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Pentagon: We do not know who was hit in the valley of the Euphrates, but certainly not at the Russian Armed Forces

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Pentagon press service spokesman Dana White commented on the data that the Americans attacked pro-government forces in the Euphrates valley (Deir ez-Zor province, Syria). According to White, the decision to strike was taken on an emergency basis - when the American forces and the "allies" saw "a movement on their position as a mechanized column."


At the same time, a representative of the American military department said that the Pentagon still has no information about the composition of the armed group that "launched the offensive."

From Dana White's statement:
We still do not know exactly who was in the lineup today. Therefore, we are not going to speculate on both the composition and the intentions.

At the same time, White claims that the United States knew for sure that there were no Russian servicemen in the “attackers”.

A Pentagon spokesman notes that a telephone connection was made with Russian colleagues to clarify information about the presence of the Russian military. White argues that contacts with the Russian Federation were carried out during the attack in the area of ​​the Euphrates valley.

Pentagon: We do not know who was hit in the valley of the Euphrates, but certainly not at the Russian Armed Forces


White:
Therefore, we were on 100% sure that the Russian military did not take part in that offensive. We received such data via a communication channel.


Recall that earlier the Russian Defense Ministry reported that in the province of Deir-ez-Zor, the American coalition struck at the pro-government ATS forces that decided to carry out their actions without coordination. After that, the media began to replicate statements about the death of allegedly hundreds of representatives of the “Wagner Group”. The Foreign Ministry of Russia later noted that in the Euphrates valley, in the clash, "up to five were killed and several dozen Russian citizens were injured." It was also stated that assistance was provided to the wounded Russians.
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  1. Muvka
    Muvka 23 February 2018 10: 28
    +6
    Someone chased a long ruble bypassing our military ...
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 23 February 2018 10: 35
      +34
      Someone chased a long ruble bypassing our military ...
      Do not blame the "wild geese", everyone has their own life and their own way ... And without them, too, they often go nowhere ... Many do useful things when it is impossible to publicize ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 23 February 2018 10: 40
        +13
        I do not blame. But blaming amers is somehow not quite right. Although I generally do not really like them.
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 23 February 2018 10: 47
          +24
          I do not blame. But blaming amers is somehow not quite right.
          It is unlikely that we will learn the whole truth to the end about this tragic case ... Although the Americans called ours, our kind of confirm ... The war is war and the guys were not beardless boys, they knew what they were going to ... It seems to me that there really was some kind of or inconsistency, or self-activity ... Now you can’t play back. In any case, today the third is worth remembering them too ..
          1. tol100v
            tol100v 23 February 2018 10: 55
            +5
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            In any case, today the third is worth remembering them too ..

            And many, many others, about which not a word!
          2. Andrey K
            Andrey K 23 February 2018 13: 03
            +16
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            ... Although the Americans called ours, ours seem to confirm ... War is war and the guys were not beardless boys, they knew what they were going to ...

            Both the geldings and ours are not speaking. Everyone, everyone knew perfectly. After all, everyone knows perfectly well - not a single mover on the theater of operations is unbeknownst - at least ours or the IRGC, well, the muharata workers can be in the subject. Most likely, our miscalculation was in the hope that the horses would not bring down our specialists in the ranks of the Syrians. Miscalculated.
            Now horses create an informational noise - "we did not know."
            I can’t say, but something tells me very strongly that without the noise and dust, geldings will also receive the coffins of their advisers. They also feel it, that’s what they’ll hurt.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 23 February 2018 11: 08
          +15
          And no one blames them. In this case. And they acted harshly and precisely without coping, which is often lacking in ours
          Quote: Muvka
          I do not blame. But blaming amers is somehow not quite right. Although I generally do not really like them.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 23 February 2018 11: 32
            +9
            Have you seen materials from Idlib after the downing of the Su-25? I have seen. And I didn’t notice
            1. papas-57
              papas-57 23 February 2018 19: 13
              +3
              '' Have you seen materials from Idlib after the downing of the Su-25? I have seen. And he didn’t notice the complicity. '' And what exactly was there visible? Somewhere ahead and below explosions and .... silence. Not a single coffin was delivered either to the United States or to Geyrop. Although it was not without their participation.
        3. User
          User 23 February 2018 11: 59
          +15
          Quote: Muvka
          I do not blame. But blame amers somehow not quite correctly. Although I generally do not really like them.

