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A video appeared on the web with a new American rocket.

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The helicopter of the ABC7 TV channel "accidentally flew over a strange object" on the basis of the sea aviation in Alamide, which turned out to be an ultralight rocket, reports RIA News.


A video appeared on the web with a new American rocket.


The video was posted on YouTube.

According to the channel, the launch vehicle "is being developed by a startup that does not yet have a name." The company is not in a hurry to spread about its developments, it is only known that it is planned to create the “lightest rocket”.

ABC7 addressed the local authorities, with which the “nameless company” cooperates, and received a brief answer, from which it follows that “the name of the rocket is Astra, its height is 12 meters, the carrier is capable of outputting low-Earth orbit to 100 kilograms of cargo.



Recall that earlier in the United States, the successful launch of the Falcon Heavy super-heavy rocket took place, ensuring the launch into 64 of tons of payloads into orbit. This carrier has a length of 70 meters, which is almost six times more than the Astra rocket.

Russia is also developing a super-heavy rocket that can bring up to 90 tons of cargo into low-Earth orbit and at least 20 tons of tons into near-moon. The lead developer is Energy Corporation.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 20 February 2018 10: 16
    +4
    The big firecracker will work out!
    However, if it works out, have a happy flight ... a new motto - On a rocket in every garden. This is when childhood fantasies come true.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 20 February 2018 10: 27
      +12
      But why doesn’t we have any “startup” at all? Neither Skolkovo, nor Chubais .... Have they tried for a long time ..... to master the money? We shouldn’t laugh at the Americans and firecrackers .. The Queen also had in the 30th firecracker, and even earlier glider ..
      Quote: rocket757
      The big firecracker will work out!
      However, if it works out, have a happy flight ... a new motto - On a rocket in every garden. This is when childhood fantasies come true.
      1. Georgy USSR
        Georgy USSR 20 February 2018 10: 40
        +9
        Our weaving in the tail again. ANGARA was broadcast on all channels !!! Angara !! As a result, it turned out to be a big zilch, as usual loot was stolen
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 20 February 2018 10: 49
          +6
          the carrier is capable of displaying up to 100 kilograms of cargo into low Earth orbit

          I can’t even send my mother-in-law to space smile
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 20 February 2018 14: 05
            +2
            Quote: Thrall
            the carrier is capable of displaying up to 100 kilograms of cargo into low Earth orbit

            I can’t even send my mother-in-law to space smile


            But you can safely send a thermonuclear charge to your mother-in-law, it will fly in about 15 minutes ...
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 20 February 2018 17: 46
              +1
              That's it! But is this missile a living embodiment of the violation by the Americans of the treaty on medium-range missiles ?!
              You can put so many claims on this photo ...
              Even if there is nothing, you can prove 100 times that there is!
              Where is our Foreign Ministry looking?
            2. Thrall
              Thrall 20 February 2018 20: 32
              +1
              Quote: Geisenberg
              But you can safely send a thermonuclear charge to your mother-in-law, it will fly in 15 minutes

              My mother-in-law doesn’t even open the precinct door, and an unfamiliar thermonuclear charge will shove the sender back in an unnatural way smile
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 20 February 2018 12: 34
          +1
          Quote: George USSR
          Our weaving in the tail again. ANGARA was broadcast on all channels !!! Angara !!

          Not the fact that all this "accidentally captured video" is not fake. And it’s not clear whether this miracle of technology flies at all. And also, by the way, the news is already on all channels.
      2. Nasrat
        Nasrat 20 February 2018 11: 36
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        ... But why doesn’t we start a startup with us? Neither Skolkovo, nor Chubais .... They have been trying for a long time ..... to master the money? ....


        Here about Skolkovo:

        https://macos.livejournal.com/1674690.html
      3. Scoun
        Scoun 20 February 2018 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        But here, why doesn’t any startup take care of us?

        Oddly enough ..... S7 did this.
        This is me offhand.
        Space ticket: why S7 bought Sea Launch :: Business :: RBC
        rbc.ru/business/27/09/2016/...
        The main owner of the S7 Group Vladislav Filev said that the company became the owner of the cosmodrome for $ 160 million


        S7 will launch flights into space since 2019 | Rusbase
        rb.ru/news/s7-space/
        Vedomosti writes about this with reference to the co-owner of the company Vladislav Filev, who spoke about the S7 strategy at the Cosmos as a Business forum. ... What kind of missiles are in question, who will develop and produce them is not specified

        But they bought a floating platform, and that really finished me off ... they say that S7 has placed an order for 100 superjets and are going to take up domestic, near and medium air routes.
    2. Crowe
      Crowe 20 February 2018 10: 27
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      On a rocket in every garden.

