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Theater of the Olympic absurdity. Russian curlers will return the IOC bronze

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Theater Olympic absurdity continues. Russian curlingists, who occupied (for the first time in stories national sport) third place at the Olympics, said that they would return their bronze medals to the International Olympic Committee. This is reported with reference to Alexander Krushelnitsky and the Russian Curling Federation.


Recall that after the conquest of the Olympic "bronze", even in the western segments of social networks, numerous praise began to appear both about the game of the Russian married couple and sympathies with it. And just a few days later, it was announced that WADA doping officers had found “traces of meldonium” in the Krushelnitsky doping tests — allegedly in the very samples that he had already passed at the Olympics in Pyeongchang.

Press Secretary of the Russian Curling Federation Valentina Parinova on the air TC "Russia 1" stated that Alexander Krushelnytsky and Anastasia Bryzgalova decided to return the IOC awards, refusing to hear the so-called exit panel of the International Sports Arbitration.

Theater of the Olympic absurdity. Russian curlers will return the IOC bronze


The argument is as follows:
The court in any case would decide to deprive us of medals. But since we really recognize the fact that meldonium was found in his doping test, we are giving medals, respectively.


Against this background, Alexander Krushelnitsky himself stated that he had never used drugs prohibited in sports.

In fact, a precedent is being created which says that it is now easy for an athlete to deprive the rewards directly at the games themselves - for this, it is enough for any interested person to enter the doping officers room, which is open for several hours a day. Russian athletes themselves suspect that Meldony Alexander could be mixed in food and beverages.

Therefore, it can be assumed that the theater of “meldonian” absurdity, even if the use of this drug does not make any sense in the very same curling, will continue.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 22 February 2018 05: 50
    +22
    And what do we want .. There is a war going on against us .. But in the war all means are good ... That's interesting .. Norway as promised ... Therapeutic exceptions are made public ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2018 06: 02
      +32
      we were sure in advance of such provocations, and discussed it here on the site, but the athletes who went "gray" to the "Olympics" hoped for something. I think until
      closing "games" something else will be like that. enemies will not calm down. Well, Russia should not have medals by definition, if they already started a war on all fronts, they won’t stop, especially if our authorities, sports and not only, are engaged in coping, but fortunately there are true patriots of the Motherland in a good sense:
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 22 February 2018 06: 41
        +19
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        we were sure in advance of such provocations, and discussed it here on the site, but the athletes who went "gray" to the "Olympics" hoped for something. I think until
        closing "games" something else will be like that. enemies will not calm down. Well, Russia should not have medals by definition

        Indeed, why go where they are not waiting for you, and humiliate? All these fans look pathetic, especially when the state of Russia generally has self-restrained from the fight against the ill-fated IOC and has obeyed its behavior.
        Yes, if curlers began to be removed for doping, it means they will soon reach the chess players. What did you want?
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2018 07: 09
          +13
          Quote: Stas157
          All these fans look pathetic

          on the contrary ... These Fans remind everyone that, from the USSR, Such would not have passed. It was a truly great country. Winner Country. what they are doing with Russia now is just a shame on the authorities ...
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          2. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 22 February 2018 08: 43
            +10
            Patriot Law - there is no flag, anthem, homeland, and there is no victory gold
            1. Solomon Kane
              Solomon Kane 22 February 2018 08: 59
              +11
              In Soviet times, not a single bastard would risk betraying our athlete like that, because the specialists from the foreign intelligence service, these are not bureaucrats from the NOC, would not have smeared “snot with concern”, they would have found “meldonium legs” long ago and punished them. ....
              1. seos
                seos 22 February 2018 12: 41
                +6
                These athletes are deeply flanked by the fact that they were framed .... they will not even sue, because they didn’t go there for pendants .... They will get their BMWs ... from Medved ... at the expense of taxpayers ...
                PS: It was clear to everyone that attempts to sprinkle meldonium would be ... but the craving for a freebie won ..... would eat a Korean doshirak and it would be their happiness ..
    2. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 22 February 2018 06: 03
      +14
      Meldonium does not affect this sport at all, for example, an American or a German would not have been paid attention at all, the humiliation of Russia continues. I don’t understand, but these gold-bearing countries are checking or just our wool, I will never believe that they are all clean. In short, our leadership continues to drool, you can’t get any protection from them. am
      1. KonoGon
        KonoGon 22 February 2018 10: 51
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        for example, they wouldn’t pay attention to an American or a German
        This is absolutely accurate. Meldonium is your prerogative. They don’t use it here.
        1. Nitochkin
          Nitochkin 22 February 2018 11: 30
          +4
          I give you the Russian proverb: "keep silent, you will marry a clever one."
          Listing meldonium in the list of prohibited drugs is also your tricks. The drug is actually not a dope.
          Z.Y. Say hello to Simone Biles and the “brothers” Williams.
          1. KonoGon
            KonoGon 22 February 2018 11: 35
            +1
            Quote: Nitochkin
            I give you the Russian proverb: "keep silent, you will marry a clever one."
            Well, use it and you will be happy.
            1. Alone
              Alone 23 February 2018 13: 32
              +2
              Do you propose to switch to KARNITIN? Over what puddles of it do your "athletes" eat, do not know?
        2. Igor V
          Igor V 22 February 2018 12: 21
          +4
          Quote: KonoGon
          Quote: Spartanez300
          for example, they wouldn’t pay attention to an American or a German
          This is absolutely accurate. Meldonium is your prerogative. They don’t use it here.