          Seriously? US pushed into Syria and attacked pro-government forces, which ones are not important. And they have nothing to blame? From the point of view of international law (oh, if it still worked), US troops in Syria are no different from ISIS troops, and it was worth acting in relation to them in the same way. That's just the United States of Syria is too tough and such "incidents" are simply ignored. In international politics, the primitive order is now: whoever has a bigger club, is right.
          1. Morrrow
            Morrrow 23 February 2018 20: 21
            +1
            international law does not exist.
        4. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 23 February 2018 12: 30
          +4
          Quote: Muvka
          I do not blame. But blaming amers is somehow not quite right. Although I generally do not really like them.


          Oh yes, it’s right wrong ??? If the Americans had not started this terrorist pseudo-jihad, then there would have been no such discussion at all. If you are not "very" like that, you don’t have to wag the hoop ...
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 23 February 2018 18: 22
            +2
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Geisenberg

            hi
            You're right. If Sam the goat-beard had not poked his nose without demand to where he was not expected, everything would have been a bunch. What do we have today?

            In the Eastern Ghout, the barmalei were tightly squeezed and the United States throws there its "students" who surround themselves with civilians, hampering the actions of the SAA.
            Well, the singers from the “Europe” to save the “son of a bitch” are offering a TEMPORARY ceasefire and lifting the blockades of the surrounded bandits.
        5. Mih1974
          Mih1974 24 February 2018 05: 30
          0
          Hear the paddle; am It is not the first year that the Nazis from the USA directly and indirectly, through the supply of all kinds of nosr, have been killing the peaceful people of Syria, cutting heads for children, raping girls, and bombing the city. am These creatures from the USA - should be ALL killed for the salvation of Mankind itself, as rabid dogs which do not isolate them, they - KILL to save all those around them.
        6. Skif83
          Skif83 24 February 2018 08: 34
          0
          Yes, blaming them ... is empty ...
          Need to respond to the maximum mirror!
        7. cats
          cats 24 February 2018 08: 55
          +4
          And rightly so ... Che blaming a robber crawled into a friend's house .. Rob and FSE .. What is his fault ..
      2. groks
        groks 23 February 2018 10: 57
        +1
        Yes? But in this case, the publicity did not work?
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 23 February 2018 10: 35
      +2
      Evidence of an American strike against pro-government forces in the Euphrates Valley (Deir ez-Zor province, Syria).

      Well, it begins ... This is revenge for the downed F-16 and the joy of the Arabs in the BV!
      Now I think Israel is striking from its territory against Russian hehe (joke)) Syria, but anything can be angry
      1. dorz
        dorz 23 February 2018 10: 43
        +4
        This is a 100% planned action - within a few hours CNN blew as the Americans wet the Russians in Syria, and they won’t raise the B-52 without further exploration.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 23 February 2018 10: 50
          +1
          Can you give a reference?
          1. dorz
            dorz 23 February 2018 11: 31
            0
            There is very little information that I remembered.
            https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3990824.htm
            l? page = 7
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 23 February 2018 11: 37
              +3
              And where is the link to CNN? I do not find.
      2. Nikolay Fedorov
        Nikolay Fedorov 24 February 2018 14: 06
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Now I think Israel is striking from its territory with Russian hehe (joke)) Syria, but anything can be angry

        Now, I think, crime is striking at your close ones hehe (joke)) not at yours, but everything can be angry
        It is unlikely that you liked such a rehash with your own "joke", so be careful with jokes.
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 24 February 2018 14: 13
          0
          Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
          Now, I think, crime is striking at your close ones hehe (joke)) not at yours, but everything can be
          It is unlikely that you liked such a rehash with your own "joke", so be careful with jokes.

          Strange comment ..! I have every "joke" with a meaning .. You clearly allude to the "bloody regime" in Russia ha ha ha .. Interesting liberals and funny hints you have ... laughing bully The closer to March 18 the funnier you read .. lol wassat I feel sorry for you all! hi
          1. Nikolay Fedorov
            Nikolay Fedorov 24 February 2018 15: 17
            +2
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
            Now, I think, crime is striking at your close ones hehe (joke)) not at yours, but everything can be
            It is unlikely that you liked such a rehash with your own "joke", so be careful with jokes.

