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In search of programs of presidential candidates

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The election campaign has entered the phase of campaigning candidates. People from the list, who will be in the final bulletin, should present the voter not just their face, but also voice the main things contained in their programs. Campaigning de jure has been going on for several days, and you catch yourself thinking that you have no idea about specific programs of specific candidates.


In search of programs of presidential candidates


The situation is reminiscent of a well-known university principle, when a knowledgeable elder comrade explains to a first-year student that first you work on a grade book, then a grade record works for you. Some candidates apparently decided that it was absolutely useless for the electorate to present any points of some kind of program, but it would be better to simply “lighten” with its media coverage and, as it is now fashionable to say, the background, so that voters come to the polls and tick "Where necessary".

In some cases, programs (and often party programs, rather than a specific action plan of a person who claims to be the presidency) are posted on candidate sites, but the attendance of these sites is such that it can be a fact: no more than 0,1% of the total number of candidates read the list of candidate initiatives. voters. That is, the bet is still on the “media” and on what is already in the “record book” ... And what it has in the individual candidates is a separate question ...

What do voters propose the first of the registered candidates, Vladimir Zhirinovsky? If you read the recent election slogans of Vladimir Volfovich, then you would think that the candidate was hanging somewhere between 1996 and 2008 for years. Basically - everything is the same. The slogans are beautiful, bright, juicy, but, how could I express it more precisely, not quite about what would really be worthy of discussion.

Some examples:
In schools, it is necessary to stop putting "two" students and not exclude them for academic failure, so as not to injure the psyche?

This is as a commentary on the shootings in schools in the USA and Russia.

Apparently, Vladimir Volfovich distanced himself from the realities of modern education, in which the liberal principle operates: “Teacher, if you bet two, you bet it to yourself”. The liberal principle is that everything is with us, you know, Newtons and Lobachevskys, Vasnetsovs and Sholokhovs, and why teachers bury their remarkable talents in the ground by their desire to slap "unsuccessful" for the lesson ... In general, the fact that some scumbags, having sniffed up Pi-Pi-Pi (“zapikano” for Roskomnadzor is behind the media), grab traumates, hatchets and axes and go to kill their peers, blame, judging by the presented logic of the candidate, again the teachers ...

Another slogan:
Debates between candidates translate from live broadcast to broadcast to recording.


No comment ... And still twist three times a day?

Another slogan:
Need to unload historical the center of the capital!


And who bothers something? A person sets a record in the number of registrations as a candidate, being in parliament for more than a quarter of a century, and it will not unload him in any way. Maybe first try to remove the extra flashers and special signals for "especially those in a hurry"? ..

Well, about the program. Here is its quintessence:
I will restore order and ensure that every family has income sufficient for living, not survival. My main goal is the welfare of all citizens, economic growth and population growth. A guarantee of this - work, own apartment, free health care.


A couple of excerpts:
Restore the greatness of Russia. Return under the Russian flags all lost territory. Peacefully, without wars - through referendums!

A referendum in Alaska will also be? ..

Write off pensioners and socially needy citizens with rent arrears for electricity and gas.


And work in the Duma does not allow this either? Who prevented all this from seeking the post of one of the most important bodies of state power - the legislative? Or in the country only the president is responsible for the income of citizens, free health care and the provision of retirees?

What is another candidate with the same name? Also an interesting situation. Also, the record book works. Even on the air of the federal media about the program of the candidate Vladimir Putin to speak somehow not accepted. On the air - traditionally: either the candidate himself as president, or trustees who take complaints from ordinary Russians and promise that after reviewing the appeals, they will repair the roof of the house, will rake the dump outside the city and plant chestnuts on the central avenue. Maybe it is not customary to talk about the program, based on the fact that not everything worked out with the previous program, especially in the economic sphere - for example, with millions (like 25) of new high-tech jobs. Or maybe this is secret information so that the fifth column does not guess ...

Works candidate's site for the presidency of Vladimir Putin, but even on the website the program of action in the event of election is not at all detected. About how confidants celebrated Shrovetide, there is; that the Japanese journalists met with the volunteers of the candidate’s headquarters is also there; there is also the fact that the CEC of the Russian Federation has no complaints about the collected signatures. And there is no program. This is less than a month before the vote.

The candidate of the top three presidential rankings is Pavel Grudinin. Anyone who is interested in the course of the election campaign, now first of all should remember two main dogmas: Grudinin did not provide a certificate of closing Swiss accounts and Grudinin was deceiving with packs of residents of the Lenin state farm. Apparently, the candidate’s campaign is built on these “dogmas”, as if something did not work out ... And the fact that, in this case, the CEC registered Grudinina in the presence of “unclosed accounts” and either real or fake lawsuits of deceived state farmers is not entirely clear.

And what about the program?

On the Online she is. That just looks like a tracing paper from all that in recent years represents the Communist Party. Although why tracing paper? These are the very 20 steps that the Communist Party has been going on for years, but it turns out that with intensive walking it remains in place - a warm place in the State Duma. It looks like Vladimir Volfovich, beautiful, juicy, capacious, but also with a touch of populism be healthy.

For example, the item 2. Restoration of Russia's economic sovereignty. Those trillions of rubles that are stored in banks and US debt, we will make investments in production, science and education.

But who is against? In science - please, in education - too.

but there is one question: does the United States know about it? .. And if they find out, then another question: after how many milliseconds will the Russian funds be frozen?

Item 4:
New industrialization, modernization of the economy and its conclusion on the innovation rails.


And it sounds great. But what about the oligarchs, who stubbornly don’t want to withdraw funds from offshore companies, or to get up on innovative rails if there are opportunities to circumvent legislation by negotiating with those who “need to”.

Item 8:
Taxes are in the interests of justice and development.

In general, for all the good against all the bad. Like all the other candidates.

Sobchak isolated: Against all, and returns the Crimea to Ukraine.

Yavlinsky: Not against everyone, but will make life brighter and more beautiful, “reviving the economy.” I wonder if it is not according to the program of “500 days”, which is quickly replaced by “Gaidar jerk”?

Titov will return all the businessmen who have been caught stealing, although they do not promise to return the money ...

Baburin ... And what about Baburin? Everything is also great, beautiful and wonderful - only within the statistical error.

Sorry for terry "babayagizm" in relation to candidates, but to go with programs, slogans or without programs at all instead of providing voters with a real plan of action if elected president - clearly will not add the percentage of those who get up "from the oven" and go to the polls. Or are the candidates from the list not interested?
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 22 February 2018 06: 32
    +19
    Well, what did you want? Yes, there are no sensible programs. However, this concerns the first contender for the continuation of the reign.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 22 February 2018 07: 15
      +42
      . And what about the program? (Grudinina)
      On the site it is. It just looks like tracing paper from everything that the Communist Party has presented in recent years.
      What's the problem? Bad program? Call it better!
      . Even on the air of the federal media, it’s somehow not accepted to talk about the program of the candidate Vladimir Putin.

      Why does Putin need a program? So at least they will criticize. In Russia, the president is elected not by program, but by succession. From the desire of the one who is standing at the helm this hour. So it was with the election of Yeltsin, then Putin, then Medvedev, and so on ...
      1. Oden280
        Oden280 22 February 2018 10: 12
        +21
        In the early 80s, the same MEMBER of the party imposed the programs "100 days", "500 days", the consequences of such utopian programs are still unmasked.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 22 February 2018 11: 16
          +6
          Quote: Oden280
          In the early 80s, the same MEMBER of the party imposed the programs "100 days", "500 days", the consequences of such utopian programs are still unmasked.

          So these programs were not adopted, so do not slander Yavlinsky for nothing.
          1. yehat
            yehat 22 February 2018 11: 53
            +3
            allocating 10% of the budget is not a program, but demagogy.
          2. Oden280
            Oden280 22 February 2018 16: 16
            +4
            And what does Yablinsky have to do with it, I talked about the bald man. And they were accepted, and even tried to fulfill.
        2. plotnikov561956
          plotnikov561956 23 February 2018 10: 26
          +19
          better Grudinin’s program with a team .. than Putin’s slogans and theses with the “TEAM” ... WE KNOW THEM ALREADY 18 YEARS OLD
          1. tamara
            tamara 23 February 2018 11: 43
            +13
            I support. Grudinin is a business executive, not a "talker" and "cat-bayun"
      2. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 22 February 2018 11: 24
        +26
        V. Putin has long been a double in all Russian mass media and the CEC should exclude the possibility of substituting another person for the candidate, and the question is whether V. Putin himself is alive. P. Grudinin state organizations for state money blacken, which is a violation of the election law.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 11: 35
          +27
          Vladimir 5 Today, 11:24 ↑
          Putin has long been a double in all Russian media
          Oh how ?! belay But the king is not real ... laughing
          P. Grudinin state organizations for state money blacken
          Yeah, it was precisely these "state organizations" that opened up "fake" accounts all over the world to them, they maliciously bought property abroad and secretly executed it either for him or for his children, whom the very mysterious "state organizations" made super-businessmen and threw them in addition a residence permit in another country.

          Tell me, are they not following you? Is no one hiding in the corner? And you know, these "state organizations", they are ... bully
          1. Sasha_Sar
            Sasha_Sar 26 February 2018 14: 53
            +1
            God forgive me, who about what and you about the bath. A person runs a legal business, why should he not have "accounts over the hill"? How much can this nonsense be repeated? Grudinin's children have Latvian citizenship, so what? And the children of the "guarantor" what they do, oh yes it's state secrets. But then the son of Yakunin has British citizenship. And why did Gryzlov fly off the chairman of the State Duma? And if you "dig" accounts and real estate of wives and children of the inner circle of the "guarantor"? With which he drinks the "bitter", sports and hunting engaged?
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 22 February 2018 15: 14
          +10
          Quote: Vladimir 5
          V. Putin has long been a double in all Russian mass media and the CEC should exclude the possibility of substituting another person for the candidate, and the question is whether V. Putin himself is alive.

          fool fool fool You would urgently see a doctor
          1. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 22 February 2018 21: 21
            +10
            Take a look at the analysis of changes in the appearance and manners of V.V. Putin for the period from 1999 to 2018. Since 2008, a sharp change in everything, even the structure of the skull is different. In Yu-Tyube there are such analytical works, get acquainted at least with them, do not be lazy, so as not to look like a deceived simpleton. Regarding riches, so V. Zhirinovsky is richer than P. Grudinin, see also ...
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 22 February 2018 21: 33
              +9
              Quote: Vladimir 5
              Take a look at the analysis of changes in the appearance and manners of V.V. Putin for the period from 1999 to 2018. Since 2008, a sharp change in everything, even the structure of the skull is different.

              Dear, I certainly got excited with a smiley face. I apologize for that, but you see you can say the same about me, but not from 2008. but from 2012. yes You see the thing, we are all subject to time and our body also wears out. As children turn into adolescents and adults over time, so we turn into middle age over time, old and old, and the manner and communication style change in the same way , but a lot is changing, those who have not seen me for a long time. Everyone recognizes that I have changed a lot and not an exception, neither you nor Putin and Grudinin.
              Quote: Vladimir 5
              In Yu-Tyube there are such analytical works, at least get acquainted with them,

              You can also see these conspiracy theorists by ren TV. The difference is not big. hi
              1. Vladimir 5
                Vladimir 5 23 February 2018 18: 55
                -1
                Toward the curtain, compare the photo of the real V. Putin with the image in the collage at the beginning of the article
            2. Oden280
              Oden280 23 February 2018 11: 47
              +4
              You really have a sense of self-preservation atrophied if you consider materials from YouTube for any evidence, if you would have turned to British scientists. fool
              1. Vladimir 5
                Vladimir 5 23 February 2018 20: 07
                -1
                If you do not believe what you see with your own eyes, then you sincerely believe in your visions and no one will prove anything to you. (Akin to religious franatism). The British tell the truth, of course, in their own interests, others use this truth to their advantage, mainly factories, so that the truth is true, the British are more truthful in this .....
          2. You Vlad
            You Vlad 23 February 2018 19: 39
            +5
            Quote: vovanpain
            You would urgently see a doctor

            Do you think naivety is being treated? For me, it’s so pumped up with blood hiAlready 15+ set, well, I can’t laughing From where are there so few of them? belayAccording to my estimates 28-35 there should be yes
          3. saltickov.
            saltickov. 24 February 2018 06: 57
            0
            And that you are reacting so painfully, whether Putin himself is alive, that you are so zealously defending, many people have doubts.
        3. Days
          Days 24 February 2018 13: 02
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir 5
          V. Putin has long been a double in all Russian mass media and the CEC should exclude the possibility of substituting another person for the candidate, and the question is whether V. Putin himself is alive. P. Grudinin state organizations for state money blacken, which is a violation of the election law.

          Reptilians rule the world!
          1. SOF
            SOF 27 February 2018 07: 42
            0
            Quote: Dagen
            Reptilians rule the world!

            CREDIT !!!! laughing laughing laughing
            Quote: Vladimir 5
            Toward the curtain, compare the photo of the real V. Putin with the image in the collage at the beginning of the article.

            ... all the culprit of wellness medicine brought from the vicinity of Antares !!!
            About this in omega and britania already talked for a long time !!!!
      3. AA17
        AA17 22 February 2018 12: 35
        +11
        Dear, Stas157. I think the runway program will appear. It will be embodied in the form of a message to officials of the Federal Assembly on March 1, 2018. I think, as usual, there will be a report on the situation in the country and the main directions of domestic and foreign policy for the next 6-year period will be given.
        P.S. For this, the message was postponed from December 2017 to March 2018. The remaining time, all the media will talk about this message. Well, let's see what the President will offer.
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 23 February 2018 19: 47
          +3
          Quote: AA17
          Dear, Stas157. I think the runway program will appear. It will be embodied in the form of a message to officials of the Federal Assembly on March 1, 2018.

          Yes, he is aware that a self-nominated candidate may not represent his program under the law yes What about Stas?
      4. krops777
        krops777 23 February 2018 05: 38
        +3
        What's the problem? Bad program? Call it better!