          Meldonium is recognized as a dope solely because it is used on the territory of the former USSR. On your territory there are similar drugs that protect the heart from stress, widely used by athletes, but, of course, not accepted for doping.
          1. KonoGon
            KonoGon 22 February 2018 12: 47
            0
            Quote: Igor V
            On your territory there are similar drugs that protect the heart from stress, widely used by athletes, but, of course, not accepted for doping.
            Maybe yes, maybe no. But you, in this absolutely plain text, acknowledge violations. And what was to be expected?
            1. Igor V
              Igor V 22 February 2018 22: 01
              +1
              Violations are that our athletes did not use your drugs. Now, apparently, they began to use it. Someone fat gain. But the fact of the matter is that using meldonium now makes no sense if there are drugs with the same effect and not prohibited. But the main question remains: why should the curlingist take a cardiopreparation? He does not experience any transcendental loads.
              1. KonoGon
                KonoGon 23 February 2018 00: 44
                0
                Quote: Igor V
                the main question remains: why does the curlingist need a cardiopreparation?
                Well, ask him. His coach admitted that he accepted until 2016.
            2. aliis-M
              aliis-M 22 February 2018 22: 56
              +1
              Violations that are considered violations by the command of the left heel of the right ear, in order to eliminate competitors, yes, we recognize such violations. Only now we do not recognize the IOC as an objective organization.
    3. Amurets
      Amurets 22 February 2018 06: 05
      +11
      Quote: Vard
      And what do we want ..

      And that is what we want us to carry on the table. What is it for drug addicts in the United States or asthmatics in Norway to feel good? Or to pay fines if our athletes win cases against WADA, Rodchenkov and the Olympic Committee in civil courts: "As a condition for the partial or full restoration of membership in the International Olympic Committee (IOC), Russia transferred $ 15 million to this organization. This is reported AFP with reference to sources.
      The money was to be paid by the IOC before the end of the 2018 Olympic Games, which will end on February 25. This was also one of the conditions. The money transferred should go to the development of a global anti-doping system. "
      Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2018/02/22/rossiya-vy
      platila-mok-15-mln-na-razvitie-antidopingovoy-sis
      Temy
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 22 February 2018 06: 07
      +18
      If curling is sport, then weightlifting, does any kind of masturbation work? lol In the homeland of this "sport" balls are rolled for a beer. And it would be nice to throw medals in the face of the organizer of this scandal in public. belay
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        1. zyzx
          zyzx 22 February 2018 07: 14
          +4
          A man from a country that defeated everyone, why did your skiers croak, say our skiers again under dope. But to the Norwegians who have collected all the gold, they have no complaints ... you have such brave people there ...
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 22 February 2018 10: 43
          +5
          Quote: bane's jacket
          Aren't you on the video?

          Most likely in the video you, as part of the task of provocations.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 22 February 2018 06: 54
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        If curling is sport, then weightlifting, does any kind of masturbation work? lol In the homeland of this "sport" balls are rolled for a beer .:
        Oleg, I recall the shots from the films "Inspector-open-minded" and about the "gendarme" Louis de Phineas.
    5. antivirus
      antivirus 22 February 2018 07: 53
      0
      no war.
      it is necessary to cut loot more thoroughly. There is a weak link and it is excluded from "making money"
      our sport has not become an independent segment of the market economy-life of Russia. Until.
      It’s not easy to decide, to help in something, but to have your own funds to “facilitate” the necessary decisions.
      "IT'S CHILDREN'S GROWTH DISEASES."
      I hope that in 3-5-7 years our sports men will PURPOSE "partners" in competitions WITHOUT PITNESS.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2018 08: 51
        +5
        Theater of the Olympic absurdity.
        here is the absurdity:


        The Russian Olympics Support Fund has purchased a batch of German-made cars for the Russian Olympic Games winners in 2018, according to the website of the Moscow Talking radio station.
        It is noted that for each of the athletes who have won gold, silver and bronze medals, a specific model will be prepared. In total, the fund purchased 140 cars, on the doors and hoods of which the symbols of the organization are depicted.
        In addition, the Olympians will be paid bonus, the size of which will reach up to four million rubles.
        The Board of Trustees of the Russian Olympics Support Fund includes Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, who is the head of the organization.
        by
        1. seos
          seos 22 February 2018 12: 45
          +3
          They are not humiliated by athletes who are mercenaries ... but by Russia .... athletes will not remain offended ...
        2. Esoteric
          Esoteric 23 February 2018 13: 43
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          In total, the fund purchased 140 cars

          The lips rolled ... And fifty - "for the eyes"
    6. Baloo
      Baloo 23 February 2018 14: 22
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      And what do we want .. There is a war going on against us .. But in the war all means are good ... That's interesting .. Norway as promised ... Therapeutic exceptions are made public ...

      Do not scold me strongly, I’ve thought, maybe it’s the Norwegians who set up everything in retaliation for "... a team of asthmatics ..."? request belay
  2. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 22 February 2018 05: 50
    +17
    So all this was expected before the start of the Olympics: there will be provocations and they will pick up medals.
    1. Mussasi
      Mussasi 22 February 2018 06: 00
      +12
      Yes, everyone who went said that they bent you there again. ...
      1. Bosch
        Bosch 22 February 2018 06: 08
        +1
        They were sent by Himself.
        1. seos
          seos 22 February 2018 12: 47
          +4
          He did not send them .... he gave them the choice to decide for himself .... any other decision on his part would hit him just before the election ....
          I would have decided not to send it back - those who were for shipment and for turnover would have mixed with shit ...
          These games are a substitute for him ...
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 22 February 2018 19: 45
        +3
        Quote: Mussashi
        Yes, everyone who went said that they bent you there again. ...

        We went to humiliate and got it.
  3. sgr291158
    sgr291158 22 February 2018 05: 52
    +3
    Who's next?
    1. Verkhomnapule
      Verkhomnapule 22 February 2018 06: 04
      +8
      probably loner skaters and hockey players, the most likely candidates for gold ......
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 22 February 2018 23: 58
        0
        Russian hockey players have never won at the Olympic Games, and here is some kind of incomprehensible team, under the Olympic bagels.
        1. Esoteric
          Esoteric 23 February 2018 13: 53
          +1
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Russian hockey players have never won at the Olympic Games, but here is some kind of incomprehensible team, under the Olympic bagels ...