            Strange comment ..! I have every "joke" with a meaning .. You clearly allude to the "bloody regime" in Russia ha ha ha .. Interesting liberals and funny hints you have ... laughing bully The closer to March 18 the funnier you read .. lol wassat I feel sorry for you all! hi

            When you go to your toilet in your apartment, do you happen to find liberals there? Didn’t you look under the sofa? Probably, every time you find at least one liberal there, that’s why they always seem strange to you ... laughing Before you put a label on someone, you would go to your profile and look at the comments to make an impression of the person.
            I’ll try to explain what exactly I had in mind, although you, as it seems to me, you still won’t understand. Maybe I'm wrong, and I still try.
            I had a lot of war and had to lose my friends and comrades. It hurts. And the farther, the more painful. It’s impossible to get used to it, at least not for me. From war, the nervous system is not strengthened, but rather is shaken. Therefore, phrases such as "Israel strikes from its territory against Russian hehe (joke)) ..." I consider it an unsuccessful joke - tactless and cynical. For you, these are just blah blah blah words, for me, our blood.
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov 25 February 2018 06: 49
              +1
              Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
              Before you put a label on someone, you would go to your profile and look at the comments to make an impression of the person.

              You’re right, please excuse me ... Sometimes it brings me up. hi
              1. Nikolay Fedorov
                Nikolay Fedorov 25 February 2018 12: 42
                +2
                Received. It happens to me too. hi
                1. Vitaly Anisimov
                  Vitaly Anisimov 25 February 2018 12: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
                  Received. It happens to me too. hi

                  Well, thank God ! We can’t swear ... Regards! soldier
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 February 2018 10: 28
    +6
    Pentagon: We do not know who was hit in the valley of the Euphrates, but certainly not at the Russian Armed Forces

    Wow. There is no intelligence. They flew, saw, bombed .... So maybe the Americans kicked their cats? Can they mask their losses?
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 23 February 2018 10: 33
      +5
      The sincere recognition of the Pentagon.
      We beat everything that moves.
      This is American morality and their notorious professionalism !!
      But ...
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 23 February 2018 10: 33
      +13
      Pentagon: We do not know who was hit in the valley of the Euphrates, but certainly not at the Russian Armed Forces

      Kindergarten, younger slide group ... No.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 23 February 2018 10: 37
        +15
        They did the thing, and now they grin.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 23 February 2018 10: 44
          +6
          So it’s not the first time: they have fallen, and then ridiculous excuses such as “a mistake came out, milpardon ...”. negative
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 23 February 2018 11: 13
      +9
      No, their official version is from the general - commander of the operation.
      in a few days they revealed the accumulation of forces (in the original last week - hit on Wednesday night) - and the Russians called on the regular channel, to the center of the monitoring. They recalled that American soldiers and their allies from the SDF are on Koniko. And they asked to take measures to prevent incidents with detected forces.

      Contacts were several times before the events.

      When the attack went on (in the original a detachment the size of a battalion with support for tanks and artillery located deep in the territory of the Syrian army) - they called the red telephone and asked why you are attacking us? Is it yours? They answered no.

      As a result, "unidentified hostile forces" were smashed by all available forces and means.


      Why, having learned - that they opened the preparation and then said no? Versions essentially 2:
      - loss of control, that is, they really missed the point, did not report, the Syrians from ISIS Hunters (through whom the operation was carried out) concealed. Perhaps here the role of the new command played, which did not delve into the matter - specified, are these our soldiers? Not? Well, okay.
      - a tricky plan. A sharp and quick blow to pick up Koniko, knocking out the Kurds and the Americans. Well, and then to hang Syrian flags, the Americans will not bomb the plant, boxing will begin by correspondence through the UN and diplomats, and then the factory has been repelled. That is, they simply didn’t calculate that the Americans would work right from the wheels, perhaps they thought that there was no separate American TACP, only the SDF and the US nominal representatives, that is, they could not organize a normal pick-up, as the same general said, the Air Force TACP sat and did great job.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 24 February 2018 05: 41
        +1
        For all these tricks, it is high time to formally conclude a military alliance with Syria, and after the statement of the representatives of Syria to the UN demanding that the United States leave the territory within XNUMX hours - begin to destroy them throughout the territory of Syria. As the Americans actually hunted us in Vietnam and Korea. bully . And while the diplomats will tear their hair at each other at the UN, they will roll the retired Merikas across Syria into small gravel. good
        And do not listen to the liberists with their squeals “you want a nuclear war with the United States”, they will not start a war with us in America even for those killed in Syria, because in the first place America will not win, in the second it is fully fought with us in Syria - this is already full it is the War on their part, where they are the Aggressor and for their attack on us in Syria, we can attack them at any of their bases (except America itself). !! And that means they’ll disappear, the main thing is to convey to them clearly our vision of the situation and readiness (and not just words) to fight against them !!
        And we don’t need snot here “they have our money”, “they have our oligarchs”. It's time to admit that the United States is already leading against Russia - WAR. soldier And we even "June 23" continue to dub ourselves "do not succumb to provocations."
        Only our real determination in the form of action (as in Georgia 08/08/08) can make these idiots think a little about the reality of the consequences of the war against us.
        Do not scare us with "world isolation" - there is a map of the panel on the network with the marked countries of this "whole world", you know - not impressed tongue some kind of "whole world" is small against the background of the whole World.
  3. siberalt
    siberalt 23 February 2018 10: 30
    +5
    Petagon's headache. Something must be bombed, but they cannot come up with exactly what. belay
  4. helmi8
    helmi8 23 February 2018 10: 35
    +2
    At the same time, a representative of the American military department said that the Pentagon still has no information about the composition of the armed group that "launched the offensive."
    At the same time, White claims that the United States knew for sure that there were no Russian servicemen in the “attackers”.

