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Russia has overtaken the PRC in gold reserves

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The gold reserve of Russia grew to 1 thousand. 857 tons, the country entered the 5 place in the world in this indicator, overtaking China, leads Look Post by Bloomberg.


Russia has overtaken the PRC in gold reserves


The volume of China's gold reserves is 1 thousand. 843 tons.

The first four lines of the rating are given to the United States (8 thousand 133 tons), Germany (3 thousand 374 tons), Italy (2 thousand 452 tons) and France (2 thousand 436 tons).

In addition, 2 thousand 814 t belongs to the International Monetary Fund.

As noted by the agency, "an increase in gold reserves allows Russia to diversify foreign exchange reserves amid deteriorating relations with the United States."

It is also reported that the Russian authorities are buying mainly gold mined in domestic mines.

According to the agency, Turkey is also actively increasing its gold reserves.

Earlier, the media wrote that if the cumulative gold reserves of Russia and China exceed the American one, the dollar will be in an “awkward position,” and the United States will be squeezed out in the global economy.
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 February 2018 13: 39
    +7
    Still to return imperial gold - we will be the first with a huge margin from all! hi
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 22 February 2018 13: 45
      +31
      ... The first four lines of the rating are given to the USA (8 thousand 133 tons), Germany (3 thousand 374 tons), Italy (2 thousand 452 tons) and France (2 thousand 436 tons) ...

      The first two participants of the rating are under a very big question ...
      The geldings pulled into Fort Knox all the gold assets that they could reach.
      Do they exist there now, and if so, in what quantity - no one knows.
      De Gaulle twisted his hands to the geldings, managed to pick it up.
      Not until a couple of years ago, these cheaters returned some “gold” to the Chinese - as a result, the Chinese, like that “Shura Balaganov”, sawed insoles and it turned out that they were the owners of a bunch of dummies.
      The Germans can’t get their gold out of there, they simply "dynamite".
      1. ALEX_SHTURMAN
        ALEX_SHTURMAN 22 February 2018 13: 50
        +5
        Exactly exactly what stocks are in Fort Knox are not known for certain. The Germans asked Washington to check their stocks, to which they were told: Sleep Wife all for a long time! ..))) wink
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 22 February 2018 15: 48
          +6
          if the combined gold reserves of Russia and China exceed the US, then the dollar will be in an "uncomfortable position",
          Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
          The Germans asked Washington to check their stocks, to which they were told: Sleep Wife all for a long time! ..

          That's what the Chinese were told! The latter doubted that their gold was in place!
          What for store their reserves in the camp of the enemy? Can they give their arsenals for conservation? fool
          1. ALEX_SHTURMAN
            ALEX_SHTURMAN 22 February 2018 16: 12
            +3
            Dear, and where did you see that I suggested storing supplies with the enemy? You are too serious and do not see the difference between sarcasm and affirmation .. Good luck laughing
            Your claims must be sent to Nabiulina, who continues to buy American government bonds ...
            1. Anarchist
              Anarchist 22 February 2018 16: 25
              +6
              Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
              Dear, and where did you see that I suggested storing supplies with the enemy?

              Man, you misunderstood me - I have no claims to you at all! I just shared my understanding of the problem ... And you quoted in order to show the situation of all those who keep "their wife in the custody of the neighbor." drinks
              1. ALEX_SHTURMAN
                ALEX_SHTURMAN 22 February 2018 16: 54
                +2
                Then you will excuse me drinks I misunderstood you ..
          2. dr.star75
            dr.star75 22 February 2018 20: 28
            +5
            But the Germans and no one asks where they should keep their gold. Germany is an occupied country, is under external control. Not as brazenly as Ukraine, but nonetheless ....
      2. bane's jacket
        bane's jacket 22 February 2018 13: 55
        +2
        Quote: Andrey K
        ... The first four lines of the rating are given to the USA (8 thousand 133 tons), Germany (3 thousand 374 tons), Italy (2 thousand 452 tons) and France (2 thousand 436 tons) ...

        The first two participants of the rating are under a very big question ...

        Do you have a big question?
        World Gold Reserves
        http://global-finances.ru/mirovyie-zolotyie-rezer
        vyi /

        And even they have no doubt
        Russia overtakes China in gold reserves - dollar dominance is in jeopardy
        http://eer.ru/a/article/u123259/2017/03/16/59193


        Quote: Andrey K

        The Germans can’t get their gold out of there, they simply "dynamite".