          ... kicked the "tail" of the Czechs ... lol
          Yes, by the way,
          Zubkov confirmed the presence of a prohibited drug in a doping test of bobsledder Sergeyeva
          President of the Russian Bobsleigh and Skeleton Federation of Russia Alexander Zubkov confirmed that a banned drug was found in the body of a bobsledder Nadezhda Sergeeva.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 23 February 2018 17: 39
            0
            Not a single gold at the Olympic Games ....
  4. Verkhomnapule
    Verkhomnapule 22 February 2018 06: 02
    +7
    They warned about this even before deciding to go to the games, so if you have to swallow such provocations, they will not allow Russia to live quietly for a long time and it is very sad !!!
    1. kipod
      kipod 22 February 2018 07: 26
      +3
      Quote: Verkhomnapule
      they warned about this even before deciding to go to the games, so you have to swallow such provocations,

      in general, it looks like banal billing information and envy.
      According to Inside the Games, Krushelnitsky, in communication with Russian officials, said he was afraid of one of his teammates at a training camp in Japan who was not invited to travel to Pyeongchang, who could pour meldonium into his drink.
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 22 February 2018 10: 49
      +7
      Quote: Verkhomnapule
      they won’t let Russia live quietly for a long time and it’s very sad !!!

      There is another way, to put the liberals in power in Russia, surrender Crimea, Syria, LDNR, agree to the disposal of chemical and radioactive waste in Russia and sail in line with the US ideology ... then you will not be saddened?
  5. bane's jacket
    bane's jacket 22 February 2018 06: 27
    +4
    Well done Russians! They didn’t clutch at the rewards like many before them, did not declare “We will not give it back”, and without waiting for a decision they decided to return it. I do not agree with many who write that this actually means a guilty plea. Nothing like this.
    As far as I know, the Russian side has submitted requests to all interested structures, including the special services of the South Caucasus, with a request to help sort out the situation, because many understand that this situation is absurd and a very large number of people around the world are on the side of Russian athletes.
    I think until
    closing "games" something else will be like that. enemies will not calm down.

    You have enemies everywhere. Have you looked under your bed today?


    Meldonium does not affect this sport at all, for example, he would not have paid any attention to an American or a German, the humiliation of Russia continues

    You are the same "experts" as you explain. They will believe with pleasure.
    The coach of the Russian curling player Alexander Krushelnitsky Dmitry Melnikov commented on the SE information about the detection of meldonium in the athlete's doping test.

    “Nobody told me about this (a positive doping test by Krushelnytsky. - Note“ SE ”), Melnikov said. “This is the first time I've heard of this.” Alexander finished taking meldonium in 2016, when the drug was banned. Since then never took.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 22 February 2018 06: 48
      +4
      Quote: bane jacket
      Well done Russians! They didn’t clutch at the rewards like many before them, did not declare “We will not give it back”, and without waiting for a decision they decided to return it. I do not agree with many who write that this actually means a guilty plea. Nothing like this.

      And what does it mean?
      1. bane's jacket
        bane's jacket 22 February 2018 06: 58
        +5
        Quote: Stas157

        And what does it mean?

        Only that there was meldonium in the blood (and this is unequivocal, since two doping tests showed this) and the medals would still be taken. So why wait for this and shout "You're lying!" And so - the athletes behaved in the highest degree with dignity and, as I already wrote, asked to help me figure out how this could happen, promising full cooperation.
        I hope to sort it out.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 22 February 2018 12: 36
          +4
          Quote: bane's jacket
          Only that there was meldonium in the blood (and this is unequivocal, since two doping tests showed this) and the medals would still be taken.

          So this is a confession of guilt! What other "underwater" meanings can you see in this situation?
    2. Nitochkin
      Nitochkin 22 February 2018 11: 36
      +4
      Who brought meldonium, the drug for recovery after exertion, to the list of banned and for what purpose? Knowing, at the same time, that this drug is used mainly by Russian athletes. What do you say, mattress?
  6. BecmepH
    BecmepH 22 February 2018 06: 30
    +9
    Russian athletes themselves suspect that meldonium Alexandru could be mixed in food and drink.

    There is nothing to mix here. They may not have performed the analysis. They just said that there is meldonium (the first thing that came to mind). But gentlemen are believed by word.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 22 February 2018 19: 47
      +2
      Quote: BecmepH
      Russian athletes themselves suspect that meldonium Alexandru could be mixed in food and drink.

      There is nothing to mix here. They may not have performed the analysis. They just said that there is meldonium (the first thing that came to mind). But gentlemen are believed by word.

      Most likely there were specially prepared test tubes, also an option.
  7. Bastinda
    Bastinda 22 February 2018 06: 30
    +4
    As an option, a point of view. (Not mine, just assuming different options)
    Pre-planned action. Meldonium supplementation, detection, and demonstrative waiver of medals.
    Bringing the situation to the point of absurdity (meldonium in curling?). Restoring a positive image of Russia. Discrediting WADA.
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 12: 48
      +1
      in fact, the share of absurdity regarding claims against our country is already annoying - from the demands to withdraw the missing troops from the Donbass to meldonium in curling.
      Or the same skaters or tennis players - well, what for forbid them to meldonium, which only reduces injuries in training.
  8. lis-ik
    lis-ik 22 February 2018 06: 32
    +3
    Russia is not suitable for the role of terpils, it is more likely to be “whiners” to Poland, the Baltic states and other countries, and these “athletes” for the western citizen (spectator) personify the Russian state and all the humiliations of these businessmen are automatically transferred to the country. And because of this, I believe that in spite of all their beautiful words and gestures of these “athletes” they will bend and bend, and they will persistently turn their cheeks.
  9. Wolka
    Wolka 22 February 2018 06: 32
    +3
    a very serious precedent has arisen, you can’t hide the awl in a bag, I hope the evidence of provocation will be presented soon and the Mok will have to return the medals to their rightful owners ...
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 22 February 2018 19: 48
      +3
      Quote: Volka
      a very serious precedent has arisen, you can’t hide the awl in a bag, I hope the evidence of provocation will be presented soon and the Mok will have to return the medals to their rightful owners ...

