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US Marines began to prepare for the "Russian winter"

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US marines are preparing in Norway for potential battles with military personnel from Russia and North Korea. The US media calls this preparation "hellish in terms of tax spending," including because of the specific climate.


The struggle is likely to be hellishly difficult from the point of view of physical preparation and financial costs of taxpayers, compared to operations in the Middle Eastern climate to which the corps is used
- reports site defensenews.com.

US Marines began to prepare for the "Russian winter"


The publication notes that the US military pays attention to the smallest details, since this can be a matter of life and death, and even the most ordinary tasks take more time, says First Lieutenant Wilson Fortuna, commander of the platoon of the US Marines, who is in Norway.

The corps intends to catch up with other Arctic allies and potential adversaries in terms of training. That is why the Marines began training in the north. They test equipment in harsh environments and become familiar with the tactical and logistical tasks of the snow tundra.
- noted on the site.

New equipment allows US infantrymen to fight the enemy in deep snow, in cold and mountainous conditions. The publication notes that the naval corps did not fight in a cold climate since the campaign of the Hoshin Reservoir during the Korean War almost 70 years ago. But now the Marines are again preparing for such a conflict, most likely with Russia or North Korea.

Marines fear that fighting in a cold climate will lead to greater losses than similar operations in temperate climates or even in the scorching deserts of the Middle East, reports "The View"
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  1. ALEX_SHTURMAN
    ALEX_SHTURMAN 22 February 2018 12: 51
    +9
    In the words of the wise KA: "Come closer Banderlog"!
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 22 February 2018 12: 58
      +19
      ... Marines fear that fighting in a cold climate will lead to heavy losses ...

      Common concerns.
      Pampers freeze.
      Losses will begin immediately upon arrival, without coming into contact with the enemy laughing
    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 22 February 2018 13: 00
      +6
      Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
      In the words of the wise KA: "Come closer Banderlog"!

      The Nazis were also prepared for the Russian winter .... and then prepared, they handed out medals for the winter company - under the name, Frozen Meat! fool
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 22 February 2018 13: 16
        +9
        US Marines began to prepare for the "Russian winter"

        In response, Russia began to prepare the construction battalion for the climate of California.
        1. flicker
          flicker 22 February 2018 16: 03
          +2
          In response, Russia began to prepare the construction battalion for the climate of California.
          There is no need to prepare there, and so everyone is ready, only the teams are waiting. yes
        2. gromoboj
          gromoboj 22 February 2018 22: 52
          0
          We are ready to eat. Only citizenship must be given first.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 22 February 2018 13: 31
        +11
        Quote: Hunter 2
        The fascists were also preparing for the Russian winter.

        By the way, no ... they planned to complete the campaign before the winter colds, practical Germans did not even bother with winter uniforms for the Wehrmacht. It is useless to prepare them for the Russian winter, and even more so for the Arctic cold, anyway, there will be no Russians equal to us here
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 February 2018 13: 44
          +3
          That's right, our General Frost is remembered only when they grabbed by the buttocks!
          Anyway, sho et for military forces? Are they seriously going to fly to helicopters by helicopter ??? This option sales should not be considered, complete nonsense! But hte tanks, other shock equipment ... you don’t have to type it either?
          Well, well, then the Boshi identity for their two then flew off, the technique then crap, froze, froze!
          It’s not harmful to study history, but to live in a world of one’s own or computer fantasies!
      3. ALEX_SHTURMAN
        ALEX_SHTURMAN 22 February 2018 13: 41
        0
        Dear, if you can read between the lines, I mean that they will remain in the snow!
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        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 February 2018 14: 49
          +2
          The difficult moment of our history. They would give grades. A big minus would be to our strategists, but they won the company, as always. Glory to the Russian soldier WINNER!
      5. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 22 February 2018 15: 03
        +5
        Yes, I immediately remembered the Wehrmacht’s video, where they clap their hands on the thighs (exercises from the cold) laughing It was already, just deja vu! Unfortunately, I can’t find that video! But everyone knows how it ended!
  2. hohol95
    hohol95 22 February 2018 12: 52
    +2
    It turns out that during the "COLD WAR" they were not prepared for -
    ... to potential battles with troops from Russia and North Korea.

