same thing. And then Grudinin was not "selected", he was elected by secret ballot of the entire left movement.
              Twenty five again! Every day is the same.
              Now let's talk about democracy on a particular site and its name is Military Review.
              Since the site’s administration, and specifically Vadim Smirnov, does not want to communicate through the mail, let’s put it on public display.

              Smirnov Vadim Today, 04:02
              Site Violation Warning
              You violated the rules of the site, admitted in the comment:
              "Insults, rudeness: Good luck to the site in further anti-advertising of the" folk-strawberry "under-oligarch ..." in the article On Advertising, "United Russia" and Presidential Candidate Pavel Nikolaevich Grudinin.
              You have 3 violations. Site rules
              Here I got such a jag today in the morning. Now attention is the question. Where is rudeness here? Wishing you good luck in promoting the under-oligarch Grudinin is now considered rudeness? Or now everyone sneezing towards the administration will be considered an insult?
              It seems like the site used to be a platform for expressing opinions, or now there are two opinions, one administration and the other not right?
              I repeat, the site has become a clear platform for the promotion of ONLY one candidate, namely Grudinin. Every day, on one or even several articles and everything about “Putin must leave”, and Grudinin is a “popular candidate” and only he will bring us happiness! What say you wrong?
              So, I personally disagree, and moreover, you can call me paranoid, schizophrenic, zaputinets, but generally anyone, BUT your Grudinin, this is a disaster for Russia. His "program" is a set of impossible promises.
              Moreover, from the moment it became known about his promotion to the site, citizens were raining in droves on a mass scale it was not clear what countries were calling “who if not Grudinin”. There is a purposeful company promoting precisely Grudinin in power. Consider what you like, but personally I’m sure that Grudinin is a project that is beneficial only to one side, the West! Yes, yes, start throwing dung in me with buckets, scream that I’m a schizophrenic, I don’t give a damn about your screams.
              Your Grudinin is the project "Anal", but already with the sauce of false patriots and false communists. And those who adhere to my point of view are slowly overwriting. A lot of commentators, a lot of comments, they just cast a voice not in support of Putin, no. You score any sane comment against Grudinin. For it is impossible.
              Here recently appeared a feuilleuron on behalf of the VO administration, about how the administration works for Western intelligence agencies. In a joking manner, the administration tried to disown, no, we are not working. So now vague doubts really begin to torment me, but who do the good gentlemen work for?
              You can of course rub this comment, you can send it to the ban, it is of course your right. Only now your resource is not the only one. They earn a reputation for a long time, but you can lose it in an instant. Once upon a time the site had a reputation as a patriotic site, now I'm starting to doubt it very much!
              Good luck again, no longer writing in terms of what.
              I have the honor!

              you express your opinion, but for some reason you consider someone else's unfit. Yesterday you wrote to me: "The most important thing is that this fruit, even before the election, is" SURE "that they will be falsified by 146% ..."
              I personally do not like the word "fruit". It brings me moral suffering. It's a shame, you panim ..
            5. uskrabut
              uskrabut 28 February 2018 11: 20
              +17
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              BUT your Grudinin, this is a disaster for Russia. His "program" is a set of impossible promises.

              I read 20 points of his program, I did not find anything impracticable in them, others have a lot of charges. You obviously have some personal scores for Mr. Grudinin. Then there is nothing to arrange a showdown with him, especially since I didn’t notice him here. But Grudinin is worthy to be the President of the Russian Federation or not the Russian people will decide.
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 11: 55
                +17
                uskrabut Today, 11:20 ↑ New
                I read 20 points of his program, I did not find anything impossible in them
                What are you doing ?!
                We read the first paragraph:
                1. Change of economic strategy. The priority will be the well-being of the broad masses of the people, and not a handful of oligarchs, the interests of the common man, and not the greed of "fat cats". This requires a sharp turn from oligarchic capitalism to a social state.
                And who is telling me this ?! A stealing under-oligarch who will be "like be" "for the people" ?! Yes, he himself is a "fat greasy cat" and even on the face of his face it is written.
                Where do you see the real program for the transition to a social state? This is just a dumb slogan, nothing more. Where it says here that “I am Grudinin PN, I undertake by 01.01.20 ** to enact a law requiring all mining companies to deduct 20 percent of their net profit for medicine, education, etc. etc." ?! Where is it clearly stated, where is Grudinin going to take money for all his promises?
                Sorry, but you are either not a very literate person, or very naive, or not naive and specifically work for P.N. Grudinin and most likely not just, there are no other options!
                1. Senior manager
                  Senior manager 28 February 2018 13: 48
                  +4
                  And in vain you are gracious VARYAG boil. All applicants for the presidency, quality programs are intentions without detailing the actions, that is, catchy slogans, nothing more. Now, Comrade Grudinin is a successful director of a state farm. The governor could be, for trial. Putin is looking for good managers, Grudinin did not succeed - that means he does not have the abilities of such a large-scale work. Yavlinsky today said in the morning what achievements he will deliver to Russia in the first place, according to the amount of change - everything as required by the FSA establishment. Ksenia in the same vein - to make Russia a complaisant vassal of the West, a gas station. The remaining applicants, in my opinion, are not pulled to the post of head. Real affairs, without ads, are viewed only by Putin. Thinking people conclude that the tit in the hands is more reliable. I listened to EBN at the time, now I can distinguish business from chatter. And the article completely, practically, highlights the current state of affairs at the top of the government, the only drawback is the lack of analysis of the relationship of cash aces with managers, at the present time financial, so to speak, "ELITES" and CHINES.
                2. nickname7
                  nickname7 2 March 2018 13: 45
                  +3
                  The stealing half-oligarch,
                  Lies and provocations, he does not offend himself, and he supports his collective farm in perfect order, buys new equipment, good salaries and a social package for workers. These are exactly these qualities that they buy. Other owners keep their plants and enterprises on a starvation diet, there are no spare parts, equipment is in disrepair. If Grudinin expands his collective farm throughout the Russian Federation, it will not be bad. The fact that he has money and accounts, he earned and has the right. A capitalist who does not consider spending money on schools at a loss is the most important quality in Grudinin's personality.
                  You just have a personal envy of rich and successful people. And given that the company is now unfolding to denigrate Grudinin, you (Varyag_0711), using the "under-oligarch" yourself from the bots, are working for money.
                  1. nickname7
                    nickname7 2 March 2018 14: 01
                    +3
                    Let the opponents of Grudinin call other rich people who, instead of buying another yacht and a sports club, built a modern school of metal and glass in the village?



                    And now bots are spreading all kinds of vile things. Which even if it’s not a fake, then it’s for sure childish pranks, compared with the sins of more oligarchs, and the current bureaucracy is many times worse than Grudinin. If he does for the Russian Federation what he does for the collective farm, then he will not mind the golden palace either.
              2. dison
                dison 28 February 2018 15: 49
                +6
                I read 20 points of his program

                He does not have any program. Communist Party presented him on a silver platter.
            6. New Year day
              New Year day 28 February 2018 11: 56
              +11
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Here I got such a jag today in the morning. Now attention is the question. Where is rudeness here?

              You offended? Many receive such "letters of happiness." Are you offended that came to you? It happens. You once promised to "deal" with your opponent. Got an otvetka and were offended. And the admin does not answer anyone, has the right.
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              It seems like the site used to be a platform for expressing opinions, or now there are two opinions, one administration and the other not right?

              So you always held the same opinion, only regarding yourself. As recently as yesterday, you made a derogatory decision against me for disagreeing with your opinion. I became abusive! I suffer in agony.
              Be consistent and principled to the end.
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              I repeat, the site has become a clear platform for the promotion of ONLY one candidate, namely Grudinin.

              Pardon me, after looking at the box just the opposite opinion - "no one but Putin!" As he announced his participation, money was immediately found to state employees, pensioners, it doesn’t come off the screens, Stone’s film was moved for agitation. Is that how you think?
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              I personally disagree, and moreover, you can call me paranoid, schizophrenic, zaputinets, but in general anyone, BUT your Grudinin, this is a disaster for Russia. His "program" is a set of impossible promises.

              You know, but these words of yours can be attributed to Putin’s account. The preservation of the country, Crimea, the army is Putin's merit. But what about the rest? Excessive corruption, chaos of power, its lack of accountability, lies, thieves, whose is this? "May decrees" and those are not fulfilled! And then what kind of president is he if his decrees are not followed? What about campaign promises? They simply wander from one company to another, change the date and everything is relevant! What is the question of housing and communal services, what is the question of gasoline!
              And there is a fear that Putin is leading the country in the wrong direction. Try to prove the opposite! You will not succeed.
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              start throwing dung in me with buckets, scream that I'm schizophrenic, I don't care about your screams.

              Mil man, are you hysterical?
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              the site had a reputation as a patriotic site, now I'm starting to doubt it very much!

              Have you appropriated the title of "sole patriot"? Who disagrees with you - the "enemy"?
              In the Duma, too, some "patriots" are sitting !.
              When they begin to recall "patriotism", then other words are immediately remembered

              The patriot, in my understanding, is not the one who shouts “Hurray” the loudest. and the one who honestly works for the country, for the benefit of its citizens, the one who sees the shortcomings and struggles with them to the best of his ability.
            7. SERGUS
              SERGUS 28 February 2018 12: 13
              +2
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              Consider what you like, but personally I’m sure that Grudinin is a project that is beneficial only to one side, the West! Yes, yes, start throwing dung in me with buckets, scream that I'm schizophrenic

              In my opinion, you really exaggerate that there are agents of the West around. As for Grudinin, I think that Zyuganov simply did not want to lose the next election once again and decided to bring out a new person, but in my opinion the choice was not successful, a Communist businessman, many Communist Party supporters did not understand this, it’s the opposite for the opponents of the Communist Party, reproach: then real estate abroad, then bills ...
            8. APIS
              APIS 28 February 2018 12: 36
              +7
              Quote: Varyag_0711
              You can of course rub this comment, you can send it to the ban, it is of course your right. Only now your resource is not the only one. They earn a reputation for a long time, but you can lose it in an instant. Once upon a time the site had a reputation as a patriotic site, now I'm starting to doubt it very much!
              Good luck again, no longer writing in terms of what.
              I have the honor!


              Spraying with no argument of honor does no one.
              Honor you have, not honor. In Poland you would be born
            9. demo
              demo 28 February 2018 15: 05
              +3
              Calmer Varyag_0711, calmer.
              No Grudinin will go anywhere.
              The Kremlin and GDP have all done.
              The current election on transparency is the pinnacle.
              I would like to find fault, but, damn it, there is nothing.
              All candidates are selected as a selection.
              Selected by someone with a very caring and demanding hand.
              My dream is to learn the name of the MASTER!

              Of all the presidential candidates, the most suitable is Putin.
              I am not his apologist, I am not his fan. I do not like much about his actions. And I do not share his position on many fundamental issues.
              And vice versa.

              But not one of those who shines on screens today will be able to reach even one-tenth of Putin's popularity popularity.

              Any questions?
              Ask.
              No questions?
              Then you need to close the topic.
            10. IQ12NHJ21az
              IQ12NHJ21az 3 March 2018 22: 55
              0
              Grudinin is a communist! This is a new joke from the Living Corpse and Honest Member series. The oligarch on guard of the interests of the working class is a fox guarding the chicken coop.
          2. BecmepH
            BecmepH 28 February 2018 09: 40
            +7
            Quote: freddyk
            To vote for Putin and not to vote is the same thing. And then Grudinin was not "selected", he was elected by secret ballot of the entire left movement.

            Yes? Go to the Izborsk Club website. Read Delyagin. He suggested and substantiated that Grudinin was a Kremlin project. Only that something, as usual, went wrong and Grudinin began to "rise" ...
            1. seos
              seos 28 February 2018 10: 20
              +15
              Dumb assumptions - the Kremlin does not need any project ... But the stuffing about the "Project of the Kremlin" appeared after everyone began to directly indicate that the State Department’s Grudinin project was too late to put on Navalny - the horse is not the same .. ..
              Navalny said what the State Department liked ... for which the people left him ... Grudinin is served by a crowd of political scientists and he says that people like the people according to social studies ... - these are not his words, these are the words that helped political scientists .. .
              All such articles appeared only before the election .... PR Grudinin thoroughly, like no one before him ... and this article is correct but it is PR of the “right president Grudinin” who will come and even if he wants to put things in order, he cannot (and will not, it’s not for this that he is eager for power), because he does not have real power .... real power belongs to power groups, and we don’t even know which group Grudinin belongs to .. If he belonged to a patriotic group in power, he would I was not shy about hiding this and representatives of this group would say that he was their candidate ...
              1. Varyag_0711
                Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 10: 34
                +10
                seos Today, 10:20 ↑
                Dumb assumptions - the Kremlin does not need any project ... But the stuffing about the "Project of the Kremlin" appeared after everyone began to directly indicate that the State Department’s Grudinin project was too late to put on Navalny - the horse is not the same .. ..
                Colleague, I absolutely agree with you and adhere to exactly the same opinion!
                PR Grudinina can not be compared with the PR of anyone else. What the West is useless to put on our liberals apparently already understood, now it has been decided to place a bet on the patriotic bloc, which for the most part is for the revival of the USSR, the socialist system and so on. Now they decided to play on the feelings of patriotism, and the calculation is absolutely correct, only the candidacy, to put it mildly, let us down. Grudinin does not pull not only on the national candidate, he does not pull on the candidate at all, and apparently they simply do not have others. Or stupidly did not have time to prepare, apparently in a hurry.
          3. Ascetic
            Ascetic 28 February 2018 12: 51
            +9
            Quote: freddyk
            he was chosen by secret ballot of the entire left movement.

            That is in the left-most movement a split. The Communist Party remembered the good old days when people who disagreed with the party line were spread rot in every possible way and expelled from the ranks
            Deputy of the Bryansk Regional Duma Sergei Antoshin was expelled from the Communist Party for his disagreement with the nomination of the oligarch Pavel Grudinin as a presidential candidate ....
            earlier in the Communist Party warned that all dissatisfied with the nomination of Grudinin will be expelled from the party.
            The Communist Party cuts its ranks: Bryansk deputy Sergei Antoshin expelled from the party after criticizing Grudinin ... Source: https://politexpert.net/92767-kprf-kosit-svoi-rya
            dy-bryanskii-deputat-sergei-antoshin-isklyuchen-i
            z-partii-posle-kritiki-grudinina

            Communist Party Central Committee: those who disagree with the nomination of Grudinin will be expelled from the party ...
            [url = https: //politexpert.net/88513-v-ck-kprf-zaya
            vili-ob-isklyucheniya-iz-partii-protivnikov-vydvi
            zheniya-grudinina-v-kandidaty-v-prezidenty] Communist Party Central Committee: those who disagree with Grudinin’s nomination will be expelled from the party ... Source: https://politexpert.net/88513-v-ck-kprf-zayavili-
            ob-isklyucheniya-iz-partii-protivnikov-vydvizheni
            ya-grudinina-v-kandidaty-v-prezidenty

            That's where feudalism will be with the advent of Grudinin, It all reminds me of Ukraine .. There's an oligarch chocolate bunny. the strawberry king is here ... all dissent is forbidden, and the sect of Chestnut is formed here, which does not accept any criticism ... There Bandera come order restore and we have Grudinin coming to order ... You feel the same hand, the same technologies and techniques for promoting the right person in power, American cookies were already on the Maidan, we are waiting for a Turkish strawberry on Bolotnaya bully
            This tweet marked an unbending fighter with the Udaltsov regime

            And about the so-called immunity and permissiveness of power structures can certainly be argued by comparing, for example, the rights of the American police officer and ours, but I will not ...? You need to remember only one thing. sometimes in between the spreading of "innocent citizens" these people go under bullets for the sake of you and me ..
            The other day I watched on TV the first so-called The "debate" topic was foreign policy and defense. because he didn’t hear anything from Grudinin on this issue, either there is no program yet, either he is completely zero on this topic, or he follows the principle - why do we need foreign policy and the army, we need to deal with hospitals and kindergartens ... But the President is personally constitutionally responsible for these issues in the first place

            Obviously, domestic political issues are at the core of the Grudinin program, which proposes to spread the “successful experience of his state farm” throughout the country. However, the president should also deal with foreign policy issues. However, there were no answers to these questions.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 13: 02
              +8
              Stanislas hi , my regards! You are very correctly diagnosed, but only who will hear us? We are here, as it were, in the minority, at least they are trying to create such an impression by the domination of the site by ardent zagrudinites recently.
              No one hears the arguments of reason, with rare exceptions. The opinion expressed by you is distorted beyond recognition. In general, an oil painting.
              Well, and who benefits from this orgy, I think it's not difficult ?!
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 1 March 2018 09: 00
                +2
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                We are here as if in the minority,

                I'm with you!
          4. flicker
            flicker 28 February 2018 13: 55
            +6
            And then Grudinin was not "selected", he was elected by secret ballot of the entire left movement.
            Selected by secret ballot ... State Department? They also supported him (as they had earlier Navalny, but they didn’t allow him), I believe, I believe the State Department is worried about Russia, which Putin tyrannizes.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 14: 10
              +9
              flicker Today, 13:55 ↑
              Selected by secret ballot ... State Department? They also supported him (as they had earlier Navalny, but they didn’t allow him), I believe, I believe the State Department is worried about Russia, which Putin tyrannizes.
              Colleague, bravo! good
              Only now ardent zagrudininians will come running and explain to you how wrong you are and that neither the USA nor the State Department have any relation to the choice of a “people's oligarch” ...
              1. flicker
                flicker 28 February 2018 14: 16
                +8
                now ardent zagrudinites
                Yes, there are a lot of them fellow . One thing I don’t understand, are they trolling or do they really believe Grudinin?
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 28 February 2018 14: 24
                  +10
                  flicker Today, 14:16 ↑
                  Yes, there are a lot of them fellow. One thing I don’t understand, are they trolling or do they really believe Grudinin?
                  Judging by when they were registered, and this is January-February 2018 and their number, I strongly doubt that they are trying for no reason at all. Painfully obsessive. Walk along the branch, they are clearly visible.
        2. Mao
          Mao 28 February 2018 09: 20
          +23
          Well, at the expense of "there is no alternative" - ​​this is your personal subjective opinion. Many (and I think the majority) disagree with you.
          Another question - what’s so feverishly seized on the throne that you won’t tear it out already? Why the Audit Chamber does not voice the expenses incurred in the so-called "election campaigning". Surely, they have already exceeded all permissible norms !, and for some reason the origin of these funds is not interested in the UK ...
          There is no alternative, say ... And why is it not, do not want to tell?
          If she is not, then with whom does he work - with mediocrity? That is, he gathered such a "team" around himself, which brought the country to poverty and continues to affirm "in general, I consider the work of the Government to be satisfactory." Then WHAT for the goals sets itself the one to which, in your words, "there is no alternative" ???
          He will not win the “election” - he will reassign himself !, because his real rating is lower than the baseboard.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 28 February 2018 10: 01
            +19
            Quote: Mao
            He will not win the “election” - he will reassign himself !, because his real rating is lower than the baseboard.

            I agree with you in everything. The agitation of the sun is beyond reason. As an example, on February 23, films about the Second World War were not shown on one fed.channel. They always showed, but not here. What is it? How to understand? Are they so afraid of communists?
            1. your1970
              your1970 28 February 2018 11: 01
              +8
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Mao
              He will not win the “election” - he will reassign himself !, because his real rating is lower than the baseboard.

              I agree with you in everything. The agitation of the sun is beyond the reasonable .. As an example, On February 23, not one Fed.channel was not shown films about the Second World War. They always showed, but not here. What is it? How to understand? Are they so afraid of communists?
              -And not ashamed to lie ???
              1ch
              08.55 "Marshals of Victory". 2, 16 p. +) 10.15 T / s "Black pea jackets" [16+] 12.15 T / s "Black pea jackets" [16+] 14.40 H / f "Twenty-eight Panfilov’s" [12+] 16.40 Concert "Officers" 18.00 Evening news 18.15 Concert " Officers "19.10. The legendary movie in color. "Officers"
              Russia
              18.00 Gala concert for the Defender of the Fatherland Day 20.30 H / f "Salute-7" [12+] 22.55 H / f "Crew" [12+]
              TVC
              11.45 D / f "Leonid Bykov. Last take" [12+] 12.35 H / f "Maxim Perepelitsa"
              NTV
              06.10 H / f "Ballad of a soldier" 03.10 "State border"
              culture
              10.30 X / f "Heavenly low-speed"
              Star
              all day
              Channel 5
              09:15 My native army 11:20 "White Tiger". (18+). 13:25 "Do not leave me (1st episode)." (16+). 14:20 "Do Not Leave Me (Series 2)." (16+). 15:10 "Do Not Leave Me (Episode 3)." (16+). 16:05 "Do not leave me (Series 4)." (16+). 17:00 "And the dawns here are quiet ... (1st episode)." (12+). 17:55 "And the dawns here are quiet ... (2nd series)." (12+). 18:45 "And the dawns here are quiet ... (Episode 3)." (12+). 19:40 "And the dawns here are quiet ... (4th series)." (12+). 20:30 "Sniper: Hero of Resistance (1st episode)." (16+). 21:20 "Sniper: Hero of Resistance (2 episode)." (16+). 22:10 "Sniper: Hero of Resistance (3rd episode)." (16+). 23:05 "Sniper: Hero of Resistance (4th episode)." (16+).

