Lavrov: Russia is waiting for the United States to clarify about unidentified helicopters in Afghanistan

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Russia is waiting for an explanation from the US and NATO about the flights of unidentified helicopters to the militants-controlled areas of Afghanistan, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

Lavrov: Russia is waiting for the United States to clarify about unidentified helicopters in Afghanistan




As before, we expect from our American colleagues an answer to the questions repeatedly posed to them, questions arising from public statements made by the heads of some Afghan provinces, that unidentified helicopters are likely to be helicopters to which NATO forces anyway, they relate, fly to the areas where militants are based, and no one can yet explain the reasons for these flights to us, and generally try to avoid answering these legitimate questions
- He said at a press conference after talks with his Pakistani counterpart Khavadzhey Muhammad Asif.

So we are very worried about what is happening in Afghanistan, we are very worried about the expansion of the influence of ISIL there and we have very serious suspicions about how the coalition that is now there, led by the United States, the NATO coalition, how it relates to this the threat that she takes to suppress it
- the Russian minister added.

He also recalled that this is happening after the adoption in the US of a new Afghan strategy, which presumes a bet on military-force methods of resolving the situation in Afghanistan.

Against whom force will be used, we are not yet very clear
- leads RIA News Lavrov's statement

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  1. +41
    20 February 2018 20: 08
    You need to shoot them down, and enough to "partner" with veiled enemies!
    1. +30
      20 February 2018 20: 15
      Take the American tactics in the 80s. They supplied the Stringers. Well, now we are Needles ..
      Quote: Herkulesich
      You need to shoot them down, and enough to "partner" with veiled enemies!
      1. +26
        20 February 2018 20: 22
        I understand that politicians should be quite polite and politic, but why include a fool?
        we are very seriously suspected of how the coalition that is now there, led by the United States, the NATO coalition, how it relates to this threat, what measures it is taking to suppress it

        - the Russian minister added.
        We all know, ask us!
        1. +16
          21 February 2018 04: 26
          Unidentified
          We must shoot down! - then there’s no need to run after anyone!
          They themselves will be warned in advance.
      2. Imh
        +21
        20 February 2018 20: 31
        You have already delivered the “Needles”, which they themselves bring down. Can you come up with other leverage? Well, for example, to ban the American top in Sochi from resting, or to ban congressmen and the US military from opening accounts with Sberbank and VTB, or, as a last resort, disconnect the United States from the Russian Rainbow payment system. There are many options.
        1. +65
          20 February 2018 20: 46
          Quote: IMH
          You have already delivered the “Needles”, which they themselves bring down. Can you come up with other leverage? Well, for example, to ban the American top in Sochi from resting, or to ban congressmen and the US military from opening accounts with Sberbank and VTB, or, as a last resort, disconnect the United States from the Russian Rainbow payment system. There are many options.

          There are famous Odessa couplets performed by famous performers. One of them: there is no bolder fighter in the world than a frightened Jew. This is not about you?
          1. Imh
            +14
            20 February 2018 21: 00
            Yes it's true.

            But why do you move away from the topic? I proposed economic sanctions against the US for their activities in Afghanistan. What did you suggest?
            1. +36
              20 February 2018 21: 18
              Quote: IMH
              sanctions against the US for their activities in Afghanistan.

              Our sanctions are stored in mines (and not only), God forbid that we have to apply them ... Well, if we apply, then nobody will be on the sidelines! No one!
              1. Imh
                +20
                20 February 2018 21: 22
                How can Russia try on these same mine sanctions if the money of the Russian elite and those responsible for applying such sanctions are located where these sanctions should be sent? Dilema ...
                1. +39
                  20 February 2018 21: 28
                  Then there will be no time for money! At least because they will not be ... Do you represent world governance in this case?
                  The true son of Israel, thinks about money. lol
                  1. Imh
                    +8
                    20 February 2018 21: 31
                    I think about money, and I, and you, and your leaders. You don’t worry about the main thing - there are no altruists in the elites of any country.
                    1. +14
                      20 February 2018 21: 35
                      Quote: IMH
                      I think about money, and I, and you, and your leaders. You don’t worry about the main thing - there are no altruists in the elites of any country.

                      it seems that yours and ours are your leaders of the same faith. Yes In 1995, it was possible to leave for a Baku fitting through any synagogue. Yes Are you not one of these? what
                      1. 0
                        21 February 2018 02: 51
                        pss ... elections soon, here respected and crucifies. Further more.
                      2. +1
                        21 February 2018 11: 58
                        Yes, you beat him, it’s clear that he’s just trolling everyone here. He needs no reason not to insult.
                    2. +22
                      20 February 2018 21: 41
                      Quote: IMH
                      and your leaders

                      I do not have such, therefore I am called - Anarchist. And I need money not for wealth, but as a means of livelihood ... A means, not an end! Than those whom you call leaders cannot boast. And you, I think, since the first thing you remembered for money ...
                    3. +11
                      21 February 2018 00: 52
                      Quote: IMH
                      Thinking of money and I

                      Please tell me, are Arabs saying that terrorists are cutting Jews with knives? And then, after reading your comments, those who have stepped up since February 11, I began to doubt ... Maybe these guys are simply poorly educated and cannot support polemics at the maliciously poisonous Jewish level and simply act in a state of passion having the opportunity to reach your mouthful ...? I'm just wondering theoretically.
                  2. +11
                    20 February 2018 21: 39
                    Image is nothing, money is everything. You should not require a Jew to step on his own throat song.
                    1. +11
                      21 February 2018 04: 31
                      Why do we not answer them with the same "answers"?
                      If the gut is thin, then what the hell did they climb to the Middle East?
                      Miller and Sechin wanted more? Then why only with our "concerns" get off? Soon they will again write in their ears about another "tricky plan"?))
                2. +1
                  20 February 2018 21: 47
                  Dilemma. Learn to articulate thoughts ...
                3. +17
                  20 February 2018 21: 53
                  Quote: IMH
                  How can Russia try on these same mine sanctions if the money of the Russian elite and those responsible for applying such sanctions are located where these sanctions should be sent? Dilema ...

