90's lesson: Thousands of new plants are being built in Russia

After the failed 90-x, when thousands of factories and factories were closed in the country, the domestic industry is experiencing a revival. This is noticeable even to the naked eye.

Over the past 5 years, more than 1,5 thousands of enterprises of various sizes have opened in Russia. But in the next five years even more production facilities will be built. Experts estimate that at least 2 thousand, with investment volumes from 300 million to 1 trillion rubles.

The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas. It is understandable - the arrangement of new deposits in the Arctic, due to its climatic conditions, requires large investments. One of them will be the new Arctic gas liquefaction plant Arctic LNG-2, which will be more powerful than the recently launched Yamal LNG. The volume of investment in the project will be 580 billion rubles.

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[Chichikov]

Only “all the prowlers” who appear here like the Prussians do not see this — one threw the comment “Sentry, everything was lost ...” and provided “the joy of communication” for fellow minds!

[New Year day]

Quote: Chichikov

"all weeds"

people are divided into categories: "all-crawler" and "blind believers." Between them is a layer of "reading and thinking"

[Chichikov]

Quote: Silvestr

people are divided into categories: "all-crawler" and "blind believers." Between them is a layer of "reading and thinking"

Thinking - thinking!
This, like the average salary, is 100 for the minister, 000 for the worker. The average is 20. So, here they are building where there is the corresponding infrastructure and staff! Or do you think that a new plant needs to be built in the village of Tmutarakan, then the appropriate infrastructure (energy resources, etc.) should be built, then, to increase the population of the village, to the staff’s needs of the plant, build universities, educate the population in technical literacy and Ur, the plant was built and started to work!
So, the conclusions should be average, and not based on the village of Tmutarakan!

[New Year day]

Quote: Chichikov

Or do you think

I believe that if they build new plants, that’s good. But I also consider how this affected the labor market, the incomes of citizens. If all the income from the new plant went into the owner’s pocket, then what good is this country?

[Chichikov]

Quote: Silvestr

I believe that if they build new plants, that’s good. But I also consider how this affected the labor market, the incomes of citizens.

And the construction of a new plant, in your opinion, does not affect the labor market, incomes of the population ... If I didn’t have a job yesterday, but now I have it, is this a sign of a fall in the economy and incomes of the population? To put it mildly - a funny economic conclusion! If at all, economic!

[New Year day]

Quote: Chichikov

And the construction of a new plant, in your opinion, does not affect the labor market, the incomes of the population ... If I didn’t have a job yesterday, but now I have it, is this a sign of a fall in the economy and incomes of the population?

you yourself answered my question

Quote: Silvestr

But I also consider how this affected the labor market, incomes of citizens

just specify in numbers, not emotions!
It will be specifics, not empty words.

[Chichikov]

Quote: Silvestr

It will be specifics, not empty words.

Your attempt to argue your arguments is, - idle talk!

[New Year day]

Quote: Chichikov

Your attempt to argue your arguments is, - idle talk!

figures in the studio! idle talk is just what you are moving.
By the way. Read the report of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation for 2017, I think the numbers will impress you. There you will find the answer to your idle talk

[Moore]

Quote: Silvestr

If all the income from the new plant went into the owner’s pocket, then what is the use of this country?

1. RFP workers and, accordingly, personal income tax.
2. Taxes with payroll, payments to insurance and pension funds, FFOMS.
3. Income taxes.
4. Property taxes, land taxes, transport taxes, etc.
The fantasy that the entrepreneur does not pay anything of this will be left for Sobchak's meetings.

[New Year day]

Quote: Moore

The fantasy that the entrepreneur does not pay anything of this will be left for Sobchak's meetings.

Do you deny offshore? Interesting! How do you comment on this?
Currently, Cyprus has become the main offshore zone for Russian businessmen. According to experts, about one billion dollars is monthly transferred from Russia to this island and to other countries. For example, Rosneft, according to official figures, has 11 subsidiaries registered in jurisdictions with preferential taxation and offshore, of which 5 in Cyprus, 1 in the Netherlands, 1 in Ireland, 1 in the UK, 1 in Luxembourg and 2 on about. Jersey. Another example is the Russian Technologies company, some of whose assets are located abroad. The owners of Domodedovo are offshore.
Or Sobchachka for all these persons alone should blow off?

[Moore]

Quote: Silvestr

Do you deny offshore? Interesting! How do you comment on this?

No need to make any statement for me, and then I have to offer to prove it.
You have been shown that the state and the employee have a new venture. The state wants to have more - no questions, encourage owners to withdraw dough from offshore. Actually, as the events in Cyprus have shown, our “partners” are sometimes more convincing in measures to return money to the Russian Federation.

[New Year day]

Quote: Moore

No need to make any statement for me

I'm asking! It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines. Money is withdrawn and there are no obstacles to this.

[vkfriendly]

Enough to send about displays and everything was gone. For some time, money has been returned
http://www.forbes.ru/finansy-i-investicii/357537-
dengi-na-rodinu-kompanii-pereveli-v-rossiyu-anoma
lnyy-obem-value-iz-za

[free]

Quote: Moore

Quote: Silvestr

Do you deny offshore? Interesting! How do you comment on this?

No need to make any statement for me, and then I have to offer to prove it.
You have been shown that the state and the employee have a new venture. The state wants to have more - no questions, encourage owners to withdraw dough from offshore. Actually, as the events in Cyprus have shown, our “partners” are sometimes more convincing in measures to return money to the Russian Federation.

Or maybe it would be better if all the new plants were state owned !?

[passerby]

Who is better?

[free]

Quote: passerby

Who is better?

The people are better.

[passerby]

The people in 1991 have already made their choice.

[Valery Saitov]

According to experts, about one billion dollars is transferred from Russia every month to this island and to other countries.)))
What kind of experts? And where do they sit and by what criteria do they consider? And why a billion, and even bucks? In general, the Eureka go to the EU, so why should they keep money in bucks.
Oh what’s happening, they dug a trench yesterday, so they dug up two cognac jets ...
And today they poisoned the water with moonshine, but now the bread is from fish scales ...

[vlad007]

Quote: Silvestr

Currently, Cyprus has become the main offshore zone for Russian businessmen.

Yes, but also the main INVESTOR is Cyprus. In Cyprus, they derive income from existing industries and then invest in new industries. Withdrawal of capital is inevitable if the investor is abroad. There is nothing wrong with the withdrawal of capital, this is normal.

[shoemaker]

Most enterprises in the city where I live are registered in the cities of Moscow, Tyumen and St. Petersburg. Accordingly, taxes are paid there. And after that they tell me that my city and my region are subsidized. How can there be a subsidized region in which uranium is mined?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: shoemaker

Most enterprises in the city where I live are registered in the cities of Moscow, Tyumen and St. Petersburg.

AvtoVAZ is registered in St. Petersburg!

[passerby]

PITs are paid at the place of payment of salaries, i.e. in your region, land tax and property tax at the location of land and property. What is the difference where the organization is registered, it is important where it actually operates.

[dima9990]

5. VAT, just the income of the region where the company is located.

[Looking for]

Ah. "Poor. Poor" master. He lives in poverty, not like his oppressors, wage workers

[Jora 2]

But what about taxes, the purchase of fuels and lubricants, electric energy, goods at the same end, well, the salary in the end. If in the West all the income after all the necessary deductions goes to the capitalist, this is normal, but if we have it all is a disaster

[perm23]

Well, the country is good. And what do you propose universal nationalization, the prohibition of private property. And the labor market will be the market. he who can sell his skills and knowledge will sell, he who cannot. So it is with income. And what you do not like about the income. All cities are crammed with cars. So there is something to buy and maintain.

[Alexander Ra]

For perm23 (05:34): ... "labor market", "sell your own", "clogged with cars" - myopic naivety. With the "endangered" type of Russian reproduction boasting about clogged cars? ... "you propose universal nationalization" - 95% of the largest enterprises in Russia - in foreign jurisdictions - are you or your country? ... "who can sell his skills and knowledge he will sell ..." - why such a mercantile conformism? Beer, brain, what else to mix?

[Dukat22]

normal use, pay taxes in Russia and convince him not to withdraw money from profit, but use it in your country for future investments, programs, incomes ....... this is a whole re-education of people

[free]

Quote: Dukat22

normal use, pay taxes in Russia and convince him not to withdraw money from profit, but use it in your country for future investments, programs, incomes ....... this is a whole re-education of people

Russia needs to be written with a capital letter! And about 17 years of persuasion they are convinced that it doesn’t work, the methods seem to be wrong! Or maybe the persuaders do not sincerely convince. Meanwhile, money flows over the hill and people are impoverished.

[kotvov]

That's it, the owners of these factories, or foreigners, or our, our former. Income will go abroad.

[Valery Saitov]

And 40 billion bucks of the party also lay behind the hill. Nothing changes.

[passerby5]

have you heard about taxes? they are subject to income. that’s all the good for the country. something like that (well, except for employment and related social obligations)

[Vlad Morozov]

People will go to Tmutarakan! There is work, there is growth!

[Viktor77]

The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas ...

Not every Tmutarakan has gas or oil deposits, but the main thing is to PRODUCE "nishtyakov" from the bowels. What plants are we talking about then?

[vkfriendly]

About these, which are being built. http://rus.vrw.ru/category/manufacture the main thing is to look at the numbers when it is launched. Every month, 3-5 new enterprises are launched in Russia

[free]

Only they will first have to compare salaries and prices in the darkness.

[the most important]

Quote: Chichikov

So, the conclusions should be average, and not based on the village of Tmutarakan!

We begin to count and draw conclusions: 1500 factories in 5 years, let each have 500 people !! Total 750 new jobs in 000 years! Compare with the United States, where over 5 months of 11, 2017 new jobs were created. Feel the difference? in 1 years let it be 900 million and 000 million per year ??? But some people before the last election promised 5 million new high-tech jobs! And it turned out 1 times less .... You can continue to throw the bonnet into the air from happiness and admire how good everything is!

[Chichikov]

Quote: the most important

Compare with the United States, where over 11 months of 2017, 1 new jobs were created. Feel the difference?

