Storm of the “Nubl Corridor”: what will turn out to be Erdogan’s next utopian strategy for Ankara?

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In his riotous desire to gain control over the northern provinces of the Syrian Arab Republic, President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his closest political circle, undoubtedly, not only crossed all the lines of what was permitted, but also practically lost their common sense. First (about a month ago) it was a cunning "game of convoys" on the territory of the so-called "Idlib gadyushnik", aimed at strengthening the defensive capabilities of the terrorist group "Tahrir ash-Sham" and the opposition-terrorist FSA in front of the advancing government forces and Hezbollah units. The arrival of Turkish convoys, which inflicted a joint blow to “Al-Nusroy” on the front-line Hadera and its environs, controlled by CAA, was skillfully disguised by the creation of a de-escalation zone in northern Syria, which ultimately led to an advantage for Ankara: on the border of Idlib, several fortifications / observation structures that practically “frozen” the Syrian army’s attack on Idlib occupied by the pro-Turkish forces. This means that Erdogan secured full control over a huge part of the Syrian land adjacent to the silt Hatay. The first stage of the Turkish intervention can be considered complete.



As you remember, simultaneously with the establishment of observation points in Idlib, there was a tragic incident with the interception of our Su-25 near Idlib by means of MANPADS, which could be transferred to the terrorists "Tahrir ash-Sham" exclusively through the Syrian-Turkish border. This can be interpreted only as a warning about the consequences of the stripping of Idlib addressed to Damascus and Moscow. And, unfortunately, the next “knife in the back” remained unanswered, - the western sector of the front in Idlib “calmed down”.

The second stage of the Turkish intervention against Syria is the military operation “Olive Branch” launched exactly a month ago, aimed at seizing the Kurdish canton of Afrin in the northwestern part of Aleppo province, the ultimate goal of which was originally to be the unification into a single operational and strategic “fist” of the Azaz region (belongs to the pro-Turkish rebels from the SSA) and the “Idlib Gadyushnik”, where Afrin is currently the problem link for Ankara. As it was found out earlier, the continuation of the Olive Branch, announced by Erdogan, against the Manbij area became pure bluff, because these territories of Syrian Kurdistan, unlike Afrin, are under the powerful protection of the Air Force, the Marine Corps and the United States MTR, whose commands are already long ago developed a strategic defensive concept in case of an offensive of the Turkish army. Moreover, the Manbidj Kurdish detachments of the SDF (“Syrian Democratic Forces”) have long been crammed with the most modern American anti-tank missile weapons, which even without the direct support of the Western coalition forces can turn any attempts by the Turkish Army on Rozava into a precarious action that will turn for the first into a partisan "Meat grinder".

In the Afrin enclave, YPG / YPJ Self-Defense Units operate in no way being patronized by the Central Command of the Armed Forces led by Lieutenant-General Jeffrey Harrigan, and have counteracted the militants of the pro-Turkish FSA and the Armed Forces of Turkey alone, only due to the arrival of African volunteers from under the control of the CAA areas of the Rozhava, and also the countries of the FSU and beyond. The Pentagon completely abstracted from resolving the situation in the canton of Afrin more 18 January 2018, when the official representative of the Western coalition and public relations officer Colonel Ryan Dillon said that there were no tasks or interests of the US military in this enclave. Why did Washington take this stand?

The answer is extremely simple. Afrin is a pronounced exclave, separated from Manbij by a 23,5-kilometer “isthmus” north of El Bab, controlled by the “Syrian Free Army”. Consequently, military support for the Afrikan Kurds in a clash with the Turkish Ground Forces might require the use of military transport aviationoperating through the airspace over Azaz, where the pro-Turkish FSA "controls" the situation (after all, Damascus would not have agreed to provide the Americans with an air corridor over Aleppo). And this would mean a direct confrontation with Ankara, which the Americans are also not comfortable with the possible closure of the Basfor for the destroyers of the Ural Arley Burke of the 6th operational fleet The U.S. Navy, which now and then enters the Black Sea to monitor the operational efficiency of the Black Sea Fleet Naval Aviation and electronic reconnaissance of coastal radio-emitting objects in the Crimea using an irradiation warning station integrated into the AN / SLQ-32 (V) airborne defense system. The Pentagon did not intervene in the affairs of Afrin, and in connection with the apparent volume of material costs and attracted military equipment that must be maintained at the proper level in the event of a collision with the powerful and well-equipped Syrian Arab Army (we are not talking about those units that were defeated from the fire of the Ganship near Deir ez-Zor due to the lack of proper means of military air defense).

As a result, the future of the canton of Afrin was in the hands of Damascus and Moscow. Moreover, his support by the Syrian army would be an excellent chance to seize the initiative from Ankara in establishing control over the northern part of Syria, replacing Erdogan with his imperial manners. And, as it became known on the evening of February 20 from numerous Russian news resources with reference to the Syrian news agency SANA and sources in the SNA / NDF ("Syrian National Forces"), the command of the Syrian army did not miss this opportunity.