    Or the old preparation experience was FORGOTTEN-FORGOTTEN ...
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 22 February 2018 13: 18
      +9
      can borrow an example of German experience
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 22 February 2018 14: 14
        +3
        And you watch the video of the GERMAN educational films - "About actions in the cold"! They were taught to fight the "Siberian frost"! But in 1941-1942, these films did not help much!
        But since the end of 1942, the Germans in winter uniform changed dramatically -
        1. Rivares
          Rivares 27 February 2018 12: 54
          0
          Here are just a photo of winter 44 \ 45. Such an assault rifle appeared around this time.
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 27 February 2018 14: 23
            0
            On the cover could be a photograph of 1945!
            You read the magazine itself!
            It's written - 1942 1945!
  3. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 22 February 2018 12: 52
    +7
    Dumb-eeee !!! In Norway, actually a resort compared to the climate of Russia. In Bergen, for example, the average January temperature is +2, as in Anapa and Sevastopol. The dumb Yankees had to conduct exercises in Alaska or in Canada.
    1. kit88
      kit88 22 February 2018 13: 00
      +2
      In fact, from Murmansk to the Nords a hundred kilometers to the west. Do you think that the climate in Murmansk as in Anapa is a resort?
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 22 February 2018 13: 07
        +15
        In fact, Murmansk is located much north and east of Norway, and lies on the shores of the Barents Sea, not the warm Norwegian, warmed by the warm North Atlantic Current. Bergen and Oslo, for example, lie at a latitude of 60 degrees, while Murmansk is at a latitude of 69 degrees. Therefore, comparing the climates of Bergen and Murmansk is simply stupid. Even Narvik, which is located in the north of Norway, also has warm winters, where the average January temperature is -4, which is comparable to the average January temperature of Rostov-on-Don.
        1. kit88
          kit88 22 February 2018 13: 16
          +2
          Dear Theorist!
          What does Bergen and Oslo have to do with it?
          Murmansk borders with the Nords. Do you think the climate is different on different sides of the border pillar? Wiki to help you. Explore Northern Norway
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 22 February 2018 13: 41
            +4
            Quote: kit88
            Dear Theorist!
            What does Bergen and Oslo have to do with it?

            Dear practitioner, Wiki write whoever came from amers and ukrov. Oh yeah! they are great specialists.
          2. Kot_Kuzya
            Kot_Kuzya 22 February 2018 13: 43
            +1
            What kind of Nords? Is this your geographical discovery that even geography scientists are not aware of?
            1. kit88
              kit88 22 February 2018 13: 49
              +1
              And you will serve in the Murmansk region, and you will find out who the Nords are, who are the Sami, and why diving in the lakes is not recommended in summer. And also, we have a climate like in Anapa, though it's -20 overboard, 20m / s wind and there is no oxygen in the air
              1. Kot_Kuzya
                Kot_Kuzya 22 February 2018 14: 06
                +1
                Did I say that in Murmansk the climate is like in Anapa? Actually, I had in mind Bergen.
                1. kit88
                  kit88 22 February 2018 14: 35
                  +6
                  Yes, I understand you perfectly. The climate in Norway is really very different in the north and in the south. It is clear that you are trolling amers.
                  I’m just opposed to considering them idiots. It is bad for our health.
                  1. jjj
                    jjj 22 February 2018 14: 52
                    +2
                    In reality, when you cross the border from Norway to the Murmansk region along the E-105 highway, the climate changes. It's hard to believe in this with brains, but one's own skin feels instantly. In Norway, it is much warmer and even a big minus is tolerated much easier. It would seem that from Kirkenes to Zapolyarny in a straight line only fifty kilometers. And these are two different worlds
          3. not main
            not main 22 February 2018 21: 59
            +1
            Quote: kit88
            Dear Theorist!
            What does Bergen and Oslo have to do with it?
            Murmansk borders with the Nords. Do you think the climate is different on different sides of the border pillar? Wiki to help you. Explore Northern Norway

            Dear "practitioner", and you know that by average January temperature Murmansk is much warmer than, for example, the more "southern" cities like Arkhangelsk, Petrozavodsk, Vologda and so on.
            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya 23 February 2018 00: 36
              0
              Therefore, by the way, the hunters of Dietl were not so cold on the Norwegian-Soviet border than the Germans near Moscow, since there the coast is near a warm, ice-free sea, and below -20 it is very rare. In the winter of 1941-1942, frost hit the Middle Strip to -40 due to the greater continental climate.
        2. Hariton laptev
          Hariton laptev 22 February 2018 13: 16
          +1
          All right! Even going to sea, this difference is very noticeable.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 22 February 2018 13: 37
        +6
        Quote: kit88
        In fact, from Murmansk to the Nords a hundred kilometers to the west. Do you think that the climate in Murmansk as in Anapa is a resort?