                  Not everything in the world rests on selfish interests, but it’s in your blood that it’s a pity that understanding of this has passed you, Russia squeezed you out as unnecessary moisture. hi
                4. +3
                  21 February 2018 02: 12
                  Quote: IMH
                  How can Russia try on these same mine sanctions if the money of the Russian elite and those responsible for applying such sanctions are located where these sanctions should be sent? Dilema ...
                  What kind of old templates, money is where only their owner knows, and they never saved a lot of money in the states. The creams of all the rich lie in secluded corners, they will come up with all the nonsense that all the money of the world lies in the states, a fairy tale ... No.
                  Top 5 largest banks in the world.
                  1.Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) $ 3.47 trillion Bank Assets - China
                  2.China Construction Bank Corporation $ 3.02 trillion Bank Assets - China
                  3.Agricultural Bank of China $ 2.82 trillion. Bank Assets - China
                  4.Bank of China ltd $ 2.60 trillion. Bank Assets - China
                  5.Mitsubishi UFJ Financia l $ 2.59 trillion Bank Assets - Japan


                  Top 5 most reliable banks in the world.
                  1. KfW (Kreditanstalt für Wiederaufbau) Germany
                  2. Zürcher Kantonalbank Switzerland
                  3. Landwirtschaftliche Rentenbank Germany
                  4. L-Bank (Landeskreditbank Baden-Württemberg) Germany
                  5. Bank Nederlandse Gemeenten (BNG) Netherlands
                5. +3
                  21 February 2018 05: 48
                  Quote: IMH
                  if the money of the Russian elite and those responsible for applying such sanctions are located where these sanctions should be sent?

                  Money, what is it today? virtual garbage, followed by zilch, no gold, no oil, no resources that the RF is rich in. I’ll say it on a peasant basis, let this elite bring it down, with their money, without the resources of our country, they do not need them there, resources, that’s the main thing now. And not zilch, in the face of the "elite" and banknotes. There is a war going on today.
                  I don’t know if I could explain to you, I’ll tell you with a joke.
                  Vasily Ivanovich and Petka fell into the desert. They want to go eat suddenly
                  Petka finds a bag of canned food, and Chapai a bag of gold. Vasily Ivanovich
                  says Petka, let's market, we will create goods for you, I have money. Petka
                  says: let's tin can a sack of gold, Chapai yells and you're stunned.
                  Petka in response, and you walk around the market can find cheaper!
                  So it is in our case. And in yours, you Israel, having no resources, are in the position of a lover, that is, in content, what can you give valuable, yours, not stolen?
                  1. 0
                    23 February 2018 00: 07
                    This is you in vain, probably out of ignorance. A lot of Israeli high-tech products go around the world, including in states
                6. +1
                  21 February 2018 08: 42
                  And could you imagine in January 2014 that in March 2014 Crimea will become part of Russia? Or in 2013 to imagine that in 2015 Russia will fight in Syria? Such a situation may arise that a solution that is today considered unthinkable will remain the only one in a week. No need to tease the Russian bear, this will not be good for anyone.
                7. 0
                  22 February 2018 23: 51
                  There is no dilemma. The rocket itself, the money in the bank by themselves, and we have enough gold
              2. +7
                20 February 2018 21: 48
                Well, in the mines. Against who? against thousands to the teeth of armed thugs who across the border of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan will climb to us? whom do you propose to throw nuclear warheads? Americans are simply doing what did not work out in Syria. This is their plan B. To bring war to Russia. By any means involved in the war and weaken, to make sure that we would not have the forces and means to pursue an independent policy. The Caucasus didn’t work, so it’s necessary to light it on the other hand. The main thing is to ignite, and there uncontrollable chaos will spread throughout the country. Remember the 90s when our border guards beat off spirits on the borders of Central Asia. So they are preparing a repetition.
                1. 0
                  21 February 2018 09: 17
                  For Hariton Laptev. On your:
                  "... Americans just do what did not work out in Syria. This is their plan B. To bring war to Russia ..." ************************* ************************
                  The Americans just everything Everything in Syria "succeeded"!
                  Putin’s “failed” ...
            2. +7
              21 February 2018 01: 54
              You didn’t offer, you openly mock. In vain. If an open wall goes to the wall, do you think you will sit out or pay off? Oh well. Dreaming is not harmful.
              1. Imh
                0
                21 February 2018 07: 54
                Why is the economic sanction against Omeriki "openly mocking" for you? Or do you doubt the economic power of Russia ??
                1. +9
                  21 February 2018 12: 04
                  Yes, it’s violet to me that America has it. I don’t understand one thing, as the article, even for the edge of Israel, you are all starting to scream that there are no other topics. I understand that I don’t like it when they poke you in guano. An article for America and Russia, an Israeli citizen unclenched feathers.
            3. 0
              21 February 2018 08: 41
              Quote: IMH
              I proposed economic sanctions against the US

              what's the point? -only military-political, the disease must be cut to the root!
            4. 0
              22 February 2018 23: 50
              We can stop deliveries of rocket engines, we can not supply plutonium, though the Americans will then throw astronauts with a slingshot if they don’t turn off the light of the nuclear power plant without our fuel
          2. +1
            21 February 2018 13: 00
            And these verses begin: Here the tram on the rails got up, under the tram a Jew fell, Jews, Jews, only Jews around ...
        2. +13
          20 February 2018 21: 02
          No, we’re better than the Israeli F-16 from the “Syrian” air defense installation Yes
          Quote: IMH
          You have already delivered the “Needles”, which they themselves bring down. Can you come up with other leverage? Well, for example, to ban the American top in Sochi from resting, or to ban congressmen and the US military from opening accounts with Sberbank and VTB, or, as a last resort, disconnect the United States from the Russian Rainbow payment system. There are many options.
          1. Imh
            +2
            20 February 2018 21: 08
            Perfectly. We will see.
            1. +11
              20 February 2018 21: 13
              Quote: IMH
              We will see

