Ankara is surprised by the proposal of the Pentagon to send the YPG to fight the PKK

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Ankara was very surprised by the proposal of US Secretary of Defense James Mattis to direct the Syrian Kurds Self-Defense Forces (YPG) to fight the Kurdistan Workers ’Party banned in Turkey (PKK), said Turkish Presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalyn on Wednesday.

Ankara is surprised by the proposal of the Pentagon to send the YPG to fight the PKK




Earlier, Turkish Defense Minister Nurettin Janikli said that during his talks with Mattis from Washington, a proposal was made to separate the YPG from the PKK and force the YPG to fight against this party. Turkey considers the YPG a terrorist organization affiliated with the PKK. Turkey’s relations with the United States are experiencing a crisis due to the military support of the YPG provided by Washington.

This strange statement (of Mattis) was very surprised by all. Neither before this, nor after, nor at my meeting with (US National Security Assistant President Herbert) MacMaster, nor our President at the meeting with (US Secretary of State Rex) Tillerson this was not on the agenda. And we have not heard such a proposal from any of the US officials. Probably, they themselves understood that such a proposal sounds unconvincing, and they no longer insist on it.
- Kalyn told reporters in Ankara.
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  1. +4
    21 February 2018 17: 23
    Pentagon proposal to send YPG to fight PKK

    and the entire morphlot of striped to the coast of Belarus
    1. +6
      21 February 2018 17: 30
      They will be even more surprised when they throw both of them ...
      Quote: dm_Russia
      Pentagon proposal to send YPG to fight PKK

      and the entire morphlot of striped to the coast of Belarus
      1. +14
        21 February 2018 17: 35
        Quote: 210ox
        ... They will be even more surprised. When they throw both of them ...

        Do Kurds from YPG and PKK know that they are already enemies? laughing
        Mattis climbed into politics - Khan everyone wassat
        1. +19
          21 February 2018 17: 39
          It is strange that Turkey was surprised by the Pentagon’s proposal to send YPG to fight the PKK!
          Turkey does not notice the main cheaters in its negotiations with its United States in the BV!
          By the way, I already wrote in my comments about the intricacies of the formation of an "independent" Kudistan in BV. And this publication confirms these subtleties. Namely.

          According to Western plans, Kurdistan should be created in the territories of Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran. Moreover, Kurdistan will be obliged to the United States with all its education, and therefore it will be a strong lever of influence over the entire region to help the United States and Israel.
          Moreover, the Kurdish state will by definition be not only anti-Arab, but also anti-Turkish and anti-Iranian. In addition, having arisen at present on the ashes of Iraq and Syria, on the borders of Shiite Iran and Sunni Turkey, to which Kurdistan will necessarily make territorial claims in alliance with Israel and the USA, it will plunge the region for a long time into a new nightmare of wars, terror, instability .
          Those. from the point of view of regional logic, Kurdistan could be compared not so much with the Balkan Kosovo as with Israel in the first period of its existence.
          It should be borne in mind that the Kurds themselves are by no means united. And this means that for the Kurds themselves a scenario has been prepared for incessant internal strife, a struggle for power and resources, periodic outbreaks of civil war. All this has already happened and is taking place in Palestine, Lebanon during the civil wars.
          Like today's Ukraine born on the Maidan, tomorrow's Kurdistan born in the war will become the strongest source of instability and conflicts on the borders of several civilizations: Arab, Turkish, Iranian and at the same time in the heart of the Islamic world and the BV region, as it is seen and understood in the USA.

          It is Israel and the United States that will benefit from all this in BV.
          1. +6
            21 February 2018 18: 30
            Do Kurds from YPG and PKK know that they are already enemies?


            The United States never bothered with this, they planned it, so it will be so. laughing
          2. avt
            +3
            21 February 2018 20: 37
            Quote: Tatiana
            It is strange that Turkey was surprised by the Pentagon’s proposal to send YPG to fight the PKK!