      No action has yet been taken, at least checking in an independent laboratory in the presence of our specialists and the IOC Commissioner.
  10. sabakina
    sabakina 22 February 2018 06: 43
    +5
    the theater of the “meldonium” absurdity, even if the use of this drug makes no sense in the same curling, will continue.
    That's it! If doping in curling can help anyone, it’s a stone or a mop.
  11. eugraphus
    eugraphus 22 February 2018 06: 48
    +21
    The whole broadcast on TV is filled with moans, as athletes from Russia are humiliated. And what, someone thought that would be different? Just some kind of masochism. It’s especially not nice to see people like Guberniev, who choked with delight and became indignant that athletes from Russia did not live up to his expectations. When a girl goes to work in a brothel, one can hardly expect that she will be treated with reverence. My opinion is that if the Russians didn’t go to the Olympics on their own, the world would not collapse, but there would be less scandals. That hockey, that figure skating without Russian athletes would not be so spectacular, and therefore less profitable. The status of the Olympic champion, where the strongest athletes did not compete, would drop. The IOC would have to urgently change its policy to maintain prestige. Well, if they did not begin to change, would they continue to degrade.
    Now athletes from Russia, by their arrival, have increased the status of the Olympiads. They showed that in order to get there, athletes are ready to abandon the flag, the coat of arms, the anthem, and any native symbolism that symbolizes the Motherland, which means that the Olympics are more important than the Motherland.
    An athlete from Russia who won a medal carries it in his pocket. He pulled it out, quickly showed it to the camera, wrapped it with a ribbon and hid it back. Well, someone is proud of it, but I can’t!
    1. bane's jacket
      bane's jacket 22 February 2018 07: 23
      +3
      Quote: eugraphus
      My opinion is that if the Russians didn’t go to the Olympics on their own, the world would not collapse, but there would be less scandals.

      If the Russians did not go to this Olympics, they would not go to all subsequent ones. Automatically. It’s good that no one is interested in the opinion of people like you. Including team captains of the same Putin.
      1. Kelwin
        Kelwin 22 February 2018 10: 08
        +4
        It’s good that no one is interested in the opinion of people like you

        Che everyone is silent, well, let me tell you. So you have to beat your face, perhaps even with your feet.
        1. bane's jacket
          bane's jacket 22 February 2018 11: 09
          +1
          Quote: KelWin
          It’s good that no one is interested in the opinion of people like you

          Che everyone is silent, well, let me tell you. So you have to beat your face, perhaps even with your feet.

          Well, what else can be heard clever from the "patriot"? Well, perhaps:
          - Watering amers in Syria.
          - Shoot down the fuck, Jewish planes.
          - Stop supplying titanium to Boeing
          .................
          Only here neither you, nor the other, nor the third, nor even the fourth, can you do. Especially from the couch. wink
          1. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 22 February 2018 11: 19
            +1
            - Watering amers in Syria.
            - Shoot down the fuck, Jewish planes.
            - Stop supplying titanium to Boeing

            It’s impossible - the "partners" will not understand ...
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 22 February 2018 19: 51
            +2
            Quote: bane's jacket
            Well, what else can be heard clever from the "patriot"? Well, perhaps:
            - Watering amers in Syria.
            - Shoot down the fuck, Jewish planes.
            - Stop supplying titanium to Boeing

            And rightly so.
            Only here neither you, nor the other, nor the third, nor even the fourth, can you do. Especially from the sofa

            It’s not yet evening, everything is just beginning. we are polite, cultured, well-mannered, not like the Fashington macaques from the countries of the hegemonic evil.
      2. yehat
        yehat 22 February 2018 12: 50
        +3
        in fact, the Olympiad in our country has been doing a lot of harm lately.
        look what good she got there? Some expenses and scandals.
    2. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 23 February 2018 10: 14
      0
      They would hear your words, it is very true said
  12. Lynx33
    Lynx33 22 February 2018 06: 51
    +5
    And what did our corrupt athletes want? Betray the homeland and live happily ever after? This is not the last, several more will be taken away, it is time to bet who is next.
    In general, I believe that sport should be for health, and not for the sake of money and fame. Events such as the Olympics should be in every city, and ban global shows, as causing great harm to the health of athletes.
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 22 February 2018 07: 53
      +3
      Quote: Lynx33
      And what did our corrupt athletes want?

      what did they sell ??
      Quote: Lynx33
      Betray the homeland and live happily ever after?

      they just defended their homeland at the games, and leave your "live by the concepts"
      Quote: Lynx33
      In general, I believe that sport should be for health, and not for the sake of money and fame.

      I’m very glad that you are one! and the less you are, the easier it is to breathe in the streets
      Quote: Lynx33
      Events such as the Olympics should be in every city, and ban global shows, as causing great harm to the health of athletes.

      wassat fool fool fool
      1. seos
        seos 22 February 2018 12: 54
        +3
        There are not a few of them .... Modern sport in Russia is an activity for the elite, and all Russians pay money for it ...
        Sports palaces and all kinds of Olympic villages for whom are being built, on budget money? I don’t see the difference between the sports palace and the oligarch’s palace, and I don’t get there and there, and the money for this ... is taken from our pocket request
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 22 February 2018 14: 25
          0
          Quote: seos
          Modern sport in Russia is an occupation for the elite,

          fool Living in million-plus cities - an activity for the elite? fool
          1. seos
            seos 22 February 2018 18: 59
            +1
            The question is different ....
            A sports palace was built and maintained with taxpayers' money ... how does it differ from a private sports club if classes are paid for there and there?
          2. Baloo
            Baloo 22 February 2018 19: 53
            +1
            Quote: Tiksi-3
            Quote: seos
            Modern sport in Russia is an occupation for the elite,

            fool Living in million-plus cities - an activity for the elite? fool

            Well, why, in the Republic of Tatarstan in some district centers there is an ice palace, a swimming pool and even its own Victory Park with real military equipment.
  13. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 07: 04
    +5
    The Americans themselves in their show ridiculed doping in curling, the host says, “what the hell is doping there, probably for this?” Took shots from the competition and put in a special effect, a stone from the hands of Krushelnitsky flies exactly in the center of the circle and explodes there. That is, ordinary people understand that doping in this sport is absolutely inappropriate. In social networks, it’s true that some “advanced” people began to squeak that curlers rub a mop up to 2500 square meters per training, to which they were told that the usual technical woman Baba Zoya washes 5 times more floors every day.
  14. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 07: 08
    +11
    Quote: eugraphus
    The status of the Olympic champion, where the strongest athletes did not compete, would drop. The IOC would have to urgently change its policy to maintain prestige. Well, if they did not begin to change, would they continue to degrade.

