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Poroshenko ordered to change the format "ATO"

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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said that he was waiting in the shortest time before April 1 for proposals from the head of the country's defense ministry to change the format of the military operation in Donbass and the candidacy of the commander of the combined forces in accordance with the law on the reintegration of Donbass signed by him.


Poroshenko ordered to change the format "ATO"


This law (on the reintegration of Donbass) fixes our right to self-defense in accordance with the article of the UN Charter, 51. I am confident that in the present conditions, the leading role for the suppression of aggression falls on the shoulders of the armed forces of Ukraine. Therefore, Stepan Timofeevich (Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak), Viktor Nikolaevich (Head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Viktor Muzhenko), I will have an assignment, I am waiting for relevant proposals for changing the format in pursuance of this law (on the reintegration of Donbass) as soon as possible, please prepare me candidacy of the commander of the combined forces
- Poroshenko said at a meeting of the military office on Tuesday, which broadcast channel "112 Ukraine".

Poroshenko also ordered the submission of proposals for a joint operational headquarters, a strategic plan for the use of armed forces and other defense components. He asked to prepare these proposals by April 1, which will be fixed by presidential decree, RIA reports News
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 20 February 2018 19: 20
    +15
    Slaughter is inevitable! “We'll hang it later!” So ​​the time is right for this “later!” We should not be aloof, because we are next on the slaughter!
    1. Looking Petrovich
      Looking Petrovich 20 February 2018 19: 24
      +27
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Slaughter is inevitable! “We'll hang it later!” So ​​the time is right for this “later!” We should not be aloof, because we are next on the slaughter!

      Well, as an option, you can transfer to the other side of the sofa.
      1. Herculesic
        Herculesic 20 February 2018 19: 26
        +14
        Stupidly, at least! If there is essentially something to write, write, and do not meddle in other people's comments!
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 20 February 2018 19: 54
          +8
          And what exactly do you have in essence?
          1. Herculesic
            Herculesic 20 February 2018 20: 13
            +13
            Kent 001 - I have essentially a threat from the Ukrainian authorities against the population of Donbass! And I consider the children's commentary written right after mine to be stupid and inappropriate! Or does the author of "Looking Petrovich" write from a trench?
            1. Romka47
              Romka47 21 February 2018 12: 36
              +2
              Want to do something about an adult join the militia.
              1. Vladimir 5
                Vladimir 5 21 February 2018 20: 03
                -1
                Hercules is right, urgent measures are needed here - peacekeepers and demarcation. Surkov in the Donbass has already proved his professional unsuitability. Poroshenko saw how in the Kremlin, when the US defeated the Russian PMC in Syria, they wiped their snot. Such examples also encourage decisive steps. Recall that the Russian Federation was silent about the downed drone on the Turkish border, a few months later they shot down a Su-24 thinking that it would again cost a snotty mumble. Here perhaps the Americans have set fire to Poroshenko to play a fresh topic - to smash the Russian Federation, that’s why you need to be proactive and immediately ...
                1. Romka47
                  Romka47 22 February 2018 09: 03
                  +1
                  Peacekeepers? Are you out of your mind? We have already done this in Yugoslavia, these peacekeepers went aside at the first offensive, not even an offensive, but with a statement that there would be an offensive. The result is the genocide of our brothers. Do you want them in the Donbass that would be the same? peacekeepers there will not protect the Russians, they will protect the APU from volunteers and the north wind. I’m already tired of hearing about PMCs honestly, the Kremlin has lost its snot, you’re dissolving the snot here, you want to change something, do it!
      2. Thrall
        Thrall 20 February 2018 19: 27
        +5
        Poroshenko ordered to change the format "ATO"

        Poroshenko ordered Ukrainian TV channels to show ATO in FoolHD quality smile
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 20 February 2018 21: 09
          +9
          Quote: Thrall
          Poroshenko ordered to change the format "ATO"