            Turks just did not read Churchill
            Americans always find the only right solution. After trying everything
          3. +2
            21 February 2018 21: 35
            Quote: Tatiana
            According to Western plans, Kurdistan should be created in the territories of Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran.


            Take it easy. It will not be this.
        2. +9
          21 February 2018 17: 39
          Quote: Andrey K
          Mattis climbed into politics - Khan everyone

          It's not Khan Andrei, hi here the mad dog looks like a slate drip, it’s not from a great mind that such statements are made hi
          1. +9
            21 February 2018 17: 49
            Quote: 79807420129
            ... here the rabid little dog seems to have a slate drip, it’s not out of great mind that such statements are made ...

            Vlad hi
            Yes, from the "Dog" the diplomat and negotiator, like a ballerina from me lol
            Ran with a canister to the fire laughing
            Think about it, you have to manage - to teach the Turks how to push the Kurds with their foreheads wassat
            1. +4
              21 February 2018 18: 31
              They are "exceptional" teach all. hi
              1. +9
                21 February 2018 18: 52
                Quote: cniza
                ... They are "exceptional" teach everyone ...

                Victor hi
                Turks, probably, in ahhh .. what embarrassment, from advisers from over the sea-okiyanalaughing
            2. +5
              21 February 2018 18: 50
              Hello everyone my friends! hi
              Quote: Andrey K
              Yes, from the "Dog" the diplomat and negotiator, like a ballerina from me

              Here I thought:
              The conversation between Mattis and Trump:
              “Mr. Mattis, I will give you another 200 billion dollars for your delights.” And just try to plunder them !!!
              - Let's try, Mr. Trump, we will definitely try ...

              wassat
              1. +3
                21 February 2018 20: 36
                Greetings Pasha! hi , he will continue to maintain tension so that there is something to steal. lol
                1. +4
                  21 February 2018 20: 41
                  Victor, good evening! hi Kraduny always find how to provide for themselves. Even in prison. Yes
                  1. +4
                    21 February 2018 21: 24
                    So I say that our babies are compared with their volumes of theft.
                    1. +4
                      21 February 2018 21: 26
                      It is not surprising that bureaucrats of all stripes of their children are sent to the West to study. wink
                      1. +4
                        21 February 2018 21: 27
                        Here - here to learn theft. laughing
                2. +3
                  21 February 2018 21: 29
                  Quote: cniza
                  Here - here to learn theft. laughing

                  Well, it’s not for me to tell you about the experience in gang craft with all sorts of different arrogant Saxons. Yes
                  1. +3
                    21 February 2018 21: 36
                    Ours then include their reasoning, which is striped and never dreamed of.
            3. +7
              21 February 2018 19: 02
              Quote: Andrey K
              Think about it, you have to manage - to teach the Turks how to push the Kurds with their foreheads

              So the booby thinks that once the Ukrainians managed to rinse the brains and buy for cookies, so that they would bark and spoil us, then he dreams that the Kurds would be poisoned.
        3. 0
          21 February 2018 21: 33
          Quote: Andrey K
          Quote: 210ox
          ... They will be even more surprised. When they throw both of them ...

          Do Kurds from YPG and PKK know that they are already enemies? laughing
          Mattis climbed into politics - Khan everyone wassat


          And what? Normal idea))) let the Kurds kill the Kurds)))
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      3. +4
        21 February 2018 17: 52
        Meanwhile, non-flying weather over Afrin today. Turkish aviation is idle, but the Fyrtyn self-propelled guns bombed Kurdish positions in the morning. By the way, these self-propelled guns created on the basis of the Korean K9 have proven themselves perfectly. Today, the Turks occupied 2 more villages.
    2. +5
      21 February 2018 17: 30
      It’s about the same as sending alcoholics to the fight against alcoholism, the effect of Mattis’s proposal will be the same.
      1. +5
        21 February 2018 17: 36
        Ankara was very surprised by the proposal of US Secretary of Defense James Mattis to send Syrian Kurdish Self-Defense Forces (YPG) to fight the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) banned in Turkey