In the evening of the same day, an impressive column of pro-government Syrian militia presented by Shi fighters from Zahra, Nubl, Aleppo, Hama and other cities of Syria advanced from the northwestern neighborhood of Aleppo to the canton of Afrin on the “Mair-Shatal az-Ziyarakh” highway. According to unconfirmed information, the “backbone” of the group can be represented by company units of the elite 5 of the Syrian Army assault corps, represented by volunteers from the SAR and Iran, as well as Hezbollah units. Additional forces were tightened during the day and evening of February 21, completely refuting Erdogan’s inappropriate statements that the CAA forces retreated after an artillery attack on the Mayr-Shatal az-Ziyar highway (units entered despite the fire of the T-155 long-range self-propelled guns T-XNUMX "Firtina" receiving target designation from UAVs). In connection with this, YPG spokesman Reisan Khedu didn’t get into his pocket for the word and called the Turkish president a “bad road policeman.”

It should be noted that today only the infantry divisions of the SNS are known, arriving mainly in SUVs, pick-ups and minibuses: neither the artillery barreled, nor the armored vehicles in the convoys have yet been observed, which can lead to grim reflections on the prolongation of the operation to oust the pro-Turkish forces from canton for many months or even years. However, not everything is as bad as it might seem at first glance. If you look at the Afrin Canton topographic map and compare it with the syria.liveuamap.com daily updated tactical map, you can note that the maximum depth of advance of the FSA occupation forces to the canton was 9 km, in the area of ​​the settlement of Durakli (northern Afrin front).

The stop of the offensive in this operational direction is due to the fact that the hill seized by the rebels near the village of Esh-Shayuh allows the FSA formations to advance towards the low bed of the Afrin River only to the village of Durakli (when working with large-caliber sniper rifles and machine guns). In the area of ​​the southern villages of Ballursanik and Al-Yuiji (6,5 km from Shushuh), topographical factors no longer play into the hands of the pro-Turkish FSA units, and the Kurdish experience of guerrilla warfare begins to take over. Bottom line: the captured villages of Durakli, Divan et-Tahtani and Hamlurak - this is the entire tactical success of the FSA and NE of Turkey in the first month of Operation Olive Branch. The central parts of the canton, which are distinguished by their most complex, elevated terrain, remain inaccessible to the SSA and are reliably controlled by the YPG troops.

As for the newly arrived pro-government "Syrian National Forces", these soldiers (including anti-tank crews) are currently distributed in two of the most tank and infantry areas. One of these areas is the city of Jandaris, which is under threat of capture by the attacking FSA fighters from Hatay and the “Idlib Gadyushnik”, the other is the “Tell-Rifat-Raju” railway line, which the Forces of the “Syrian Free Army” and the MTR of Turkey have long been eyeing advancing on the Western Front (from the side of the D825 highway). W / D-branch "Tell-Rifat - Raju" allows you to quickly move to the north-western outskirts of the city Afrin. The Syrian militia that joined the YPG fighters on the mountain ranges will help to stop the enemy on these lines. The success of building layered anti-tank frontiers by the “Syrian National Forces” and YPG / YPJ should not even be doubted, because besides the tactical experience, they have at their disposal very modern anti-tank missile systems “Konkurs-M”, “Metis-M” and “TOW-2B” , possessing tandem cumulative warheads with armor penetration 750, 900 mm, respectively.

Despite the fact that Erdogan’s pseudo-strategy to fully occupy the provinces of Idlib and Aleppo, as well as the genocide of the Kurdish people was revealed by both the Russian and Syrian parties, and the SNA was introduced into Afrin under the cover of Syrian air defense systems (deployed near Maira and Nublya), the Turkish President and his entourage continue to make both false and absurd statements.

One of the authors of such statements was the Turkish Minister for EU Affairs and the head of the Turkish delegation at the negotiations with the European Union, Omer Celik. During his speech at the 37 meeting of the Consultative Committee Turkey-EU 20 in February, Чelik noted that the Turkish soldiers were making maximum efforts to protect the civilians of Afrin during the operation of the Olive Branch. And these words came from the mouth of a man whose state, in just one month of the military operation against Afrin, killed about 1000 people of the peaceful Kurdish population. As for the absurdity of the statements, here the first place belongs to the current President R. Erdogan, who demonstrates complete incompetence in assessing the tactical situation in the northern part of the Syrian Arab Republic. A few hours after the commencement of the transfer of the most combat-ready units of the Syrian militia to Afrin, Erdogan addressed the Turkish parliament with a statement about the “immediate siege of the center of Afrin city with the aim of blocking the transfer of reinforcement and providing military-technical support”.