        Did you say that in Russia? repeat
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 22 February 2018 14: 04
          +15
          Quote: bane jacket
          ... According to the Rush, Did They say that? ...

          According to France Televisions - That, Frogs Tricked belay
          1. bane's jacket
            bane's jacket 22 February 2018 15: 22
            +2
            Quote: Andrey K
            Quote: bane jacket
            ... According to the Rush, Did They say that? ...

            According to France Televisions - That, Frogs Tricked belay

            Is there a link this time too? wink
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 22 February 2018 15: 30
              +15
              Quote: bane jacket
              ... Is there a link this time too? ...

              I won’t take your bread.
              You have flooded your entire comment with your links, then what?
              My dear, I’ve been learned in the USSR and do not suffer from the unified dependence on the availability of links.
              You need to know the materiel, not troll on the site wink
              1. bane's jacket
                bane's jacket 22 February 2018 15: 38
                +3
                Quote: Andrey K
                Quote: bane jacket
                ... Is there a link this time too? ...

                I won’t take your bread.
                I can send wink

                To send a simple business. But to confirm my words .... oh well, let's not talk about sad things (for you). bully
                1. Andrey K
                  Andrey K 22 February 2018 15: 42
                  +14
                  Quote: bane jacket
                  ... But confirm your words .... oh well, let's not talk about sad things (for you) ...

                  You messed up something lol
                  Someone signed up to confirm your words and walk on your links laughing
                  My dear, you extremely overestimate your significance, but oh well. I will not be sad (for you) bully
                  1. bane's jacket
                    bane's jacket 22 February 2018 15: 53
                    +2
                    Quote: Andrey K
                    Quote: bane jacket
                    ... But confirm your words .... oh well, let's not talk about sad things (for you) ...

                    You messed up something lol

                    "Dashing 90" does not erode?
                    Someone signed up to confirm your words and walk on your links

                    My words do not need to be confirmed. Unlike you, I will confirm them myself without sending the interlocutor to Google. You at least confirm your words.

                    - The Germans can’t get their gold out of there, they simply "dynamite".
                    - Did they say that in Russia?
                    - According to France Televisions - That, Frogs Tricked
                    - Is there a link this time too?
                    - I won’t take your bread. I can send
                    But what I especially liked:
                    My dear, I’ve been learned in the USSR and do not suffer from the unified dependence on the availability of links.
                    You need to know the materiel, not troll on the site

                    PS: Do not want you to be "troll" - do not write frank lies. hi
                    1. Andrey K
                      Andrey K 22 February 2018 16: 00
                      +14
                      Quote: bane jacket
                      ... PS: Do not want you to be "troll" ...

                      Listen, Bane's jacket.
                      The fact that you are a troll is already a no brainer, your recognition to me is parallel.
                      For the rest of the crap - comments from the comments, you will cling to the students.
                      PS About lies - it’s according to Freud, it’s a nerd wink
                    2. MOSKVITYANIN
                      MOSKVITYANIN 23 February 2018 19: 25
                      0
                      bane's jacket PS: Do not want you to be "troll" - do not write frank lies.

                      How do you talk to a senior in rank? He clearly told you that:
                      I was learned in the USSR and do not suffer from an unified dependence on the availability of links.

                      accordingly, in their opinion, they can lie here as much as you like, gee ....
                      However, in fairness:
                      The German gold reserve is greater than the reserve of Russia. According to this indicator, Germany de jure is in second place in the world after the United States. It is stated that Germany has about 3,38 thousand tons of gold. But Stern points to an important nuance: more than half of Germany’s gold reserves are stored in the United States. We are talking about 1,236 thousand tons.
                      Recall that Berlin has repeatedly urged the United States to transfer the German gold reserves to storage in Germany itself. However, in the USA every time they found a reason to keep the gold in Germany. This gives reason to suspect the United States that there has long been no German gold in American vaults. And Germany has no real opportunity to check the safety of its gold reserves overseas.