              Yes, some films are controversial, some are not about WWII - Salute-7, but nevertheless to say that no one showed anything - thisfool fool fool
              2) "Are they so afraid of the Communists?" -Where did you see the Communists NOW ?? If the Communist Party could not(!!!!!) to find a worthy candidate within the party - and they called the landowner?
              3) They will not vote in the village for Grudinin - mark my word. I will remember the people like Grudinin, the chairmen have robbed people on collective farms / state farms. First, OJSC, then ZAO, then ZAO - bankrupt, and he is the only owner + 2-3-4 of the fastest farmers
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 28 February 2018 11: 26
                +5
                Quote: your1970
                -And not ashamed to lie ???

                1. Fed. channels are 1 and Russia is one. may be mistaken, but in my understanding - this is so.
                2. Where exactly about the Second World War did you see films about the Second World War on these two channels?

                Quote: your1970
                2) "Are they so afraid of the Communists?" - And where did you see the Communists NOW ?? If the Communist Party could not (!!!!!) find a worthy candidate within the party - and called the landowner?

                Where did you see the liberals now? democrats? and others in their pure form?
                Quote: your1970
                3) They will not vote in the village for Grudinin - mark my word. I will remember the people like Grudinin, the chairmen have robbed people on collective farms / state farms. First, OJSC, then ZAO, then ZAO - bankrupt, and he is the only owner + 2-3-4 of the fastest farmers

                Those who are now in power robbed just .. and at Grudinin people are happy ..
                1. your1970
                  your1970 28 February 2018 12: 40
                  +4
                  items 1 and 2 - I’m embarrassed to ask - but what about films on 1 - “Marshals of Victory”, “Black Pea Jackets”, “28 Panfilovites”, “Officers”?No about WWII ?? about the war with Limpopo or Australia ???
                  Do not like the new - see the classics - "Officers" ...
                  for my taste, so "28 Panfilov" good movie turned out
                  on channel 2 - I agree, there was no movie about the war - they limited themselves to a concert, but they showed a film about the courage of Soviet people (Salyut-7)

                  Quote: Svarog
                  Those who are now in power robbed just .. and at Grudinin people are happy.
                  - you will not believe - not one of our former chairmen is now in power, and never has been, and never will be - there are no sick people in the villages for an outright crook (which people threw more than once in the 90s) to vote.
                  The villages know how it happened in life, how land units were bought, how property was divided, how the JSC became a closed joint stock company, and WHO as a result, he remained the owner of everything and everything. And this is not the mythical Chubais in Moscow - but his own chairman Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov ....
                  And people at Grudinin are happy only because he pays on time and not bad - well master so lucky and not very evil, it happens ... rarely true ...
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 03
            +5
            Quote: Mao
            He will not win the “election” - he will reassign himself !, because his real rating is lower than the baseboard.

            and he has no choice, however, like ours.
            1. saigon
              saigon 28 February 2018 16: 40
              +2
              And in your country you don’t understand which one has no choice either
          3. flicker
            flicker 28 February 2018 14: 09
            +8
            There is no alternative, say ... And why is it not, do not want to tell?
            But because even China, where there is a Communist Party and that:
            The Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party has proposed abandoning the current limit on the term of office of the chairman of the PRC and his deputy.
            China understands that fateful moment has come for the new WORLD ORDER, and it is extremely important to go through it without shocks that may occur even when the leader in China is changed.
            Once again, this is China, where there is ideology, there is a rigid structure of power, where the economy is growing and it does not want shocks ... but what about us?
        3. turbris
          turbris 28 February 2018 12: 33
          +4
          I like the position most of all - there they did it up there, they picked up candidates, etc. So that it would not be necessary to have several large political parties in the country that could nominate their candidates and not go to self-nominated candidates, where are they? They are not there, there is EP, which rules everything in the State Duma and in the Federation Council, the rest, it seems, are the "opposition" parties that feel very good with it. Who is to blame for the fact that the population is not showing any political activity? Nobody, except this population itself, because there is nothing to blame on someone. When the course of the president and the government is approved by the majority of the country's population, there are no alternatives to appear from anywhere and we see only the pathetic attempts of other candidates. Is it good or bad? This is normal, of course, the political system of the country needs to be further developed and some of the parties that have "sat up" in the State Duma are already asking for a way out, but on the whole the country is in a controlled mode and it is GOOD!
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 28 February 2018 16: 02
            +1
            turbris, very pleased! I’m not sure from Russia, but I’m sure that think soundly.
            1. turbris
              turbris 28 February 2018 16: 07
              +3
              Be sure - it’s from Russia, and you read on the site of “critics,” “whiners,” and “all-crawlers,” don’t you even believe that there are sensible people in Russia? There are most of them.
          2. your1970
            your1970 28 February 2018 17: 27
            +3
            Quote: turbris
            So that it would not be necessary to have several large political parties in the country that could nominate their candidates and not go to self-nominated candidates, where are they?
            - no one ever brought power to a dish to anyone. The candidate must be a LEADER-able to overcome любые barriers !!! The tsar sent Lenin / Stalin to exile, DeGoll fought with the Germans, Ho Chi Minh fought with everyone at all, Hitler (yes - bad! Yes, he killed many lives!) - nonetheless, the leader ...

            And Lesha Navalny - they gave 15 days and that’s all .... "they do not allow the leader to grow !!", "they destroyed the whole opposition !!!" ...
            And this is just - not the US strikes from all sides, not NATO along the borders with nuclear weapons, not corruption, not a dissatisfied population, not the problems of unemployment / demography / oil prices, just 15 days ....
            He like global blows would resist ??????
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 28 February 2018 18: 03
              +2
              Quote: your1970
              no one ever brought power to a dish to anyone. The candidate must be a LEADER-able to overcome any obstacles

              Gold words.
        4. businessv
          businessv 28 February 2018 15: 25
          +6
          Quote: leshiy076
          And there are only two options: vote for Putin or not vote at all.

          Well, you do not consider Grudinin to be a competitor at all ?! In vain, a man from a plow, and only when you read how the mass media of the federals spread rot on him, like RIAFAN, for example, you will perk up! smile If it’s bad for them, it’s just right for us! Well, seriously, it’s already three years, as I look with interest at his state farm, I even visited it. And I also watch Grudinin’s speeches with no less interest and pleasure.
        5. Victor N
          Victor N 28 February 2018 15: 57
          +1
          Did it prevent you from nominating or becoming a candidate yourself? And they didn’t bother anyone - dozens of people signed up for the candidates. So your theory of “matched candidates” is untenable. And if you do not care about the fate of Russia - do not go to the polls!
        6. kotvov
          kotvov 28 February 2018 21: 22
          +2
          you can see that the bureaucracy hasn’t yet touched you. everything is ahead of you, you’ll be forced to bow and you will be. well, probably, “blind,” to live.
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 13
        +3
        But do not tell me how to vote correctly? wink
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 28 February 2018 10: 34
        +9
        Quote: Stas157
        An ordinary person can come to the polls and vote correctly. This is already something!

        that's for sure! We sit at home, believe in the drawer, then we are surprised at the forms of the body in the Duma
      4. AleBors
        AleBors 28 February 2018 12: 10
        +6
        Do you seriously believe that your vote decides something?
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 36
          +3
          Quote: AleBors
          Do you seriously believe that your vote decides something?

          everything has a price, everything has a meaning, even if we don’t realize it now
          1. AleBors
            AleBors 28 February 2018 13: 38
            +1
            Wisely). I agree, everything has a price. And some purpose.
        2. turbris
          turbris 28 February 2018 12: 38
          +4
          Do you seriously believe that someone decides for you? You can not move away from the boxes of dollars in the election of Yeltsin? This was possible under the Democrats, but now, under such control, it is impossible and it is time to recognize this. And to spread all kinds of rumors about the futility of the elections is not worthy of a citizen of Russia and contrary to its basic law - the Constitution!
          1. Nehist
            Nehist 28 February 2018 13: 39
            +8
            If something depended on the elections, we would not be allowed to participate in them.
            Mark Twain (s)
          2. AleBors
            AleBors 28 February 2018 13: 43
            +1
            Handsomely! I directly see you on an armored car with a cap in my hands ....
            Just moderate your revolutionary ardor, I do not spread rumors, I only express my opinion. Is this not forbidden by your beloved liberal constitution?
            Alas, everything has already been decided, and boxes of money in other forms are already listed where and who needs it. Technologies have changed, and the goal is achieved by other means.
            wink Do not be naive.
            1. turbris
              turbris 28 February 2018 16: 10
              +1
              It is difficult to prove something to a person who is “smarter” than everyone, stay in this state, it may feel better for you.
              1. AleBors
                AleBors 28 February 2018 17: 41
                +2
                I assure you, I am very well. I have no illusions. I am a pragmatic cynic.
                And you’d like to drink valerian. And in June-July, maybe something more serious .. because of the scolded ideals ..)))
    3. Vend
      Vend 28 February 2018 09: 57
      +8
      in modern Russia there is a place to be a cult of Putin’s personality, I don’t want to argue.
      That's when they start to put Putin’s criticism and dismissal from work with the “wolf ticket” and so on and so forth, then the personality cult will come. In the meantime, this is simply a respectful attitude to the power of adequate people. Who likes not to notice achievements and poke a finger in flaws, this is your right. Everyone feeds a black or white wolf.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 28 February 2018 10: 44
        +17
        Quote: Wend
        That's when they start to put Putin’s criticism and dismissal from work with the “wolf ticket” and so on and so forth, then the personality cult will come

        then it will be too late
        Quote: Wend
        In the meantime, this is simply a respectful attitude to the power of adequate people.

        Do you mean deputies, governors, etc. servants? Among the common population, not everything is so rosy.
        1. Vend
          Vend 28 February 2018 10: 55
          +4
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Wend
          That's when they start to put Putin’s criticism and dismissal from work with the “wolf ticket” and so on and so forth, then the personality cult will come

          then it will be too late
          Quote: Wend
          In the meantime, this is simply a respectful attitude to the power of adequate people.

          Do you mean deputies, governors, etc. servants? Among the common population, not everything is so rosy.

          It won’t be late, development does not go towards the cult of the president’s personality. I am from the common population, I see the pros and cons, I try not to fall into one direction. But when you come across pessimists, you have to go into the camp of optimists. To somehow dilute the dark colors.
          1. SERGUS
            SERGUS 28 February 2018 14: 24
            +4
            Quote: Wend
            But when you come across pessimists, you have to go into the camp of optimists. To somehow dilute the dark colors.

            And how do you believe after that, if you get over there, then over there?
            1. Vend
              Vend 28 February 2018 14: 40
              +1
              Quote: SERGUS
              Quote: Wend
              But when you come across pessimists, you have to go into the camp of optimists. To somehow dilute the dark colors.

              And how do you believe after that, if you get over there, then over there?

              I didn’t rush about, you determined me somewhere. based on your fantasies laughing
              1. SERGUS
                SERGUS 28 February 2018 15: 19
                +2
                Quote: Wend
                I didn’t rush about, you determined me somewhere. based on your fantasies

                Are you not raving? You yourself said that there are a lot of pessimists and to dilute them you became an optimist, what are your fantasies?
                1. Vend
                  Vend 28 February 2018 16: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: SERGUS
                  Quote: Wend
                  I didn’t rush about, you determined me somewhere. based on your fantasies

                  Are you not raving? You yourself said that there are a lot of pessimists and to dilute them you became an optimist, what are your fantasies?

                  but what have the throwing? I'm realist. This pessimist or optimist can dart from side to side. I have no such problem.
                  1. SERGUS
                    SERGUS 28 February 2018 16: 36
                    +2
                    Quote: Wend
                    I'm realist. This pessimist or optimist can dart from side to side.

                    Quote: Wend
                    But when you come across pessimists, you have to go into the camp of optimists.

                    You say anyway that further conversation with you does not make sense!
        2. saigon
          saigon 28 February 2018 16: 46
          +2
          When liberals came to power with the collapse of the USSR, the CPSU was banned if you remember. But the Communist Party with the capitalist at the head of the column somehow fit
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 28 February 2018 10: 41
      +3
      "The cult of power and the caste of the untouchables - the next stage in the development of Russia"
      History shows that this is a dead end road. The future of the new society is socialism .. The digital economy is the basis of this. The elites will not understand this and they will be swept away ..

      "Otherwise, humanity will have problems"
      (words of the Chinese billionaire in this film)
    5. starshina78
      starshina78 28 February 2018 15: 48
      +7
      You're not right ! An ordinary person should come to the polling station on March 18 and vote against this authority. And do not say that everything is a foregone conclusion. They can defame only at low turnout, but at 100% they will not work. It is time to send this power to retire someone, and to remove the “spruce corn” by the Friendship-2 combine.
    6. Ragoz
      Ragoz 1 March 2018 21: 16
      0
      Archon:
      Remember the words from the famous song "Toli will still be her"
    7. Ragoz
      Ragoz 1 March 2018 21: 20
      0
      Archon:
      Remember the words from the famous song.
      "Tolley will still be oh yoy
    8. siberalt
      siberalt 3 March 2018 09: 21
      +2
      Yes, we are not going anywhere. Everything has always been like this, but at times milder, at times more pronounced. The prosecutor had supervision, which was now taken away, and there were district committees that liquidated. Those. was orders of magnitude smaller than those "no way".
      A cult of personality makes the environment of the "king" with his tacit approval. A few days ago, opening a collegium of prosecutors, the Prosecutor General Chaika began with an appeal: "Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, dear present!" And all together, to ecstasy, they began to applaud Putin. The general licked deeply, and the rest began to vigorously lick what remained. The cult of personality is not only respect for the most important thing, but the principle of the existence of the entire bureaucracy, each participant of which tries to tear off a piece of this cult. In Russia, nothing can be done about it, except to "condemn" this phenomenon as a new king and immediately become a new cult. winked
  2. Streletskos
    Streletskos 28 February 2018 05: 25
    +21
    sad picture
  3. Greenwood
    Greenwood 28 February 2018 05: 31
    +69
    About Putin’s personality cult, I completely agree. Even the VO website has a bunch of people who practically worship Putin, ready to keep him in power indefinitely and calmly endure any of the most dubious initiatives of him and his government. Moreover, for such people, kindergarten phrases like “it was worse in the 90s,” “the West does not like Putin,” “Putin has real business,” “there are no one to preside except Putin, are clowns,” are quite normal arguments.
    We will not remember about Putin’s program, which is not there. About his government, ministers and heads of state corporations, many of which worked with him back in the 90s, and wallowed in nepotism and corruption, we are bashfully silent as well. From the completely incompetent Prime Minister Medvedev, I want to cry. We are not even talking about Putin coming to the debate and answering questions in his own words, and not on a piece of paper. But we will organize a flight with Siberian Cranes, diving behind amphorae, swimming in a font, flying a fighter and another 100500 PR campaigns that are very useful for the state.
    In domestic politics, a complete mess, in foreign confusion and reeling, the economy “grows” within the framework of a statistical error (it seems more like convulsions than growth).
    Question: people, how long will you be so cowardly and passive that you are afraid to change anything in the country? How long will you tolerate this jackal in power, hiding behind PR actions and pseudo-patriotism? How long will you blindly vote for who the current president will point to?
    1. onix757
      onix757 28 February 2018 05: 43
      +32
      Quote: Greenwood
      How long will you blindly vote for who the current president will point to?

      Vote as it should, the question is in the count. Not in order to carry out a coup in the 91st, that would give the power in the elections.
      1. Hottabych
        Hottabych 28 February 2018 08: 18
        0
        Quote: onix757
        Not in order to carry out a coup in the 91st, that would give the power in the elections.

        laughing And why was it carried out? lol
        1. freddyk
          freddyk 28 February 2018 08: 40
          +9
          Chubais bluntly said, the destruction of communism.

          Quote: Hottabych
          Quote: onix757
          Not in order to carry out a coup in the 91st, that would give the power in the elections.

          laughing And why was it carried out? lol
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 17
            +15
            Quote: freddyk
            Chubais bluntly said, the destruction of communism.

            Quote: Hottabych
            Quote: onix757
            Not in order to carry out a coup in the 91st, that would give the power in the elections.

            laughing And why was it carried out? lol

            And at the same time to destroy the excess population! The adherents of Chuba are still in power.
      2. sds87
        sds87 28 February 2018 10: 43
        +15

        Already showed in. This must be remembered. It is important - not how they vote, it is important - how they think. And they will calculate "correctly" as directed above. And there will be another 6 years all this oligarchic gang hanging out under the Argentinean cocaine in Russia under the protection of the Law.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 29
          +8
          Quote: sds87
          another 6 years all this

          Presidents of the richest countries in the world:
    2. populist
      populist 28 February 2018 06: 26
      +25
      Greenwood
      people, how long will you be so cowardly and passive that you are afraid of at least something to change in the country? How long will you endure this

      You're right! The whole problem is in people. The elections will be held and we will see how many teleombies are in the country. For 18 + 6 is an overkill.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 28 February 2018 10: 58
        +13
        Quote: populist
        You're right! The whole problem is in people. The elections will be held and we will see how many teleombies are in the country. For 18 + 6 is an overkill.

        In the sky clouds are running,
        Water in the tank runs.
        In a hostel on a sofa
        The electorate lies.
        And voices from the screen
        Broadcast everything in a row:
        “After four terms
        There will be a garden city! ”

        Carries a "chicken meat"
        And they scream behind the wall.
        So unassuming
        Worker's comfort.
        And the voices are screen
        Advertising of happiness harness,
        Low interest
        They give loans to everyone.
        But the voice is solid "trusted"
        From the sides and “under” and “above”:
        “After four terms
        There will be a garden city! ”


        There are explosions whining,
        They will lay pipes here.
        The economy will rise
        And the dollar - “kaput”.
        For the needs of a country of endless
        I came up with it myself -
        We will build the "East"
        And restore the "BAM."
        A quiet voice, in a whisper
        I am glad to notify you:
        “After four terms
        There will be a garden city! ”


        Four terms - how many?
        In total or in a row?
        Then he will leave for Austria
        And the ass will show us.
        There was one here, to a drunkard:
        Lied so that - be healthy.
        And how much we heard enough
        Then the winning words.
        Now lives in Germany -
        Honorable Sir.
        And we at the hostel are happy
        And drink valocordin.
        And again the call from the screen,
        And they say about VTsIOM:
        “After four terms
        There will be a garden city! ”


        Pouring lips with joy
        A fist clenched in happiness.
        Another sweets
        Swallow eccentric people.
        Take PLATO, CTP:
        Look for the catch.
        And a pension increase,
        So that you do not die of hunger.
        Take dear, beloved
        All that he deserves.
        Don't complain that health
        And I did not make happiness.
        You can't steal
        That conscience did not drink.
        And then work
        Not enough strength.
        And enough nostalgia
        About your USSR.
        “Hold on! There is no money! ” -
        So said the prime minister ...
        They have their own team -
        They live and do not "buzz":
        “After four terms
        They will build a garden city. ”
        In the cooperative "Lake",
        On the banks of the Oka,
        They only need time -
        The scale is great.


        Well, somewhere the city will be,
        Once upon a time a garden bloom
        While the people are submissive
        In the country of Russia there is.
        It's time to remember -
        They say only to the elections:
        “After four terms
        There will be a garden city! ”
        After four terms
        Contract il not in a row
        You will see in a new way
        His beggar, bare ass.
    3. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 28 February 2018 06: 35
      +39
      One of the points of the program of the candidate for the presidency of the Russian Federation from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Pavel Grudinin against the 282nd "Russian article".
      Article 282 of the Criminal Code stipulates “actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity”, and, according to its critics, is formulated in such a way that it allows a huge number of abuses, arbitrary interpretations, creating the basis for criminal cases for “crimes of thought”. It is proposed to abolish the 282 article, indicating that almost any sharp or critical statement can be brought under it and that mostly Russians sit on it.
      Grudinin proposes to resume the death penalty for maniacs, pedophiles and terrorists.
      Proposals to change the proceedings relate to an increase in jury trials. Thus, to bring the Russian judicial system closer to the most honest and independent.
      I will vote for a specific program and the path of development of the country!
      And if the guarantor of this program has the surname Grudinin, then so be it.

      Is one of the candidates ready to offer such a proposal, including the current guarantor (the guarantor not only of the Constitution, but also the existence of the oligarchy (or the name has already been changed to "socially responsible businessmen"))?
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 28 February 2018 06: 39
        +30
        I support a colleague. Grudinin is the only candidate for whom real affairs are visible, not balabolism and posturing.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 28 February 2018 07: 08
          +29
          Quote: Greenwood
          Grudinin is the only candidate

          But it is completely ignored by the media, and if not ignored, it is served in a negative way. An example is yesterday's evening news of Channel One. They talked about all the candidates, the Doge was mentioned how she struggles with point building. And nothing about Grudinin, as if there was no such candidate.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 28 February 2018 10: 06
            +14
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Greenwood
            Grudinin is the only candidate

            But it is completely ignored by the media, and if not ignored, it is served in a negative way. An example is yesterday's evening news of Channel One. They talked about all the candidates, the Doge was mentioned how she struggles with point building. And nothing about Grudinin, as if there was no such candidate.

            He is not simply ignored, he is "urinated" as they can, though for thinking people, all this is ridiculous, I mean the Kremlin’s claims to Grudinin))
          2. Esoteric
            Esoteric 28 February 2018 11: 03
            +8
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And nothing about Grudinin, as if there was no such candidate.

            Today in RUSSIA 24 one to one ... Baburin, Zhirinovsky, Sobchak, Suraikin, Titov, Yavlinsky ... They drove out two times in 30 minutes ... Just tin ... But we made our choice ...
            1. ramzes1776
              ramzes1776 28 February 2018 16: 51
              +3
              Cool debate laughing
          3. uskrabut
            uskrabut 28 February 2018 11: 44
            +9
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And nothing about Grudinin, as if there was no such candidate.