      In every American garden. With TNT (and not only) filling. am
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 February 2018 10: 31
        +13
        And I can’t even laugh at us ... but sobbing is not appropriate. and the moderator does not order to swear!
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 20 February 2018 10: 40
          +11
          Quote: rocket757
          the moderator does not order to swear!

          Cultured Russian people do not swear, because in Russia a plentiful mate has always been a marker of the lower social classes. However, if you really had the urge to swear, then let us swear not as dead children of globalization, but as real Russian people! Seriously, our native Russian “screeching” or “eldyga” there will catch even the most familiar workers of abuse. We start to swear right

          Ancient Russian curses:

          Ashcheul - a mockingbird, goggle.
          Baba the Wind Race - absurd (b.)
          Balyaba - dead, open (arch.)
          Balamoshka - crazy, sighted
          Hood - red tape (about a man) (dia.)
          Basalay - rude (from “bass” and “barking” - “beautiful to bark”) (volog.)
          Bezpelyuha - slut, dead, open sow (ur.)
          Besoromna woman - shameless (b.)
          Belebenya - pustoplet (chicken) ...
          http://tridevatoecarstvo.com/126-vse-obo-vsem/676
          5-starinnye-russkie-rugatelstva /
          wink
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 February 2018 10: 58
            +3
            I write it down, it will be like our Russian code ... only ours, for accurate identification ... tfu Manyunya, what a long, barely overseas word I wrote!
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              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 20 February 2018 12: 36
                +1
                Basalay, basalay, which basalay?
                good
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 20 February 2018 11: 34
          +6
          Quote: rocket757
          I can’t even laugh at us ... but sobbing is not appropriate. and the moderator does not order to swear!

          You don’t have to laugh at it, the Americans are currently leaders in launching small satellites - the so-called cubsats and poksatsats. The cost of their launch varies slightly depending on the carrier from 80 to 20 thousand. And the development of a lightweight carrier just significantly reduces the cost of a single launch, and since these nano satellites are becoming more and more popular in many countries and private companies, naturally the Americans have every chance of becoming monopolists in this segment of the spacecraft launch market.
          Small spacecraft can be used for:

          Communication systems research
          Calibration of radar and optical space monitoring systems (including passive spacecraft)
          Earth Remote Sensing (ERS)
          Cable Research
          For educational purposes.
          Surely there are options for use for military purposes.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 February 2018 11: 57
            +4
            This cry is called laughter!
            I look, envy, sho can still be said.
            They are ahead of the rest .... for what and how I can’t discuss it, we look only at the facts!
            Yes, I still swear, scold and remember all the red devils at once!
            1. Alexanast
              Alexanast 20 February 2018 12: 54
              +6
              Quote: rocket757
              I remember all the red devils at once!


              Victor, welcome ...
              The joke was remembered:
              "And who will cheat - will get insolent red face"
              P.S. We are thinking about one brow ... bully ??
              1. AID.S
                AID.S 20 February 2018 13: 13
                +1
                Quote: Alexanast
                will get insolent red face

                Alas, the next trench of the Ministry of Finance. sad
              2. rocket757
                rocket757 20 February 2018 13: 14
                +3
                Hello Alexander soldier
                For a joke in good On time and to the place!
                And for the impudent, which is red, I will blame Medmed and put in the flaw until it weighs her in all severity how to bask!
                I’m not a bloodthirsty person in fact, but somehow the theme of the guillotine and truncation of the tail to my ears is so recalled !!! this event would please many, it would certainly and certainly inspire many that it was high time to give all the sisters earrings! ....
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 20 February 2018 10: 33
        +3
        Spent it the one who spends?
    3. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 20 February 2018 10: 34
      +8
      Quote: rocket757
      However, if possible, a happy flight ...

      their successes are impressive, and ours are surviving the backlog of the USSR, in 5-10 years we’ll find ourselves deep down, everything is completely riddled with corruption, science is resting ....
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 February 2018 11: 00
        +4
        Prospects are possible ... and what are our prospects? Only one thing, we will break through not for, but against all odds!
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 20 February 2018 11: 11
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Prospects are possible ... and what are our prospects? Only one thing, we will break through not for, but against all odds!

          fresh tradition - yes hard to believe
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 February 2018 11: 53
            +2
            Himself most often in doubt, there is no certainty in our lives now ... but we will break through, for sure.
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 20 February 2018 11: 44
        +2
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        their success is impressive
        We are in the know ...
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 20 February 2018 11: 47
          +4
          And why is there a photo from the crew training?
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 20 February 2018 12: 54
            +8
            Quote: BlackMokona
            And why is there a photo from the crew training?