The tactical picture in the area of ​​the Nubl Corridor is not in favor of pro-Turkish formations (see syria.liveuamap.com)


What kind of siege can we talk about when the advancing FSA militants did not come close to the western, northern and eastern outskirts of the city of Afrin even on 15 - 20 km? After all, after the inclusion in the standoff on the side of YPG / YPJ, the NDF trained in the IRGC will have extremely bad cases for the pro-Turkish forces. For Erinogan’s fantasizing of taking Afrin into a tactical cauldron (with the inability to receive outside assistance) to “green” rebels, fighters will need to make a large-scale 15-kilometer offensive “throw” from the southern outskirts of Zahra to the northern borders of Tell-Rifata (via the so-called “Nubl Corridor”) . At the same time, to avoid a direct clash with the Syrian Arab Army here under no circumstances will succeed (see the map above). And this threatens a major regional conflict, even despite the recent talks between Erdogan and Russian President Vladimir Putin, since the first one is protecting his own imperial interests in the region, not badly hiding behind NATO membership. In such a case, so far only as a safety net, the VKS of Russia once again transferred to Avb Khmeimim a link of super-maneuverable fighter jets of the transitional generation Su-35С, which were “in the lead” of the Tu-154М, as well as the modernized long-range radar detection and control aircraft A-50У with the modernized radar complex “ Bumblebee, ”Syrian sources at syria.liveuamap.com reported this to 21 on February evening. Against the background of unpredictable actions on the part of Hel Haavir, the Turkish Air Force and the US Air Force, these machines will not be superfluous here.

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  1. +9
    22 February 2018 06: 44
    Let them fight, the more Kurds get rid of Erdogan’s tanks, the more accommodating he will be. I personally do not feel sorry for either Turks or Kurds, the fewer of them, the better.
    1. +7
      22 February 2018 07: 40
      You are bloodthirsty, but I always feel sorry for people, although for the most part people are rare Mr., but 1n of 10, or maybe 100, people are of rare kindness and soul, so I feel sorry for them ...
      1. +8
        22 February 2018 08: 06
        For this, the Turks never felt sorry for the people, but the Kurds are simply corrupt bandits, for whom war is a way of life.
        1. +2
          22 February 2018 21: 18
          Quote: Lynx33
          and the Kurds are simply corrupt bandits for whom war is a way of life.


          Come on?! How many Kurds do you know to say that? What kind of game are you talking about?
          1. +3
            23 February 2018 11: 12
            In 1915, mainly Kurds carried out the genocide of Armenians under the leadership of the Turks, burned them and raped everyone, children, no one was spared, at least read Wikipedia.
            1. 0
              25 February 2018 14: 48
              Quote: Thrombus
              In 1915 year


              And in 1917-1919, communists, monarchists and anarchists of all stripes drenched each other, and no less than a people got into a sausage. And then other charms went ... What do you recall the affairs of 100 years ago? Do you think the Russians were better? Genocide on genocide .. We live today and before the Kurds in their situation shove some kind of sin 100 years ago under their nose, we need to help them with their own state, where there will be a discussion about the past. In the meantime, they survive, and for those sins they were punished 100 times by their hassle.
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      2. -1
        25 February 2018 13: 47
        In this adder, you need to let the Turks remove some reptiles (the Kurds have become the American map to be beaten) - they are all anti-government. Turkey announced no violation of the territorial integrity of Syria and the Turkish regions will receive maximum autonomy. Therefore, there is nothing to stop R. Erdogan from dealing with pro-American proteges, and along with the Americans. Things near Damascus and in the southwest are enough for the SAA, and now it's time to figure out what is being done. But there the Americans were preparing a "surprise" for Damascus - the defeat of these forces means another failure of another direction of the US strategy, because the UN yelled about a truce ...
    2. +1
      22 February 2018 21: 15
      Quote: Lynx33
      I personally do not feel sorry for either Turks or Kurds, the fewer of them, the better.


      You should contact a psychiatrist, you have unhealthy thoughts .. You can go into the church for one thing and sincerely ask that you and your family not find themselves in such a situation as the Kurds and other peoples of Syria and Iraq. And then, some kind of ... will write such comments.
    3. 0
      27 February 2018 17: 26
      Superficial anti-Turkish article.
      The main actions of both Turkey and the pro-government units have been agreed.
  2. +15
    22 February 2018 07: 42
    Turks are our eternal enemies, and alliance or cooperation with them should be temporary and not costly. Therefore, the gas pipeline and nuclear power plants (and even for our loan), I consider not just a mistake, but also a crime.
    1. 0
      22 February 2018 08: 17
      Well, which side to look at. Money is being diverted from the Russian economy to billions abroad, what does this mean? This means that they can be printed and carefully introduced into the economy, this is the same as putting a dropper for a patient who has lost a lot of blood, he will definitely feel better, and so that inflation does not rise from the printed money, people should consider that they earned this money by honest labor and the money itself supposedly came at the expense of paying for the export contract and then they quietly spill over the economy without damage. Inflation is a massive fear of people for the instability of money.
      1. +7
        22 February 2018 08: 28
        Quote: Lynx33
        Well, which side to look at. Money is being diverted from the Russian economy to billions abroad, what does this mean? This means that they can be printed and carefully introduced into the economy, this is the same as putting a dropper for a patient who has lost a lot of blood, he will definitely feel better, and so that inflation does not rise from the printed money, people should consider that they earned this money by honest labor and the money itself supposedly came at the expense of paying for the export contract and then they quietly spill over the economy without damage. Inflation is a massive fear of people for the instability of money.