                      https://topwar.ru/134161-stern-u-germanii-bolshe-
                      zolotyh-zapasov-chem-u-rossii-no-oni-v-ssha.html
        2. V
          V 22 February 2018 14: 21
          +9
          I will outline in my own words, briefly.
          The Bretton Woods system was broken about the knee by Charles De Gaulle when he brought a "steamer" with green candy wrappers to the USA and, according to the agreement, exchanged them for gold. An international scandal occurred due to the fact that Fort Knox was devastated and the United States received an actual default. During this scandal, the Americans drove the warships, so as not to let the French "ship" stuffed with gold from their territorial waters. As a result, the French ship was released and Nixon in 1971, unilaterally, withdrew from this agreement. After that, Kissinger did not just ride around the Middle East and make arrangements with the Arabs to start trading oil for dollars. Thus, the dollar from the gold standard turned into black gold, and the Bretton Woods system flowed over the Jamaican.
          In summary, I will express my opinion that the United States, in fact, may not have the gold reserves that they declare. It is possible that their own reserves, at the moment, are even lower than Chinese. For these reasons, they "dynamite" all the countries that wanted and want to take their gold back.
      3. hrych
        hrych 22 February 2018 16: 27
        +6
        Quote: Andrey K
        The Germans can’t get their gold out of there, they simply "dynamite".

        So consider German gold, as it were, but no matter how. The USA, on the other hand, profiled both its own, and German, and Japanese. Putin, respectively, from the destroyed and robbed country brought gold bins turns into one of the leaders. Given that the rest of these reserves are needed, as if in shocks for the purchase of hydrocarbons, when candy wrappers cease circulation. And we have our own oil. And the gold of the Party (USSR) did not miscalculate even the EBN, but the purchase of bread from the United States by the Communists, when petrodollars became scarce due to the sheikhs' conspiracy. Grains were taken from a sworn enemy for gold or hunger ... And now the Russian Federation without granaries is the world leader in wheat exports. Your deeds are wonderful, Lord.
        1. the most important
          the most important 22 February 2018 22: 01
          +1
          Quote: hrych
          And now the Russian Federation without granaries is the world leader in wheat exports.

          But the leader does not produce meat or milk ... he just buys palm oil and poison the people with it.
          1. Lieutenant
            Lieutenant 23 February 2018 08: 22
            +2
            Perhaps the farmers personally told you this, I live in the Rostov region and observe the opposite. Everything else, people (local) do not want to buy imported meat and buy from their producer.
          2. hrych
            hrych 23 February 2018 12: 19
            0
            Oh no, Putin conducted his collectivization, not reliance on farmers, but on large agricultural holdings. Grain we are self-sufficient and export leaders, poultry and eggs, but for beef and milk we need a couple more years and self-sufficiency, pork self-sufficiency. They invested loot in agricultural holdings, gave tax benefits, dated the fuel, this is the result, and the capitalists pop the palm oil - the breeders, because they will strangle themselves for profit. There is your right to boycott this product. But people are buying despite printing product composition. Over time, of course, they will ban, when the Burenki close the state’s self-sufficiency.
      4. figwam
        figwam 22 February 2018 16: 40
        +2
        Andrey K

        Inside the American bullion, tungsten was discovered, which is the same in density as gold, but much cheaper. What else can you expect from world crooks.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 22 February 2018 13: 54
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Still to return imperial gold - we will be the first with a huge margin from all! hi

      And the party gold hi
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 22 February 2018 14: 00
      +18
      So I did a separate review on gold.

      The Bank of Russia for 2017 bought 224 tons of gold

      According to the results of 2017, monetary gold reserves in the international reserves of the Russian Federation increased by 13,87% (+ 223,95 tons) and as of January 1, 2018 amounted to 59,1 million ounces (1838,22 tons), according to materials of the Bank of Russia.

      At the same time, the value of gold in reserves for the year increased by 27,33% - to 76,647 billion as of January 1, 2018 from $ 60,194 billion as of January 1, 2017. The share of gold in international reserves over the period increased - to 17,71% from 15,94%.

      During 2017, the Bank of Russia, as well as a year earlier, regularly purchased monetary gold to replenish its foreign exchange reserves.

      So in December 2017, the Bank of Russia acquired 9,33 tons of monetary gold, increasing gold reserves by 0,5% compared to November.
      In November 2017, the bank acquired 27,99 tons of gold, in October - 21,77 tons of monetary gold, in September the bank acquired 34,22 tons of gold, in August - 15,5 tons of gold, in July - acquired 12,44 tons of gold , in June - 9,33 tons, in May - 21,8 tons, in April - 6,2 tons, in March - 25 tons, in February - 9,3 tons, in January - 31,1 tons.