              We are waiting for the premiere! Seeds, kvass ... (Do not offer chips and cola)
              I would like special effects in the form of debris falling on the heads of the Americans fellow
            2. +3
              20 February 2018 21: 52
              Already Karl, already!
              Quote: IMH
              Perfectly. We will see.
              1. Imh
                +1
                20 February 2018 22: 17
                Yes already. Yes, so that now the next F-16 has nothing to shoot down. Annoyance, huh?
                1. +6
                  20 February 2018 23: 08
                  Quote: IMH
                  nothing to bring down

                  And this is already
                  Quote: IMH
                  We will see

                  Don't wait long Yes
            3. +8
              20 February 2018 21: 53
              What will you look at ??? Yes, you, like Europe, become an appendage of amers. If tomorrow there is no mattress, then you put it in the language where you have been kept under European feudal lords for a thousand years. They gave you a country so little, Pushkin has a fairy tale about a small fish and a small fish, so here you are, grandmother.
          2. 0
            21 February 2018 10: 17
            One a year? A powerful reason for pride. And how many of these 16 facilities in Syria were razed to the ground? How many bearded were driven into sand?
        3. +3
          20 February 2018 21: 03
          Quote: IMH
          Can you come up with other leverage? Well, for example, to ban the American elite in Sochi from resting, or to ban congressmen and the US military from opening accounts with Sberbank and VTB,

          Normal statement. We see you, no matter how we hide. Why fly unidentified turntables and do not pour fire on the jabberworms? I understand that All for the sake of drug sex and rock and roll.
          By the way, we, Israel, are also dipping our nose in kaku when you launch missiles without warning us hi
          1. Imh
            +8
            20 February 2018 21: 11
            Bgggg wassat The main thing is that you don’t get tired yourself, otherwise the bogs of small victorious wars in the Middle East have buried many empires, the USSR is one of them. As a person who understands the state of affairs in Russia, I want to tell you — all over the world “order” is trying to restore this one thing, but to take and restore order at home is another. It would be better if you worried so much for Russia as you did for Israel.

            hi
            1. +21
              20 February 2018 21: 19
              Quote: IMH
              It would be better if you worried so much for Russia as you did for Israel.

              They fled to Israel and fled. Why so show off then? For example, I am also a Jewish person. Pasha on Mother Russia and do not curse hi
              This is the Russian snowball you need, and Russia you have not rested. Traitors, they are traitors in the USA
              1. Imh
                +1
                20 February 2018 21: 23
                He didn’t run away like some, but made aliyah. Feel the difference.
                1. +22
                  20 February 2018 21: 29
                  Quote: IMH
                  He didn’t run away like some, but made aliyah. Feel the difference.

                  Who taught you? Israel? Not! USSR, and then the Russian Federation and you fled !!!! From the graves of their kin. And do not hide behind Aliyah. Ordinary betrayal hi
                  1. Imh
                    +1
                    20 February 2018 21: 32
                    What big words, however ... but off topic.
                    1. +14
                      20 February 2018 21: 39
                      Quote: IMH
                      What big words, however ... but off topic.

                      Well, the ardor of the newly-born Jewish youth has befell. I apologize to all visitors to the site.
                      You do not agree with Viktorovich. It is said that we see, therefore, we say: "Explain your fight against terrorism" - And then MANPADS appear to be MANPADS
                      1. +1
                        21 February 2018 08: 44
                        Quote: Tusv
                        Jewish youth

                        he is not a Russian Jew - he is a Western Jew - feel the difference
                    2. +16
                      20 February 2018 21: 41
                      Quote: IMH
                      What big words, however ... but off topic.

                      And you don’t bury your head like an ostrich, we know these tricks, starting from illiteracy in writing, etc. etc. the worm you are ours.
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                    4. +8
                      21 February 2018 01: 56
                      So what, what is off topic? But in truth! For a piece of sausage.
                  2. +7
                    21 February 2018 00: 03
                    Who taught you?

                    Like who? Little Johnny Jabotinsky and his foundation ......
                    Borya Woodpecker Uralsky (EBN Nikolaevich) swelled up the topic ..... but he could have “recaptured” the country's budget for the repatriation of Jews to the State of Israel, 10 thousand “Baku” from a person leaving Russia, regardless of direction, such as indulgence for "Sold Homeland and Banner" wink
                    1. +2
                      21 February 2018 00: 21
                      Quote: Solomon Kane
                      Like who? Little Johnny Jabotinsky and his foundation ......

                      E. I’m Vovochka, nicknamed Zhabotinsky. There is no fund. Lie drinks
                      1. +3
                        21 February 2018 00: 35
                        There is no fund. Lie
                        ...... Here are the demons, they fell into pieces ..... but that you are not there, but here or you are already there, but still with us? wink request
                        And how: the fund is no longer there, but are you still alive?
                  3. 0
                    21 February 2018 10: 29
                    It feels like you’ve gotten into your pocket. Actually, normal people are studying, and a lot of woes of engineers and other specialists with higher education in the USSR and Russia really taught, but just didn’t teach anything. The country with the highest percentage of people with higher education, but for some reason the cat wept for the Nobel laureates. And for some reason, stupid pins .... in their disappointments 10 more.
                    1. 0
                      1 March 2018 02: 27
                      In my opinion, the Nobel Prize has ceased to be a measure of science, from the moment it was presented to Obama. And no matter what it was awarded for, we understand perfectly well who the woman is dancing .....
                  4. 0
                    21 February 2018 13: 09
                    Quote: Tusv
                    Who taught you?
                    Who gave you the internet? America? Quickly turning into an American.
                2. +15
                  20 February 2018 21: 36
                  Aliya (Hebrew עלייה, literally “ascent”, “ascent”, “elevation”) - the repatriation of Jews to the State of Israel, and until the founding of the State of Israel - to the Country of Israel. It is one of the basic concepts of Zionism, now enshrined in the Law of Israel "On Return". The opposite action, the emigration of Jews from Israel, is called the word yerida ("descent", "descent").