        Murmansk is not Naryan-Mar and not Novaya Zemlya, it is a resort compared to these places. Everywhere had a chance to go to the service, therefore, I draw conclusions from personal experience.
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 22 February 2018 13: 48
          +2
          And in Bergen and Narvik the resort is compared with Murmansk. In Bergen, for example, fruit trees grow: apple trees, pears, etc. http://www.kabulari.ru/hardangerfjord/
        2. kit88
          kit88 22 February 2018 13: 55
          +3
          I agree. He was in Naryan, Narychna Vynder read. On the "deuce" it was not possible, only according to the stories of colleagues. Compared to them - of course the resort, and do not talk. But I suspect that their marines were going to fight Murmansk
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 22 February 2018 14: 20
            +2
            Quote: kit88
            But I suspect that their marines were going to fight Murmansk

            Traditionally - Arkhangelsk.
            1. jjj
              jjj 22 February 2018 14: 54
              +3
              Quote: sogdy
              Traditionally - Arkhangelsk.

              Meet you. Something acute shortage in the "Hammers" to go fishing was outlined.
              Joking as a joke, but I heard that when the Americans went during the intervention of the beginning of the last century from the Dvina to Pinega, they did not reach it. They perished in the swamps and mosquitoes. And there the flank was red and there was no one to defend. Several people on the river Pokshenge near the village of Krasnoye were waiting for fate. The old man, who in his youth was among these defenders, told this story
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 22 February 2018 14: 59
                0
                Quote: jjj
                Something acute shortage in the “Hammers” to go fishing was outlined

                Look there so you don’t sink. These may, no respect for our needs.
  4. taiga2018
    taiga2018 22 February 2018 12: 54
    +5
    and we are aggressive, we are preparing for war, we must be restrained ...
  5. MIG00001
    MIG00001 22 February 2018 12: 55
    +2
    nuuu and ani technique adapted to minus -50 degrees
  6. citlstar
    citlstar 22 February 2018 12: 55
    +2
    More African Americans there, let them temper.
    1. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 22 February 2018 13: 17
      +1
      with latinos and mexes
    2. Skay
      Skay 22 February 2018 13: 23
      +2
      As far as I know, in the United States Commission for the United States, they mainly recruit Latinos, there are all kinds of Mexicans. In short, the same blacks, only American.
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 22 February 2018 14: 08
        0
        You do not know correctly. Learn the mat part better.
    3. Wedmak
      Wedmak 22 February 2018 13: 49
      +1
      There will be problems with disguise ...
      1. citlstar
        citlstar 22 February 2018 14: 21
        +1
        Nothing, roll in flour and there will be an eclair. (Chocolate in eclair)
    4. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 22 February 2018 14: 52
      +1
      Entih will definitely not be due to unnecessary costs of disguising them ... Although you can fix it cheaply with a clean-up ..
  7. Egorovich
    Egorovich 22 February 2018 12: 56
    +4
    Advice to mattresses - study the history of victories of the Russian Empire, the USSR in wars. am Especially victory near Moscow during WWII am . The result will be the same, with 100% accuracy. am
    1. citlstar
      citlstar 22 February 2018 13: 00
      +1
      They did not learn history and do not know Russian sayings - Don’t wake it up, while it’s quiet!
  8. cniza
    cniza 22 February 2018 12: 56
    +5
    Marines fear that fighting in cold climates will cause heavy casualties


    And do not meddle with us and there will be no loss.
    1. Cutter
      Cutter 22 February 2018 13: 58
      +2
      [quote = cniza] [quote] Marines fear that fighting in a cold climate will lead to heavy losses [/ quote]

      And do not meddle with us and there will be no losses. [/ Quote]
      [Quote]
      Victor, good day! hi They can’t help but climb, they’re “bringing democracy”! belay It is necessary to pity the American boys, such "sacrifices" for the sake of a bright "future" ... crying laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 February 2018 15: 09
        +3
        Greetings to Alexander! hi , I would say that they carry yes banned, and the literary language is not intelligible. lol
  9. 3vs
    3vs 22 February 2018 12: 57
    +3
    There is also Denis Davydov for these ...
    Happy warriors! drinks
  10. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 22 February 2018 12: 57
    +2
    Aha ... And the most aggressive ones are, of course, Russians ... laughing
  11. ML-334
    ML-334 22 February 2018 12: 59
    +3
    Electric-heated pampers were invented, but again, you can boil eggs in a crumple.
  12. anjey
    anjey 22 February 2018 13: 03
    +2
    “The fight is likely to be hellishly difficult in terms of physical preparation and financial costs for taxpayers, compared with operations in the Middle East climate that the corps is used to
    What kind of conversation, JA’s blood will freeze even without injuries in the Russian climate, so some sort of military operations with the USA army are contraindicated, and will end with the end of US imperialist domination in the world, in short America is trotting for you ....
    1. anjey
      anjey 22 February 2018 13: 42
      +1
      or JI? I don’t remember ... in short, JI HI ...
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 22 February 2018 13: 51
        +1
        GI, government issue, on a government mission.
        You know, it’s clear anyway.
        1. anjey
          anjey 22 February 2018 14: 09
          +1
          yes, already looked at the wiki ...
  13. Jerk
    Jerk 22 February 2018 13: 10
    +1
    Let the graves learn to dig themselves in frozen ground - come in handy
  14. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 February 2018 13: 14
    +4
    As Klitschko from Kiev said “get ready for the earth”, I would add “forever”!
  15. Skay
    Skay 22 February 2018 13: 14
    0
    US marines prepare in Norway for potential battles with troops from Russia and North Korea

