USA: Eliminated electronic vulnerability of new air-to-surface missiles

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Management of the American company Lockheed Martin commented on the reports on work on the elimination of previously identified defects in the creation of air-to-surface missiles. We are talking about a rocket, which is designed to eventually replace another rocket in service - AGM-114 Hellfire. A new rocket of the JAGM project (air-to-surface with the principle “made launch and forget”) is first of all planned to equip American helicopters of the Bell family, as well as AH-64 Apache.

When testing a new missile, a number of technical problems were found near the ammunition. One of the main problems was the possibility of intercepting the control of the missile in flight as a result of electronic interference. During testing, a vulnerability was discovered that allowed us to divert missiles from a detected target or point to another target.



In addition, problems were identified in the missile control system itself. During test launches of missiles from an AH-64E Apache helicopter, problems were identified with the accuracy of hitting targets. The reason was that the rocket control system determined the speed of the target with an impressive error.

USA: Eliminated electronic vulnerability of new air-to-surface missiles


Now experts at Lockheed Martin argue that after the modifications carried out, the latest American rocket is free from basic technical and software problems. It is noted that in the coming months it will be put into service with the American army.
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  1. +4
    23 February 2018 09: 38
    Only military reconciliation will show its effectiveness or, conversely, inefficiency.
    1. +1
      23 February 2018 09: 41
      Well, yes, they would give ours in Syria a try!
      1. +3
        23 February 2018 09: 46
        Quote: dog breeder
        Well, yes, they would give ours in Syria a try!

        They themselves can try.
        1. +5
          23 February 2018 10: 01
          Ours will try to control their missiles
          1. +4
            23 February 2018 10: 10
            Eliminated electronic vulnerability of new air-to-surface missiles

            Then I look at how many peaceful victims in BV .. Not guilty yayayayaya (USA))))
        2. +3
          23 February 2018 10: 12
          they can try it themselves.
          With all due respect to you, because you often objectively assess the situation in your comments, you can only say one thing - we'll see.
        3. +7
          23 February 2018 10: 12
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: dog breeder
          Well, yes, they would give ours in Syria a try!

          They themselves can try.

          Aron is tearing the throat again for the USA ..? he he (no offense)
          Happy holiday to you the Day of the Soviet Army! soldier
    2. +6
      23 February 2018 10: 16
      Everyone who remembers the weight of tarpaulin boots, those who knew the army restaurant with long benches and aluminum tanks, who counted circles of oil before the demobilization, to whom the overcoat was both a tablecloth and a house for the holiday !!!
    3. 0
      24 February 2018 19: 03
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Only military reconciliation will show its effectiveness or, conversely, inefficiency.


      Good trials can simulate any combat situation.
  2. +4
    23 February 2018 09: 40
    Actually, theoretically, there are no missiles that are perfectly protected from interception! If they found one vulnerability, then we will find two more!
    1. +1
      23 February 2018 09: 48
      But for this we need to get them.
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Actually, theoretically, there are no missiles that are perfectly protected from interception! If they found one vulnerability, then we will find two more!
      1. 0
        24 February 2018 10: 32
        Yes, it seems already got it, in Cuba I remember ...
      2. +2
        24 February 2018 13: 45
        Quote: 210ox
        But for this we need to get them.

        With the past drinks
        sometimes video (especially in high resolution and slow motion) tests can give a lot and talk about some features.
        like the same AGM-114 Hellfire.
  3. 0
    23 February 2018 09: 44
    Universal fucking turned out
    The JAGM rocket is designed to replace the existing systems AGM-114L Hellfire Longbow, XGM-71 TOW, AGM-65 Maverick and is characterized by greater efficiency, range, operational flexibility, high level of support at a lower cost compared to prototypes.
    -taken from http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/jagm/ja
    gm.shtml

    And what about us?
    1. +1
      23 February 2018 09: 57
      Quote: AntiFREEZ
      Universal fucking turned out
      The JAGM rocket is designed to replace the existing systems AGM-114L Hellfire Longbow, XGM-71 TOW, AGM-65 Maverick and is characterized by greater efficiency, range, operational flexibility, high level of support at a lower cost compared to prototypes.
      -taken from http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/jagm/ja
      gm.shtml

      And what about us?