                  In my opinion, that fleeing, that Alia, is one and the same thing ... To recall the roots of a year and a half thousand years ago and to dump it where it is warmer ... Supporters of Darwin's theory can dump to Africa without remorse! Also a kind - Alia ...
                  1. Imh
                    +2
                    20 February 2018 22: 30
                    You do a cheap flood. The topic is serious, but you are distracting members of the forum. Not good.
                    1. +12
                      20 February 2018 22: 52
                      You do a cheap flood. The topic is serious, but you are distracting members of the forum. Not good.

                      I told you right away about drugs and rock and roll. And you're talking about Israel. If drugs will be delivered to you, but MANPADS? And the barmalei? Your BBC soup Putin and Trump buzz hi
                      Do not flood yourself, but you will be unofficial
                    2. +11
                      20 February 2018 23: 18
                      Quote: IMH
                      You do a cheap flood.

                      No, I’m just answering a cheap flood! Nobody made you jump off the topic of the article ...
                      IMH ↑
                      Today, 21: 23
                      He didn’t run away like some, but made aliyah. Feel the difference.
                      But having received a rebuff that you cannot answer, you are trying to deploy everyone to the beginning ...
                  2. +6
                    21 February 2018 00: 06
                    And am I, and are we going to Jerusalem with them .......
                    And it doesn’t matter if you or I, in the land of Israel .... feel laughing
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                  1. +9
                    21 February 2018 01: 04
                    Quote: Ascetic
                    For the unbelievable awareness of one’s singularity and exclusivity leads precisely to the worst manifestations of xenophobia and Nazism. A so-called the fight against anti-Semitism is just an ideological cover for their own crimes.

                    They said beautifully ...
                    If it’s easier ... hatred of the Jews is just a response to their behavior. They hate everywhere. Can everyone be wrong?
                    This Jewish boy IMH became active on February 11 after a long hibernation and carried the Russophobian blizzard. He simply sarcastically poisoned any event related to Russia. It seems to me that this is just a “job” for the elections.
                    1. +6
                      21 February 2018 02: 00
                      Seen in a boy, maybe not a boy, does spring itch begin?
                4. +6
                  21 February 2018 00: 06
                  Whatever you call it, all one - Ran off. Did he stake out the grave in Russia?
              2. 0
                21 February 2018 13: 08
                Quote: Tusv
                For example, I am also a Jewish person
                And what are you a Jew? Priazyvatsya just in case?
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              1. Imh
                +1
                20 February 2018 22: 31
                Dear forum, topic about Afghanistan, about the southern underbelly of Russia! No kidding here!
                1. +14
                  20 February 2018 23: 05
                  Quote: IMH
                  Dear forum, topic about Afghanistan, about the southern underbelly of Russia! No kidding here!

                  Ryaba, what did the circumcision do to you? It will not be a joke when Russia and the United States begin a real showdown. Then the rest of the world will be sitting up with ears up. In the meantime, fights of local importance.
                  1. +1
                    21 February 2018 05: 13
                    About two hell the world will sit, add fuel to the fire, especially half of the Nazi Ukraine. So it really is not a joke.
              2. 0
                20 February 2018 23: 11
                Quote: Hariton Laptev
                Oh Izya sho you are so amazed ??? Egypt, Palestine, Iran, Syria will continue to call the corners where you sucked out dust restoring order ??? And sho you forgot in the land of the Pharaoh ???


                clown around to your face
                1. +5
                  20 February 2018 23: 35
                  Quote: Maki Avellevich
                  clown around to your face

                  And you? Is the Israelis frank nonsense to weave?
                2. +1
                  21 February 2018 08: 05
                  Yes, looking at what you and your overseas owners are doing, you just have to either joke or take pitchforks, in Russia they can do both very well, unlike some who have the courage to bomb civilians and even then when there is complete certainty that the return will not fly.
                  1. +1
                    21 February 2018 20: 06
                    Quote: Hariton Laptev
                    Yes, looking at what you and your overseas owners are doing, you can only either joke or take pitchforks


                    do not confuse humor and irrational antics. Hariton Laptev's infirmary load is about nil point zero
        4. +2
          21 February 2018 00: 27
          You have already delivered the “Needles”, which they themselves bring down. Can you come up with other leverage?

        5. +1
          21 February 2018 00: 53
          Take the American tactics in the 80s. They supplied the Stringers. Well, now we are Needles ..

          It is necessary not to arm under our nose, but preferably on the territory of the FSI;
        6. 0
          21 February 2018 06: 48
          Quote: IMH
          Can you come up with other leverage?

          Can. Sell ​​some weapons to Palestine ... belay
          1. 0
            21 February 2018 13: 13
            Quote: Esoteric
            Can. Sell ​​some weapons to Palestine
            Indeed, Israel needs modern models of Russian weapons.
      3. +5
        20 February 2018 20: 37
        Lavrov: Russia is waiting for the United States to clarify about unidentified helicopters in Afghanistan

        Something tells me that unidentified MANPADS operators will solve the problem of unidentified helicopters well! I think that the roar of the instantly found owner of these "ghosts" will be heard on both sides of the ocean! negative
        1. Imh
          0
          20 February 2018 20: 59
          MANPADS are waiting for you.
          1. +6
            20 February 2018 23: 08
            Quote: IMH
            MANPADS are waiting for you.

            And what about our “underbelly”? You grow your "tummy" and our comments about this do not welcome. So who will be with MANPADS - doesn’t particularly concern you either, sorry for the harshness. By the way - why are you so suddenly worried about the fate of unidentified helicopters? lol
            1. +6
              21 February 2018 00: 16
              Quote: Manul
              Quote: IMH
              MANPADS are waiting for you.