        Is this a program? And I thought 20 slogans, they saw those the program implies specifics of action, step-by-step instructions, so to speak, but it doesn’t exist, I would love to read and not this “soup set”
      5. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 24 February 2018 11: 12
        +1
        In the light of the published political programs before the elections, I recalled one historical document, unwittingly compared with the proposed programs of candidates. Even the names.
        So, if you discard excessive emotions and treat objectively, for the sake of interest.

        It is not necessary to be a professional historian to study and analyze the following document (historical source) of the last century.
        The program "25 points" of the NSDAP, the National Socialist program of the Workers' Party.
        Nationalist (in its normal understanding) views of that society are reflected.
        And, most interestingly, the phrase "We demand ..." is often found in it.
        This is true to this day, even more relevant. The difference is 100 years, and how relevance has escalated!
        The program is exceptionally good.
        But, in my opinion, now in the programs there are not enough points on the national question. Russian question!
        This is so as not to lose the "dark" voters, apparently ...
        Here, for example, are short excerpts (very short, so that some particularly "impressionable individuals" who do not have impartial analytical thinking do not start freaking out):
        ...
        8. All further immigration of persons ... of origin must be suspended.
        9. All citizens of the state should have equal rights and duties.
        11. Destruction of unearned and easy incomes, as well as the destruction of interest slavery.
        13. We demand the nationalization of all (previously) established enterprises ...
        14. We require the participation of workers and employees in the distribution of profits of large commercial enterprises.
        15. We demand the development and creation of a truly decent pension.
        16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its preservation ... We demand the maintenance of fairly strict accounting for the supply of goods carried out on the basis of state orders, orders of communities and lands.
        18. We demand a ruthless struggle against those who, through their activities, harm the interests of society. We demand the introduction of the death penalty for criminals who have committed a crime against the people, money-lenders, speculators, etc., regardless of their religious or racial background.

        19. We demand the replacement of Roman law, which serves the interests of the materialistic world order, with popular law.

        20. To ensure that every capable and diligent ... opportunity to get a higher education and take a leading position, the state must take care of the comprehensive wide development of our entire public education system. The programs of all educational institutions should be brought into line with the requirements of practical life. From the very beginning of the development of the child’s consciousness, the school should purposefully teach him to understand the ideas of statehood. We demand that especially talented children of poor parents, despite their position in society and occupation, receive education at the expense of the state.
        21. The state should direct all efforts to improving the nation: to ensure the protection of motherhood and childhood, to improve the physical condition of the population through the legislative introduction of compulsory training classes and physical exercises, support clubs engaged in the physical development of youth.
        23. We demand an open political struggle against a deliberate political lie and its dissemination in the press.
        ...
        The difference is 100 years .. and the relevance! Much would not hurt now ...
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2018 07: 26
      +19
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, what did you want? Yes, there are no sensible programs. However, this the first contender for the continuation of the reign concerns.

      especially him. maybe enough "promise"!? boring already. or promise doesn't mean getting married? but in general, all these elections resemble a "fool" ... seriously, it is no longer possible to take. the same promises, the same candidates, to create the illusion of democracy, diluted by freaks. I’ll go to the polls anyway, out of habit, the old yeast, I don’t need to change already, so I have to. recourse
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 22 February 2018 07: 47
        +27
        What good programs everyone has! And everyone cares about me! I will choose them all!
        bully
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 08: 52
          +8
          Uncle Lee Today, 07:47 ↑ New
          What good programs everyone has! And everyone cares about me! I will choose them all!
          bully
          Volodya hi welcome colleague! Everyone’s programs, besides Putin, just get hurt ... Although I hate the little dog, but she doesn’t lie, she said it is necessary to return the Crimea and will return it if elected. And so everyone has solid blah blah blah. I don’t understand the meaning of nominating anyone from the list to the presidency. What, they don’t have enough money, you also need to get budget money for the presidential company? So the money that is allocated, in my opinion, is a penny for these candidates. What neither Sobchak, nor Titov, nor Zhirik, nor the same Grudinin understand that their chances are lower than the baseboard? Then why all this circus? The next show for the gullible, what depends on their choice? Do not tell me ...
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 22 February 2018 09: 06
            +32
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            Everyone’s programs, besides Putin, just get hurt ...

            Exactly - Putin simply doesn’t have it in these elections laughing
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 09: 16
              +16
              Well, what's the point that she would have appeared on his site? Would this make you feel better? Let's not go down to the level of kindergarten, well, adults are kind of, but still believe in fairy tales. request What about the fact that the Communist Party once again drew the program "for all good versus all bad"? Do you believe that someone is going to fulfill it? REALLY, BELIEVE ?!
              If you say “YES”, then I consider the further discussion unnecessary, since I am used to discussing with adequate people, to which I do not attribute to the idolaters of the Grudinin sect.
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 22 February 2018 10: 43
                +29
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                Do you believe that someone is going to fulfill it? REALLY, BELIEVE ?!
                If you say “YES”, then I consider the further discussion unnecessary, since I am used to discussing with adequate people, to which I do not attribute to the idolaters of the Grudinin sect.

                YES - and Putin generally does not give a damn about the voters, since he is not even going to observe formalities. However, the idolaters of the Putin sect do not think about such things, because they remained only on the principle - "We do not need smart people. We need faithful ones" (c)
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 10: 53
                  +15
                  I am not an idolater of the Putin sect and what is happening inside the country I do not like as much as many here.
                  But, I am even a greater opponent of the idolaters of the Grudinin sect, because I rightly believe that it will bring even more troubles than it is now.
                  In this case, of the two evils, I simply choose the lesser evil, but from this it does not cease to be evil.
                  1. Lieutenant Captain
                    Lieutenant Captain 22 February 2018 12: 09
                    +35
                    Strange thing, half a year ago on watered. During the discussions, adherents of the current course used the only thesis "if not who then?"
                    Now they have put forward a real, adequate candidate with the program and measures for its implementation, by the way, put forward the PDS of the NDSR, and the Communist Party only supported the candidacy.
                    The main thing in this program is the change of the liberal course to a social, socialist one, if you will.
                    I do not understand at all, is anyone against the nationalization of resources, the Central Bank, strategic industries, the monopoly on alcohol, the return of stolen money to our economy?
                    I don’t want to load anyone with agitation, but I’ll just go to the polls with my family and vote for Grudinin.
                    I do not expect that “the manna from heaven” will immediately fall, but the fact that the country needs to be restored is obvious to me.
                    I believe that with the current leadership, the country will face not only stagnation, but death.
                    1. Varyag_0711
                      Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 12: 41
                      +15
                      Captain of Lieutenants Today, 12:09 ↑
                      Now put forward a real, adequate candidate
                      Do not tell my slippers, they already have already burst out of laughter. laughing
                      with the program and measures for its implementation
                      Sorry for being rude, but there is no program and even more so there are no measures for its implementation. For a sane person, at first glance it is clear that this is not a program, but a set of high-profile slogans “for all good versus all bad”.
                      The main thing in this program is the change of the liberal course to a social, socialist one, if you will.
                      I repeat, do not tell. Grudinin is an ordinary thief who has earned loot on frauds with real estate. And he should turn the country on the rails of socialism? And the current oligarchs will sit and silently watch how Grudinin will take away what they have acquired with "overwork"? Well, by God, you reason like small children. Everything here is like adults, and let's think in an adult way, rather than throwing myself in hotel rooms. I also want a lot of things, but I understand perfectly well that this is impossible.
                      The mere coming to power of Grudinin will not lead to a change in the political system and, accordingly, the economic course. And to change some already stolen thieves, for others who will begin to steal with new force, this is nonsense.
                      I do not expect that “the manna from heaven” will immediately fall, but the fact that the country needs to be restored is obvious to me.
                      For me, the fact that the country began to rebuild with the advent of Putin is obvious. From 2000 to 2013, development progressed, albeit not at the pace that we would like. In 2014, we were declared a war, so far only an economic one, although a hot phase of this war is going on in Syria. Will you argue with that? If so, then I have nothing more to discuss with you.
                      1. Lieutenant Captain
                        Lieutenant Captain 22 February 2018 13: 21
                        +29
                        Quote: Varyag_0711
                        Grudinin is an ordinary thief who has earned loot on frauds with real estate.

                        Kiselev told you this, the one who in friends has Poroshenko’s petya and who worked for some kind of TV? To repeat the words of this troll, and even more so to trust them, you know ...
                        This is for you Grudinin, a little-known person, and I’ve been watching him for three years now. Now he didn’t rush for candidates, but he was nominated by the PDS of the NDPR, and the Communist Party supported his candidacy. I pay tribute to the courage of this man who ran across the “furrow” of which Now they pour mud from every iron. I have every reason to trust Zhires Alferov and Oleg Smolin, who are members of the Grudinin team, but I have no reason to trust Medvedev and the Kiriyenko-israchitel (head of AP).
                        Regarding the war in Syria, I will not stop repeating that this is a consequence of the position of the Russian Federation regarding Libya at the UN and not the delivery of Gaddafi S-300. There would be no Libya, there would be no Syria. And this RF still comes around.
                      2. free
                        free 22 February 2018 13: 36
                        +17
                        Quote: Varyag_0711
                        Captain of Lieutenants Today, 12:09 ↑
                        Now put forward a real, adequate candidate
                        Do not tell my slippers, they already have already burst out of laughter. laughing
                        with the program and measures for its implementation
                        Sorry for being rude, but there is no program and even more so there are no measures for its implementation. For a sane person, at first glance it is clear that this is not a program, but a set of high-profile slogans “for all good versus all bad”.
                        The main thing in this program is the change of the liberal course to a social, socialist one, if you will.
                        I repeat, do not tell. Grudinin is an ordinary thief who has earned loot on frauds with real estate. And he should turn the country on the rails of socialism? And the current oligarchs will sit and silently watch how Grudinin will take away what they have acquired with "overwork"? Well, by God, you reason like small children. Everything here is like adults, and let's think in an adult way, rather than throwing myself in hotel rooms. I also want a lot of things, but I understand perfectly well that this is impossible.
                        The mere coming to power of Grudinin will not lead to a change in the political system and, accordingly, the economic course. And to change some already stolen thieves, for others who will begin to steal with new force, this is nonsense.
                        I do not expect that “the manna from heaven” will immediately fall, but the fact that the country needs to be restored is obvious to me.
                        For me, the fact that the country began to rebuild with the advent of Putin is obvious. From 2000 to 2013, development progressed, albeit not at the pace that we would like. In 2014, we were declared a war, so far only an economic one, although a hot phase of this war is going on in Syria. Will you argue with that? If so, then I have nothing more to discuss with you.

                        You probably eat hearty, that's ridiculous. But I’m not laughing. (I’m not yet starving, but with such a policy I’ll start soon). Want to live quietly, and young people who have such a life have no prospect what to do? (I don’t among them). I'm tired of asking the gentlemen (you are gentlemen, aren't you) for the Putiners why the May instructions were not followed? You are so cleverly explaining everything, explain this as well.
                      3. Varyag_0711
                        Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 13: 46
                        +13
                        Captain of Lieutenants Today, 13:21 ↑
                        Kiselev told you this
                        I haven’t watched a zombie hunter for a long time, and even less such a garbage can as Kiselev’s program. By the way, I do not advise you, it is harmful to health.
                        This is for you Grudinin a little known person
                        Why do you think so? I’m watching just like you for three years now. And the more I watch, the more he becomes disgusted with me. Slippery, deceitful, two-faced and these are the softest epithets that I can pick up for him, the rest is all just obscene language. And you will never be able to change this my opinion about it with the permission of a person to say.
                        Regarding the war in Syria, I will not stop repeating that this is a consequence of the position of the Russian Federation regarding Libya at the UN and not the delivery of Gaddafi S-300. There would be no Libya, there would be no Syria. And this RF still comes around.
                        I fundamentally disagree, you confuse cause and effect. And Libya has absolutely nothing to do with it.
                      4. Boris25
                        Boris25 22 February 2018 15: 28
                        +1
                        The usual stupid nonsense. Do not disgrace !!!!
                      5. Icarus
                        Icarus 23 February 2018 01: 33
                        +6
                        Varangian 0711. And to change some already stolen thieves, for others who will begin to steal with new force, this is nonsense
                        . You deny the thesis of the ever-increasing needs of man. Grounds? Never "stolen" will not steal less, only more.
                      6. 406ppm2gv
                        406ppm2gv 24 February 2018 23: 47
                        0
                        From 2000 to 2013, development was underway, albeit not at the pace that we would like to [b] [/ b] the curve goes along the barrel in a similar way, that’s all, but the barrel is dead and that's it.
                      7. Sasha_Sar
                        Sasha_Sar 26 February 2018 15: 23
                        0
                        In addition to the defense industry, what was restored and what are such "shisha"? Until 2008, energy prices went wild. Loans were given over the hill at 2-3% to “our bankers,” and they were given to us at 12-15%, and somewhere around 20%. The fact that Crimea returned a low bow in all seriousness. They got sanctions for this, and not only for him. There are no cheap loans, energy prices have fallen, and here in all its glory it became clear that nothing has been done in 13 years. During this time, not a single significant enterprise was opened in my regional center, which provided at least 500 jobs. For that, a "heap" was closed and a CRC was built in their place. People receive an average of 15 to 25 thousand. Young people dump at the first opportunity to Moscow, because she has no work here and is not expected. Hundreds of millions that come from Moscow are spent on public gardens and beaches. A month ago, snow fell in the city, they still cannot clean it. I foresee the question, and where is the "most holy" here, and with that, who built this vertical line for 18 years? Officials are appointed to positions not by knowledge and ability, but by devotion, willingness to fulfill any order, and even if it is criminal. The most annoying thing is that an ordinary citizen suffers from these so-called “sanctions” about which we are “cracked” from all angles, and these sanctions have not been touched on by officials. As they stole "lard" and continue to do so. I conclude, it means there is something to steal. Regarding the elections themselves, I completely agree that this will be a farce, and whoever believes in them is a sucker. VTsIOM has already held elections.
                    2. ProkletyiPirat
                      ProkletyiPirat 22 February 2018 12: 58
                      +5
                      Quote: Lieutenant Captain
                      Is anyone against the nationalization of resources, the Central Bank, strategic industries, the monopoly on alcohol, the return of stolen money to our economy?

