Kadyrov and Yevkurov took part in rallies on the anniversary of the deportation of Chechens and Ingush

In the Republic of Ingushetia, a rally of many thousands was held, which was devoted to the next (74) anniversary of the deportation of the Ingush people. Similar rallies are held in the cities of Chechnya. The Ingush meeting was held at the Nine Towers memorial complex. The action was attended by representatives of the republic’s leadership, including its head Yunus-Bek Yevkurov.

Interfax cites Yevkurov’s statement at the rally:

At a time when thousands of Ingush fought on the fronts of World War II, showing examples of courage, giving their lives for the sake of Victory, our people were deported to Kazakhstan and Central Asia. Even those who fought heroically against the enemy were subjected to repression. Thirteen long years of being in a foreign land in conditions of hunger, cold and not broke the spirit of the people. Huge faith, indestructible hope of returning to their homes, gave people the strength to stand.

Yunus-Bek Yevkurov:

Today we must remember this and must do our utmost so that our people will never again experience the horrors of repression. To live in peace and harmony as a single multinational family, together to resist any adversity, to be each other's support is the key to the prosperity of our Ingushetia and all of Russia.

In Ingushetia, according to the latest data, about 9 thousand people came to the rally.

Events in memory of the deportation took place in the mosques of the republic.

A statement by the head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, is given by the portal "Chechnya today":

23 February 1944, Stalin did it. We were deprived of everything - our native land, our homes, which had been acquired for centuries, driven into cattle cars, taken and thrown into the Altai mountains, Kazakhstan steppes, driven into lead-zinc and uranium mines. Half of the population died of hunger, cold and epidemics. In the fact that the second half survived there is no merit of the Stalinist power. We survived thanks to true faith, strong will, courage, devotion to our native land and native mountains. The people are a warrior, the people are a hard worker, the people are a patriot called "the enemy of the people" (...) The Russian leadership has repeatedly recognized the repression against the Chechen people as the gravest crime, it brought an apology. Together with all the nations we are building a new Russia! We ask Allah that He will forever save us from new upheavals, tragedies and adversities, we ask for sending peace and stability to all of Russia.

During the years of the Great Patriotic War, Chechnya and Ingushetia were expelled to Central Asia and regions of Siberia, according to one data, about 300 thousand people, according to others - up to half a million. The reasons for this decision of the authorities were called the massive case of desertion and complicity of the Hitler army.

Comments

[Logall]

Eh, Great Stalin, Where are you now? How come they came back ...? There is no one to put them in their place!

[Reserve officer]

If the current leadership of Chechnya and Ingushetia speaks on behalf of the peoples, it is necessary to answer for the whole people. For everything that Chechens and Ingush during the Great Patriotic War did. Just white and fluffy, just like that they were taken evicted.
Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the USSR of 7 March 1944 on the liquidation of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic:
“Due to the fact that during the Patriotic War, especially during the actions of Nazi forces in the Caucasus, many Chechens and Ingush changed their homeland, went over to the side of the fascist invaders, joined the squads of saboteurs and scouts thrown by the Germans to the rear of the Red Army, created armed gangs at the direction of the Germans to fight against Soviet power, and also considering that many Chechens and Ingush for several years participated in armed demonstrations against the Soviet power and for a long time, the teachings are not engaged in honest work, commit gang raids on collective farms of neighboring regions, rob and kill Soviet people, - the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR decides:
1. All Chechens and Ingush living in the territory of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, as well as in the regions adjacent to it, should be relocated to other regions of the USSR, and the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic should be liquidated.
2. The USSR Council of People's Commissars should endow the Chechens and Ingushs in new places of settlement with land and provide them with the necessary state assistance in economic matters. ”
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[210ox]

For all admirers of the “peacekeeper” Kadyrov ... This abrek will still put a knife in our backs. It is a pity that they lick him in the Kremlin.

[Vadim237]

Planting, planting is a matter of time.

[flicker]

Planting, planting is a matter of time.

Question to whom?
"The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, said he was ready to step down and devote the rest of his life to protecting the Al-Aqsa mosque on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem."
Protect from whom?

[AnpeL]

saved us from new upheavals, tragedies and adversities

so you do not dirty up more - then more tragedies may not happen. Of course, all this is doubtful, at the expense of your behavior

[Yeraz]

Quote: 210ox

For all admirers of the "peacekeeper" Kadyrov ..

Well, actually Kadyrov tried to conditionally hush up this mourning day. Before that, the Chechen authorities decided to postpone the date to May 10, the day of Akhmad Kadyrov’s funeral, even more Cultivating the personality of the First President. Chechens are not original here, copy everything from Azerbaijan. There too there is a holiday of FLOWERS and the joke itself is also May 10)))) But this is Heydar Aliyev’s birthday)) And on paper we are supposedly celebrating Flower Day, but in fact the birthday of the deceased president.
But the Chechens did not fail and everyone mourns on February 23, and not on May 10.

[Falcond]

No matter how much the wolf feeds, it’s not enough for him!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: 210ox

This abrek still puts a knife in our backs. It is a pity that they lick him in the Kremlin.

he already had enough wars with Russia to understand that dealing with “knives in the back” is dangerous + everything will go “independent” to Chechnya nowhere !!!!

[RUSS]

Quote: 210ox

For all admirers of the “peacekeeper” Kadyrov ... This abrek will still put a knife in our backs. It is a pity that they lick him in the Kremlin.

Putin, unlike Stalin, did not apply reprisals to Chechens to the ambassador of two military companies of the 90s, 2000s, but on the contrary showed all support to Chechnya, the Chechens reciprocated, and now they are ready to defend Russia and the president with a mountain.
Almost themselves completely eliminated terrorism, as well as a republic with one of the lowest in terms of crime and corruption.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: RUSS

Almost themselves completely eliminated terrorism, as well as a republic with one of the lowest in terms of crime and corruption.

Did Ramzan tell you this? At home, committing persecution is dumb, and why. There is Russia for this.

[Basil50]

Yeah. And the Democrats and other * human rights activists * obeyed the Chechens and Ingush. But who will apologize to those whom the Chechens and Ingushs killed and robbed in 1941-1944? Which of the human rights defenders remembered this?
In the nineties, the genocide of RUSSIAN people in the North Caucasus repeated. And again they apologized and paid, forgetting about RUSSIAN which these * proud and independent * were killing. By the way, why did the desire to possess slaves turn out to be * irresistible among these * proud *, so much so that they seized and traded anyone they managed to capture. A lot of Chechens also turned into slaves.

[potterz]

And who is to blame for this, are we not ourselves! I know some couch fighters. Spit, and drown! ......... There is no point in saying further ..........

[Svarog]

Quote: Reserve officer

Due to the fact that during the Patriotic War, especially during the actions of Nazi troops in the Caucasus, many Chechens and Ingush changed their homeland, went over to the side of the fascist invaders, and joined squads of saboteurs and scouts

And today it will be the same, they’ll stop pouring money into Chechnya and will start again ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Stock Officer

If the current leadership of Chechnya and Ingushetia speaks on behalf of the peoples, it is necessary to answer for the whole people. For everything that Chechens and Ingush during the Great Patriotic War did.

Are these the same traitors?

 Khanpasha Nuradilovich Nuradilov. The hero of the USSR. Member of the Battle of Stalingrad. He destroyed more than 900 German soldiers with a machine gun, destroyed 7 machine-gun crews, took 14 opponents prisoner. By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of April 17, 1943, Nuradilov was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.

Idrisov Abukhaji (Abukhazhi). By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of June 3, 1944, Senior Sergeant Idrisov Abukhadzhi was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union with the award of the Order of Lenin and the Gold Star medal (No. 4739) for exemplary performance of command assignments and displayed courage and heroism in battles with the Nazi invaders. ...

Beibulatov Irbaykhan Adelkhanovich. Commanding a rifle battalion, in the battles for the city of Melitopol, I. Beibulatov showed an outstanding ability as a tactician in difficult conditions of street fighting. The battalion under his command repelled 19 enemy counterattacks and destroyed 7 tanks and more than 1000 Nazis. Irbaikhan Beybulatov himself destroyed one tank and 18 enemy soldiers. In this battle, his brothers Magomed, Mahmud and Beysolt fought with him. By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of November 1, 1943, Irbaykhan Beybulatov was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union

 Magomed-Mirzoev. For courage and heroism, by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of January 15, 1944, he was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.

 Dachiev Hansultan Chapaevich. Junior lieutenant of the Soviet Army, participant of the Great Patriotic War, Hero of the Soviet Union (1944). By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of January 15, 1944 for the "exemplary performance of the combat mission of the command in the fight against the German invaders and the courage and heroism shown at the same time" the Red Army soldier Khansultan Dachiev was awarded the high title of Hero of the Soviet Union with the award of the Order of Lenin and the Gold Star medal "Number 3201.

Visaitov Mavlid (Movladi) Aleroevich. Commander of the 28th Guards Cavalry Regiment (6th Guards Cavalry Division, 2nd Belorussian Front), Guard Lieutenant Colonel. Hero of the Soviet Union (1986).

[antivirus]

and there were such people, but there was NO unity with Vologda and Penza Vanka.
there is a chance now to create and consolidate it

[sabakina]

Aron. don't talk about that. what do not you understand.

[kirillovleva]

Hero units do not overshadow the mass betrayal of the Chechen-Ingush population during the Second World War. Fascists on the territory of the Checheno-Soviet Socialist Republic during the Second World War walked in uniform, not afraid of anyone or embarrassed. Up to 90% of those drafted into the ranks of the SA either deserted or went over to the side of the enemy, an even larger part scattered before arriving at mobilization sites.
"The first charge to be brought against Chechens and Ingush is mass desertion. This is what was said about this in a memorandum addressed to the People’s Commissar of Internal Affairs Lavrenty Beria" On the situation in the regions of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, "compiled by the deputy commissar of state security, the commissioner of state security 2 rank Bogdan Kobulov according to the results of his trip to Chechen-Ingushetia in October 1943 and dated November 9, 1943:

“The attitude of the Chechens and Ingush to the Soviet regime was clearly expressed in desertion and draft evasion in the Red Army.

At the first mobilization in August 1941, from 8000 people to be drafted, 719 people deserted.

In October 1941 of 4733, the 362 man evaded the draft.

In January 1942, when manning the national division, only 50 percent of the personnel were recruited.

In March 1942, from 14576 people deserted and evaded the 13560 service, people who went into illegal situations, went to the mountains and joined the gangs.

In 1943, out of 3000 volunteers, the number of deserters amounted to 1870 people ”[3].