    Bullshit, not a statement from the military. Well, what else can you expect from such a warrior? I would like to wish them only one thing - more often, beat on your own ...
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 23 February 2018 11: 24
      +1
      The Pentagon still does not have information about the composition of the armed group that "carried out the offensive."
      At the same time, White claims that the United States knew for sure that there were no Russian servicemen in the “attackers”.


      What is this cognitive dissonance - “we know that we know that we do not know”?
  5. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 February 2018 10: 42
    0
    In general, they have an order with their heads, publicly carry such nonsense? Or they have a purely stray dog, the reflex barks first, and then looks at someone! If for them bambizhki is an end in itself, so let them bomb their army, why fly far?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 February 2018 11: 17
      +3
      Not. They characterize "hostile forces" and they don’t care who the Syrians, Africans, Martians are.

      They are guided by the Chef's instruction "If you threaten us, this will be your longest and worst day." - James Mattis Puts America's Enemies On Notice - 'If You Threaten Us, It Will Be Your Longest and Worst Day'
  6. K-50
    K-50 23 February 2018 10: 43
    0
    Even today we do not know exactly who was in the squad.

    So only pin dosniki are fighting. They strike, but for whom they cannot understand. Therefore, it is not surprising that the number of civilians killed is many times greater than the damage done to the opposing side.
    Burn you all in Hell, killers !!!! am
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 23 February 2018 15: 20
      +2
      For the sake of development, didn’t you try to read the memories of the Afghans? For one shot from the side of the village they were leveled up to the ground especially not understanding. Such cases were not uncommon. They can’t be blamed for this, in war as in war. everyone is the same. that of ours, that of the striped. but for some reason everyone’s burns out only then the mattresses do this, and ours has a righteous goal. some double standards.
      1. Ural cossack
        Ural cossack 23 February 2018 20: 45
        0
        Have you been to Grozny?
    2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 23 February 2018 15: 53
      +3
      and Prigogine does not burn, he is not a killer, yeah
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 23 February 2018 10: 47
    +2
    It was in 1991. I wrote out a Russian newspaper then, but she arrived late. And here is the memorable August 19th. I get a newspaper talking about the upcoming coup. And the newspaper is for August 14th. I mean, why this article, when everything is clear to everyone. And the Americans, well done that they don’t recognize, will suddenly come to power after Putin, some “inadequate” who will ask from America for the death of Russian people!
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 February 2018 10: 54
    0
    At least they didn’t ask the journalists, like it’s for sure we bombed someone there? Maybe they themselves, brought with them bombs and that ??? fool
  9. Altona
    Altona 23 February 2018 11: 01
    +2
    Quote: Muvka
    I do not blame. But blaming amers is somehow not quite right.

    --------------------------------------
    No need to do all-forgiveness and sweatshirt. AMERICANS ARE GUILTY ALWAYS! THEY ARE UNLAWFUL THERE! THERE SHOULD BE PRESSED THERE! And these miserable remarks from the Pentagon suggest that the US military should be kicked and tackled on all fronts, and most importantly on information. Whoever died there cannot be returned and it is useless to regret it.
    1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 23 February 2018 15: 54
      +2
      crush weak, do not you think?
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 23 February 2018 18: 29
        +2
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
        crush weak, do not you think?


        Does it seem to you? Be baptized. The crush works with good quality.

        And this is work on the American uproots of the multinational spill that were thrown to East Guta.
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 23 February 2018 18: 46
          +1
          Quote: Lelek
          And this is work on the American uproots of the multinational spill that were thrown to East Guta.

          Are those those that don’t touch? hi
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 23 February 2018 18: 50
            +2
            Quote: You Vlad
            Are those those that don’t touch?

            hi
            And how do we know - "sia" or "no way." Purely American. bully
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 23 February 2018 18: 55
              +1
              Quote: Lelek
              And how do we know - "sia" or "no way."