                      But I don’t understand this obsession with "nationalization", well, there are hundreds of ways to regulate the industry without organizing a war with the "money-bearing" well, corny, quotas, licenses, taxes, etc. The end result is the same, but hemorrhoids from war are less ....
                      1. Lieutenant Captain
                        Lieutenant Captain 22 February 2018 13: 25
                        +13
                        Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                        ", well, there are hundreds of ways to regulate the industry without organizing a war with the" money-hungry "

                        For the people, this is a matter of principle, to regain what they stole from it vilely.
                      2. ProkletyiPirat
                        ProkletyiPirat 22 February 2018 14: 02
                        +3
                        Quote: Lieutenant Captain
                        he was stolen from him.

                        nobody stole anything from you, you yourself gave it away, you gave it away for beads and glass, oh sorry for jeans and sausage. Now, as they say, "they don’t wave their fists after the fight."
                        You can certainly try to arrange a universal nationalization, only this will do more harm than good, in case of failure, waste resources, and in case of victory, civil war 2.0 will begin. Well, why the heck is this necessary if the same result (i.e. filling the budget of the Russian Federation) can be achieved through quotas, licenses, patents and taxes?
                    3. Days
                      Days 24 February 2018 13: 16
                      +3
                      Quote: Lieutenant Captain
                      Now they have nominated a real, adequate candidate with a program <...>

                      <...> change of course to social, socialist.

                      <...> Is anyone against the nationalization of resources, the Central Bank, strategic industries, alcohol monopoly, return of stolen money to our economy?

                      How to dodge and minus a comment?

                      Is it Grudinin, who will be returned by the classic representative of the oligarch caste, and even withdrawing money from Russia? Oh well. Do you think all about Russia, Yuri Venediktovich?

                      And the nationalization of resources will lead to a sharp drop in the development of these very resources, taxes will continue to go to the budget (i.e., to Grudinin’s pocket, to Swiss banks).
                    4. Ayratelinsion
                      Ayratelinsion 25 February 2018 08: 50
                      0
                      Seriously? Paragraphs 9 and 12 make you wonder - what kind of shisha?
                      Point 19 is a departure from a presidential republic to a parliamentary one, and the departure is strange. Firstly, not in the traditions of the country, and secondly, what is the benefit of Grudinun from becoming president with the functions of the British Queen? Shocking!
                  2. Icarus
                    Icarus 23 February 2018 01: 28
                    +4
                    In this case, of the two evils, I simply choose the lesser evil, but from this it does not cease to be evil.
                    Well, about the greater "evil" - Grudinin, you described in detail above (about the "fake accounts" abroad, about the registration of real estate "secretly"). With this your opinion is clear. Now about the “lesser evil”, tell us, what, in your opinion, is Putin’s activity an evil? And why is it smaller? Because Putin declared the Niva car, two Volga (GAZ 21) over 50 years old, a Skif trailer and an apartment in St. Petersburg with an area of ​​77 square meters?
              2. yehat
                yehat 22 February 2018 11: 57
                +2
                the question is not faith, but what means of control over the implementation of decrees and promises will ultimately have citizens.
                Now the only way is to vote every 4 years in conditions when there is no one to vote for. Only the lesser evil is chosen, time after time, and not what is needed.
                Those. even the appearance of control is illusive.
                1. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 22 February 2018 12: 11
                  +8
                  Quote: yehat
                  Now the only way is to vote every 4 years in conditions when there is no one to vote for.

                  Once every six years.
                  1. yehat
                    yehat 22 February 2018 12: 22
                    0
                    it doesn’t matter))) all the same, nothing really changes.
                    1. freddyk
                      freddyk 22 February 2018 14: 02
                      +7
                      Quote: yehat
                      it doesn’t matter))) all the same, nothing really changes.

                      If you choose the same thing from time to time, so why wait? Putin rightly believes that if he is elected every time, then everyone is happy with everything. So why change something?
                      1. yehat
                        yehat 22 February 2018 14: 08
                        +3
                        With the advent of Putin, much has changed, but they expected him to continue the changes, but this is not.
              3. free
                free 22 February 2018 12: 52
                +16
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                Well, what's the point that she would have appeared on his site? Would this make you feel better? Let's not go down to the level of kindergarten, well, adults are kind of, but still believe in fairy tales. request What about the fact that the Communist Party once again drew the program "for all good versus all bad"? Do you believe that someone is going to fulfill it? REALLY, BELIEVE ?!
                If you say “YES”, then I consider the further discussion unnecessary, since I am used to discussing with adequate people, to which I do not attribute to the idolaters of the Grudinin sect.

                That is, you, as an exceptionally adequate person, offer the people to continue to endure this bacchanalia?
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 13: 24
                  +10
                  As an adequate person, I just understand that with the advent of Grudinin, this bacchanalia will not stop turning, but from just a bacchanalia it will pass into the complete collapse of the state.
                  If you do not see such obvious consequences, then you and I will never come to a common opinion, to my deep regret.
                  1. Lieutenant Captain
                    Lieutenant Captain 22 February 2018 13: 37
                    +15
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    then you and I will never come to a common opinion, to my deep regret.

                    I agree that unfortunately hi
                    But understand that hiding your head in the sand now, we will get a disaster in the near future. Keep in mind, I do not set as my task to agitate you, but simply bring you information.
                    So: The government of popular trust was formed, just in case of such a catastrophe, so that there would be no vacuum of power and without a relative to the elections. And second, do you know why the little dog flew to Fashington? For guarantees, a person close to her. She openly stated this in each of her speeches, Travel of three persons and "silence of the lambs" from the same opera. You, I hope, you will find a competent person the rest of the information on the net, and I just gave you directions for thought. And one more thing, do not think that one of Us does not love our long-suffering Motherland and since the “unified” communists and monarchists have united in a united front, stepping on their principles, this is something to say. Something like this, Colleague. hi
                    1. Varyag_0711
                      Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 13: 54
                      +15
                      Captain of Lieutenants Today, 13:37 ↑
                      But understand that hiding your head in the sand now, we will get a disaster in the near future.
                      It is precisely Grudinin’s coming to power that will be a disaster for Russia! All the guys, with all due respect, I consider the question settled. You remain with your opinion, I am with yours. To convince each other no chance, neither you nor me. Therefore, I consider the further dispute unnecessary, and there is no longer any time, we must run.
                      Therefore, with all due respect, let me congratulate everyone on the upcoming holiday, Defender of the Fatherland Day, especially for those who are actually serving, and those who have already carried this service with flying colors!
                      I have the honor! hi soldier
                  2. free
                    free 22 February 2018 13: 40
                    +9
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    As an adequate person, I just understand that with the advent of Grudinin, this bacchanalia will not stop turning, but from just a bacchanalia it will pass into the complete collapse of the state.
                    If you do not see such obvious consequences, then you and I will never come to a common opinion, to my deep regret.

                    Well, but as an adequate person, you must understand that this bacchanalia will destroy the country in the end, a matter of time. So what to do?
                    1. marline
                      marline 22 February 2018 15: 09
                      +1
                      Quote: free
                      Well, but as an adequate person, you must understand that this bacchanalia will destroy the country in the end, a matter of time. So what to do?

                      The fact that the country will be destroyed by "bacchanalia" I first read in 2003, well, i.e. these are all yours - “Putin is a thief and will destroy the country,” I have been reading periodically since 2003. Now 2018, fifteen years have passed, I'm still waiting ... Of course, I want to ask when?
                  3. yehat
                    yehat 22 February 2018 14: 10
                    +2
                    wai wai dear genatsvali, why say so?
                    hysterical references to you invented axioms somehow do not roll
                    there is a certain amount of meaning in your words, but if you please adequately express it,
                    rather than arrogantly invoke evidence.
            2. Greenwood
              Greenwood 22 February 2018 11: 01
              +16
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Putin simply doesn’t have it in these elections
              Why does he need a program? He’s already so cool, he rides a horse with a naked torso, flies with Siberian Cranes, dives after amphorae. There are so many merits.
          2. Mikhail m
            Mikhail m 23 February 2018 07: 38
            +3
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            said it is necessary to return the Crimea and in fact will return if elected

            And Crimea will not ask, will return. It’s necessary to fight the Crimeans, but the promises must be kept. Otherwise, they will not invite you to a prayer breakfast.
        2. tamara
          tamara 23 February 2018 11: 46
          +1
          It doesn’t work, and if it works out, then Russia will have Dom-3
        3. tamara
          tamara 23 February 2018 11: 50
          +1
          Then Ksyusha will release the Dom-3 program, although we still cannot move away from the Dom-2 program.
        4. SOF
          SOF 27 February 2018 07: 45
          +2
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          What good programs everyone has! And everyone cares about me! I will choose them all!
          bully

          good - convinced - I WILL ALSO GO !!!
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 22 February 2018 15: 19
        +5
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        maybe enough "promise"!? boring already. or promise doesn't mean getting married? and

        And what Yuryevich Grudinin does not promise something laughing we hear the same 20 steps since 1996 from Zyuganov, and things are still there
        In general, for all the good against all the bad. Like all the other candidates.

        That is, in the State Duma. laughing Well, believe it. yes
    3. Cube123
      Cube123 22 February 2018 09: 01
      +13
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, what did you want? Yes, there are no sensible programs. However, this concerns the first contender for the continuation of the reign.

      The first applicant - this does not apply! Unlike other candidates, for 18 years he has shown by deeds what he can and does. Real things that everyone sees speak for him. And the rest have to promise, simply because there is nothing to show. And for some, you can show something that clearly does not paint the candidate.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2018 09: 06
        +28
        Quote: Cube123
        Real things that everyone sees speak for him.

        what did he do for people? just answer. his government makes laws only against the people. requisitions, requisitions, requisitions.
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 22 February 2018 09: 08
          +9
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: Cube123
          Real things that everyone sees speak for him.

          what did he do for people? just answer. his government makes laws only against the people. requisitions, requisitions, requisitions.

          I don’t know about you, but, compared to today, I remember the 90s as a nightmare. Moreover, in the late 90s there was such a feeling of hopelessness that it seemed there was no way out.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2018 09: 25
            +31
            Quote: Cube123
            I don’t know about you, but, compared to today, I remember the 90s as a nightmare.

            found something to compare ... for example, 80 years I was quite satisfied with it. Delicious products, free education and medicine, and, housing. A powerful country, no Americans on the horizon. victory at the Olympics ... continue?
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 22 February 2018 09: 26
              +8
              I wrote about the 90s. Continue?
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 22 February 2018 09: 52
                +24
                Quote: Cube123
                I wrote about the 90s. Continue?

                Well, compare even with 1917,23 31 52 ... to continue? What did you want from the 90s when their lads took the country? Are you satisfied with the plastic cheese, paper and soy sausage and palm oil in all the "milk"? happy for you ... how little you need ... store shelves clogged with threshing floor, and the availability of cars on credit is your ceiling ... survive to retirement, then understand the meaning of the word "survive".
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 10: 15
                  +14
                  Andrei Yurievich, one could agree with you, if not for one BUT. The fact is that with the advent of Grudinin, Zyuganov, and even more so Titov or Sobchak, the cheese in the store will not become dairy, but on the contrary will become even more plastic. You must be aware that it is not possible to restore the livestock of cattle at the click of a finger. No one in capitalist society will work at a loss, and raising cattle is not cheap and difficult to pay back. The purchase of milk, for example, from the same farmers ranges from 25-30 rubles per liter, but on the shelves of stores it is already under a hundred, or even more. Who's guilty? Manufacturers? No, prices are set by networkers, most of whom are not citizens of Russia at all.
                  You will tell me now that this must be radically changed, I AGREE, IT IS NECESSARY! Yes, just to change this, we need a new revolution and civil war, with all the ensuing consequences. Are you ready for this? I personally do not, and I repeat, I’m not happy a hundred times with what I have, but in order to do as many would like, everything needs to be broken and rebuilt. Only here is the guarantee that there will be another Joseph Stalin in the country, who would be able to do this? And where is the guarantee that he will again be able to come to power? There are no such guarantees.
                  So we are reaping the fruits of the collapse of the USSR and we will reap a long time. Well, the fact that Putin or Grudinin will be in power will not change anything. Grudinin will change Putin’s friends, to his friends and all. And again, where is the guarantee that Grudinin’s friends will not be greedier than those who are now? I’m more than sure that they will turn out, that’s why I’ll vote not so much for Putin as against Grudinin and other freaks.
              2. Greenwood
                Greenwood 22 February 2018 11: 05
                +14
                And for you, the thesis about the 90s is the only reason to vote for a particular candidate? Those. Is the need for a change of power, a change in the economic course, and the fight against corruption - these are all empty words?
                1. Varyag_0711
                  Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 11: 42
                  +12
                  Greenwood Today, 11:05 ↑
                  Those. the need to change the economic course,
                  Yeah, Grudinin will come and change “Putin’s friends” to “friends of Grudinin,” an excellent change in the “economic course” ... laughing
                  anti-corruption
                  Again, Grudinin will come and how he will begin to fight corruption, that shreds will fly into the back streets and from this fight his children will have another property abroad ... laughing
                  Are these all empty words?
                  You said it yourself! Namely empty words and sheer populism, this is the true face of your "popular" candidate.
                  1. Greenwood
                    Greenwood 22 February 2018 12: 16
                    +13
                    Quote: Varyag_0711
                    Namely empty words and sheer populism, this is the true face of your "popular" candidate.
                    Ok, what is yours? Well, in addition to amphora, Siberian Cranes and Kalina frets.
                    1. BecmepH
                      BecmepH 22 February 2018 13: 17
                      +3
                      Quote: Greenwood
                      fret viburnum.

                      Don’t leave it. This is holy!
                      1. Greenwood
                        Greenwood 23 February 2018 05: 14
                        +5

                        laughing laughing laughing good
                        Lada Kalina - my car!
                2. 406ppm2gv
                  406ppm2gv 24 February 2018 23: 53
                  +2
                  And for you, the thesis about the 90s is the only reason to vote for a particular candidate? [b] [/ b] I think that we are already half a step from the 90s.
              3. BecmepH
                BecmepH 22 February 2018 13: 11
                +16
                Quote: Cube123
                I wrote about the 90s. Continue?