In total, during the three years of the war, 49 Chechens and Ingush deserted from the ranks of the Red Army, another 362 courageous sons of the mountains declined to draft, which totals 13 people [389].

And how many Chechens and Ingush fought at the front? Defenders of "repressed peoples" compose various fables on this subject. For example, the doctor of historical sciences Hadji Murad Ibrahimbeyli states: “More than 30 thousand Chechens and Ingush fought on the fronts. In the first weeks of the war, more than 12 thousand communists and Komsomol members - Chechens and Ingush, went to the army, most of whom died in battle ”[5].

Reality looks much more modest. Being in the ranks of the Red Army, 2,3 thousand Chechens and Ingushs died and went missing [6]. Is it a lot or a little? The Buryat people, two times smaller in number, which the German occupation did not threaten in any way, lost 13 thousand people at the front, 10,7 thousand were inferior to Chechens and Ingush Ossetians one and a half times [7].

According to March 1949, among the special settlers there were 4248 Chechens and 946 Ingush who had previously served in the Red Army [8]. Contrary to popular belief, a number of Chechens and Ingush for military merits were exempted from being sent to the settlement. As a result, we get that in the ranks of the Red Army there were no more than 10 thousand Chechens and Ingush, while more than 60 thousand of their relatives evaded mobilization or deserted. "

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: kirillovleva

mass betrayal of the Chechen-Ingush population during the Second World War.

and then the Crimean Tatars with what such honor disappeared from this list ???? By the way, in the ranks of Vlasov there served more than a hundred thousand !!!

[LegionChik K]

Where does such information and numbers come from?

[Nikolai Grek]

what information and what numbers ???

[Spec]

and not a single Jew in your list. Strange ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Stock Officer

If the current leadership of Chechnya and Ingushetia speaks on behalf of the peoples, it is necessary to answer for the whole people. For everything that Chechens and Ingush during the Great Patriotic War did.

Are these the same traitors?

 Khanpasha Nuradilovich Nuradilov. The hero of the USSR. Member of the Battle of Stalingrad. He destroyed more than 900 German soldiers with a machine gun, destroyed 7 machine-gun crews, took 14 opponents prisoner. By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of April 17, 1943, Nuradilov was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.

Idrisov Abukhaji (Abukhazhi). By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of June 3, 1944, Senior Sergeant Idrisov Abukhadzhi was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union with the award of the Order of Lenin and the Gold Star medal (No. 4739) for exemplary performance of command assignments and displayed courage and heroism in battles with the Nazi invaders. ...

Beibulatov Irbaykhan Adelkhanovich. Commanding a rifle battalion, in the battles for the city of Melitopol, I. Beibulatov showed an outstanding ability as a tactician in difficult conditions of street fighting. The battalion under his command repelled 19 enemy counterattacks and destroyed 7 tanks and more than 1000 Nazis. Irbaikhan Beybulatov himself destroyed one tank and 18 enemy soldiers. In this battle, his brothers Magomed, Mahmud and Beysolt fought with him. By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of November 1, 1943, Irbaykhan Beybulatov was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union

 Magomed-Mirzoev. For courage and heroism, by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of January 15, 1944, he was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.

 Dachiev Hansultan Chapaevich. Junior lieutenant of the Soviet Army, participant of the Great Patriotic War, Hero of the Soviet Union (1944). By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of January 15, 1944 for the "exemplary performance of the combat mission of the command in the fight against the German invaders and the courage and heroism shown at the same time" the Red Army soldier Khansultan Dachiev was awarded the high title of Hero of the Soviet Union with the award of the Order of Lenin and the Gold Star medal "Number 3201.

Visaitov Mavlid (Movladi) Aleroevich. Commander of the 28th Guards Cavalry Regiment (6th Guards Cavalry Division, 2nd Belorussian Front), Guard Lieutenant Colonel. Hero of the Soviet Union (1986).

Aron, there is such a thing - an exception to the rule. This is just the case.

[antivirus]

If the current leadership of Chechnya and Ingushetia speaks on behalf of the peoples, it is necessary to answer for the whole people. For everything that Chechens and Ingush during the Great Patriotic War did. Just white and fluffy, just like that they were taken evicted.

enough to ensure the unity of conscripts (including when washing glasses and bedrooms) in the army and work on construction sites of capitalism

[Kent0001]

Yes, they prepared a white horse of pure blood for Hitler as a present. Just many were traitors like the Crimean Tatars, but many fought on the fronts. And to say that Stalin acted unfairly and wrongly, and this must be understood. The survival war is not for you to hold rallies. And the book is "A Golden Cloud Spent the Night" I advise everyone to read it, I read it during the Union ... there was a revelation.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kent0001

Yes, they prepared a white horse of pure blood for Hitler as a present. Just many were traitors like the Crimean Tatars, but many fought on the fronts. And to say that Stalin acted unfairly and wrongly, and this must be understood. The survival war is not for you to hold rallies. And the book is "A Golden Cloud Spent the Night" I advise everyone to read it, I read it during the Union ... there was a revelation.

We know, sir, read. Pristavkin held his nose in the wind, sensed in what vein to write. For some reason, I didn’t even mention anything about the mass crimes of the Chechens. And they turned out to be so poor and unhappy, offended by the vampire Stalin. You have less faith in such scribblers. In the Red Army, there were units of% of eligible for draft. And when they were evicted, they were generally freed from draft in the army. Stalin saved their lives at the expense of the lives of the other peoples of the USSR.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Stock Officer

If the current leadership of Chechnya and Ingushetia speaks on behalf of the peoples, it is necessary to answer for the whole people. For everything that Chechens and Ingush during the Great Patriotic War did. Just white and fluffy, just like that they were taken evicted.
Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the USSR of 7 March 1944 on the liquidation of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic:
“Due to the fact that during the Patriotic War, especially during the actions of Nazi forces in the Caucasus, many Chechens and Ingush changed their homeland, went over to the side of the fascist invaders, joined the squads of saboteurs and scouts thrown by the Germans to the rear of the Red Army, created armed gangs at the direction of the Germans to fight against Soviet power, and also considering that many Chechens and Ingush for several years participated in armed demonstrations against the Soviet power and for a long time, the teachings are not engaged in honest work, commit gang raids on collective farms of neighboring regions, rob and kill Soviet people, - the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR decides:
1. All Chechens and Ingush living in the territory of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, as well as in the regions adjacent to it, should be relocated to other regions of the USSR, and the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic should be liquidated.
2. The USSR Council of People's Commissars should endow the Chechens and Ingushs in new places of settlement with land and provide them with the necessary state assistance in economic matters. ”
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Can I put my modest plus? Cho deserved it, they got it ... It's just that some kind of fashion has gone - a different trifle - GENOCIDE !!!! It’s a beautiful word ... And Ramzan ... Now the eagle, “Putin’s president” and so on ... But he forgot who his dad was in the first and second Chechen? He forgot how Russian women put cancer and metal knives in them? And he laughed when he "fell into the hole" ... I have not forgotten ...
Papa Kadyrov - The cunning Red Fox - in time realized where the money would come from. Ramzan continues his work ....

I’m not a “Chechen”, I’m Afghanistan and a dozen more countries ... But what I said - any kid - “Chechen” will sign ... Not from the ceiling and not from the couch I say - my students fought in Chechnya.

[Skif83]

They do not understand that they should pray for Stalin! Although, Evkurov is not so categorical, because he was born and studied, and even served in the USSR.
When other peoples died on the fronts, Chechens, Ingush, Crimean Tatars, they were Meskhetian Turks, were deported, that is, in fact, hidden from the war! In order to understand this fact, it is enough to look at the casualties in the Second World War.
And the fact that these peoples, not separate representatives, namely the peoples for the most part were loyal to Hitler, is a FACT! There are documents, and not only ours ...
Stalin acted superhumanly! Somewhere in the USA, in a similar situation, they would have been cut to the root!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Reserve officer

and you need to answer for the whole nation. For everything that Chechens and Ingush during the Great Patriotic War did. Just white and fluffy, just so they took evicted.

that was Stalin’s mistake, it wasn’t necessary to expel but to shoot all those guilty, maybe some nations disappeared completely, but there wouldn’t be any disputes

[RUSS]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Reserve officer

and you need to answer for the whole nation. For everything that Chechens and Ingush during the Great Patriotic War did. Just white and fluffy, just so they took evicted.

that was Stalin’s mistake, it wasn’t necessary to expel but to shoot all those guilty, maybe some nations disappeared completely, but there wouldn’t be any disputes

One already “activist” historian agreed that they had to openly apologize to the Chechens and Ingush for justifying the repressions.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

uh, and I suggested repressing the people ?!
do not tell me when?
I proposed to shoot traitors and accomplices of the Nazis, regardless of nationalities

[Megatron]

Crimean Tatars are of the same berry field.

[Vadim237]

Well, the Crimean Tatars at least did not kill our servicemen and did not carry out terrorist attacks.

[Reserve officer]

Quote: Vadim237

Well, the Crimean Tatars at least did not kill our servicemen and did not carry out terrorist attacks.

If. It was almost the same.
GKO Decree No. 5859-ss
from 11 on May 1944, Moscow, Kremlin
“During the Patriotic War, many Crimean Tatars betrayed their homeland, deserted from the units of the Red Army defending the Crimea, and switched sides to the enemy, joined volunteer Tatar military units formed by the Germans fighting against the Red Army; during the occupation of Crimea by Nazi troops, participating in German punitive detachments, the Crimean Tatars were especially distinguished by their atrocities against Soviet partisans, and also helped the German occupiers in organizing the forcible theft of Soviet citizens into German slavery and the mass extermination of Soviet people.
Crimean Tatars actively collaborated with the German occupation authorities, participating in the so-called "Tatar national committees" organized by German intelligence, and were widely used by the Germans for the purpose of throwing spies and saboteurs into the rear of the Red Army.
In view of the foregoing, the State Defense Committee DECIDES:
- To evict all Tatars from the territory of Crimea and settle them for permanent residence as special settlers in the regions of the Uzbek SSR. Put eviction on the NKVD of the USSR. To oblige the NKVD of the USSR (t. Beria) to complete the eviction of the Crimean Tatars by 1 on June 1944. ”

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

Crimean Tatars at least did not kill our troops

Are you serious? The partisan movement in Crimea was liquidated by the Germans because of the Crimean Tatar punitive battalions. There was a concentration camp in the suburbs of Simferopol, whose protection was Crimean Tatar.