        Using your analogy, if a substitute is injected into a person instead of lost blood and said that it is blood, the placebo effect may work for some time, but then death will come that the patient will not imagine there ...
        1. +16
          22 February 2018 09: 54
          Once GDP said. what . if you invest in your economy. then it will “accelerate” inflation. And I think . what if for petrodollars to buy modern plants and put them in Russia. then there will be no inflation and modern goods will be their own and there will be no need to buy consumer goods in Europe for dollars. Buy small cheese factories and in 2-3 years our peasants will make excellent cheese. But this . when there is a desire. and not the idea that "the market will adjust itself"
          1. +9
            22 February 2018 11: 45
            In the meantime, everything is exactly the opposite. Rosneft buys refineries in Germany, spends 600 million on their modernization. Euro and creates 5000 jobs there. They also buy oil refining in India, and they are tearfully asking for money from the state to repair their plants in Russia.
          2. +2
            22 February 2018 17: 10
            Quote: Cossack 471
            Buy small cheese factories and in 2-3 years our peasants will make excellent cheese.

            That's just bad luck - on the shelves domestic cheese produced in our oil mills, with the same names - parmesan, camembert ... And to taste - full G !!!
            How so? Cheese production has increased, but milk production has not! Mystery however request
            1. +2
              22 February 2018 22: 50
              Quote: AllXVahhaB
              How so? Cheese production has increased, but milk production has not! Mystery however

              No secret. Palm oil imports have just increased. negative
          3. +1
            22 February 2018 21: 38
            Quote: Cossack 471
            it will not be necessary to buy consumer goods in Europe for dollars.


            Shirpotroyob in China, Russia buys all the rubbish that could be done in Russia, from toothbrushes to building materials. From Europe came technologies, high-precision and high-quality machines, without which a high-quality, competitive industry could not be created. For a long time, China will not be able to replace either Germany, Japan or the United States with their mechanical engineering. In the early 2000s, Russia was able to compete with Western countries today, judging by the dynamics of the development of industry and engineering in those years. Today, Russia is very far behind and the gap is widening.
          4. +2
            23 February 2018 14: 02
            Quote: Cossack 471
            Once GDP said. what . if you invest in your economy. then it will “accelerate” inflation. And I think . what if for petrodollars to buy modern plants and put them in Russia.

            Have you personally tried to create any small factory in Russia at least? Tormented. The problem is not in GDP. The problem is the mass unwillingness of the people to work in production, even for decent money. All my friends come across this daily. Laziness, incompetence, trash, unprofessionalism. And repeated attempts to put and launch a plant somewhere nearby, for example, in China, are successful. There are plenty of skilled workers who are able and willing to work there. And bribes to local officials are several times less. And it's getting faster.
            That's when the people will begin to massively resent about the January non-working days or about today's holiday - February 23 (by the way, in the USSR, a former working day, but at the same time a real holiday), and go to work in neighboring territories, and not sit exactly on the priest, scolding Medvedev, this will mean that the people have recovered, and factories can be set up in Russia.
            PS I published my comment, re-read it, and then read the title of the article, and it became funny to myself. This is how demagogues can lead people away from the main topic. Soon here on the branch we will begin to discuss 50 shades of blue in Malvina’s hair or something else unpredictable ... laughing
            1. +1
              24 February 2018 04: 34
              Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
              Soon, here on the branch we will begin to discuss 50 shades of blue in Malvina’s hair
              - Yes, our brains are not dirty for us. If only for the immediate, i.e. they did not think and did not talk about what was going on with us. And so we live "without feeling the country" ...
      2. 0
        22 February 2018 21: 28
        Quote: Lynx33
        This means that they can be printed and carefully introduced into the economy, this is the same as putting a dropper for a patient who has lost a lot of blood, he will definitely feel better, and so that inflation does not rise from the printed money, people should consider that they earned this money by honest labor and the money itself supposedly came at the expense of paying for the export contract and then they quietly spill over the economy without prejudice


        This is who tells such a game ??? Money can be printed when there is an increase in industry and services in this amount. If the United States constantly printed $ at random, then $ would not be the most stable currency for such a long time. If Russia prints a bunch of rubles for itself, then they will immediately devalue, because there is no growth in industry and services.
        1. -1
          25 February 2018 18: 20
          Brief reference. You heard about the financial pyramids, so the US dollar is a typical financial pyramid, to support from the collapse of which, with the necessary expansion of users, wars and coups are organized. (including WWI and WWII). The EU also arranged its f. pyramid with euro. Now they are competitors and the dollar, with the release of England, has been winning for a while ... Russia has been built since 1991 as a colony tied to the dollar, which is still prescribed in the laws of the Russian Federation .. Therefore, we do not get up off the knees, because we are on the basis of laws colony with comprador power
    2. +7
      22 February 2018 08: 33
      Quote: zyzx
      Turks are our eternal enemies, and alliance or cooperation with them should be temporary and not costly. Therefore, the gas pipeline and nuclear power plants (and even for our loan), I consider not just a mistake, but also a crime.