                Damn, how did you (not you personally) get with your 90s! There is nothing more to compare, or what? Yes, even compared with the 90th year, the current situation of industry in the ass. Only gas production, oil production, grain (not the highest quality) and a couple of points are in the black. And that’s it !!!
                Why do not you compare with the best, happiest years of our state. Or are you afraid of all the brothers? And even the guarantor does not reassure?
                1. Cube123
                  Cube123 22 February 2018 16: 17
                  +5
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  Why do not you compare with the best, happiest years of our state.

                  Because it is necessary to compare the state of affairs, when he came to power, with today. And not an abstract "spherical horse in a vacuum." Those who survived this time remember well how quickly, in just a few months, the country Gorbachev, and then Yeltsin, were destroyed.
                  1. Sasha_Sar
                    Sasha_Sar 26 February 2018 15: 44
                    0
                    Well yes ! And whom did Yeltsin leave for the “kingdom”? Who did not issue a guarantee of immunity to him? Who "Misha 2%" kept his prime minister for the first time? Who opened and gave a fiery speech at the opening of the Yeltsin Center? Yes, all the "Yeltsin hangers-ons" who have not set their sights on the "kingdom" still live and do not complain. As they "sawed" the budget, they continue to do it, because they don’t know how to do anything else.
              4. free
                free 22 February 2018 13: 46
                +8
                Quote: Cube123
                I wrote about the 90s. Continue?

                90s? Still how to continue! What is happening with light industry? Machine tool industry? Heavy industry? Watchmaking factories, electronics? Shares of foreign capital? And other ................
          2. AA17
            AA17 22 February 2018 12: 41
            +20
            Dear Cube, 123. (This my comment was laid out on another branch. I repeat. This is an objection when they recall the 90s). “... You want to support the course that Kudrin, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov, Chubais and other faithful“ witnesses of E. Gaidar ”offer us. Those people who have broken the old system are the organizers of the famine. You forgot Chubais’s statement:“ ... We did not collect money, but the destruction of communism. ... And we knew that every factory sold was a nail in the lid of the tomb of communism. Is it expensive, cheap, free, with a surcharge - the twentieth question, the twentieth. But the first question is one: each private owner who has appeared in Russia is irreversibility. This is irreversibility. Just like on September 1, 92, the first voucher issued, we literally grabbed from the hands of the Reds the decision to stop privatization in Russia, just like every next step, we moved exactly in the same direction. Privatization in Russia until 97 was not an economic process at all. It solved a completely different scale of the problem, which few understood then, and even more so in the West. She solved the main task - to stop communism. We have solved this problem. We solved it completely ... ". These people, led by Gaidar and Chubais, destroyed economic ties between the republics of the USSR. These traitors destroyed production chains. THERE is the real creator of collapse and chaos in RUSSIA, which resulted in non-payment of wages. These people are still in power. They destroyed the economy of the USSR, BUT WE CAN NOT BUILD ANYTHING IN REPEAT. Because they are not creators. In our current government there are no people with specialized education. There are no people with technical education. People in the government are blind and lead our country into a dead end. "
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 22 February 2018 12: 51
              +8
              Dear Alexander Anatolyevich!
              Chubais is clearly not the hero of my novel smile
              Regarding the rest, I will say that they appeared when the USSR was already destroyed by the hands of Gorbachev. It is his incompetence! and stupidity! first they collapsed CMEA, then the USSR. Therefore, whatever they say about the role of the individual in history, I am very afraid of incompetent leaders, especially in the leadership of the country. A fool of good intentions can do such a thing that a bunch of smart people will not be able to sort it out later.
            2. free
              free 22 February 2018 13: 18
              +5
              Quote: AA17
              Dear Cube, 123. (This my comment was laid out on another branch. I repeat. This is an objection when they recall the 90s). “... You want to support the course that Kudrin, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov, Chubais and other faithful“ witnesses of E. Gaidar ”offer us. Those people who have broken the old system are the organizers of the famine. You forgot Chubais’s statement:“ ... We did not collect money, but the destruction of communism. ... And we knew that every factory sold was a nail in the lid of the tomb of communism. Is it expensive, cheap, free, with a surcharge - the twentieth question, the twentieth. But the first question is one: each private owner who has appeared in Russia is irreversibility. This is irreversibility. Just like on September 1, 92, the first voucher issued, we literally grabbed from the hands of the Reds the decision to stop privatization in Russia, just like every next step, we moved exactly in the same direction. Privatization in Russia until 97 was not an economic process at all. It solved a completely different scale of the problem, which few understood then, and even more so in the West. She solved the main task - to stop communism. We have solved this problem. We solved it completely ... ". These people, led by Gaidar and Chubais, destroyed economic ties between the republics of the USSR. These traitors destroyed production chains. THERE is the real creator of collapse and chaos in RUSSIA, which resulted in non-payment of wages. These people are still in power. They destroyed the economy of the USSR, BUT WE CAN NOT BUILD ANYTHING IN REPEAT. Because they are not creators. In our current government there are no people with specialized education. There are no people with technical education. People in the government are blind and lead our country into a dead end. "

              They are not people!
            3. eleronn
              eleronn 25 February 2018 16: 09
              +1
              Quote: AA17
              Dear Cube, 123. (This my comment was laid out on another branch. I repeat. This is an objection when they recall the 90s). “... You want to support the course that Kudrin, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov, Chubais and other faithful“ witnesses of E. Gaidar ”offer us. Those people who have broken the old system are the organizers of the famine. You forgot Chubais’s statement:“ ... We did not collect money, but the destruction of communism. ... And we knew that every factory sold was a nail in the lid of the tomb of communism. Is it expensive, cheap, free, with a surcharge - the twentieth question, the twentieth. But the first question is one: each private owner who has appeared in Russia is irreversibility. This is irreversibility. Just like on September 1, 92, the first voucher issued, we literally grabbed from the hands of the Reds the decision to stop privatization in Russia, just like every next step, we moved exactly in the same direction. Privatization in Russia until 97 was not an economic process at all. It solved a completely different scale of the problem, which few understood then, and even more so in the West. She solved the main task - to stop communism. We have solved this problem. We solved it completely ... ". These people, led by Gaidar and Chubais, destroyed economic ties between the republics of the USSR. These traitors destroyed production chains. THERE is the real creator of collapse and chaos in RUSSIA, which resulted in non-payment of wages. These people are still in power. They destroyed the economy of the USSR, BUT WE CAN NOT BUILD ANYTHING IN REPEAT. Because they are not creators. In our current government there are no people with specialized education. There are no people with technical education. People in the government are blind and lead our country into a dead end. "

              BRAVO!!!
          3. free
            free 22 February 2018 12: 54
            +5
            Quote: Cube123
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            Quote: Cube123
            Real things that everyone sees speak for him.

            what did he do for people? just answer. his government makes laws only against the people. requisitions, requisitions, requisitions.

            I don’t know about you, but, compared to today, I remember the 90s as a nightmare. Moreover, in the late 90s there was such a feeling of hopelessness that it seemed there was no way out.

            Do not shy away from questions about matters that everyone knows.
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 22 February 2018 13: 05
              +6
              Quote: free

              Do not shy away from questions about matters that everyone knows.

              And I don’t shy away. Just any business can be evaluated in different ways. There are, for example, integral estimates, such as the laws of conservation of energy, mass ... When you can immediately compare complex multidimensional factors. Such an assessment, for example, can serve as a comparison of the dynamics of economic indicators during management. Daily petty decisions are not compared, but compares the specific result achievedwhich incorporates all the activity. In my opinion, the country's economic indicators over the past 17 years speak for themselves. For any team, the results in each particular match are not so important as the result achieved by the end of the tournament.
              1. free
                free 22 February 2018 13: 20
                +3
                Quote: Cube123
                Quote: free

                Do not shy away from questions about matters that everyone knows.

                And I don’t shy away. Just any business can be evaluated in different ways. There are, for example, integral estimates, such as the laws of conservation of energy, mass ... When you can immediately compare complex multidimensional factors. Such an assessment, for example, can serve as a comparison of the dynamics of economic indicators during management. Daily petty decisions are not compared[/ b], and [b] compares the specific result achievedwhich incorporates all the activity. In my opinion, the country's economic indicators over the past 17 years speak for themselves. For any team, the results in each particular match are not so important as the result achieved by the end of the tournament.

                That is, if they were completely petty?
                1. Cube123
                  Cube123 22 February 2018 13: 27
                  +6
                  Quote: free
                  That is, if they were completely petty?

                  Why misinterpret? Any path begins with the first step, and the path covered consists of a bunch of small steps. But where you come as a result depends, inter alia, on each step individually and on how correctly you keep the direction. Sometimes you have to go around the mountains, sometimes down to the ravines.
                  1. free
                    free 22 February 2018 13: 50
                    +4
                    Quote: Cube123
                    Quote: free
                    That is, if they were completely petty?

                    Why misinterpret? Any path begins with the first step, and the path covered consists of a bunch of small steps. But where you come as a result depends, inter alia, on each step individually and on how correctly you keep the direction. Sometimes you have to go around the mountains, sometimes down to the ravines.

                    What are your specific achievements?
                    1. Sasha_Sar
                      Sasha_Sar 26 February 2018 15: 52
                      +1
                      And there is no business. There are indicators laughing The price of a barrel is rising, the indicator is positive, fell, bad. But this adversary is to blame!
          4. vova1973
            vova1973 24 February 2018 05: 35
            +3
            late 90s how much did oil cost? And I remember under Yeltsin at the end of 90 the factories began to work, under Putin began to close.
      2. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 22 February 2018 10: 12
        +13
        Unlike other candidates, for 18 years he has shown by deeds what he can and does.

        Of course, these cases speak for him, from the last tax on street toilets was also introduced by other outbuildings.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 22 February 2018 13: 21
          +6
          Quote: Bulrumeb
          Unlike other candidates, for 18 years he has shown by deeds what he can and does.

          Of course, these cases speak for him, from the last tax on street toilets was also introduced by other outbuildings.

          And from April 7, in the country in a car not equipped with an airbag, the driver will have to wear a helmet !!!
          Tell me nothing to do with GDP? And with whom there are so many viable laws, decrees, etc. accepted?
          1. yehat
            yehat 22 February 2018 14: 15
            +4
            There is such a profession - to adopt dibious laws.
            And this is not for Putin, but for "not a demon." He is the lawyer, he was the one who pushed the law on the police and the censer.
            1. Z_G_R
              Z_G_R 22 February 2018 23: 55
              +8
              If Putin does not control lawmaking, then maybe it's time to retire? And if it controls, then there are even more questions. I think he knows everything, the boss always owns the basic issues.
      3. Greenwood
        Greenwood 22 February 2018 11: 03
        +17
        Quote: Cube123
        Unlike other candidates, for 18 years he has shown by deeds what he can and does. Real things that everyone sees speak for him. And the rest have to promise, simply because there is nothing to show.
        Hmm, you are comparing a person who has been in power for 18 years with people who have not been in power. And let's put it in comparison with Putin’s Grudinin in 1999, did the latter have much merit at that time?
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 22 February 2018 12: 01
          +7
          Quote: Greenwood
          Hmm, you are comparing a person who has been in power for 18 years with people who have not been in power.

          I compare the person from whom I know what to expect from those from whom I do not know what to expect. What guarantee is there that there will be no new Yeltsin, Gorbachev or Khrushchev among them? I certainly do not expect anything good from Grudinin. But this is my opinion. I do not impose it on anyone.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 22 February 2018 12: 17
            +15
            Quote: Cube123
            I compare the person from whom I know what to expect from those from whom I do not know what to expect.
            In the 99th they also knew what to expect from him?
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 22 February 2018 12: 25
              +5
              Quote: Greenwood
              Quote: Cube123
              I compare the person from whom I know what to expect from those from whom I do not know what to expect.
              In the 99th they also knew what to expect from him?

              It was already clear. Before becoming President, he had already worked as the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, and the head of the FSB, and the secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation. Plus a good school, strategic thinking ... And these?

              Why do you need to pass exams for driving to drive a car, but not for the President of the country? So I don’t understand what. Will you admit to the operating table a surgeon with an incomplete secondary education? Do you realize the depth of risk?
              1. free
                free 22 February 2018 13: 22
                +11
                Quote: Cube123
                Quote: Greenwood
                Quote: Cube123
                I compare the person from whom I know what to expect from those from whom I do not know what to expect.
                In the 99th they also knew what to expect from him?

                It was already clear. Before becoming President, he had already worked as the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, and the head of the FSB, and the secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation. Plus a good school, strategic thinking ... And these?

                Why do you need to pass exams for driving to drive a car, but not for the President of the country? So I don’t understand what. Will you admit to the operating table a surgeon with an incomplete secondary education? Do you realize the depth of risk?

                I’m watching the country, the Yeltsin’s course is still going, but that’s it! And at the same time explain why the May decrees have not yet been implemented?
              2. Greenwood
                Greenwood 22 February 2018 13: 51
                +12
                Quote: Cube123
                worked as the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, and the head of the FSB, and the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation
                Jumped from post to post. Normal bureaucratic work. And where are the results of this work?
                Quote: Cube123
                Plus a good school, strategic thinking ...
                How is this manifested?
                Quote: Cube123
                Why do you need to pass exams for driving to drive a car, but not for the President of the country?
                Where did Putin pass the exam in 99th? What has he done so useful in comparison with other officials of the 90s? The people recognized him only in the 99th year, six months before the election, when Yeltsin brought him closer to himself.
                1. yehat
                  yehat 22 February 2018 14: 17
                  +3
                  surrender on the part of Putin really was and is, but partial and sometimes simply forced. But this cannot be compared with the change that Gorbachev made.
                2. Cube123
                  Cube123 22 February 2018 16: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  Quote: Cube123
                  worked as the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, and the head of the FSB, and the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation
                  Jumped from post to post. Normal bureaucratic work. And where are the results of this work?