            Did Amstrong tell you this?
            David Gelentner, Advisor to President Trump for Science and Technology:
            "The Apollo moon landings are the biggest fraud in mankind's history, even worse than all that global warming nonsense" is a direct text from his words. ...
            “In the modern age, we have never been outside the Earth's magnetic field" (In modern times, we have never been outside the magnetic field of the Earth ....
            In general, from the point of view of physics, flights outside the Earth’s magnetic field are extremely dangerous for humans. The Earth’s magnetic and gravitational fields slow down and land high-energy particles of the cosmic wind and filter out the harsh ultraviolet and X-ray radiation of the Sun. Without a very serious defense, a person is not able to jump in a light aluminum suit on the lunar surface bombarded by direct sunlight. Even in the ship - this is a big problem. Finding a person outside the earth's field is a huge problem in principle. Especially in the "tin can" of Apollo.

            Specialists, of course, know about this, but when propaganda mechanisms are turned on, specialists go through the woods. So far, everything looks so that after a defeat in the space orbital race, America needed a resounding victory at all costs. And Hollywood came to the rescue, most likely, Kubrick and the pavilion in Arizona. And we know that a little lie gives rise to a big lie. America was unable to stop and continued such a successful economic and informational program of lies in star wars, global warming, "masked flights."
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 20 February 2018 13: 40
              +1
              Question;
              How quickly will dust settle on the Moon after raising it into space, when the Moon has an attraction less than 6 times that of the Earth and has no atmosphere?
              Earth, Acceleration of free fall 9,807 m / s²
              Moon; Acceleration of gravity: 1,622 m / s²
              According to the idea, the dust should hang in a cloud, but all the videos show that the dust instantly falls back to the surface, almost like on the ground or like wet sand ... recourse
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 20 February 2018 13: 57
                +4
                Quote: XXXIII
                Question;

                Quote: XXXIII
                Earth Acceleration

                Quote: XXXIII
                Moon; Acceleration

                Yes, okay there on the moon ... They are courageously rockets, engines are being invented now to take off the earth ... And why? After all, they already “invented” them 50 years ago. Or not? What should you just assemble using old technologies and not steam?
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 20 February 2018 14: 20
                  +1
                  1. Statement by adviser Trump invented the site of humorous news, this fact the site itself does not hide a bit
                  2. About dust you forgot that there is no atmosphere on the moon. Thanks to it, the dust stays in the air for a long time on Earth, without the atmosphere, it will quickly fall, even with lunar gravity.
                  3. Forget about Delta-4. The United States did not lose even a second the opportunity to throw its satellites into orbit on its engines.
                  4.Soviet turtles circled the moon without any protection and returned perfectly healthy to Earth.
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 20 February 2018 16: 01
                    +1
                    Quote: XXXIII
                    Question;
                    How quickly will dust settle on the Moon after raising it into space, when the Moon has an attraction less than 6 times that of the Earth and has no atmosphere?
                    Earth, Acceleration of free fall 9,807 m / s²
                    Moon; Acceleration of gravity: 1,622 m / s²
                    According to the idea, the dust should hang in a cloud, but all the videos show that the dust instantly falls back to the surface, almost like on the ground or like wet sand ... recourse