      Gold purchase statistics for international reserves of Russia:
      January 1, 2007 402 tonnes
      January 1, 2008 450 tons
      January 1, 2009 519 tons
      January 1, 2010 637,6 tons
      January 1, 2011 789,9 tons
      January 1, 2012 883,2 tonnes
      January 1, 2013 958 tons
      January 1, 2014 1036 tons
      January 1, 2015 1207 tons
      January 1, 2016 1406 tons
      January 1, 2017 1614,2 tons
      January 1, 2018 1838,22 tons
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 22 February 2018 14: 05
        +10
        Lord of the Sith
        Thanks, informative hi
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 22 February 2018 14: 08
          +8
          I note that gold is bought for rubles from our own producers.

          In principle, you can bookmark the page https://gold.1prime.ru and watch every day, there about diamonds, gold, prices and so on.
          1. dauria
            dauria 22 February 2018 14: 24
            +1
            I note that gold is bought for rubles from own producers


            Annual production in the Russian Federation is about 300 tons. Can someone explain who is buying from whom, how much and whose it is at every stage from the ground to the ingot in the bank of Russia?
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 22 February 2018 14: 31
              +8
              To paraphrase your question, who is buying the T-90 and Su-35S from whom, how much and whose it is at each stage from iron ore to a military unit in the Russian Armed Forces?

              I buy a state bank from a state-owned enterprise.
              1. dauria
                dauria 22 February 2018 15: 00
                +3
                I buy a state bank from a state-owned enterprise.


                Sorry, but I was hoping for a qualified answer. By the way, from ore to the army, the tank or plane (or parts thereof) does not belong to the state, but to the owners. For example, Deripaska.
                Who can clearly explain what kind of Union of gold miners is and on what conditions these private companies, banks and others dig and sell gold.
                Among the members of the Union of Gold Miners are enterprises for the extraction of precious metals and precious stones (private), refineries, commercial banks, other organizations, all about 40.
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 22 February 2018 15: 07
                  +6
                  What about the percentage of shares in these private companies? Here, for example, is Gazprom state or private? Private, but the state there has 50% + 1 share.

                  Therefore, in your list of 40 enterprises, you need to know how many shares the state has. On what grounds do they mine state-owned gold, it is necessary to look at the agreements, maybe they mine and give back part of them in the form of taxes and natural raw materials.
                  1. Cube123
                    Cube123 22 February 2018 16: 50
                    +3
                    And besides, you need to buy another mining license, which also costs money.
                    https://prodragmetally.ru/o-zolote/dobycha/poluch
                    it-litsenziyu.html
                2. MOSKVITYANIN
                  MOSKVITYANIN 24 February 2018 12: 45
                  0
                  dauria Among the members of the Union of Gold Miners are enterprises for the extraction of precious metals and precious stones (private), refineries, commercial banks, other organizations, all about 40.

                  This chain (worked in a private company): A tender (organized by the Ministry of Natural Resources) for the extraction of certain areas with the condition of annual minimum gold mining, the gold was sent for processing to the Prioksky plant (there are only such 3 in the Russian Federation), then they donated gold to a "pocket bank" (the same bank financed the company so that the almshouse did not run away to another bank, the bank took a share in this almshouse as a security). The chains are about the same, only factories and banks are changing ....
    4. hrych
      hrych 22 February 2018 16: 32
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Still to return imperial gold - we will be the first with a huge margin from all!

      Stalin returned it, the Bolsheviks, sent hundreds of millions of gold to Switzerland, each. When they tortured Zinoviev, Bukharin and others, they poured out accounts, and for fidelity they took hostages children and relatives, beneficiaries of the final ones, even Krupskaya turned in the bills of Lenin, already insane. On the way, Stalin took away Spanish gold and German, but this is a different story. And what was knocked out by the Leninists went to machine tools and factories for industrialization, like the Spanish one, plus landliz was paid for in gold. And this is the price of Victory and the subsequent leap from plow to space-rocket and thermo-nuclear power. Gold should work, not dust. Moreover, we have no problems with oil and millet, and the military-industrial complex is self-sufficient. The prospects for the Russian Federation are positive.
    5. Votyak
      Votyak 22 February 2018 17: 01
      0
      and american check
    6. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 22 February 2018 17: 43
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Still to return imperial gold - we will be the first with a huge margin from all! hi

      recourse recourse it’s better to return the "royal" territories !!! repeat wink yes wassat laughing laughing laughing good
    7. Saburov
      Saburov 22 February 2018 22: 43
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Still to return imperial gold - we will be the first with a huge margin from all!