      And we have Hephaestus. Which targets bombs made in 1940 as homing in a circle of 5 meters. Which is much more powerful and cheaper than this thing.
      1. 0
        23 February 2018 14: 12
        Quote: Vkd dvk
        And we have Hephaestus.

        It's sarcasm? Well then, yes, we have Hephaestus wassat
        1. 0
          23 February 2018 16: 18
          Quote: AntiFREEZ
          Quote: Vkd dvk
          And we have Hephaestus.

          It's sarcasm? Well then, yes, we have Hephaestus wassat

          There are different methods for achieving different tasks. Screw in screws and twist nails with a screwdriver. How do you prefer? What is so wonderful piece of iron with a radius of 48km? And with a warhead weight of 66 kg?
      2. +1
        23 February 2018 18: 30
        Quote: Vkd dvk
        homing in a circle of 5 meters

        From a height of 100 meters, it may be so. And from a height of 5 km? And from what wonder will the dropped FAB be more accurate than the CAB?
        1. +3
          23 February 2018 19: 06
          Quote: Mimoprohodil
          Quote: Vkd dvk
          homing in a circle of 5 meters

          From a height of 100 meters, it may be so. And from a height of 5 km? And from what wonder will the dropped FAB be more accurate than the CAB?

          The capabilities of Russian aviation are explained by SITREP technology, which is used by the electronics of bombers and attack aircraft. Specialized computing subsystem (SVP-24) analyzes data on the position of the aircraft and the target, atmospheric pressure, wind speed and direction, dozens of other parameters and gives the optimal point of bomb drop. The technology works so well that from a height of six kilometers, ammunition deviates from targets by four meters. 6000 meters is the working height of the Russian airborne air forces in Syria, inaccessible to portable anti-aircraft systems that are in service with the militants of the Islamic State * (ISIS, ISIS) and other numerous groups.
          You can send a protest here: https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/140026/
          1. +1
            23 February 2018 22: 25
            Why do I need an Austrian murzilka ?. Designers write that with Hephaestus the bombs became 4-8 times more accurate. The military, which is in 3 https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130528/939850732.
            html And an example of accuracy in military acceptance. 4 meters from a height of 6 km does not smell there
            1. 0
              24 February 2018 11: 53
              Quote: Mimoprohodil
              Why do I need an Austrian murzilka ?. Designers write that with Hephaestus the bombs became 4-8 times more accurate. The military, which is in 3 https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130528/939850732.
              html And an example of accuracy in military acceptance. 4 meters from a height of 6 km does not smell there

              To be careful, it says MORE THAN .... This is one. The second one. The military writes, he, by definition, leaves himself a slack, so he does not admit that MORE, THAN is 5, and 8 ..... Third. It’s not the designers who taught the brick cleaning, but the very ones ..... By the nature of my activity, I trust my colleagues who declare EXACT hit parameters, which are undoubtedly taken not from calculation formulas, but from practice.
  4. +4
    23 February 2018 09: 45
    Now Lockheed Martin experts claim that after the completion of the latest American missile spared the main technical and software problems
    Every sandpiper praises its swamp ... In my opinion, the cost of the rocket will increase significantly, but the real effectiveness is unknown ... And if there are leaks, that in the particular case the new rockets are not better than the old ones, they will claim that the old modification was used ...
    1. +5
      23 February 2018 09: 54
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      And if there are leaks, that in a particular case the new missiles are no better than the old ones, they will claim that the old modification was used ...

      Mattresses can lay straws under a soft spot. wink The article does not say a word about missile tests after troubleshooting. And on paper to fight mattresses.
      1. +4
        23 February 2018 10: 17
        soldier All a Happy Holiday!
        Hi Pash hi
        ... on paper to fight mattresses much more.

        ... and in the movies. The rocket is not ready yet .... Ponty only ...
        (JAGM) is an American military air-to-surface missile development program to replace the current air-based bgm-71 TOU missiles, AGM-114 Hellfire missiles and Maverick missiles AGM-65. The US Army, Navy and Marine Corps are planning to buy thousands of JAGMs.
        Type Air-to-surface missile
        Manufacturer Lockheed Martin
        Production; expected in 2018
        Weight 108 lbs (49 kg)
        Length 70 in (1800 mm)
        Diameter 7 in (180 mm)
        Range: 5 miles (8.0 km)
        guidance system: semi-active laser and millimeter wave radar
        Helicopter and Aircraft Launch

        Wiki ///
        Aug 2016 year
        1. +3
          23 February 2018 10: 20
          Sanya, hello and Happy Holiday! soldier drinks
          Quote: san4es
          ... and in the movies. The rocket is not ready yet.