            For this, Suraikin from the Communists of Russia in full screen in red. How could two registration points in Russia be registered? Here you have another trick from the current government. Why is this not shouted at the election commission?
          4. your1970
            your1970 28 February 2018 17: 49
            +2
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            But him completely ignored by the media, and if not ignored, then served in a negative way.
            -A look at the statistics of the Communist Party weak ????
            https://kprf.ru/politindx/171740.html
            "Consider how many cited messages were provided to the main presidential candidates in a given period on central federal channels (Table 4)
            Presence of presidential candidates in analytical programs, as well as interviews with them:
            Name
            Total
            plots
            Citation
            Analytics and Interviews

            1.P. N. Grudinin
            27
            19
            3

            2.K. A. Sobchak
            22
            15
            2

            3.B. V. Zhirinovsky
            16
            5
            1

            4.B. Yu. Titov
            9
            4
            -

            5.G. A. Yavlinsky
            8
            3
            -

            6.A. A. Navalny
            4
            -
            -
            Thus, from December 23 to 26, among six candidates for the presidency P. Grudinin was quoted and was present in the author’s programs often.
            ·Since 23 on 26 December time for direct speech P. Grudinin provided ALL FEDERAL TV CHANNELSexcept Ren-TV.
            The total amount allocated to the candidate time for direct speech was 49 minutes 50 seconds, of which 45 minutes and 1 second were occupied by his speeches in analytical programs and answers to questions in interviews. "
            This is the Communists website on the Communist Party’s website, I didn’t come up with it ....
            in 3 days 50 minutes of performances-

            Why To lie in the eye - what is NOT allowed in the media ?????
            1. your1970
              your1970 28 February 2018 18: 32
              +2
              and this is a continuation, there, on the website of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Again, the Communists, not me:

              "Mentioned in the media materials of the main presidential candidates from December 22 to December 31, 2017 (number of messages)
              Name Number of messages For reference:
              Media Index
              1 PUTIN Vladimir Vladimirovich 212 625 n.a.
              2 SOBCHAK Ksenia Anatolyevna 15 329 87 123,50
              3 ZHIRINOVSKY Vladimir Volfovich 8 401 50 444,30
              4 GRUDININ Pavel Nikolaevich 8 365 79 278,70
              5 YAVLINSKY Grigory Alekseevich 4 202 23 834,50
              6 TITOV Boris Yuryevich 3 402 21 085,40

              First five candidates by reference: Putin, Sobchak, Zhirinovsky, GrudininYavlinsky.
              First five by media index: Putin, Sobchak, Grudinin, Zhirinovsky, Yavlinsky. "
              1. sapporo1959
                sapporo1959 28 February 2018 19: 35
                +2
                What is often mentioned is for sure! I’ve recently at least found out who in our country is the main plunderer of socialist and capitalist property and this turned out to be oddly enough this strawberry so-called tycoon. Both the striking shareholders and the son’s apartment of one hundred squares in Lithuania and a lot of other things .. So, of course, the private mention of candidates and members is true here and you can’t argue ... lol
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 28 February 2018 18: 57
              +5
              Quote: your1970
              Why lie in the eyes - what is NOT allowed in the media ?????
              Where is the lie here?
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              But it is completely ignored by the media, and if not ignored, it is served in a negative way.
              For fun, see the news on different channels, make sure I'm right. Either ignore or negative. hi
              1. your1970
                your1970 28 February 2018 20: 19
                +1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                But it is completely ignored by the media, and if not ignored, it is served in a negative way. For fun, see the news on different channels, make sure I'm right. Either ignore or negative. hi

                -AGAIN!!!!!" behind three days time for direct speech was 49 minutes 50 seconds, of which 45 minutes 1 second took HIS(!!!!) speeches in analytical programs and answers to questions in interviews. "- on all federal channels
                2)
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                For fun, see the news on different channels, make sure I'm right. Or ignore or negative. hi
                - Lord, you are out of sports interest look at the statistics of the Communist Party website ...
                "MediaIndex - an indicator of the Medialogy system that allows you to qualitatively analyze the effectiveness of PR. The index is calculated automatically and can range from -1000 to +1000. The sign of the index depends on the positive or negative reference to the desired object in the article. Higher MediaIndex published material, especially positive and visible is a message in the media field. "
                Website of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation https://kprf.ru/politindx/171895.html
                He’s not even in the top five positive and significant messages-one in the top three(!!!!!)
                "The first five by media index: Putin, Sobchak, Grudinin, Zhirinovsky, Yavlinsky. ""
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 28 February 2018 21: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: your1970
                  for three days

                  For what three days, numbers tell? And the names of federal channels, and the names of programs. All this is easy to verify.
                  Quote: your1970
                  Lord, well, you are out of sports interest look at the statistics of the Communist Party website ..

                  News from sports interest look, specifically yesterday's evening news release at 21-00. Easy to check. Also NTV, the news program "Central Television" on Saturday. These are two programs where he was ignored, mentioning everyone else. Lead 24 is the same, but I do not remember the time.
                  Quote: your1970
                  "MediaIndex

                  Read Minaev’s book, Media Sapiens, which describes in detail the manipulation of consciousness with the flow of a media stream. hi
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 1 March 2018 08: 04
                    +1
                    you didn’t try to read - what did the opponent write? what did he refer to ??
                    ALL INFORMATION TAKEN FROM THE KP RF SITE !!!! again I copy you from there:
                    "Thus, between 23 to 26 December among six candidates for the presidency P. Grudinin was quoted and was most often present in author programs. · From December 23 to 26 time for direct speech P. Grudinin was provided by all federal television channels except Ren-TV. "
                    https://kprf.ru/politindx/171740.html
                    follow the link to the site, everything is there: what programs, what time, who was, who led
                    all information - from there

                    about the media index
                    https://kprf.ru/politindx/171895.html
                    According to KP RF website:
                    "The top five on the media index: Putin, Sobchak, Grudinin, Zhirinovsky, Yavlinsky. "
                    Than higher MediaIndex published material, especially positive and visible is a message in the media field. "- if Grudinin is in the top three on the media index, this means that information in the media about him -POSITIVE


                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Quote: your1970
                    "MediaIndex
                    Read Minaev’s book, Media Sapiens, which describes in detail the manipulation of consciousness with the flow of a media stream.
                    -those. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is trying to manipulate my consciousness by submitting its media stream about Grudinin ??

                    This is all taken from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, from their OFFICIAL website !!!

                    Z.Y. I am a resident of the country, and I looked at people like Grudinin in the 90-2000s. Moreover, the typical representative of such "business executives" lives in 10 houses from me. None of them in our three neighboring districts even tried to get into the local authorities, because everyone knows that they are a crook. First, the OJSC (the number of shareholders is unlimited) and the shares of the land from everyone, then they bought up some of the shares and were reorganized into CJSC ( where, according to the law, no more than 50 people), then they bought up the remaining shares, then the closed joint-stock company - bankrupt and the local chairman - the owner of everything, well, 2-3-4 of the smartest farmers
                    The village will not vote for Grudinin, it will not ...
                    And the city WILL be - the city (not knowing the rural realities) thinks - it pays the money on time, does not thump with women on yachts, does not go to Bentley with flashing lights - a popular candidate !!! OUR !! yeah, right now ..
                    just a good gentleman ...
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 1 March 2018 17: 07
                      +1
                      Quote: your1970
                      during the period from December 23 to 26

                      Just three days before the new year. Now March is in the yard.
                      Quote: your1970
                      transmission, what time

                      There are no dates, no names of programs.
                      Quote: your1970
                      I am a resident of the country, and I looked at people like Grudinin in the 90-2000s head over heels.

                      Are Muscovites buying land better?
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 2 March 2018 08: 53
                        +1
                        Ingvar 72
                        I understood your idea - they didn’t show you a movie about the Second World War, the media index on the KP RF website is incorrect, the broadcasts are not indicated .... I’m not tired of lying ???
                        You manage on the page SITE KP RF NOT see the dates, time, names, positivity / negativity, the fact that Grudinin is one of the three by the positive coverage of the media

                        1) all claims for index dates and dates-to the website KP RFwrite to them (I’m hysterical and screeching about how they offend Grudinin - here he is missing his ears)
                        2) Website KP RF
                        https://kprf.ru/politindx/171740.html
                        December 25 2017
                        PM00:02
                        Russia 1 # Sunday evening with V. Soloviev
                        The situation in world politics (part 5 and 6)
                        P. Grudinin, B. Titov
                        December 26 2017
                        PM19:00
                        Russia 1 # 60 minutes
                        In Ukraine, they want to equate Russians with the Nazis (1,2,3 part)
                        P. Grudinin, V. Zhirinovsky
                        December 26 2017
                        PM23:18
                        Russia 1 # Evening with V. Soloviev
                        The situation in world politics (part 4)
                        P. Grudinin
                        “Thus, from December 23 to 26, P. Grudinin (three times), B. Titov and V. Zhirinovsky spoke on analytical television programs. NTV channel released two story interviews with K. Sobchak,“ First ”- a short interview with P Grudinin. "
                        3)
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Are Muscovites buying land better?
                        - And such as Grudinin are "Muscovites buying up land." This is most accurately you noticed ...
        2. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 28 February 2018 07: 09
          +29
          Bullied for their "g" to agitate. He is nobody and there is no way to call him. All his achievements - squeezed out (obviously in criminal ways) during the perestroika trouble of the collective farm, unpretentious rental business and a cover in the form of greenhouses with strawberries. He is a political zero multiplied by 100500 populist promises.
          "Forward this message to 10 more friends, in the elections put a tick for G and tomorrow you will be Happiness!" <- all social networks are crammed with such viral rubbish, and I walked to the original source, there is a fake account, the same dummy as the candidate.
          And do not answer me, your choice is your choice. And my monastery with its own charter.
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 28 February 2018 07: 25
            +25
            g1washntwn agree with you. A certain Mr. “G” appeared out of nowhere and as a result would go nowhere, planting a good face of the Communist Party. Greenwood's comment was particularly striking
            Grudinin is the only candidate behind which real things are visible, but not balabolstvo and posturing.
            What are you doing? But balabolstvo really shows through all the cracks and outright lies about their finances.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 28 February 2018 07: 44
            +38
            Quote: g1washntwn
            Bullied for their "g" to agitate. He is nobody and there is no way to call him. All his achievements are depressed ... ... He is a political zero multiplied by 100500 populist promises ...
            ... viral rubbish clogged all social networks ... ... a dummy like a candidate.

            Here is a visual portrait of a drugged man with a dull mind, and of course a mess. An ordinary squabbler and a hater who simply spills out negative emotions in the most indecent terms, which cannot give any intelligible argument except for the words of hatred (well, perhaps, about three foreign accounts).
            We all, until recently, in 2014, were surprised: "And how can you zombify the whole population of neighboring Ukraine to the level of horses and pots ??". And here is a good example, admire, and such instances we have a good third on the site.
            These people do not see point-blank that in modern Russia 1% of people own 80% of all wealth, the rest live on the residual principle! They refuse to see that it is Grudinin and the Communists who can change this alignment, but not the Guarantor who created and maintains such lawlessness.
            1. g1washntwn
              g1washntwn 28 February 2018 08: 43
              +7
              The communist model has outlived itself and the engine has long been on a different path. There is no need to tell tales how this candidate will magically return a full-speed train to old rusty rails. Lenin died, bury him in the end.
              The West has created that economic model that is exclusive to him and Russia’s attempts to create an economic, political and world security model are unacceptable to him. Because of this, their universal howl. We have a natural war between the parasitic ideology of the West and those ideas and values ​​that Russia declares. Proceed precisely from this. And you are trying to use tactical concepts to achieve global goals of dominance. So get to the phrases “Why stand to death 27 km from Moscow? After all, there is Stalin, who generally controlled all the resources of the USSR” ....... This is for you to “think before answering”.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 28 February 2018 09: 17
                +25
                Quote: g1washntwn
                The communist model has outlived itself

                The future is socialism. Nothing else has been invented yet. Some countries are already evolutionarily acquiring socialist features. Sweden, an example. It will be a shame if Russia re-enters socialism, but already among the latter. We have a chance to try to fix it. You need to come to the polls and vote correctly.
                1. seos
                  seos 28 February 2018 11: 27
                  +7
                  And what does Socialism, Communism, and the current Communist Party and Grdinin have to do with it? these are different things ... Even if these "communists" come to power in the country, nothing will change for the better ... only at the trough will other snouts appear ...
                  All their populist legislative initiatives, created to fool the people ... like we submitted and no one even voted ... but the evil Putin is to blame for everything ....
                  1. SERGUS
                    SERGUS 28 February 2018 14: 41
                    +5
                    Quote: seos
                    Even if these "communists" come to power in the country, nothing will change for the better ... only at the trough will other snouts appear ...

                    Well, with such a position, Yeltsin could rule to death.
              2. Dr_engie
                Dr_engie 28 February 2018 09: 52
                +3
                What are the values ​​and ideas of Russia? Rob your own people?
              3. Svarog
                Svarog 28 February 2018 10: 10
                +11
                Quote: g1washntwn
                We have a natural war between the parasitic ideology of the West and those ideas and values ​​that Russia declares

                It looks like a pro-Putin slogan, can you explain what ideas and values ​​Russia is declaring?
                1. g1washntwn
                  g1washntwn 28 February 2018 10: 49
                  +3
                  It seems that you do not know at all what kind of document was signed in San Francisco on June 26, 1945. And it starts like this:
                  WE, THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS, FULFILLED DECISIONS
                  to save future generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our life has brought untold sorrow to humanity, and
                  reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and in the equality of rights of large and small nations and
                  create conditions under which justice and respect for obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be respected; and
                  to promote social progress and better living conditions with greater freedom,
                  AND FOR THESE PURPOSES
                  show tolerance and live together, in peace with each other, as good neighbors, and
                  join forces to maintain international peace and security, and
                  ensure the adoption of principles and the establishment of methods so that the armed forces are used only in the common interest, and
                  use the international apparatus to promote the economic and social progress of all peoples,
                  DECIDED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS.

                  What is Russia declaring? Elementary compliance with this document.
                  What does the USA declare? If we can, we do it, America is above all!
                  1. uskrabut
                    uskrabut 28 February 2018 11: 58
                    +10
                    Quote: g1washntwn
                    What does the USA declare? If we can, we do it, America is above all!

                    Now the fate of Russia and its people is being decided. Russia will be strong - they will reckon with it, then it will be possible to knock on the UN with its shoe. In the meantime, WADA spat upon the slander of our athletes, the IOC did not allow the Russian team with our flag and anthem to the Olympics, and Zhukov went on his knees to crawl in front of these American lackeys. There has long been no smell of strong Russia.
              4. zoolu350
                zoolu350 28 February 2018 10: 33
                +11
                You are mistaken. The USSR is not the past, it is the FUTURE! A spaceship built with a hammer, nails and wood did not fly far, but even its short flight is a guiding star for the entire planet and the construction of a new USSR is only a matter of time.
              5. uskrabut
                uskrabut 28 February 2018 11: 53
                +18
                Quote: g1washntwn
                The communist model has outlived itself

                It looks like VO Chubais has registered! Why do you dislike the communist idea? Normal fair economic theory. A dead end is capitalism, causing tremendous harm to the planet, enslaving the population, a snake, guzzling itself by the tail, the source of everything, absolutely all economic crises. It’s high time to end capitalism, as well as its ideologists or all the people of the planet Khan Earth!
              6. saigon
                saigon 28 February 2018 16: 59
                +3
                Dear, understand sectarians to prove that either it is not possible unequivocally, simply there is no way.
                Now the birth of the sect of the savior of Russia and the people of the unreasonable and or lazy gentleman or already comrade Grudin is observed.
                Every set is based on the fact that the authority of a guru, a leader or a messiah, is, of course, not in dispute.
                Adherents are always right and cannot listen to the other side (undermines the authority of the leader)
                Evidence and arguments do not work in communication with sectarians, for the guru knows everything and the beam of all, for only he is right.
            2. marline
              marline 28 February 2018 09: 42
              +4
              Quote: Stas157
              They refuse to see that it is Grudinin and the Communists who can change this alignment, but not the Guarantor who created and maintains such a lack of rights.

              Change one 1% of Putin's henchmen to 1% of Grudinin's henchmen? No one doubts this at all. Most simply do not want such a replacement.
              1. seos
                seos 28 February 2018 11: 29
                +3
                This is at best .... in the worst collapse of the country, regions and eternal wars between them ... to the glory of the State Department
                1. marline
                  marline 28 February 2018 11: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: seos
                  This is at best ...

                  I want to think about people well, even about people like Grudinin. wink
                  Although you, of course, are right.
              2. Stas157
                Stas157 28 February 2018 12: 01
                +10
                Quote: merlin
                Change one 1% of Putin's henchmen to 1% of Grudinin's henchmen? No one doubts this at all. Most simply do not want such a replacement.

                What is important to you, who is personally in power or what does this power do? And the Communists offer a lot to do. Remove the oligarchs from the feeder. Nationalize key defense and oil and gas companies. Remove the dependence of the ruble on the dollar. And most importantly, to bridge the terrible gap between rich and poor, which under Putin is only expanding.
                1. marline
                  marline 28 February 2018 12: 42
                  +3
                  Quote: Stas157
                  What is important to you, who is personally in power or what does this power do?

                  It may be a discovery for you, but the presidential elections in Russia vote for personalities, i.e. choose a specific physical. face wink
                  Quote: Stas157
                  And the Communists offer a lot to do.

                  How much do they do? What did they do, for example, from 1995 to 1999 when they had a majority in the Duma? Exactly, they offered to arrange impeachment to Boryusik, but “couldn’t”.
                  To be honest, I have little interest in what political bankrupts are proposing to do (to say the least).
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Remove the oligarchs from the feeder.

                  Whom will they clean? One more time? You have a typo ... At least because there are enough millionaires in the lists of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Nationalize key defense and oil and gas companies.

                  Which enterprises are proposed to nationalize?
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Remove the dependence of the ruble on the dollar.

                  From the work of Vysotsky: "Rub - not money, chop - a piece of paper." How are you supposed to remove the addiction?
                  Quote: Stas157
                  And most importantly, to bridge that terrible gap between the rich and the poor

                  Is it proposed to make everyone poor? Grudinin, as I understand it, will start from himself?
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 28 February 2018 14: 20
                    +11
                    Quote: merlin
                    It may be a discovery for you, but the presidential elections in Russia vote for personalities, i.e. choose a specific physical. face

                    A specific individual, that is, a candidate, represents the further development of the state, for example, towards capitalism, or towards a more social state. Behind any candidate are forces. For Putin - the oligarchs. For Grudinin - the Communists. If you want to vote for a candidate who is worth nothing, then you need to vote for Sobchak.
                    Quote: merlin
                    How much do they do?

                    Quote: merlin
                    What did they do

                    Quote: merlin
                    Whom will they clean? One more time?

                    Quote: merlin
                    Which enterprises are proposed to nationalize?

                    Quote: merlin
                    How are you supposed to remove the addiction?

                    Quote: merlin
                    Is it proposed to make everyone poor?

                    How that burst! Do you have questions or accusations? If the questions are naive, the answers to them are obvious! I personally answered all this ten times. You can see my comments. But you don’t need answers! Truth? You just wanted to blame and convict, no more.
                    1. marline
                      marline 28 February 2018 14: 55
                      +2
                      Quote: Stas157
                      A specific individual, that is, a candidate, represents the further development of the state, for example, towards capitalism, or towards a more social state.

                      KO?
                      But actually this is what directly contradicts the above:
                      Quote: Stas157
                      What is important to you, who is personally in power or what does this power do?

                      These are mutually exclusive paragraphs, so to speak. Further:
                      Quote: Stas157
                      How that burst! Do you have questions or accusations? If the questions are naive, the answers to them are obvious!

                      All right! "If you have nothing to answer, say the question is dumb."
            3. Lyapis
              Lyapis 28 February 2018 09: 46
              +8
              But what does the "mess" have to do with it, etc.?
              You are talking about slurred argumentation, but where is it for those who drown for Grudinin? What are the “real cases” behind him, if the vast majority of Russians first heard this name 2-3 months ago?
              About 80% of wealth is completely ridiculous, because Mr. Grudinin is just one of the same 1% of the rich (at the same time he didn’t even bother to cover his foreign accounts before the elections). What is more ridiculous is that it comes from the Communists (which in turn shows the bottom upon which the Communist Party has rolled).
              1. Esoteric
                Esoteric 28 February 2018 11: 12
                +13
                Quote: Lyapis
                What are the “real cases” behind him, if the vast majority of Russians first heard this name 2-3 months ago?

                In 1999, the Russians, too, first heard the name Putin, although things were behind him:
                Many years ago, the prosecutor's office closed criminal case No. 144128. Subsequently, he became known as the “Putin Case.” Investigators had no doubt that the then president was implicated in a number of crimes related to embezzlement of budget funds. The investigation was led by Colonel of Justice Andrei Zykov. The former investigator told the publication how he was going to hold the head of state accountable.

                https://svobos.ru/zabyitoe-ugolovnoe-delo-putina/
                And your slander about Grudinin’s billions looks ridiculous after the CEC’s statement on the verification of the documents of the candidate P. Train your hands, accustom them to axes and saws, crowbars and shovels ... lol
                1. Lyapis
                  Lyapis 28 February 2018 11: 29
                  +3
                  In 1999, the Russians also first heard the name Putin, although things were behind him

                  In 1999, Putin had been the director of the FSB for a year now, and before that he had a prominent place in the administration of the governor of the Len.oblast.
                  https://svobos.ru/zabyitoe-ugolovnoe-delo-putina/

                  I have seen quite a few such tales over the past 18 years, probably only there were no accusations of cannibalism. And for that matter, Mr. Grudinin did not inherit his capital either.
                  Train your hands, accustom them to axes and saws, crowbars and shovels ...