[Vadim237]

I wrote about modernity, and not about the Great Patriotic War.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

I wrote about modernity

when the Maidan began in Kiev in the year 14, the Crimean Tatar activists created their own units and prepared for a power seizure of power. The house of my friend, where the veteran of the Great Patriotic War lived, was marked, as were the houses of all pro-Russian activists. After the transition of Crimea to Russia, the Crimean Tatar settlements were cleared. There is such a neighborhood "Sputnik" near Evpatoria. According to a friend of the Russian security forces, after cordon off with armored personnel carriers and podomovy searches, 2 small arms vehicles were taken out.
The intentions of the Crimean Tatars to seize power in Crimea by force can be found on YouTube.
if the Tatars broke into the Supreme Council of Crimea, then the issue of the annexation of Crimea to Russia was accompanied by blood or would have been impossible at all.
This is no exaggeration.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

I'm talking about modernity

and this is now, Crimea, Bakhchisaray

The drivers of the Crimean Tatars worked on my official car. They were loyal, curious, but once told about their attitude towards the Russians. They understand ONLY FORCE!

[Don]

Hmm, such "atrocities" committed such atrocities that hair stood on end. At the same time, the rest of the multinational people of the USSR was bleeding in the fight against the Nazis. Did the then leadership of the country have the right after such a massive betrayal to evict them from their native lands? From a human point of view - doubtful, from the state - definitely had the right.

[twviewer]

What was the time, such and solutions. Here's an example: In 1944, the US Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of internment, arguing that restricting the civil rights of a racial group is permissible if it is “necessitated by public necessity”. In January 1945, eviction laws were repealed.
Read what happened to the Japanese, Germans and Italians in the USA during WWII

[Xnumx vis]

We didn’t have time ... But they went around the Crimea with protruding lips! The owners of life .. Now they have picked up a lip, they pulled in a tummy, their heads bowed. Hidden ..

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Vadim237

Well, the Crimean Tatars at least did not kill our servicemen and did not carry out terrorist attacks.

interesting approach but not at all that Kadyrov was discussing the “period” in which the Crimean Tatars had very much distinguished themselves ... moreover, in the negative direction !!!

[Skif83]

Yah!? And this is then:

... TFor example, in the Sudak region in 1942, a group of self-defense Tatars eliminated the reconnaissance landing of the Red Army, while 12 Soviet paratroopers were captured and burned alive. On February 4, 1943, Crimean Tatar volunteers from the villages of Beshui and Koush captured four partisans from the detachment of S. A. Mukovnin. Partisans L.S. Chernov, V.F. Gordienko, G.K. Sannikov and Kh.K. Kiyamov were brutally murdered: they were punctured with bayonets, laid on fires and burned. The corpse of Kazan Tatar Kh.K. Kiyamov turned out to be especially disfigured, which the punishers apparently mistook for their fellow countryman. Crimean Tatar detachments dealt with the civilian population just as brutally. As noted in the special communication of L.P. Beria in the GKO in the name of I.V. Stalin, V.M. Molotov and G.M. Malenkov No. 366 / b dated April 25, 1944: “Local residents claim that they were subjected to more persecution from the Tatars, than from the Romanian invaders. ”[i] [/ i]

You read the documents.
Stalin did NOT DO ANYTHING JUST SO!
All the rubbish that they write now about the horrors of the Stalinist regime is in the trash.
How much shit was poured on the penal battalions, but it turned out that everything was completely wrong, there were practically no criminals in the penal battalions! These were units for the fined junior command staff.
Right now, people are being driven into a mortgage, but why do the authorities keep silent about the Stalinist post-war mortgage of 1,5%?
Why is it not said, for example, that in the length of service the army was also taken into account during the war? A person who has reached the age of 60, has quit the army, with all due payments, by the way, despite the difficult situation ...
Pensions, benefits and salaries, despite the war, were paid on time ...
A lot of rubbish was hinted at the history of the USSR, but time is sweeping away this rubbish, the truth is exposed, TOTALLY ANOTHER TRUTH!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Vadim237

Well, the Crimean Tatars at least did not kill our servicemen and did not carry out terrorist attacks.

What period are you talking about, in the Great Patriotic War they were still killing

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vadim237

Well, the Crimean Tatars at least did not kill our servicemen and did not carry out terrorist attacks.

You are mistaken. The partisan movement in Crimea was destroyed precisely by the Tatars.

[New Year day]

Information from the German High Command:

“On January 3, 1942, under his chairmanship (Olendorf), the first official solemn meeting of the Tatar Committee in Simferopol took place on the occasion of the beginning of recruitment. He welcomed the committee and said that the Fuhrer accepted the Tatars' offer to come out with arms in defense of their homeland from the Bolsheviks. Tatars "ready to take up arms, will be enrolled in the German Wehrmacht, will be provided to all and receive a salary on a par with German soldiers."

In response, the chairman of the Tatar Committee said the following: “I speak on behalf of the committee and on behalf of all the Tatars, being sure that I express their thoughts. One call of the German army and the Tatars is enough to all come out to fight against a common enemy. It is a great honor for us to have the opportunity to fight under the leadership of the Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, the greatest son of the German people. The faith in us gives us strength so that we trust the leadership of the German army without hesitation. “Our names will later be honored along with the names of those who advocated the liberation of the oppressed peoples.”

After the approval of the general events, the Tatars asked permission to end this first solemn meeting - the beginning of the struggle against the atheists - according to their custom, prayer, and repeated the following three prayers after their mullahs:

1-I prayer: for achieving quick victory and a common goal, as well as for the health and long years of the Fuhrer Adolf Hitler.

2-I prayer: for the German people and its valiant army.

3-I prayer: for the soldiers of the German Wehrmacht who died in the battles.
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The state security organs of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War. T.3. Book 1. The collapse of the Blitzkrieg. S.598-599.

[Black_Vatnik]

What did you want? Our political mainstream is directed in this direction. If through all channels the hysterical Zhirinovsky shouts that Stalin was a criminal, and all communism is criminal, it is natural that people from the periphery will be driven in this direction. Putin was personally present at the opening of the so-called Wall of Sorrow. Kadyrov would sit in silence if “convicting the scoop” were not a national occupation.

[RUSS]

Quote: Logall

Eh, Great Stalin, Where are you now? How come they came back ...? There is no one to put them in their place!

Direct Speech with Putin 2015
"With all the ugliness of the Stalinist regime, with all the repressions, even with all the exiles of entire nations, the Stalin regime never set itself the goal of destroying peoples, and the attempt to put one and the other on the same level has absolutely no basis."

[Black_Vatnik]

I’ll translate Putin into a simple language: “Do you understand the citizens, I can’t flood Stalin’s jaundice, for leftist views prevail among ordinary Russians, but I can’t even mention the“ ugliness, repression and exile of entire peoples ”, because it’s not ideology that is headed nation, and capital. "

[flicker]

I hope you do not work as a translator.

Quote: Black_Jacket

I will translate Putin into a simple language: ...

do not ascribe to the regime of Stalin what he did not.

[RUSS]

Quote: Black_Jacket

I’ll translate Putin into a simple language: “Do you understand the citizens, I can’t flood Stalin’s jaundice, for leftist views prevail among ordinary Russians, but I can’t even mention the“ ugliness, repression and exile of entire peoples ”, because it’s not ideology that is headed nation, and capital. "

Putin is not an admirer of Stalin, but he does not make a demon out of him either.

[210ox]

These words fully characterize our power. Liars!

Quote: RUSS

Quote: Logall

Eh, Great Stalin, Where are you now? How come they came back ...? There is no one to put them in their place!

Direct Speech with Putin 2015
"With all the ugliness of the Stalinist regime, with all the repressions, even with all the exiles of entire nations, the Stalin regime never set itself the goal of destroying peoples, and the attempt to put one and the other on the same level has absolutely no basis."

[RUSS]

Quote: 210ox

These words fully characterize our power. Liars!

And your power of the Reds was distinguished by truthfulness and justice?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: RUSS

Quote: 210ox

These words fully characterize our power. Liars!

And your power of the Reds was distinguished by truthfulness and justice?

Do you want to say that under the rule of “red” justice there was less than now?
There is no ideal power. But justice under the Soviet regime was much more than now.

[siberalt]

Well, if Kadyrov himself asked Allah, then everything will be calm.

[ul_vitalii]

Some at one time grazed sheep, others came down from the mountains and robbed them, as a result, radish horseradish is not sweeter, they stand each other.

[Turk_az]

while others did not bathe at one time, washed in one barrel, who would wash their feet, who would face, and who would completely spit, and so whole villages ... there were still men from the whole settlement and villages massively killed, and women divided and taken as a wife, in order to increase the birth rate ... and it happened while some were in slavery, who sold their own and bought them like cattle in the 19th century, grazing sheep and descending from the mountains lived free and proud ... by the way, and so far they have been living like that , for deductions from these territories are several times less than deductions for these entities

[Vadim237]

The "Caucasian Rift" will still make itself felt in the future - in the 41st they helped the Nazis, from the 94th they helped free Ichkeria and helped the Wahhabis.

[Black_Vatnik]

Evkurov in 94m was a Russian officer, he remains today. It is impossible to draw an equal sign between him and Kadyrov.

[210ox]

I won’t say anything bad about Officer Yevkurov. But when a combat officer begins to engage in politics .. This is usually crap and climbs out .. Pilot Dudaev also served well sometime ..

Quote: Black_Jacket

Evkurov in 94m was a Russian officer, he remains today. It is impossible to draw an equal sign between him and Kadyrov.

[Black_Vatnik]

So far, Yevkurov at the political post behaves, as it were, to put it mildly, much more prudently and restrained than Kadyrov. And, by the way, for this very prudence he does not enjoy such popularity among Ingush youth as Kadyrov enjoys among Chechen ones.

[210ox]

Yes, and in the Kremlin it seems ... Does not use. Although how do we know?

Quote: Black_Jacket

So far, Yevkurov at the political post behaves, as it were, to put it mildly, much more prudently and restrained than Kadyrov. And, by the way, for this very prudence he does not enjoy such popularity among Ingush youth as Kadyrov enjoys among Chechen ones.

[Black_Vatnik]

Who exactly does not use in the Kremlin?

[210ox]

I'm talking about Evkurov.

Quote: Black_Jacket

Who exactly does not use in the Kremlin?

[Black_Vatnik]

It’s just that he calmly deals with his business, does not stick his nose everywhere, as Kadyrov does.

[RUSS]

Quote: Black_Jacket

It’s just that he calmly deals with his business, does not stick his nose everywhere, as Kadyrov does.

A center has been opened in Chechnya to train special forces, as part of the MTR forces there are Chechens who are now involved in Syria.
Also in Syria, military police from Chechnya have proven themselves very well.