          USA - famous rush. lol
          1. +3
            23 February 2018 10: 22
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            ... USA - famous rush. lol

            laughing ... Toro-pussy - by theirs
            1. +3
              23 February 2018 10: 30
              And do not name them in what language - the essence of this does not change. Yes
        2. +3
          23 February 2018 13: 31
          And here is the radio interception and jamming? Judging by the picture, this rocket has an optical guidance head. Avionics resting
        3. 0
          23 February 2018 14: 10
          Quote: san4es
          Weight 108 lbs (49 kg)
          Length 70 in (1800 mm)
          Diameter 7 in (180 mm)
          Range: 5 miles (8.0 km)

          It’s strange. I have other range data.
          Performance characteristics
          Length, mm 1800
          Case Diameter, mm 178
          Wingspan, mm 325
          Weight, kg 48.9
          Maximum range, km 28 (16 for helicopter)
          1. 0
            23 February 2018 14: 20
            request ... Well this is "Well I-Net ..

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Air-to-Ground
            _Missile
        4. +1
          23 February 2018 21: 08
          Well, it’s so far they don’t peck the dough so that for every donkey a rocket will throw bucks at a dohliard bucket. And what will they do when China moves them? The Second World War showed - the economy in the war is the second most important thing after the Spirit of soldiers. the "wonderful" Tiger and the more so, "Tiger-2" still did not save Germany. Their next generation jet aircraft - did not lead to the conquest of the sky, which also accelerated their defeat. negative Remember our "rusty" and "cotton" PTR, in fact - this is the weapon of "last hope", for a "civilized man" this is not applicable and generally "savage", but they played a role in the defeat of Germany. Yes, what is Germany - Posmtrina in the Donbass, there even now in the 21st century belay they are more than used. There are no such "cheap" solutions that do not become "waffle-offs", but a big Victory comes from small victories. good
          I want to remind you that the same mattresses have more than half of the "suddenly" shabby "axes" the devil knows where to go, and the EU in the war against Libya - in general, has exhausted its ammunition in two weeks. negative
  5. +3
    23 February 2018 09: 55
    If there is an exchange on the radio channel ... then everything is a matter of time ... And they still have everything tied to the satellite ... so that's not a question ...
  6. +1
    23 February 2018 10: 29
    USA: Eliminated electronic vulnerability of new air-to-surface missiles

    Can Israel go to the cashier and pay?
  7. +3
    23 February 2018 10: 40
    It is impossible to eliminate the vulnerability of ammunition with external target designation. You can reduce, but eliminate and protect from interference in any way. request
    1. +2
      23 February 2018 11: 47
      So this missile has a triple homing head - the system is well protected from interference.
      1. 0
        24 February 2018 12: 14
        Quote: Vadim237
        So this missile has a triple homing head - the system is well protected from interference.

        Go back to the beginning. The radius of achieving the goal is 48km. Dot. This distance is covered by not so sophisticated air defense.
        1. 0
          24 February 2018 17: 37
          But this distance does not cover small air defense. Or do you think it is better to fly to the Shell or Thor with missiles with a range of 7-11 km?
  8. 0
    23 February 2018 10: 52
    and who told him about it, a simple PR not confirmed by facts
  9. +3
    23 February 2018 10: 54
    Either the armor hurts, then the tail falls off!
    Kanechno battle, kanechno against a real enemy. otherwise, blah blah. The guys are manufacturers of the master, of course, but as it happens - they said one thing, but it didn’t fly where.
    1. +2
      23 February 2018 11: 48
      In the United States, rockets can do well - especially anti-tank missiles.
      1. +1
        23 February 2018 16: 03
        Yes, there are already many, and many in the world are making high-quality, effective murder weapons!
        The Yankees have a lot of positions on this!
        This is basically so. But let’s be objective, “maid in USA” for a long time is no longer an indicator that this is the best in the world, no indicator that everything will work as in advertising.
        1. +1
          23 February 2018 19: 40
          However, TOW 2A in Syria works fine and makes tanks in 90% of hits unsuitable for further use.
          1. +1
            23 February 2018 20: 56
            ATGMs are no longer a novelty; the rocket is being modernized and that’s it. The classic case, the target is changing, the target is being modernized, and the weapon is being modernized. Its characteristics are not better than others.
            Most of the benefits of Yankee weapons are mass production backed up by an aggressive policy of controlling arms sales in the world.
            1. +3
              23 February 2018 21: 01
              By the way, look at the statistics of how many armored vehicles in the world have been destroyed by Yankee weapons, and how much the topic is RPG 7 and many clones of our weapons !!! This is not advertising chatter, but the real truth of war!
              1. +1
                23 February 2018 23: 46
                And how many people died from stab wounds ... only this does not mean that the knife is more effective than the same Javelin. "Bosota" is fighting what it can. Adult uncles have expensive toys they can afford.
                1. +1
                  24 February 2018 10: 46
                  And fluff and feathers fly from these adult uncles, or they themselves are faster than their squeal, when a motivated "barefoot" naughty at them from their karamultuk!
                  Ali doesn’t happen like that?
              2. +1
                24 February 2018 19: 32
                Quote: rocket757
                This is not advertising chatter, but the real truth of war!