        Why be surprised: the United States wants the Syrian Kurds to unite with the Kurdistan Workers Party! This will absolutely happen if the Turks obey them. But the Turks are not so stupid as to wage such a divorce.
      2. +1
        21 February 2018 17: 46
        A giant of thought. Bees against honey !!!! Hurray !!! Even the Turks from the mattresses came out. And what, the psychiatrist is no longer hired by the psychiatrist for work? You should probably tell the Turks a poem about asphalt and skiing, probably without a translator understand the meaning.
      3. +3
        21 February 2018 18: 43
        Quote: Giant thought
        It’s about the same as sending alcoholics to the fight against alcoholism, the effect of Mattis’s proposal will be the same.

        You are probably wrong. There is no fiercer opponent of alcohol than former alcoholics. He lives in my staircase.
        But with the Kurds, it seems that the Americans want to scroll through the usual focus with a promise. Ukrainians managed to set against each other, but why is it not possible?
        1. +1
          21 February 2018 19: 26
          Quote: APASUS
          Ukrainians managed to set on each other

          because the YPG and the GAC are like the DPR and LPR. Imagine that Poroshenko would have suggested such nonsense.
          Now, if they had proposed Peshmerga against the PAC, this is a different conversation, at least something could be discussed.
          1. +2
            21 February 2018 19: 29
            Quote: Yeraz
            because the YPG and the GAC are like the DNI and the LC. Imagine that Poroshenko would suggest such nonsense

            If the Kurds were united in their desires and adhered to all one goal, then Kurdistan would have been built without the Americans. Kurds are not homogeneous and this is perhaps their main problem
    3. +2
      21 February 2018 17: 38
      The Kurdish topic will be a new occasion for stirring up a conflict in Syria, just the United States can not live together.
    4. +3
      21 February 2018 18: 09
      If Erdogan himself cannot deal with Kurds, then where are the Americans climbing? belay Kurds have not represented any unity except historical and ethnic for a long time. Here from Ukraine it is useless to sculpt a semblance of a state, and even more so. The language is similar, but there are thousands of tribes, and everyone considers himself the main one. lol
    5. Maz
      0
      21 February 2018 21: 03
      The main thing is that they will not throw us. Without us Erdogan kayuk. Here is the sultan and spins in all directions. To eat fish in northern Syria
  2. +11
    21 February 2018 17: 25
    Troll the Turks, the Turks in a trance, knock out a wedge with a wedge is not in their understanding.
    1. +5
      21 February 2018 17: 30
      the wedge is only one in the end, only a conversation about its two sides, therefore, the Turks are in a trance from this nonsense, because the one who proposed this is either a fool himself or considers such Turks))
  3. +5
    21 February 2018 17: 25
    Ankara is surprised by the proposal of the Pentagon to send the YPG to fight the PKK

    And I liked it.
    "This is so enchanting!" (Can not be)
    1. +2
      21 February 2018 17: 43
      And I liked it.

      me too .. although, despite the idiocy, it somehow reminded Pikul, "To each his own":
      "Napoleon ordered the German vassals from the Rhine Union to put one hundred thousand bayonets for the French army. (before the battle with the Austrians - approx. Mikado)
      - I’ll see how the Germans begin to plunge the Germans ... "
      and yet yes, he did it! request
      1. +1
        21 February 2018 17: 51
        So my post was about delirium. USA today, this is far from Napoleon’s France. Well, face ... feel
        1. +2
          21 February 2018 17: 57
          So my post was about delirium.