      Well, will you return this gold and what will happen? There was a lot of gold in the Russian Empire and the country was with this gold anyway, economically and industrially backward. What will you do with it? Now on the exchanges an ordinary piece of paper called the dollar has two, if not three times more demand than gold. And all because the Americans own the technology and, as a result, thanks to them, crush the whole world under themselves. And we are all id ... s running with this gold. Industry needs to be raised and invested in science with education, and not wither over a coin.

      Sincerely.
      1. eugraphus
        eugraphus 23 February 2018 00: 24
        0
        Gold is a currency without a state.
        But gold was, is and will be. And it will flow to the place where smart people love and appreciate it.
        If you do not have gold, gold has you.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 February 2018 13: 41
    +3
    am In the United States, in the Fort Knox, the mouse hung itself from anguish and fear — it was running along such gigantic empty rooms! crying lol
    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 22 February 2018 13: 48
      +3
      Of course, we don’t know what they have there, but Germany seems to be second only on paper. Because all its gold is stored in the USA, and for five years now, they have been unsuccessfully trying to get it out of there.
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 22 February 2018 14: 12
        +5
        No one really knows what is available. The newly-made Minister of Finance Trump after the election went with an inspection to Fort Knox. And for the first time in US history, information about the amount of gold in the vault was taken orally without counting. In addition, more than half of the US gold reserves were deposited with commercial banks to guarantee their stability. For 50 years, the US government has not received a gram of metal from these banks. Everyone thinks that it still lies untouched there. But with the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in 2008, gold was not there ...
        1. dr.star75
          dr.star75 22 February 2018 20: 36
          +1
          There was no gold coin during the excavation of the twin towers. And it was supposed to be there
    2. 210ox
      210ox 22 February 2018 14: 06
      +1
      Come on, no one hanged there. The phrase touched, if China and Russia squeeze the United States ... Yes, we don’t even quote there as an economy. And China, Russia is only interested in where the oil, gas, and wood come from ..
      Quote: Herkulesich
      am In the United States, in the Fort Knox, the mouse hung itself from anguish and fear — it was running along such gigantic empty rooms! crying lol
    3. dauria
      dauria 22 February 2018 14: 07
      +1
      one was running around such giant empty rooms!


      10 meters x 10 meters x 1 meter - such a cube is 1 900 tons. Stock of Russia or China. You can add a couple of meters of height to the voids between the ingots and the aisles. The mouse still complains that the room is small, there is nowhere to roam.
  3. rruvim
    rruvim 22 February 2018 13: 51
    +3
    And who saw that the Amer 8 thousand. 133 tons? The fact that German and gold of other countries is stored on American territory is well known. Can these 8 tons be stockpiled by other countries in the USA?
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 22 February 2018 13: 58
      +2
      After all, after the Islamic Revolution, they “froze” Shah’s gold of Iran from the beginning, and then “appropriated” it. So it was with the Cuban gold of the dictator Batista. I am sure that all 8000 tons is someone else's gold, which the Hegemon will appropriate himself when he "wishes" ...
  4. RUSS
    RUSS 22 February 2018 13: 55
    +1
    Well, how Russia and China bend the dollar wassat and all the khan to the americos laughing
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 February 2018 14: 06
      +6
      ... and then I woke up.
  5. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 22 February 2018 14: 03
    0
    An interesting note, only how much does it correspond to reality? Who can tell you where Bloomberg got this data from ?!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 22 February 2018 14: 08
      +1
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      An interesting note, only how much does it correspond to reality? Who can tell you where Bloomberg got this data from ?!

      They are in open sources, well, for recommendations, sometimes see the news.
      1. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 22 February 2018 14: 16
        0
        And if ours, when exaggerating, count the number of gold in order to prevent negative trends? What if during these 4 years I had to spend part of the reserve on patching financial holes and losses from corruption ...
        In America, gold, on the contrary, should be more.
  6. Greenwood
    Greenwood 22 February 2018 14: 07
    +3
    Cool, that would have caught up with the incomes of the population.
  7. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 22 February 2018 14: 12
    +1
    But I don’t understand ... Why should Russia not buy gold from the USA instead of mythical bonds?
    1. Ural cossack
      Ural cossack 22 February 2018 14: 23
      +1
      So do not sell.
      Apparently something is wrong?
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 22 February 2018 14: 25
        0
        Well then, at international venues
        1. SOF
          SOF 22 February 2018 14: 37
          +2
          Quote: Ace Tambourine
          Why not buy Russia ........ well then at international sites