    ----------------------------------------
    When this so-called Olympiad began and the arbitration proceedings at CAS took place, which justified our athletes, a number of experts said that the Olympics had become an ordinary commercial tournament where the organizers themselves decide which stars to invite to the competition. That's all. This is the way it should be. That is, for the most part people who were hungry for money and fame went to the Olympics, they were called "Olympic athletes from Russia", and not the Russian team. And so it should apply to these Games.
  15. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 07: 12
    0
    Quote: bane's jacket
    Well done Russians! They didn’t clutch at the rewards like many before them, did not declare “We won’t give it back”, and without waiting for a decision they decided to return it. I do not agree with many who write that this actually means a confession of guilt.

    ----------------------------------
    Of course, not a confession of guilt, but a confession of a simple medical fact. Because thanks to this fact, that is, according to formal signs, the medals will still have to be returned. Although about meldonium, it was a single dose and did not give any inducing or forceful effect of meldonium, it’s just a cardioprotector. You can also eat ascorbic with the same success.
    1. bane's jacket
      bane's jacket 22 February 2018 07: 26
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      Although about meldonium, it was a single dose and did not give any inducing or forceful effect of meldonium, it’s just a cardioprotector. You can also eat ascorbic with the same success.

      Once again, for those in the tank.
      The coach of the Russian curling player Alexander Krushelnitsky Dmitry Melnikov commented on the SE information about the detection of meldonium in the athlete's doping test.
      “Nobody told me about this (a positive doping test by Krushelnytsky. - Note“ SE ”), Melnikov said. “This is the first time I've heard of this.” Alexander finished taking meldonium in 2016, when the drug was banned. Since then never took.
      1. Nitochkin
        Nitochkin 22 February 2018 11: 41
        +1
        From you are tight. Meldonium is taken after exercise, not before.
        Z.Y. Hi Simone Biles and the Williams Brothers.
    2. kipod
      kipod 22 February 2018 07: 29
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      It's just a cardioprotector. You can eat ascorbinka with the same success..

      Is it strange that dozens of athletes regularly ate it, did not know such an elementary thing? belay
      1. Seaman77
        Seaman77 22 February 2018 08: 48
        +2
        Quote: kipod
        dozens of athletes regularly ate it


        That's it, that regularly. To get the effect you need to take for a certain time. A single dose will give only a trace in the blood.
      2. Nitochkin
        Nitochkin 22 February 2018 11: 43
        +1
        They knew and ate until the stripes realized that they could be fucked by suddenly declaring meldonium to be a dope and banning it.
        You can also add ascorbic acid to the list and catch everyone who has vitamin C in their urine.
        At the same time, they write about analogues of meldonium that are not listed, and which "athletes" calmly accept.
  16. zyzx
    zyzx 22 February 2018 07: 16
    +1
    Well, according to media reports, we have already paid 15 lyam.
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 February 2018 07: 22
    +4
    Expressed a desire to go - be prepared for dirty tricks and humiliation. So that actions on the principle of "won a medal - passed a medal" may continue.
  18. eugraphus
    eugraphus 22 February 2018 07: 36
    +1
    Quote: bane's jacket
    If the Russians did not go to this Olympics, then they would not go to all subsequent ones. Automatically.

    Why did you believe in such a "machine". This is already some kind of sophisticated fiction by people like you, the IOC has removed the Russian team from the Olympics and will punish if the Russians do not go there ???
    1. bane's jacket
      bane's jacket 22 February 2018 08: 33
      0
      Quote: eugraphus
      Quote: bane's jacket
      If the Russians did not go to this Olympics, then they would not go to all subsequent ones. Automatically.

      Why did you believe in such a "machine". This is already some kind of sophisticated fiction by people like you, the IOC has removed the Russian team from the Olympics and will punish if the Russians do not go there ???

      We read the IOC Rules and find out what happens for a boycott.
      1. eugraphus
        eugraphus 22 February 2018 08: 49
        +1
        Where is the logic? Banned from going to the Olympics and will be punished if they don’t go there? In what rules did you see this absurdity?
        1. bane's jacket
          bane's jacket 22 February 2018 13: 44
          0
          Quote: eugraphus
          Where is the logic? Banned from going to the Olympics and will be punished if they don’t go there? In what rules did you see this absurdity?

          Is this really some kind of scary secret information?
          Why the Olympics boycott is suicide
          https://life.ru/t/спорт/1067468/vsie_ottienki_chi
          ernogho_pochiemu_boikot_olimpiady _ - _ samoubiistvo

          Can be isolated for eight years
          https://newizv.ru/news/sport/06-12-2017/chem-opas
          en-boykot-olimpiady