      Eternal, not eternal ... But during the Napoleonic wars we were our allies, we did not coined and promoted the term "sick man of Europe", we then tried to preserve the Ottoman Empire ... Yes, and at the beginning of the XNUMXth century we saved Turkey from the Entente - it’s not just that in Constantinople on the right hand from Ataturk you yourself know who ...
      So there are no "eternal enemies", just as there are no "eternal allies" - there are eternal interests! From this we must proceed ...
      1. +9
        22 February 2018 11: 51
        Quote: AllXVahhaB
        And at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, it was we who saved Turkey from the Entente - it’s not just that in Constantinople on the right hand from Ataturk you yourself know who ...


        In the center of Istanbul, on Taksim Square, stands the 12-meter Republic monument, erected in 1928 according to the project of the Italian architect Pietro Canonika, symbolizing the liberating army and the establishment of the republic. The monument includes sculptures by Marshals Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, Mustafa Ismet Inönyu, Fevzi Chakmak and figures of ordinary Turks. Ataturk’s figure is located, at first glance, unexpected characters - Kliment Voroshilov, at the time of the construction of the monument - the people's commissar for military affairs of the USSR, and Semyon Aralov, in 1922 the former plenipotentiary (ambassador) of the RSFSR in Turkey. The immortalization of Soviet political figures in the main memorial complex of Turkey was carried out at the direction of Ataturk himself and symbolizes the help of Soviet Russia in the formation of the Turkish Republic.
        1. +1
          22 February 2018 17: 13
          Quote: reservist
          and Semyon Aralov

          Hmm ... For some reason I always thought that it was Frunze ... Live a century - learn a century ...
          1. 0
            26 February 2018 12: 05
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            Live and learn...

            totally agree with you ...

            from Wikipedia:
            Aralova, whose sculpture is behind Voroshilov, is often mistakenly called Frunze
      2. +1
        22 February 2018 17: 04
        Quote: AllXVahhaB
        Yes, and at the beginning of the XX century it was we who saved Turkey from the Entente

        Saved yourself to the detriment. If not saved, then the USSR would have been 150 thousand. sq. km more.
        And after the rescue, Turkey again became your opponent.
        1. +4
          22 February 2018 19: 40
          Quote: Brut
          Saved yourself to the detriment. If not saved, then the USSR would have been 150 thousand. sq. km more.

          As I understand you - on someone else's hump, but to paradise fellow Of course, it would be nice if now the independent Armenia had Lake Van and Mount Ararat and access to the Black Sea ... but for us, what’s the reason for this? IMHO - if you had all this now, you would not have been such allies of Russia ... It’s enough that we saved you from the genocide. There is no need to thank ... But at the expense of Turkey in the 20s, this is a difficult question, they had strong positions in Azerbaijan, so we can say there was a change ...
          Quote: Brut
          And after the rescue, Turkey again became your opponent.

          Not immediately. When Ataturk did not, but during World War II did not jerk ...
          And then ... Ambition and nostalgia for the lost empire ... We know this ...
          For the Turks, Syria is the same as Ukraine for us ...
          1. 0
            23 February 2018 11: 42
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            Of course, it would be nice if now the independent Armenia had Lake Van and Mount Ararat and access to the Black Sea ... but for us, what’s the reason for this? IMHO - if you hadn’t had all this now such allies of Russia ...

            And I honestly don’t understand you. In your opinion, is it better if all this has an adversary than a "bad" ally? If we had access to the Black Sea, Georgia would not even have thought of joining NATO, and Azerbaijan would not have expelled the Russian military from Gabala, etc.
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            It’s enough that we saved you from genocide.

            How did you save if there was genocide? How could you save from what has already happened?
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            Quote: Brut
            And after the rescue, Turkey again became your opponent.
            Not immediately.

            This reminded me of the words of one friend - "The Turks shot down only the plane itself."
            It turns out that if you became opponents "far from immediately" is that good already?
            Honestly I do not understand, kindly explain.
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            When Ataturk did not, but during World War II did not jerk ...

            And during the Great Patriotic War they would have jerked if our grandfathers (both my grandfathers) had not won the Battle of Stalingrad.
    3. +4
      22 February 2018 17: 39
      Quote: zyzx
      Turks are our eternal enemies, and alliance or cooperation with them should be temporary and not costly. Therefore, the gas pipeline and nuclear power plants (and even for our loan), I consider not just a mistake, but also a crime.