                  I am satisfied with my current state, so I will leave this matter to you. wink
                2. SERGUS
                  SERGUS 28 February 2018 15: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: Esoteric
                  And your slander about Grudinin’s billions looks ridiculous after the CEC’s statement on the verification of the documents of the candidate P.

                  I agree with you, although I’m not an ardent fan of Grudinin, the CEC first checked all the documents and registered Grudinin as a candidate, but then it turns out that he has accounts abroad and it was impossible to register him, but he promised to (!) Close them, and I didn’t close it myself. Should have shown help, and not shown. Why was he simply not refused at registration? What kind of circus is this? Or is the CEC not competent with us that it registers under promises? What's happening ?
              2. Stas157
                Stas157 28 February 2018 12: 20
                +12
                Quote: Lyapis
                You are talking about slurred argumentation, but where is it for those who drown for Grudinin? What are these "real things"

                First of all, the communist program and agenda. You read the program, everything is written. Well, or at least my comments. I broke my tongue about talking about the program! This is about argumentation. And on real business. Advanced state farm. The best kindergarten and school in Russia, high salaries, interest-free mortgages ... Everything is known after all! Why stubbornly ask all the time - what did he do ?? God bless everyone!
                Quote: Lyapis
                About 80% of wealth is completely ridiculous, because Mr. Grudinin is just one of the same 1% of the rich (at the same time he didn’t even bother to cover his foreign accounts before the elections). More ridiculous is the fact that he comes from the Communists

                You collective farmer in the billionaires and oligarchs do not write. This is just funny! Grudinin is rich, but not so much. Good oligarch who lives in an apartment building with hard workers! Why do you become like the pro-Putin media?
                Vladimir Ulyanov was also from a high class, but when he made the revolution, no one laughed!
              3. Alber
                Alber 28 February 2018 12: 52
                0
                Quote: Lyapis
                What is more ridiculous is that it comes from the Communists (which in turn shows the bottom upon which the Communist Party has rolled).

                m-yes! nothing to add ...
            4. SPACE
              SPACE 28 February 2018 11: 04
              +8
              Quote: Stas157
              Here is a visual portrait of a drugged man with a dull mind, and of course a mess. An ordinary squabbler and a hater who simply spills out negative emotions in the most indecent terms, which cannot give any intelligible argument except for the words of hatred (well, perhaps, about three foreign accounts).

              “And here’s another visual portrait of another very bright instance, a drugged man with clearly confused reason, and of course, as a rule, he is a bastard. An ordinary squabbler and a typical hater who simply splashes out negative emotions in the most indecent terms, which cannot lead to any intelligible argumentation other than hate words (well, maybe, about three foreign accounts). "
              lol laughing wassat
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 28 February 2018 12: 28
                +9
                Quote: SPACE
                And here is another visual portrait of another very bright instance, a drugged man with clearly clouded reason, and of course, as a rule, he is a zagrudin.

                Of course, you can change my comment, but unfortunately, there is no arguing with real arguments.
                1. SPACE
                  SPACE 28 February 2018 13: 01
                  +4
                  Quote: Stas157
                  but to argue with real arguments, unfortunately, no.

                  For example, here are the arguments in support of Putin: GDP growth, growth in electricity production (which, according to experts, are the key indicators of industrial development in any country) is practically not even the RSFSR, but the entire USSR! The question is where do such volumes of electricity go? On a collapsed industry? You say, no matter how, this is despite the fact that the energy efficiency of consumption in the private sector and industry also does not stand still. Well, as well as the production of steel, meat, grain, weapons, etc. Well, of course, oil and gas, too, including LNG. From automobiles all cities are jammed, and supermarkets burst into queues. The highlight was the acquisition of Crimea, but what do you say for the Crimea? Here in a couple of months they will open automobile traffic on the bridge to the Crimea, will you go on the new Putin bridge? Or fool not allow?
                  Well, what are these positive aspects, or as usual, polypropylene polymers? Your turn... tongue bully
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 28 February 2018 14: 33
                    +13
                    Quote: SPACE
                    For example, here are the arguments in support of Putin: GDP growth, growth in electricity production (which, according to experts, are the key indicators of industrial development in any country) is practically not even the RSFSR, but the entire USSR!

                    Putin's "growth", but do not tell! Growth from the pit of the 90s? Yes. ... But how tall is it? Who are we taller than? The USSR was an advanced country at one time and competed with the United States. And now Russia is competing with whom? What is the size of the economy? Like the USA or China? And what kind of GDP growth in Russia can you name? What the hell are you talking about? Until last year, Russia was still inertia, the first in space was listed. Today and this is a failure! Soon, in terms of the number of launches, even the Chinese will soon get around us! Fini that la comedy.
            5. your1970
              your1970 28 February 2018 17: 52
              +4
              Quote: Stas157
              These people do not see point-blank that in modern Russia 1% of people own 80% of all wealth, the rest live on the residual principle! They refuse to see that it is Grudinin and the Communists who can change this alignment
              I missed somewhere - Grudinin promised to give his 44% stake in the company (worth 3 billion rubles) to the people ?? !!!!!!
              Or is he only ALIEN I’m ready to share wealth - and this is HOLY ??
        3. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 28 February 2018 10: 52
          +4
          Capitalism can not be canceled by the election of the President of the country !!!
          Hold in your hands what you have and do not chase "STRAWBERRY in chocolate!"
          The 90s of the last century can be seen by many not going to good or forgot what shit the country got out of.
          Let's skip ahead .. hey wey!
      2. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 28 February 2018 11: 04
        +10

        A chance to break the country from a dead end. (Vladivostok, 18.02.18). Speech by the proxy of the presidential candidate PN Grudinin, Lieutenant General Viktor Ivanovich Sobolev in Vladivostok.
    4. lis-ik
      lis-ik 28 February 2018 06: 42
      +21
      Quote: Greenwood
      About Putin’s personality cult, I completely agree. Even the VO website has a bunch of people who practically worship Putin, ready to keep him in power indefinitely and calmly carry over any of the most dubious initiatives of him and his government

      These same people will be the first to bark when, in the next term, they will have to lay the last pants in order for the rich to become even richer.
    5. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 07: 11
      +16
      Quote: Greenwood
      About Putin’s personality cult, I completely agree. Even the VO website has a bunch of people who practically worship Putin, ready to keep him in power indefinitely and calmly carry over any of the most dubious initiatives of him and his government

      Moreover, they are ready now to shoot their opponents.
      This is what infuriates me most. This was in the history of our country, no one remembers the lessons. It seems that everyone is literate, they criticized Stalin and Beria for the cult. and they repeat the same thing.
      Do not make yourself an idol — the ability to keep your brains un-poisoned by flattery and think on your own. But the truth was very expensive and worth it.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 28 February 2018 10: 35
        +5
        Quote: Silvestr
        It seems that everyone is literate, they criticized Stalin and Beria for the cult. and they repeat the same thing.

        Oh no no no! Why mislead? Actually, we had a cult until the last days of the USSR Ulyanov (Lenin V.I.) Therefore, the current liberals thanked him for oblivion, covering the Mausoleum with plywood and not mentioning anywhere, because they are still afraid of his ideas as an incense.
        And his ideas are more than relevant even after a century in our country.
        The problem with the people now is that in Putin they want to see the leader of “all the oppressed,” and he is “king” by nature.
        1. Esoteric
          Esoteric 28 February 2018 11: 20
          +9
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          The problem with the people now is

          The problem with the people now is that they are not allowed to choose a guarantor of their constitutional rights. Everyone strives to push through the little man who put the device on the chapters and articles of the KRF. It is explained only in love and affection for your friends and answers only to the "necessary" questions. And his fear is known. He is afraid of the truth. He is afraid to tell the people that in no future does a person have labor with such (his) rule, a place under the sun does not exist. Everything is occupied there by the "elite" and proxies ... belay
          1. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 28 February 2018 13: 09
            +5
            Quote: Esoteric
            The problem with the people now is that they are not allowed to choose a guarantor of their constitutional rights. They all strive to push through the little man who put the device on the chapters and articles of the KRF

            I would also put the device on most of these chapters and articles in the RF Public Health, because this Constitution was written by our liberals from the government under the dictation of the American intelligence services.
            The problem is that the current government does not want to change this OZ and does not give it, but the Guarantor is satisfied. How many attempts were there to make a proposal to review the health outcomes? Seven? So what?)
          2. flicker
            flicker 28 February 2018 14: 53
            +5
            "The Central Committee (CC) of the party proposed removing the phrase from the constitution that the chairman and deputy chairman of the PRC" can hold no more than two consecutive terms. " This is in China, where the REAL Communist Party, where there is a stable ideology. Why do they want to extend the tenure of Xi Jinping?
            1. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 1 March 2018 22: 08
              +1
              Quote: flicker
              Why do they want to extend the tenure of Xi Jinping?

              Probably in order to prevent the appearance of the Chinese Tagged with the Chinese Alkash, and after that the gop company of "effective red reformers".
      2. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 28 February 2018 17: 05
        +4
        Silvestr Today, 07:11 ↑
        Greenwood
        "" But the truth was very expensive and worth it. "" "
        From my life experience - who refers to the Truth - usually LIES!
        According to the cult ..
        Putin's billions ..
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 28 February 2018 17: 44
          +7
          Quote: To be or not to be
          By Cult .. By Putin's billions.

          What did you mean by these that Rotenbergs, Secheni, Milera got rich on this? Do you know how much the cost of the Kerch bridge increased from the initial estimate?
          1. To be or not to be
            To be or not to be 28 February 2018 18: 49
            +4
            Quote: Svarog
            Quote: To be or not to be
            By Cult .. By Putin's billions.

            What did you mean by these that Rotenbergs, Secheni, Milera got rich on this? Do you know how much the cost of the Kerch bridge increased from the initial estimate?

            It was not necessary in the 90s of the 20th century to jump and Want in European!
            They divorced us and today they further breed ..
            Just came across a picture - what are the right words
            1. woron333444
              woron333444 2 March 2018 16: 36
              0
              To be or not to be A bunch of pluses good
    6. Cube123
      Cube123 28 February 2018 07: 48
      +16
      Quote: Greenwood
      Question: people, how long will you be so cowardly and passive that you are afraid to change anything in the country? How long will you tolerate this jackal in power, hiding behind PR actions and pseudo-patriotism? How long will you blindly vote for who the current president will point to?

      For "Representative of progressive youth!" The question is clear.

      When you grow up and grow wiser, you will understand that changes can be not only for the better, but also for the worse, and much more. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

      It's not about not changing anything. The thing is to change consciously and well prepared for each of your next step. And choosing a "pig in a poke" and "maybe a ride" for the better, you should not wait for changes. Life is arranged in such a way that in order to change something for the better or create something good, huge efforts are needed. And in order to destroy everything, it’s enough just to let it go. Watches are not repaired with a hammer, planes are not created on the Maidan, more than 99% of newly created companies fall apart during the first few years of their existence due to the incompetence of their creators. Therefore, I want to see a competent person in the leadership. Too much depends on him. This is not cowardice, but basic life experience and common sense.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 February 2018 08: 24
        +19
        Therefore, I want to see a competent person in the leadership.
        some, having spent time in the leadership, achieved competence in taking money from the people.
    7. victor50
      victor50 28 February 2018 08: 11
      +1
      All right. But what do you suggest? Personally, I do not know what to do in this situation, but I would really like to ...
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 28 February 2018 08: 30
        +7
        Quote: victor50
        All right. But what do you suggest? Personally, I do not know what to do in this situation, but I would really like to ...

        “Do what you must, and be what will be”
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 28 February 2018 09: 54
          +2
          Quote: Cube123
          Quote: victor50
          All right. But what do you suggest? Personally, I do not know what to do in this situation, but I would really like to ...

          “Do what you must, and be what will be”

          The man asked for advice, and you ... pour water. You say, do not be shy, your opinion. Or do not you know what to do? In addition to your beautiful syllable, I would also like to read your opinion.
          I guess what the answer will be. Type
          “Do what you must, and be what will be”
          1. Cube123
            Cube123 28 February 2018 10: 45
            +6
            Quote: BecmepH
            Quote: Cube123
            “Do what you must, and be what will be”

            The man asked for advice, and you ... pour water. You say, do not be shy, your opinion. Or do not you know what to do? In addition to your beautiful syllable, I would also like to read your opinion.
            I guess what the answer will be. Type
            “Do what you must, and be what will be”

            This is not my syllable repeat

            And my opinion, if you are really interested, is that elections are needed in order to understand the mood in society. To get a statistical slice of the state of affairs in different regions. This is the most valuable statistical information that will be used in the next 6 years. Therefore, I am for the population to go to the polls and make their own! (and not imposed from outside) choice.

            And what will be the result? Then we'll see. I am not a supporter of the theory of predictability of development. For me, development is a process of constant competition, Darwinian evolution, in which the strongest, or the fittest, must win. This is beneficial to everyone, because it improves the breed.
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 28 February 2018 10: 54
              +1
              Quote: Cube123
              This is not my syllable

              I meant how you correctly set out everything. Not flattery.
              Simply, I myself can’t boast of the ability to write beautifully and correctly, but sometimes they write such a thing that you can’t catch the thought
              1. Cube123
                Cube123 28 February 2018 10: 58
                +5
                Quote: BecmepH
                I meant how you correctly set out everything. Not flattery.

                I live for a long time, I saw a lot. drinks
              2. Cube123
                Cube123 1 March 2018 07: 26
                +3
                Quote: BecmepH
                sometimes they write that you can’t catch a thought

                Thought and decided to supplement smile

                In my opinion, elections are not even necessary in order to choose the most worthy. Although this is important. Elections are needed on their own. They create a competitive environment. Those who are above, they do not give "rest on their laurels." To those below, they create incentives for self-development and guidelines. This applies not only to the election of the President, but in the most general sense.

                A simple example from life: of the billions of sperm, only one fertilizes, possibly the most viable. And it is impossible to predict in advance which one will be specific. The main thing is not to put an insurmountable obstacle in the way of latex, and then life will continue. smile

                Military analogy: "The soldier who does not want to become a general is bad." But the army, consisting of only generals, is not combat-ready. Those. the goals in life are more important, and whether they are all achieved, this is secondary.
                1. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 1 March 2018 09: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: Cube123
                  Thought and decided to supplement

                  In my opinion, elections are not even necessary in order to choose the most worthy.
                  Totally agree with you. But!
                  Personally, I have the feeling that this Election is not an election, but a farce.
                  Candidates nominated to give credibility to the election.
                  It's like I'm watching a play. Tragicomedy ...
                  1. Cube123
                    Cube123 1 March 2018 09: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: BecmepH
                    Totally agree with you. But!
                    Personally, I have the feeling that this Election is not an election, but a farce.

                    A true statesman needs to be prepared for several decades. And immediately prepare a group, and then choose the most worthy of them. I think that any responsible leader understands that he is not eternal. And the preparation of such a group will be one of the tasks for the next 6 years. In the meantime, yes, a group of clowns pulling money allocated for the election campaign.
                    1. sapporo1959
                      sapporo1959 1 March 2018 11: 43
                      0
                      And in time for six? The State Department is not asleep, and Grudinin is not sleeping?
                      1. Cube123
                        Cube123 1 March 2018 11: 51
                        +3
                        Quote: sapporo1959
                        And in time for six? The State Department is not asleep, and Grudinin is not sleeping?

                        Are you sure that such preparation has not yet begun? For example, I have already seen several candidates who were trying to "raise". But they obviously did not pull.
    8. Maverick1812
      Maverick1812 28 February 2018 08: 52
      +13
      This is called voting for "stability" !!! For the stable salaries of top managers of state corporations, for stable gold parachutes, for steadily rising taxes (including excise taxes, design changes, customs duties, the notorious Plato and many, many ...) for steadily rising energy prices (and therefore for everything in general), .... And only the steadily growing well-being of the population, the development of high-tech industries (not the ones that Chubais throws at us) did not exist! We have not ceased to be a “country of gas stations”, proud of the high grain harvests, we are buying grain (of the best quality) over the hill, from the word ATTENTION - we do not produce machines, credited the population and small business with predatory interest !!! Still there is a desire to vote for THEIR STABILITY !! ???
      PS It is not necessary to think that one thing serves in the power structures, although the system is imprisoned precisely for the education of such "personnel" and oh, how hard it is for a thinking person .....
      1. flicker
        flicker 28 February 2018 15: 03
        +5
        Still there is a desire to vote for THEIR STABILITY !! ???
        Yes, and here's why:
        "the decision of the ruling communist party to give X an opportunity to stay for a third term?"
        Because the world is entering a zone of political upheaval, and in order to reduce their harmful influence, the Chinese Communist Party considers it necessary to maintain Xi’s tenure in power. It is about political stability. China needs it, but it seems to us not!
        1. Maverick1812
          Maverick1812 6 March 2018 13: 46
          0
          Chinese stability is expressed in the largest economy in the world, and Russian stability in the robbery of the population and resources ....
          It’s probably nice to hear that we have new types of weapons, but my Dad and Mom get 15 thousand pensions for two !!! And Grandmother, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, died and was robbed by Sberbank and K (30 thousand rubles in 1991)! I myself stand in line for EDSV with the prospect of receiving it in 439 years (I’m just 439, but they give one a year) !!!! I definitely won’t vote for such stability! And let Kiselev and our corrupt media even go on a diarrhea, convincing us of the data from the VTsIOM poll, thinking people will not vote for GDP ...... ISABELLA !!!!!
    9. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 15
      +7
      Quote: Greenwood
      About Putin’s personality cult, I completely agree. Even the VO website has a bunch of people who practically worship Putin, ready to keep him in power indefinitely and calmly endure any of the most dubious initiatives of him and his government. Moreover, for such people, kindergarten phrases like “it was worse in the 90s,” “the West does not like Putin,” “Putin has real business,” “there are no one to preside except Putin, are clowns,” are quite normal arguments.
      We will not remember about Putin’s program, which is not there. About his government, ministers and heads of state corporations, many of which worked with him back in the 90s, and wallowed in nepotism and corruption, we are bashfully silent as well. From the completely incompetent Prime Minister Medvedev, I want to cry. We are not even talking about Putin coming to the debate and answering questions in his own words, and not on a piece of paper. But we will organize a flight with Siberian Cranes, diving behind amphorae, swimming in a font, flying a fighter and another 100500 PR campaigns that are very useful for the state.
      In domestic politics, a complete mess, in foreign confusion and reeling, the economy “grows” within the framework of a statistical error (it seems more like convulsions than growth).
      Question: people, how long will you be so cowardly and passive that you are afraid to change anything in the country? How long will you tolerate this jackal in power, hiding behind PR actions and pseudo-patriotism? How long will you blindly vote for who the current president will point to?

      Well written! My family and I don’t go to the polls! For us, the current government is not legitimate!
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 28 February 2018 10: 16
        +13
        Quote: andrej-shironov
        Quote: Greenwood
        About Putin’s personality cult, I completely agree. Even the VO website has a bunch of people who practically worship Putin, ready to keep him in power indefinitely and calmly endure any of the most dubious initiatives of him and his government. Moreover, for such people, kindergarten phrases like “it was worse in the 90s,” “the West does not like Putin,” “Putin has real business,” “there are no one to preside except Putin, are clowns,” are quite normal arguments.
        We will not remember about Putin’s program, which is not there. About his government, ministers and heads of state corporations, many of which worked with him back in the 90s, and wallowed in nepotism and corruption, we are bashfully silent as well. From the completely incompetent Prime Minister Medvedev, I want to cry. We are not even talking about Putin coming to the debate and answering questions in his own words, and not on a piece of paper. But we will organize a flight with Siberian Cranes, diving behind amphorae, swimming in a font, flying a fighter and another 100500 PR campaigns that are very useful for the state.
        In domestic politics, a complete mess, in foreign confusion and reeling, the economy “grows” within the framework of a statistical error (it seems more like convulsions than growth).
        Question: people, how long will you be so cowardly and passive that you are afraid to change anything in the country? How long will you tolerate this jackal in power, hiding behind PR actions and pseudo-patriotism? How long will you blindly vote for who the current president will point to?

        Well written! My family and I don’t go to the polls! For us, the current government is not legitimate!