                  And I see this as the fact that he was run in different situations and looked at what he is capable of. Who wants to let the "dark horse" into control of the country? What this leads to is clearly seen in today's position of Trump. It seems that he wants to do something, but there is no support team and things are not moving.
                  1. Greenwood
                    Greenwood 22 February 2018 16: 46
                    +3
                    Quote: Cube123
                    And I see this as the fact that he was run in different situations and looked at what he is capable of.
                    Why was he chosen for break-in, and not someone else?
                    1. Cube123
                      Cube123 22 February 2018 17: 01
                      +2
                      Quote: Greenwood
                      Quote: Cube123
                      And I see this as the fact that he was run in different situations and looked at what he is capable of.
                      Why was he chosen for break-in, and not someone else?

                      Are you familiar with the concept of “Correct Personnel Policy”? Remember Stalin: "Cadres decide everything!" wink
                      Today's contests of promising managers are steps in the right direction. The more complex the management object, the higher should be the qualification of the manager. I don’t really want to admit the situation of the “elephant in the china shop”. Yeltsin’s example has sobered many.
                      1. Greenwood
                        Greenwood 23 February 2018 04: 57
                        +8
                        Quote: Cube123
                        Reply Qiti
                        I am afraid, under Stalin, a shot like Putin would hardly have made its way somewhere. Especially after leaving the KGB at the height of perestroika.
              3. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 26 February 2018 15: 57
                +2
                What is the strategy of thinking, remember Sobchak, his teacher. To which he owes the grave of life. They voted for him, for two reasons: the whole country was tired of "Understanding ..." always sick or forever .... Since his arrival on January 1, 2000, they began to pay salaries and pensions. All!
        2. APIS
          APIS 22 February 2018 12: 12
          0
          Only one is that Putin is not Yeltsin.
          So one remains ...
      4. Lieutenant Captain
        Lieutenant Captain 22 February 2018 11: 35
        +21
        Quote: Cube123
        Unlike other candidates, over the past 18 years he has shown that he can and does

        I recall the affairs of Putin:
        1. The collapse and privatization of RAO UES-a multiple increase in electricity prices.
        2. Elimination of the WORLD.
        3. Camran and Lourdes
        4. Liquidation of 70 thousand enterprises.
        5. The collapse of housing and communal services prices have increased many times.
        6. The collapse of education and health.
        7. Monetization of benefits.
        8. Export abroad of a trillion dollars.
        9. Loss of a number of territories.
        10. Serdyukovschina.
        If someone wants to can continue.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 22 February 2018 12: 18
          +5
          So in the 90s it was worse. lol
          1. Lieutenant Captain
            Lieutenant Captain 22 February 2018 12: 33
            +17
            Quote: Greenwood
            So in the 90s it was worse.

            Yeah, he’s taking the dumb thing, brrrrrr .. belay But in the 90s I found a positivist, then the country did not steer a coop lake.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 22 February 2018 14: 04
              +12
              Quote: Lieutenant Captain
              coop pond
              Then it was the Brigade, and after the 2000th it became a faction. good
              1. Lieutenant Captain
                Lieutenant Captain 22 February 2018 14: 42
                +7
                Quote: Greenwood
                Then it was the Brigade, and after the 2000th it became a faction.

                Nice to talk with a smart person drinks
                And most importantly, how wonderful we dissected everything, what a frog laughing
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 23 February 2018 04: 55
                  +2
                  That's for sure!!! hi
              2. Sasha_Sar
                Sasha_Sar 26 February 2018 15: 59
                +1
                Offset! You can’t say more precisely.
            2. SOF
              SOF 27 February 2018 07: 58
              0
              Quote: Lieutenant Captain
              Yeah, he’s taking the dumb thing, brrrrrr.

              .... well, for a snack the famous "BUGAGA" ....
              1. SOF
                SOF 27 February 2018 15: 51
                +1
                Quote: Greenwood
                [That's for sure!!!.

                Quote: Sasha_Sar
                [Offset! You can’t say more precisely ..

                Quote: free
                [!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good

                ... what an idyll laughing laughing laughing
                ... cool because he sings ??? Right? Straight balm in your ears ????? laughing laughing laughing
                And now we turn on the brain, which has pretty much atrophied in the election campaign, we’ll go into the business of this soup (Captain Lieutenants) and observe an interesting picture:

                ... and we’re trying to understand how your “comrade” in political struggle contrived from February 20 of this year, having drawn 52 AJZHZHZh comments, to get into the lieutenants already? laughing THIS IS PRODUCTIVITY !!!
                .... and during the "patriotic" reflections on the theme of the 90s, we understand the meaning of this expression with the most thorough example:
                Quote: Captain of the Lieutenants
                And most importantly, how wonderful we dissected everything, what a frog

                ....... cover the nakedness of the brain ...... laughing
                YOU have dissected it laughing
        2. free
          free 22 February 2018 13: 24
          +10
          Quote: Captain of the Lieutenants
          Quote: Cube123
          Unlike other candidates, over the past 18 years he has shown that he can and does

          I recall the affairs of Putin:
          1. The collapse and privatization of RAO UES-a multiple increase in electricity prices.
          2. Elimination of the WORLD.
          3. Camran and Lourdes
          4. Liquidation of 70 thousand enterprises.
          5. The collapse of housing and communal services prices have increased many times.
          6. The collapse of education and health.
          7. Monetization of benefits.
          8. Export abroad of a trillion dollars.
          9. Loss of a number of territories.
          10. Serdyukovschina.
          If someone wants to can continue.

          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good
          1. yehat
            yehat 22 February 2018 14: 18
            +6
            how did he manage all this ??? Well, just a slave in the galleys
            and 130 million people stood nearby and watched?
        3. ivagulin
          ivagulin 22 February 2018 13: 29
          +6
          today they also allowed the import of chicken from America and Canada, they damn us face on the asphalt (sorry sanctions), and we wiped ourselves out and "thank you gentleman for not much"
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 22 February 2018 13: 52
            +7
            Trump's legs !!! lol Hello 90s !!!
        4. rruvim
          rruvim 22 February 2018 13: 40
          +13
          11. The collapse of the domestic civil aircraft industry (instead of 6% in 2008, now only 3% of domestic aircraft in our civilian fleet);
          12. Replacing domestic machinery and machine tools with “screwdriver” assemblies, for example, the DMG-Mori assembly plant in Ulyanovsk;
          13. The complete collapse of the domestic cosmonautics, a catastrophic loss of positions on commercial launches;
          14. The complete collapse of civil shipbuilding. Single domestic vessels except the "shell" for 90% consist of imported components including engines and power plants;
          15. For 18 years of “rule” the issues of the domestic base of electronic components have not been resolved, especially in the military segment;
          16. Almost all strategic enterprises and corporations in their "private" package owned foreign owners;
          17. Among the "new" oligarchs appeared the personal friends of the Foreman: for example. Sechin and the Rotenberg brothers.

          If anyone wants, he can continue.
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 22 February 2018 23: 47
            +2
            Quote: rruvim
            If anyone wants, he can continue.

            In all respects, the blame on the Communists is all the result of the collapse of the USSR. The Communists asked ... if the USSR, vote for Grudinin - asked ... Russia, cheers comrades.
        5. Setrac
          Setrac 22 February 2018 23: 44
          +1
          Quote: Lieutenant Captain
          10. Serdyukovschina.

          The results of the "Serdyukovschina" we see in the Crimea and in Syria.
          On many points of the Communist fault, some points are not certain. For example, Putin cannot be blamed for the flooding of Mir station, but one may ask why a new one was not built to replace the flooded station.
          Quote: Lieutenant Captain
          9. Loss of a number of territories.

          Here in more detail please.
      5. yehat
        yehat 22 February 2018 12: 24
        +10
        you know, it would be very strange for 20 years of running such a country not to have done things.
        so this is not an argument towards Putin.
        all the more so since questions have accumulated why a whole list of cases is not being done.
      6. free
        free 22 February 2018 12: 53
        +6
        Quote: Cube123
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, what did you want? Yes, there are no sensible programs. However, this concerns the first contender for the continuation of the reign.

        The first applicant - this does not apply! Unlike other candidates, for 18 years he has shown by deeds what he can and does. Real things that everyone sees speak for him. And the rest have to promise, simply because there is nothing to show. And for some, you can show something that clearly does not paint the candidate.

        Be so kind, dear, tell me about the merits that already see everything.
        1. dSK
          dSK 22 February 2018 21: 29
          +2
          Quote: free
          merits who already see everything.

          You have a short memory. Putin stopped the seizure by militants of Dagestan. In 2008, he flew in from Beijing and, manually in North Ossetia, “dispelled” the Georgian attack. "Soak in the toilet" continues constantly. And for that, many thanks to him.
          Grudinin - "Gorbachev 2,0", an exact copy.
          1. free
            free 22 February 2018 22: 09
            +4
            dSK
            11. The collapse of the domestic civil aircraft industry (instead of 6% in 2008, now only 3% of domestic aircraft in our civilian fleet);
            12. Replacing domestic machinery and machine tools with “screwdriver” assemblies, for example, the DMG-Mori assembly plant in Ulyanovsk;
            13. The complete collapse of the domestic cosmonautics, a catastrophic loss of positions on commercial launches;
            14. The complete collapse of civil shipbuilding. Single domestic vessels except the "shell" for 90% consist of imported components including engines and power plants;
            15. For 18 years of “rule” the issues of the domestic base of electronic components have not been resolved, especially in the military segment;
            16. Almost all strategic enterprises and corporations in their "private" package owned foreign owners;
            17. Among the "new" oligarchs appeared the personal friends of the Foreman: for example. Sechin and the Rotenberg brothers.
            WAITING FOR YOUR COMMENTS!
            1. turbris
              turbris 28 February 2018 11: 31
              0
              What comments are you waiting for? So they tried and summarized that everything is “bad” and expect someone to praise you for this? The comrade did useless work, here with this "analytical" material there is a direct road to a psychiatrist, others see not only one negative and they will build Russia further, but people like you are slag that will never be useful to anyone.
          2. Z_G_R
            Z_G_R 22 February 2018 23: 59
            +4
            all power .. maybe it would be better for him in a mine of defense?) Time to fight and time to build up. His time is gone, it is time to begin to create a state, not Ltd.
          3. Sasha_Sar
            Sasha_Sar 26 February 2018 16: 07
            0
            The Georgian "attack" was "ruined" by the commander of the 58th army. While "Dimon with Taburetkin" snot wound on a fist. The question is why Putin did not sign the resignation of Zubkov’s "son-in-law"? As for the "toilet", it turned out to be "easier to buy" than to "wet", right?
          4. free
            free 26 February 2018 18: 57
            +1
            Quote: dsk
            Quote: free
            merits who already see everything.

            You have a short memory. Putin stopped the seizure by militants of Dagestan. In 2008, he flew in from Beijing and, manually in North Ossetia, “dispelled” the Georgian attack. "Soak in the toilet" continues constantly. And for that, many thanks to him.
            Grudinin - "Gorbachev 2,0", an exact copy.

            Personally, what? And all this time I thought it was the army! Ah, he gave the go-ahead, so anyone in his place would have done the same. What is the merit?
      7. yehat
        yehat 22 February 2018 14: 25
        +10
        18 years in business has shown that he can and does

        Siberian Cranes, figure skaters, fishing, running along the Moscow highway, distributing unrealistically expensive watches, soaking in the toilet, diving in the bathyscaphe. Yes, maybe it does
        But what did he do for us?
    4. vlad_vlad
      vlad_vlad 22 February 2018 11: 18
      +4
      I think these elections are a waste of time and money. Who are you trying to show your "democracy" to? To the West?

      in the 90s, no matter how they were scolded right now, there were elections from the word "choose" - Yeltsin, the Communists .. also, of course, a lot of falsehoods, but there was a struggle, a sense of participation in the process, the result is not clear ...

      who now (what’s here, what’s yours) doesn’t understand that Putin is the Tsar and Amen forever and ever?
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 22 February 2018 13: 25
        +2
        Quote: vlad_vlad
        I think these elections are a waste of time and money. Who are you trying to show your "democracy" to? To the West?

        in the 90s, no matter how they were scolded right now, there were elections from the word "choose" - Yeltsin, the Communists .. also, of course, a lot of falsehoods, but there was a struggle, a sense of participation in the process, the result is not clear ...

        who now (what’s here, what’s yours) doesn’t understand that Putin is the Tsar and Amen forever and ever?

        So we are about the same ...
      2. yehat
        yehat 22 February 2018 14: 27
        0
        Yeltsin, the Communists .. also, of course, a lot of falsehood, but there was a struggle, feeling

        but there was nothing else. There was the same booth while you were so carried away by feelings.
        1. dSK
          dSK 22 February 2018 22: 09
          +1
          "Currently, 29 countries are members of NATO. The military spending of all NATO members totals more than 70 percent of the over-head volume." (Wikipedia) + Japan.
          The biggestoh in world history anti-russian union. Neither Napoleon nor Hitler had such an advantage. These are facts, not advertising. It’s not enough to win the battle, you have to win war.
          1. yehat
            yehat 26 February 2018 11: 43
            0
            This is a very difficult question. partly the beginning of the creation of the current anti-Russian coalition provoked the activities of Trotsky and his Comintern, and it took a long time to solve it.
            The USSR built relative security from such a huge price.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 24 February 2018 10: 06
      0
      In Russia, the president is the one who has power. There is nothing to tear paper on "programs". Somehow, even for the implementation of the May "decrees" of 2012 no one has reported and is not going to do this. So, there is someone to take an example from.winked
    6. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 25 February 2018 19: 03
      -1
      The main thing is not the program - promises, but the long-term politics and potential of the party. Here P. Grudinin without competitors. S. Baburin will take away a few percent of the votes of the patriots from P. Grudinin, this is similar to the liberals' bid against P. Grudinin, because the return of the loot will certainly begin under P. Grudinin. If S. Baburin does not withdraw his candidacy in favor of P. Grudinin, then he will fully prove his two-facedness and support to the liberals ... V. Putin worked for 18 years, did everything he could, it's time to put fresh patriotic forces on the "galley" ...
  2. zyzx
    zyzx 22 February 2018 07: 09
    +15
    It is necessary to introduce confiscation of property and execution for theft in a particularly large one.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 22 February 2018 13: 31
      +7
      I agree !!!!! .... therefore I will vote for Grudinin ...
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 24 February 2018 10: 10
      0
      Rather, they will introduce a shooting for the confiscation of the "honestly" stolen. lol
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 22 February 2018 07: 15
    +4
    The real program is to take money from someone (reduce it), and give it to someone .... About the "pick up" - none of the candidates wants to reduce the "electoral base".
    1. marline
      marline 22 February 2018 09: 52
      +3
      Quote: samarin1969
      The real program is to take money from someone (cut), and give it to someone ....