          Poroshenko ordered Ukrainian TV channels to show ATO in FoolHD quality smile
          NU-U-U ... A certain (not) comrade Muzhenko declared at the time that there were no Russian troops in the Donbass. To be consistent, literally some two or three months ago, the Rada refused to recognize the LPR and the DPR as "terrorist organizations" !!!!! Question: - Against whom did the anti-terrorist operation take place over 4 years by the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, and what format do Poroshenko need today if there are no Russian troops or terrorists there?
          1. Antares
            Antares 20 February 2018 23: 33
            +3
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Rada refused to recognize the LPR and the DPR as "terrorist organizations"

            because they called it occupation ...
            By the way, the court also refused to refer to the “well-known fact” (wording), the court in Sumy also did not find acts to be called “terrorist organizations”
            the court in The Hague also refused to admit to Russia the fact of financing LDNR representatives (he recognized the logic of Ukraine in approaches to the application of the Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism) because of the possibility of "finding weapons in the mines themselves." Accordingly, it was not possible to attract “terrorists” to financing, and whether “terrorists”
            The legal nuances in the names have long been of no interest to anyone. Everyone changes the content of words and names.
            1. Serg koma
              Serg koma 21 February 2018 08: 50
              0
              Quote: Antares
              The legal nuances in the names have long been of no interest to anyone. Everyone changes the content of words and names.

              And there are Ukrainian trucks in the queue at the entrance to the Russian Federation ... It is not otherwise the "new formation" to combat the "aggression of Russia"
              MOSCOW, Jan 3 - RIA News. Between January and November 2017, trade between Russia and Ukraine increased by 28,6% to $ 9,36 billion.

              "Noodles" were once again hung on the pan-and-headed ones, and they - hawala, hawah and will continue to haw .... Axiom - no brains in an empty pan
      3. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 20 February 2018 21: 40
        +4
        yes they will try to create a couple more boilers ... PLANNED !!! boilers from a FITTING PIDARASHENK
      4. 72jora72
        72jora72 21 February 2018 07: 09
        +2
        Well, as an option, you can transfer to the other side of the sofa.
        Dear, unlike you, many here were in the Donbass in the 14-15th year, and if necessary they will go again ..................... and you will sit on couch and crush claudia ............
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 20 February 2018 19: 42
      +3
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Slaughter is inevitable! “We'll hang it later!” So ​​the time is right for this “later!” We should not be aloof, because we are next on the slaughter!

      But in fact, what has changed for LDNRovtsev? Did only some kind of good-men pressured on LDNR, and popcorn chewed under the Lvov APU?
      1. avt
        avt 20 February 2018 19: 56
        +5
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        But in fact, what has changed for LDNRovtsev?

        De jure Potroshenko signed a law on ,, reintegration "that is, by law he called Russia an achressor. ,, Minsk" died.
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        What a slaughter, do not tell. APU does not want to fight,

        No one asks rams when and how to go to the slaughter.
        Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
        Change. do not change the name of the ATO

        No. The second, well, after I have described above, this is a concrete step towards the personal, military dictatorship of the one who controls the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and Senya, "Baku" loses the breeding ground for his national gadget. So everything is really serious. A ruin is being prepared as a toxic asset, for cancellation, moreover, in the fastest, toughest version. Will the Germans and in general ,, the old Europeoptsi "somehow mix the process or something ..... ,, I don’t think"
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 20 February 2018 20: 51
          0
          Quote: avt

          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          But in fact, what has changed for LDNRovtsev?

          De jure Potroshenko signed a law on ,, reintegration "that is, by law he called Russia an achressor. ,, Minsk" died.

          I asked about LDNRovtsev. I know about Russia even without your help.
          1. avt
            avt 20 February 2018 21: 14
            +2
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            I asked about LDNRovtsev.

            request Russia is already de jure formed by Westerners as a party to the conflict. Well, on whose side also needs to be explained? Everything goes according to the scenario of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. BUT with the factor of having in Transnistria 250 thousand, it’s already quite a Russian citizen with the corresponding passports. The question is different. What to do with toxic waste in the form of those parts of the Ruins for which it will all be, "occupation."
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 21 February 2018 09: 50
              +1
              Quote: avt
              The question is different. What to do with toxic waste in the form of those parts of the Ruins for which it will all be, "occupation."