          What will happen in case of a boycott of the 2018 Olympics?
          https://tehnowar.ru/71809-chto-budet-v-sluchae-bo
          ykota-olimpiady-2018.html
      2. Nitochkin
        Nitochkin 22 February 2018 11: 46
        +2
        And who would declare a boycott? The IOC has banned travel, not Russia boycotted.
        1. Kachesgm
          Kachesgm 22 February 2018 11: 53
          0
          If some of my compatriots google, they would know that it was from the position of Russia that they added a number of rules to the IOC to prevent a boycott of the 2008 Beijing Olympics. Almost any mention or action to boycott the Olympics by officials of the delegation of this country automatically deprives her of participation in the next 8 years. in 2008, it was a click on the nose of the Americans who did not really want to host the Beijing Olympics. Here is another for development:
          "On August 9, 2008, the Georgian Olympic team, located in Beijing at the 2008 Olympics, in connection with the Ossetian war, decided to" hold a protest rally to draw world attention to what is happening in Georgia today. "According to the charter of the Olympic Committee, this would entail disqualification of athletes [45]. On the same day, the Georgian Olympic team, after meeting with the wife of Georgian President Saakashvili Sandra Rulofs, announced that she was leaving the Olympics. The Georgian Olympic team, in accordance with the Olympic charter, could be disqualified for eight years [46]. However, the Georgian team eventually stayed at the Olympics and continued to participate in the competition. Reportedly, "after the convincing request of President Saakashvili, the athletes changed their mind" "
          1. Nitochkin
            Nitochkin 22 February 2018 13: 31
            +1
            IOC forbade Georgia to go? Or striped? Here, the ban on leaving our athletes directly came from the IOC, i.e. there is no talk of any boycott from Russia.
            1. Kachesgm
              Kachesgm 22 February 2018 14: 06
              0
              The IOC did not forbid everyone. Accordingly, if at least someone from the presidential administration officially proposed to boycott and not let the remaining athletes go, then forward 8 years without sports movement ...
              Of course, it was nice to talk with athletes and nice not to advise going there, but someone would take it as pressure from above and ...
      3. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 23 February 2018 10: 23
        0
        To officially declare a boycott of the Olympiad and not go to not - completely different things, you could just not go without a boycott, and scandals would be avoided, and money would not be wasted
  19. savage1976
    savage1976 22 February 2018 07: 40
    +5
    Actually, what was planned is happening, these OIRs hang out on the 20th place (I won’t say anything, I’ll block it). We went and proved that Russian athletes were not capable of doping without anything, the investigation of mclaren was true.
    They chose shame and got the war in the appendage.
    And they could omit this pre-Olympic movement and be an example to follow in their own country and in the world too.
    The deflection was not appreciated by Western partners.))
    1. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 22 February 2018 07: 45
      +1
      Quote: savage1976
      Actually, what was planned is happening, these OIRs hang out on the 20th place (I won’t say anything, I’ll block it). We went and proved that Russian athletes were not capable of doping without anything, the investigation of mclaren was true. They chose shame and in the appendage got a war.

      Well, well done Western specials. service. They are able to organize such events. Someone somewhere in some American office now receives gratitude and promotion ... And someone somewhere in the Russian office (offices) receive a star ...
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        1. savage1976
          savage1976 22 February 2018 08: 54
          +2
          Absolutely agree. At our top, no one is responsible for anything at all. Responsibility only to those who could not or could not get it.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 22 February 2018 14: 39
        +4
        Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
        .And someone somewhere in the Russian office (s) receive a star ...

        Better to start than to end wink
  20. Vard
    Vard 22 February 2018 07: 49
    +6
    I think the funniest thing will be at the end of the Olympiad ... They will say ... you see they have only bronze and silver medals ... but before there was a lot of gold ... it means there was doping ...
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    2. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 23 February 2018 10: 25
      0
      Yes, athletes were even asked such questions from different interviews ... But in the end, selfish interest won
  21. Baloo
    Baloo 22 February 2018 08: 09
    +7
    In each large office center, you can recruit candidates for the Olympic curling team. I’ve wondered why chess and dominoes are still not included in the Olympic Games. Russia would have good chances for medals.
    I’m wondering, where are the guarantees that the tubes were not replaced? I apologize for the details, but Krushelnytsky’s analyzes should theoretically differ from those of Nekrushelnytsky’s. Where is the evidence, apart from the inscription on the test tubes, that these are his individual and unique analyzes belay
    1. KonoGon
      KonoGon 22 February 2018 11: 33
      +1
      Quote: Balu
      why so far chess and dominoes have not been included in the Olympic Games. Russia would have good chances for medals
      Because the boards are oak?
    2. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 23 February 2018 10: 27
      +1
      Meldonium will also be found among chess players, provided that he is an “athlete from Russia”
  22. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 08: 24
    +2
    Quote: bane's jacket
    Once again, for those in the tank.

    -------------------------
    Once again for those who are supposedly very smart. I’m talking about a media fact that said that “the dose found was equal to a single use.” I don’t say that Krushelnitsky took or didn’t take anything there. I'm talking about what they allegedly discovered.
    1. bane's jacket
      bane's jacket 22 February 2018 08: 32
      0
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: bane's jacket
      Once again, for those in the tank.

      -------------------------
      Once again for those who are supposedly very smart. I’m talking about a media fact that said that “the dose found was equal to a single use.” I don’t say that Krushelnitsky took or didn’t take anything there. I'm talking about what they allegedly discovered.

      Sorry, but it’s impossible to determine by the detected “dose” whether this is a single application or repeated. This can be determined from previous doping tests. But now I understood what my mistake was: you wrote about a single use, and not that he did not take meldonium in principle.
      I apologize for that.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 22 February 2018 08: 56
        +3
        Quote: bane's jacket
        Sorry, but it’s impossible to determine by the detected “dose” whether this is a single application or repeated. This can be determined from previous doping tests. But now I understood what my mistake was: you wrote about a single use, and not that he did not take meldonium in principle.
        I apologize for that.

        You both did not doubt the main thing, but is it his test? Where is the evidence, besides the inscriptions, that these are the samples of Krushelnitsky and not Nekrushelnitsky.
        1. Altona
          Altona 22 February 2018 14: 25
          +1
          Quote: Balu
          You both did not doubt the main thing, but is it his test? Where is the evidence, besides the inscriptions, that these are the samples of Krushelnitsky and not Nekrushelnitsky.

          ----------------------
          These are questions to WADA, IOC and CAS. We are not engaged in identification of test tubes. As I understand it, a unique code is put on a swirling tube, this code is entered in front of the athlete’s name in the list. And that’s it. And we really can’t know what is really being presented there, the tubes are stored as if by third parties.
          1. Baloo
            Baloo 22 February 2018 19: 42
            +2
            Quote: Altona
            a unique code is put on a swirling tube, this code is entered opposite the athlete’s name in the list.