              And what about our “underbelly”? You grow your "tummy" and our comments about this do not welcome. So who will be with MANPADS - doesn’t particularly concern you either, sorry for the harshness. By the way - why are you so suddenly worried about the fate of unidentified helicopters? lol

              Ilya, do not pay attention! This three-letter character under the Israeli flag is so shy that even the name is kept secret, but when the owner is run into, he breaks out with sarcastic sarcasm. A normal singing reaction, a bunch of comments and everything according to the eternal Jewish principle, Everything around is stupid, but the goddess kissed me, and straight to the pile! Yes
              1. +2
                21 February 2018 00: 39
                Quote: Major Yurik
                A normal singing reaction, a bunch of comments and everything according to the eternal Jewish principle, Everything around is stupid, but the goddess kissed me, and straight to the pile!

                Duc is not the first day on the site, and the character has already studied them. Our annoyance for them is honey and halva. When I understood this, it became much easier for me to find words to answer them.
                PS By the way, your post, about
                unidentified MANPADS operators
                - just shine! good I really liked it.
      4. 0
        20 February 2018 21: 38
        not. this does not roll.
      5. 0
        20 February 2018 21: 40
        So what, what, and no one will deliver MANPADS there.
      6. 0
        20 February 2018 22: 19
        No. What for? We must also supply the "stingers." Let them fight after each other. winked
      7. +1
        20 February 2018 23: 22
        Take the American tactics in the 80s. They supplied the Stringers. Well, now we are Needles ..

        A couple of months ago I was a little "not eaten offal" in the forum for such a proposal. hi
      8. 0
        21 February 2018 00: 14
        Quote: 210ox
        Take the American tactics in the 80s. They supplied the Stringers. Well, now we are Needles ..
        Quote: Herkulesich
        You need to shoot them down, and enough to "partner" with veiled enemies!

        If we talk about this type of weapon, then Stingers and Javelins and we could help a neighbor. The effect would be louder.
    2. +2
      20 February 2018 20: 15
      Shoot them down


      Where in Afghanistan? The 40th army has already been withdrawn from there, sort of.
      1. +5
        20 February 2018 20: 21
        dauria - there may “get lost” Dekhanin, who bought the MANPADS a couple of decades ago, on occasion, and helicopters interfere with work in the field! hi
        1. +4
          20 February 2018 20: 42
          there may "get lost" dekhanin who bought pzrk


          Misha Gorbachev got lost when he merged the strategic region to the Americans. They can now be picked out from these five airfields only with hot iron.
          1. +1
            20 February 2018 20: 53
            Quote: dauria
            there may "get lost" dekhanin who bought pzrk


            Misha Gorbachev got lost when he merged the strategic region to the Americans. They can now be picked out from these five airfields only with hot iron.

            but have not tried it yet
          2. +3
            20 February 2018 20: 58
            Quote: dauria
            They can now be picked out from these five airfields only with hot iron.

            Only there are no more those soldiers and there is no "hot iron" ..
            We keep the Far East from the TORs, not fat, I would be living.
      2. +6
        20 February 2018 20: 22
        The times when rows of trenches of multimillion-strong army of adversaries pass on both sides of the "neutral" have sunk into oblivion.
        Even if the war is not a hybrid, questions are still resolved through a proxy.
        Just remember (if you follow Syria) how the SAA drove the ISIS “bubble” through the “green” territory, passing it (and patting it) through its territory. And the entry of militias in Africa today? In short, they no longer go to bayonet in regional conflicts after artillery preparation smile
        1. +2
          20 February 2018 23: 04
          TRUTH DOES NOT GO IN THE GERMAN POST AFTER ART, but to come and finish off the survivors, I’ll think about the necessary action.
      3. 0
        20 February 2018 22: 20
        But the local population remains. And they still love money.
    3. +12
      20 February 2018 20: 16
      And the Americans rushed to explain to Russia, yeah. Run and stumble.
      Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs brilliantly mastered the tactics of “Requirements for clarification” and the method “Now, as we correct the note of protest, you will know then!”
      1. +3
        20 February 2018 20: 27
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        And the Americans rushed to explain to Russia, yeah. Run and stumble.
        Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs brilliantly mastered the tactics of “Requirements for clarification” and the method “Now, as we correct the note of protest, you will know then!”

        Do you know such a thing as trolling? Well, or as a rhetorical question. Yes, diplomacy is now including such smile
        1. +4
          20 February 2018 21: 36
          Yeah, I remember how in the summer the star-stripes touched our Lavrovites and squeezed out deep property. Noble trolling was however
      2. +4
        20 February 2018 20: 38
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs brilliantly mastered the tactics of “Requirements for clarification” and the method “Now, as we correct the note of protest, you will know then!”

        They can even send seven notes from "to" to "si", these are notes from raldugin, and they don’t even have time to justify themselves .. they can only pour it off, but the mattresses don’t understand that meldronate can be in the form of powder wink
        1. +4
          20 February 2018 21: 33
          I once took meldonium. I still can’t understand why I’m not a world champion)
          1. +8
            20 February 2018 21: 42
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            I once took meldonium. I still can’t understand why I’m not a world champion)

            Old man! Duc it is necessary to bite! wassat
            1. +2
              21 February 2018 00: 21
              Quote: Captain of the Lieutenants
              Quote: Black_Jacket
              I once took meldonium. I still can’t understand why I’m not a world champion)

              Old man! Duc it is necessary to bite! wassat

              Barbell and kettlebell.
          2. +1
            21 February 2018 13: 16
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            I once took meldonium. I still can’t understand why I’m not a world champion)

            Because meldonium is taken for a long time. Once it does not work. Reference.
            1. +2
              21 February 2018 13: 29
              And after repeated use, what happens?
              1. +1
                21 February 2018 13: 33
                Quote: Black_Jacket
                And after repeated use, what happens?