In the wrong hands .... I don’t know where you are "the most important", but look at the statistics of the 90s and the current one! You can present "iron arguments" - but first, take a look at the history of the Great American Depression of the 30s! So Russia, still being selected, from the "Great Russian Depression" of the 90s! Which was led not by the capitalists, but by the Partigenigenosse from the CPSU!

[the most important]

You do not leave the topic! We compare the last 5 years. What was promised and what is in reality. And what are the results in other countries. And if you look at the statistics of India and China and compare in proportion to the population, the comparison will be even more terrible. World economic growth over the same period 3,5 - 3,7% per year, And where is Russia? Treading water on the spot: either recession .. then stagnation ... then "rapid growth" of 1%. I will tell you: Russia's GDP for 2017 is 1132,7 billion dollars! It was promised by the same person before the election that the country would enter the 5 world in terms of GDP. A country in fact in 17th place !! and its share of global GDP is only 2,49%. Here's what we have learned how to produce well, so it’s noodles on the ears ... demand creates supply .. Learn to look at everything critically and check everything that the TV says according to independent statistics.

[Chichikov]

Quote: the most important

You do not leave the topic! We compare the last 5 years.

Do not swim in the history of the effects of the economic downturn!
I suggest that you compare the last five years in the USA, at the end of the 30s, after the depression and the last five years, in Russia, after the 90s!

[the most important]

Quote: Chichikov

I suggest that you compare the last five years in the USA, at the end of the 30s, after the depression and the last five years, in Russia, after the 90s!

Today statistics caught my eye that since 2011 in Russia 11200000 jobs have been REDUCED !!!! Here are the guys frolic with their reforms !!! Indispensable is ours !! So when you watch TV, do not forget to get up and clap loudly, while experiencing a feeling of deep satisfaction from the fact that everyone is considered not smart people.

[KVP1]

After the 90s, not 5 years passed, but 17. Let's compare Russia with the USSR for 17 years 1924-1941 and 2000-2017, what changes were in the 20th century after the most severe war and devastation and which in the 21st.

[free]

The staff of the Ministry of Emergencies was reduced by 20%, the police also seemed to be 20%, is there work for these people? Many of them almost had literally 2-3 years to retire, it’s hard to get a job, especially if you are 40 and above.
Where are these 1,5 factories? What are their salaries? Who is the owner of the state or the oligarchs (built from the budget or the money of oligarchs)? The share of foreign participation in them? You will have to pay for investments all the time while this plant is working, they will take more than invested.)

[Vadim237]

In Russia, in general, GDP is measured in rubles - not dollars.

[evgenii67]

aaaaa in RUBLES ?! Well, in rubles, then Russia's GDP is much more than in dollars, already 56,5 times more (as of 21.02.18)

[Vadim237]

Because you are in the store and everywhere pay in rubles. In rubles, Russia's GDP in 2017 amounted to 92 trillion.

[Blackmokona]

When the Ruble fell, for some reason all prices went up sharply. Surprising yes? What is the matter of ruble to the dollar.

[Vadim237]

Not surprisingly, oil prices fell and the budget needed money to compensate for the fall, because otherwise our budget deficit would not be 1 trillion, but 2,5 with all that it implies - curtailing and reducing all programs, including the rearmament of the army .

[New Year day]

Quote: Chichikov

but look at the statistics of the 90s and the current one!

remember the campaign promises of GDP!

[Chichikov]

Not to me, an excursion into history! This is for you, to headquarters for Sobchak and other candidates - the saviors of Russia!

[HDZ]

An idle talk.

[New Year day]

Quote: Chichikov

This is for you, to headquarters for Sobchak and other candidates - the saviors of Russia!

And Titov? Or are you locked in a lady?

[free]

Quote: Chichikov

Not to me, an excursion into history! This is for you, to headquarters for Sobchak and other candidates - the saviors of Russia!

Who does it mean that he criticizes power that traitor at once, so what?

[perm23]

or maybe it’s time to stop looking at the USA and the West all the time. and be at home and work. One country was ruined looking west. There, too, things are not so simple and folding. and one must not admire and not cry, but simply live.

[passerby5]

Well this is statistics. heard: there is truth, there is a lie, but there are statistics. 5-7 years ago, in order to reduce the official number of unemployed (in Russia), in the work center for self-employment they started issuing couples in the region of 30tyr. so I won’t say it for everyone, but we have 30 percent of the original number left unemployed. they are of course prosral who bought a refrigerator. someone geese, etc. but! decrease by as much as 70 !!! percent. something tells me that there is something the same way

[Valery Saitov]

... let there be 500 people)))
Do you like swimming small or love the USA?
Yamal LNG implemented an integrated approach to the project of a Russian gas producing company. In Sabetta, a tiny settlement of the local Nenets people, the first shift workers appeared in 1980. But the development of the village and the surrounding territories received only with the development of the project. They began to build a seaport, a gas liquefaction plant, a modern Sabetta airport and the Sabetta village itself, where more than 20 thousand people already live. - Read more on FB.ru: http://fb.ru/article/367419/otzyivyi-yamal-spg-ro
ssiyskaya-gazodobyivayuschaya-kompaniya
Now try to look for data on some plants and understand how you made a mistake.

[Serge]

You know how to compare the thread except the digits? You know on the fence like in the newspapers and there’s a lot where the word of three letters is written! And you look there is nothing! I don’t know about your numbers, but what’s the reality it’s just what they’re looking for behind the fence! More precisely, in fact, NOTHING GOOD

[Dedall]

Mr. Chichikovand how then to explain the complete collapse of the existing factories in the city of Novocherkassk, where I have the honor to live. We still have one doing something electric locomotive factory, but its employees are waiting for the closure from day to day. But how much was still. For example, the Magnit factory, which produced permanent magnets of all varieties. And there was also the Synthetic Materials Plant, producing dozens of chemical synthesis products from methyl alcohol to isovinylpyrralidone and lavsan. Closed even those so dear to the heart of every peasant Liqueur-Vodka Plant and two wineries along with the Research Institute of Viticulture and Winemaking.
In short, a lot of things were, but safely collapsed by the current shit and managers, But the city is located just at the intersection of transport routes near the sea and in the presence of a circle of qualified personnel. Well, now all this can be restored only by a miracle, well, or the arrival of Stalin and Beria.

[passerby5]

and here is an example for you too (well, in the sense of how to explain it): I live in the countryside. So, there were 11 households in the area. Well or not, they survived badly 5. so: one thing - in the leaders in the republic. milk yield-in social time-and did not dream. livestock - 3 times more than Soviet times. yields up to 40 centners receive (stably). in Soviet times, 25 you are already a hero. The predecessor, the very last (well, if you do not take lazy people and drunkards) built himself a new house. And in the neighboring ones, on the contrary, first of all, the forefathers built houses for themselves. At the expense of the economy, essno. Conclusion? there must be a master, but not a grabber. Well, the specialist, of course, with a team of specialists. And then how one got angry, I arrive in Yekaterinburg, and there is our milk. Well, what are the costs, and so on. I ask, have you bought milk? at normal cost? with cost recovery plus profit? Yes. so I ask - what a nah. difference to you, even if they pour it at the threshold !!! yes, he says ... But what are the costs .... these are our specialties, and not only in agriculture. And after all, they are still sitting. In the EdR and in the governing bodies ... this is how we live ... ku

[Titus]

Someone is eating meat ... someone is cabbage, according to statistics, we have some stuffed cabbage. All this is not very objective

[Gennady Epeykin]

I think it is necessary to build in Moscow. After 5 years, the population of Moscow will be 145 lyamov.

[Setrac]

Quote: Chichikov

This is, as the average salary, the minister has 100, the worker 000. The average is 20.

Use other people's idiotic comparisons - this becomes one level with the quoted idiots. Do you seriously think that in Russia the number of ministers and workers is the same?

[Mordvin 3]

And it hurts a lot of seven with a spoon that sit on the neck of one with a bipod.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Mordvin 3

on the neck of one with a bipod.

where are they juicy?

[Mordvin 3]

Yes, everywhere.

[Looking for]

But ONE !!!! a renegade minister can harm the welfare of hundreds of thousands of workers.

[Setrac]

Quote: Seeker

But ONE !!!! a renegade minister can harm the welfare of hundreds of thousands of workers.

Of course, you are right in discussing harm, but it was about average wages.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Setrac

Do you seriously think that in Russia the number of ministers and workers is the same?

I agree with you! however, where does such a salary come from ???

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Silvestr

people are divided into categories: "all-crawler" and "blind believers."

Inspired by:
"Spartak, I have long wanted to tell you - people in the world are divided into two categories: some are sitting on pipes, while others need money ... you are sitting on a pipe." V. Tsoi (Moro from cf. "Needle") To this day, it is relevant.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Silvestr

Between them is a layer of "reading and thinking"

there is undoubtedly an interlayer, but there are also thick layers of gray mass that do not understand consumers who drive tough foreign cars and are well-tanned in Turkey and Thailand.

[Artek]

By 2030, Russia should become one of the poorest countries in the world - this is a forecast from the Ministry of Economic Development. In Russia, not only the economy is destroyed, but also fundamental, academic science and applied science. So we all vote for the existing stability.
The economist Boldyrev tells how we live well.
https://youtu.be/PG_DFTW2xSQ

[Vadim237]

With academic and applied science, everything is fine - half is now private, on its own initiative, without a state feeder.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vadim237

With academic and applied science, everything is fine - half is now private, on its own initiative

On their own initiative, it is easier and faster for them to run across the whole laboratory to California (as many did in the mid-90s and later) and create there.

[Vadim237]

And you imagine they don’t want to run across - since they have been living here for a long time and understand what is there - in California, no one is waiting for them, since there are enough of them.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vadim237

Can you imagine they don’t want to run across

Whether you want or not, the harsh Russian realities will sooner or later make you think about it.

Quote: Vadim237

in California, no one is waiting for them, since there are enough of them.

If a particular organization has really interesting projects and a bunch of publications, then they are also waiting for how. From the same Far Eastern Branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences in the 90s-2000s, a lot of people moved there and are working successfully.