      Robin Hood is a shooter from Sherwood Forest.
      In general, we also have our own classic:
      Filipp Filippovich leaned back in the Gothic back and laughed so that a gold picket flashed in his mouth. Bormental only turned his head.
      “You would read something,” he suggested, “otherwise, you know ...
      “Oh, and so I read, I read ...” Sharikov answered, and suddenly he quickly and predatoryly poured himself half a glass of vodka.
      “Zina,” Philipp Filippovich cried anxiously, “clean up, baby, you no longer need vodka.” What are you reading?
      Suddenly a picture flickered in his head: an uninhabited island, a palm tree, a man in animal skin and a cap. “It will be necessary Robinson” ...
      “This ... like her ... Engels' correspondence with these m ... Like him - the devil - with Kautsky.”
      Bormental halted the fork with a piece of white meat halfway, and Philipp Philippovich spilled wine. Sharikov at that time contrived and swallowed vodka.
      Filipp Filippovich put his elbows on the table, looked at Sharikov and asked:
      “Let me know what you can say about what you read.”
      Sharikov shrugged.
      - Yes, I do not agree.
      -With whom? With Engels or with Kautsky?
      “With both,” answered Sharikov.
      “That's great, I swear to God.” “To everyone who says that the other ...” And what could you offer?
      “What is there to offer? .. And they write, they write ... Congress, some Germans ... My head is swelling.” Take everything, and divide ...
      “So I thought,” exclaimed Filipp Filippovich, slapping his palm on the tablecloth, “I thought so.”
  4. BecmepH
    BecmepH 22 February 2018 07: 19
    +3
    Maybe not the topic, but ...
    If the photos to the articles are posted by the site administration, then do they understand their preferences. This candidate is both central and larger ...
    1. Loess
      Loess 22 February 2018 08: 51
      +3
      And at first I didn’t pay attention ... Although I don’t think that the administration here is “at work”, it’s more likely the personal preferences of the author of the article.
    2. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 09: 03
      +12
      BecmepH Today, 07:19 AM New
      Maybe not the topic, but ...
      If the photos to the articles are posted by the site administration, then do they understand their preferences. This candidate is both central and larger ...
      Did you just notice that? The site has recently been dedicated specifically to Mr. Grudinin. Have you seen at least one article dedicated not to him, but to another candidate? I somehow didn’t come across anything, but about Grudinin every day, then an article. If not directly touching it, then this is how you noticed indirectly. Such veiled advertising. And how many ardent Zagrudin residents appeared on the site, and the time of their appearance the last couple of months. And note that they do not defend anyone so vehemently and do not campaign for anyone else.

      For me, that’s how they only make this Grudinin worse, no one will make him the best anti-PR. However, he himself is one continuous walking anti-PR of himself. And the more they appear, the more I will be convinced of the correctness of my choice.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 22 February 2018 09: 24
        +5
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        For me, that’s how they only make this Grudinin worse, no one will make him the best anti-PR. However, he himself is one continuous walking anti-PR of himself. And the more they appear, the more I will be convinced of the correctness of my choice.

        About PR, that's for sure. But, this life doesn’t suit me either.
        And they did not give us a choice. I don’t know whom to choose, I don’t want.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 09: 29
          +7
          I agree, there is no choice from the word at all. However, when did we have this choice?
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 22 February 2018 10: 33
            +7
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            I agree, there is no choice from the word at all. However, when did we have this choice?

            That idiots may have a choice, smart ones have no choice! They always know exactly what is needed.
            That is why the "Western democracy" in Russia will never take root, well, except perhaps in the form of a circus.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 10: 40
              +8
              SPACE Today, 10:33 ↑
              That idiots may have a choice, smart ones have no choice! They always know exactly what is needed.
              That is why the "Western democracy" in Russia will never take root, well, except perhaps in the form of a circus.
              I agree too. Do not decrease, do not add! hi
              In general, "democracy" is a clumsy cranberry, for those who are happy to cheat.
              1. free
                free 22 February 2018 12: 59
                +4
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                SPACE Today, 10:33 ↑
                That idiots may have a choice, smart ones have no choice! They always know exactly what is needed.
                That is why the "Western democracy" in Russia will never take root, well, except perhaps in the form of a circus.
                I agree too. Do not decrease, do not add! hi
                In general, "democracy" is a clumsy cranberry, for those who are happy to cheat.

                So what are you grabbing cranberries with two hands?
                1. SPACE
                  SPACE 22 February 2018 13: 46
                  +2
                  Quote: free
                  So what are you grabbing cranberries with two hands?

                  Out of pity, we play with the West in their democracy “try to plant”, otherwise the Empire makes them sick.
                  1. TOR1864
                    TOR1864 22 February 2018 14: 01
                    0
                    Quote: SPACE
                    and then from the words of the Empire their trouble.

                    Not only them, but all thinking people. 21 century in the yard.
                    1. SPACE
                      SPACE 22 February 2018 15: 11
                      +2
                      Quote: TOR1864
                      Not only them, but all thinking people. 21 century in the yard.

                      You please explain this to the Americans, otherwise these savages imagined themselves rulers of the world.
                      And to live with wolves howl like a wolf.
          2. TOR1864
            TOR1864 22 February 2018 14: 01
            0
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            I agree, there is no choice from the word at all. However, when did we have this choice?

            Than rich-nefig start !!!
      2. Loess
        Loess 22 February 2018 11: 29
        +6
        Quote: Varyag_0711
        And note that they do not defend anyone so vehemently and do not campaign for anyone else.

        They do not protect him, because there are simply no arguments for his defense. Any type of uncomfortable question should be prefabricated, but this one is even worse, but this one has such and such subordinates and in general this is not all true. Explanatory argument in favor of Grudinin, they have zero. The main task is to create an opinion about what is needed necessarily[b] [/ b] change power, and here against the background of Sobchak and Zhirinovsky, Grudinin has a chance. But only if they succeed in instilling the idea of ​​the need for a change of power.
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 22 February 2018 11: 58
          +10
          Less Today, 11:29 ↑
          But only if they succeed in instilling the idea of ​​the need for a change of power.
          Somewhere I already heard it ... recourse And I remembered ... "Assad must leave!" laughing
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 22 February 2018 13: 12
            +7
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            "Assad must leave!"

            And also "Pandu Get"
            If instead of a head is a pan, this is the diagnosis.
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 22 February 2018 12: 27
          +7
          Quote: Less
          it is imperative [b] [/ b] to change the government, and here, against the background of Sobchak and Zhirinovsky, Grudinin has a chance. But only if they succeed in instilling the idea of ​​the need for a change of power.

          This is the main goal of compradors and Western curators ... it was the same in 2012. when the stake was placed on a white-tape liberal fascist project like in Ukraine. It didn’t work. Now the same thing. but with a hint of a patriotic Maidan with the same slogans for all good versus all bad things and for the same patterns,
    3. Volodin
      22 February 2018 12: 01
      +5
      Quote: BecmepH
      If the photos to the articles are posted by the site administration, then do they understand their preferences. This candidate is both central and larger ...

      By golly, funny to read. Do not look for a black cat in a black room, especially if it is not there. Photo inserted so that seven pieces slapped into a single rectangle. That's the whole conspiracy. Believe it or not, but it is. And then, according to your "quantum" logic, it turns out that the center is somewhere below ... Once again: they laugh it, honestly.

      If it calms you, so be it:


      Or so:
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 22 February 2018 12: 44
        0
        Quote: Volodin
        Do not look for a black cat in a black room, especially if it is not there

        I'm not looking. I do not blame anyone for his choice. Just in a dialogue I express my opinion without claims to the truth. And, I believe you. I am always happy to read your articles. Moreover, often, we look at events from the same angle. It just caught my eye, for some reason.
        And then, according to your "quantum" logic, it turns out that the center is somewhere below ..

        And yet, the center is not only between the bottom and top, but also between the left and right)))
        1. Volodin
          22 February 2018 12: 47
          +5
          Honestly, I didn’t even pay attention when I made this collage-type, who was shirsh, who was taller, and who was at the center. smile

          For the interest in the materials - thanks!
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 22 February 2018 12: 55
            +3
            Quote: Volodin
            Honestly, I didn’t even pay attention when I made this collage-type, who was shirsh, who was taller, and who was at the center. smile

            For the interest in the materials - thanks!

            Write more. I like to read comments on topics that you have raised.
          2. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 22 February 2018 17: 23
            +1
            Quote: Volodin
            For the interest in the materials - thanks!


            Alex, thank you so much.
            Your materials are really interesting. A good combination of information, analytics, humor and irony. And I must emphasize that you are not directly imposing your opinion. There is information, but no aggression. By the way, many forum users on our site can learn this.
            Well, on the topic of the article, I want to say that it is fundamentally wrong to analyze only presidential candidates exclusively. The president of any country never acts without looking back at his team with which he came to power. So for an objective analysis, it is not enough to consider only candidate programs. Sometimes the names of the “team members” speak much more.
            This article on this topic is far from the last. And, I think, an analysis of the composition of the teams of presidential candidates will be much more interesting than publications on promises and programs.
  5. vlad007
    vlad007 22 February 2018 07: 22
    +7
    The presidential candidate is obliged to inform not only the program, but also the composition of the future government - who is the Prime Minister, who is the Minister of Finance, Defense, Economic Development, etc.
    1. TOR1864
      TOR1864 22 February 2018 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: vlad007
      The presidential candidate is obliged to inform not only the program, but also the composition of the future government - who is the Prime Minister, who is the Minister of Finance, Defense, Economic Development, etc.

      Provide a link to this document .. the first time I hear about this.
  6. Gardamir
    Gardamir 22 February 2018 07: 47
    +20
    But honestly, how many people in the country would have read all candidate programs completely? We vote because we liked the candidate. Yeltsin won in 1996 as a dancer voted. Putin came and said it would be wet in the outhouses, though he was mistaken a little, it was wet around the sort, and Chechnya was in gold. Why did they vote for Medvedev? Well, all the same, Putin.
    Who to vote for? Again, everything depends on people; what you measure your life with will be. Another thing is that many have forgotten how to think.
  7. BRONEVIK
    BRONEVIK 22 February 2018 09: 09
    +16
    Not all jacks become kings)
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 22 February 2018 09: 12
    +7
    Citizens! Enough Anchurians vegetate on the outskirts of the continent! Stop fooling people with promises! ... Soon every resident of Anchuria will have his own gramophone. Long live free Anchuria! ... That’s the whole point of all candidate programs ..
  9. shuravi
    shuravi 22 February 2018 09: 15
    +3
    One thing is clear that real candidates are not allowed to compete with Putin.
    Looks at the top realized that his rating fell. First of all, the so-called patriotic electorate. Too much talking and too little to do.
    even Zyuganov, who never claimed this chair, the pelvis was removed and replaced by a Clown. To avoid.
    1. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper 22 February 2018 11: 26
      +4
      Real candidates? Are you seriously? Name at least one.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 22 February 2018 14: 03
        +2
        Bulk 20! 8.
        lol
        1. sxfRipper
          sxfRipper 22 February 2018 15: 16
          +4
          I did not ask for a list of clowns. I already know him.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 22 February 2018 12: 32
      +5
      Quote: shuravi
      One thing is clear that real candidates are not allowed to compete with Putin.

      Please announce the whole list ... Get out in 2012. for Ivashov’s grandfather drowned, and a little earlier for Rogozin if we talk about the patriotic electorate. And there are also sects of Fedorov, Kurginyan, fans of Starikov. So which of them? Or maybe you already know the Savior. like John the Theologian? So who is he .. enlighten
      1. TOR1864
        TOR1864 22 February 2018 13: 58
        +3
        Quote: Ascetic
        Please announce the entire list.

        Nobody will announce anything, the trolls throw a fishing rod and watch how they are arguing about obvious things .. and he will throw firewood. The technology is old.
      2. shuravi
        shuravi 25 February 2018 00: 36
        +1
        Quote: Ascetic
        Quote: shuravi
        One thing is clear that real candidates are not allowed to compete with Putin.

        Please announce the whole list ... Get out in 2012. for Ivashov’s grandfather drowned, and a little earlier for Rogozin if we talk about the patriotic electorate. And there are also sects of Fedorov, Kurginyan, fans of Starikov. So which of them? Or maybe you already know the Savior. like John the Theologian? So who is he .. enlighten


        In these circumstances, even Uncle “Sue” has a chance to gain an indecently large number of votes. Because he was replaced by a clown.
        Of course, I understand that for the sect "ass licking the current king", there is no and cannot be an alternative.
        Nevertheless, I will try to explain, real candidates are those who, at least, can become the leader of the protest vote.
        I understand that the sectarians I mentioned are hard to believe, but in Russia there are enough citizens who are far from liberal in nature and who were already sickened by this talking room and doing nothing.
  10. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 22 February 2018 09: 17
    +3
    Sorry for the terrible "babayagizm" in relation to the candidates, but to go with slogan programs or without programs altogether instead of providing voters with a real plan of action in case they are elected president will clearly not add a percentage of those who get up from the oven and go to the polls.