                They say that the heart works better, well, and "in general" ...
                1. 0
                  21 February 2018 14: 30
                  I asked a rhetorical question. Since he took Mildronate for quite some time. I did it just so as not to plant my heart during the "drying"
                  Meldonium has no “Well and generally” properties.
      3. +7
        20 February 2018 20: 58
        I would venture to suggest that the tactics are the same as in Syria: the Amerz supply military base around ISIS training camps cleared from the natives. A bridgehead is being prepared for promotion to Central Asia.
        1. +1
          20 February 2018 21: 34
          For years, competent people have been sounding the alarm regarding ISIS (or any derivative of it) in Central Asia.
          1. +2
            20 February 2018 22: 09
            Quote: Black_Jacket
            For years, competent people have been sounding the alarm regarding ISIS (or any derivative of it) in Central Asia.

            yes .... but when September 11.09.2001, XNUMX, they suddenly came up with terrorism, before blowing up a little in the Russian Federation, until they caught in Ryazan, such as sugar, announcing the whole WORLD is international terrorism and we are partners in this fight, when suddenly bang, and then the tobacco apart, while ....
            Our city partners aren’t appearing in the TV set, they are probably understanding that the three-headed hydra of passengers there, with the partner flight of the same name, decided with partners on the topic of “pockets”. that's not funny at all.
            1. 0
              21 February 2018 00: 46
              I completely understood what you meant in the second paragraph.
    4. +4
      20 February 2018 20: 18
      Quote: Herkulesich
      You need to shoot them down, and enough to "partner" with veiled enemies!

      unidentified and fly in Syria, maybe start there
    5. +6
      20 February 2018 20: 19
      I wonder where and in what province these unidentified turntables fly. In my opinion, the “game” begins against Iran. Maybe Pakistan has become a target for the "partners" - it is known that the states refused them financial assistance. I can’t believe that their barmaley will be sent against the Taliban. hi
      1. +3
        20 February 2018 23: 03
        Quote: Kasym
        Maybe Pakistan

        Yes, I think Pakistan ...
        And also, all the "underbelly" Cf. Ah ... The weakest link, Turkmenistan ...
        And to provide the “blacks” with weapons. It is necessary to open the Pakistani weapons depots ...
      2. +2
        20 February 2018 23: 45
        Quote: Kasym
        Maybe Pakistan has become a target for "partners

        Pakistan has begun to look too much toward China. It is buying weapons, strengthening trade ties. It is even about China’s naval base. in Pakistan. It will be funny. if Igilovites, fed by the Americans, launch attacks on Pakistani lands. A kind of karma for supporting the Mujahideen against the USSR.
    6. +1
      20 February 2018 20: 39
      Quote: Herkulesich
      You need to shoot them down, and enough to "partner" with veiled enemies!

      If your post alone, like this one could shoot down an enemy helicopter, then you would have destroyed all American aircraft in Afghanistan and would have taken up armored vehicles. good
      1. +2
        20 February 2018 21: 02
        you would have destroyed all American aviation in afghanistan
        I think he understands that only the IDF can do it.
    7. +3
      20 February 2018 21: 23
      Lavrov: Russia expects clarifications from the United States about unidentified helicopters in Afghanistan. If it does not wait, it will very boldly express its concern!
    8. +2
      20 February 2018 22: 00
      Quote: Herkulesich
      You need to shoot them down, and enough to "partner" with veiled enemies!

      And what? If American impudence is included, the Yankees themselves will not dig.
      The activity in the air of the militants was recorded. Air doesn’t water the earth with fire, which means the Barmalei have their own Air Force - you can shoot them down. In the UN Security Council it will ride lol
      1. +3
        21 February 2018 02: 36
        Quote: Tusv
        The activity in the air of the militants was recorded. Air doesn’t water the earth with fire, which means the Barmalei have their own Air Force - you can shoot them down. In the UN Security Council it will ride

        A UFO flew in and accidentally shot down an unidentified helicopter. Why not? Aliens can also interfere in our earthly affairs, such as they are, but we do not see them. belay
    9. +2
      20 February 2018 22: 04
      Right. First knock down, then apologize is not very hard (ostensibly missed). And then actually ask a question, but what did they do there ???
    10. +3
      20 February 2018 22: 49
      Quote: Herkulesich
      You need to shoot them down, and enough to "partner" with veiled enemies!
      Well, we ourselves should not shoot them down. However, given the particular “decency of partners,” we must move from making assumptions and formulating “interesting” questions that traditionally remain unanswered to direct actions, namely, giving the Taliban official political status at the UN level, with the removal of the terrorist organization from the category of the category of the negotiating party with the right to vote, in order to engage in the negotiation process for a peaceful settlement, with the provision of military and humanitarian assistance to this force to increase its weight category. If mattresses do not want to agree on a plan to stop terrorist transit on good, then they must be forced to this through losses. The fact that the United States is a non-negotiable party has been demonstrated more than once, and therefore attempts to conduct a “reasonable” dialogue with them simply lead to a loss of time and an aggravation of the situation to their own detriment.
      1. +3
        20 February 2018 23: 10
        Reserve Fund, Future Generation Fund, etc. Including in US securities, shares of American enterprises, and in the accounts of American banks. The entire Russian elite has real estate in the United States or the West. Lavrov’s daughter is a US citizen. Your beloved Solovyov’s house in the USA, and in Italy, the second citizenship of Israel. Medvedev has vineyards in Tuscany. Usmanov, who inherited the mining industry of the USSR, is no longer a tax resident R.F.
        Naryshkin has an apartment in London opposite the Palace of Westminster.
        And do you seriously think that Russia is opposed to the West? Do not you think that you are bred? And the maximum that Russia can answer is a ban on the import of tomatoes.
        1. +3
          21 February 2018 07: 42
          Lavrov’s daughter was born in the United States, when he worked there for 15 years, and therefore received US citizenship automatically, like any child who is born in the states. Moreover, she studied there for the same reason i.e. at the place of work of the parents.
          1. 0
            21 February 2018 11: 25
            What would you know: In the USA, citizenship, at the birth of a child, is given only with the consent of two parents. Or at the age of majority, born in the United States, a person applies for citizenship in the US government. Thus, the daughter of Lavrov consciously chose her citizenship, with the full consent of her father.
            1. +3
              21 February 2018 13: 20
              Quote: Felixsoft
              What would you know: In the USA, citizenship, at the birth of a child, is given only with the consent of two parents. Or at the age of majority, born in the United States, a person applies for citizenship in the US government. Thus, the daughter of Lavrov consciously chose her citizenship, with the full consent of her father.