          Yes, it’s clear that their “psaki” seem to have penetrated all levels. drinks
  4. +2
    21 February 2018 17: 55
    YPG, of course, can "muddle" the PKK, or those of the first. The Kurds are stratified enormously, both on a clan-party basis and on a social basis. Only it will be "chickens to laugh" - nothing serious. It's just that the Yankees have one thing in their head: "divide and conquer!" Pitting the brothers against each other is their thing! We already know on the outskirts. Another thing is that Erdogan does not need either one or the other ...
  5. +1
    21 February 2018 17: 58
    Quote: zadorin1974
    A giant of thought. Bees against honey !!!! Hurray !!! Even the Turks from the mattresses came out. And what, the psychiatrist is no longer hired by the psychiatrist for work? You should probably tell the Turks a poem about asphalt and skiing, probably without a translator understand the meaning.

    He smiled ... But first, the Turks would have to explain what skiing is all about.
    1. +1
      22 February 2018 01: 14
      they know that for several years their ski resorts have been promoting, not without success.
  6. 0
    21 February 2018 18: 09
    laughing fool Transferring from American moron to normal: Kurds, kill yourself up the wall bully
  7. +4
    21 February 2018 18: 31
    It simply shows that even before that everything normal was well known and understandable: the states, especially the warriors, do not understand anything about how the Middle East works.
    Regrettably, the Kurds were simply framed and raped. And the Turks probably had a tantrum from such ignorance.
  8. 0
    21 February 2018 18: 42
    And Mattis didn’t specify on which side the United States will be ???
  9. +1
    21 February 2018 18: 44
    Well, only with the Americans did the Turks begin benevolent relations, so the Americans began to impose "benevolent" directions on the Turks. Imperial American politics is immediately visible. And as soon as the Turks are not needed by the Americans, they will abandon them.
  10. +4
    21 February 2018 19: 21
    The United States is not aware of real affairs, they are trying to customize reality under their perverted imagination. They are "exceptional", similar to the gods ... Ugh ... Degenerates
    1. +3
      21 February 2018 19: 50
      The idea seems very strange, to put it mildly!
      I didn’t understand anything, because everything seems impossible ... can we really know something?
      We will see ...... interesting all the same!
      1. +3
        21 February 2018 21: 28
        I can’t say that I’m specifically observing, but it is striking: the amers in the higher echelons of power are full of people who are engaged in analytics at the kindergarten level. They forgot how to keep competition with the USSR, and many learned to work after the collapse of the Union, that is, without a worthy opponent at all. About to see - we will definitely. Such a show of absurdity, where else can you see? There would be no blood around this absurdity, it would be possible to laugh heartily ...
        1. +3
          21 February 2018 21: 32
          PS: I do not remember that the Kurds were inclined to eat each other.
          1. +1
            21 February 2018 23: 58
            There is friction, of course, but how does it not come together against a common enemy?
  11. 0
    21 February 2018 19: 39
    This once again suggests that the Americans are just stupid, laughing Well, like Iran and Iraq, but what's the difference
  12. +3
    21 February 2018 20: 10
    ... from Washington, a proposal was made to separate the YPG from the PKK and force the YPG to fight against this party.
    Checkmate from Mattis, he puzzled the Turks. Was the Americans able to create Svidomo anti-Muscovites from Ukrainians, pit Sunnis and Shiites, to overthrow Gaddafi himself, etc. etc. for Gaddafi’s money?
  13. +1
    21 February 2018 20: 52
    Brother to brother is America's favorite trick.
  14. maw
    +1
    21 February 2018 21: 23
    What is it like? Put out a fire with gasoline?
  15. 0
    21 February 2018 23: 21
    direct YPG to fight the PKK

    Sounds like
    Bees Against Honey (expression)
  16. 0
    23 February 2018 12: 20
    And these people with dubious knowledge of geography, put themselves as the arbiters of the destinies of peoples.
    "Exceptional nation" ... damn it!
  17. 0
    25 February 2018 20: 11
    It would be nice for Mattis to decide - he is for the Bolsheviks, or for the Communists)))