        I don’t understand at all where these ratings are drawn from: Putin, my friends, friends of my friends, the few who vote for Putin. Not too lazy everyone counted out of 92 people for Putin ONLY 6 people gathered to vote and these are all women. Here is my personal electoral commission)) hi
        1. your1970
          your1970 2 March 2018 08: 03
          +1
          Svarog
          1) and the rest FOR whom?
          2) do you live in a city or village?
    10. mac789
      mac789 28 February 2018 10: 06
      +4
      In addition to Putin, only clowns were allowed to the polls. As for the incompetence of the prime minister, he is extremely competent in the range of his tasks. But his tasks with the interests of Russia and its people have little in common.
    11. flicker
      flicker 28 February 2018 14: 45
      +6
      The first commandment of a doctor: Do no harm! I emphasize: FIRST. Is the commandment true or not?
  4. fa2998
    fa2998 28 February 2018 05: 44
    +24
    Does this power speak of patriotism? Yes, with a large kipip, a huge number of citizens will go for partisans and shoot them in the back. Bullshit cases, they’ll come up with something else to make people angry. am hi
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 28 February 2018 05: 50
      +37
      Quote: fa2998
      Oprichniki are bad, they’ll come up with something else to make people angry.
      Already come up with a tax on agricultural buildings. In general, it’s funny, you spend money and effort, you buy materials, you build all this for yourself on your land completely and completely at your own expense, and then for some reason you pay a tax for it, as if the state helped me in the construction.
      1. Lantau
        Lantau 28 February 2018 05: 58
        +30
        Greenwood, local patriots will come running now and accuse you of not understanding the current political situation)))) It’s hard for your homeland, and you are only pushing people from the true path with your thoughts))))
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 28 February 2018 06: 44
          +27
          hi
          Quote: Lantau
          local patriots will come running and accuse you of
          Oh, I have no doubt.
          Quote: Lantau
          the current political situation)))) It's hard for the motherland
          Yeah, in this difficult time for the country, when "they declared war on us" (s), the people must heroically "tighten their belts" (s) and rally around the "national" leader, who "is not changed at the crossing" (s). And in general, people, "there is no money. You stay there, all the best to you, good mood, health is important!" (C) love
        2. Sirocco
          Sirocco 28 February 2018 06: 49
          +15
          Quote: Lantau
          Greenwood, local patriots will come running now

          Hello hello))) Idler, I'm already here. You know what’s most surprising, I’ve said about it more than once that incitement to the modern government of Russia is done by those who do not need it, pensioners, educators, and other state employees, oddly enough, these are people who got up at exactly 00, bought apartments, cars , some of my friends have a mug about the car, and they whine most of all, it is especially touching when they remember pensioners and teachers, although my son and daughter-in-law went to St. Petersburg to rest and drove fighters for pensioners, Porsche.
          But really those who need live on 10-15 tyrov, well, they don’t sit on the net and don’t scribble, but work, look for money, what the Internet says, what networks, forums, and pensioners, this is ridiculous, there are certainly nuggets, but it's at 1000, one that is a user. How is that? Do not tell me? laughing
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 28 February 2018 07: 03
            +20
            Quote: Sirocco
            but it’s 1000, one,

            I’ve been a pensioner for 18 years and I’ve been working for 50 years. And I'm still working and not a watchman. So what ?
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 28 February 2018 07: 33
              +9
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              So what ?

              What does not suit you? What are you an active PC user? This is not for me, this is for a psychiatrist. Rejoice at the fact that you are so, and do not claim me.
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 28 February 2018 07: 45
                +22
                And then! What would I grow buttercups in the country on a well-deserved rest, and not work in full form. This is in order to live DECENTLY, insert teeth, buy medicines and pay for utilities. And do not whine that life is hard. Yes, I still have to drive a car to work - the situation is obligatory!
                1. Sirocco
                  Sirocco 28 February 2018 07: 52
                  +8
                  Quote: Uncle Lee

                  And then! What would I grow buttercups in the country

                  laughing Oh my friend, you are a crafty person, you are dangerous. My father-in-law is already under 70, my pension is not complaining, but you’re not going to sit at home; And in my place of work, there are two pensioners who cannot be driven out.
                  1. Uncle lee
                    Uncle lee 28 February 2018 08: 03
                    +9
                    Quote: Sirocco
                    dangerous you

                    Of course it’s dangerous - I’ve been working in a St. John's wort, I beat the beast from the SCS, the skill remains ....
                    And I go to work, that would be in good shape, not sour retirement ... hi
          2. Lantau
            Lantau 28 February 2018 07: 17
            +20
            It’s so patriotic to immediately call a person to you and hang tags))) You know, my colleague and a very good friend once stood in New Zealand under unloading (I don’t remember which port) and he went with his crew to the local football field to kick ... So, the field is very well-groomed, locker rooms are open, hot water, towels, soap ... They played, washed and did not pay a dime for it !!! Tell me why ?! After all, Russia is the same capitalist country as New Zealand .... What is the difference ?!
            1. Hottabych
              Hottabych 28 February 2018 08: 36
              +9
              And my colleague, a very good friend, went to Malaysia and fell with the flu, and he paid more for an injection from the temperature than for the whole rest.
              You say this post is about nothing? So your not far gone. Well, they played football, well, washed somewhere, so what? What kind of outback do you live in, that you have nowhere to drive the ball to and not to wash?
              1. Lantau
                Lantau 28 February 2018 09: 02
                +9
                You know, the point is not even in this football field and not in hot water, but that the authorities of this country and the authorities of this city thus take care of their own citizens !!!
                1. Hottabych
                  Hottabych 1 March 2018 18: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: Lantau
                  the authorities of this city thus take care of their own citizens !!!

                  So I ask, do you have nowhere to play football and wash?
          3. passing
            passing 28 February 2018 07: 19
            +7
            But really, those who need live on 10-15 tyrov, well, they don’t sit on the net and don’t scribble, but they work, look for money, what the Internet is saying, what networks, forums,

            That is, you acknowledge that people thanks to this power survive
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 28 February 2018 07: 29
              +13
              Quote: passing
              That is, you acknowledge that people thanks to this power survive

              We are obviously not needing),))) and let's formulate correctly, the homeless survive on squares and train stations.
              Thanks to this power, they have a job that they did not have in the 90s, they sold the last one who was a shuttle in the bazaar, now they work poorly poorly, I agree that wages are low but it's better than poverty. Well, to be honest to the end, it is better to work at one job and get a decent salary than to pull two straps. If we dig further, then what are some individuals driving up to a coup and a mess in the country. Then I choose 10-15 tyrov, and a bad world than a good war. Which will be the last in the history of the Russian Federation.
              1. passing
                passing 28 February 2018 08: 55
                +11
                If we dig further, then what are some individuals driving up to a coup and a mess in the country.

                I hope that in our country we can do without a coup.
                But your approach to the situation is touching. Let some gobble up, others die of hunger, but for that there is no mess in your opinion. So there is a mess, there is a division of society into classes, poverty of the population will continue to get worse and worse .. For that, in Moscow everything is fine and let's not escalate.
                Let's look at the election results.
              2. sapporo1959
                sapporo1959 28 February 2018 17: 13
                +3
                By the way, when you yourself will not live on these 10-15 tyros a lot, I think that you will not change your attitude to the authorities and will not write so cheerfully about the heaps of people in bazaars and supermarkets .. By the way, these heaps were in the nineties. I thought, how is it that there seems to be no work and for some reason everything is at the bazaar ... And for what they are only buying?
          4. Dart2027
            Dart2027 28 February 2018 07: 51
            +3
            Quote: Sirocco
            You know what’s most surprising, I’ve said about this more than once that incitement to the modern Russian authorities is done by those who do not need it, pensioners, educators, and other state employees, oddly enough, these are people who got up at exactly 00, bought apartments, cars , some of my friends have a mug on the car, and they whine, more than anyone

            What's new in this? History repeats itself in the last century, what now.
          5. Gardamir
            Gardamir 28 February 2018 08: 38
            +10
            Can you tell me?
            why not prompt. on the example of an older brother. He is thirteen years older and does not sit in tyrnets. So the brother's collective farm in the 90s surprisingly developed. and in the zero quickly reformed and optimized. Over 15 years, birch trees have grown in the fields. And his brother will work in one place, will not receive a salary, then in another, he would wander until retirement.
          6. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 23
            +1
            smile Fool an honest public. I am on the net and scribbling, however, I have to work a lot. Yet family and children.
          7. BecmepH
            BecmepH 28 February 2018 10: 07
            +8
            Quote: Sirocco
            incitement to the modern government of Russia, pensioners,

            I didn’t want to upset you, but I am the one who does not seem to fit into the portrait you wrote (sorry for the pun).
            1. I-needing pensioner (disabled person)
            2. Not satisfied with the current government
            3. And, s * ka, the user
            How is that? Do not tell me? laughing
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 16: 39
              +2
              laughing Western, it looks like he and the adherents of power do not agree with the figures!
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco 28 February 2018 06: 20
      +13
      Quote: fa2998
      Yes, with a large boom, a huge number of citizens will go to partisan,

      Are you sure? Are you naive as a child, or you don’t work in a team, we have the majority in the team for Putin, since there is no alternative to him, well, no, at least you burst together with the Grenvod, suggest someone standing? Grudinin, or what?))))) Zhirika?))) Who, whom, recently read a clever thing))) I remember Ukraine, 14 years old, the beginning of the crisis, miners talking, formidable, big words, they say how the miners will leave the mines how to take a club, how to trample the adversary)))), What is the result?
      Miners are out of politics, we need to teach children, feed our families, and so on. Do not hope that there will be no partisans, not even education, and there are no patriots. Many will vote for Putin, but in the event of a coup, some of the voters speak bluntly, the taiga is big, what for I need. )))))))) We go further, the man wrote an example, a hospital, a surgeon, with 20 years of experience, a qualified specialist, and a young specialist from the institute, who do you lie on the table to and trust in?
      Quote: Greenwood
      How long will you tolerate this jackal in power, hiding behind PR actions and pseudo-patriotism?

      Dear, you are also naive, or a provocateur, there is such a representative in the herd, they let him in, but he doesn’t get to the slaughterhouse, they take him aside. Who said? Do you remember?
      "Revolutions are prepared by geniuses, carried out by fanatics, and scum enjoy the fruits of revolution."
      Who is the real opposition to modern power? I would not like to see Ksyusha, Navalny, the capitalist Grudinin, Zyuganov, who, maybe you? Who is behind you, whom will you lead, what is your program? Where will Zin get the money so that the next day after the election, everyone would immediately live happily and richly, Ah? What do you propose to us, democracy? Hunchback already sowed it, what do we have?

      According to Plato. In a democracy:
      · Citizens stop reading laws, both written and unwritten,
      · Consumerism is prevalent everywhere,
      · Extreme alienation from each other, selfishness;
      · All this ends with the fact that extreme freedom turns into extreme slavery;
      · The arbitrariness of the crowd goes into the arbitrariness of one,
      · Democracy turns into its dialectical opposite - tyranny.

      PS
      There are a lot of questions for Putin, the whole mess is tired, I think he himself understands, and his entourage that if during this period of 6 years they do not change anything in the country, this will be their last reign. God forbid a revolution in Russia, we’ll drown in blood, Ukraine will appear as flowers. (((((((
      1. kenig1
        kenig1 28 February 2018 06: 45
        +4
        Remember how GDP appeared and who it was.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 28 February 2018 06: 58
          +20
          Quote: kenig1
          Remember how GDP appeared and who it was.

          Remember what came before him.
          Now think about what will happen in Russia in the event of a coup, we are here in VO, like dogs, there is no unity, but what will happen in the crowd, on the Maidan, we will cling to each other's throats, despite the fact that we are all citizens of one country, we only think differently, but the most disgusting is that, as always, an aggressive minority, 10-15% bends the passive majority. All blather, the power is not that, but show me that, well, I'm waiting. Awww, well, who will we put on the reign? Who's the millionaire Koreiko here, who, after the election, will provide everyone IMMEDIATELY, with work and money? Well, announce the whole list, how to lift it off your knees. what has already raised the GDP. Oh damn, Lavrov is a hundred times right in his statement.
          1. Prometey
            Prometey 28 February 2018 07: 53
            +29
            Your statistics are beautiful, but not correct. There is one more column missing - price increases over these 17 years.
            The average monthly salary cannot be an indicator of well-being in principle - for the seller receives 15 thousand a month, and the deputy is the State. Duma - 500 thousand, and their average salary - 250 thousand. Welfare can be measured by the minimum wage and the opportunity to live on it, as well as retirement. Everything is sad there.
            And so everything that is stated in the article is true. An important merit of Putin is the construction of a neo-feudal state and the division of society into 2 classes - seniors and mob. And laws are already being written separate for each of them. The inviolability of certain posts (estates) is a typical norm of feudal law. The example of the “drunken judges” is very clear. And there is also tax integrity for oligarchs, whom the Federal Tax Service does not have the right to verify in principle (these are the words of the tax authorities themselves). But the main thing is stability. And someone said already in history - after us at least a flood. In the meantime, she must endure and work for the seniors.
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 28
              +14
              Quote: Prometey
              Your statistics are beautiful, but not correct. There is one more column missing - price increases over these 17 years.
              The average monthly salary cannot be an indicator of well-being in principle - for the seller receives 15 thousand a month, and the deputy is the State. Duma - 500 thousand, and their average salary - 250 thousand. Welfare can be measured by the minimum wage and the opportunity to live on it, as well as retirement. Everything is sad there.
              And so everything that is stated in the article is true. An important merit of Putin is the construction of a neo-feudal state and the division of society into 2 classes - seniors and mob. And laws are already being written separate for each of them. The inviolability of certain posts (estates) is a typical norm of feudal law. The example of the “drunken judges” is very clear. And there is also tax integrity for oligarchs, whom the Federal Tax Service does not have the right to verify in principle (these are the words of the tax authorities themselves). But the main thing is stability. And someone said already in history - after us at least a flood. In the meantime, she must endure and work for the seniors.

              So Putin’s adherents have all the statistics cunning. Because comparative analysis immediately destroys all this grandeur.
            2. Dart2027
              Dart2027 28 February 2018 09: 44
              +6
              Quote: Prometey
              Your statistics are beautiful, but not correct.

              Why don't you bring yours?
              Quote: Prometey
              An important merit of Putin is the construction of a neo-feudal state and the division of society into 2 classes - seniors and mob

              The people and the Communist Party?
              1. sapporo1959
                sapporo1959 28 February 2018 17: 21
                +4
                Well, consider it. In 2003, the pension is 2 thousand rubles. Sugar is 14 rubles, bread is milk 8-10, coffee 50, a bottle of 45, cervelat sausage we have 87, and neck 110. Now the pension is 10 thousand, well, these new prices are ten turned into the same two. So where, then, let me find out according to statistics and peppy statements of members and candidates for members of the ruling party today that is lifting us actively from our knees and other limbs ..?
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 28 February 2018 18: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: sapporo1959
                  In 2003, the pension is 2 thousand rubles. Sugar 14 rubles

                  In 2018, sugar from 27 rubles
                  http://tsenomer.ru/produkti/sahar/
                  Sausages are different and the price is also different and there are a thousand per kg, but there are many times cheaper.
                  1. sapporo1959
                    sapporo1959 28 February 2018 18: 28
                    +4
                    Well, then there were different ones on Sakhalin. This is what I only remember. Well, nowadays sugar costs 60 rubles on Sakhalin, and a cheap fish that was between 03 and 14 now trades at 250 and now you can see for yourself what to write times and calculate how much I have become for fifteen years richer and more satisfying as a pensioner to live ...
                    http://tsenomer.ru/russia/gorod/65/
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 28 February 2018 19: 49
                      +2
                      Quote: sapporo1959
                      http://tsenomer.ru/russia/gorod/65/

                      And there are no other prices at all? One grade of tea for all of Sakhalin? By the way, if you look at the links of budget calculations, then in some, the price is already at 2000 per kg, and in some at 500. And the rest of the prices also jump.
                      1. sapporo1959
                        sapporo1959 28 February 2018 20: 27
                        +2
                        Well, you won’t be full of tea, but since Sakhalin Island, the prices are usually the same everywhere, but this is all a trifle. At 03 I got to know our Sakhalin system more closely with the hospital system and was somehow not satisfied. Give everyone, and they won’t even heal, and the other day our Korsakovsky went to the forum and what am I reading ..! The same problems, and in addition, they didn’t do everything, because there are no reagents. Apparently, over the fifteen years of raising them from their knees, they ended and the rise in GDP didn’t affect them ..?
                        https://korsakov.sakh.com/forum/?sub=1681366
            3. marline
              marline 28 February 2018 10: 27
              +6
              Quote: Prometey
              Your statistics are beautiful, but not correct. There is one more column missing - price increases over these 17 years.

              Perhaps you can correct it in numbers? To write that everything is bad - does not require a big mind.
          2. kenig1
            kenig1 28 February 2018 08: 02
            +10
            I don’t grow up for the coup, I will be on the side of the authorities, but I came across our justice about which our president says that it is independent. I was hinted about the bribe that I have to pay for a positive decision, and I know how Zorkin roofs his business, how the FSB and the prosecutor’s boast boast that they are roofing, wrung out and are going to do it.
            1. passing
              passing 28 February 2018 11: 58
              +1
              I don’t grow up for the coup, I will be on the side of the authorities, but I came across our justice about which our president says that it is independent. I was hinted about the bribe that I have to pay for a positive decision, and I know how Zorkin roofs his business, how the FSB and the prosecutor’s boast boast that they are roofing, wrung out and are going to do it.

              good Here we have a lot! All are not D.Artagnans, but I hesitate with the line of power. The Communists will win, I’ll dig out a school ticket. Liberals will stay digging party card deeper. If only at the trough, and whom to hang anyway hi
          3. Stas157
            Stas157 28 February 2018 08: 48
            +21
            Quote: Sirocco
            Remember what came before him.

            Now think about what will happen in Russia in the event of a coup

            All the “achievements” are before the shock of the 90s, at the moment when the collapse occurred and the country fell to the bottom. And if you look around how people live, then not achievements at all! At what level of welfare does our people live? The quality of life in Russia at the level of Pakistan, Vietnam and Morocco. The average salary at the level of Brazil and Mexico is lower than in China ... These figures have nothing to brag about - you need to be ashamed of them!
            P.S. Your numbers are slightly tightened, which is not surprising, of course. In Russia, the average salary for the last year was 500-550 dollars. For comparison, in the impoverished Baltic countries about 1000 dollars, the Romanian gypsies 800-900 !, in normal countries, about 2000 - 5000 dollars .. If you have such "achievements", are the pinnacle of luxury, then you have too low an opinion of yourself and the Russian people.
            In our country, the richest in nature, the people simply must live well! In the meantime, only the top live well, and at the bottom 20-30 million (of the working population, including!) Below the poverty line.
            Therefore, friends, the only thing we can do is go to the polls and vote correctly.
            1. astronom1973n
              astronom1973n 28 February 2018 09: 33
              +4
              Quote: Stas157
              For comparison, in the impoverished Baltic countries there are about $ 1000; in Romanian Roma, 800-900 !, in normal countries, about $ 2000 - $ 5000.

              Who said that, especially about Romanian gypsies? Is there any facts? Or how do they say "proof" to the studio, and not from echo matzah, but from something significant. No? Then compare the costs of a communal apartment, prices and taxes in these countries .
          4. vitalm
            vitalm 28 February 2018 10: 24
            +4
            That's right, let Grudinin now instead of the state farm raise the republic, for example Tuva, and we will see. He deserves the presidency in 2024 or not, something like that. And so he got out of nowhere and no way to call. It’s time to send Uncle Zyu to the dustbin of history, he vulgarized the entire communist (socialist) idea and lowered the communists below the baseboard
            1. Prometey
              Prometey 28 February 2018 11: 55
              +9
              Quote: vitalm
              That's right, let Grudinin now instead of the state farm raise the republic, for example Tuva, and we will see.

              And what about Putin getting to the Kremlin? What area or municipality? Doesn’t come to my mind.
            2. Monarchist
              Monarchist 28 February 2018 13: 15
              +3
              vitalm, I agree 100 times: “Uncle Zyu should be sent to the landfill of history” ABSOLUTELY all the troubles that VV has no ALTERNATIVE and Zyu is to blame. If you listen to him, he thinks about us day and night, but in reality ....
              12 years ago, the left had to carry out “Papa Sue” and nominate a SUSTAINABLE leader!
          5. New Year day
            New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 41
            +4
            Quote: Sirocco
            what will happen in Russia, in case a coup happens, we are here in VO,

            why do you compare the ELECTION with the coup? In my opinion, NOBODY calls for AX!
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 28 February 2018 13: 18
              +8
              Quote: Silvestr
              why do you compare the ELECTION with the coup? In my opinion, NOBODY calls for AX!

              Because, for the pro-Putin people, this is a real revolution. For everything will begin to change not in their favor, but in favor of ordinary citizens of the country.
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 28 February 2018 06: 54
        +27
        Quote: Sirocco
        we have the majority in the team
        Do you work in the State Duma? There is also a majority for Putin. lol
        Quote: Sirocco
        there is no alternative to him, well, no
        I have already spoken about this. There is always an alternative! The problem is not its absence, the problem is unwillingness see her. But you don’t want to see her because of the fear of change, because of the complex “as if something did not work out”, which unfortunately controls the psychology of many Russians.
        Quote: Sirocco
        Dear, you are also naive, or a provocateur, there is such a representative in the herd, they let him in, but he doesn’t get to the slaughterhouse, they take him aside.
        Dear, it would not hurt you to correctly formulate your thoughts and learn how to correctly put punctuation marks. For reading your stream of consciousness is very difficult.
        Quote: Sirocco
        Who is the real opposition to modern power?
        What do you mean by real opposition? What are the criteria for its difference from the existing opposition?
        Quote: Sirocco
        There are a lot of questions to Putin, the whole mess is tired, I think he himself understands, and his entourage, that if for this period of 6 years, they will not change anything in the country
        Well, who after that is naive? Putin has been in power for 18 years. eighteen!!!! History knows many examples when during such a period the states were completely restored after wars, revolutions, unrest, etc. Putin has not defeated a single serious problem in the country since 18. And now you really think that he will have enough 2000 years to restore order in the country at an accelerated pace?!?!
        Quote: Sirocco
        will be their last reign
        Well, you are just a captain of evidence. According to the Constitution, Putin is no longer supposed to deal with deadlines.
        Quote: Sirocco
        God forbid a revolution in Russia, we’ll drown in blood, Ukraine will appear as flowers. (((((((
        That is, if not Putin, then revolution? In Russia, is everything so bad that everything rests on one person?
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          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 28 February 2018 10: 26
            +5
            Quote: Sirocco
            The deadline is not only Putin, but also peace and tranquility in Russia.