      And the Bulgarians, sort of like, brothers. Only these brothers refused to build a gas hub that would give them huge profits. Go understand who is our friend and who is the enemy or so.
      1. +1
        22 February 2018 19: 41
        Quote: flicker
        And the Bulgarians, sort of like, brothers. Only these brothers refused to build a gas hub that would give them huge profits. Go understand who is our friend and who is the enemy or so.

        And in both World Wars, they fought against us ...
      2. 0
        22 February 2018 21: 46
        Quote: flicker
        Only these brothers refused to build a gas hub that would give them huge profits. Go understand who is our friend and who is the enemy or so.

        I would understand your chagrin if you were from Putin’s entourage, some Miller, or Sechin .. But as I understand it, you don’t have a close relationship with this and most likely belong to the majority. Then the question is, why did you get the idea that you will benefit from this? Where is $ 2 trillion from resource sales 2006-2016 ?! So who are the enemies of the Bulgarians and others? For me, the people and power in Russia are two different differences.
        1. +1
          26 February 2018 12: 01
          Quote: karabas-barabas
          Then the question is, why did you get the idea that you will benefit from this?

          Regarding the benefit, the remark seems to be correct ... but if some Miller’s office does not have the strength to pay taxes to the budget, then the majority, to which we all relate, will have to pay (more than now) ...
  3. +4
    22 February 2018 07: 44
    Quote: Lynx33
    I personally do not feel sorry for either Turks or Kurds, the fewer of them, the better.

    How lovely! The position of a real urapatriot ™: Syrians, like, are stopping us from confronting the Yankees and NATO in Syria, and so let everyone who wants to cut them out is not sorry. But, if that, we are for the territorial integrity of the SAR))
    P.S. And the article is quite suitable. The author, unlike the bulk of local publicists and commentators, is friends with geography and owns the current situation in Syria. In any case, the armies of American instructors and security men west of the Euphrates are not imagined by him, like most here.
    1. +3
      22 February 2018 08: 08
      And who says that the article is bad. It's a pity there are no pictures with burnt Turkish tanks.
      1. +1
        22 February 2018 10: 56
        I'd rather listen to or read about Satanovsky on this subject.
  4. +2
    22 February 2018 08: 14
    EVERYTHING IS CORRECT - THE MINISTER FOR INTEGRATION WITH THE EU (this is his topic) STATED ... AND LOBBIES THE INTERESTS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION (TOUR P) ON THE ENTRY OF THE GAS CORRIDOR TO THE EU (BULGARIA OR GREECE ???)
    we pay how much the Turks ask for, and they themselves do not know how much they will tear off from them for entering Russian gas into the south of the EU. (Or maybe in the EU they do not know how much they will tear off from them for entering Russian gas into the EU ???)
  5. +3
    22 February 2018 10: 19
    There is a good proverb: "There were no 1000 Turks-victims"
  6. +3
    22 February 2018 10: 49
    Quote: Lynx33
    For this, the Turks never felt sorry for the people, but the Kurds are simply corrupt bandits, for whom war is a way of life.