Quote: Vadim237

as its enough

Qualified specialists and scientists are always welcome there, it’s not just another manager or “businessman-huckster”.

[perm23]

This is the Boldyrev in which the Soviet Union collapsed. another communist who threw his party card to a member of the CPSU

[Artek]

Quote: perm23

This is the Boldyrev in which the Soviet Union collapsed. another communist who threw his party card to a member of the CPSU

Vidio even watched? There, all academics are against what is being done with the academy.

[atakan]

Are these not the academicians who, unlike ordinary citizens, happily voted for the collapse of the USSR?

[passerby5]

change your nickname to: lost111

[Vadim237]

And as they will see - if they do not participate in these constructions in any way - the priority of life is chronic nagging for them - "I have a crop failure in the garden because those at the end of the street are to blame."

[Artek]

Quote: Vadim237

And as they will see - if they do not participate in these constructions in any way - the priority of life is chronic nagging for them - "I have a crop failure in the garden because those at the end of the street are to blame."

and pin_ dos to the moon flew or not? You better about this trend.

[Vadim237]

Oh oh oh - a miscarriage of the system described above - whine on and train in front of the mirror to make it more confident.

[free]

Quote: Vadim237

And as they will see - if they do not participate in these constructions in any way - the priority of life is chronic nagging for them - "I have a crop failure in the garden because those at the end of the street are to blame."

And in your opinion, everyone probably should go to the construction sites at once and quit the rest of the work in order to participate in the construction, right? But the question is, for what sake and who will benefit from it?

[Fedot57]

"The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas." Then you need to say something ....?.

[passerby5]

There is certainly something not very gut that everything is just for production, BUT: have you ever been to an oil field, or objects of preparation, processing, transportation? and so I tell you: everything there is made of metal. which is fastened by welding, bolts. Installed by PEOPLE using special devices. Well, cranes, there, cars (though almost 70 percent are foreign). For what, a hundred, this industry is dragging it all. Please think. and then talk

[Valery Saitov]

But in order to start mining, you also need equipment and materials (pipes, gate valves, electrodes, drilling machines, etc., etc. .... further on yourself, I almost forgot and the NPS will also build heaps, roads and the entire infrastructure for them , villages). Sheikhs do not take a steam bath that is easier to take and their countries live and prosper, but we all think ... how to make pots ourselves.

[All terrain vehicle]

Look around, what is done in your home, in the yard in Russia? It is designed, invented, manufactured in Russia? Here I am about the same thing, and the article explicitly states that the main emphasis is on the extraction of resources and sale abroad. As usual, the bourgeoisie will become richer, the people will become dumber / poorer, it’s easier to control the people ..

[Vadim237]

Four milling machines - produced in Russia, as well as all the equipment for them.

[passerby5]

Well, if you argue like this: an example, the whole vaz is not ours. KAMAZ engines, used to be a Muscovite, there are the first YaMZ, but all is not ours. although it’s considered our radio, television ... well, there’s a lot of other things .... yes, to see how we live and Germany is the same ... one might ask, so who nevertheless won the war? and? something in our state is wrong ... is it really all this communist stand for the whole reason?

[Valery Saitov]

Well done. Previously, there was a plan and there was no emphasis on quality. In the Crocodile Magazine, in all issues, attention was paid to scammers, and even Lenin's article on social competitions said that every 10th of them should be shot.
“In the other, they will put them to clean the toilets. In the third, they will be provided with yellow tickets upon serving the punishment cell, so that the whole people, until they are corrected, will watch over them as if they were harmful people. In the fourth, they will shoot on the spot one out of ten in parasitism. "

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Rider

what do you have in your home, in the yard is done in Russia?

A logistics system for the sale of imported junk has been created in Russia. Everything is thought out in it - from consumer education to the use of raw materials and energy without the involvement of our brains.

[All terrain vehicle]

Quote: Chichikov

Only “all the prowlers” who appear here like the Prussians do not see this — one threw the comment “Sentry, everything was lost ...” and provided “the joy of communication” for fellow minds!

Look around, what is done in your home, in the yard in Russia? It is designed, invented, manufactured in Russia? Here I am about the same thing, and the article explicitly states that the main emphasis is on the extraction of resources and sale abroad. As usual, the bourgeoisie will become richer, the people will become dumber / poorer, it’s easier to control the people.

[misti1973]

Only schizos see what is not! And if you wrote that millions of factories are being built, would you also be led? Sometimes it’s necessary to cut the logic! With what money are these factories being built, what will they produce and where are the sales markets? How to prepare technical staff and who will pay for its training, if plants have not yet been built? No answers, no plants!

[Valery Saitov]

What money are these plants being built ...)))
For oil and gas, as well as grain, and also ... print 200 and 2000 rubles. The government has the right to print 30% of the paper pulp from budget funds.
Two important conclusions follow from the budget constraint of the government. If the state budget deficit is financed by increasing the volume of government bonds in the hands of the population, this does not affect the monetary base and, consequently, the money supply. But if the budget deficit is not financed by the sale of government bonds to the public, the monetary base and money supply increase.

There are several answers to the question why the budget deficit leads to an increase in the monetary base when the volume of government bonds in the hands of the population does not increase. The simplest case is that the state treasury has the legal right to print cash to finance the budget deficit. Then the state simply pays for those expenses that exceed its income with new money. The increase in the amount of cash directly increases the monetary base, along with which the money supply grows by repeatedly creating deposits.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: misti1973

No answers, no plants!

want an answer? You are welcome! - import duties, or a fixed dollar rate. And the plants will be in demand

[Su24]

Sorry, where is industry growth in that case ??

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Chichikov

Only “all the prowlers” who appear here like the Prussians do not see this — one threw the comment “Sentry, everything was lost ...” and provided “the joy of communication” for fellow minds!

I don’t regard myself as all-crawler, but I don’t have much joy from -
= The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas. = Not tested. Do Russian citizens lack oil and gas? Is both the cheapest for them in the world? I would be more pleased with the construction and commissioning of enterprises for the production of innovative equipment. So that we buy domestic PCs, programs for them. And so forth, and so forth, and so forth. We drive oil, gas, timber, etc. minerals abroad without processing them at home. I understand that in a short period, it is impossible to build enterprises for the processing of the same oil, gas, etc. But the desire for this should be seen in the activities of the "party and government." So far, one thing has been observed - to get and sell. All.

[KVP1]

After the 90s, not 5 years passed, but 17. Let's compare Russia with the USSR for 17 years 1924-1941 and 2000-2017, what changes were in the 20th century after the most severe war and devastation and which in the 21st.
"The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas." The goal is to produce and sell abroad for green candy wrappers, which are printed in the United States in unlimited quantities.

[nickname7]

90's lesson: Thousands of new plants are being built in Russia

The largest projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas

[New Year day]

and it's all? But where are the "impressive" numbers and, associated with the creation of new jobs, the growth of welfare of citizens, the elimination of unemployment?
Just somehow childish: a "bunch" and that's it

[Vlad Morozov]

There are no communists in Russia! They even knew how to think industrially. But there is a new and under construction Russia and it is growing! And that's great!

[Serge]

At one time, there were many Communists who were material. Now we select and choose Vova. Here and catch what you are fighting for as they say.

[misti1973]

Well yes! True, what money it is being built is incomprehensible! Residential houses are almost not built, and those that are built are half empty. And this is in St. Petersburg and Moscow! So, if it grows, it is only in your imagination.

[Valery Saitov]

Do you think that only in the USA they print bucks and bonds?
There are several answers to the question why the budget deficit leads to an increase in the monetary base when the volume of government bonds in the hands of the population does not increase. The simplest case is that the state treasury has the legal right to print cash to finance the budget deficit. Then the state simply pays for those expenses that exceed its income with new money. The increase in the amount of cash directly increases the monetary base, along with which the money supply grows by repeatedly creating deposits.

[passerby5]

Yes, yes they are not! they are right now edrintsi. Well, before that, there were still our industry. remember the black-handle pens-house. Do you remember the wedding in the robin? how did grandfather turn his cap around?

[Lieutenant Captain]

Quote: Silvestr

and it's all? But where are the "impressive" numbers and, associated with the creation of new jobs, the growth of welfare of citizens, the elimination of unemployment?

Litter-kissel-tv with pictures and subtitles will tell you about all the achievements. the main thing is to believe in it.

[New Year day]

Quote: Lieutenant Captain

Litter-kissel-tv with pictures and subtitles will tell you about all the achievements, the main thing is to believe in it.

judging by your attack - you look at it. I don’t look like that.

[free]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Lieutenant Captain

Litter-kissel-tv with pictures and subtitles will tell you about all the achievements, the main thing is to believe in it.

judging by your attack - you look at it. I don’t look like that.

So the attack is not in your direction;

[perm23]

and that citizens live poorly or something. have all the Internet .comps. all dressed and shod. cars sea. or what everyone needs yachts and planes

[misti1973]

Bad of course! He was deeply in debt. He bought apartments and cars on credit, but they can’t pay off loans. And not only individuals, companies with loans cannot pay! If this is good, then what is bad?

[passerby5]

say loans ... but you need to service them. and still live. and serve ... and live. I’m not for the fact that everything is amazing, but it’s not all the way, well?

[vladimirvn]

.... "The largest projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas ..."
No comment.

[Pavil144]

That's right, why produce machines, it is better to sell oil and gas and buy machines abroad. That's the whole economy of the last 28 years.

[Valery Saitov]

At present, there are about 100 enterprises in the machine tool industry of Russia. In 2011, it was noted that according to official data of relevant ministries, as part of the machine-tool industry of Russia 46 enterprises producing machine tools, 25 plants specializing in the manufacture of forging equipment, 29 manufacturers of cutting, measuring, fitting and assembly tools, as well as seven scientific research institutes and 45 design offices.

[nickname7]

It turns out all the development is an increase in the extraction of raw materials. This is the usual type of news from the Russian Federation, peppy reports about peeling off an oil needle, and the next story is about a new pipe and well. In fact, mechanical engineering, machine tool engineering should be considered, this is the basis of a high-tech country, but this is very bad.