            Everything is so calm around Russia that I’m tired of it ...
      3. passing
        passing 28 February 2018 07: 29
        +13
        There are a lot of questions to Putin, the whole mess is tired of him, I think he himself understands, and his entourage that if during this period of 6 years they do not change anything in the country, then this will be their last reign.
        Unfortunately, this government and those who are near the feeder want to consolidate their positions by any means. But a way to improve the life of the population is excluded!
        And if the "elite" is not changeable through elections, then the country will sooner or later come to blood, unfortunately
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 28 February 2018 07: 46
          +8
          Quote: passing
          And if the "elite" is not changeable through elections,

          I think that the problem in this case is not the elite’s turnover, the United States, two parties are playing the elections, England is the monarchy, Germany will be brought forward by Merkel, Japan, China, India, and others, for decades, of course, there are issues in some countries, but the overall picture is satisfactory . I think the problem is the greed of the elite. And what to do? God knows him, I just judge by my work, there are older than me, pensioners and younger, young people look at the elders, well, the elders say so, there’s no one to choose from, and this is the last election they go to hoping for improvement. I really do not want to lose what you have, God forbid Maidan where they will run? Taiga like some?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 28 February 2018 07: 57
            +5
            Quote: Sirocco
            I think that the problem in this case is not the elite’s turnover, the United States two parties are playing in the elections, .... I think the problem is the elite’s greed.

            The problem is that our elite has not yet fully understood that "only a strong Russia will ensure the security of their capital." Everything is simple. And fairy tales about the succession of elites, democracy and other things exist only in the imagination of naive people.
            1. passing
              passing 28 February 2018 09: 06
              +5
              And fairy tales about the succession of elites, democracy and other things exist only in the imagination of naive people.

              To hell with your grandmother shit democracy. The so-called elites must fulfill obligations to the country in which they earn.
            2. marline
              marline 28 February 2018 10: 39
              +6
              Quote: Dart2027
              The problem is that our elite has not yet fully understood that "only a strong Russia will ensure the security of their capital."

              They all understand tea is not exactly dumb. The reasons why Russia did not become "strong" just yesterday, and we still have not 2 thousand pensions. There are many Baku people: from the banal greed of the "elite" to real economic problems that are not so easy to solve. Meanwhile, the process is going on, just meeeedlenoo ....
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 28 February 2018 10: 44
                +3
                Quote: merlin
                They all understand tea is not exactly dumb.

                The fact of the matter is that the frantic veneration of the "advanced west", with its supposedly inviolability of the emergency and an independent court, is only now beginning to slowly pass.
          2. passing
            passing 28 February 2018 09: 03
            +5
            I really do not want to lose what you have,

            Now, this is the most important thing for the majority. The fine line between something you have and not x ... you don't.
            Here I am about the same. There is no guarantee !!!! Worse may be better not.
            You yourself said what we are accustomed to under the current rulers. We do not expect the best.
            You can endure it before improvement and you haven’t experienced it, but no one even promises improvement. That's at least Taxes !!! read about the increase in real estate by 20, calculate the cost of energy to 20. And you are all about Ukraine. Yes, we ourselves go to this
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 44
          +9
          Quote: passing
          Unfortunately, this government and those who are near the feeder want to consolidate their positions by any means. But a way to improve the life of the population is excluded!
          And if the "elite" is not changeable through elections, then the country will sooner or later come to blood, unfortunately

          But Putin is serene, he believes that the time has not come and everything is under control. And he does nothing - he is waiting for the election. Tsar Nikolai also believed that everything was under control and the time had not come. And when he was persuaded to abdicate, and then arrested in Tsarskoye Selo, he thought that there was some kind of error.

          I see that Putin is perplexed. He does not know what to do. The budget is empty, billions are still going to the United States. The economy is falling, and he is waiting for the election.

          I do not believe that he will do anything after the election. I do not believe that he is capable of this. That he has a will to do so. I do not believe that he knows what and how to do it. And I do not want to leave my future in such unknowing hands. The only thing I believe in is that after his election the liberals and the empty budget will not go anywhere and taxes will be raised in the country. And then prices will rise again.

          If he lacks power, let him turn to the people. But he does not appeal.

          If traitors interfere with him, let him create a movement that he will lean on. He will be supported. But he does not create.

          Time lost in all directions. Russia is already in a war, but you cannot win a war with such an elite.

          Russia needs another leader. The one who will lead her to victory, even through hardship. The real leader, and not declared as such lured bureaucrats. Not reactive, but proactive. He who has the will not only tolerate and evade, but also act decisively. Not in Syria, but in Russia. I live in Russia. So that I feel that people are taken care of. Not brainwashed, but really taken care of.



          Putin in the Crimea showed the ability to act. And he stopped there. If he does not do what is needed now, someone else will do it. But before that, the country will receive a disaster. They just crush us - Trump has already rolled to Russia. The reel will only increase. What Russia will answer Gref, Manturov, Nabiullina, Dvorkovich, Siluanov and Kudrin - I do not even want to think.

          The more Putin pulls and waits, the more frustration he will get from the people. And then no one will give a broken penny for his life. If Putin is the main enemy of the West and the Fifth Column, then Putin must now begin to act. Do not wait for the weather by the sea, but act. It’s not the army that needs to be changed — your immediate circle and government must be changed. To go out to the people. The USSR fell, having the strongest army in the world. The army does not save from conspiracies and betrayal. But not to disperse the traitors on the eve of the war is an even greater betrayal.

          Not only his life, but ours depends on the actions of the president. And the longer his passivity drags on, the greater will be dissatisfaction with Putin. The more active the elite will prepare for his overthrow. And while he is slow, I do not like him. Procrastination of death is similar. The slow president plays the life of the whole country.
          ➡ Source: https://publizist.ru/blogs/33/18093/-?utm_source=
          politobzor.net
      4. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 February 2018 08: 44
        +11
        capitalist Grudinin,
        And what’s the current bum? He has so much money that he himself said that he no longer counts his salary.
        There are a lot of questions to Putin, the whole mess is tired of him, I think he himself understands, and his entourage that if during this period of 6 years they do not change anything in the country, then this will be their last reign.
        on any last election, then he will remain without an election to sit.
        And what questions do you have for him? All is well. An experienced surgeon knows how to cut patients on a table. And then, God forbid, a young man comes, but heal someone else by inexperience.
      5. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 26
        +4
        Quote: Sirocco
        Quote: fa2998
        Yes, with a large boom, a huge number of citizens will go to partisan,

        Are you sure? Are you naive as a child, or you don’t work in a team, we have the majority in the team for Putin, since there is no alternative to him, well, no, at least you burst together with the Grenvod, suggest someone standing? Grudinin, or what?))))) Zhirika?))) Who, whom, recently read a clever thing))) I remember Ukraine, 14 years old, the beginning of the crisis, miners talking, formidable, big words, they say how the miners will leave the mines how to take a club, how to trample the adversary)))), What is the result?
        Miners are out of politics, we need to teach children, feed our families, and so on. Do not hope that there will be no partisans, not even education, and there are no patriots. Many will vote for Putin, but in the event of a coup, some of the voters speak bluntly, the taiga is big, what for I need. )))))))) We go further, the man wrote an example, a hospital, a surgeon, with 20 years of experience, a qualified specialist, and a young specialist from the institute, who do you lie on the table to and trust in?
        Quote: Greenwood
        How long will you tolerate this jackal in power, hiding behind PR actions and pseudo-patriotism?

        Dear, you are also naive, or a provocateur, there is such a representative in the herd, they let him in, but he doesn’t get to the slaughterhouse, they take him aside. Who said? Do you remember?
        "Revolutions are prepared by geniuses, carried out by fanatics, and scum enjoy the fruits of revolution."
        Who is the real opposition to modern power? I would not like to see Ksyusha, Navalny, the capitalist Grudinin, Zyuganov, who, maybe you? Who is behind you, whom will you lead, what is your program? Where will Zin get the money so that the next day after the election, everyone would immediately live happily and richly, Ah? What do you propose to us, democracy? Hunchback already sowed it, what do we have?

        According to Plato. In a democracy:
        · Citizens stop reading laws, both written and unwritten,
        · Consumerism is prevalent everywhere,
        · Extreme alienation from each other, selfishness;
        · All this ends with the fact that extreme freedom turns into extreme slavery;
        · The arbitrariness of the crowd goes into the arbitrariness of one,
        · Democracy turns into its dialectical opposite - tyranny.

        PS
        There are a lot of questions for Putin, the whole mess is tired, I think he himself understands, and his entourage that if during this period of 6 years they do not change anything in the country, this will be their last reign. God forbid a revolution in Russia, we’ll drown in blood, Ukraine will appear as flowers. (((((((

        How human it is! The whole mess is tired but Putin is everything! laughing
      6. Svarog
        Svarog 28 February 2018 10: 25
        +9
        Quote: Sirocco
        PS There are a lot of questions for Putin, the whole mess is tired, I think he himself understands, and his entourage, that if for this period of 6 years, they will not change anything in the country, then this will be their last reign. God forbid a revolution in Russia, we’ll drown in blood, Ukraine will appear as flowers. (((((((

        This is the most touching conclusion .. especially that you think that Putin himself understands everything .. And that there will be his last 6 years .. And of course the scarecrow about Ukraine lastly ..
    3. Fox
      Fox 28 February 2018 06: 41
      +25
      Quote: fa2998
      Does this power speak of patriotism? Yes, with a large kipip, a huge number of citizens will go for partisans and shoot them in the back. Bullshit cases, they’ll come up with something else to make people angry

      so patriotism is for Putin, for Sechin, for Rosneft!
      and for the Russian people is extremism!
      1. flicker
        flicker 28 February 2018 15: 11
        +5
        so patriotism is for Putin, for Sechin, for Rosneft!
        No, of course, patriotism is for Grudinin, who is supported by the State Department.
        1. PVL176
          PVL176 28 February 2018 22: 48
          +1
          You are a funny person! Watch Grudinin’s interview for Rain, where five people wet him, the journalists of Bloomberg, BBC, Vedomosti and Rain. They soaked it in one dudu. And who does the State Department support? I believe the current government. She is completely satisfied with the State Department.
          1. flicker
            flicker 1 March 2018 10: 22
            +2
            Watch Grudinin’s interview for Rain, where five people wet him, the journalists of Bloomberg, BBC, Vedomosti and Rain. They soaked it in one dudu. And who does the State Department support? I believe the current government. She is completely satisfied with the State Department.

            You are a funny person!
    4. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 07: 14
      +18
      Quote: fa2998
      Does this power speak of patriotism?

      I don’t remember who said: they were talking about patriotism, that means they have already stolen something or are going to steal it. Look at our "patriots" from the Duma! Everyone lives there, everyone has a home there, children too. And squeal the most
      1. passing
        passing 28 February 2018 09: 09
        +6
        Look at our "patriots" from the Duma! Everyone lives there, everyone has a home there, children too. And squeal the most

        Absolutely agree.
        Look at Eun, the whole elite is at hand, and that’s the United States.
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 28 February 2018 11: 50
          +1
          Look at Eun, the whole elite is at hand, and that’s the United States.

          Do the USA know about their own bend? And Eun himself apparently is not a country, but a paradise on earth, a role model?
          1. passing
            passing 28 February 2018 12: 04
            +3
            Quote: Lyapis
            Look at Eun, the whole elite is at hand, and that’s the United States.

            Do the USA know about their own bend? And Eun himself apparently is not a country, but a paradise on earth, a role model?

            they know, therefore, they are trying to strengthen sanctions against the DPRK.
            And a role model in repelling the aggression of a foreign state.
            None of their elite is afraid that they will take away real estate and business in the partner countries
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 28 February 2018 12: 45
              0
              Well, nevertheless, in more detail, than how did Korea put the USA in the belt? In the economy, standard of living, military power, human development?
              And even in repelling the aggression of a foreign state, Korea, to be honest, has not really succeeded, simply because no one has attacked it for the past half century. It is more profitable for Americans to keep it as a scarecrow than to finish it off completely.
              And you hope you have no illusions that a simple Korean hard worker lives in the same prosperity as Eun?
          2. zoolu350
            zoolu350 28 February 2018 15: 44
            +1
            The owners of the Fed know about the bend of their DPRK, but they can not do anything. You won’t be especially fond of aviation and boats, because next to the People’s Republic of China, which instantly hits the horn, and the DPRK elite do not have children in Yale and offshore money. Sadness for the owners of the Fed. Eun has a country that he can afford in the present conditions, the mattresses in the place of the North Koreans would be bent right away and crawled to beg for favor from the enemy.
    5. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 20
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      Does this power speak of patriotism? Yes, with a large kipip, a huge number of citizens will go for partisans and shoot them in the back. Bullshit cases, they’ll come up with something else to make people angry. am hi

      No, I’ll go partisan, but I won’t shoot from the back! Only honestly face to face!
  5. Mihail55
    Mihail55 28 February 2018 06: 30
    +7
    The right things are saying. They think right. They write correctly. And the eternal question WHAT TO DO? Is there an alternative? Specifically, go to the polls and check the box for the person you trust ??? My opinion, while not! It’s a pity ... and 6 years will be wasted. WITH THESE, the remnants of the still SSSerov industry are readily in Bose. Hope only for a “successful” foreign policy and a “huge victory” at the Olympics are so sick !!!!! But was there a choice in the 70s or 80s? What can a "small" man ... a "screw"? With all hordes to change power, choose a brazen moron and hope for manna from heaven? MUCH MUCH stability is better than revolutionary CHAOS! Have you been taught anything for 100 years? So, you have to put a daw in a famous place, it’s not a pity ... But, I believe, Russia will always be a STATE, and not a mongrel licking master's w ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 28 February 2018 06: 58
      +22
      Straight sadomasochism of some kind. Noah, how bad life is in Russia, and then we go to vote for this very "bad", so that then again whine for 6 years. Not tired?
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 28 February 2018 07: 18
        +9
        Quote: Greenwood
        Straight sadomasochism of some kind.

        Your suggestions, where have you been before? Would familiarize us with your program, we would collect signatures, and nominate you as a candidate. And so you just let the gases into the water. Your suggestions, where are we going to rally, protest, and shout? Where are we meeting? Correctly said Zadornov.
        "Ukraine will go down in history as a people who decided that they don’t want to live poorly and began to live even worse,"

        You, as I understand it, offer us the same thing, right?
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 1 March 2018 05: 06
          +1
          Quote: Sirocco
          where are we going to rally, protest, and shout?
          Well, I did not call anyone to go screaming, protesting, rallying. wink
          Quote: Sirocco
          Where are we meeting?
          Meet me at the election.
          Quote: Sirocco
          You, as I understand it, offer us the same thing, right?
          Of course, that’s what they say, cookies will be distributed there.
    2. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 28 February 2018 08: 08
      +6
      "Choice. Alternative. Stayed." - these three magic words of the protest electorate.
      Now, let's take the global task of restoring statehood after a clear loss of sovereignty in the 90s and scale the size and time to the size of apartment renovations. Will the repair be completed at all, if all the time I go about something with my mother-in-law, then my wife, then the hired migrant workers who change their desires every 10 minutes? The choice is the same! Alternative! Our hearts demand change!
      I agree, there are drawbacks. And who without them, let him throw a stone at me. But if things were exactly the way they paint the picture to increase the share of the protest electorate, there wouldn’t be a problem of traffic jams, people still dangled to Moscow for sausage and did not suffer from the choice of versions of different iPhones. You need to change if it's broken. If it works and does not creak, then climb into the engine with a sledgehammer ahead of time is not worth it.
      1. Slava slava
        Slava slava 28 February 2018 15: 23
        0
        What if you climb with a sledgehammer and earn better money and you will reproach yourself that you haven’t messed up before, so many years under the tail.
        1. g1washntwn
          g1washntwn 1 March 2018 07: 35
          0
          That is all the arguments. We’ll choose another .. and suddenly it will become better. My opinion is that it will become worse and certainly. If you are accustomed to repairing your watch with a sledgehammer and doing a brain operation with a guillotine, you have a chance to make your choice in the upcoming elections.
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 28 February 2018 08: 46
      +8
      Russia will always be a STATE
      And you do not think that such a state can disappear. Some want to destroy, while others still have children abroad.
    4. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 10: 33
      +1
      Quote: Michael55
      So, you have to put a daw in a famous place, as this is not a pity ..

      Prophet. How do you know that if we choose not GDP, then there will be
      revolutionary CHAOS!
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 28 February 2018 11: 38
        +2
        Quote: BecmepH
        Prophet. How do you know that if we choose not GDP, then there will be a revolutionary CHAOS!
        I apologize for getting in, but you can peek at the answer in the same USA. The sudden Trump broke the whole cart of the American measured spread of democracy, from plans to drive undesired into the democratic age uncontrollably, to collective farm squabbles between their own departments, parties and others. As long as Trump is properly educated there, until they show him who actually controls the cart, this cart, overloaded with loot, runs the risk of skidding with all its dope. Now let's see what happens if you give the wheel to the wrong person:
  6. moskowit
    moskowit 28 February 2018 06: 48
    +18
    As the people say "golimaya pravda" .... Previously, they all talked about the nomenclature, but now it has all developed and deteriorated qualitatively ... The main thing is to take it "by rank", to whom it is permitted and provided for by "feeding" ... I switched to more high level and promises more ... Hapnul more can be scolded, insolent, imprisoned ... until the first amnesty ... Not long left suffering ... In connection with the inauguration, forgiveness is coming ....
  7. New Year day
    New Year day 28 February 2018 07: 07
    +11
    Quote: Greenwood
    people, how long will you be so cowardly and passive that you are afraid of at least something to change in the country?

    It turns out differently for everyone. I've sued 2 times. once with the Moscow Military District, hard. but that was won only because the opposing side was stupid. though lieutenant colonel of justice. I feel lucky. It's harder with the police. I wrote complaints twice, the last to Kolokoltsev, and the district chief wrote the answer to me. Useless lesson.
  8. Lynx33
    Lynx33 28 February 2018 07: 28
    +5
    I see a statement of fact, but where are the conclusions? The eternal Russian question what to do? My understanding of this issue is Putin’s throne again, because there is no alternative to it at this stage of the development of Russia, from the word in general. But the parliament should be cleaned of the deputies who were sitting there, because everything that the author of this article listed was not Putin invented, but our valiant lawmakers. It is they who promote and come up with laws that are useful to themselves and the oligarchs, systematically expanding the legislative and fodder base for themselves and a huge collection of Russian officials.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 10: 31
      +9
      Quote: Lynx33
      and where are the conclusions?

      The mutation of the police to the police did not change anything.
      Quote: Lynx33
      What to do?

      use peaceful methods
      Quote: Lynx33
      Putin again to the throne

      he will be on it until his death, but unfortunately, he did not live up to my expectations
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 10: 39
      +6
      Quote: Lynx33
      there is no alternative to it at this stage of Russia's development

      Or didn’t they allow this very alternative?
      I don’t believe that for 140 million one such
    3. zoolu350
      zoolu350 28 February 2018 10: 47
      +5
      Again the old song: "The king is good - the boyars are bad" and "bees against honey."
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    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 28 February 2018 07: 55
      +4
      The one who laughs last laughs well!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 28 February 2018 10: 55
        +8
        Quote: Sirocco
        The one who laughs last laughs well!

        laughs well one who laughs without consequences.
        I believe that by the end of the next six years we will not laugh.
  12. Varyag71
    Varyag71 28 February 2018 07: 46
    +3
    You need to understand that the problem is not even in the kings, but those who surround them, in particular, the guardsmen and dogs. There will be none and all, the end of slavery.
  13. Loess
    Loess 28 February 2018 08: 24
    +8
    Actually, I don’t want to argue with those who say that in modern Russia there is a place to be a cult of Putin’s personality.
    Again these old tales about the Main) Cult of personality ... mdya ... For example, I see how the “wrestlers of the cut” are actively, but to no avail, trying to form the cult of Grudinin. Well, yes, winter, vitamins are not enough, it's time for strawberries. Rather, it would be March 18, it will put everything in its place. It remains only a few days to listen to groans about the "wrongly calculated" and by early April there will be silence.
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 28 February 2018 10: 42
      +1
      Quote: Less
      it will put everything in its place.

      Yes, everything is already arranged.
      But with this
      Rather, it would be March 18th,
      and with that
      It remains only a few days to listen to groans about the "wrongly calculated" and by early April there will be silence.
      totally agree
    2. marline
      marline 28 February 2018 10: 57
      +6
      Quote: Less
      For example, I see how the “wrestlers of the cut” are actively, but to no avail, trying to form the cult of Grudinin. Well, yes, winter, vitamins are not enough, it's time for strawberries.

      It’s for sure that vitamins are not enough. Somehow gentlemen, agitators work without a twinkle. Recall 2012 - either swamp, then anti-swamp, then communists are friends with liberals. As baby Zyu said then: I am with my heart in the swamp! It seems so?. In general, there was a drive and a fuse ...
      And now sheer nagging ... even boring ...
      Looks like the State Department poured out a little money, or the “wrestlers" had a crisis ...
  14. digitalcn75
    digitalcn75 28 February 2018 08: 27
    +11
    I asked friends and acquaintances last week who they would vote for (about 20 people), two said that they were for Putin, the rest either would not go, or for Grudinin, or they did not know for whom, but certainly not for Putin.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 28 February 2018 10: 31
      +9
      Quote: digitalcn75
      I asked friends and acquaintances last week who they would vote for (about 20 people), two said that they were for Putin, the rest either would not go, or for Grudinin, or they did not know for whom, but certainly not for Putin.