[Black_Vatnik]

AND? What is this talking about?

[RUSS]

Quote: Black_Jacket

AND? What is this talking about?

Just turn on the brain and everything will become clear.

[flicker]

Pilot Dudaev also once served well.

Not a bad word, he was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union. Then there was a very dark story, everything should have been different and there should not have been any war between Russia and Chechnya, but everything went wrong, and then it was not the characters who controlled the process, but the characters.

[forester]

That's it, remember that living in Russia, you can not spoil Russia, otherwise grab it at the most want !!! But the apologies of the leadership - a mistake - Stalin, being a Caucasian, knew what he was doing. I think so.

[Uncle lee]

There is no punishment without guilt! This is about the past. And if you stop pouring money on Chechnya now, in a moment the Hero of Russia will become an implacable enemy!

[Under the dome]

more than a billion a day Russia pays this terrorist for peace of mind

[forester]

Where does infa come from?

[Under the dome]

https://m.lenta.ru/news/2016/03/11/360bln/

[forester]

Only a clinical fool can trust such a liberalistic cesspool as this resource

[Under the dome]

Trust then the first program. In Syria, no one died and no troops.

[forester]

Quote: Under the dome

Trust then the first program. In Syria, no one died and no troops.

Well, definitely sick, and even under the dome))), or maybe under the saucepan, huh?

[Spec]

Butterfly on the lower back of the disease is not in size)))

[Vadim237]

Well, it’s far from a secret that some of his personnel are former militants — and he himself began with Maskhadov, Basaev, Dudaev, and other dishes. - This time was 93 - 99 as much as vile to remember. A tiger is always striped.

[serg999]

Give me a reference to what you haven’t lost ...

[vovanpain]

Quote: Under the dome

more than a billion a day Russia pays this terrorist for peace of mind

A miracle in feathers, at such a pace, Russia would have long gone bankrupt, had the miracle been replaced by a manual.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: vovanpain

, change a manual to a miracle.

He does not have training manuals. Where he sees (reads), then reproduces. The big child Rabinovich returned. Oh, have some fun ...

[vovanpain]

Quote: Paranoid50

Rabinovich returned. Oh, have some fun.

Yes, I don’t understand either Rabinovich, most likely, or IMH returned, or another miracle in feathers. But I’m always ready to have fun. Exactly Rabinovich, Laughter prolongs life, there will be fun.

Quote: Under the dome

So didn’t go broke?

With your help

[Under the dome]

So didn’t go broke?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Under the dome

Under the dome

circus ... ... But in general it’s not worth looking at someone else’s money! Look into the pockets of others. Tell your distinguished audience. Please. About your billions of dollars spent on "peaceful Palestinian Arabs."

[Andrey K]

Quote: Under the dome

more than a billion a day Russia pays this terrorist for peace of mind

Yes, at least two ...
What is your sorrow?
It’s not worth counting in someone else’s pockets

[Herculesic]

Under the dome, adjust the under the leaked dome! Only in the direction of Russia to spit! Where do you come from, on our head !!!

[ul_vitalii]

Officer daughter, graduate.

[flicker]

Officer daughter, graduate

No, this is the nephew of the rabbi.

[Spec]

Well that took the money. Whose saying is that? Answer, full of holes ...

[Esoteric]

Here - what a misfortune! Deported to Altai ... Yes, we live here without deportation for centuries, we don’t attack anyone ... And they were deported illegally ... Yeah ... Who does not remember the feat of 28 heroes - *** Ents near Moscow ... And now the whole country rests only on their economy. Just sitting on his neck and legs dangled. You must be more modest, more modest. Do not open your mouth wide, for there are still many places in Altai ...
A simple question: whose warriors captured hospitals and theaters with civilians? Such a manifestation of courage and courage. For this it is necessary to give the hero ...

[silverwolf88]

We took part and took ...
The wartime deportations were not carried out from scratch ... there were more than enough reasons ...
Evkurov’s act surprised ... did a person give a certain part of the life of the RF Armed Forces? The USSR and, in principle, I think he knows what was happening and why ... maybe he simply reflected the will of the majority as a leader ...
A false misrepresentation of the events of the Stalin era and great victories is actually an attempt to ruin Russia ... sow discord ... raise doubts and blame ... COMRADES BE VIGILANT ... DEATH TO SPIES ...

[flicker]

Evkurov’s act surprised ... after all, a man gave a certain part of the life of the RF Armed Forces

And what should he run ahead of the engine? In our country, what assessment does these events give?
This question is not very simple, we must calmly deal with it. Whatever the objectivity, but for the Vainakh people this is a tragic event - accordingly, a reaction. It is necessary to sort it out calmly, first of all, for the future of our state and all peoples living in it.

[Strashila]

"when thousands of Ingush fought on the fronts of World War II, showing examples of courage, giving their lives for the Victory," ... then tens of thousands crap in the rear.

[Under the dome]

How many Islamic beasts do not feed, it will still remain a beast.

[Russia]

Here is numb to the wretched, scat from the site!

[forester]

Through the squatted God-killer, and remember once and for all - Russia is a multinational and multi-religious country, and it has always been so and that’s why it is strong !!! And people like you need to be destroyed as a genotype, so that strife does not sow.

[forty-eighth]

Quote: forester

And people like you need to be destroyed as a genotype, so that strife does not sow.

You keep your Nazi speeches better with you.

[Herculesic]

And weakly Kadyrov for his people, for atrocities, for the brutal murders of Russians to repent before Russia ???

[Vadim237]

And how it will be - he will become like this in the morning, “Damn, I can’t keep it in myself anymore, I have to repent” will go to the conference “Prospects and Ways of Development of the Caucasian Republics” and how she sings - “Yes, I admit that I killed Russians, He supported the terrorists - but then the brothers betrayed me and I realized that I did wrong. Forgive me Allah for the sake of "- at the end of the speech he will shed a tear and the procedure of repentance will end. The result - everyone will forgive him.

[Herculesic]

It doesn’t matter how, most importantly, in mosques, in the press and in the media, the same statement should be made on his behalf, where he, on behalf of the people and his name, asks Russia for everything that his lands have done since they became part of our country .

[Servisinzhener]

I doubt very much that after that your opinion about them will change.

[Vadim237]

About how, and it turns out to be peaceful Chechens, they began to seize the hostage buses - threatening to blow them up in 93 - 94 years. This is peaceful Dudayev — he threatened to seize and use nuclear weapons on the territory of Russia, as well as attacks on nuclear power plants and bombing cities, it is again peaceful Chechens who began mass knocking out and squeezing Russians out of the territory of Chechnya - there will be no apology for this, it was their a deliberate choice, they themselves created such a situation, and they raked it, for me - they raked a little.

[Morrow]

Conspirology

[Vadim237]

"Dudaev promised the bombing of cities, seriously? He was going to bomb on a cornfield, isn’t it yourself funny?" He then had 100 L 39 aircraft - which could be converted into bombers. Yes, the arsenal of ground forces was also impressive.

[Vadim237]

Yes, the Ukrainian government has its own truth - to instantly declare all residents of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions terrorists and start a pseudo anti-terrorist operation - but in fact, the goal itself will be realized as a Bandera-gangster rule and attract attention to itself, show the owners that their choice in relation to them right.

[NKT]

In Chechnya, they tried to restore order after five years, during which the central government turned a blind eye to the arbitrariness and atrocities in the republic. A nest of bandits and other scum from around the world was built in Chechnya. The entire Russian population of the republic became hostages. Russian died several times more, even scared to remember about it ...

[Herculesic]

Rokiii-you are strongly confused causation in places! That is, the Russians received billions for counterfeit azizos, for which they bought weapons to destroy the Russians? We secretly created weapons (mortars, greyhound-wolf assault rifles)? You have now come forward and acted unsuccessfully as the devil's advocate!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rokiii

but do you weakly repent to the Chechen people?

Weakly! And, nothing.
1989 - Russians in Chechnya - 25%, about 300 thousand, 2010 -2%, about 25 thousand.

Quote: Rokiii

your double standards and hypocrisy are simply amazing ...

[Morrow]

Innocent Chechens? Did you smoke?

[Separ]

Chechens have their own republic, Ingush, Tatars, Yakuts and others also have it. And where is the republic of the Russians? We seem to be everywhere and nowhere and we can be slaughtered, insulted by our women, taken our children hostage .. and do nothing while riding the Bentley at this time

[Spec]

Got it? What do you know about those Chechen puppies? were you there, saw how it was ?! Lessons go learn ...

[flicker]

And weakly Kadyrov for his people, for atrocities, for the brutal murders of the Russians

And how many lives in general (and Russian in particular) were saved thanks to the efforts of the same Kadyrov?
And his people are contributing to the fight against terrorism, including in Syria.

... repent to Russia ???

So he repeatedly said that he was ready to give his life, like his father, who, together with Putin, was able at first to stop the civil war in the territory of Chechnya, and then completely stop it, and now ensure peace in the North Caucasus.
Why are our enemies scolding Kadyrov so much? Yes, because he and his position do not allow to undermine the situation in Russia. And how many lives were saved thanks to this?

[Spec]

and this is also true

[Mountain shooter]

Take it easy. They no longer oppose themselves to Russia. And if they try to contrast ... Yes, they have already tried. Halved in number. They will try again and disappear altogether. Knowing these peoples, I visited there more than once, there were many acquaintances - you can only behave there ... The GDP has good advisers on the Caucasus. You will see, now Dagestan will be brought to a common denominator. And VERY QUICKLY.

[Korax71]

Dagestan will never be brought back. Over 60 nationalities, some of which are distinguished by both White and Black. How to please everyone? It will be so. In one village, a Russian warrior is a welcome guest of any house, and across the road in another village they will look at you on a piece of white meat.

[Morrow]

Fear works wonders

[RUSS]

I agree with Kadyrov!

[zombirusrev]

How do you agree with him? Explain expanded.

[RUSS]

Quote: zombirusrev

How do you agree with him? Explain expanded.

In relation to Stalin as a whole, and especially the fact that we must turn over those dark pages of history and build a new state together and do everything to prevent this from happening again.
Kadyrov, unlike the others, has an unambiguous assessment of Stalin, and not just like many other politicians, seeing how high Stalin’s ratings begin to “play” on this, such as Medinsky or, for example, diplomat Maria Zakharova, I remember how she said that she didn’t need to she puts likes to people who have Stalin on the avatar, when the Stalinists howled, so she later bashfully made excuses that she was misunderstood, and there are plenty of similar examples.

[Vadim237]

Your same fell under relocation?