    At one time, the Union was friends with the Kurds. Gorbach betrayed them and now they don’t believe us the same. Now the Americans have imposed on them as friends and set the same thing up. request
  7. +2
    22 February 2018 14: 28
    I can’t understand one thing, is the author trying to pass off wishful thinking? I wonder what kind of "analytical" article will be written when the Turks take Afrin, and this will happen for anyone, there is not the slightest doubt.
    1. +1
      22 February 2018 20: 14
      Take in your fantasies laughing
      1. +1
        7 March 2018 15: 16
        I’ll remind you of fantasy, and you can follow the news yourself. Very soon
      2. +1
        20 March 2018 13: 02
        See, and you spoke in your fantasies. Now I hope it is clear which of us is a dreamer. I can tell you the script too ... if that
  8. 0
    22 February 2018 19: 39
    . And these words came from the mouth of a man whose state killed about 1000 people of the Kurdish population in one month of military operation against Afrin
    Proof of the studio pzhl! And if it is not, then you are a liar and a propagandist just!
    1. +1
      22 February 2018 20: 19
      Go to "Kurdistan Nourani", other Kurdish groups .. there are both photo and video evidence .. Come online map, look at the sector of air strikes of the Turkish Air Force, which falls on residential districts Afrin, Jandaris, Raju and numerous. Analyze, and enough to carry nonsense ..
      1. 0
        22 February 2018 20: 25
        I saw a lot, but for some reason everyone turned out to be fake, so you are nonsense, Kurdistan Nurani is an interested party and propaganda does
      2. +1
        7 March 2018 15: 18
        it’s clear now where it’s carrying you like that, I found news where to read. All the photos are fakes, yesterday, for example. they wanted to give out photos from the earthquake in Diyarbakir as the consequences of the bombing. You have to be more competent, we live in the 21st century
  9. +1
    22 February 2018 20: 30
    Also civilly dressed
  10. +2
    22 February 2018 22: 39
    Knowing the "veracity" of the state. Damantseva, I just sat down and checked his "numbers", purely because of sports interest.
    This is already some kind of pathology, state. Damantsev, more than once convicted of banal lies (ala his master Sema Baghdasarov). Unprofessional it. You are my friend just a recidivist. Congratulations to Eugene, again a lie wink Yes, again they are pleased with the sweet immediacy, the habit of such a Damantsev (Samsonov and co.) Not to indicate their sources, which, most likely, was the fantasy of this author.
    Here is the pearl of Damantsev’s: “whose state killed about 1000 people of the Kurdish population in one month of the military operation against Afrin.” Would you be Pinocchio, your nose growing up with constant lies, would provide the woodworking and pulp industry of the Russian Federation for a long time.
    You don’t need to read the rest already ... Yes, for your information Damantsev, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Ildrym and Turkish security chief Hakan Fidan are Kurds by nationality, which once again proves that they are fighting not with the people, but with a poor caricature of North Korean regime, with the commies-Maoists ... You would Damans in North Korea to lock.
    And this is the France Press agency, which you will not suspect of sympathy for Turkey.
    According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, 112 civilians have been killed since the operation began on January 20 - a claim which Ankara denies, insisting the Turkish army is taking the "utmost care" to avoid civilian casualties.
    Source: https://www.afp.com/en/news/826/pro-kurdish-party
    -says-turkey-lying-about-no-civilian-deaths-afrin
    -doc-10u7501
    Summary of events in Syria and the Middle East on February 20, 2018. According to the opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), at least 550 people, including combatants, have been killed in the Afrin region since the start of Operation Olive Branch. Of these: 39 soldiers of the Turkish army, 205 TFSA fighters, 219 YPG fighters and 112 civilians. This is a month of intense fighting (!) By the way, the Tepki will refute them and say that there were not so many losses (i.e. 112 people) among civilians (!)
    Source: http://free-news.su/voennye-konflikty/26932-svodk
    a-siriya-21fevralya18
    Synopsis on February 03, 2017. In Afrin, it was stated that 150 people became victims of Turkish air strikes and shelling in Syria. Moreover, this is according to the Kurdish YPG / YPJ (!).
    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/4927772
    For comparison ... It’s only in one day that the Asadovites, with the help of someone else, destroyed in Aleksandr Gut in the style of Aleppo.
    Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/20/childr
    en-among-dead-71-killed-assad-regime-bombardment-
    eastern / Children among the dead as 100 killed in Assad regime bombardment of Eastern Ghouta
    At least 100 people (including children) were destroyed by Asad forces in eastern Ghouta. And this 250 civilians were killed. Among them, more than 50 children. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based monitoring group, said at least 250 people had been killed in air strikes and artillery fire since then. More than 50 children are among the dead, they say.
    Source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-4312718
    9
    Some kind Assad with his citizens, with children. Right Santa Claus. Therefore, they love him there so much? Interestingly, after this genocide?
    1. +1
      23 February 2018 01: 04
      Firstly, the data in the one and a half hundred dead are clearly seriously underestimated, given the intensity of the disorderly AIs of the Turkish Air Force. Secondly, my dear, this is a war .. and in Gute and Afrin, unfortunately, deaths cannot be avoided. Thirdly, the Russian Aerospace Forces and the CAA etch pro-Turkish and pro-Arabian "green" militants from their land, and Tayip has opened his bread slicing machine to Syrian Afrin. Fourth, Azerbaijan’s position is understandable ..
      1. +2
        23 February 2018 01: 49
        Dear Fulcrum29,