    EPT !!! Well, ok, frost and Russia! But where does North Korea have to do with it? North Korea is much farther south. Yes, and much east.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 22 February 2018 13: 22
      +6
      In North Korea, it is cold in winter, there is a monsoon climate, and in winter, thanks to the Siberian anticyclone, winds constantly blow from the north-west, bringing very cold air from Manchuria. I was in Seoul in February before the Olympics and there was -17.
  16. sgr291158
    sgr291158 22 February 2018 13: 16
    +1
    It’s useless, they’ll freeze anyway.
    1. citlstar
      citlstar 22 February 2018 13: 22
      +1
      The British froze their manhood in Estonia and wanted to. bad example contagious
  17. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 13: 22
    +3
    New equipment allows US infantrymen to fight the enemy in deep snow, in cold and mountainous conditions. The publication notes that the naval corps did not fight in a cold climate since the campaign of the Hoshin Reservoir during the Korean War almost 70 years ago. But now the Marines are again preparing for such a conflict, most likely with Russia or North Korea.
    ---------------------------------
    Interestingly, group or individual will issue licenses for the shooting of this beast? I can imagine how our hunters will lay this army in the forest like wolves and will click out.
  18. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 22 February 2018 13: 36
    0
    let the ice cream eat in winter also learn boxes! otherwise the wrong preparation will be
  19. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 22 February 2018 13: 46
    +1
    Norway was chosen for a reason, the climate there is approximately the same as in central Russia, i.e. moderate. Therefore, in which case (pah-pah-pah) they do not intend to go deep into the country where the climate is really harsh. Although for most Americans, the climate of our middle zone is approximately the same as for the inhabitant of the middle zone, the climate of eastern Siberia. In North Korea, it’s also a bit chilly in places, but the admin and prom parts are quite comfortable.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 22 February 2018 14: 13
      +3
      Quote: MRomanovich
      Although for most Americans, the climate of our middle strip is approximately the same as for a resident of the middle strip, the climate of eastern Siberia

      The USA is almost all located in the subtropics, southern California and Florida have a tropical climate. For example, "northern" by American standards, New York is located on the latitude of Istanbul and Madrid, and the "southern" Houston and New Orleans on the latitude of Cairo. In Los Angeles, the average January temperature is +15, Houston and New Orleans +12, Atlanta +6, Miami +20. Even in "northern" New York, the average January temperature is +1, which is comparable to the climate of Krasnodar. Therefore, if an American who grew up in California, Texas or Florida gets to Murmansk, then it is the same as if a Muscovite were in Yakutsk.
  20. Black_PR
    Black_PR 22 February 2018 13: 49
    +2
    "US Marines began to prepare for the" Russian winter .... "
    It would be better if they prepared for the ground ... 1x2x2
    "Marines fear that fighting in a cold climate will result in heavy casualties .."
    Not just big ones - you’ll lie here. Ask those who have already tried this.
  21. MoJloT
    MoJloT 22 February 2018 14: 01
    +3
    Well, of course, the Marine Corps is especially effective beyond the Arctic Circle.
  22. Ural cossack
    Ural cossack 22 February 2018 14: 05
    +3
    Well stupid. Wellcome. Went to dig a three-line. ))))
  23. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 22 February 2018 14: 07
    +3
    We did not find fried and steamed, but they were frozen ...
  24. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 22 February 2018 14: 10
    +2
    What does it mean to start cooking?
    In the KMP, Arctic personnel training has been underway, EMNIP, since the 50s of the last century. At first, the Marines were taught how to operate in low temperatures and highlands in the United States (Sierra Nevada Mountains), and later they began to export them to Norway. KMP even bought the Swedish articulated transporters Bv206.
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    1. sogdy
      sogdy 22 February 2018 14: 25
      +3
      Quote: Korax71
      only no one remembers how many Soviet prisoners of war still lie there