              I urge you to clarify your idea in my quote from your post. To be honest, I did not understand.
    3. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 20 February 2018 19: 47
      +3
      What a slaughter, do not tell. The Armed Forces of Ukraine do not want to fight, the national battalions and mercenaries are fighting and messing up, well, and if some sort of mess starts, Russia will help. A lot of volunteers will want to beat Bandera rabble, and if they still adopt the PMC law, then for 150 tr a month to reach the English Channel.
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 20 February 2018 19: 55
        +20
        APU does not want to fight, national battalions and mercenaries are at war and outrageous


        Are you really really? Do not tell the officer NM LPR. There are no less bastards from the APU than there are Natsiks. The difference is that in the army they serve more for money, and the National Bats for the idea.
        1. poquello
          poquello 20 February 2018 21: 04
          0
          Quote: Sands Career General
          APU does not want to fight, national battalions and mercenaries are at war and outrageous


          Are you really really? Do not tell the officer NM LPR. There are no less bastards from the APU than there are Natsiks. The difference is that in the army they serve more for money, and the National Bats for the idea.

          they are not alone, Petsya will request military support
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 20 February 2018 22: 47
            +3
            Two Amerz destroyers with 56 Tomahawks each ... ... and possibly with nuclear weapons ..., so to speak, support dill ...
            1. poquello
              poquello 20 February 2018 23: 02
              +2
              Quote: 30 vis
              Two Amerz destroyers with 56 Tomahawks each ... ... and possibly with nuclear weapons ..., so to speak, support dill ...

              Well, they don’t know what is hanging on their shores and can shoot apples, and 3,36 billion have two eggs hanging out and attention is somehow not really focused on this, but Petya is sleeping and sees the bourgeois troops mixed with dill, here From the question of who will climb into this adventure, you can look further at the future TVD
        2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
          Lavrenti Pavlovich 20 February 2018 21: 45
          +1
          Quote: Sands Career General
          APU does not want to fight, national battalions and mercenaries are at war and outrageous


          Are you really really? Do not tell the officer NM LPR. There are no less bastards from the APU than there are Natsiks. The difference is that in the army they serve more for money, and the National Bats for the idea.

          The APU is several times larger than the LDNR army in terms of numbers, the same in technique. If everything was so unambiguous in the Armed Forces, then LDNR would simply be rolled out. Such "NM LNR officers" as you, in Moscow and the Moscow region at least a dime a dozen, instead of fighting, fled. Without the help of Russia (volunteers, weapons, humanitarian aid), LDNR would have fallen heroically for a long time. Here is pure math. There are enough bastards everywhere, and if you mathematically calculate the number of mines and shells fired around Donetsk, then the city should have turned into ruins. My friend’s guys from Ukraine live in the country, barely managed to escape from mobilization in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they don’t want to kill their own and fight.
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 20 February 2018 22: 33
            +8
            Without the help of Russia (volunteers, weapons, humanitarian aid) LDNR would have fallen heroically for a long time

            The key word is help. Nobody fought for us, all by ourselves.

            if we mathematically calculate the number of mines and shells fired at Donetsk, then the city should have turned into ruins.

            And if you calculate how much is released in Lugansk? Mathematically? Or in other cities, for example, Pervomaisk?

            Such "NM LNR officers" as you, in Moscow and the Moscow region at least a dime a dozen, instead of fighting, fled.

            There were some, but don’t sign for me. You do not know me.

            My friend’s guys from Ukraine live in the country, barely managed to escape from mobilization in the APU

            Another's soul - darkness. If we had not given such a tough rebuff, who would have guaranteed that they would not have signed up as punishers?
          2. 23424636
            23424636 20 February 2018 22: 35
            +3
            For the idea in Donbass, there are only a few remaining units from hopelessness and poverty - everything is worth it. Who could have ruled out citizenship in Russia? Have remained so-so under 60 and are ready for everything younger. .Wait for help from Russia by the military service ?, It is unlikely that they will be able to get together, Already now it is necessary to establish reserves, both human and military-technical. Explicit gain on the blocks and new caponiers and bunkers were dug and strengthened, this has not been since 15 years. But the main thing is different: Waltzman demands an lasso, and where is his guarantor to the GDP, Russian Ambassador Zurabov, Let him at least serve the country and take the Chaldea black mark.
            1. Sands Careers General
              Sands Careers General 20 February 2018 22: 39
              +7
              Well, of course, from Estonia it is better to know better than ourselves, you’re directly an oracle laughing
              1. 23424636
                23424636 20 February 2018 23: 45
                0
                Came 63 years old cap. The battery commander picked up things and said, “We are slaughtered sheep, we are 8 against us battalion.” Need details ...
          3. Serg koma
            Serg koma 21 February 2018 09: 06
            0
            Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
            My friend’s guys from Ukraine live in the country, barely managed to escape from mobilization in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they don’t want to kill their own and fight.