              I fully agree-Kalantaryan is preparing a "reserve airfield" for himself.
    11. +1
      20 February 2018 22: 57
      Shoot down ?! And what to do with Russian real estate in Florida and Miami ?! With bank accounts? And do you seriously believe that Lavrov, whose daughter is a US citizen, is militant?
    12. +1
      21 February 2018 09: 40
      Yes, the constant attempts by our Foreign Ministry to get some kind of answers from the USA somehow annoy. Do we need them, these answers? Like, without them we can’t imagine our existence? Well, for pro forma, you can ask, but you need to act!
      But what, SVR and GRU do not work with our agents in the DRA? Or did the arrows run out of storage? A few turntables would fill up and watch the reaction ... One Chinook costs about 29 million greens.
      Saw, Shura ...
    13. 0
      21 February 2018 10: 03
      Are you sure that a hot spot in that area will not immediately follow after the turntable is knocked down? It's almost "casus belli" - they provoke with their "sloppy actions", and you - (okay, even if not with the hands of your soldiers) are being provoked. The States competently draw a terrible video, increase the excitement in their society, and Trump (as in the case of the Al-Shairat base) signs an order for extraordinary bombing of anyone (or the introduction of a contingent) in the territory strategized by him. It is clear that there the Yankees are sticking out. But this will be the reason for the "importation" of a large contingent, for example, through the territory. Pakistan. There will just be a reason to set up an intelligence complex to "spy" on Iran and the north-west. By China.
      Something similar, as you can see, but with other "people" we have already passed.
      Something like that.
  2. +4
    20 February 2018 20: 21
    Lavrov, of course, is far from naive when asking such questions to “partners,” but the mattress is vitally interested in constant destabilization in Afghanistan and will never give up on its own feeding.
    1. 0
      20 February 2018 23: 04
      Quote: Egorovich
      the mattress is vitally interested in constant destabilization in Afghanistan and will never give up its feeding.

      Most likely there is no one to hand over at all. Today, the United States Department of Defense transferred logistics to some other non-military issues at such points to civilian contractors. In Iraq alone, more than 100 private companies were involved for such purposes, including and PMCs such as Black Water or DynCorp. For example, it will conclude a MO contract for the supply of toilet or kitchen equipment to the US base in Afghanistan with the Cretan offshore company X, and that on its own behalf will conclude an agreement with the "daughter" Black Water, registered in some Dominican Republic, for the transportation of this equipment . That flies in the sky of Afghanistan, "horrible." Chinook, that is military, that is not military, of the same color and profile. And they will bring it down - Prince will pay the families of the dead or not, as indicated in the contract with the pilots. But most importantly, the Moscow Region and the State Department have nothing to do with it! Such a scheme has been worked out in Iraq for more than 10 years. So they will answer Lavrov: "We have no idea what you are asking !!!"
  3. +11
    20 February 2018 20: 31
    The easiest way is to shoot down, and the owner will immediately find.
    1. +4
      20 February 2018 21: 05
      Quote: Rusland
      The easiest way is to shoot down, and the owner will immediately find.
      good good Lavrov needs to tell this method laughing
  4. +2
    20 February 2018 20: 58
    And what’s the problem, throw the unknown Strela 2M MANPADS to the Taliban and let the unknown SU 37 fly without identifying marks, beat them to hell. Enough already-Guys, let's live together !!!
  5. +2
    20 February 2018 21: 02
    Do not wait. Because they spat on our partnership.
  6. +4
    20 February 2018 21: 29
    Such a normal traffic, there barmaley and related "goods" back "white" in unmeasured quantities! And sho here to be indignant, to show concern here you need to sniff or in another way how to perceive the "friendly" care of the suffering !!!
  7. +2
    20 February 2018 21: 34
    Yes, everything is clear to us, the question is how much are we ready for this ?!
  8. +5
    20 February 2018 22: 07
    Russia expects clarification from unidentified helicopters in Afghanistan from USA

    It is useless to wait for the striped dogs to clarify the gray traffic ... Say what you like, but besides drugs, their whole operation, by and large, has nothing to do with it. And as a bonus, we also need a point of instability near the borders of the Russian Federation.
    1. +6
      21 February 2018 00: 18
      And as a bonus, we also need an instability point near the borders of the Russian Federation.

      I note, and not one .....
      There will be no flying enemy aircraft, missiles, NATO soldiers. (All this will be, but then) ... And at first everything will be different ...

      To begin with, everyone in Russia needs to be clearly and clearly aware that, as long as there are no armies of European countries, the “Ukrainian army” no longer exists, there is no longer a “Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, Georgian, Moldavian”. And all these armed units, funded by the United States, trained by the United States, armed by the United States, are nothing more than units of the American army that perform tasks exclusively of American interests. And there should be no doubt that the United States will fight with Russia exclusively with their hands and the lives of their soldiers.

      Everyone will see the start of a "hot" war between the USA and Russia - Georgia will attack South Ossetia again. Moldova in Transnistria. Ukraine on the DNI and LC and provocations in the Crimea. Azerbaijan will attack Armenia. Central Asia will explode (from Afghanistan, the remnants of IS accumulated there (banned in the Russian Federation) will attack our border guards in Tajikistan).