          ... because at "international sites" to buy gold, in the form of metal, is very problematic. There, basically, they trade in the same "pieces of paper" as the United States, only they are called differently - futures ....
          1. eugraphus
            eugraphus 23 February 2018 00: 29
            +1
            Also called paper gold.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 February 2018 14: 20
    0
    Okay so. Grow and grow. And the remaining reserves are not decreasing. So what's wrong with that?
  9. askort154
    askort154 22 February 2018 14: 26
    0
    Here are more numbers for 2014.
    Gold in the world is mined in 70 countries. The largest deposits are in South Africa, Australia, Canada, the USA and Russia. Total in the world mined in 2014 - 2,860 thousand tons.
    In the USSR, in the mid-80s, the supply was within 700 tons. After 1991, it began to sharply decrease (sale by the government) and in 1992 reached 290 tons.
    Now 200-300 tons per year are mined in the Russian Federation. (272t. In 2014) Happy New Year! hi
  10. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 22 February 2018 14: 30
    0
    Russia has overtaken the PRC in gold reserves
    China could buy it all, not really they need it
    1. Professor
      Professor 22 February 2018 15: 58
      +4
      Quote: _Ugene_
      Russia has overtaken the PRC in gold reserves
      China could buy it all, not really they need it

      And nobody needs it. The national currency today is provided not by gold, but by the trust of citizens. Bitcoin is an example of this. Gold is not provided, but you can buy this red metal on it. The paradox however. fellow
      I can’t understand what is the use of gold reserves? What if you need cash for food for your people and does the National Bank sell a couple of hundred tons of gold on the world market? And who will buy it? And at what price? For me, money should not be invested not in gold lying dead weight, but in the economy.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 22 February 2018 20: 43
        +4
        No one needs nuclear weapons either. Everyone is fighting tanks, planes. Only here, even Israel has bombs. So it is with gold. Under US lending, it sold equipment for silver and gold, and not for futures and bonds. And about the economy, I agree
        1. Professor
          Professor 23 February 2018 17: 39
          +1
          Quote: dr.star75
          No one needs nuclear weapons either. Everyone is fighting tanks, planes. Only here, even Israel has bombs. So it is with gold. Under US lending, it sold equipment for silver and gold, and not for futures and bonds. And about the economy, I agree

          Nuclear weapons are utopian because their use is not possible. Gold stock from about the same opera. You can sell only a dozen as there is no longer demand. You can of course sell your gold at the price of colormet. There are those who want to buy.

          According to Lendliz, the USSR received help for free. Gold was paid only for what they decided to leave to themselves after the war. Why gold? Wood Americans did not agree to take. What could you buy on them? request

          Quote: eugraphus
          If confidence in the dollar collapses, then the economy will collapse. The need for hard currency can be provided only by gold. Under it, you can issue at least a solid yuan, at least a ruble. Gold is a currency without a state. The blood of the economy is money. The more healthy the money, the healthier the economy. More stable than gold has not yet been invented. Although, if they still invent the "philosopher's stone", then gold will become irrelevant.

          If the dollar collapses, the world economy will collapse and no gold will help.
          1. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 26 February 2018 10: 28
            0
            Nuclear weapons are utopian because their use is not possible.
            Why does Israel not abandon this utopia?
            I can not agree with you on this issue. For example, the United States has a huge advantage over the Russian Federation in the field of precision weapons, in this case nuclear weapons are the only deterrent from the mass use of precision weapons in case of conflict. Yes, to answer with the help of nuclear weapons means to destroy the Earth, nevertheless this is guaranteed to cool hotheads from starting a war.
            1. Professor
              Professor 26 February 2018 11: 57
              +1
              Quote: _Ugene_
              Why does Israel not abandon this utopia?

              Do we have it? wink Did it stop the Arabs from attacking us in 1973?

              Quote: _Ugene_
              I can not agree with you on this issue. For example, the United States has a huge advantage over the Russian Federation in the field of precision weapons, in this case nuclear weapons are the only deterrent from the mass use of precision weapons in case of conflict. Yes, to answer with the help of nuclear weapons means to destroy the Earth, nevertheless this is guaranteed to cool hotheads from starting a war.