[Vadim237]

With these, everything is normal, since pipes and everything else related to the production, storage, transportation and refining of oil are engineering.

[New Year day]

Quote: nickname7

It turns out all the development is an increase in the extraction of raw materials

according to the report of the Federal Customs Service, the main income from imports of oil and gas. All.

[arhPavel]

Quote: Silvestr

people are divided into categories: "all-crawler" and "blind believers." Between them is a layer of "reading and thinking"

You will not believe, and they both read and think.
The attitude to any situation depends on the person’s internal attitudes. Practice is the criterion of truth. And with us, in fact, now it is possible to "read and think" to refer to "all the prowlers" IMHO they don’t do a damn ..

[turbris]

Quote: Silvestr

people are divided into categories: "all-crawler" and "blind believers." Between them is a layer of "reading and thinking"

You forgot about another category called "critics", who consider themselves reading and thinking, only in terms of finding faults and enjoy it, of course, without offering anything, the whole mind goes to a collection about generalizing faults.

[New Year day]

Quote: turbris

You forgot about another category called "critics,"

"stupid people like to be flattered. Smart people like to be criticized."
Frederic Begbeder

[perm23]

Because as he said. Stalin. You criticize - offer. Suggest - do it. and you do - answer. And nobody wants to answer.

[turbris]

This is a worthy answer to Frederick Begbeder, by the way, who is that? I know Stalin, but this Frederick - not really, what should I listen to him? Or was Stalin smarter?

[New Year day]

Quote: turbris

Or was Stalin smarter?

no doubt! But he is not there!

[New Year day]

Quote: perm23

And nobody wants to answer.

I am responsible for my site. Above me, the Investigative Committee, the prosecutor's office, you will not get sick.
Is power in front of us? the answer is negative

[free]

Quote: perm23

Because as he said. Stalin. You criticize - offer. Suggest - do it. and you do - answer. And nobody wants to answer.

So offering the sea, only the government does not listen to them. Power wants to continue living in the sweetness for her not leisure!

[HEATHER]

Thousands are under construction! Another reduction is coming to our MCC. Dead reactors and spent fuel storage pools. Looks like the porch of Zheleznogorsk. NPO PM breathes in an orderly fashion. While there is an order for 3 heavy satellites. Further continuous fog.

[Some kind of compote]

The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas.

Over 25 years, a high-tech state has turned into a raw materials appendage
Let's hope that something really changes in the future.

[perm23]

and when we were high-tech, in some industries, yes. and in some places there were machines from Germany. We have always had a very energy-intensive production. and yes there were thousands of tractors. but for some reason we did not buy them, but bought imports. Kaki themselves were looking for imported clothes. As now, we buy imported cars, not ours. Lada

[Sarmat149]

They turned into a raw materials appendage immediately after perestroika under the EBN, by the way was a communist, but distort))

[Some kind of compote]

I also think that there was a high-tech period in the history of the USSR
Ocean Fleet, space, modern aviation (and not only military).
By the way, you can remember the Lada, and you can Victory

[Valery Saitov]

By the way, you can remember the Lada, and you can also Victory ... yeah, also remember Zaporozhets ...

[steelmaker]

If over 5 years 1,5 thousand enterprises were built, then why did GDP grow by 0,7-1,5%? What is the use of constructed enterprises if traveling to Turkey is cheaper than to Crimea? No need to steal! As long as Dimon and Putin rule, it will not be easier for us!

[Vadim237]

These enterprises will need several years to achieve self-sufficiency and GDP grows by 2 - 3,5% every year.

[kotvov]

and GDP is growing every year by 2 - 3,5%. ,,
Well, yes, the people grow ears to hang noodles on them, and the oligarchs have incomes to bring to the west.

[Vadim237]

And what oligarchs do for you - your life will not change if they withdraw less - no matter how.

[r4space]

Well, nobody canceled the laws of the economy of consumption. The withdrawal of money from the economy by the oligarch means that this money will ultimately not return in the form of public sector salaries and pensions.

[Valery Saitov]

In fact, we all take money out of the economy by withdrawing the cash that many people have in packs at home (even pensioners in the nest keep cash).

[free]

Quote: Vadim237

And what oligarchs do for you - your life will not change if they withdraw less - no matter how.

Oh how! You are not an oligarch by chance?

[ZVO]

Why do not I see vacancies for these plants in my region ????
Some fives. magnets and other heresy ...

[Vadim237]

Are they being built in your region?

[perm23]

we will build a new chemical plant

[Valery Saitov]

Work Factories in Russia: 26 vacancies are from the Internet.
Jobs factories - 480 jobs in Omsk (I'm from Omsk).
Work at the factory in Omsk
Jobs found: 1 Average salary: 264 rubles.

[Serge]

Chistyakov, etc. company, you are clowns. Neighing reading komenty. In 1x resource-producing factories are being built. And how it is not known. It is necessary to study the labor market and are there any factories other than paper on Vova.zp in the north right now 70-80k wooden. This is so little. Otherwise 30-40k per month. Our resources go abroad (even the Yankees take out gas by tankers and then push them to the geyropu) Well, take a look and analyze our industry! That's where the country's raw material base should go and not over the hill. We are all in deep OPE, in this regard!

[Forever so]

After the destruction of 70 enterprises of the USSR, which gave the population work and the opportunity for the USSR to compete with all the Western worlds, whatever the liberals might say about the WRONG ECONOMY of the USSR, the construction of several thousand enterprises owned by foreigners is not even funny.

[Vadim237]

And in what did the USSR compete with the Western world? - Certainly not in the automotive industry, cybernetics, electronics, mechanical engineering - since all this was backward, it does not matter what to let out - the main thing to let out and give out to half the world - you live great. And then they were surprised - "And that we all release it, but elementary in everyday necessities - we find only by acquaintance.

[kamski]

Hello! The USSR was the second producer of MACHINES in the world; these machines were exported to more than 50 countries of the world. Including Western Europe and North America. The USSR was an advanced aviation industry, rocket industry, etc. The USSR was an advanced SCIENCE, the USSR was an advanced medicine and education, etc. What did SUCCESSFUL rulers in the new Russia for 30 years ??? Nothing but total lies and plunder of the country ... one NEGATIVE

[perm23]

we sold machines to Japan for 3 million rubles and bought 55 million rubles. In 1986, 67% of the USSR's foreign trade was accounted for by the socialist camp states. so that not everything was so smooth even then. but the reformers came. privatization and private property.

[passerby5]

Yes Yes. they just melted these machines, they made CNC machines from them, and we bought them for 55.

[Vadim237]

Most of the institutes of the factories and design bureaus worked for the defense industry - they supplied machines, yes a lot, but for the most part in support of friendly states on credit - which was not necessary to give, and the machines themselves were technically yesterday, and the USSR ordered new equipment abroad. "In the USSR there was advanced science, the USSR was advanced medicine" - Yes, yes, yes, with all the super-sophistication, they could not make a thermal imager, an MRI, even a horseradish measuring instrument. What the SUCCESSFUL rulers in the new Russia have done in 30 years "- That's it, now we have our own production of thermal imagers, MRI, other medical devices, modern machines and everything else in abundance - all that could not be obtained before. And half the world, on freebie, we no longer feed.

[r4space]

Assembling from finished parts was never considered to be our own production. Should a war with China occur, we will not be able to assemble a single modern tank. We’ll soon have no bearings of our own

[Vadim237]

We have many who produce bearings, including my production, plain bearings with a diameter of 3 mm to 30 centimeters - to order. Machines in Russia are assembled with increasing localization of production, I prefer German - Japanese DMG - much better than Chinese, both in quality and productivity, and yes in Russia they are assembled in Ulyanovsk.

[Valery Saitov]

At present, there are about 100 enterprises in the machine tool industry of Russia. In 2011, it was noted that according to official data of relevant ministries, as part of the machine-tool industry of Russia 46 enterprises producing machine tools, 25 plants specializing in the manufacture of forging equipment, 29 manufacturers of cutting, measuring, fitting and assembly tools, as well as seven scientific research institutes and 45 design offices.

[Brutan]

Over the past 5 years, more than 1,5 thousand enterprises of various sizes have opened in Russia.

Can I have a closer look at the regions and industries?

[kamski]

I know for sure that in the Kaluga region they built one factory for the production of FOAM BLOCKS. The owner there says Seagull !!!

[perm23]

You would listen to less OBS.

[Brutan]

Class
General practically
the prosecutor!

[perm23]

Type in a search engine. how many factories are built in Russia. there you will see everything. so for example. January 20 - a new production site of ChKZ (Chelyabinsk Compressor Plant) was commissioned in Chelyabinsk. February 10 - in the city of Novotroitsk, Orenburg Region, the launch of a new enterprise, Nsplav LLC, for the production of innovative products, was launched. April 13 - in the city of Kurgan, the first stage of LLC Kurgan Drilling Units Plant was opened. The company produces heavy-duty mobile drilling rigs. April 25 - in Rybinsk, Yaroslavl region. Rostec commissioned the first assembly and testing complex of ship assemblies in the Russian Federation on the basis of the Rybinsk enterprise NPO Saturn, which is part of the United Engine Corporation. May 22 - in Khimki, Moscow Region The production of high-performance supercapacitors and modules based on them by TEEMP LLC (part of the ROTEC holding) was launched. May 29 - Production of large-diameter pipes for Gazprom was launched in the Sergiev Posad district of the Moscow region. May 31 - in St. Petersburg -Petersburg Power Machines and Linde launched the production of spiral heat exchangers for natural gas liquefaction and processing plants. It is the world's third largest natural gas liquefaction plant manufacturing facility. The first production of the joint venture will be made this year and is intended for the Gazprom Amur gas processing plant under construction. The plant will become the largest enterprise in the industry in Russia and will include the largest scale production of helium in the world.

[r4space]

From the new here, 2 or 3 the rest is the modernization of the old under a new sign ....