                Not advertising chatter, this is the presence of a wide assortment of 4th generation ATGMs (assaults, shot-forgotten) in NATO countries, against which there is no protection on Russian tanks. And on the other hand, at the moment, an attempt to destroy a modern tank using a 3rd generation ATGM (Cornet, TOU and the like) with laser guidance can lead to the destruction of the calculation. Laser radiation sensors transmit data on the exact direction and distance of the beam source to the OMS in a fraction of a second, the commander confirms the target (in the same fractions of a second, if he wants to live), the turret and gun are sent towards the target, the gunner screams ready, the commander is pli .. This happens in a few seconds, everything is faster than the ATGM will reach the tank, or maybe even have time to start. The system in general is not as complicated as the KAZ with its 3 contour radars and interception systems, the laser radiation sensors are already on all modern tanks for firing grenades with a smoke curtain, now the radiation source itself is also determined by shrapnel / grenade projectile, of which the last years gained, the calculation is destroyed. At the moment, such a system stands precisely with the Jews, as the Americans and Germans are doing, I’m not sure I know that they have such systems.
                1. +1
                  24 February 2018 20: 05
                  He wrote, the confrontation of means of attack and defense at the endless race of someone.
                  The most primitive RPG 7 also removes the bloody harvest on the battlefield! Deshov, affordable, easy to handle and effective in certain situations. It all depends on the commanders, both. Some have the goal of trapping the enemy and destroying the available means of destruction. Others do not get into a situation where all the technical excellence of your equipment is not worth a damn.
                  Such a war, consider the linear, classical confrontation not. There is a struggle between the design mind and the skill of commanders / fighters on the battlefield!
                  The designers are losing, absolutely protected armored vehicles do not exist.
    2. 0
      23 February 2018 20: 47
      And can you show the combat use of the S-400, for example, either the S-300, or the Su-27?
      1. +1
        24 February 2018 10: 50
        Normal huh?
        The combat use of all of the above, in our case, will be the beginning of the end of the world white, most likely!
        Do not!
      2. +2
        24 February 2018 12: 21
        Quote: Morrrow
        And can you show the combat use of the S-400, for example, either the S-300, or the Su-27?

        But do they not test the test sites? Skeet doesn’t instruct, do you want to be implored in and proved in such a way?
        1. +1
          24 February 2018 18: 19
          Recent military conflicts make it possible to really evaluate the effectiveness, performance characteristics of some types of weapons, too, it’s scary, but it doesn’t draw on a global conflict.
          Let it remain so. Send the world to tartarara, the prospect is terrible. Let serious such weapons be tortured at the training grounds, it’s enough.
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  11. 0
    23 February 2018 20: 46
    Is the hellfire already outdated?
    1. 0
      23 February 2018 23: 38
      Yes, it seems.
  12. 0
    24 February 2018 12: 17
    Hopes of lesbians nourish! Let them dream! laughing tongue wassat
    1. 0
      24 February 2018 23: 00
      It’s very funny - but the crews of tanks and other armored vehicles will be bitter - these missiles will smash everything to smithereens and no KAZ will save them.
  13. 0
    24 February 2018 22: 05
    let them think that they liquidated.
  14. 0
    27 February 2018 14: 43
    All as usual, give money! True, we now need to think how to get around invulnerability cheaper