              I am not stopping anyone. The same Arabs attacked Israel in 1973 no matter what. Another thing is that today the greatness of the state is not measured by the size of the territories, but by the power of the economy. But the war does not raise the economy.
              1. _Ugene_
                _Ugene_ 26 February 2018 12: 01
                0
                Do we have it?

                Open secret. Apparently the opinion of the leadership of your state regarding nuclear weapons differs from yours.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 26 February 2018 12: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: _Ugene_
                  Do we have it?

                  Open secret. Apparently the opinion of the leadership of your state regarding nuclear weapons differs from yours.

                  ... and the leadership used nuclear weapons when the kirdyk sneaked up to us? Not? Why is it so?
                  1. _Ugene_
                    _Ugene_ 26 February 2018 13: 06
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                    The question is clearly not at the address. I should ask you this. If you are interested in my opinion on this issue, then I think your leadership considered this redundant, they decided that they could cope with conventional weapons as well. But the fact that they did not abandon nuclear weapons indicates that they have a different opinion about the utopian nature of nuclear weapons.
              2. V
                V 26 February 2018 14: 34
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                Quote: Professor
                But the war does not raise the economy.

                How not to raise it? And what do you think the United States has been doing in the last 50 years? Destroy competitors by all available means, including military operations.
      2. eugraphus
        eugraphus 23 February 2018 00: 46
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        If confidence in the dollar collapses, then the economy will collapse. The need for hard currency can be provided only by gold. Under it, you can issue at least a solid yuan, at least a ruble. Gold is a currency without a state. The blood of the economy is money. The more healthy the money, the healthier the economy. More stable than gold has not yet been invented. Although, if they still invent the "philosopher's stone", then gold will become irrelevant.
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 24 February 2018 11: 17
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          and then the Nyberuyts will fly for yasak ...
          Who has, will pay off, and the rest for meat ...
          And in economics, and especially technology, the ray of Aurum is nothing ...
          In voyenushchestvo, just out of sporting interest, he spent a week at a mountain rivulet in the South Urals, he himself came from there. Made a tray lined with dielectric rugs. Learned how glitters ...
          True, he shoveled a lot, but still, with a gray-haired Faberge, he is absolutely indifferent to this metal except for technical perfection.
  11. KVashentcev
    KVashentcev 22 February 2018 14: 53
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    You better ask Elvira Sahipzadovna where that gold is. There are undeniable rumors that it is in the vaults of our bosom potential adversary. The sanctions list of the Russian leadership of Naibulina is not ...
    1. Lena Petrova
      Lena Petrova 22 February 2018 16: 17
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      Everything is fine with Elvira and gold. :)) http://trinixy.ru/155048-glavnoe-zolotohranilisch
      e-centrobanka-rossii-23-foto.html
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 February 2018 12: 06
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      In the Russian special guard, along with other precious metals and precious stones.
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  12. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 22 February 2018 16: 11
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    Quote: Andrey K
    As recently as a couple of years ago, these cheaters returned some “gold” to the Chinese - as a result, the Chinese ... are the owners of a bunch of dummies.

    In 2009, the Chinese returned 5600 bars from the United States. Suspecting something was wrong, they instructed experts (for the first time in history) to check the purity and weight of the ingots. The ingots turned out to be counterfeit - made of tungsten and coated with a thin amalgam of gold.
    By the way, the former head of the IMF, Strauss-Kahn, suspected something when the United States slowed down the shipment of 191 tons of gold for the IMF. After which he suffered.
  13. datur
    datur 24 February 2018 11: 04
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    that's it = At ​​US = we have
  14. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 24 February 2018 20: 13
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    Quote: Professor
    Nuclear weapons are utopian because their use is not possible.

    You tell the striped brothers ... something they directly say that they can easily use ...
    Ynka is resting in front of them ...
  15. -Ac-
    -Ac- 17 January 2019 19: 12
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    Quote: Professor
    If the dollar collapses, the world economy will collapse and no gold will help.

    Isn't that perfect? After all, everything that lined up for centuries on egoism, lies and greed will collapse.
  16. -Ac-
    -Ac- 18 January 2019 08: 23
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    Quote: Professor
    For me, money should not be invested not in gold lying dead weight, but in the economy.

    Partly you are right because a powerful engine is excellent, but an airbag is also needed.