[passerby5]

Yes, even if modernization is no longer bad. as much as possible with the help of a sledgehammer and such and such a mother. and I have a number of free economic zones "and ALLABUGA" that no matter the year -1-2 plant. all from scratch. Yes, the majority of the owners are foreign. but our job. taxes .. not everything is so bad. although it’s not worth crowing

[Valery Saitov]

I can insert, but it does not fit. I’ll insert a bit.
1 June
1. Mordovia.
VKM-STAL LLC launched the VDK-10 line of the large car casting workshop:
Currently, the domestic market is experiencing an acute shortage of large car castings, which is causing a decrease in the production of rolling stock. The new line reaching its design capacity will make it possible to increase the production of freight rolling stock by the holding enterprises by 50%, up to 15 thousand cars per year by 2015.
4 June
2. Voronezh region, Ramonsky district.
Opening of a new plant of Betagran Ramon LLC for the production of pelleted sugar beet seeds
Volume of investments: 550 million rubles.
7 June
3. Chuvashia, the city of Novocheboksarsk.
The Spanish Roca Group opens its first factory for the production of acrylic and hot tubs in Russia:
By 2014, an increase in capacity is planned here, and in 2015, ceramic production should be launched. The total investment is more than 65 million euros.
4. Kaluga region, near Maloyaroslavets.
Launch of the second phase of the production of dry building mixes and industrial adhesives of the Kiilto Kaluga plant:
Total investment: 25 million euros.
8 June
5. The Republic of Karelia, near Petrozavodsk.
A plant for deep processing of forest and garden berries “Berries of Karelia” has been opened:
The total investment in the project amounted to 674 million rubles.
9 June
6. St. Petersburg.
The largest SVETLED LED factory opened:
Volume of investments: 800 million rubles.
7. Lipetsk region, Terbuny.
Opening of a pharmaceutical plant for the production of antibiotics and antitumor drugs of the joint Russian-Czech project ZAO Rafarma:
Volume of investments: 1,5 billion rubles.
Etc. etc. And you do not use the Internet?

[VIX34]

Quote: Chichikov

Quote: Silvestr

people are divided into categories: "all-crawler" and "blind believers." Between them is a layer of "reading and thinking"

Thinking - thinking!
This, like the average salary, is 100 for the minister, 000 for the worker. The average is 20. So, here they are building where there is the corresponding infrastructure and staff! Or do you think that a new plant needs to be built in the village of Tmutarakan, then the appropriate infrastructure (energy resources, etc.) should be built, then, to increase the population of the village, to the staff’s needs of the plant, build universities, educate the population in technical literacy and Ur, the plant was built and started to work!
So, the conclusions should be average, and not based on the village of Tmutarakan!

"smart ass"!!! They do just that, because as soon as such an approach gives a multiplier effect. This is when a whole territory and a bunch of neighboring ones develop. Only this approach is not for effective ones, but for those who think and think, who are able to understand that the complex effect of the project is much more profitable in the long run than in the short or medium.

[r4space]

wise guy from tell me what gave GRK Bystrinskoye for the item Gazimursky plant.

[vlanis]

Quote: Serge

At one time, there were many Communists who were material. Now we select and choose Vova. Here and catch what you are fighting for as they say.

Do you have a candidate for the throne? Isn't it Sobchak?

[seacap]

The question is different, and who will work for them? Effective managers, or maybe a herd of restless lawyers of all stripes, or there’s still a human "klondike" of officials, various deputies and traders, or maybe we’ll recruit from the mass of our bomber-garbage? if vocational education is cleverly and successfully destroyed? Turner, who at least knows what tool for what, is to find a problem. Young people, educated as an "advanced consumer", in advertisements and Hollywood, consider workers and peasants for losers and, as they put it, suckers. The main criterion for their success is loot, it is planted from the cradle and TV and cinema, and the environment. If dad and mom are not from this cohort, overseas universities can not afford and do not give Ferrari for his birthday, then all the ways lead to the first table, there everything the loot of the country, somewhere to catch on and be noted, sing, dance, you can be active at party rallies, there is no such possibility, there is crime for a beautiful life, it is shown so beautifully in series and films, whatever it is to get animated, but I won’t work with my hands anyway. So, back to the original one, who will work for the beggar in the factories for beggar, again we’ll pick up from villages and villages (in the villages it’s all over, everything in the capital), like in the 20s, from plow, but only today the requirements are different and it’s not enough to be able to read and tell a poem about Masha. And factories can be made up of 2-10 thousand, this is not a problem, only it takes 18 years and 10 years to create a normal system of upbringing and education , and most importantly, a unified society of citizens of their country. But we have a problem with this, the self-appointed elite of Liberia is resisting and preventing this, destroying our future and development prospects.

[kamski]

MDA is GREAT PRODUCTION to sell the bowels !!!

[perm23]

to sell the bowels. you need equipment for their extraction. transportation. need email. energy so that equipment works and people.

[Greenwood]

All this for the most part is either small-scale production (food industry, etc.) for purchased production lines, or a screwdriver assembly. There are many such manufactures in Africa under the auspices of Western companies. Meanwhile, a whole bunch of really large strategic industries collapsed and sold out.

[perm23]

Well, with privatization, it was sold to private owners. and they themselves decided what to do with them.

[perm23]

One of the largest Russian producers of chemical raw materials, Metafrax, will invest 58 billion rubles, excluding VAT, in the construction of a new complex Ammonia-urea-melamine (AKM) in Prikamye

[perm23]

and forward saw the ships for sale. aircraft. plants. Why do we need all that. USA will help us

[Megamarcel]

Dumb agitation for edrosov apparently. If you look at tighter Moscow, then where are all those enterprises that were still under EBN? And at least something was released. There are none of them. In their place, either the BC, or residential quarters are sculpted, or miserable crumbs remain. We recall only a few: ZIL, Hammer and Sickle, Moskvich, Caliber, etc. Recall that on the site of the same Western river port is being built LCD. Agitators parry, but part of Moskvich is Avtoframos, that in a city like Moscow, factories are not needed, so in their place the LCD is just right. Oh well. In the largest metropolis with a huge number of qualified personnel, there are no national enterprises alike. Although I’m not lying. There is. Market Gardener! Here is the apologist for business in modern Russia. But the most interesting thing is not this but that there is no one to deal with this order of things.

[perm23]

and at least nobody bought it. You now buy a Muscovite or buy a Toyota. And if you are the owner of this company decide that it is more profitable for you to sell everything or rent it out. who can ban you. You are the boss. Well, at one time they were looking for a Sony TV and our Horizon. or rainbow. You understand was privatization. the owner appeared. he himself decides .and how to deal with it. Again Secular power .Well, still shouting with one voice. that only a private trader can work. and produce competitive products.

[Megamarcel]

Well, they got Toyota. They killed their school of secondary education and design school and now proudly promise to jump the US on trampolines. For some reason, China has not refused state regulation and lobbying. And our Kremlin bonzes decided that the market would settle everything on its own. Well, what did it lead to? Correctly. To the most severe personnel shortage. But we did not need a locksmith, engineer, etc. And if you look deeper, it turns out even more interesting. Our population essentially feeds foreign industrialists. And the fact that something is localized in the Russian Federation means only a reduction in cost for business owners. Tell me, do we have gas and KamAZ? But just who are their final owners and from what components do they assemble? And who in turn owns these manufacturers? If the country is essentially in economic occupation, then why the hell to make oneself great and climb into foreign campaigns? Just to distract the population and extend power, who needs it?

[free]

Private trader say better controls? What the hell then this private trader of yours sold everything?

[perm23]

I read what people write. and questions. Or a person does not understand what he writes. or what. When, under the BNE, these companies were privately owned. everyone was silent. everyone was silent. when the ships were cutting on metal everyone was silent. Almost all were destroyed. They said that we will all buy abroad. . and got it. And now we scream the Sentry. and blame the authorities .. Here is a comrade writes in Novocherkassk closes the company. dahk there private owner. what he wants is what he does. someone went bankrupt. someone sawed and sold everything. and that now as private as possible. prohibit the owner. If I decide to sell a free car. what anyone can forbid me. This is my property. So it is here. what do you offer. again the state to buy everything from him .and restore. and then again to sell to someone. We have Gaidar privatization. all economists are screaming. that only the owner can manage. and what a habit of comparing different countries. We all have different things. different story. different culture. different mentality .. and we compare. With us, no one will surrender his friend who is drunk and will drive. we do not miss the ambulance, we throw cigarette butts on the street. we ourselves violated the rules of the SDA. he gave a bribe and then you yourself blame the cop. So how to compare it is possible us and them. You can not compare 1 km and 1 kg. here.

[Greenwood]

Quote: perm23

We have Gaidar privatization. all economists are screaming. that only the owner can manage. and what a habit of comparing different countries. We all have different things. different story. different culture. different mentality .. and we compare. With us, no one will surrender his friend who is drunk and will drive. we do not miss the ambulance, we throw cigarette butts on the street. we ourselves violated the rules of the SDA. he gave a bribe and then you yourself blame the cop. So how to compare it is possible us and them. You can not compare 1 km and 1 kg. here.

Well? What is the moral of this fable?

[Alexander Scriabin]

I think I get the idea. Let me answer for the author, since he is silent. Russia needs to go its own way. Live your own traditions, history, accept the mistakes that were made and avoid repeating them again. Continuing the thought - to develop what we are strong in, what we have an advantage in and take the maximum from it.

[perm23]

You're right. Work and develop your own. rather than constantly watching what's behind a neighbor’s fence. and remember that there was an era of BNE and there was privatization, and today when enterprises have an owner, talking about closed enterprises is simply stupid.

[uskrabut]

Quote: perm23

there was privatization and today when enterprises have an owner it’s just silly to talk about closed enterprises

Privatization was a freebie, everything that was possible was squeezed out of enterprises, brought them to complete wear and tear. Now than investing in modernization, it’s easier to cut into scrap metal and thereby weld again. Alas, this is very close.

[New Year day]

I agree and, necessarily, reporting authorities.
But not that. what we have now!

Permissiveness and lack of accountability of power is the main brake!

[free]

Quote: Alexander Scriabin

I think I get the idea. Let me answer for the author, since he is silent. Russia needs to go its own way. Live your own traditions, history, accept the mistakes that were made and avoid repeating them again. Continuing the thought - to develop what we are strong in, what we have an advantage in and take the maximum from it.