    What do you want?
    Presidential candidates, along with voters, all are well aware that it is impossible to change anything in the current system without a “program of action” without a fundamental change in the system itself, which implies shocks. But these "shocks" are not for us. We have the main stability of the current system of "relations" between the authorities and the population. That the oligarchs, that the poor, all want peace and stability, while miraculously changing everything for the better for each of them in a common rotten system, while at the same time ready to bite an opponent standing next to it.
    And for this, apart from populism or modest silence, no one offers anything. Together we will wait for a miracle in our "stability"! Hallelujah!)
  11. Alex66
    Alex66 22 February 2018 09: 22
    +5
    And who the hell are programs for them, then to make excuses for not fulfilling them? And no matter how cool everything was on the points with the dates of execution, and if you didn’t fulfill the reprimand for the first case, then there’s not full service compliance, well, dismissal for the third program failure. But the problem is that officials do not like to answer, this is our misfortune, their irresponsibility.
  12. Petr petrov
    Petr petrov 22 February 2018 09: 28
    +15
    Here, some people seem to be with the Internet on you, but it seems that they won’t get out of the zombies !!!!
    They say that Putin showed something in practice ... laughter and only !!!!
    There were 8 billionaires in the fight, but it became several times more !!!!
    But what a coincidence, most of the billionaires are friends of the impoverished presidents !!!!!!!!
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 22 February 2018 10: 27
      +7
      Quote: Petr petrov
      But what a coincidence, most of the billionaires are friends of the impoverished presidents !!!!!!

      "Do not have 100 rubles, but have 100 friends";)
  13. high
    high 22 February 2018 10: 28
    +1
    Sobchak isolated: Against all, and returns the Crimea to Ukraine.[i] [/ i]
    Lies in Ukraine Sobchak scolded that she was not going to return Crimea to Ukraine.
    In the USA, where she was recently, she was also criticized regarding Crimea.
    Her program: to hold a referendum with the participation of the population of Ukraine, Russia, Crimea, to which she objected: the population of Russia is 3 times more than in Ukraine ....
    Alas, in the days of the Internet you can’t lie ... everything is checked ...
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 22 February 2018 11: 59
      0
      And here is Russia? Are you not going to take into account the opinion of Crimea? If they vote for Ukraine there, why should she be afraid of a referendum?
  14. prior
    prior 22 February 2018 10: 47
    +8
    Only one program is relevant for Russia - the Program on the change of order in the country, from capitalism to socialism, with corresponding changes in all areas: in power, in the right of ownership, in education, in medicine, and so on according to the list. But which of the presidential candidates can offer such a thing is political suicide. But the light makeup of the existing reality, which essentially does not change anything, is as much as you like.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 22 February 2018 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: prior
      The program on the change of order in the country, from capitalism to socialism

      Your socialism has led the country into a dead end and with its subsequent collapse, there is not a single country in the world with a socialist system, with the exception of the bosak countries of the DPRK and Cuba, in Cuba the truth is increasingly moving away from the ideas of socialism, but in the DPRK there is a terry monarchy with communist sauce.
      1. APIS
        APIS 22 February 2018 12: 08
        +2
        Well, yes, China is simply the flagship of capitalism.
        1. TOR1864
          TOR1864 22 February 2018 13: 56
          +1
          Quote: APIS
          Well, yes, China is simply the flagship of capitalism.

          China is certainly a capitalist country. What in their economy with millions of private companies seemed socialist to you? Planned Economy??? You compare the USSR 60-70s and China today ... This is SKY and EARTH ... do not you see it yourself?
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 22 February 2018 14: 02
          +3
          About China there was no question. In general, China has a mixed economy.
      2. free
        free 22 February 2018 22: 12
        +4
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: prior
        The program on the change of order in the country, from capitalism to socialism

        Your socialism has led the country into a dead end and with its subsequent collapse, there is not a single country in the world with a socialist system, with the exception of the bosak countries of the DPRK and Cuba, in Cuba the truth is increasingly moving away from the ideas of socialism, but in the DPRK there is a terry monarchy with communist sauce.

        Bullshit! Such stupidity, even to refute laziness!
      3. Icarus
        Icarus 23 February 2018 02: 04
        +6
        RUSS. Your socialism has led the country into a dead end and its subsequent collapse
        It was not socialism that led to the collapse of the country, but the treacherous elite in the Communist Party of the USSR and in the republics, which penetrated power because of the lack of a mechanism for selecting the best in power, as well as in the absence of accountability and accountability of the supreme power. As a result, the worst or mediocre people came to leadership in the country (after Stalin). This arrangement of state power has nothing to do with the ideas of socialism: justice and social equality on the basis of a planned economy.
    2. Vladimir Vasilich
      Vladimir Vasilich 22 February 2018 16: 36
      0
      Read https://kprf.ru/activity/elections/171941.html
  15. thinker
    thinker 22 February 2018 11: 18
    0
    Baburin ... And what about Baburin?

    "... and what about Titov?" And so three times in a row! I have not seen more stupidity! yes
  16. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 22 February 2018 11: 31
    +3
    As always, the candidates are getting dark and anxious as it is in the distance. For 27 years of democracy, the party system has not been created in the country, where the real right is the left, where are the ideas, manifestos of Che Guevara? The Communist Party looked so dignified and split two times on you so that your real face came up? The Union of Industrialists of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs is poorly represented in the Duma. There are public classes and parties are blurred, not understood. Society is not ripe or what?
  17. Loess
    Loess 22 February 2018 11: 36
    +2
    Funny ... There was a normal, in principle, sustained in a neutral style, article with a slight bias in favor of one of the applicants. And the discussion was at first quite neutral, mainly about the features of the process. But supporters of the same applicant came and began to teach everyone to "love the motherland", turning a sluggish dispute into a verbal battle ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 February 2018 14: 01
      +9
      Everything is simple here, are you for the state farm named after Lenin? Or are you for Usmanov’s yacht, Medvedev’s watch and Peskov’s daughter? wink
      1. sxfRipper
        sxfRipper 22 February 2018 15: 21
        +2
        Not a state farm named after Lenin, but CJSC "State farm named after Lenin". And Usmanov, by the way, besides a yacht, invests a lot of money in Russian rhythmic gymnastics. So, getting away from patriotic ecstasy after the next victory of the girls of Wiener-Usmanova, do not forget about it. I mean, Usmanov, on a par with Peskov and Medvedev - at least - is incorrect.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 22 February 2018 15: 38
          +8
          Quote: sxfRipper
          invests a lot of money in rhythmic gymnastics in Russia.
          Something tells me that he invested much more in a yacht than in gymnastics. tongue
          1. sxfRipper
            sxfRipper 22 February 2018 17: 57
            +1
            Do not distort, I’m not talking about the price of his yacht, but about the fact that he still benefits Russia.
            1. free
              free 22 February 2018 22: 14
              +5
              Quote: sxfRipper
              Do not distort, I’m not talking about the price of his yacht, but about the fact that he still benefits Russia.

              How much does it have?
        2. rruvim
          rruvim 22 February 2018 19: 46
          +5
          Everyone knows why Wiener-Usmonov invests in girls gymnasts. And the money invested then pays off both by influence and money. And the most “intelligent” girls become deputies of the State Duma. In the 19th century, the Elite went to Ballet, now to rhythmic gymnastics. Nothing is "new under the sun" ...
          1. sxfRipper
            sxfRipper 22 February 2018 19: 52
            0
            Once again - I’m not talking about this, but about comparing Usmanov with Peskov and Medvedev. If there is nothing to say about this (except for flooding), then there is nothing to talk about. I didn’t hire trolls to feed.
            1. Z_G_R
              Z_G_R 23 February 2018 00: 16
              +3
              It would be better if the state invested in sports than someone in someone specifically. And then these investments are momentary and depend on a whim.
              1. sxfRipper
                sxfRipper 23 February 2018 13: 10
                0
                With a whim - I can agree to some extent And now - the question: What is spent more efficiently - Usmanov’s money allocated directly to 10 sports centers by himself, or the same money from his taxes allocated by local officials at his own discretion?
                1. Z_G_R
                  Z_G_R 23 February 2018 13: 46
                  +2
                  That's right .. this is a question of the system) The current system is inefficient and this is obvious. And the further the more. It is time for a change. Therefore, I’ll go to vote for Grudinin, I trust the people in his team.
                  1. sxfRipper
                    sxfRipper 23 February 2018 14: 51
                    0
                    You will talk with people who feed his CJSC. Or too lazy to tear your ass off the couch?
  18. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 22 February 2018 11: 41
    +1
    What programs? Everything is fine with them and it is going as planned. Even to promise that is laziness.
  19. yehat
    yehat 22 February 2018 11: 47
    +3
    A referendum in Alaska will also be? ..

    recently, about a year ago, a survey was conducted in Alaska - most of them there believe that Alaska as part of the Russian Federation has more prospects than in the United States, that US policy is fatal to the territory.
    something similar is happening in Texas and several other states, and the influence of the Russian Federation in this is equal to zero.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 23 February 2018 05: 07
      +3
      Nonsense. Compare the infrastructure and standard of living in Anchorage and for comparison, any city in the Russian Far East. What is called, heaven and earth.
      Quote: yehat
      something similar is happening in Texas and several other states, and the influence of the Russian Federation in this is equal to zero.
      Texas simply does not want to pay taxes to Washington, believing that with its industry and oil deposits it will quickly become something like Kuwait, swimming in luxury. The Russian Federation is not in business.
  20. vanavatny
    vanavatny 22 February 2018 11: 49
    +2
    what the hell is the election, what the hell is the program, believe and pray ... although you can go to the station and throw a piece of paper in the trash (or the ballot box, as it’s right) for some boerboelis or some registered meat, a woman-horse, for example ...
    1. vanavatny
      vanavatny 22 February 2018 11: 52
      +1
      baburin, not burbulis, but what a difference in the ear, just for the one to be elected, I do not want to ...
    2. ML-334
      ML-334 22 February 2018 12: 05
      +3
      As if a centaur did not become after a thrown piece of paper for a woman-horse, for example.
  21. efendia
    efendia 22 February 2018 12: 05
    +7
    Quote: Cube123
    for 18 years he has shown that he can and does

    Well, if the growth of the income of billionaires and their number with total impoverishment of the population (and this is just a particle) is considered an achievement, then yes, there are a lot of such achievements. Although we must give him his due - for the first time he still did something good for people, and then they started ..., some achievements.
    1. Vlad Petrov
      Vlad Petrov 22 February 2018 12: 43
      0
      A strong independent state, as Putin stated in his message. This means that we don’t have to make a claim to us with drooling, and if we have something, then we have something to answer. Good politics, right?
      1. efendia
        efendia 22 February 2018 18: 59
        +7
        What is the strength? In the poverty of the population and the lawlessness of the oligarchs, who are dragging everything acquired through overwork to the mound? Statistics twist as they want. While there was no talk about raising the retirement age, statistics said one thing, but as they spoke about raising the retirement age, immediately the residents of Russia became long-livers. And so wherever you spit data manipulation everywhere. Yes, even take the May decrees - formally implemented, but in reality they only began to pay less. What can I say, on TV they only tell how well, but in real life everything is exactly the opposite. Every day it’s getting worse.
        And is this a strong state ???? When they don’t even want to recognize the problems, let alone solve these problems.
  22. What a
    What a 22 February 2018 12: 32
    +8
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    P. Grudinin state organizations for state money blacken
    Yeah, it was precisely these "state organizations" that opened up "fake" accounts all over the world to them, they maliciously bought property abroad and secretly executed it either for him or for his children, whom the very mysterious "state organizations" made super-businessmen and threw them in addition a residence permit in another country.
    Tell me, are they not following you? Is no one hiding in the corner? And you know, these "state organizations", they are ...

    But Putin’s friends mean you can, I don’t mind becoming a violinist, with a billion in my pocket, in Russia, violinists have a salary like oligarchs.
  23. TOR1864
    TOR1864 22 February 2018 13: 41
    +1
    What does the program have to do with it, Putin is our president and that’s it! They do not seek good from good ... it will only get worse!
    1. free
      free 22 February 2018 13: 54
      +8
      Quote: TOR1864
      What does the program have to do with it, Putin is our president and that’s it! They do not seek good from good ... it will only get worse!

      Aha! Putin is your president, for sure! Yours but not ours!
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 February 2018 13: 58
      +9
      Quote: TOR1864
      Putin is our president
      Whose is yours specifically? Is your surname accidentally not Michelson? lol
  24. TOR1864
    TOR1864 22 February 2018 13: 53
    0
    Although, of course, everyone understands that you really need to vote for Suraikin. He offers one thing:
    "Ten Stalinist attacks on capitalism and American imperialism."
  25. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 22 February 2018 14: 03
    +3
    Varyag_0711,
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    I fundamentally disagree, you confuse cause and effect. And Libya has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    Libya has nothing to do with it? belay And the fact that the whole “Arab” spring swept from Libya the entire Middle East, and Libya fell only due to the lack of modern air defense - is news for you?
    1. yehat
      yehat 22 February 2018 14: 21
      +1
      Libya did not fall due to air defense. Gaddafi was too gullible.
      he simply could not believe that he would be dealt with.
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        1. yehat
          yehat 22 February 2018 16: 18
          +2
          no, Gaddafi lobbied for a project to introduce a reserve dinar (it seems) in the Middle East in order to supplant the dollar and was close to its implementation
          And what a coincidence - Chavez in Venezuela also bent when a similar project began to drag.
          And the Russian Federation again became an evil empire when it was thought to do its reserve currency within the framework of the CU.
          Now China Yuan is making a reserve - here, somehow, the CIA did not grow together.
          History repeats itself - no matter how clever you are, pissing against the wind is not enough joy.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 22 February 2018 17: 21
        +6
        Quote: yehat
        Gaddafi was too gullible.