      I did a bit more of your work. 92 hours interviewed of them only 6 vote for them.
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 1 March 2018 07: 39
        0
        State of Colorado or California? :)
    2. Antivirus2k
      Antivirus2k 28 February 2018 15: 08
      +5
      In general, among my friends I don’t have a vote for Putin, although I don’t have such a massive poll. It feels like a gopher. He is not visible, but he is. Are there any?
  15. Brigadier
    Brigadier 28 February 2018 08: 29
    +15
    Who wants to live the next 6 years in poverty - vote for Putin!
    Who wants our country to be for ALL people living in it, and not just for Putin, his team and their families - vote for Grudinin!
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 28 February 2018 08: 57
      +6
      You have a strange concept of poverty! There is nowhere to put the car, you can go on vacation wherever you want, you can buy what you want and when you want. Housing is being built more and more.
      And is it poverty?
      And Pashka Grudinin will come and everyone will have three cars each with five apartments and work: picking strawberries so that the sternum could finally become a dollar billionaire.
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 28 February 2018 10: 36
        +4
        Quote: K.A.S.
        You have a strange concept of poverty! There is nowhere to put the car, you can go on vacation wherever you want, you can buy what you want and when you want. Housing is being built more and more. And is it poverty? And Pashka Grudinin will come and everyone will have three cars each with five apartments and work: picking strawberries so that the sternum could finally become a dollar billionaire.

        Where have you seen these? Or about those who got into credit bondage forever? This is the hidden form of slavery.
        1. Bratkov Oleg
          Bratkov Oleg 28 February 2018 11: 40
          +4
          And now you select the oligarch Grudinin, he will surrender the Crimea to the Americans, surrender the last ally of Russia - Syria, surrender the Kuril Islands to the Japanese ...
          Do you even know that Khrushchev gave Port Arthur to the Chinese? This was the territory of Japan, which the Russian Empire recaptured from the Japanese, and then Russia again occupied World War II, and Khrushchev withdrew the Soviet troops from there, saying that "we will leave - the Americans will leave." and now the USSR is gone, and the Americans unleashed a war in Korea and Vietnam, these wars are a direct continuation of American aggression on the world.
          So, suggest Grudinin, and climb further under the shagreen blanket, maybe they won’t get there?
          1. Antivirus2k
            Antivirus2k 28 February 2018 15: 19
            +8
            You are so funny, Oleg. Do not count how many bases were withdrawn during the time of Putin? Do not count how many territories were given to the same China under Putin? Or do you completely cover the Crimea? They threw you a peninsula like a bone, and are you glad? Syria is cool, of course, if you do not assume that you are not going to go anywhere from there and the collapse of Syria actually took place anyway, because there are no prospects for complete control over the entire territory by the official authorities. And how, by the way, is Iraq doing with Libya? This, probably, Khrushchev passed them? By the way, why will Crimea be surrendered immediately under Grudinin, is it just interesting for me? Where did such "brilliant" conclusions come from? By the way, get ready that after the election the DPR and LPR will merge. And so beloved Putin will merge them with you (I have no doubt that he will receive the necessary percentages in the “elections”). I’m even ready to argue that it will be so. But then you, of course, will be told on TV that "that's what you need" and this is "not draining at all." They will simply tell you less about those whom the SBU officers will torture from the DPR and LPR. And if they don’t tell, then this doesn’t. After all, is it true, Oleg?
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 28 February 2018 16: 23
              +1
              Quote: Antivirus2k
              Or do you completely cover the Crimea?

              Was there only Crimea?
              Quote: Antivirus2k
              By the way, get ready that after the election the DPR and LPR will merge. And merge them with you so adored Putin

              Once again?
            2. 406ppm2gv
              406ppm2gv 28 February 2018 23: 18
              +2
              By the way, get ready that after the election the DPR and LPR will merge. [i] [/ i] Correctly say the Anti-Virus, for this purpose they quickly created a piece of metal bypassing. In addition, they built nothing. BAM must be modernized for a long time, but as always there is no money.
          2. zoolu350
            zoolu350 28 February 2018 15: 27
            +5
            The hired manager of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation Putin has already given away part of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island and Tarabarov island on the river Amur, People's Republic of China, secondary school have given part of the Bering Sea, Norway part of the Barents Sea. There are muddy gestures on the transfer of part of the Kuril Islands to Japan. Everyone here knows how the oligarchy of the Russian Federation acted with the Russian people of Donbass. So I hope that it is Grudinin who will stop this bacchanal of surrendering territories and people.
            1. g1washntwn
              g1washntwn 1 March 2018 07: 41
              0
              Will cease to crush for so and will be leased as collective farm land?
              1. zoolu350
                zoolu350 2 March 2018 06: 47
                +2
                Oh, have they really recognized that your masters from the oligarchy of the Russian Federation are distributing lands for this? Progress. No, I hope that Grudinin will take away the lands that are the property of the USSR from banderlogs, Baltic states, Georgians, etc.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 2 March 2018 08: 11
                  0
                  Quote: zoolu350
                  No, I hope Grudinin will take away lands that are the property of the USSR from banderlogs, Balts, Georgians, etc.
                  -i.e. war? That is, Grudinin, in your opinion, is no longer a strong business executive, but a leader capable of uniting the country in case of war? Oh, how .....
                  Oh well....
                  1. zoolu350
                    zoolu350 2 March 2018 12: 38
                    +2
                    The war is already underway if you are not in the know. The oligarch of the Russian Federation is only wiping it, expresses concern, merges and surrenders. And the Russian people need a counter-offensive (as near Moscow in 1941).
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 2 March 2018 18: 45
                      0
                      Quote: zoolu350
                      War is already onif you are not in the know. The oligarch of the Russian Federation is only wiping it, expresses concern, merges and surrenders. And the Russian people need a counter-offensive (as near Moscow in 1941).
                      - And which Russian cities were bombed by NATO aircraft - in response to a strike on the Limitrophs? Who in Europe was covered by nuclear weapons ??
                      Do not carry a snowstorm ....
                      1. zoolu350
                        zoolu350 2 March 2018 19: 33
                        +2
                        Donetsk and Lugansk are not Russian cities?
                2. g1washntwn
                  g1washntwn 2 March 2018 08: 31
                  0
                  Quote: zoolu350
                  Oh really recognized

                  Where did you see the confession? These are your words. There is such a thing as “said between the lines”, if you cannot distinguish sarcasm without quotes and emoticons and only laugh at the raised signs “Laughter in the hall”, then you will forgive me for such an intellectual level of discussion.
                  And let's not talk about taking away land. HOW will Grudinin do it? Just as he took possession of collective farm lands?
                  1. zoolu350
                    zoolu350 2 March 2018 12: 33
                    0
                    Quote: g1washntwn
                    Where did you see the confession? And let's not talk about taking away land. HOW will Grudinin do it? Just as he took possession of collective farm lands?

                    Will cease to crush for so and will be leased as collective farm land? - Whose phrase?
                    No matter how he does it. The most effective way. After the destruction of the power of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation, to achieve high growth rates in all areas of society, switch to socialist ideology, de jure recognize the crime of the Bialowieza conspiracy and judge and execute those who organized it, start an ideological and economic war against the Bantustust governments, breaking off diplomatic relations with them and declaring them occupiers, at the same time introducing and supporting organizations spreading imperial ideology in them, after these measures will contribute to the collapse and chaos of the Bantustust, present them to the "governments" ultimatums on holding referendums on their "withdrawal from the USSR" on their territories. And then, according to the current situation, either a military operation using the NSC (the Baltic states, because it is aimed at NATO’s disintegration), or even recognition of Bantustan’s “independence” with the landing of a puppet government there, if its integration into the Empire does not bring tangible economic, political or other benefits (Armenia).
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 2 March 2018 18: 47
                      0
                      Quote: zoolu350
                      De jure, recognize the crime of the Bialowieza conspiracy and judge and execute the persons who organized it, start an ideological and economic war against the Bantustan governments, breaking off diplomatic relations with them and declaring them occupiers, at the same time introducing and supporting organizations spreading the imperial ideology in them, after these measures They will contribute to the collapse and chaotization of Bantustav, to submit ultimatums to “governments” on holding referendums on “re-secession from the USSR” on their territories. And then, according to the current situation, either a military operation using the NSC (the Baltic states, because it is aimed at NATO’s disintegration), or even recognition of Bantustan’s “independence” with the landing of a puppet government there, if its integration into the Empire does not bring tangible economic, political or other benefits (Armenia).
                      - you do not go far - now the doctors will come for you ...
                      You are our imperial .....
                      1. zoolu350
                        zoolu350 2 March 2018 19: 34
                        0
                        And is that all that an adherent of the KhPP could scream? How miserable.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 28 February 2018 13: 18
        +5
        Quote: K.A.S.
        There is nowhere to put the car, you can go on vacation wherever you want, you can buy what you want and when you want. Housing is being built more and more.

        take an interest in how many credits the citizens of the Russian Federation got and how much they should give!
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 28 February 2018 13: 28
          +3
          and someone forced them to take them? take an interest in what credit is, take an interest in what a machine is for example and how much it costs. and can you save up money for it .. if you can get it, I know people who worked as welders saved up for a car for 2 goals, putting aside 30 tons a month, and, like, grants were bought as consumables for half a year
          And what do you think with sternum there will be no loans or you will not have to give them back?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 28 February 2018 17: 16
            +2
            Quote: K.A.S.
            and someone forced them to take them? take an interest in what credit is, take an interest in what a machine is for example and how much it costs. and whether you can save money for it.

            Are you talking about cars or loans? And where does Grudinin? Anyone taking a loan must rely on themselves
      3. Antivirus2k
        Antivirus2k 28 February 2018 15: 13
        +6
        You understand that judging the wealth of the state by “there is no place to put cars” and “everyone has full baskets in the supermarket” is a dumb bottom? Or don't you understand? Do you understand that only officially in the country are 20 million beggars? Do you understand what a "beggar" is, and even according to official data? This is the one who stupidly nothing to eat. This is the one who is slowly dying. You will not see him in the car, you will not see him with a full basket in the supermarket, because he does not go there. You have the position of an ostrich - I hid my head in the sand, I do not see the beggars, which means they are not there. You should drive across Russia if the nerves are strong. They would see not just poverty, but terrible poverty, from which it becomes bad, scary.
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 28 February 2018 15: 23
          +3
          my dear liberal freaking out about 2000000 million beggars. I know less of them! There are 1999997 people. because 3 of these millions I know personally. they are over-age children who do not want to work and beg for money at the store! and for the remaining millions I’ll answer .. of course there are those in need, of course, but there are other millions! Who don’t do anything to change their life! Someone does not allow them to work, or someone forbids. why refugees from the Donbass. immigrants from Ukraine. Of Uzbekistan. Azerbaijan. Tajikistan find work and these 1999997 people go poor and hungry?
          By the way, why do not you employ them, do not pay them a decent salary? You see that they are starving. slowly starving to death, but do nothing to save them! Your nerves are strong!
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      1. turbris
        turbris 28 February 2018 16: 20
        +1
        When you change the flag, then you’ll talk about the elections in Russia, but for now, don’t interfere in our internal affairs, is that clear? And I do not care where you live there, in the Donbass or in Ukraine, elections in Russia are not your business.
    3. Antivirus2k
      Antivirus2k 28 February 2018 15: 09
      +2
      Whoever we vote for will be considered the "right" people.
    4. flicker
      flicker 28 February 2018 15: 15
      +3
      Who wants our country to be for ALL people living in it, and not just for Putin, his team and their families - vote for Grudinin!
      Most fun ... Grudinin himself.
  16. slavaseven
    slavaseven 28 February 2018 08: 35
    +8
    The power to scold is a favorite business of any people. Whiners will always be! Hot summer is bad, cold summer is bad. I ate to the dump - it’s bad, my stomach hurts, tomorrow there’s nothing to eat.
    What are you missing, whiners?
    Better to live than in the 90s-early 2t? The people around me - yes. Can you provide your family with the necessities? Personally, I, and many of my friends - yes. The fact that you can’t buy a car with yourself at ZP or roll overseas - so if you please work more, or build a competent family economy.
    And yes - I myself really, really like to sniff at the president, the bureaucrat, and the state apparatus in the kitchen. I see a lot of minuses in domestic politics, laws. However, the fact - life was not as scary as in the 90s.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 28 February 2018 09: 54
      +4
      Quote: slavaseven
      What are you missing, whiners?

      There are always some problems. This is normal, because life is not a computer game. You cannot create a completely happy society - it is simply impossible. Another thing is that there is a very big difference between discussing some problems and nagging on the principle "the pig will find dirt everywhere." Unfortunately, many do not understand this.
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 28 February 2018 12: 09
      +7
      Quote: slavaseven
      so please work more

      What is it like? The installer worked the shift from 8.00:17.00 a.m. to 18.00:02.00 p.m. (if without emergency calls), and then went to a second job or something - from XNUMX:XNUMX p.m. - until XNUMX:XNUMX a.m.
      Or the surgeon worked during the day, performed a couple of operations in the hospital, and in the evening went to a second job. Would you like to get to such an operation, to a tired, who worked a full day? That is, the measure of the modern economy about wages is not the quality of work, but its quantity. Probably no need to raise children, the main thing is to "raise the dough" - so that the car, Turkey, Tagil.
      1. slavaseven
        slavaseven 28 February 2018 19: 20
        +1
        I apologize, I didn’t put it right about working harder, you know the habit ... from perestroika time and arable land in two jobs. You are right, quality work must be done first.
  17. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 28 February 2018 08: 46
    +2
    Well, as always, the author threw rumors of gossip and made a conclusion that meets the needs and expectations of commentators who blame bad power on everyone
    And in more detail, each person can figure out a lot of interesting details. And this passage
  18. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 28 February 2018 08: 53
    +5
    The author, as always, pulled over various rumors and concluded that all commentators accusing the authorities of all their troubles but not themselves are satisfied.
    Before shedding tears about the innocent, the author needs to deal with each case and may find out what is completely different there as the author describes
    Although what am I talking about? Understand this at the wrong place.
    The author is taken out for what immunity is needed and anyone has it. And inappropriately write nonsense about the inviolability of the FSB Ministry of Internal Affairs officers. And so on.
  19. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 28 February 2018 09: 12
    +6
    Roman, everything is back to square one. The era of Putin is a modern analogue of the Brezhnev era, followed by stagnation and decay. Well, then on the list_Gorbaty and Yeltsin. And voila Russia! There are a lot of analogies to this, however, there are minor differences.
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 28 February 2018 12: 42
      +4
      Dear KA, the author deliberately listens to colors to make the picture even more grim.
      I apologize in advance, but after reading this article, I had an analogy with Anal: either I am the president or everything is bad.
      1. K.A.S.
        K.A.S. 28 February 2018 14: 10
        +3
        I agree 100%! I want to ask the author a loud question: WHAT DID YOU DO ROMA WHAT WAS THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY? MAYBE YOU OPEN ENTERPRISES WHERE DO WORK SALES FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND? MAYBE YOU OPEN A LAWYER AGENCY AND FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF AN innocently convicted. UNDERSTANDING EVERYBODY? MAY BE YOU IN VORONEZH EXPLAINING DRIVERS (non-compliance with the rules) WHAT DO I NEED TO RESPECT MOVEMENT PARTICIPANTS AND FOLLOW THE RULES? WHO SHOULD DO THAT DO OR PUTIN PROHIBITED?
        but Roman chose the path of a man who, instead of personal participation in the development of the country, improving the lives of people in it, points to its shortcomings and shortcomings of society, vigorously exposes. There is nothing wrong. for constructive criticism has always been welcome. however, he does this in such a way that the statements of the artist Serebryakov, about the Russian people and the authorities, the sites of Echo of Moscow and other representatives of the bulk, involuntarily come to mind!
        he does it like a real propagandist. collecting the most unpleasant (often unverified) information and frightens the reader. that everything is bad in Russia and anti-people’s power! A sort of Serebryakov local flood. flavored with propaganda "Echo of Moscow".
        It will end with the fact that someday someone will sue the work of Roman and after that give out unverified information he will lose all desire!
        Such an approach to business spoils an interesting (once) VO site !!!

        ps Remove. the devil with him for the truth can suffer.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 28 February 2018 15: 17
          +1
          Quote: K.A.S.
          The novel chose the path of a person who, instead of personal participation in the development of the country, improving the lives of people in it, points to its shortcomings and the shortcomings of society, zealously condemns. There is nothing wrong. for constructive criticism has always been welcome. however, he does this in such a way that the statements of the artist Serebryakov, about the Russian people and the authorities, the sites of Echo of Moscow and other representatives of the bulk, involuntarily come to mind!

          When I read such articles, I recall my childhood. In the USSR of the 80s, almost the same thing was constantly said. And really a lot was, to put it mildly, not very. But from my own experience I can say that the smartest were those who spit from such conversations.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 28 February 2018 19: 21
          +5
          Quote: K.A.S.
          Such an approach to business spoils an interesting (once) VO site !!!

          Yes, you only like it when they sing songs to the sun, but as someone who puts the truth out, everything is gone .. the site is bad, the author is an agent of the State Department and. etc
  20. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 28 February 2018 09: 51
    +12
    Lee Kuan Yew said about the two development paths of Singapore by telephone, the first to steal and put relatives on Forbes lists, and the second to serve his PEOPLE and put the country in the top ten. And then comes the statement of the gdp, I had two ways, but the second one has already chosen Lee Kuan Yu. I am watching political programs, I myself am not a liberal and I really do not respect all this rotten, rotten audience, however, in disputes with opponents, they are lousing only two questions - these are human rights and economics. I do not consider them right in both matters, but in part they are telling the truth, the economy has failed and there are a lot of examples, human rights, SIMPLE CITIZEN are omitted below the baseboard and there are a huge number of these examples. Do we have power for the PEOPLE or power for the sake of power?
  21. seos
    seos 28 February 2018 10: 02
    +2
    Quote: freddyk
    To vote for Putin and not to vote is the same thing. And then Grudinin was not "selected", he was elected by secret ballot of the entire left movement.

    Do not vote is the same as a voice for the enemies of Russia, all sorts of Navalny are campaigning that people would not vote ... and the Western media mixed Russia with shit, and there, not far from the liberation of NATO ...
  22. AlMih
    AlMih 28 February 2018 10: 02
    +5
    Hello everybody! You are all reasoning here, forgive me, how the lackeys, which gentleman or lady will be better. Everyone expects the “king” to change your life. Not the "king" spread rot you, but the local jackals. So start with them. Put things in order in your place. Over in Ukraine, they decided to exchange a thief for a bourgeois with connections in the State Department and Europe. See the result? Yes, and in Russia commies snickering changed to theirs, from the people, to Boris !!! See the result? And again everyone thinks who to change for .... And the king-priest was changed in 1917 ... Such a system does not work. Maybe start to change the power in their cities and villages so that life in them becomes better and calmer. So that the authorities do not steal. You look, then you will reach the provinces and so that the authorities do not steal there, and there you can sweep the throne.
    That's when you unlearn yourself to steal and learn to respect others, to live honestly, and then you will heal well. But in one generation this will not happen, and you will not do it. Typing is a national hobby. Yes, and the West will not allow you, the world does not need a strong Russia.
    So it remains, so far, one choice is a strong king in a strong country ... And to be serfs of his king, and not slaves of foreign magnates-democrats.
    1. Bratkov Oleg
      Bratkov Oleg 28 February 2018 11: 34
      +1
      And if you overthrow the monarch, then start with the English Queen Elizabeth.
      She is the main evil of the Earth, and not the unfortunate Jews.
  23. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 28 February 2018 10: 15
    +5
    So what? Vote for Navalny and everything will be fine? What is the article about? What does the buffoons offer? And it’s nothing buffoons - so be cursed.
  24. Varyag71
    Varyag71 28 February 2018 10: 46
    +5
    Quote: slavaseven
    The power to scold is a favorite business of any people. Whiners will always be! Hot summer is bad, cold summer is bad. I ate to the dump - it’s bad, my stomach hurts, tomorrow there’s nothing to eat.
    What are you missing, whiners?
    Better to live than in the 90s-early 2t? The people around me - yes. Can you provide your family with the necessities? Personally, I, and many of my friends - yes. The fact that you can’t buy a car with yourself at ZP or roll overseas - so if you please work more, or build a competent family economy.
    And yes - I myself really, really like to sniff at the president, the bureaucrat, and the state apparatus in the kitchen. I see a lot of minuses in domestic politics, laws. However, the fact - life was not as scary as in the 90s.

    One question is what kind of pension do people have? Do ordinary hard workers? Are they already great? Can they ride around the countries? Or buy a car? Dressed in rags, poor health, in stores where almost one counterfeit, save every ruble! So do not whine in defense of your great and terrible.
  25. gorgo
    gorgo 28 February 2018 10: 47
    0
    What a vile picture in the top in its deceit. She, probably, a hundred years old, still Comrade Bronstein with his associates painted? When will you people stop buying such bullshit? ... No, no, and the thought will come that maybe it’s right? What is nothing for the lackeys to raise their heads? ... If the head does not cook ...
  26. uskrabut
    uskrabut 28 February 2018 11: 08
    +3
    I don’t understand one thing, do they consider themselves immortal? Who's stopping such a citizen, squeezed into a corner by power lawlessness, from waiting on a dark night at the entrance ........ b and gently put a rusty water pipe over his skull? Mayhem begets chaos! And protection is entrusted to a very small number of senior officials with whom there is nothing for a simple citizen to share.
  27. Bratkov Oleg
    Bratkov Oleg 28 February 2018 11: 33
    0
    And at the very top is Queen Elizabeth of England.
  28. Vasyav
    Vasyav 28 February 2018 11: 36
    +1
    But the traitor and the enemy is still "Bulk"
  29. To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 28 February 2018 11: 37
    +3
    Quote: Pax tecum

    A chance to break the country from a dead end. (Vladivostok, 18.02.18). Speech by the proxy of the presidential candidate PN Grudinin, Lieutenant General Viktor Ivanovich Sobolev in Vladivostok.