True, but only power that relies on the people can be strong. And it can only be popular power!

[Vadim237]

We have good owners, those who created and developed their own business.

[Sergey G.]

Maybe somewhere around 1,5 enterprises didn’t argue, but it’s specifically in our Volgograd Region that enterprises are just closing. The tractor plant is destroyed (literally), aluminum (one small workshop is operating), KhimProm (closed), Barricades (a couple of small workshops for the defense industry are working), etc. etc.

[Vadim237]

And it’s good that ChemProm was closed - it is an enterprise with depreciation of fixed assets of 95%, for years poisoned Volgograd and half of the region.

[Larum]

The description of the article is similar to the colonial economy. They have gas, we Sapsans.

[Megamarcel]

Exactly. This is the whole essence of what is happening. Western puppeteers got a market, plus a buffer between east and west. They do not allow Russia to die completely, because it brings them resources and can be used as a military force. Therefore, the people at the helm of the country are those who, on the one hand, announce patriotic slogans, and, on the other, send maximum profits directly or indirectly over the hill. We have a good president and a bad government. But this does not happen.

[Stalnov I.P.]

It is beautifully written, but it is not said, but how many enterprises have closed in these five years. Well, one can tell the following from history, during the period of industrialization, when the situation around the USSR was much worse, under STALIN, so many enterprises were introduced in ONE YEAR, so compare the work efficiency of one and the work efficiency of the other with its “top managers”, I don’t think about the level of corruption, Vostochny Cosmodrome, as an example of disorderly and irresponsible construction and theft

[perm23]

damn when it reaches everyone. that at first there was privatization and the owner. who did what he wanted with his enterprise.

[r4space]

Under Bukharik there were still GOS orders that supported the defense industry barely barely afloat. Under the Primakov’s government, they even went up; under the Cunning Athlete, these enterprises simply closed.

[invade]

The article is a typical example of propaganda: it talks about how many factories have been built, but it doesn't say how many factories are closed, what is the balance of Putin’s rule. And the numbers themselves are not impressive: 1500 plants versus 9 during the first five-year plans. Not to mention the fact that Magnitogorsk and Kuzbass were built then, and now - breweries. Zil and Moskvich closed, 000 breweries opened

[turbris]

Do you continue to stubbornly compare the USSR with Russia? It is time to fall to the ground and move away from the first five-year plans, otherwise health can be damaged in horror from what is happening, take care.

[Vadim237]

Zil plant is the dirtiest place in Moscow, the plant fulfilled its function - there are no eternal enterprises.

[turbris]

Quote: Artek

The economist Boldyrev tells how we live well.

Your economist Boldyrev has been telling all this for 20 years; now he makes forecasts for 2030, he hopes that he will not survive.

[New Year day]

Quote: Artek

by 2030, Russia should be among the poorest countries in the world

our benchmarks are already starting to scare.
At the very end of December 1999, two days before Yeltsin's “I'm tired, I'm leaving”, Nezavisimaya Gazeta published a programmatic article by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, in which he outlined his principles for the development of the country and set the goal for the first time to catch up with Portugal. The promise of "catching up with Portugal" was once fulfilled or nearly fulfilled. According to the World Bank, in 2013 Russia almost caught up with the poorest country of “old” Europe ($ 25144 versus $ 25654), and according to the estimates of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, it equaled the difference of $ 50.
Before ending his second term, Putin reiterated that Russia needed a long-term strategy. This time - until 2020.

“Russia should become the most attractive country for life,” he said.

Before his third term, Putin announced program goals:
In the next five years, to ensure almost complete independence of the country for all major types of food.
Due to non-resource-based growth, "untwist the flywheel of economic development of growth rates of up to 6-7% per year, and in the next five years enter the five largest economies in the world."
Taxes for people with high incomes, for the rich should be higher than for the middle class and the bulk of citizens.
By 2012, the salaries of school teachers were supposed to equal or exceed the average salary for the economy in all regions of Russia without exception. In 2012, the income of teachers from all Russian universities was also expected to reach the average level in the region.
Ensure civil society control over bureaucracy. "We should not be afraid of such an activity of society, but, on the contrary, strongly support it."
As you can see, the goals are achieved.

[uskrabut]

Quote: Silvestr

"Russia should become the most attractive country for life"

Somehow it scares. It suggests that the country should be freed from the population for others.

[New Year day]

Quote: uskrabut

Somehow it scares.

so it is Putin said!

[groks]

Holy god! Well, they already examined the situation with Yamal. The state has invested our money so that Michelson, Total and the Chinese make profit by sending duty-free and tax-free LNG to our best friends - Amers and British. Tse peremoga - definitely.

[Dukat22]

Quote: Viktor77

The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas ...

Not every Tmutarakan has gas or oil deposits, but the main thing is to PRODUCE "nishtyakov" from the bowels. What plants are we talking about then?

you nishtyaki themselves turn into bucks ......... or if we do not make Chinese consumer goods then there are no factories ........ markets are divided, China spanks junk, we give energy and other resources, Europe he buys all this because he owns the lion's share in these projects in both China and the Russian Federation

[Viktor77]

So you think once the markets are divided and you should not twitch, this is approximately what the best finance minister in the world has expressed.
You shouldn’t talk about China so scornfully. They are clearly and systematically developing their state, economy. And the fact that Europe owns a share there is for the time being. There will be a development of science, technology, education. Some time will pass and Europe will be on the side "
I’m just saying that “a little” we are going the wrong way - to a dead end. Although, if as a “gas station”, then it’s the same.

[free]

Quote: Dukat22

Quote: Viktor77

The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas ...

Not every Tmutarakan has gas or oil deposits, but the main thing is to PRODUCE "nishtyakov" from the bowels. What plants are we talking about then?

you nishtyaki themselves turn into bucks ......... or if we do not make Chinese consumer goods then there are no factories ........ markets are divided, China spanks junk, we give energy and other resources, Europe he buys all this because he owns the lion's share in these projects in both China and the Russian Federation

Because the Soviet Union and turned on itself, and was really independent. The market was not divided yesterday.

[lieutenant colonel]

My good friend, an employee of one municipal administration, said: during the municipal elections of the head of administration, one of the candidates promised:
- build sewage treatment plants;
- asphalt parking lots;
- build a hockey box and tennis court, well, etc. all that, as they say, was sore.
But he promised to do what the current administration ALREADY allocated funds.
Maybe that’s why NOW so the sternum and the Yavlinsky began to break into power? We would not have such agriculture as it is now if 15 years ago the state (cabinet) had not allocated funds for this. Industry is an even more long-term investment, which will emerge in 10-20 years ... So, the time has come and this is where the next “saviors of Russia” appeared who know how and what to do.
Where were the Zyuganovs, when in reality did people need to be led out onto the square to save the country or challenge the rigged election results? Why is it now threatening to bring people to the square ... I sold the Zyuganov, first at retail, the authority of the party, and when the communists grew old and the natural decline began - I decided to wholesale my old men to sell to the communist capitalist ... Some kind of oxymoron.

[uskrabut]

I want to believe...........................................
..........

[privateer2000]

I watched. I sit and think. and now ... Time is forward !!!! ... it’s right .... it seems it’s gone-REVIVAL !!! .... KS2000,)

[Mavrikiy]

90's lesson: Thousands of new plants are being built in Russia

This makes me happy. In the 90s, 1 plants were destroyed at each of which 000 people worked (don’t jerk, 10 scraped together, what are some CTZs, VTZs, but Kuibyshev, and MOSCOW?), And now we have built 000 plants for 10 people and we will put equal sign or immediately translate into plus?

[Vadim237]

"One ChTZ" - So it works.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Vadim237

"One ChTZ" - So it works.

Worked at ChTZ in 1980. 45000 people, now 7000. Will we put an equal sign?

[Vadim237]

He then provided according to the plan the entire USSR and all the rest, and now only Russia and foreign customers - on orders.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Vadim237

He then provided according to the plan the entire USSR and all the rest, and now only Russia and foreign customers - on orders.

Ah-ah-ah-ah, won Th ... Then the tractor needed Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, and now they do not sow and do not plow.
Only in Ukraine and during the USSR did the tractor produce HTZ. The market has not changed.

[perm23]

But the fact that no one needs ChTZ products no one bought. You don’t care. why everyone began to buy imported tractors. not ours. but there is no demand then why the plant. Once the owners do not want to invest

[Fox]

Quote: Mavrikiy

and now we have built 1000 plants for 100 people and we will put an equal sign

eh..if you would. but then 2500 people were reduced at the VAZ, but they built and opened a factory with great fanfare ... 36 people reduced the repairmen and machine operators and got garbage sorters ... something like that.

[Fanat85]

Quote: Vadim237

And in what did the USSR compete with the Western world? - Certainly not in the automotive industry, cybernetics, electronics, mechanical engineering - since all this was backward, it does not matter what to let out - the main thing to let out and give out to half the world - you live great. And then they were surprised - "And that we all release it, but elementary in everyday necessities - we find only by acquaintance.

From the crazy percent of our economy’s growth, it looks like your eyes have burst or rolled out of orbit! The first Intel Pentium processor is just a copy of the Soviet microprocessor! still believe in the backwardness of the Soviet Union?

[Vadim237]

It’s only among the masses that he didn’t go - but the guys abroad, who made copies, made good money and developed to a planetary scale, it has always been like this, everything that we have created, promising, is produced and works abroad.

[free]

Quote: Vadim237

It’s only among the masses that he didn’t go - but the guys abroad, who made copies, made good money and developed to a planetary scale, it has always been like this, everything that we have created, promising, is produced and works abroad.

It turns out that the Union’s backwardness in electronics is a lie? You actually admitted it! And there you look and the rest is not far away!

[perm23]

a lot of what was first with us. but for some reason Zvorykin fled to the West .. and we wanted to buy Japanese TVs. Nobody denies that we had a great country. But there was. and the gentlemen of the Communist Party of the Communist Party emptied her in a few days. and we all helped them in this .. buying jeans and chewing gum from the farmers.