            A test tube with the same unique code could be prepared in advance. The inventor of meldronate himself claims that it was enough to rub the edge of the glass with a crystal of meldronate so that it could then be identified. A muddy story. A simple question: quantitative or qualitative? the test tube could be in advance with meldonium, to this, that is, rinsed with a solution of meldonium. hi
  23. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 08: 29
    +2
    Quote: kipod
    Is it strange that dozens of athletes regularly ate it, did not know such an elementary thing?

    ---------------------------------------
    Dozens of lawyers, and not pharmacologists, of whom WADA actually consists of ban drugs, completely disregarding their pharmacokinetics. In the West, there are analogues of both mildranate and other drugs that simply protect the heart muscle from overload. At the same time, Western athletes are in full use of TUE (therapeutic authorization to take the drug) and use lethal doses of doping and drugs. By the way, the IOC did not ban doping players, but completely pure athletes, and these are Isinbayeva, Shipulin, Legkov and others. All this hype about doping just created a negative background around Russia. But it was not a matter of doping. Well, you probably don’t have critical thinking, so hav your Yediot (through the letter I) Ahronot.
  24. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 08: 31
    +2
    Quote: Balu
    I’m wondering, where are the guarantees that the tubes were not replaced? I apologize for the details, but Krushelnytsky’s analyzes should theoretically differ from those of Nekrushelnytsky’s.

    ---------------------------
    But there are no guarantees in fact. The entrance to the room with test tubes almost the whole day. Records from surveillance cameras have probably already been classified. In general, as Bryzgalova’s wife began to admire him, they immediately arranged a “doping” test tube.
  25. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 08: 31
    +2
    Quote: Vard
    I think the funniest thing will be at the end of the Olympiad ... They will say ... you see they have only bronze and silver medals ... but before there was a lot of gold ... it means there was doping ...

    --------------------------
    Already said.
  26. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 08: 36
    0
    Quote: bane's jacket
    Sorry, but it’s impossible to determine by the detected “dose” whether this is a single application or repeated. This can be determined from previous doping tests. But now I understood what my mistake was: you wrote about a single use, and not that he did not take meldonium in principle.

    --------------------------
    According to previous tests, his urine is almost spring water, according to the press. The IOC, by two commissions, selected "pure Russian athletes." Now this situation is playing against the IOC. What the hell did you pick out there? And plays into the hands of WADA. Our anti-doping system works, we grab the dopeers right away, that they still have no time to cool their urine. That is, it gives “laboratory assistants” from WADA even more trump cards against IOC officials.
  27. BAI
    BAI 22 February 2018 08: 48
    +4
    We went for humiliation, got what they were looking for.
  28. CooL_SnipeR
    CooL_SnipeR 22 February 2018 08: 54
    +2
    The hare was deprived of rewards because he has 5 legs laughing
  29. Moskovit
    Moskovit 22 February 2018 09: 03
    +3
    Meldonius somehow found himself in his analyzes. Even all kinds of mokee understand that this is some kind of nonsense, so there are no tantrums about this. They could have mixed in, but in this case the result is still canceled, just the athlete is not punished. Those who say that they say you can go into the room and pour in are simply ridiculous. This is not to throw a pinch of salt into the borsch - all samples are stored in special unopened tubes, and even with digital codes.
    Unfortunately, after paying a fine of 15 million and the consent of the authorities to a colorless team, the thought creeps in that there was really some kind of scam in Sochi. Of course, this does not cancel the arbitrariness of Wada and Mok, but we helped to dig a hole for ourselves.
    Peter the Great, after the defeat near Narva, did not fall into hysteria, but rather rebuilt the army, and eventually won. I would like this Korean Narva of domestic sports to push for radical changes in the management of training for Russian athletes. And we’ll still get medals.
  30. Siberian
    Siberian 22 February 2018 09: 46
    +1
    Yes, nonsense. Nothing to return. If any urine officers are authorized there, then let them come to the apartment with witnesses and remove the MEDAL. Farce, so he is!
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 22 February 2018 09: 50
      +1
      Yes, I also forgot: to provide coverage in international media. And a medal - only in exchange for urine! Return everything to everyone.
  31. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 10: 25
    +1
    Quote: Moskovit
    Unfortunately, after paying a fine of 15 million and the consent of the authorities to a colorless team, the thought creeps in that there was really some kind of scam in Sochi.

    -----------------------------
    Even if there was, at least a bunch of scams. Where is the presumption of innocence? Why is the collective responsibility of all athletes? Why are Russian athletes with a completely clean reputation not allowed? That is, discrimination and violation by the IOC of the Olympic Charter. Second, in all interviews, Rodchenkov praises that he himself organized and implemented the "doping system." RUSADA is an independent laboratory. What does the "independent laboratory" have to do with the state? If he carried out Mutko’s personal instructions, it means that he simply did some favor personally to Mr. Mutko. And that’s all. There was no direct subordination between Mutko and RUSADA. If at least the president asks me to do something, then he must first present some kind of document, on the basis of which I must act. But Rodchenkov on the basis of what acted? His greed and violation of the job description.
  32. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 22 February 2018 10: 31
    +3
    I was not at all surprised by this event, on the contrary I expected it - I could not do without a doping scandal. The only thing that seems not logical in this story is that supposedly doping was in curling !!! Where there is no use from him. It’s clear that this is a setup of pure water, but we could at least try and find doping with skiers, for example ...
  33. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 10: 45
    +1
    Quote: Moskovit
    They could have mixed in, but in this case the result is still canceled, just the athlete is not punished.

    -----------------------------------------
    Well, how not to punish? Even as punished. 4 years of disqualification it shines, now they write, but they will regret and give only TWO!
  34. belui
    belui 22 February 2018 11: 16
    +2
    Once they allow themselves to wipe their feet, since there is no pride, if they humbled themselves and went, why not ...
  35. Angina
    Angina 22 February 2018 11: 28
    +2
    I remember a long time ago, we in the courtyard, modestly retelling a trifle that happened, usually added, for example, “Vanya, the Soviet Union” to imitate the television. The hero of the event thus turned from a kid to a titan. "If cho - I can." The story itself became planetary in scope. It was natural to breathe. Be proud of your country. For a long time there is neither that yard, nor those boys. Yes, and there is no homeland either.