              Well, to whom else to put them in the countryman request Americans are bombing everyone else willingly insolently or modestly: we missed request
        2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
          Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 23 February 2018 20: 30
          0
          are Kurds already in Damascus? :)
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 24 February 2018 14: 48
            0
            Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
            are Kurds already in Damascus? :)


            Ramsa beguiled. Kurds have been in Tbilisi since 1889. The people are fragmented and having permanent residence in all the countries of the Middle East and the Caucasus. Learn the materiel. yes
  10. groks
    groks 23 February 2018 11: 04
    +3
    The Americans know that it is not their military or their allies, they asked ours and received information that ours were not there either. On the rest of the USA do not care.
    So a very good statement, good for them. "You do what you want, but we will not give up your territory." And absolutely do not care that this territory is in another country. Well done.
    But ours either knew and threw the group to a deliberate death, or we have a traditional mess and there is no interaction with something like our PMC. I would be very glad to refute these options.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 February 2018 11: 26
      +7
      1) The operation nominally went through the Syrians, with ISIS Hunters, local units, as well as local militias. That is, it is quite possible to find out who the Syrians are there? OK. That is, the information was either distorted or hidden on the spot, or misunderstood. Also here, perhaps, the role of the new command played, which could not penetrate into the intricacies at the level of reinforcements for the Syrian forces.

      2) The operation was conceived. Go into denial. With the expectation that a strong and well-equipped squad of Syrians (ISIS Hunters - they have good preparation and equipment, up to all kinds of teplaks), supported by armored vehicles, several M-30 batteries, and also reinforced by Russians, will be able to break the SDF resistance extremely fast, take the factory and all. Smooth bribes - the militia and the Syrian troops liberated the plant on its territory. There will be a stench against the diplomatic background, but the factory has been squeezed. However, they did not expect the Americans to work them out so quickly.
      1. groks
        groks 23 February 2018 13: 05
        0
        1. So there is no interaction with the Syrians.
        2. It can be a test of the USA for decisiveness. Checked however.
    2. demo
      demo 23 February 2018 12: 47
      +1
      But ours either knew and threw the group to a deliberate death, or we have a traditional mess and there is no interaction with something like our PMC. I would be very glad to refute these options.

      First.
      How many of us know for certain something other than scant guesses about the "Wagner group"?
      Who is this?
      What is this?
      Why is that?
      Are there any answers? There are no answers.
      Reasons for the presence of our citizens (not military personnel)?
      Maybe there is.
      Is there reason to volunteer?
      Some are weak.
      Subordination to which command is primary?
      To the one who invited and pays money.
      If not we recruited volunteers, then they are invited by the Syrians. Or by their authorized entities.
      Where to go and “whom to fight” is an order.
      I didn’t fulfill it - I left home (at best) without money.

      Could those who invited, solve someone's mercantile interests?
      Could.
      And those who were defendant in these interests (some property owners) could be affiliated with the Kurds and through them with the Americans?
      Could.
      Oil is the most stable currency.
      Everyone needs money.
      So the Americans, benefiting from the protection of the Kurds (which means oil supplies), fulfilled their obligations.
      Drive away all who interfere with the business of the wards.
      Have we forgotten our 90s?

      The life of a mercenary is worthless.
      Russian or not Russian he.
      A mercenary is fighting for money.
      That is his plan.
      Sorry for the people. Especially ours. But maybe it was worth going to work as a janitor, for 30-40 rubles.
      We’d stay alive.
      And so the state, having modestly eyes, recognized through gritted teeth.
      And neither honor nor honor.
      1. groks
        groks 23 February 2018 13: 09
        +1
        Kurds Sechin leaked so much money that all Kurds must rush about in the desert, catch all the Russians and kiss them in the ass.
        But maybe it was worth going to work as a janitor, for 30-40 rubles