[Eleider]

Quote: Fanat85

The first Intel Pentium processor is just a copy of the Soviet microprocessor!

It’s ridiculous. Given the fact that the USSR copied the IBM 360, and 90% of Soviet microcircuits were degraded copies of Western samples.

[Vladimir SHajkin]

This is just wonderful, the Yeltsin oligarchs have been replaced by Putin's governing state corporations, they have more power than Yeltsin’s budgets, only the people live better. Yes, they began to pay s / n, there is no justice, the state has not become the best, but only for the worse is slipping.
If so, then new boyars will appear.

[Yuriman]

It’s somehow strange! Over the past 5 years, more than 1,5 thousand enterprises of various sizes have opened in Russia, domestic industry is undergoing a revival, but for some reason industrial production itself has not grown, for some reason it has fallen.

[Vadim237]

If orders grow, then production grows.

[kig]

1500 enterprises are good. This is just great. And 2000 is even better. But where exactly are they built, what are they, and who built them? I live in Vladivostok, sail the seas, and I see that our local exports so far are firewood, coal, oil and gas, and scrap metal. Still, of course, fish-caviar-crabs. Moreover, the scrap metal deposits do not dry out at all, rather, even new ones are being discovered. They bring it (scrap) to Korea and China, although we have an Amurstal plant. Okay, let's say that scrap is contraindicated for him, I don’t presume to judge. Good. We arrive in Plastun, ship the technological chips to Japan. Terneyles produces wood chips. Well done, they seem to be developing. However, we look at the available information - the chip production workshop is 45% owned by Sumitomo. Clearly, they also take part of the profit for themselves, for their loved ones. Naturally, I don’t own information throughout our vast country, but based on local experience I strongly suspect that everything is the same there as in the Far East. Can this be called a breakthrough? Again, I strongly doubt it. This approach to business was justified in the 20s of the last century, when we needed new technologies and training new personnel. And now? Well, as for the personnel in the Far East, everything is clear, they died out and moved. Ended, in short. In the city of Arsenyev resumed production of combat helicopters. Shouting cheers, just keep quiet that there is no one to produce them. What about technology? Surely too dried up? Or are they all with the prefix nano, that is, invisible to the naked eye? And you want to tell me that everything is fine with us and will be even better. Sorry - I believe what I see.

[Glory to Korshikov]

What are you talking about?
A striking example for your article:

This is how Aviakor's workshops, the former Kuibyshev Aviation Plant that produced the TU-154, look like in the Il-2 war.

This is the Raid plant - once the best instruments and electronics for submarines were made here.

[Vadim237]

But there is no factory for this, because besides the Tu 154, he did not produce anything else.

[Glory to Korshikov]

And more:

Valve factory - today completely demolished.

And here was once GPZ-4

This, if I may say so, is named after Maslennikov.

[Glory to Korshikov]

But this shopping center is the reincarnation of the Samara cable factory, so to speak.
Middle Volga Machine Tool Plant:


Of the 40 factories evacuated during the war in Kuibyshev today, only one Progress is operating - and then google it is great to see how our missiles do not want to take off and put satellites into orbit.

In Samara, the factories built in the post-war period were also destroyed, transport was destroyed - PATP was destroyed, RTTZ - repair tram-trolleybus factory was destroyed.

The apogee of the struggle against the proletariat in Samara reached its peak in 2013 - when the most industrialized region of the Middle Volga Samara region became unprofitable - like Chukotka, yes, for 5 years we have not been a donor region, but a recipient region.
From here - this is how the scandalous Samara-Arena is built, from here the selection of those crumbs that they had from pensioners, etc.
The top of the region has nothing to live for. And the collapse of the area is increasing. Only a blind man does not see this.

[Anyone]

the next five years will be built even more production facilities. According to experts, at least 2 thousand, with investment volumes from 300 million to 1 trillion rubles.

The author did not try to divide 300 million into 2 thousand? The average investment is 150 thousand rubles for the construction of one plant))
If he meant that each of 2 thousand investments "from 300 million to 1 trillion", then the figure turns out to be some kind of prohibitive - hundreds or thousands of trillions))

[Vadim237]

That's right - investment in each of these 2000 plants, from 300 million to 1 trillion, the last 6-7. There are approximately 16 trillion investments in all these projects in the total compartment.

[Anyone]

Proof provide? Or also, as the author of the article, simply invented the numbers? Industrial production in Russia is falling and falling, but the backwaters allegedly grow like mushrooms after rain))
P.S. The closer the elections, the funnier and absurd the agitation at the HE.

[Vadim237]

In annual terms, production does not fall, but grows, personally my production of parts last year showed an increase in orders of 26%. At the expense of the supply of non-raw materials, for export https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/104056/

[Glory to Korshikov]

Even cooler than the factories is the agriculture of the region:
https://www.kp.by/daily/24311/504627/
There are no horns or hoofs left from the wonder milk farm
Five years ago, a dairy complex was built in the village of Repyatkino, Samara Region. Today it is no more. The cowsheds for 600 elite cows are empty, the former machine operators and cattle either drink too much, or stand on the stock exchange, or goad in neighboring farms.

Back in 2004, the village of Repyatkino, Klyavlinsky District, was booming throughout the entire region. The opening of the reconstructed farm was held with great fanfare, all the local media trumpeted. Symbolic ribbons effectively cut the ceremonially dressed governor and other important regional people.

Millions from the budget, eight young specialists and builders from the company with the romantic name "Dream" got into the household. The farm was to be transformed into a paradise for 600 cows. To repair and refurbish the premises, to equip the system of manure removal and ventilation, in short, to bring the economy to the forefront of animal husbandry. Who would have thought that in five years from the farm horns and legs would remain. More precisely - no horns, no hooves.

Under Merkushkin, all the poultry farming of the region, including the Obsharov poultry factory, was destroyed ...
These are agricultural enterprises - which democrats were already enthusiastically creating; they are not there.
And from those farms and factories that were in every village 30 years ago, I won’t write the words "in the USSR" so frightening to the current authorities - there are no more traces - they were destroyed on the basis of 4 GPPs - only shopping centers in villages are not built on ruins.

[Vadim237]

For the fact that he went broke, say thank you to his managers, the business of mediocrity and gouging will never go.

[free]

Quote: Vadim237

For the fact that he went broke, say thank you to his managers, the business of mediocrity and gouging will never go.

But what about effective owners?

[Glory to Korshikov]

Quote: Dedall

Mr. Chichikovand how then to explain the complete collapse of the existing factories in the city of Novocherkassk, where I have the honor to live. We still have one doing something electric locomotive factory, but its employees are waiting for the closure from day to day. But how much was still. For example, the Magnit factory, which produced permanent magnets of all varieties. And there was also the Synthetic Materials Plant, producing dozens of chemical synthesis products from methyl alcohol to isovinylpyrralidone and lavsan. Closed even those so dear to the heart of every peasant Liqueur-Vodka Plant and two wineries along with the Research Institute of Viticulture and Winemaking.
In short, a lot of things were, but safely collapsed by the current shit and managers, But the city is located just at the intersection of transport routes near the sea and in the presence of a circle of qualified personnel. Well, now all this can be restored only by a miracle, well, or the arrival of Stalin and Beria.

This is the first comment reflecting reality.
And this whole article - a fake stuffing before the election - there are fake comments of arguing people right away, is it good that they are building 1000 plants, are they building there, will the workers of these plants be happy. In this case, even a thought does not arise - and lay out the guys the addresses of construction sites, the names of these 1000 plants - the number of jobs in each.
??? Guys!!!! We are waiting for photos of construction projects. As far as is known, the eastern spaceport has not yet been completed.
Justify that all this is being built and completed and there is a return.
So far, we see the heyday of the Moscow region and the complete destruction of industry throughout the country, and not in the 90s, but in the 2000s, that is, under Putin. In Samara, I posted a photo for you, but it’s enough that the most industrially developed region of the Middle Volga Samara region has become unprofitable - like Chukotka, yes, for 5 years we have not been a donor region, but a recipient region. Than you will cover the guys.

[capitosha1rang]

“The most ambitious projects will be associated with the extraction of minerals, primarily oil and gas” - this is the essence of the “Cheers-article”.
In fact, a lot of things are being built, but all this is “a lot” for the extraction and transportation of oil and gas abroad by Russia in one way or another.
Among the "thousands of new factories" I would like to see, for example, factories for the production of mini-tractors for farms, washing machines, shoes, laptops and mobile phones, etc. About mechanical engineering and do not ask.
Sell ​​"public treasure" may and!

[Vadim237]

"Mini - tractors" - The idea is good, but whether these mini tractors will be needed, given the abundance of manufacturers of similar equipment on the market.

[Fanat85]

Quote: perm23

a lot of what was first with us. but for some reason Zvorykin fled to the West .. and we wanted to buy Japanese TVs. Nobody denies that we had a great country. But there was. and the gentlemen of the Communist Party of the Communist Party emptied her in a few days. and we all helped them in this .. buying jeans and chewing gum from the farmers.

It seems that the very gentlemen from the CPSU who have tarnished the country now from the new government and continue to finish off the remains !! Hitler wanted us to have a population of 10-15 million people to pump resources to the west - everything seems to be coming to this! Maybe it's time we all open our eyes? Personally, nothing has been built in our region, now the only factory will cease to exist! besides military !! Putin’s stooge boast only of increasing tax collection numbers! By the way, the only decent enterprise that works and where you can get a good payroll for our region of 30000 is led by the Communists!

[nnz226]

There would be something worthwhile to produce. Once again, enterprises are being built for oil and gas production. As they were a gas station, they remained ...

[DPN]

It’s not for nothing that I want to be a shareholder in gas and oil industry workers, and I want to be a shareholder in steel songs, and 15 million rubles to steel million horseradish.

[Vadim237]

And the remaining millions - the taxes that these enterprises pay to the budget, and then it went: social programs, science, culture, education, the defense industry and much more.

[shoemaker]

Quote: Vadim237

With these, everything is normal, since pipes and everything else related to the production, storage, transportation and refining of oil are engineering.