    “During the election campaign, the candidate from the Communist Party Pavel Grudinin acquired a number of socio-political figures who support him, many of whom are diametrically opposed (to put it mildly) to the ideas of communism and internationalism. Their goals in these elections are also far from those of the Communist Party.”

    Openly supported by Grudinin Boris Mironov, former co-chairman of the National Power State Party of Russia "
    In support of Grudinin, the leader of the unregistered Great Russia party, Andrei Savelyev, became
    https://life.ru/t/%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%
    D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0/1088764/nam_vsio_ravno_chto_on_
    ievriei_pochiemu_natsionalisty_poddierzhivaiut_pa
    vla_ghrudinina
    What is not clear here ??
    March 5 begins the movie "Sleeping -2"
    But how much they were bred in one country ??? Kohl so together all climbed out and most importantly for One?
    They cloned the Communist Party with a billionaire fostered in greenhouse conditions with Russian national patriots ... laughing
    1. Monarchist
      Monarchist 28 February 2018 12: 28
      +6
      Frankly speaking, the Communist Party has a strange choice: 1) many in the party still shy away from private property as hell or incense, and here an entrepreneur is nominated from their party. 2) counting other people's money is not decent, but I have a question, where did he get the "starting capital"? I can’t even assemble a wrecked car
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 1 March 2018 05: 11
        +2
        Everything flows, everything changes. And the Communist Party now no longer denies private property and private enterprise.
        Quote: Monarchist
        counting other people's money is not decent, but I have a question, where did he get the "start-up capital"? I can’t even assemble a wrecked car
        He has been working at this state farm since Soviet times.
        1. your1970
          your1970 1 March 2018 08: 27
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          Everything flows, everything changes. And the Communist Party now no longer denies private property and private enterprise.
          -Why did you get this ??? The Communist Party did not try to read the program ??? Do not give out your speculation as a party line ...

          https://kprf.ru/party/program

          "The third stage. Its content will be energetic work on the final formation of socialist social relations, ensuring the sustainable development of the socialist system on its own basis. Will become dominant public ownership of fixed assets. As level increases real socialization of labor and production will gradually establish their decisive role in the economy. The significance of science as the direct productive power of society will manifest itself more vividly. On the basis of the achievements of the scientific and technological revolution, a reconstruction of the national economy will be carried out. More fully and widely, the needs of people will be satisfied. The authorities will ensure the accelerated development of education and culture.
          Communist Party considers socialism as free from exploitation of man by man a society based on public property and distributing the benefits of life according to the quantity, quality and results of labor. "
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 4 March 2018 12: 47
            0

            Listen to Zyuganov’s statement on this subject.
            1. your1970
              your1970 5 March 2018 10: 29
              0
              its bifurcation with PROGRAM (!!!!!) KP RF Let Zyuganov tell his ....

              In my opinion, there are two options: either the program is fake or Zyuganov is not in the topic - what is the party going to do there. Which option is more beautiful for you?
  30. Redfox11
    Redfox11 28 February 2018 11: 38
    +3
    The whole sheet for the last line, like the previous sheet, with a slightly veiled last line and a Freud clause “of course I do not urge anyone to vote, but I will go for Grudinin.” as in the article about the iPhone, the acceptable norm is already passing. By the way, in the USA there is no caste when father is president, son is president, third Bush practically becomes a candidate, and George started the war with a false pretext, ruined thousands of American soldiers and several trillion dollars (Russia would have been enough several years of living) America gained zero benefit from this war and no questions for him. Putin’s personality cult in the USA and in the world is stronger than in Russia and there are objective reasons for this (after all, even during President Medvedev they wrote only about Putin) on the world stage, at the moment, a leader who has won so many victories with such bad cards, plus appearance and background I am human life, as much as possible corresponds to all this image.
  31. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 28 February 2018 11: 43
    +1
    The president is understandable. Deputies - it is clear. The rest where?
    The president is really understandable. And deputies from what ... this very? Do they give birth to laws? So they give birth to them like that, so that their little people could also. From the State Duma to the Pupkinsky Village Council.
  32. Monarchist
    Monarchist 28 February 2018 12: 03
    +2
    man, that's it, but let me ask you 2 questions: 1 what do you specifically propose: to rebel or get drunk to hell? 2 “they say that we have another 6 years of stability”, which means that you are sure in advance of the victory of VV, but why then the presidential election? Let's review the constitution and introduce a hereditary monarchy
  33. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 28 February 2018 12: 10
    +3
    It is impossible to put pressure on the court. This judges have the right to relocate anyone.

    The fact that the oligarchs do not believe in the independent judicial system of Russia is well shown by the fact that they are suing in the UK.
    And besides the judges, the prosecutors are untouchable - they are also “allowed” to go drunk.
    And the Federal Law can be violated - to receive billions in contracts without a mandatory tender - new oligarchs, who for some reason are recorded as friends of the current president.
    Apparently just talented businessmen.
  34. Monarchist
    Monarchist 28 February 2018 12: 10
    +1
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    Roman, everything is back to square one. The era of Putin is a modern analogue of the Brezhnev era, followed by stagnation and decay. Well, then on the list_Gorbaty and Yeltsin. And voila Russia! There are a lot of analogies to this, however, there are minor differences.

    You want to say that a new EBN awaits us? Then certainly Russia’s end
  35. New Year day
    New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 12
    +7
    Quote: BecmepH
    Yes? Go to the Izborsk Club website. Read Delyagin. He suggested and substantiated that Grudinin was a Kremlin project.

    Quote: seos
    Dumb assumptions - the Kremlin does not need any project ...

    You know, we can only speculate, but not know. Be that as it may, but there is a candidate Grudinin, many saw him as an alternative and that’s good. Good, as a minimum in 2 positions:
    1. votes in favor of Grudinin will not go in favor of GDP
    2. if Grudini receives a large number of votes, then I hope that the GDP will understand that he is not the sovereign of the brains of Russia and then, again, maybe, but I do not believe he will finally get down to "household chores".
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 28 February 2018 14: 58
      +1
      New Year day
      The task in one action is to have more come to the polls. To do this, they stirred up Grudinin and the Communist Party took him under his wing (at the expense of the discontent of its members and possible collapse.), And, God forbid, not withdrawn from the race, Maxim Shevchenko became the confidant of presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin.
      The CEC would have long ago removed the "uncovered" for such violations .. "for meldonium" (data concealment) and they would have found meldonium laughing
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 28 February 2018 17: 18
        +3
        Quote: To be or not to be
        The task in one action is to have more come to the polls. For this, they stirred up Grudinin

        and I totally agree with you. You just need to do that with Grudin. what did Zyuganov give him his votes. Then it will be "hu hu"
  36. AleBors
    AleBors 28 February 2018 12: 15
    +3
    As usual, I think that Roman wrote again in the case. As for me, I do not see any (completely) prospects for a change in the country for the better. I want to believe, but reality destroys any dreams. Accordingly, I am preparing for survival elementary. Because, sadly, but I have to admit that it will not be better, but worse, as much as you like ...
    And about the event 18,03 I have already said. I see no reason to participate in this ...
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 49
      +6
      Quote: AleBors
      As for me, I do not see any (completely) prospects for a change in the country for the better.

      It can be stated that the policy of the Kremlin, which began in 1991 with the unconditional surrender to the West and the surrender of the Soviet Union, has reached a final impasse.
      This deadlock is systemic in nature and can only be overcome after a change of power - not just individuals like Putin, Medvedev and the other Shuvalovs, but a change of power as a whole, with the rotation of the elite, a change in the socio-political system, economic model and development paradigm of the country.
      And until the change of power, socio-political system, economic model and paradigm takes place - the Kremlin will continue to stagnate, completely without results, without any advance, because there is simply nowhere to move within the existing model.
      The conditional walls of the economic and political impasse are the raw materials economy, the Washington consensus (set of liberal economic rules), the liberal economy, the technological dependence on the West, as well as the Western elite assets and its interests in integration into Europe, which are both economic and social -psychological character (Westernism).

      All of the listed “walls” of the dead end are in a rigid bundle and hold each other, therefore, none of the walls can be moved or broken apart from the others.
      The liberal commodity economy and the Washington consensus adopted in the 90s led to the destruction of production, the strongest technological dependence on the West and the outflow of capital from Russia abroad.
      Withdrawn capital from Russia turned into foreign assets, real estate, accounts abroad - the total amount of these assets in the late 90s and zero reached such a size that the Russian elite is ready to do anything, any betrayal, if only to keep the exported.

      A significant part of the elite understands that it will not be possible to take out such capital a second time and earn it in Russia by engaging in production - in the foreseeable future, too.
      Foreign assets exported from Russia in the past turned out to be so great that they are more preferable for the elite than prospects for the development of production for the sake of Russia's independence (which is usually an empty phrase for the elite).
      It can be said that the walls from which the impasse is formed are held by the forces of the entire Russian elite, in whose interests the preservation of both the raw material economy, the Washington consensus, the liberal economic model, and other components of the impasse remain.

      And while the elite continues to receive income from trade in raw materials, while its foreign assets are preserved and increased, while it manages to earn here, and to spend there, the walls of the dead end will be maintained and the dead end will retain its configuration.

      The impasse is primarily economic and financial in nature, but the economy determines politics - both internal and external.
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 28 February 2018 13: 50
        0
        The words are good. Just what's the use of them if you have no business?
        Vote for stability ... Though a good word ...
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 28 February 2018 17: 19
          +4
          Quote: AleBors
          Vote for stability.

          so in the cemetery stability
          1. AleBors
            AleBors 28 February 2018 17: 37
            +1
            There is perfect stability ... But we are only on the way to this ideal.
  37. Charik
    Charik 28 February 2018 12: 16
    +1
    what he writes about, we are going to this, we are already there
  38. New Year day
    New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 33
    +5
    Quote: g1washntwn
    The communist model has outlived itself and the engine has long been on a different path.

    Quote: Stas157
    The future is socialism.

    Or maybe the President should simply be a CITIZEN of his country and work honestly?
  39. seacap
    seacap 28 February 2018 12: 35
    +1
    Quote: sapporo1959
    So the iron curtain seemed to be there, but that didn’t stop imperialism and Zionism with the help of chewing gum and jeans to shake our great principles and achievements in the form of the collapse of the USSR ..

    Again, great principles and ideas were betrayed by the "reigning" party elites, as well as the current jurisdictions and the untouchables. They sold the country, their ideals, violated laws and oaths, for the sake of a personal beautiful life.
  40. Monarchist
    Monarchist 28 February 2018 12: 53
    0
    Quote: seos
    Quote: freddyk
    To vote for Putin and not to vote is the same thing. And then Grudinin was not "selected", he was elected by secret ballot of the entire left movement.

    Do not vote is the same as a voice for the enemies of Russia, all sorts of Navalny are campaigning that people would not vote ... and the Western media mixed Russia with shit, and there, not far from the liberation of NATO ...

    You are right: the West will now be flattered from the skin so that as few people as possible come to the polls and then it will be easier for them to say that "the elections were not legitimate * and the people are against the government.
    And if it were also pah, pah Anal president, they would have squealed that the people are happy and the elections were legitimate. Even if 10 people come to the ballot boxes and 1 surname is carefully listed
  41. New Year day
    New Year day 28 February 2018 12: 54
    +5
    can be differently related to what is happening. Screaming "Hurray!" or to blame power, but in my opinion it’s impossible to live like that

    and pretend that NOTHING is happening
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 28 February 2018 13: 53
      +5
      Of course . the country lives much better than before. It would be foolish to argue. BUT. People see how the top lives. sees the scale of corruption and theft. sees how everyone is forgiven debts. including oil-producing countries and much more negative. And since our people are by no means stupid. that begs the question. how to make the president and all officials and deputies work honestly and for the country. and not on ourselves. We are by no means bling but live from paycheck to paycheck or from pension to pension
      1. flicker
        flicker 28 February 2018 15: 21
        +4
        People see how the top lives. sees the scale of corruption and theft. sees how everyone is forgiven debts
        The people should see even more: this is not about fighting corruption, but about whether Russia will or not.
        State Department formula: remove Putin, destroy Russia.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 1 March 2018 05: 16
          +5
          I wonder why there is always doing some kind of equality of the form Russia = Putin? Putin is not Russia. Russia was, is and will be. But Putin comes and goes. And I hope to leave very soon.
          1. flicker
            flicker 1 March 2018 10: 24
            +3
            I wonder why there is always doing some kind of equality of the form Russia = Putin?
            Because they see beyond their nose
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 4 March 2018 12: 48
              0
              Quote: flicker
              Because they see beyond their nose
              Particle "not" forgot to add, yeah. “There are no irreplaceable people!” (C)
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 28 February 2018 17: 23
        +3
        Quote: Cossack 471
        Of course . the country lives much better than before. It would be foolish to argue. BUT

        but no one argues! But the country must know. that the reduction in spending on health and education is associated with military operations in Syria. This is like Afghan for the Union. And why did Syria arise? Because when everything was wonderful, instead of raising production, someone used the money for other purposes. And when the cock pecked, “there is no money, but you hold on”
  42. Z_G_R
    Z_G_R 28 February 2018 13: 21
    +8
    Article + Therefore, I will go to vote for Grudinin. I trust his team. Putin’s team with the Chubais, Sechins, Millers, Medvedevs, Serdyukovs and other liberals is time to leave.
    1. AleBors
      AleBors 28 February 2018 13: 51
      +3
      And the names of the leading five of this team can be seen? Those who are real with experience, not racketeers?
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 1 March 2018 05: 18
        +2
        https://pdsnpsr.ru/posts/komanda
        https://kprf.ru/dep/gosduma/deputies
        So hard, yes, open the Internet and see?
        1. AleBors
          AleBors 1 March 2018 09: 44
          0
          Cool ... Especially the presence of Kvachkov pleased. Solid "theorists" and talkers. A couple of managers. The fire command is just ... Kunstkamera ....
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 4 March 2018 12: 50
            0
            Quote: AleBors
            Solid "theorists" and talkers. A couple of managers. The fire command is just ... Kunstkamera ....
            This is much better than your Medvedevs, Shuvalovs, Nabiullins, Dvorkovichs, Oreshkins, Siluanovs, Grefs, Kudrins, Sechins, Millers and other-other-other balabol, populists and grabbers.
            1. AleBors
              AleBors 4 March 2018 21: 00
              0
              They are not mine. You mixed me up with someone. Nothing happens.
  43. taseka
    taseka 28 February 2018 13: 26
    0
    You can have people to hell, but it’s floating, you know Ceausesca in Romania, I had it, I had it, and then they quickly raped it with my wife and all the AK-74 security people there))) That prosecutors and judges go under the shafts, well you look with a wheelbarrow soon to travel around the camellia))) Everything runs, everything changes!
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 28 February 2018 15: 18
      +3
      Quote: taseka
      know ceausescu remember in romania

      did everything possible so that the country would not be in debt bondage. For which he was killed.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 17: 24
      +1
      Quote: taseka
      Everything runs, everything changes!

      they simply forgot that in Russia from love to hate is one step.
  44. PVL176
    PVL176 28 February 2018 13: 30
    +5
    The article absolutely accurately reflects reality. God forbid to be on the path of the untouchables, if he himself is not like that. Wipe into powder. The most ridiculous and sad thing is that only one aspect of our realities is so detailed and scary. You can take a list on each topic to write a devastating article with sad facts: stratification of society, industry, science, education, medicine, pensions, salaries. And most importantly, there is no clearance or even hope for a change for the better. As the author said "another 6 years of stability" ......
  45. seacap
    seacap 28 February 2018 13: 44
    +8
    All the troubles are due to impunity and complete irresponsibility for any crimes of our thieving, deceitful and corrupt nobility. The Serdyukovs, Chubas, Gorbachevs and Yeltsins, trumps and runaway generals who died from gluttony and whining with Gaidars and dogs, all this bunch of oath-criminals, thieves and traitors who are still alive, continue to sleep softly and eat sweetly, cynically and lazily scolding the country and authorities, caressed carefully guarded by this power from the plebs despised by the people, while continuing to rob and destroy it. A crime committed by the Ministry of Education and Science is in the line, if not higher, with the crime of killing the country. Destroying education and upbringing, destroyed the future of the country, prospects of its development and prosperity. Creativity and fundamental education, knowledge of its history and culture, value system are killed in the bud. A country is forcibly cultivated by profit at all costs as a sign of personal success and exclusivity. In a country with a traditionally communal, collectivist mentality, the principle of individual success, contempt for society, traditional values ​​are replaced by alien to our image life, i.e. hands of our so-called the foundation of the state — its people and society, national culture and traditions, for the sake of overseas masters — caste and abyss separating our people, mutual contempt and hatred, reluctance of the so-called elites, is being destroyed by elite, television, media, and garbage-beau monde. to develop our country due to incompetence, or for another reason, our society in 100 years has led to the same state that we started in 1914. Any impetus will immediately find the leader and the means, and the party whose existence, like then no one suspected, one thing, but whether our country and people could still stand such shocks once more, I doubt something. And yet, now at the helm, let it be bad, if not distant, I doubt that they are stupid, there are no fools there, but still with Soviet and state education and upbringing, in their own way, instinctively protecting the country and people, at least in the form of feeders, genetically connected with the state. But after 6-10 years they will be replaced by their offspring, whom they trained in ha rvards, spruces and other special schools such as our MGIMO and the Higher School of Economics, where they invested and hammered other values ​​and a different worldview, indicated where the hegemon is and who should be served and worshiped, over the past quarter century several generations of his graduates studying in Sorov textbooks have been released who despise and those who hate their country, for whom a worker and a farm worker are associated with the word beggar loser, sucker, and the whole country beyond the MKAD is a miserable rashka, where local princes, who have received allotments, rule the ball as they see fit, most importantly, paying tithes to the metropolis, to the horde.
  46. wax
    wax 28 February 2018 13: 48
    +2
    No money, but you hold on!
  47. Earnest
    Earnest 28 February 2018 14: 07
    +5
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    There is a purposeful company promoting precisely Grudinin in power ...

    Believe it or not, I’m tired of explaining that to people WITHOUT a DIFFERENCE who are in the presidents. It is more important for us who sits in district police officers, in regional hospitals, regional departments, district courts, and other PARADISES. And being sure at 1000% that Putin will get out, I urge you to vote for Grudinin so that the GDP looks at these 10% of votes, links and thinks that it would be necessary to tighten the nuts for these PARADISES, otherwise the wheels of the state machine will fall off
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 28 February 2018 17: 25
      +1
      Quote: Earnest
      so that GDP looks at these

      quite right!
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 1 March 2018 05: 20
      +4
      Quote: Earnest
      that it would be necessary to tighten the nuts with these PARADISES, otherwise the wheels of the state machine will fall off
      He will tighten the nuts, but not to PARADISE, but to the common people. Looking at the newly introduced taxes (such as the tax on agricultural buildings), I have no doubt about this.
      1. your1970
        your1970 1 March 2018 08: 14
        0
        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: Earnest
        that it would be necessary to tighten the nuts with these PARADISES, otherwise the wheels of the state machine will fall off
        He will tighten the nuts, but not to PARADISE, but to the common people. Looking at the newly introduced taxes (such as the tax on agricultural buildings), I have no doubt about this.
        -tax collects within 20% of the budget, and should collect at least 90%. This means that no one pays taxes, neither legal entities, nor individual entrepreneurs, nor physicists
        It has been 17 years since the entry into force of the Land Code - the land is registered by owners with the right to do so - no more than 83% ..
        17% of those using but not registering do not pay taxes at all ....
        1. zoolu350
          zoolu350 2 March 2018 12: 46
          +1
          That is, you yourself, in your own words, recognized the inefficiency of the power of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. At this pace, you will soon break your template and vote for Grudinin. You go the right way!
  48. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 28 February 2018 14: 08
    +3
    The most interesting thing is that all this (another six years) is tied to Putin’s rule .... well, I’d like to say, we'll see when there will be another President, and God forbid that something goes wrong .... that’s how much . In 10-20 years, Putin will become a national hero, and the current President of the Russian Federation will be another whipping boy, in which everything became bad. We know it took place more than once !!!
    1. your1970
      your1970 28 February 2018 16: 23
      +2
      Quote: Alexey-74
      In 10-20 years, Putin will become a national hero, and the current President of the Russian Federation will be another whipping boy, in which everything became bad. We know it took place more than once !!!
      -ag, first about the "bad" Stalin / Khrushchev / Brezhnev / Putin, and then your division !!! Yes, then we’re wow !!!! And everyone reckoned with us wow !!
  49. Radikal
    Radikal 28 February 2018 14: 16
    +3
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    Twenty five again! Every day is the same thing. And now let's talk about democracy on a particular site and its name is Military Review. Once the site administration, specifically Vadim Smirnov does not want to communicate via mail, let's put it on public display.

    I was banned for the same reason, but on the other hand .. When I spoke out unhappily about Putin .. For this reason, I do not agree with you that Vadim Smirnov bans those who are against Grudinin, as well as those who are against Putin. I was also outraged, because I think that the ban was given for nothing .. but the site is not mine and there is nothing to be done about these ..))
    And if on the topic of the article, then the author is right in everything, I would still add a bunch of everything ..

    yes good
  50. Radikal
    Radikal 28 February 2018 14: 17
    +4
    Quote: PVL176
    The article absolutely accurately reflects reality. God forbid to be on the path of the untouchables, if he himself is not like that. Wipe into powder. The most ridiculous and sad thing is that only one aspect of our realities is so detailed and scary. You can take a list on each topic to write a devastating article with sad facts: stratification of society, industry, science, education, medicine, pensions, salaries. And most importantly, there is no clearance or even hope for a change for the better. As the author said "another 6 years of stability" ......

    yes good