[Merin]

Such a question: if Chechens and Ingush were exiled to Siberia because of ties with the enemy, then for example, do Ukrainians have the right to exile Crimeans in Galicia, for example, on the same principle?

[Chaos]

You don’t confuse horseradish with radish. Hitler wanted to completely destroy the peoples living on the territory of the USSR. The war was for survival. I forgot that the Nazis declared the Slavic peoples subhuman. And in this war of survival, tens of thousands of Caucasians sided with the enemy. Did not do Comrade correctly Stalin that evicted. It was necessary to cut down at the root.

[Merin]

You can talk only about the weather at the flock where you grew up

[Tersky]

Quote: Merin

if Chechens and Ingush were exiled to Siberia

To begin with, not to Siberia, but to Kazakhstan

Quote: Merin

Ukrainians the right to exile Crimeans in Galicia, for example

The country of 404 would need to at least exile Crimeans to have Crimea be part of Urkaina, and this is an unrealizable mri of bonfireheads.

[Merin]

History teaches, never say never.

[Zomanus]

Oh, maybe it’s worth remembering why they were relocated?
And at the same time talk about the same Crimean Tatars?
Yes, what they resettled, throwing at it the resources so necessary in the war,
it's just kapets as humane.
Otherwise, they would only read about Chechens and Tatars in books ...

[Merin]

When you say this, you must understand what exactly such an attitude can be applied to you. For example: Can Russians also be so or not? If Russians in Ukraine cooperate with enemies, can they be relocated or not?

[Chaos]

you are tupogolovy, Kiev was invited to make the Donbass Federation. And all were FOR, except Kiev. And there would be peace and there would be no slain. How many thousands of Ukrainians Kiev put in the war. Is it worth the human life of this crazy war unleashed by the idiots in Kiev.

[Russia]

Quote: Chaos

you are tupogolovy, Kiev was invited to make the Donbass Federation. And all were FOR, except Kiev. And there would be peace and there would be no slain. How many thousands of Ukrainians Kiev put in the war. Is it worth the human life of this crazy war unleashed by the idiots in Kiev.

He is not Merin, he is Pferd.

[Tersky]

Quote: Merin

Can Russians be like that or not?

Before you flood, at least open Wiki, you will find there how many Russians were resettled against their will.

[Merin]

What does it have to do with it? I ask, do the same laws apply to Russimi as to the rest or not?

[captain]

Quote: Zomanus

Oh, maybe it’s worth remembering why they were relocated?
And at the same time talk about the same Crimean Tatars?
Yes, what they resettled, throwing at it the resources so necessary in the war,
it's just kapets as humane.
Otherwise, they would only read about Chechens and Tatars in books ...

I read and wonder; why do people writing here believe that Koreans, Germans, Ingrian Finns, Karachais, Kalmyks, Chechens, Ingush, Balkars, Crimean Tatars and Meskhetian Turks are offended? It is the Russians who are not offended, they were expelled as fists, elders, participants in various anti-Bolshevik uprisings. They sent a lot more than these peoples, but they are not "offended", because they were enemies of the "Bolsheviks", which means enemies of the state. Seven peoples - Germans, Karachais, Kalmyks, Ingush, Chechens, Balkars and Crimean Tatars - lost their national autonomy and what should they enjoy? The Germans almost all left for Germany. And what should they enjoy now? But in World War I they fought for Russia and fought well ..
In one way or another, many other ethnic, ethno-confessional and social categories of Soviet citizens were deported to the USSR: Cossacks, “fists” of various nationalities, Poles, Azerbaijanis, Kurds, Chinese, RUSSIANs, Iranians, Iranian Jews, Ukrainians, Moldovans , Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Armenians, Kabardians, Hamshens, Dashnaks Armenians, Turks, Tajiks, etc.
Even under the kings, this was not the case as under the "popular" government.
Why were Karachais, Kalmyks, Ingush, Chechens, Balkars and Crimean Tatars evicted? For the "betrayal" of Soviet power. And what did they really want Soviet power? No, they did not want Soviet power. They did not like the persecution of faith, their customs, culture.
These peoples were not voluntarily included in Russia, therefore they were not drafted into the army under the autocracy (Kalmyks were ranked among the Cossacks by force). They got there only as volunteers and fought well according to contemporaries.
Why did they have to fight for the USSR on the basis of conscription? We did not call on the Germans, but why did they call them? What, someone did not understand that Muslims are more reverent towards faith than Christians? Why were women removing the burqa, trying to make a mockery of the mules? Well, not everyone cares about their history and their people. Chechens and Ingush saw what the Bolsheviks were doing with the Cossacks. With joy they took part in this and took as a gift the Cossack lands from the Bolsheviks. But they did not want to fight for the ideas of Marx and Lenin. Muslim guys have always considered Jews to be their enemies. Israel has been at war since its foundation with Muslims, if anyone does not know.
I believe that they celebrate the day of their tragedy correctly. They do not call to send all Russians to the Novosibirsk islands, regardless of their views and participation in the deportation, as was done with their peoples. They do not shout about leaving Russia. They took an active part in the battles in the Donbas, in Syria, in South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Yes, not all Chechens like this, part wants independence, but this is an insignificant part and so far it does not make the weather in Chechnya.
Not all nations give a damn about their history, their customs and their culture. It is our people who reconciled with the distribution of their acquired lands with their blood, along with the Russian people living on these lands. And now 25 million Russians live abroad, and many in VO "sympathize with them." Crocodile tears are shed and blame Putin and Yeltsin. Lenin, Trotsky, Bukharin, Kogan and other fiery revolutionary-Russophobes must be blamed. Every people of Russia, and especially Russian, has the right to its own history and to its historical dates.

[Chaos]

Mouth Mr., you would still remember the king of peas, gathered everything in a heap. Separate the grain from the chaff. Caucasians were evicted during the war, where it was decided whether we would live or not. All other settlements are a completely different story.

[Terenin]

Quote: captain

They do not call for the sending of all Russians to the Novosibirsk islands, regardless of their views and participation in the deportation, as was done with their peoples.

Written how to filter. Did the Russian people deport them or make this decision? Why, then, not to analyze the fact that the American authorities during the war, so to speak "to avoid" - US citizens of Japanese descent were placed in concentration camps - at the same time, military operations were not conducted directly on the territory of the USA. It, as you generally understand, - to evict Nazi accomplices from their territory during the war is tyranny, and to evict settled Japanese from the USA after the war is a logical and true act?

[Merin]

To begin with, the Japanese at the same time had no room for mass pestilence. And in the Soviet Union killed up to half the population. Which is a big difference.
The Japanese were an alien ethnos. In the USSR they were indigenous peoples.

[New Year day]

Quote: Zomanus

Oh, maybe it’s worth remembering why they were relocated?
And at the same time talk about the same Crimean Tatars?

- On the eve of World War II, the Crimean Tatars made up less than one fifth of the population of the peninsula. Here are the 1939 census data:
Russian 558 481 49,6%
Tatars 218 179 19,4%
The official languages ​​of the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic were Russian and Tatar. The administrative principle of the autonomous republic was based on the national principle. In 1930, national village councils were created: Russian - 207, Tatar - 144, German - 37, Jewish - 14, Bulgarian - 9, Greek - 8, Ukrainian - 3, Armenian and Estonian - 2. In addition, national districts were organized . In 1930 there were 7 such districts: 5 Tatar (Sudak, Alushta, Bakhchisarai, Yalta and Balaklava), 1 German (Biyuk-Onlarsky, later Telman) and 1 Jewish (Fraydorf). In all schools, children of national minorities studied in their own language.
In 1941-1944:
Information from the High Command of the German Ground Forces, compiled on March 20, 1942.
“The mood of the Tatars is good. The German authorities are obedient and proud if they are given recognition in the service or outside. The greatest pride for them is to have the right to wear German uniforms.
Regarding the test of the Tatars in battles with partisans, information on the Tatar companies of self-defense can serve, in general, this information can be considered quite positive. Such an assessment can be given to all military actions in which the Tatars took part. Good information was obtained during the implementation of various reconnaissance activities. With regard to discipline and pace of movement on the march, the companies showed themselves on the good side. In clashes with partisans and in small battles, military units fought confidently, completely or partially destroying partisans or taking them to flight, as, for example, in the region of Bakhchisaray, Karabogaz and Sudak. "
--------
The state security organs of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War. T.3. Book 1. The collapse of the Blitzkrieg. S.600.
--- In the Sudak region in 1942, a group of self-defense Tatars eliminated the reconnaissance assault force of the Red Army; when the assault force was liquidated, 12 Soviet paratroopers were captured and burnt alive.

Crimean Tatar detachments dealt with the civilian population just as brutally. It got to the point that, fleeing reprisals, Russian-speaking residents of Crimea often turned to the German authorities for help - and found protection from them!
- In April-May 1944, the Crimean Tatar battalions fought against the Soviet troops liberating Crimea. So, on April 13, in the vicinity of the Islam-Terek station in the east of the Crimean peninsula, three Crimean Tatar battalions (apparently the 11th, 148st and 151rd) were operating against parts of the 153th Guards Corps, having lost 800 prisoners only . The 149th battalion fought stubbornly in battles for Bakhchisarai.
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Drobyazko S.I. Under the banners of the enemy ... S.267–268.

[zombirusrev]

https://topwar.ru/40198-mif-o-nespravedlivosti-vy
seleniya-chechencev-i-ingushey-v-1944-godu.html
The myth of the injustice of the eviction of Chechens and Ingush in 1944
February 24 2014
23 February 1944 launched Operation “Lentils”: the deportation of Chechens and Ingushs “for aiding the fascist invaders” from the territory of the Chechen-Ingush ASSR (ChIASSR) to Central Asia and Kazakhstan. The Chechen-Ingush ASSR was abolished, 4 was transferred from its composition to the Dagestan ASSR, to the North-Ossetian ASSR - one district, the Grozny region was created on the rest of the territory.

The operation (Operation Lentil) was carried out under the leadership of the People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR Lawrence Beria. The eviction of the Chechen-Ingush population was carried out without any problems. During the operation, 780 people were killed, 2016 “anti-Soviet element” was arrested, more than 20 thousand firearms were seized. 180 trains were sent to Central Asia with a total number of 493 people being resettled. The operation was carried out very efficiently and showed high skill of the administrative apparatus of the Soviet Union.

Background and causes of punishment

It must be said that the situation in Chechnya was already difficult during the revolution and the Civil War. The Caucasus in this period was swept by real bloody unrest. The mountaineers were able to return to the usual "craft" - robbery and banditry. White and red, engaged in war with each other, could not restore order during this period.