      How do you burn today. Translation error? Or not injected enough?
      1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
        Crane operator Nahamkinson 22 February 2018 20: 40
        +3
        Tries korax,
        fulfills cookies. laughing
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 23 February 2018 03: 13
          0
          And yourself, in what organization are you standing for allowance ???? or was it like that, just to blur ?????
          1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
            Crane operator Nahamkinson 23 February 2018 06: 44
            +1
            In the construction.
            I am a crane operator, I work on a crane.
            The profile is indicated.
      2. Korax71
        Korax71 23 February 2018 03: 14
        0
        T9 damn. I'm writing from the phone. And maybe my fingers are bold and crooked.
  26. Dormidont
    Dormidont 22 February 2018 14: 27
    +1
    Our Western and Middle Eastern partners can not worry - their frozen dead carcasses can fall thousands of years
  27. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 14: 43
    +1
    Quote: Korax71
    only no one remembers how many Soviet prisoners of war still lie there. or everyone thinks that from that moment they began to recruit Duncans MacLauds in the army ???? again, the caps go into battle

    ---------------------------
    Both of my grandfathers were ordinary village men, not supermen at all, but Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, Rambo, Terminator and Casanova would not be standing there. My mother’s father had an unbelievable number of fragments in the body with which he lived until 1999, that is, already like Terminator, part-time and Casanova, everywhere found women for love, even on the front line. And my father’s father, judging by Rambo’s award sheets, helped establish a crossing when crossing the Dnieper in Belarus (Mogilev), and then actively held the bridgehead on the other side. And in another battle with his comrades he entered the battle with superior enemy forces, and there he died. This is July 1944, Smolevichi district, near Minsk. Well, so to summarize.
  28. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 22 February 2018 15: 00
    +1
    Well ... well to Rashi ...
    The stock of northern furry animals will quickly grow on frozen hamburger carcasses.
  29. flicker
    flicker 22 February 2018 16: 08
    +2
    What are they tormented with? They need to immediately learn to give up, much easier than freezing.
  30. ZVO
    ZVO 22 February 2018 17: 19
    0
    Suddenly, someone wants to really look at things from the inside out, so that there would be no "hat-making, diapers, Coca-Cola" and other nonsense in my head.
    For understanding...
    An inside look at KMB US Marine ...
    https://oper.ru/news/read.php?t=1051604681
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  32. sounddoc
    sounddoc 22 February 2018 19: 39
    +3
    Yes, and at the same time, do not forget the course of preparation for the Russian land ....
  33. NKVD
    NKVD 22 February 2018 21: 21
    0
    The Russian character must be taught, not winter. That's when they want to fight
  34. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 23 February 2018 05: 08
    0
    Yes, German prisoners of war had a hard time. Let the Americans temper in advance to build the Northern Railway.
  35. datur
    datur 24 February 2018 10: 40
    0
    the main thing is to forget the battle diapers and hamburgers !!!! drinks lol
  36. k_ply
    k_ply 24 February 2018 18: 44
    +1
    US Marines began to prepare for the "Russian winter"

    They started?! ... I don’t know about the Russian winter, but they have been preparing for the North Korean and Scandinavian Norwegian for a long time.
    Marine Corps Mining Training Center (MP) Pickle Meadows in Bridgeport, California. The CA was created back in 1951, since 1976 the center has been functioning all year. Specifically, in the winter training period (December - April), four-week training for maintaining a database in the mountain-arctic regions of 4 battalions of the MP ATF and Pacific Fleet, and one battalion, take place here. reserve MP.
    In addition, annually in the North. Norway, in the framework of a series of NATO exercises (Tim Work, Could Winter, Express), a BP is being conducted with the participation of units of the 2nd Expeditionary Brigade of the ATF MP (formerly the 4th BRMP, since 1984 S.Norway is its borough operational purpose) and units of the MP of Great Britain and the Netherlands (1 BTG each as part of the Anglo-Dutch brigade).
    1. k_ply
      k_ply 24 February 2018 19: 06
      0
      CA

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Warfare_Tr
      aining_Center
  37. k_ply
    k_ply 25 February 2018 18: 13
    +1
    Quote: Andrey K

    laughing

    Title of the video: Landing of the brave American Marines in Russia Rzhach
    Ha! Jester coots ...
    - Training landing of beginners British 3rd Marine Brigade in the Iraqi port of Basra (already during the occupation).
    "Grandfathers" deliberately put young on camera into a muddy estuary.