            They are here, where the "sunny side and central heating" say will go home to bring money another "legend" will sing.
      2. gerkost2012
        gerkost2012 20 February 2018 21: 34
        +11
        This division into “good APUs” and bad national battalions has been heard more and more often. . And this is fundamentally wrong, who suddenly began to fence off? All of them, who are on the other side of the killer front, are not humanists! . Kiev has no independent national battalions operating independently, all of them are part of the National Guard and are subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs Avakov, they receive not a lot of money and security from there. Ideas should be paid well and in Kiev they understand this. For two days now, there has been a massacre in the Svetlodar arc region, from there they are beating everything, together and under the same command! Anyone who wishes, we ask you to visit a tour, at least listen to the "music of war."
      3. Serg koma
        Serg koma 21 February 2018 08: 59
        0
        Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
        A lot of volunteers will want to beat Bandera rabble, and if they still adopt the PMC law, then for 150 tr a month to reach the English Channel.

        Do you express these “thoughts” as a volunteer or investor?
    4. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 21 February 2018 02: 45
      0
      I damn it was always interesting, who brave couch warriors for all authorized to speak? what do we mean we will hang? want to be an executioner - for God's sake, but others do not need to write under this matter
  2. Dmitry Belovetsky
    Dmitry Belovetsky 20 February 2018 19: 21
    +15
    Change. do not change the name of the ATO - all the same, the Bosko militias are turned away.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 20 February 2018 19: 31
      +4
      Yes, with your mouth .. God forbid, of course .. Didn’t you notice that the APU recovered and strengthened? And three years ago, each next operation for the militia went on tighter and tighter? Debaltseve example ..
      Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky
      Change. do not change the name of the ATO - all the same, the Bosko militias are turned away.
    2. Cananecat
      Cananecat 21 February 2018 00: 41
      0
      I ask you to prepare me the candidacy of the commander of the combined forces
      Decide the lads which of you will be the scapegoat ... laughing
  3. taiga2018
    taiga2018 20 February 2018 19: 22
    +2
    then April-May, it’ll get warmer, the roads will dry up, we have just the post-election state, Putin would not want to start a new term with a sharp aggravation of relations with the West ...
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 20 February 2018 19: 28
      +3
      Republics will not be limited! This is not the case, this is the beginning of a war against our country!
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 20 February 2018 19: 30
        +1
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Republics will not be limited!

        think Crimea? Well then, yes, no one can sit on the priest exactly ...
      2. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 20 February 2018 20: 14
        +4
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Republics will not be limited! This is not the case, this is the beginning of a war against our country!

        Do not panic, those who wanted to attack Russia in all centuries stood in line, but the result was one. Now there are no less who want, but be afraid. You just need to strengthen the army and not relax, the liberals who are like for "peace" and disarmament drive rags described, but rather shoot. The main thing is not to repeat Gorbachev's perestroika and Yeltsin’s democracy.
        1. gerkost2012
          gerkost2012 20 February 2018 21: 40
          0
          At different times, the results were different for Russia, right up to the defeats. For example, the Crimean War, Russian-Japanese, the campaign of the Red Army in Warsaw ...
      3. gm9019
        gm9019 20 February 2018 20: 52
        +1
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Republics will not be limited! This is not the case, this is the beginning of the war against our country

        No wonder the US ships entered the Black Sea, not for nothing ...
    2. shinobi
      shinobi 20 February 2018 19: 31
      +1
      But non-fact, quite even. I recall 08.08.08go the same similar statements were.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 20 February 2018 19: 34
        +1
        Quote: shinobi
        08.08.08

        there, nevertheless, our peacekeepers came under fire ...
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  5. Selin Andrey
    Selin Andrey 20 February 2018 19: 24
    +3
    Fuh .. Well signed - and you can roll ...
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 20 February 2018 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Selin Andrey
      Fuh .. Well signed - and you can roll ...