It was a difficult situation in 1920-s. Thus, “A brief overview of banditry in the North Caucasus Military District, as of 1 September 1925” reports: “The Chechen Autonomous Region is a hotbed of criminal gangsterism ... For the most part, Chechens are prone to gangsterism, as the main source of easy money, which is promoted by a large availability of weapons. The upland Chechnya is a haven for the most inveterate enemies of Soviet power. Cases of banditry on the part of Chechen gangs are not amenable to accurate accounting ”(Pykhalov I. For what Stalin evicted the nations. M., 2013).

[Ural resident]

So what did Stalin do then? Where did you fight?
My wife’s grandfather fought in the Caucasus - he says they were no longer afraid of the Germans — they were on the front, and Chechens who fought in the rear were shot in the back and stole supplies.

[RUSS]

Quote: A resident of the Urals

So what did Stalin do then? Where did you fight?
My wife’s grandfather fought in the Caucasus - he says they were no longer afraid of the Germans — they were on the front, and Chechens who fought in the rear were shot in the back and stole supplies.

So ALL and children, women and the elderly were deported.

[flicker]

For Chechens and Ingushs this is a tragic event, and the heads of the republics must react accordingly.
But on the other hand, I propose everyone to imagine a situation where it was not Stalin who was at the head of the USSR, but Ramzan Kadyrov and he would be responsible for a huge country, for its history, for those many peoples that inhabit it and his army would lead the most bloody , the most brutal war in the history of mankind - and at that time, somewhere in the rear, they would have shot at the back of his army. What would Ramzan Kadyrov do with them?
At the same time, it must be admitted that many Chechens and Ingush heroically fought and died at the front. So, of course, this question is very difficult, because those who shot the Soviet soldiers in the back shot, in fact, including their own Chechens and Ingush.

[Denis Obukhov]

This Russian servant would shut his mouth. No Chechen is allowed to speak ill of Russian rulers.

[Vadim237]

And he does not know your rule.

[Denis Obukhov]

From now on, Ramzan Akhmatovich can bear the proud double surname Kadyrov-Svinidze. If there were no mass desertion and mass collaboration among the Ingush and Chechens and a number of other nationalities during the Great Patriotic War, then no one would need to be moved to the Altai mountains and Kazakh steppes! And if Comrade Stalin had not shown, in due time, humanism and would not have resettled the Chechens in the Altai mountains and Kazakh steppes, then they would probably have to apply tougher measures of appeasement. And do not let Kadyrov-Svinidze “whistle” about “certain death”, “gradual extinction” and “half of the population” that “died from hunger, cold and epidemics”. Firstly, the concept of “certain death” already contradicts the thesis of the death of only “half of the population”. Secondly, there is evidence that during the resettlement itself and in the first year after it, one fifth to one third of the deported Chechens died (according to various sources). That is already not half. Of course, this is, in any case, the tragedy of the Chechen people. But you don’t have to be a pig, you don’t need to increase the numbers and, moreover, you need to remember (and not to lie that it wasn’t), which made the decision on deportation. Chechens, as a people, have paid for mass Russophobia and support for Hitler. And the fact that not all Chechens were deserters and traitors, and that among them were heroes, including Heroes of the Soviet Union, and that many innocent people suffered during the deportation (most of the deported, including women, children, can be safely attributed , old people), so this is also true. But there was a time when there was no time to figure out who was right and who was to blame; sent all families without exception. And this was then justified, given that among the Chechens and other highlanders everything was connected with mutual responsibility and deserters who fled to the mountains with weapons in their hands could find refuge in the "peaceful Chechens" remaining in the villages. Therefore, everyone was resettled. And about the "gradual extinction" is also a lie. During the years of deportation, Chechens and other deported peoples restored and even increased their prewar numbers.
Of course, each sandpiper praises its swamp, each tribal and regional leader looks at the world from his own bell tower (and more often from his own cave - see F. Bacon “Experiences, or moral and political instructions”). Therefore, this assessment of Stalin by the Svanidz and Kadyrovs is not at all surprising. Each of them looks at Stalin from his cave and sees only one side or even just a shadow of a great historical figure.

[Under the dome]

Ministry of Culture will ban ramzan?

[forty-eighth]

They are sitting there praying, as if Ramzan had not banned them .... And then later you will have to apologize.

[Radical]

Quote: Black_Jacket

What did you want? Our political mainstream is directed in this direction. If through all channels the hysterical Zhirinovsky shouts that Stalin was a criminal, and all communism is criminal, it is natural that people from the periphery will be driven in this direction. Putin was personally present at the opening of the so-called Wall of Sorrow. Kadyrov would sit in silence if “convicting the scoop” were not a national occupation.

[Servisinzhener]

The deportation was done in the spirit of the time, raking everyone indiscriminately. Like many before them on other grounds. This should not be. Because it provokes the emergence of new principled enemies from among those who are innocently raked. Of course, Stalin did a lot of good and useful things, but such actions do not apply to them from the word at all.

[Terenin]

On the one hand, I don’t want to incite hatred, but something is “gnawing” my soul like a DB veteran, because I found out that the Chechens who fought against us, in the first and second companies (CTOs) also received the status of “Veteran of hostilities” . In my opinion, what is wrong.

[Evgeny Strygin]

civil war with all that it implies. What he carries now does not relate to this. This refers to the jackal nature of our authorities - if the USSR is not a hellish evil then a simple and understandable question arises.
Who are they and what are they doing in the Kremlin?

[Russia]

In 1985, he was a student in a construction team (Perm Region). They pulled the cable from the district center to the collective farm, installing and starting the automatic telephone exchange, connecting subscribers. There were seven of us in the brigade. The equipment was revised at the collective farm club and began to hold discos in the evenings, the benefit of the youth was a lot from Perm, they helped to harvest from some factory. In the same village, three huge, red-headed Chechens shabbat, made asphalt paths to the office. After another dance, they asked to return their cassette with Pugacheva, and she disappeared. They began to demand from us, they offered them any choice (they brought the latest recordings from Sonya from Kuibyshev), so no, they needed the one that was hackneyed. They said: Budem you cut like sheep and gave 3 days. For three days they reminded us and threatened inadvertently, for three nights we slept with crowbars and shovels. On the fourth day, they come so funny and say: we found a rat, he had one (a local rat was looking for work for them) and they said that you guys are good, come tomorrow to the clearing, we have lamb and vodka behind us (in 85g. Problem) And they did so, they were like relatives. So here I am to the fact that they have one step from love to hate, and I already reviewed those stories about friendship and brotherhood of nations.

[Terenin]

And who had friendly relations with the Russians? the Baltic states, Ukrainians or Caucasians? Some show off from them all were (in the army), and attacked only by the crowd. It may not be right, but now Ukraine has separated, but for some reason I’m not sad

[Russia]

Quote: Terenin

And who had friendly relations with the Russians? the Baltic states, Ukrainians or Caucasians? Some show off from them all were (in the army), and attacked only by the crowd. It may not be right, but now Ukraine has separated, but for some reason I’m not sad

I agree, with the holiday of you and a raise!

[Terenin]

Quote: Rusland

I agree, with the holiday of you and a raise!

Mutually, dear! Good luck, good luck and again, good luck!

[Evgeny Strygin]

mmmm, those who fought were subjected to repression? .... But how, is Allah there to relate to lies? Can you grind anything?
We jump. At such a pace VERY soon.

[satum]

They do not forget the great detail that these thousands of deported "people" fought on the side of the Nazis and tried to separate Chechnya from the USSR. In short, Maskhadov, Dudaev, Basaev, etc. can be ranked as “heroes” for the independence of Chechnya

[Letnab]

If they could succeed with an independent Ichkeria, then all of the persons you listed would be heroes ... Everyone, as in the former Soviet republics, is looking for and creating their own history of themselves and the world ...

[andron-30]

there were a lot of things, there were different milestones in the history of Russia, both good and bad, but you need to live and remember that if we start an internal showdown it will not make our life easier, it will only attract jackals and scavengers (USA And hedgehog with them)

[Morrow]

Blaming from a sore head to a healthy one will not help

[EvilLion]

We can repeat, starting with Kadyrov. He would be silent in a rag, and so the Chechens in Russia do not like, and there is no one to blame the Chechens for themselves.

[Separ]

In 1954-56, N.S. Khrushchev allowed partial deportation of Chechen nationality to their homeland. My father worked at that time in Komsomolskoye under the recruitment program for work (I was only planned for 2-3 months). Father was given a house, work, and everything was fine, but the indigenous people began to return - a Chechen came in and stuck a knife in the door and showed his father on his fingers - how many hours were left for him to collect things and get out of his house, and that’s was in the best case (in the worst case I will not describe anything). In the years 70-80 he served in the Kazakh SSR in a small town where deported nationalities lived compactly. February 23, as they themselves said, was a "rainy day" for them, for us it was also an unpleasant day. the soldier (this is February 23rd) was not recommended to be released on dismissal, and the officers were not very comfortable that day either, they just heard ".. we will kill you Russians .." (this did not apply to the Kazakhs).
Despite Kadyrov’s efforts, there is a wall between us, why Chechen youth does not take an active part in all-Russian life, but takes an active part in criminal squabbles in large cities, they all have crazy grandmas, they drive the most expensive cars, where do they get it from ? Why are Chechen youth inadequately (to put it mildly) behaving in Russian cities? And many many why. Will there be a national leader who will destroy this wall?

[Russia]

I completely agree with you, Happy holiday to you, health and family well-being.

[ul_vitalii]

Vyacheslav, happy holiday to you

[Svarog]

Quote: Separ

Will there be a national leader who will destroy this wall?

In order for this wall to be destroyed, first of all, Chechens must have an education no lower than ours. And with education they have a big problem. Secondly, the Chechen elite must not just in words but in deeds want to live with Russia according to the laws of Russia. Well and accordingly, at the same time, well educated. Well, Russia should have a program, ideology, in relation to especially difficult peoples of Russia. I think that in this case, after 30-50 years, the attitude on both sides recovered ..

[New Year day]

You know, I had such a case. It was 2005-2008, I do not remember already. But I remembered the rest. A patient from the Caucasus came to us, a sweet, kind girl. We quickly sorted it out, all in a bundle. brother / boyfriend / brother-in-law came to see her and we talked peacefully about life. And the devil jerked me to read about the Caucasus Lermontov! It was a must see! The guy was transformed - in the eyes of hatred, turned pale. And he says: "the Russians have always oppressed the Caucasus and we will always avenge it." I quickly translated everything into a peaceful channel, but the sediment remained. That's it!