        1. I brought you the data provided by the Kurdish YPG (150 people), what is the reason for them to understate them ?;
        2. War war is strife. Not everyone in a row, including peaceful ones, needs to be bombed. He is clearly fond of carpet or the like. I understand Assad's passionate desire to reduce at least 85% of non-disloyal non-Levites disadvantageous for him, but in the foreseeable future, I think this is physically impossible. Maybe I'm wrong and he will succeed. Yes, and where does Russia? In this sense, Turkey’s actions are just indicative, which, without hesitation, could really level both Afrin and Ginderes with the earth, along with YPG and peace fighters, but they don’t do this, as can be seen from the numbers given by France Press and YPG sources
        3. My interest is not to support any of the parties, but to point out logical inconsistencies, and even frank lies of the state. Damantseva, not supported by any more plausible evidence or source. However, as always with him;
        4. God forbid. I do not pretend to represent the position of Azerbaijan, I do not have such claims and powers. I think you also do not represent the position of Ukraine, despite the presence of the Ukrainian flag). I am a humble person, absolutely far from all this. You can say no one winked and I don’t even imagine the position of Azerbaijanis in the forum. I express my personal opinion and it is explained by a simple craving for justice.
        Sorry for the bulk. Like everyone I have weaknesses, Damantsev is prone to lies and Turkophobic statements already on the verge of stupidity. I am inclined to lengths and idioms)
        1. +1
          23 February 2018 12: 19
          If you have burned from this article, wash under a fire hydrant! The article clearly describes all the ambitions of the Turks in the north of Syria, because the whole territory up to the south of Aleppo was previously under their control. Turkey is pursuing an extremely aggressive policy: recently the Greek “patrolman” was rammed by the ship of the Turkish Navy! In Idlib, Ankara is friends with Tahrir ash-Sham (“en-Nusroy”). The Turkish Armed Forces yesterday attacked NDF forces and pro-government militias marching to Afrin’s defense line! Does the "mischief" of your beloved Tayip go beyond what is permitted? With such as you are no longer going to discuss ..
          1. +1
            23 February 2018 14: 29
            About the mischief of Mr. Erdogan. İnter alia ... How many km. does Russia have borders with Syria? What about Iran? What are they doing in Syria? Say invited. Okay, people controlled only 12-15% of their territory and supported by exactly the same percentage. population, we will consider invited.
            I will not say anything about such legitimacy. Conditionally consider it legitimate. Presented to the UN and so on. We return to Turkey:
            I remind you that Turkey was subjected to repeated shelling by Syria from its territory, including a school, a hospital, residential buildings, and civilian casualties, including children and women. For example, source: http://www.kp.ru/online/news/2279842/
            Also from there, support was provided for PKK units carrying out numerous territorial acts in Turkey and in the regions of this country bordering on Syria.
            For example: Kurdish terrorists blew up 44 people in the Besiktas area. Source: http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/117656/
            Is this not enough?
            Under the same article of the UN Charter, an invasion of the territory of a state is also possible if that state does not have the ability or desire to prevent or stop the attack on the affected state by terrorists.
            Source: http://evolutio.info/content/view/1662/232/
            Does the Syrian government control vast areas in the territories adjacent to Turkey?
            An official statement by President Vladimir Putin dated September 11, 2002, states that if Georgia "does not prevent gang raids and attacks by terrorist groups on neighboring regions of Russia," Moscow reserves the right to act in accordance with Article 51 of the UN Charter, which assigns each a member state of the UN inalienable right to individual and collective self-defense ...
  11. +1
    23 February 2018 14: 23
    Quote: Fulcrum29
    If you have burned from this article, wash under a fire hydrant! The article clearly describes all the ambitions of the Turks in the north of Syria, because the whole territory up to the south of Aleppo was previously under their control. Turkey is pursuing an extremely aggressive policy: recently the Greek “patrolman” was rammed by the ship of the Turkish Navy! In Idlib, Ankara is friends with Tahrir ash-Sham (“en-Nusroy”). The Turkish Armed Forces yesterday attacked NDF forces and pro-government militias marching to Afrin’s defense line! Does the "mischief" of your beloved Tayip go beyond what is permitted? With such as you are no longer going to discuss ..

    You are spraying with saliva. Speak nonsense, then you get up in a pose and proudly retire, saying that I will not discuss with you anymore. You, by chance, are not a clone of Damantsev, the style is the same))) And now the points:
    1. "all the ambitions of the Turks are clearly described" What do you call clearly? That unsubstantiated nonsense, complete crap sucked by Damantsev from his own or someone else's finger?
    Do you sing praises to this mediocre writing?
    2. “In Idlib, Ankara is friends with Tahrir al-Sham”??? Again we return to the same. Have you seen how they are friends? Or did you see Damantsev? Can I rely on your evidence and why? Then you too must rely on mine. For example, if I say that Damantsev and Bagdasarov in the evenings smear their lips with lipstick and put on wigs, a couple go out to serve truckers on the Leningrad highway. Will it look true? Sorry for my French, I'm not hinting at anything, I just gave a simple example for clarity ...
    3. By the way, I cited earlier evidence from the press that Tahrir ash Sham, to put it mildly, is not friends with Ankara, but rather the opposite and is at war with groups patronized by Turkey. My sources are below. Where are yours and your dearest friend Damantsev, just like you, who is not friendly with either logic or sources.
    Sources: https://lenta.ru/news/2018/02/06/barmalei/
    Source: Federal News Agency. https://riafan.ru/881323-idlib-v-rukakh-takhrir-a
    sh-sham-pochemu-boeviki-akhrar-ash-sham-sdali-ter
    roristam city
    4. Once again I say that it is more likely that you got excited in the apologetics of the mediocre Damantsev and you need a hydrant. For me, this is ersatz i.e. a small challenge is a parody of intellectual discourse, another reason to kick a negligent and biased hack. Warm-up. nothing else...
  12. 0
    26 February 2018 16: 34
    well, understandably the Armenians are for the Kurds; the Azerbaijanis are for the Turks; but the Jew adds fuel to the fire in the form of green of course and rubs his hands; however, both Assad and Putin and Ayatollah see the ring
  13. mvg
    0
    3 March 2018 01: 57
    He also understands tactics what What a versatile comrade ..
  14. +1
    9 March 2018 22: 24
    now, only two weeks have passed, and the Kurdish enclave is almost cleaned up and Afrin will soon fall. analytics was useless

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