    Therefore, looking from that courtyard, I still can’t take it “like that - take it and go to the Olympics without a flag” ... Okay, I admit with reservations: one life, my life is a sport, and my homeland is gone. And here you are on the podium, in your hands - the coveted medal. And then ... you bring her back, you are “good”, because otherwise “good uncles will not call you anymore” ... I don’t understand the behavior of such “athletes” here. Lower your life into ... yourself.

    There is a famous saga about the omnipotent ring. "My ring!" Maybe it should be shown in sports schools without fail? In order to educate at least the sporting character, since something went wrong with patriotism. You can, of course, bring a couple of earflaps with you, and post a ton of pictures 100500 times more on the Internet. A sort of teenage reaction to events. On the other hand, once the Homeland has been eliminated, what remains.

    And I would not give a medal. Still used direction and prompted.
  36. made13
    made13 22 February 2018 11: 40
    0
    Well done. Culturally sent to the IOC. The real winners. And let the waddle stick it into his chocolate eye.
  37. Graz
    Graz 22 February 2018 11: 47
    +1
    Russia must leave the IOC, there is nothing for us to do in this club of absurdity
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 22 February 2018 14: 42
      +5
      Quote: Graz
      Russia must leave the IOC, there is nothing for us to do in this club of absurdity

      and a bunch of scum, and the sport of great achievements has turned into an incubator for the disabled.
    2. vandarus
      vandarus 22 February 2018 17: 22
      0
      15 million dollars OCD, paid by the IOC. T.E. Russia recognized all claims, agreed with everything. Putin’s mess with the Sochi Olympics cost us a lot.
  38. Vard
    Vard 22 February 2018 13: 25
    0
    As there according to Sherlock ... Meldonium is produced only with us ... This is one fact ... Another fact ... The woman is very beautiful ... They want to breed them stupid ... So no politics ... usual bytovuha ... And it flashed that he knows who it is ... so there will be a banal stuffing of the guilty person ...
  39. Altona
    Altona 22 February 2018 14: 21
    0
    Quote: Altona
    The Americans themselves in their show ridiculed doping in curling, the host says, “what the hell is doping there, probably for this?” We took shots from the competition and put in a special effect, the stone from Krushelnytsky’s hands flies right in the center of the circle and explodes there.

    -------------------------------
    Here is a video of this show, watch the joke about Krushelnitsky at 2-44
  40. vandarus
    vandarus 22 February 2018 16: 24
    +1
    "War! Provocation! “Stop spraying boiling water already. Is a prohibited drug detected? Yes. Give me the medals.
    Specifically, at the 2018 Olympics: some athlete without a homeland and a flag caught the use of something forbidden and let him.
    And yes, if the "war", then there is nothing to whimper knew what we are getting into. And if we don’t pull, then raise the paws and return the Crimea.
    1. Graz
      Graz 22 February 2018 17: 35
      +2
      What salary do you get paid at the Washington regional committee?
      1. vandarus
        vandarus 23 February 2018 13: 10
        0
        Help with employment?
  41. Baloo
    Baloo 22 February 2018 19: 44
    +2
    Quote: KonoGon
    Quote: Spartanez300
    for example, they wouldn’t pay attention to an American or a German
    This is absolutely accurate. Meldonium is your prerogative. They don’t use it here.

    Because meldronate is not dope like prednisone or amphetamine.
  42. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 22 February 2018 23: 36
    +2
    In fact, a precedent is being created that suggests that it is now easy for an athlete to deprive the award directly at the games themselves - for this, any interested person just needs to get into the room of the doping officers, which is open for several hours a day
    In fact, there is the principle of NO presumption of innocence. This is exactly what Krushelnytsky had in mind, who did not begin to shake his nerves (and not only).
    1. vandarus
      vandarus 23 February 2018 13: 14
      +1
      Here the form of guilt (intent or negligence) does not matter. Prohibited drug detected. This is a disqualification. And the punishment will already depend on the form of guilt.
  43. Brigadier
    Brigadier 23 February 2018 13: 24
    +1
    Where these "athletes" went, they ran into something ...
    The fate of those who consciously and exclusively for the sake of money went to deliberate humiliation is not easy ...
    I thought it would blow, but it didn’t ...
    Or else there will be, oh-oh-oh! wassat
  44. Town Hall
    Town Hall 23 February 2018 13: 26
    +1
    2018 Olympics. Russian bobsledder Sergeyeva passed a positive doping test

    Russian bobsledder Nadezhda Sergeeva passed a positive doping test in Pyeongchang-2018.

    The sample was taken a few days ago. The fact of the presence of a prohibited drug in the Sergeeva test was confirmed by the president of the Russian Bobsled Federation of Russia Alexander Zubkov.
    1. Vard
      Vard 23 February 2018 19: 43
      +1
      It seems that this is already a system ... It is impossible for us to put a dope ... But for the special services it’s elementary ...
  45. demo
    demo 23 February 2018 13: 29
    +2
    Therefore, it can be assumed that the theater of “meldonian” absurdity, even if the use of this drug does not make any sense in the very same curling, will continue.

    This theater of the absurd is called differently - the Olympic movement.
    And we, in this theater, are extras.
    People said, should our athletes not go to this "cabal"?
    They talked.
    You and the flag banned. And a hymn. And symbolism.
    And you, woodpeckers, with a concussion of the remnants of the brain, you need to get in there.
    If you do not understand, then we will further explain to you.
    The fool understands that curling and meldonium are not compatible.
    But sypanuli and forward.
    Another humiliation.
    Moreover, how clearly they rehearsed us, that it becomes really scary.

    Toothless public policy.
    Toothless leadership of the country.
    Stupid and sloppy ministers.
    And the same mindless population.
    It is all about us.
  46. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 23 February 2018 13: 38
    0
    Not curlingists of Russia but neutral private traders and bronze is not Russia but theirs.