[Separ]

Even during the Soviet Union, it was hard to take off the army, the commanders tried to get them off somewhere, only Vakha or Nokhcha would come — they immediately put together a company from their fellow countrymen and the unregulated relationship began ... but the friendly guys didn’t take it away from them.

[Separ]

God and Allah give

[Beltasir matyagu]

I will not forgive the accomplices of the Nazis! While millions of Russians fought on the fronts and perished, these betrayed us. Thank you say that Stalin was not Hitler. I would send it to soap.

[Sadko88]

Both that and that worthy leaders of the people. Kadyrov also deals with the return of our citizens. Even those who, by their own stupidity, have come across. It was not worth generalizing. Cossacks, however, had the wisdom to not generalize everyone with those who were mistaken and opposed the USSR.

[Letnab]

Engaged, but somehow more and more Muslims are working, and all this is more likely for PR ..

[Leonid Dymov]

I think that it was only necessary to punish the guilty, but not those who fought against the Nazis. There were camps for deserters and traitors. One could do without deportation.
Chechens avenged not only for their deportation, but also for the deportation of Ingush, Kalmyks, Crimean Tatars. This satisfied everyone, although only Chechens fought. Now the former militants are the elite of the Russian army. This page is upside down. It is necessary to live not in the past, but in the present and future.

[Letnab]

In the above posts, it was written about mutual responsibility in the Chechen Republic, there was no time for analysis, it was necessary to secure the rear, restore the destroyed cities, and these peoples would only be beaten in the back if they were looking only for the directly guilty. After all, not only ordinary residents of the republic were gangsters, but also people who held senior positions in the republic at that time
As for the turned page, not yet time has passed, too many witnesses and victims of the fighters for free Ichkeria, and now the behavior of the representatives of these republics does not allow us to forget and start again ...

[Kunica]

But the Russians never starved, were not expelled to the bare steppes, did not die in the hundreds of camps? Who will apologize to us? And still struck the "hard worker people." What did they bother except cattle? Otar and Sakl. The rest was built by the Russians. And more than once.

[tolmachiev51]

The Caucasus was, is and will be a thorn in the "ass" of Russia. Such a muddy people.

[Nikolaevich I]

Thousands of Chechens, Ingush served in the Red Army; And tens of thousands to the Germans!
- Mass desertion of Chechens and Ingush: in just three years of World War II, 49362 Chechens and Ingush defected from the ranks of the Red Army, and 13389 “valiant highlanders” evaded the draft (Chuyev S. North Caucasus 1941-1945. War in the rear. No. 2002).
For example: at the beginning of 1942, when creating a national division, only 50% personnel could be called up.
In total, about 10 thousands of Chechens and Ingushs served honestly in the Red Army, thousands of people died and went missing. And more than 2,3, thousands of their relatives evaded the fulfillment of military duty.

- Banditry. From July 1941 to 1944, on the territory of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, state security authorities eliminated 197 gangs - 657 gangsters were killed, 2762 were captured, 1113 surrendered voluntarily. For comparison, in the ranks of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army almost half as many Chechens and Ingushs died or were captured. This is without counting the losses of the "Highlanders" in the ranks of Hitler's "Eastern battalions."

And given the complicity of the local population, without which banditry in the mountains is not possible, due to the primitive communal psychology of the Highlanders, many
“Peaceful Chechens and Ingushs” can also be included in the category of traitors. That in the conditions of military, and often peaceful time is punishable only by death.

- The uprisings of 1941 and 1942's.

- Concealment of saboteurs. As the front approached the borders of the republic, the Germans began to throw scouts and saboteurs into its territory. Reconnaissance and sabotage groups of Germans were welcomed by the local population very favorably.

Memories of a German saboteur of Avar origin, Osman Guba (Saydnurov) are very eloquent, he was planned to be appointed Gauleiter (governor) in the North Caucasus:

“Among the Chechens and Ingush, I easily found the right people ready to betray, go to the German side and serve them.

I was surprised: why are these people unhappy? Under the Soviet regime, Chechens and Ingushs lived prosperously, in prosperity, much better than in pre-revolutionary times, which I personally saw after more than four months in the territory of Chechnya-Ingushetia.

I repeat, Chechens and Ingushs do not need anything, which struck me as I recalled the difficult conditions and constant deprivation that mountain emigration found in Turkey and Germany. I couldn’t find another explanation, except that these people from Chechens and Ingushes, changing moods towards their Motherland, were guided by selfish considerations, the desire under the Germans to preserve at least the remnants of their well-being, to provide a service, in compensation of which the invaders would leave at least some of them available livestock and food, land and housing. "

[Esoteric]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

I was surprised: what are these people unhappy with? Chechens and Ingushs lived well under the Soviet rule

And what surprises me is that people don’t understand the difference between rancor and forgiveness. Therefore, some annually remember the deportation of an “honest and loyal” people, while others simply celebrate the Day of the Soviet Army and Navy. Although the reasons for betrayal are always clear ...

[Evil 55]

The Soviet Union did not make mistakes .. The Caucasian "fifth column" was stopped on time, by necessary and effective methods ..

[demo]

I read the statements of many on a very slippery issue and wanted to speak.
It is impossible to consider the behavior of Caucasians in a temporary separation from what happened in our country until the events of 1941-1945.
Let's rewind the time tape back.
World War I.
Russia enters the war.
The Russian army begins to conduct hostilities.
The main national composition of the regular army is Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians - although they are all Russian.

Muslims of the Russian Empire, most of whom lived in the Caucasus and Central Asia, were free from compulsory military service. For obvious reasons, the authorities were by no means eager to arm the originally belligerent and potentially hostile people. How justified such fears is hard to say; So, in the middle of the XNUMXth century, at the same time that the Russian army reflected the attacks of the Abreks on the southern borders, dozens of the same Muslim mountaineers served faithfully in the Tsar’s convoy, a special unit responsible for the personal protection of the emperor.

Be that as it may, in August 1914, when all the estates of the country were seized by an unprecedented patriotic upsurge, by order of Nicholas II a Caucasian native equestrian division was created. The call of the White Tsar, as the ruler of Russia was called in the east, is answered by many young highlanders who know how to wield a blade, keep in the saddle and shoot without a miss.

The division is reduced to six regiments - Ingush, Circassian, Tatar, Kabardinsky, Dagestan and Chechen. Dzhigits arrive on their horses, in their own form - chertans-Circassians and popes, with their knives. At public expense - only a rifle. Salary - 20 rubles per month.

Service in an unusual military formation is voluntary, therefore, although Muslims make up 90% of the personnel are “wild”, among its soldiers and officers you can find Russian nobles, Baltic Germans, and even Baltic Fleet sailors. Moreover, in the team, where every second is a noble aristocrat, genuine democracy reigns, and the main measure is real military merit.

By the end of 1914 - that is, not immediately, but after a 4-month training of personnel - the division was transferred to the South-Western Front, where heavy fighting with the Austrians continued.

The most famous of the division commanders, from the moment of its formation until the beginning of 1916, was Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich - the brother of the last tsar. A handsome cavalryman, a strong man, tearing an unopened deck of cards with steel fingers, he enjoyed great authority among the mountaineers. The 35-year-old adjutant general was unpretentious and modest in everyday life, was not afraid to appear in the most dangerous positions.

With him, the division participated in the capture of Stanislavov (now Ivano-Frankivsk) and the liberation of Galicia in 1915.

About the military tactics of the "natives" gives an idea, for example, such a case. In the spring of 1915, when the Galicia rivers were barely free of ice, a hundred highlanders, literally holding daggers in their teeth, cross the Dniester at night, on the other bank of which there are Austrian positions. Silently removed sentries in secrets. Ahead are the enemy’s trenches, protected by barbed wire. The highlanders do not have special scissors to cut it (and the highlander does not see the point of dragging an object that is not needed for close combat); The "thorn" is simply bombarded with Dagestan burkas. They creep noiselessly to the trenches and, with daggers alone, under the guttural screams, pounce on the enemy.

Pay attention to the fact that the Highlanders, including Chechens, are fighting voluntarily.
Although exempted from military service.
Where are the interests of the tsar and Russia and where are the interests of the highlander in the sakla?

Revolution.
The Highlanders refuse to shoot at their fellow citizens and, in full force, go home to the Caucasus.
The Civil War begins.
And here, to all the promises of the Volunteer Army, they refused.
It is not the business of real men to shed innocent blood.

And why did they refuse?
And the thing, probably, is that when the heads of clans and teips entered the Russian Empire, they swore allegiance to the Emperor, the White Tsar.
And the oath of apostasy is a terrible crime.
The Highlander swore an oath, could not break it.
Only those to whom it was given could withdraw their obligations under the oath.
Does this characterize them as decent people?

In the days of the empire, the highlanders lived their own lives, intersecting little with other peoples.
Soviet power steeply began to change the centuries-old traditions, customs and orders.
For the mountaineer, loyalty to tradition is the cornerstone of being.

By the age of 40, the Soviets had become firmly established.
Far from the best representatives of their peoples clung to power.
And where personal courage, strength, dexterity were previously valued, cunning, denunciation, deceit, slander and a lot of other negative things began to be cultivated.
Another sinner's point of view.

And the arrival of the Nazis in the Caucasus was perceived by many as an opportunity to return to their traditions and customs.
Naive faith, but what is.

Yes.
Some gave their lives for their homeland, for Stalin.
And others in cattle cars drove in February across the Kazakhstan steppe.
Without heating, without basic hygiene conditions.
Just imagine that people with a Muslim mentality are forced to violate all the requirements of Islam.
Your family should not be seen by an outsider.
And here everything is in one car, where your women are forced to justify the need in front of an outsider.
It's hard for me to imagine.
This degree of humiliation.

Although I do not welcome the behavior of any representatives of the Ingush and Chechens, to send the whole people is a very cool decision.
Most likely, Stalin went too far.

My mom's family had 10 more brothers and six sisters.
Older brothers fought at the front.
But a terrible thing happened.
One of her brothers, a political instructor, was arrested and received 10 years.
He lies somewhere in the Kolyma.
The rest of the brothers, who are disabled, who are alive and healthy, never scolded Stalin after the war.
Although I was not present at the conversations of the elders, but later, when I was old enough, I asked my mother a question - how do you feel about Stalin if he hid your brother in permafrost.
To which she, an intelligent woman, answered - and do not grind the man with his tongue, which is not required (my ancestors are from the Don).
For this, a man has a head to think about.
That's the whole story.

The Chechens simply did not think. Or they thought, but not in the right way.
And a good example of our days.
An attempt to separate from Russia.
The first and second Chechen company.