        And this is the same. But if his country had modern air defense, no one would have bombarded his troops so brazenly.
        1. yehat
          yehat 24 February 2018 21: 39
          0
          and what helped the air defense alliance in the 80s?
          The Warsaw Pact was destroyed, the most powerful group in Germany was destroyed, CMEA was destroyed, separatism across all borders of the RSFSR. Did the air defense help?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 25 February 2018 13: 55
            0
            Quote: yehat
            Warsaw Pact destroyed

            Well you mixed flies and cutlets! laughing Nobody arranged no-fly zones for the Warsaw Pact, and did not cover separatists from the air from outside! And in Libya it was.
  26. Boris25
    Boris25 22 February 2018 15: 35
    +5
    This is historically the case in our country, people always vote for a “person” here, not a program. Putin never had a program, but that never stopped him from winning the election. Vova, go away, enough already !!!!
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  27. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 22 February 2018 15: 45
    +4
    Your untruth, comrade author and commentators! GDP voiced its program: the development of education (why if young people with diplomas are behind the shelves?), The development of infrastructure, the development of medicine (why, if there is no healthy lifestyle propaganda and C, but epigonism is in fashion?), Cultural development (sponsor the Serebryannikovs, Raikins, Makarevichs Teachers, and then arrange a showdown where did the loot go?). But all this was already in the previous terms, and at the exit expensive equipment in boxes in the back rooms, because there were no trained specialists, or to whom it had fallen; science is barely enthusiastic; there are many different roads, the topic is eternal, but education was still marked by Kolya, who felt sorry for the “innocent” Fritz in WWII! T.S., here are your plans, but here are the results!
    1. Yaroslav T
      Yaroslav T 22 February 2018 16: 07
      +8
      Gee ... Compare with the 2000 program. and as they say, find at least two differences! "Old songs about the main thing" ... But what remains a fact - NONE of his programs were executed. Sad but true ...
  28. Yaroslav T
    Yaroslav T 22 February 2018 16: 06
    +8
    "The site of presidential candidate Vladimir Putin is working, but even on the site, the program of actions in the event of election is not found at all." WHY why is the program for him ?! For 18 years he faithfully served the oligarchy, 18 years milked the people - is it really possible to come up with something new here? And so it is clear to everyone that after March 18, "milk yield" from the people will increase sharply, the ruble will again collapse in 2 times, because the reserve fund from 01.01.18/2019/XNUMX. no longer, but in the budget of XNUMX. holes in a trillion rubles! WHERE will he take the dibs? Well, not at the neighbors in the Lake cooperative! "The raven will not peck out the crow" ...
  29. Yaroslav T
    Yaroslav T 22 February 2018 16: 18
    +5
    "And that sounds wonderful. That's just how to deal with oligarchs who stubbornly do not want to withdraw funds from offshore companies or to get on an innovative footing if there are opportunities to circumvent legislation, negotiating with those" with whom it is necessary. "
    Well, if Grudinin decides to turn to the experience of past leaders - then solving such a problem will take very little time - a couple of seconds, just twist the shutter! )))
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  31. Vladimir Vasilich
    Vladimir Vasilich 22 February 2018 16: 30
    0
    And you do not wisely crafty, but go and VOTE. And then the PROGRAM will become the LAW. Just be honest and NOT WISE.
    1. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper 22 February 2018 17: 58
      0
      In naive! EMNIP, Churchill said - They never lie so much as after fishing and before the election.
    2. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 22 February 2018 19: 51
      +2
      I remember they went and voted on the Yes-Yes-No-Yes algorithm many years ago. That's just what was proclaimed and what was done - different poles.
  32. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 22 February 2018 18: 58
    +4
    Volodin Aleksey-neschet. When ours entered the Crimea, they immediately sold 125 mln bonds of mattress covers. dollars, but, having received guarantees, bought them again. And who steered everyone - Vovochka. For many years, the Communist Party has not had a majority in the Duma. And how do they implement the program? In general, you lick the fifth point of power well ... Keep up the good work .. drinks
    1. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper 22 February 2018 19: 54
      +3
      The Communist Party of the Russian Federation for many years does not have a majority in the Duma
      Once they have spilled the country. The second time is not necessary.
  33. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 22 February 2018 19: 49
    +2
    Thank you, I laughed)))) the funny thing is that you can twist all the promises of all applicants for all the "post-Soviet" years and it turns out that everything is always "against" and not "for"
  34. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 22 February 2018 20: 13
    0
    remove one candidate and you can come to the polling station with a cube. and there are 7 of them and this option does not work
  35. free
    free 22 February 2018 20: 39
    +3
    ProkletyiPirat,
    Dumb, vile lies!
  36. Ruslan Gainutdinov
    Ruslan Gainutdinov 23 February 2018 00: 13
    +1
    In the election of President Putin, the winner is known in advance. All other candidates are needed in order to maximize the legitimacy of his victory. On Puchkov’s channel, this is a good issue with Yulin recently released
  37. Icarus
    Icarus 23 February 2018 01: 42
    +2
    ProkletyiPirat,
    Well, why the heck is this necessary if the same result (i.e. filling the budget of the Russian Federation) can be achieved through quotas, licenses, patents and taxes?
    Quotas and licenses, for information, do not fill the budget, and patents and taxes do not stop the withdrawal of capital from Russia to offshore, this can only be stopped by nationalization.
  38. Cube123
    Cube123 23 February 2018 07: 28
    +3
    Quote: Greenwood
    Quote: Cube123
    Reply Qiti
    I am afraid, under Stalin, a shot like Putin would hardly have made its way somewhere. Especially after leaving the KGB at the height of perestroika.

    I think that specifically you and Stalin, these are values ​​of a completely different scale. Therefore, when you think for it, you are most likely mistaken.
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    1. Cube123
      Cube123 23 February 2018 08: 41
      +3
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      I read the "comments" ..... it is necessary as the "patriotic" resemble the picture below ...

      It’s not for you to live in our country, therefore your opinion corresponds to your name “What is the Difference”. And it has the same value. wassat
  40. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 23 February 2018 07: 50
    +3
    Alexei! So all candidates have populist programs! In this cluster of clowns who have really broken away from reality, I apologize for the tautology, even the look on anyone does not linger. The entire opposition is a sham. Putin could become a new leader among the people but chose the side of the oligarchs.
  41. tamara
    tamara 23 February 2018 12: 04
    +5
    ProkletyiPirat,
    Now the current government takes taxes from the poor, but fights with pensioners. And where to get a candidate who will make the “conscientious" deputies introduce fair taxes for the population, at least the same progressive tax?
    1. Z_G_R
      Z_G_R 23 February 2018 13: 50
      +2
      This is only possible with a change in the existing system. The answer is obvious) Any president while maintaining the current system will not change anything.
  42. rruvim
    rruvim 23 February 2018 16: 49
    +8
    [/ quote] I recall the affairs of Putin:
    1. The collapse and privatization of RAO UES-a multiple increase in electricity prices.
    2. Elimination of the WORLD.
    3. Camran and Lourdes
    4. Liquidation of 70 thousand enterprises.
    5. The collapse of housing and communal services prices have increased many times.
    6. The collapse of education and health.
    7. Monetization of benefits.
    8. Export abroad of a trillion dollars.
    9. Loss of a number of territories.
    10. Serdyukovschina.
    If someone wants to can continue.
    [Quote]
    1. The collapse of the domestic civil aircraft industry (instead of 6% in 2008, now only 3% of domestic aircraft in our civilian fleet);
    12. Replacing domestic machinery and machine tools with “screwdriver” assemblies, for example, the DMG-Mori assembly plant in Ulyanovsk;
    13. The complete collapse of the domestic cosmonautics, a catastrophic loss of positions on commercial launches;
    14. The complete collapse of civil shipbuilding. Single domestic vessels except the "shell" for 90% consist of imported components including engines and power plants;
    15. For 18 years of “rule” the issues of the domestic base of electronic components have not been resolved, especially in the military segment;
    16. Almost all strategic enterprises and corporations in their "private" package owned foreign owners;
    17. Among the "new" oligarchs appeared the personal friends of the Foreman: for example. Sechin and the Rotenberg brothers.

    18. For 18 years, the Moscow-St. Petersburg highway has not been built;
    19. Customs has become a fiscal authority, not a regulatory one. Export of finished products (except for raw materials) is extremely difficult. Especially for small and medium-sized businesses. There are no duties on export, therefore it is not interesting for the fiscal body "Customs". Just import of imported finished products brings through the customs authorities revenue to the State. Thus, this structure is extremely interested in the import of high-tech and household products than in the production of “it” in our country, and even more so in exports from our country. And this practice is encouraged by the Government;
    20. The issue of lending to industry at% of the Central Bank refinancing rate has not yet been resolved. And money is everything! With a declared 4% annual inflation, for some reason, the Central Bank gives loans to CB at 7.5%, and industrial KB at 12-15%. Either they are lying about inflation, or the Central Bank is a "private shop." For example: an ordinary enterprise in the military-industrial complex has a profitability of 2-3%, how to take a loan for development even by 10%? With the Khrunichev plant, such a "parsley" is happening. Conclusion: The foreman for 18 years has not solved the problem of financial regulation;
    21. And also personal: for five years I stood in line, as having many children on a piece of land for the Summer Cottage. But there is no land, because she is not around our city District. But I see that it is and is actively sold by all sorts of commercial "ephemeral". Those. for 18 years he did not restore order even in land management. But the Decree on the Earth helped even Lukich win the "Citizen".
    If anyone wants, you can continue.
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      1. rruvim
        rruvim 23 February 2018 17: 35
        +7
        23. Turning mass sports into professional;
        24. Replacing the construction of production facilities with sports arenas (with the funds spent on the Zenith Arena, a full cycle machine tool plant can be built);
        25. The introduction of the limit of budget places (previously they were all budget) for students of State Universities, and a complete ban on budget places at the prestigious faculties of Moscow State University, MGIMO, Moscow Higher School of Economics, etc. children of low-income proletarian families will not be able to study in them and get into the "elite";
        26. The striking scope of propaganda and agitation among youth through the media (state-controlled) goals of serving the motherland only through work in law enforcement agencies (police, prosecutors, TFR), in business related to services and entertainment, to any activity not related to technical and engineering, except for hacking;
        27. The full rampant historical lies in Massmedia, with the "timid" opposition of the Government.

        If anyone wants, you can continue.
        1. Yaroslav T_2
          Yaroslav T_2 23 February 2018 18: 00
          +3
          For 18 years of his reign, I sent my analytics of Putin’s “achievements” as an article - they hacked her, and they banned me. I had to log in under a different account. I suggest reading here:
          https://www.ok.ru/profile/37455521641/statuses/67
          945972007017

          Read, "enjoy" ...
          1. Monster_Fat
            Monster_Fat 23 February 2018 19: 28
            +1
            No, Yaroslav, too biased and torn. Well, for example, I can say that in terms of crime the United States should be put almost in first place and Russia in this indicator to the United States as "to one place with cancer" ....
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          2. rruvim
            rruvim 23 February 2018 19: 33
            +3
            The article is very entertaining. I am very grateful to you.
            And I absolutely agree with the "axiom":
            "It turns out that there is not only money, but so much that the whole country can produce without anything, but only by consuming, to live a WHOLE AND A half year!"
            There really is money, and there is a lot of it!
            They need to be spent not on "consumption" but on the modernization of the production part of the economy. But the Brigadier’s liberal government will never do that. The Communist Party and the NPS in the person of Grudinin - "20 steps" about this directly and write.
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  43. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 23 February 2018 22: 42
    +5
    Grudinin in batches deceived residents of the Lenin state farm.

    All courts refused to “left” offenders. do not repeat the nonsense of our controlled media.
  44. Provocator
    Provocator 23 February 2018 23: 40
    +4
    as I understand it, the first contender for the continuation of the reign and the previous May decrees did not comply and did not punish anyone for this
    everything is ruined
    economy in stagnation
    the first contender for the continuation of the reign can only exploit the theme of eternal enemies that prevent Russia from living
  45. cats
    cats 24 February 2018 11: 10
    +4
    In 96, he voted for the first and last time (for Zhirinovsky, because he did not conceal from all the clowns that he was a clown) Then a trustworthy person came, maybe he came in chaotically, at that moment when there was no difference who to change ebn for. But he ran in and dragged, under the howl of the public did not throw the shafts. Drags for eighteen years, maybe not as some would like, but there is a country, people are alive and not slaves. If this is not enough for someone, then it is enough for me and my children. Fat to grow is already my concern.
    We relaxed, wears grew, in the foie gras we began to understand, we were drawn to exotic ... How can we seriously take the sternum of Alexei Ksyushevich ..? Before talking about such things, take a train ride through our country, feel the scale, there will be a state farm.
    Two votes from me and my wife for GDP in this election .. tongue
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 24 February 2018 13: 35
      +2
      and get the wallet ready, it needs Putin and his team.
  46. turbris
    turbris 24 February 2018 11: 17
    0
    Here you read the comments and it becomes sad that the candidates' programs, that the comments of bloggers are mainly about the past, and if you need to do something, then restore it as it was. Is it really not clear that it makes no sense to write opuses about how it was in the USSR, and embellishing reality, it will never happen again, there is no turning back and it is time to forget about those achievements. We live in a completely different Russia and no matter what it is, it exists, it exists and it is impossible to isolate oneself from it within the framework of one apartment. Nothing will change from the comments on the topic “everything is lost” and “everything is bad,” the state will continue to exist and develop, despite the hatred of the elite, the oligarchs, the government and, in general, all those who live better than you. Yes, not all presidential decrees of May were completed on time, so what? Have all programs always been executed? Everything will be done, but at other times, do not hesitate. This is not the main thing, the main thing is who will run the state in the next 6 years or it will be the one who will continue to carry out the planned or it will be the one who will change everything under his election program, which ultimately will not be implemented anyway, here something like this.
    1. vik669
      vik669 24 February 2018 18: 36
      0
      Don’t yearn, everything has already been decided and nothing needs to be done - hope and wait all your life ahead (for some)!
  47. kotvov
    kotvov 24 February 2018 13: 34
    0
    Varyag_0711And you will never be able to change this my opinion about it with the permission of a person ??
    that is, you don’t even consider him a man? for you, you can see only a gref and a Chubais people. yes, their servant Putin forgot.
  48. Alexy
    Alexy 24 February 2018 15: 15
    0
    Quote: Vladimir 5
    Toward the curtain, compare the photo of the real V. Putin with the image in the collage at the beginning of the article

    And which of them is real? How do you determine?
    What are the criteria for the present and the fake?
    Probably 45-50 years old people are still real, but after 60, obviously, no longer.)))
    Super!
  49. vik669
    vik669 24 February 2018 18: 29
    0
    What about the program? Someone doubts what program will live after March 18, 2018?
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 24 February 2018 18: 45
      0
      The program of the chosen-appointed one will not be new, again some kind of "war" ...
  50. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 24 February 2018 19: 38
    +1
    Of all the morons, I still choose Comrade Putin. Here I am. Moreover, there is selfish interest. He will not give up Crimea, but for me it is important. hi