      On the contrary, if he didn’t roll, then he would not sign! fellow
  6. Wolka
    Wolka 20 February 2018 19: 24
    +3
    I think everything will be decided back in March
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 20 February 2018 19: 33
    +2
    Fuh, rolled, and now find the headquarters in which they know sho and how will it be?
    And we can immediately to the fortuneteller, Schaub do not waste time in vain?
  8. shinobi
    shinobi 20 February 2018 19: 34
    +1
    Well, everything went to this. But I think it will be the last offensive.
  9. izya top
    izya top 20 February 2018 19: 36
    +3
    and did you hold the parade for bottles, Napoleonenko?
  10. K-50
    K-50 20 February 2018 19: 40
    +1
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko said he was waiting for the shortest time, until April 1, of proposals from the head of the Ministry of Defense of the country to change the format of the military operation in Donbass

    Campaign in the spring will be a cool batch. sad
    Nick ghouls do not rest, all blood hunger !!! am
  11. Alexey N
    Alexey N 20 February 2018 19: 47
    0
    Putin instructed to change the format of Poroshenko.
  12. Slovak
    Slovak 20 February 2018 19: 48
    +3
    Of course, after all, on April 1, "April Fool's Day"
  13. kriwo.alek
    kriwo.alek 20 February 2018 20: 39
    +1
    Everyone knew about this for a long time. After all, it is very beneficial for the United States when the Slavs fight among themselves.
    In this case, "until the last Ukrainian." To gain a foothold in Ukraine. This am not
    dreamed about.
  14. muhomor
    muhomor 20 February 2018 21: 03
    +2
    Yes, nothing will happen either in April or in May. Pyotr Alekseevich will introduce martial law and aggravate the situation (having blamed you know who you are) before his election. In order not to be re-elected.
  15. Govorun
    Govorun 20 February 2018 21: 09
    0
    Poroshenko ordered to change the format "ATO"
    ATO in ZhePeO?
  16. Berkut-UA
    Berkut-UA 20 February 2018 21: 36
    +1
    I understand that dill-Sumerian militants will begin military operations immediately after March 10 .... on the eve of the elections in Russia. The main task is to disrupt the elections and do everything possible so that the elections are not recognized in other countries.
    And how many citizens of the very nenki have been killed .... nobody cares.
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 21 February 2018 09: 14
      0
      Quote: Berkut-UA
      . The main task is to disrupt the elections and do everything possible so that the elections are not recognized in other countries.

      Do not recognize what? What is it for us, whether to live with "grief"? laughing At the time of hostilities, with the aggression of other countries, elections are not held - postponed until "better times"
  17. Flyer_64
    Flyer_64 20 February 2018 21: 57
    0
    Petya Vova reassured, until April 1, the type will not fight. I forgot, however, on the first of April they don’t believe anyone.
  18. Gato
    Gato 20 February 2018 22: 05
    0
    Come on! Let's see until 2019. And there is either the law, or this donkey, or ...
  19. Gato
    Gato 20 February 2018 22: 11
    +1
    Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
    then Russia will help

    Cheto pisses she helps. Crimea is possible, but Donbass is not?
    1. Gato
      Gato 20 February 2018 22: 16
      +1
      Or will there be less sansctions? But there will definitely be no war. Like in the Crimea.
  20. Lexus
    Lexus 20 February 2018 23: 08
    +4
    Not long to wait for the "Belly incident" from Svidomo. Already on what, but on this they have already "filled their hand."

    It remains only to "sign" NATO for itself.
  21. Kerensky
    Kerensky 21 February 2018 00: 15
    0
    How much is heard. There they were already buried in the ground, surrounded by MONKs and not only .... Mannerheim Line, damn it! Who is the first to storm? When each bush is shot, the attackers will lose 30: 1
    Well, a little distraction: "The worst weapon of the Chinese is a battle rake. On the night before the attack, hundreds of thousands of Chinese sappers lay them in the direction of the strike."
    We are bad! Pen - a piece of paper and figured. If "hundreds of thousands", then take two. Each sapper carries a dozen rakes. The width of the breakthrough is several kilometers, ... depth .. In general, our imagination is rich!
  22. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 February 2018 00: 53
    0
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine will simply run into the next “stars” and roll back to lick their wounds ... GDP distinctly and clearly said - Donbass WILL NOT BE GIVEN TO “CRUSH”. Though jump all in chorus ...
  23. Ye hua
    Ye hua 21 February 2018 03: 16
    +1
    Our lost little brother Taiwan is much smarter than your sister Ukraine
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 21 February 2018 03: 47
      0
      Who would doubt that
  24. LeonidL
    LeonidL 21 February 2018 03: 46
    0
    April Fools Day Petyunchik Poproshenko's joke
  25. sgr291158
    sgr291158 21 February 2018 06: 02
    +1
    A nasty drunk is preparing for a big war.