Large diameter pipes for Turkish Stream were purchased by Gazprom abroad. After 2014, many metal rolling positions were in short supply, as supplies came from Ukraine

[shoemaker]

Quote: Vadim237

And what oligarchs do for you - your life will not change if they withdraw less - no matter how.

First, Putin and Co. drove easy money from expensive oil to the Stabilization Fund and the Welfare Fund. Then they watched through their fingers as banks give loans to affiliates. And then through the DIA they emptied the Stabilization Fund and took up another fund. And state corporations went to get loans from Western banks. But the government does not pass and buys a month US debt of billions of dollars, not rubles

[shoemaker]

Quote: perm23

Type in a search engine. how many factories are built in Russia. there you will see everything. so for example. .. April 13 - in the city of Kurgan, the first stage of LLC Kurgan Drilling Units Plant was opened. The company manufactures heavy-duty mobile drilling rigs.

This factory assembles drilling rigs on the MAZ chassis (manufactured in Belarus) from Chinese-made car kits. In fact - the Chinese manufacturer is crowding out the domestic. In Kurgan, the Kurgan factory of non-standard equipment was declared bankrupt. This plant produced Construction drilling rigs based on ChTZ B 12 and mobile drilling rigs on a chassis of its own manufacture. And about 10 years ago, the Russian government acted as a guarantor of the transaction: Gazprombank finances the purchase of drilling equipment manufactured in China, as a result, the Chinese received a portfolio of orders for 5 years without any tenders.

[shoemaker]

Quote: Sergey G.

Maybe somewhere around 1,5 enterprises didn’t argue, but it’s specifically in our Volgograd Region that enterprises are just closing. The tractor plant is destroyed (literally), aluminum (one small workshop is operating), KhimProm (closed), Barricades (a couple of small workshops for the defense industry are working), etc. etc.

The "Effective Owner" of the Volgograd Tractor Plant is Tractor Plants OJSC. For non-repayment of loans and huge debts, the state withdraws from it those factories that the concern has not yet managed to ruin to the ground. This is an example of the fact that a private owner is not always effective.

[Dukat22]

Quote: Viktor77

So you think once the markets are divided and you should not twitch, this is approximately what the best finance minister in the world has expressed.
You shouldn’t talk about China so scornfully. They are clearly and systematically developing their state, economy. And the fact that Europe owns a share there is for the time being. There will be a development of science, technology, education. Some time will pass and Europe will be on the side "
I’m just saying that “a little” we are going the wrong way - to a dead end. Although, if as a “gas station”, then it’s the same.

try putting up a stall with pies next to a cheap canteen, investing in it and so on......... this canteen will have orders for lunch from companies and schools, its own clients, etc....... if you got into the global world, now we play by these rules, and nothing more.........what chance will you have of going broke or becoming a leader so that it closes. Of course, you can bribe a local police officer or from the SES, plant cockroaches.........they will impose sanctions......well, that’s kind of how they conduct business too.

[Dukat22]

Quote: Viktor77

So you think once the markets are divided and you should not twitch, this is approximately what the best finance minister in the world has expressed.
You shouldn’t talk about China so scornfully. They are clearly and systematically developing their state, economy. And the fact that Europe owns a share there is for the time being. There will be a development of science, technology, education. Some time will pass and Europe will be on the side "
I’m just saying that “a little” we are going the wrong way - to a dead end. Although, if as a “gas station”, then it’s the same.

listen, if our markets are open and there is no protection, then all your good thoughts are down the drain, useless

[Viktor77]

Look! We have gradually approached the protection of our manufacturer, but this, by the way, is what all developed countries are doing. We need to play not by someone else’s rules, but create our own.

[Anyone]

Quote: Vadim237

In annual terms, production does not fall, but grows, personally my production of parts last year showed an increase in orders of 26%. At the expense of the supply of non-raw materials, for export https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/104056/

Oh yeah! The growth of industrial production in Russia in 2017 amounted to as much as 0,9%. At this rate, the doubling of industrial production will occur very soon - already by 2118. We have no growth in industrial production. If you have any doubts, go ahead to any hardware/electronics/tools/clothing/etc store.
That is, there will be no proof regarding “2000 new factories” and “trillions of investments in production”? ))

[Vadim237]

We have a lot of tools - as an example, equipment for machine tools.

[Anyone]

We have 7 out of 10 machines that are imported. But that's not what we're talking about. I meant simply household tools: mowers, drills, chainsaws, gas generators, hammer drills, screwdrivers, and so on. Even those products that have a Russian name and the manufacturing company of which is registered in the Russian Federation are usually assembled in China. I already wrote here about how I tried to buy myself a domestic gas generator. I haven't found any for sale. There are all sorts of Foreman/Bears/Boars/etc., but in fact, all of them are equipped with units either purely Chinese-made or manufactured in China under license from Honda. A couple of our companies produce diesel generators based on YaMZ engines. But this is for backup power supply of non-residential or industrial facilities. And these companies were on their last legs. Or were in the process of switching to Chinese assortment.

[Persian]

As our guarantor said, “double labor productivity.” Next, the managers cut 50% of the staff.... voila, production has doubled. Vasya works for the same salary, okay, they’ll add 1.500 rubles. And everything is in kings.statistics.And with a buck.that’s a joke, we have become cheaper than Chinese labor.METALLURG

[SHAH]

[i][/i] They are building something that helps export more and more raw materials to the West and steal this money.

[capitosha1rang]

“Over the past 5 years, more than 1,5 thousand enterprises of various sizes have opened in Russia.”[B] [/ b]
It would be nice to have a list of all these new factories/enterprises. The list is convincing.
Maybe something is opening up somewhere.
BUT, what I see with my own eyes: over the same years in Sibay, the capital of the Trans-Ural region, a dairy canning plant, a meat processing plant, a clothing factory, an airport, a beer and soft drink plant, a brick factory, "Bashmedstroy" (SU-1, 2, 4, reinforced concrete plant, brick factory, UTM, etc.), Uchalinsky reinforced concrete plant, Baymaksky incubator, Zilair grain state farm, Sibay state farm, Irandyksiy state farm, collective farm named after. Frunze, Suvanyaksky state farm, two sausage shops in Baymak and a couple of dozen more enterprises that employed 80% of the working population.
Did you notice that most of the enterprises were supposed to be associated with the import substitution program?
Here it is before our eyes, the import substitution program - dying cities, poverty and hopelessness.
Of course, I would like to see “thousands of new businesses,” but where are they?

[seacap]

Yes, building at least 10 is not a big problem, the question is different. How much will be, to put it mildly, “developed” for “non-targeted” purposes, or as our authorities usually state, has disappeared in an unknown direction and it is unclear how, allocated budget funds (i.e. our people's) during construction? To what offshore will the new owner of the enterprise (and by the way, who will he be, what foreign guy will we give it to) be sent to, built with people's money? And most importantly, who will work for these enterprises, with the destruction of vocational education and when all the youth from the periphery (colonial territories) moved to the capital (metropolis) to study to become a manager, an official or an artist, or perhaps to become a bandit, at worst?

[seacap]

Quote: perm23

One of the largest Russian producers of chemical raw materials, Metafrax, will invest 58 billion rubles, excluding VAT, in the construction of a new complex Ammonia-urea-melamine (AKM) in Prikamye

Who in the country knows about this? Our news from the central channels does not spread beyond the parties within the ring of the first capital, for them there is no further than the earth and the country, all the suckers live there.

[Old]

Something is hard to believe. Yesterday I met a friend (he is already over 70) He works in the tool shop ALONE! on all machines. He says there are simply no machine operators.
So think about what these 1500 enterprises are. And if you take into account that 30000 businesses have closed...

[Persian]

Thank you for the new enterprises, the entire Kemerovo region was opened up with open-pit mines, no new mines, like in the war (I talked to one smart person), I quote... there is no need to open up the open-pit mine (it should be done this way in wartime, i.e. quickly) , and the mine is long-term and promising. Here is a different approach, snatch, wash, sell and scrap, Novokuznetsk shakes every day.

[dmitry.kashkaryow]

Quote: Silvestr

on the labor market and citizens' incomes. If all the income from the new plant went into the owner’s pocket, then what good is it to the country?

If the owner takes “all the income,” he will go bankrupt tomorrow! The profit or part of it is withdrawn (as the owner or the board of directors of the joint-stock company decides) And the country receives a tax and the employees receive a salary. Otherwise, never! At least under socialism, at least under capitalism. Read the basics of economics.

[free]

casual passerby,
Learn the materiel, the people voted to preserve the USSR!

[Brushing]

Quote: Chichikov

Quote: Silvestr

people are divided into categories: "all-crawler" and "blind believers." Between them is a layer of "reading and thinking"

Thinking - thinking!
This is, as the average salary, the minister has 100, the worker 000. The average is 20. It’s the same here - they build where there is the appropriate infrastructure and personnel! Or do you think that a new plant needs to be built in the village of Tmutarakan, then the corresponding infrastructure (energy resources, etc.) should be built, then the population of the village should be increased to meet the personnel needs of the plant, universities should be built, the population should be trained in “technical literacy” and Hurray, the plant was built and started working!
So, the conclusions should be average, and not based on the village of Tmutarakan!

Laugh....

The most developed infrastructure in Moscow and the personnel here - I don’t want to choose, but besides residential complexes and shopping centers - they are not building ANYTHING!!!)))

[Brushing]

Quote: Vadim237

Zil plant is the dirtiest place in Moscow, the plant fulfilled its function - there are no eternal enterprises.

Vadim, for that very clean place in Moscow, this is your virgin brain...)))

The meaning of the existence of Moscow in its current form without production and science??? Now in place of ZIL there will be a new district for 70 thousand and who will live there and what will these people do???

[Lyabaka]

We understand the “statistics” of current officials and journalists! Factories? or handicrafts made from Chinese parts? Today we received the parts - the “factory” was opened! Tomorrow the parts did not arrive - the “factory” was closed. And the day after tomorrow they opened again! It means that two factories have already been opened!!!! It’s just that my matchmaker has such a “factory” - it opens and closes, so I understand what we’re talking about, and I myself sometimes order something on AliExpress. It’s also probably considered a factory.