      In the Baltic republics, provocations against the Russians will begin. Attempts to set fire to the North Caucasus will be accompanied by solitary attacks. These conflicts around the perimeter and within Russia will also be accompanied by hysterical screams in the Western media and liberal circles about “the aggressive behavior of Russia” (which will not be able to watch indifferently and try to “put out” the fires) And with an increase in attempts to destabilize the political the situation inside Russia through provocations, liberal (and not only) circles will intensely create a negative provocative "picture" for the Western media.
      1. +4
        21 February 2018 08: 25
        Just so, just such a scenario. True, we have an answer to this scenario - strategic nuclear forces, in the USA, in their strawberries in Switzerland, in their ally in the BV. Do not go to the grandmother.
        1. +3
          21 February 2018 08: 50
          True to this scenario, we have an answer - SNF
          .... the only thing that holds them back ......
      2. +1
        21 February 2018 08: 51
        Yes, dear Solomon, a beautiful picture was drawn. It looks very realistic. But on the cunning OPU there is something with a screw ... In any case, I have hopes for it ...
  9. +2
    20 February 2018 22: 25
    Western partners ... What kind of partners are they to us?
    1. +3
      21 February 2018 02: 37
      Quote: gukoyan
      Western partners ... What kind of partners are they to us?

      Sworn angry
  10. 0
    21 February 2018 01: 22
    Quote: IMH
    How can Russia try on these same mine sanctions if the money of the Russian elite and those responsible for applying such sanctions are located where these sanctions should be sent? Dilema ...

    Yes good
  11. 0
    21 February 2018 01: 25
    Russia is awaiting clarification from the US and NATO on unidentified helicopter flights to militant-controlled areas of Afghanistan, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov
    Perhaps they are being transferred to Syria to make up for losses! winked
  12. +2
    21 February 2018 02: 47
    Quote: IMH
    You have already delivered the “Needles”, which they themselves bring down. Can you come up with other leverage? Well, for example, to ban the American top in Sochi from resting, or to ban congressmen and the US military from opening accounts with Sberbank and VTB, or, as a last resort, disconnect the United States from the Russian Rainbow payment system. There are many options.

    pc18 fit?
  13. +1
    21 February 2018 05: 07
    Everything fell into place — we racked our brains where they took ISIS from Syria - “they don’t leave their own.”
  14. 0
    21 February 2018 05: 36
    it was necessary to land with MANPADS one of these flying gollantsy and immediately it would be clear whose turntables ...
  15. +1
    21 February 2018 06: 33
    "Why ask stupid questions"? Shoot down one, immediately find out whose he is. wink Why aren’t you knocking it down? Ah, of course, all of a sudden, “partners” will not understand and “take offense” .... it’s better to “ask” one more time and .... do not get an answer.
  16. +1
    21 February 2018 08: 31
    Quote: IMH
    You have already delivered the “Needles”, which they themselves bring down. Can you come up with other leverage? Well, for example, to ban the American top in Sochi from resting, or to ban congressmen and the US military from opening accounts with Sberbank and VTB, or, as a last resort, disconnect the United States from the Russian Rainbow payment system. There are many options.

    -----------------------------
    There are other propaganda methods, for example. It’s good to make a series of obscene films about American presidents, especially about Trump, not to forget there a number of Jewish characters like Trump Kushner’s son-in-law and, for example, Mnuchin. To make a film about the history of the state of Israel, such a ridiculous film-maker, where kibbutz collective farmers chase the British and vice versa. Rzhaka will be universal. As for the direct impact on the USA, it would be possible to organize a direct impact, but not to act in our rules with criminal methods.
  17. +1
    21 February 2018 08: 45
    Quote: IMH
    I think about money, and I, and you, and your leaders. You don’t worry about the main thing - there are no altruists in the elites of any country.

    That you in the next world will tell Joseph Vissarionovich!
    1. +1
      25 February 2018 00: 07
      Nobody needs your NATO and the USA all the more. I for Russia at least execute me anyway. I am Armenian. I am a friend of Russia
      1. 0
        26 February 2018 09: 01
        Needed, not needed - diplomats have such a job!
  18. 0
    21 February 2018 15: 38
    Not tired of waiting? What kind of cat is such a MID-Leopold? Tired of verbiage. You do not want to fight, and there is no need for slaughter, but you just have to affirm as the situation is seen. Like, the United States began supplying ISIS in Afghanistan with ammunition, delivering militants to conquer the state of Afghanistan, turning the country into IG-2. This threatens the security of our state and neighboring countries to our zone of influence. The Americans have crossed the red line. From here, we introduce an alarm mode from the actions of the Americans and send our allies the necessary resources to repel the fighters of the IG-2.
    And away we go! Let the Americans then explain their actions. Sami on bent will come running !!!
    Stop liberalizing. This liberalism is tired of in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, government, and the president. Turn on your head and predict what the enemies want and act ahead of the curve.
    I’m not a military man, I just can’t know everything, but the actions should not be Leopold.
  19. 0
    22 February 2018 23: 47
    Well, completely unfamiliar and unidentified helicopters. Identification marks can be hidden or replaced, but the silhouette of the Chinook cannot be hidden. Yes, and others are familiar. and since the Americans don’t fly there, then it’s the Igilov helicopters, and they must be shot down
  20. 0
    25 February 2018 00: 04
    Wow class is simple. The Americans want to ruin Afghanistan. And there, strengthen the Igilevtsev. Go to Russia and go down the construction bases everywhere. From Syria to Afghanistan both in Libya and Iraq. But Russia is gaining strength and Russia is also strengthening its positions building military bases everywhere. It's a pity only people that they die in the war. Because the partners strengthen the interests of the opposition and give them money and weapons to fight the world government. Their hand and what they did in Ukraine then took a coup. But the whole world wants to get it. But remember Grandma Wang. Only the glory of Vladimir and the glory of Russia to gain strength all over the world. The country will sweep away and strengthen and expand. Nobody will defeat Russia. Glory to those soldiers who silence our world. In Armenia, too, Russians will protect us from Turkey and Azerbaijan. Glory to the brave people. Russians help the whole world from evil .

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