And we must remember.
Highlander just before bowing his head, who is stronger than him.
He does not bow before the weak.
It doesn’t matter if we are strong, spit and threaten through the word.
Threats do not color the man.
A man should be a man, and not seem to them.

[Letnab]

I wonder what kind of Wild Division the First Horse Budenny drove?
By the 40s, not only Slavs were in power in the national republics, but mostly representatives of local peoples. Even under the tsar’s priest, the local elite didn’t live in poverty if they did not raise their heads against the authorities. So, lies, deceit, etc. were not only present during the Soviet era, for these character traits are present in people regardless of nationality ...

[Nikolaevich I]

((And the arrival of the Nazis in the Caucasus was perceived by many as an opportunity to return to their traditions and customs.
Naive faith, but what is. )))
The history of the "wild" division is very "muddy and vague"! Enough to "rummage" on the Internet. Along with praises of the “wild” division, descriptions of the highlanders' heroism, one can also find as many (if not more) descriptions, evidence of savage cruelty towards unarmed prisoners; embezzlement of military property, looting, "jackal tactics" in battle (that is, they willingly pursued a running, disorganized enemy; but they refused to attack an enemy who managed (managed) to organize stubborn resistance (defense) ... I didn’t invent it ... that's all you can find it on the Internet (if you want). And what is remarkable, each of the "parties" (both the "supporters" and the "opponents" of the "heroic highlanders") give their arguments (evidence): links to documents, orders, reports, memoirs, memoirs and other sources ... And how do I, a Russian living he is far from Chechnya, Ingushetia to understand: where is the truth and where is the lie? Some fair conclusions can be drawn, knowing directly the highlanders, their mentality is living with them (or close by ...). communicating for a long time with them. And from time to time, it’s necessary to “communicate” —and the conclusions from such “communication” are far from positive with respect to Chechens, Dagis, and “others from the Caucasus” ... Sometimes there are thoughts that it’s mainly climbing into central Russia from the Caucasus, trash. Therefore, do not be "offended" by the Russian ... "thank" their fellow tribesmen, far from the best representatives ashih peoples.

[Grim Reaper]

I already wrote. My father, born in 1928 originally from the Krasnodar Territory Pleasing. He told how these "proud" mountaineers all went to the policemen in a crowd. And what they did. They were punished a little.

[Brother]

Eh ... once again you understand .. and how right was Joseph Vissarionovich, such a difficult time for the country.
And most importantly, what I did reasonably.

[XII legion]

Like in a joke - nothing left
It’s a pity that she returned)

[1536]

Nevertheless, the story is based on documents and facts, not emotions and word of faith. Therefore, history is a science, not a religion. Here is the link to the site ( http://journals.openedition.org/pipss/3724 ), where, in my opinion, it is interesting, with links to the archival funds of TsAMO, an analysis of the front situation of 1941-1942 is given. and the actions of the national military formations of the Red Army. This is the time of the battle for the Caucasus. And everyone draws conclusions for himself.
One thing is not clear why stir up the old firebrands, fan the new fire of ethnic hatred at the very time when we need to unite and go forward, remembering what happens when the enemy thinks that we are again divided. Or is everything changing, only the human brain is not changing? Then it should be discussed on medical sites.

[Letnab]

Please note that the old firebrands are being ragged by representatives of the national republics ...

[Asachi]

This article is about bad and good nations ..... I think there are none. I myself am Khakas, we didn’t have any Chechen exiles. But there were Germans. In the middle of a fierce winter, their families were unloaded from the wagons. Local, Khakasses on a sleigh carried to their home, and survived. Khakassky learned before Russian.))) I can not say anything bad about the Germans. Quite the contrary. But, it’s actually about the state’s policy towards peoples.
Here I am starting to recall my service in the ranks of the SA. He served as an urgent in the Strategic Missile Forces, as an ordinary - as a sergeant. 1987-1989, in Transbaikalia. It seems that already then there was a certain personnel policy. The vast majority in the combat units were Slavs, Tatars, Finno-Ugric peoples. Moreover, the Slavs were from Russia. Rarely, Ukraine, Belarus. Rarely, directly by the piece, from the republics of the former USSR. As a rule, business platoon.
If I am not mistaken, then the Koreans were not called up to the SA at all. ???

[Hurricane70]

Quote: 210ox

For all admirers of the “peacekeeper” Kadyrov ... This abrek will still put a knife in our backs. It is a pity that they lick him in the Kremlin.

This is one of the moves of the multi-path GDP!
The more glitteries, jewelry, letters, ranks and other greyhound puppies, the more humble, loyal and complaisant eastern princes (History, however) ... The goal to pay off the hearth has been achieved, and it would still smolder!
Well, as for the knife in the back, then Kadyrov / nonKadyrov, but the knife will be necessary, because our rulers do not understand the Caucasus and do not want to understand it, but the military understood it well:

[Hurricane70]

But hatred of I.V. Stalin unites the inseparable- Sobchachka and Ramzanka !!! That's it !!!

[Hurricane70]

Everything is clear with Kadyrov, but it’s interesting for Yunus bey, the paratrooper, the participant of the “throw to Pristina”, who received the Hero for it, in those days, too, thoughts about deportation sat in the head, or as usual, becoming a politician, he changed his shoes in the air, for the sake of liberalism and Natsik?

[Horseman without a head]

Allegedly again the bandyugan cursed Stalin
And in vain
According to legend, when transporting this evil spirits on barges, Lavrenty Palych proposed to flood them and the end of the matter.
To which Joseph Vissarionovich said - barges will be useful in the national economy.
He needs to erect a monument in Grozny, not otherwise. Allowed to live

[zan_parti]

This exclusivity and “resentment” need to be broken, otherwise we will also have our own caste of untouchables, before which everyone should repent.

It was as if nobody but the Chechens had been evacuated to the Urals and to the southern republics. And as if the rest were resettled in luxury cars and no one died on the road and in new places.

Stalin created at least some conditions for them, unlike the Chechens themselves, who drove the Russians into a pure field quite recently. Have you already forgotten how the inscription flaunted on all the fences: "Do not buy houses from Masha, they will be ours anyway"? Or maybe they forgot how they cut out those who dared to stay? The Chechens understand only power, and personally it scares me - I would like to have a neighbor who will help in difficult times, and will not put a knife in the back, coming up with new reasons for revenge.

Whose wounds are deeper and on whose hands there is more blood - a very controversial issue. We heard the Chechens, now we need them to hear us. Their opinion needs to be changed, otherwise there will be trouble.

[antiaircrafter]

“Tozherosiyans” are sad that some Soviet people resettled other “identical Soviet people”.
Moreover, in an organized and protected manner.

[RUSS]

Many write excuses for deportation saying they deported them because there were deserters and there were gangs, but why deport women and children? After all, it was mainly they who were sent to the huts, by the way, there were about 125000 fighters in the ROA and most of them were Russians, what did their relatives need to be sent to? I am sure the NKVD simply didn’t soar and look for deserters in the mountains, but simply sent everyone in retaliation under the comb and everything, as they say - "there is no man, no problems."
And one must not forget that the Chechens have been rehabilitated both under the USSR and by the current authorities.

[German Titov]

Donetsk "On a fig". Not Kadyrov And I don’t know who (to discuss anything). I remember the guys from Chechnya and “RESPECT”, “Thank you Brothers”. Ruslan Sultanovich (Aushev), we have a lot in “Uvakhukha” (in 2010 I was in Donetsk at the opening of the monument to Valera Arsenov, he was, so he is from Ingushetia). If according to “Garlic”, it’s not Ramzan to discuss the role of Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (Stalin). Well, just in case, my grandfather ("Tulag Pogranets)", "cleared" the Natsiokv in Belarus and Western Ukraine), Believe me, I am absolutely not a Pacifist.

[silverwolf88]

[quote = flicker] [quote] Whatever objectivity is, but for the Vainakh people this event is tragic - accordingly, a reaction. It is necessary to understand calmly, first of all, for the future of our state and all peoples living in it. [/ Quote]
So it’s surprising ... instead of a serious analysis (only facts and nothing personal) ... again emotions ... and there is NO truth behind them ...
And what was tragic for the Vainakhs ??? ... revolution ... entering the USSR ... let's decide WHAT ... the rest is a consequence ... like behavior in difficult times ... those who accepted the USSR as their homeland - fought like heroes ... and most did not accept it turns out ... t. e. the tragedy is ... that they did not accept the USSR and in any difficult year (1941 ... or 1991 it doesn’t matter) immediately on the knives ???

[sib.ataman]

And what did Stalin have a choice? WWII is over? Or maybe these abreks did not fight against the owls. power after the civil war until WWII, when the rest of the normal people were injected at the construction sites of socialism? And most importantly, they fought not so much on their own initiative, but for the loot and various promises of the Naglosak special services. And the leader of all times and peoples always liked to think ahead, t. for the future, and about "warm" relations with the Allies after the war. And if you recall the recent interview of a Dagestan journalist posted on the portal about the recent "landings" in Dagestan, in which he very vividly described the mentality of the highlanders, and given that Koba himself was from those parts, he knew who he was dealing with did Isif Vissarionovich have a choice? May they rejoice and glorify their Allah that he has not applied the laws of Sharia to them! But clearly taught them on debt as a dirty trick to Russia!

[Whore18]

One Chechen is a normal man, two Chechens are fellow countrymen, three Chechens are a gang.

[Non liberoid Russian]

Stalin did nothing in vain, no matter how much the princelings from the Caucasus wanted to teach

[Black_Vatnik]

RUSS,
You really need to bother to explain, otherwise it seems to me that you are comparing the causal place to a finger.

[zan_parti]

Quote: RUSS

Many write excuses for deportation saying they deported them because there were deserters and there were gangs, but why deport women and children? After all, it was mainly they who were sent to the huts, by the way, there were about 125000 fighters in the ROA and most of them were Russians, what did their relatives need to be sent to? I am sure the NKVD simply didn’t soar and look for deserters in the mountains, but simply sent everyone in retaliation under the comb and everything, as they say - "there is no man, no problems."
And one must not forget that the Chechens have been rehabilitated both under the USSR and by the current authorities.

They were deported so that the bandits running through the forests would not have support from the population. Banditry and desertion were widespread. It is surprising that everyone was rounded up and deported, instead of implementing martial law. All deserters and their accomplices had to be tried; in fact, the entire adult population had to be tried. Only children would remain there, who in this case would also be evacuated.

[Guillon]

My great-grandfather died in Malgobek in 1942. Fought the fascist bastards to the death! Everlasting memory !!!

[Terenin]

Malgobek - the city of Military Glory! Impressed me with its cleanliness.