        Leading in the defense industry - 25. Maybe I, too, a janitor?
        1. demo
          demo 23 February 2018 13: 13
          +1
          There are people whom it is written in the family to work with the head, and there are those who work with their hands.
          Whoever is better at what happens is what he does.
          If you are successful in the defense industry, then continue to work there.
          If you feel dissatisfaction, then you can change the place of work.
          Hands you cards.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 February 2018 11: 13
    +4
    Now they can talk. Only the "wild geese" are not whipping boys. And the score must be equalized.
    But the fact that they work "without coordination ..." is an obvious mistake. For which they "raked" ...
    1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 23 February 2018 15: 57
      +1
      I bet they don’t equalize? :)
  12. flicker
    flicker 23 February 2018 11: 37
    +2
    Pentagon: We do not know who was hit in the valley of the Euphrates, but certainly not at the Russian Armed Forces
    Ping dos dances begin to strike.
  13. Berkut24
    Berkut24 23 February 2018 11: 38
    +2
    Yes, everything would be quiet and ended, as before. Uncontrolled self-propelled mercenaries died before that. But then someone decided to use this routine as a tool in the elections against the current government. And then it turned out that the Americans in Syria are not psychologically ready to clash with the Russians, and the current government has shown that it will not be responsible for the actions of those of its citizens who do not play abroad according to its rules. It is time to put an end to this story and begin to relate to the situation soberly and without unnecessary emotions.
  14. Under the dome
    Under the dome 23 February 2018 11: 41
    +3
    How can you strike at the RF Armed Forces if they are not there.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 23 February 2018 11: 50
      +2
      Quote: Under the dome
      How can you strike at the RF Armed Forces if they are not there.

      Where not
      1. Under the dome
        Under the dome 23 February 2018 11: 51
        +2
        In Syria, no.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 23 February 2018 12: 39
          +1
          Quote: Under the dome
          In Syria, no.

          Do such names say anything to you - Tartus, Hmeimim?
        2. Galaxy
          Galaxy 23 February 2018 13: 14
          +7
          That's right, ours said that "they are not there," the Americans gave the answer: "ok, it seemed to us!" and with a clear conscience destroyed a hundred "invisible" Russian fighters.
          And who is to blame for this situation ???
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 February 2018 11: 51
      +7
      We have an official position "They are not there"
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 23 February 2018 12: 16
        +10
        "Under the dome" no longer pour, wimp. smile
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 23 February 2018 14: 48
          +4
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          "Under the dome" no longer pour, wimp.

          But he doesn’t need to - this is Rabinovich’s back. Well, at least it will not be boring. yes
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 23 February 2018 17: 35
          +4
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          "Under the dome" no longer pour, wimp. smile

          Quote: Galaxy
          with a clear conscience, they destroyed a hundred "invisible" Russian fighters.

          Do you say these words in person to Andrei Troshev? I will not envy you afterwards.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 23 February 2018 12: 40
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        We have an official position "They are not there"

        Who is not that? Mercenaries? Or the Russian Armed Forces?
    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 23 February 2018 16: 48
      +7
      Quote: Under the dome
      ... How can you strike at the Russian Armed Forces if they are not there ...

      Exactly the same as a caliber strike was launched against terrorists entrenched in the Dar Ezza area, in the western part of Aleppo, not far from Mount Saman. Subsequently, it turned out that they had demolished the focal point with the terrorists, in which the Merin and Israeli "ichtamnets" worked in sweat. request
      The only difference is that our "ichtamnets" officially entered the country yes
      Those that were destroyed in the Dar Ezza area - like thieves, climbed into the window negative
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 23 February 2018 17: 49
        0
        But what, did they find the bodies ??? or the form and photo is ???? or is it from a reliable source such as one grandmother said ???? if there is verified information I will be grateful if you share it.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 23 February 2018 18: 08
          +7
          Quote: Korax71
          ... But what, did they find the bodies ???

          Yes, it’s not a question, I'm sitting and thinking what to do, then ?!
          Wait, now I’ll throw off my slippers and break myself!
          By the way, about whose bodies are you interested in - grandmothers or Barmalei ones?
          Do you need to send the numbers of advisor tokens in VO or send by mail?
          What does “verified information” mean in your phrase? Not tested around?
          I would be very grateful to you a colleague, if you still said something on the topic of the article, and did not slurp a bunch of question marks.
          PS "Tyrnet" to help, dearhi
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 23 February 2018 19: 32
          +4
          Quote: Korax71
          What bodies found

          Whose bodies and who were not found? negative
          Quote: Korax71
          Is there a form and photo?

          If you can provide a
          if share.

          Your spelling.
      2. Morrrow
        Morrrow 23 February 2018 20: 31
        0
        Can I proof? And then some kind of fantasy.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 23 February 2018 20: 50
          +7
          Quote: Morrrow
          ... Is it possible to proof? And then some kind of fantasy ...

          Of course you can yes
          The keyboard is in front of you.
          So that it doesn’t seem fiction - at least bother to read, and not to “proofs” through a comment, to demand yourself.
          1. Morrrow
            Morrrow 23 February 2018 21: 09
            0
            There is no confirmation of this. Do not drive fakes.
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 23 February 2018 21: 35
              +7
              Quote: Morrrow
              ... There is no confirmation of this. Do not drive fakes ...

              You are not provided with the training manual.
              Typical troll behavior - in the absence of arguments, begin to hysteria.
              Teach materiel wink
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 23 February 2018 11: 48
    +1
    From Dana White's statement:
    We still do not know exactly who was in the lineup today. Therefore, we are not going to speculate on both the composition and the intentions.

    Americans sometimes behave so strangely. On the one hand, they invest billions of dollars in advertising of super weapons, satellites, drones, all-weather devices. And on the other hand, representatives of their department always refute the performance characteristics of these new products with their statements. This is especially evident when Americans bomb schools or hospitals and here, by coincidence, bombed someone’s column, well, well, paradox
    1. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
      Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 23 February 2018 15: 59
      +3
      did the Americans need to get scared and run away? :) You would get a PMC, show them there :)
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 24 February 2018 16: 41
        +1
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
        did the Americans need to get scared and run away? :)

        Just do not make stupid statements and it will be enough.
        Quote: Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
        You would get a PMC, show them there

        I have already shown everything that I could, now is your time
    2. Morrrow
      Morrrow 23 February 2018 20: 32
      0
      Have you ever thought that schools and hospitals can also be a military target?
  16. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 23 February 2018 11: 48
    +3
    They know perfectly what they are doing. They bend their line hard, which we are not allowed to.
  17. aiki.ik
    aiki.ik 23 February 2018 11: 51
    +7
    Our betrayed ours. That's all.
  18. Esoteric
    Esoteric 23 February 2018 12: 18
    +1
    I sleep and see a message from the representative of the command of the Russian Aerospace Forces:
    We know who was hit in the area (coordinates or the name of the area), and we know for sure that these were illegal, anti-government armed groups located there without the permission of the ATS government.
    1. Galaxy
      Galaxy 23 February 2018 13: 21
      +7
      it is only in your dreams.
      And the leadership and the children study for the "cordon", the wives shop in boutiques, and the money is in the "enemy" banks.
  19. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 23 February 2018 12: 31
    0
    Convenient position. We must take into service. Bomb ov wherever you are, and then say "Well, we did not know that they were there"
    1. Nikolai Passerby
      Nikolai Passerby 23 February 2018 15: 41
      +6
      Quote: Geisenberg
      We must take into service

      So go ahead with the songs! On the combat couch - on the attack! Urrryayaaa !!!!!
  20. samarin1969
    samarin1969 23 February 2018 13: 05
    +6
    The territory with which "certain goals" were advanced against the CONOCO plant is formally controlled by the CAA and their allies. All statements of the Russian Federation about the anonymous owners of PMC armies that conduct independent combat operations cause distrust among citizens of the Russian Federation and laughter abroad.
    ps Judging by the pause and form of the American statement, the "partners" had to coordinate this "diplomatic fog" with the Russian Federation for a long time.
  21. Nikolai Passerby
    Nikolai Passerby 23 February 2018 14: 01
    +9
    Everyone knew everything ... Americans used the situation to their advantage. Once "ichtamnet", then no. And there are no complaints ... They all smashed all the "ichtamnets" to smithereens so that they no longer tried to be self-willed ... That's how people pay with their blood for all sorts of cunning plans and other many-steps "rowers in galleys". And the “rowers” ​​wanted to prove themselves cool, but after the lesson taught by the Americans, as usual, they shut up in the bushes - “I'm not me, and the hut is not mine” ...
    1. Galaxy
      Galaxy 23 February 2018 14: 15
      +3
      Reminded.
      "Petka and Chapaev are hiding from the whites in the well. The whites come and look into the well:
      “Is there anyone here?”
      “Is there anyone here?” - echoes Petka.
      “Maybe there is nobody here?”
      “Maybe there is nobody here?” - comes from the well.
      - Or maybe throw a grenade?
      “Why, because there’s nobody here !?”
      -------------------------------------------------
      Our leadership did not find it necessary to say the last phrase because of "greatness."
      1. Nikolai Passerby
        Nikolai Passerby 23 February 2018 15: 26
        +7
        Quote: Galaxy
        Our leadership did not find it necessary to say the last phrase because of "greatness."

        The leadership has long been bronzed by its own "greatness" ... Yes, and the "society" of the roofing felts has not matured, the roofing felts are overripe. No parliamentary commission. no journalistic investigations. Only on the Internet are the screams of paid Kremlin bots and free ... (stupid people) - "You FSE are lying, urrryaaa!"
  22. Guillon
    Guillon 23 February 2018 17: 03
    0
    The trouble is that the United States indiscriminately urinates everyone in a row! am It's time to take note! hi
  23. Slovak
    Slovak 23 February 2018 20: 47
    0
    The reason to break up the base of mattress covers and declare in the same spirit "we did not know who was there"
  24. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 24 February 2018 05: 01
    0
    Prosirian !!! it seems to be already like not ours - that they make money !!!
  25. Monarchist
    Monarchist 24 February 2018 07: 37
    +1
    “we are not going to speculate as about the composition, SO ABOUT INTENTIONS”, but why then did they strike?
  26. FLOOD
    FLOOD 24 February 2018 11: 41
    0
    [/ quote] Pentagon: We don’t know who they attacked in the Euphrates Valley, but certainly not the RF Armed Forces [quote]

    Type it was not the troops, but so, in whom we want in that and bullet))
  27. FLOOD
    FLOOD 24 February 2018 11: 45
    0
    Quote: donavi49
    No, their official version is from the general - commander of the operation.
    in a few days they revealed the accumulation of forces (in the original last week - hit on Wednesday night) - and the Russians called on the regular channel, to the center of the monitoring. They recalled that American soldiers and their allies from the SDF are on Koniko. And they asked to take measures to prevent incidents with detected forces.

    Contacts were several times before the events.

    When the attack went on (in the original a detachment the size of a battalion with support for tanks and artillery located deep in the territory of the Syrian army) - they called the red telephone and asked why you are attacking us? Is it yours? They answered no.

    As a result, "unidentified hostile forces" were smashed by all available forces and means.


    Why, having learned - that they opened the preparation and then said no? Versions essentially 2:
    - loss of control, that is, they really missed the point, did not report, the Syrians from ISIS Hunters (through whom the operation was carried out) concealed. Perhaps here the role of the new command played, which did not delve into the matter - specified, are these our soldiers? Not? Well, okay.
    - a tricky plan. A sharp and quick blow to pick up Koniko, knocking out the Kurds and the Americans. Well, and then to hang Syrian flags, the Americans will not bomb the plant, boxing will begin by correspondence through the UN and diplomats, and then the factory has been repelled. That is, they simply didn’t calculate that the Americans would work right from the wheels, perhaps they thought that there was no separate American TACP, only the SDF and the US nominal representatives, that is, they could not organize a normal pick-up, as the same general said, the Air Force TACP sat and did great job.

    Armenian Internet users are delighted that the American general of Armenian descent, Jeffrey Arigian (all the same Jeffrey Harrigian), as they believe, killed the Russians in Syria. Moreover, they send wishes to the Armenian General: “God bless you!” Comments here, as they say, are unnecessary. wink
  28. Nikolay Fedorov
    Nikolay Fedorov 24 February 2018 13: 45
    +1
    Quote: from article
    According to White, the decision to strike was made urgently - when American forces and "allies" saw "movement in their position of a mechanized column."

    It sounds too arrogant deceitfully ("on impudent deceit" can probably be expressed in one word - "American") - given the number and composition of weapons and equipment used to strike at the convoy, including strategic B-52 bombers. They are certainly not call aircraft, or they are on that day, February 7th. ACCIDENTALLY flew nearby? laughing
  29. Hiller
    Hiller 25 February 2018 20: 45
    +1
    And who of the command planned and organized the flights? By what request did they "charge"? And that the "advanced aircraft pilot" was not present in the battle formations of the infantry? An interesting "movie" in the mattresses. And ours is something "muddy."
  30. Dukat22
    Dukat22 26 February 2018 19: 45
    0
    It is necessary to use the truce competently, not like in the Donbass. For 3 years, dill has been prepared and many confirm it. And Donbass has weakened, 3 years of the trench warfare. Many left, others dispersed, little money. If we went further in the 15th, we would have freed at least the entire Donbass long ago. And there in Syria until they agree on who the terrorists are, no truces are needed. These gangs are easily renamed, the fact that Nusra (or the other, I get confused in barmaley) is an Alkaid, only Americans are foreseeable. But there are documents that they are almost a moderate opposition, which means allies. On this, all truces and agreements break down. Some wash their hands, others rot in the ground, among them our people.
    Regarding the attack on PMCs, America brazenly lies. So we don’t know by whom they beat. But certainly not according to Russian. Yes, with artillery, helicopters and airplanes. They saw a small detachment through binoculars. They wanted to kill everyone and end up in the water.