                    In zero gravity, dust flies along with sand and stones along the same path. Under conditions 1/6 of the Earth’s gravity, a stone will fly up to 216 times higher than the same stone on earth
                    And now the video
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 20 February 2018 18: 39
                      +3
                      And what is wrong with the video? You forget that the rest mass has not changed and the throw speed remains the same. Only the rate of fall changes. But the difference greatly compensates for the lack of atmosphere. With such arguments, you can raise the dust in the apartment and "prove" that scientists are lying about the speed of free fall on Earth by measuring the speed of dust settling. According to the analysis of lunar regolith by Soviet scientists, it is very viscous. Yes, and in the footsteps you can see. So on Earth, dust would not rise to a significant height at all
                      1. XXXIII
                        XXXIII 20 February 2018 20: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        . But the difference greatly compensates for the lack of atmosphere.
                        But what about the doubt on the moon? The rover must push the dust high into space, there are no obstacles and resistance, too, because the attraction is low on the moon, not like on earth. Also, astronauts, when jumping for movement, do not immediately land on the surface of the moon, because the same conditions apply to them ?!
                      2. XXXIII
                        XXXIII 20 February 2018 20: 17
                        0
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        Let's make it simpler and easier, the Soviet moonwalker crawled along the moon. Did he raise the dust that you are looking for or not?
                        And with what speed did the Lunokhod move along the surface of the moon ?! not like a rover on the video ?!
                      3. XXXIII
                        XXXIII 20 February 2018 20: 36
                        0
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        According to the analysis of lunar regolith by Soviet scientists, it is very viscous. Yes, and in the footsteps you can see. So on Earth, dust would not rise to a significant height at all


                        The atmosphere of the moon is an extremely rarefied gas shell of the moon, ten trillion times less dense (surface pressure of about 10 nPa) compared to the Earth’s atmosphere, consisting mainly of hydrogen, helium, neon and argon. Virtually no effect on the moon.

                        Sources of the atmosphere are both internal processes (gas evolution from the Moon’s crust and volcanism), as well as external ones - micrometeorite falls, solar wind. The moon does not hold on to all the released gases, because it has weak gravity; most of the gases rising from its surface are scattered in space.

                        In 1991, researchers from Boston University discovered a sodium tail that extends up to 15–20 moon radii in the direction opposite to the sun
                      4. BARKHAN
                        BARKHAN 20 February 2018 23: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        According to the analysis of lunar regolith by Soviet scientists, it is very viscous.

                        By the way, regarding regolith ... Do you know what a slope angle is? Take an interest.
                        The angle of repose of the Soviet lunar regolith is 45 g. It was obtained in the absence of moisture in a helium gas medium. In the photo of the Americans, the EO angle is 90 g.
                    2. XXXIII
                      XXXIII 20 February 2018 19: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: Shurik70
                      In zero gravity, dust flies along with sand and stones along the same path. Under conditions 1/6 of the Earth’s gravity, a stone will fly up to 216 times higher than the same stone on earth
                      That is, the rover’s wheel will raise-push “dust, stones” that will not be subject to the same influence as on the ground and will fly along the path along which they were pushed ?! Or at least dust - stones will not have to fall back to the surface as quickly as in the video ?!
                      1. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 20 February 2018 20: 14
                        0
                        Let's make it simpler and easier, the Soviet moonwalker crawled along the moon. Did he raise the dust that you are looking for or not?
                      2. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 20 February 2018 22: 04
                        +2
                        No one took the Soviet lunar rover from the side, but it left clear traces in the lunar soil. There is no video from the moon rover, only photos
                        At the expense of moon dust. In the video, heavy grains of sand fall faster than light grains. In a vacuum, this should not be.
                    3. XXXIII
                      XXXIII 20 February 2018 22: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Shurik70
                      No one took the Soviet lunar rover from the side, but it left clear traces in the lunar soil. There is no video from the moon rover, only photos
                      At the expense of moon dust. In the video, heavy grains of sand fall faster than light grains. In a vacuum, this should not be.
                      Yes, the dust doesn’t fly evenly on the video, (0.33 -0.39 dust flies cool, come back john lol ), although it should fall the same way and the lunar rover should toss from the surface too, and it will ride like sand on the ground .... repeat
                      An ideal free fall is possible only in a vacuum, where there is no air resistance force, and regardless of mass, density and shape, all bodies fall equally fast, that is, at any moment in time the bodies have the same instantaneous speeds and accelerations.
                  2. Pingo
                    Pingo 28 February 2018 09: 53
                    0
                    Soon 10 years after they lost, Delta can launch far from any load. Crawling American Mars rovers, new horizons and Cassini-hugens that were all delivered there not with their help. And so far since 2011, not a single manned launch.
                2. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 20 February 2018 14: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: Barkhan
                  Yes, okay there on the moon ... They are courageously rockets, engines are being invented now to take off the earth ... And why? After all, they already “invented” them 50 years ago. Or not? What should you just assemble using old technologies and not steam?
                  good They and the wheel will invent a new one, you see, the Americans also discovered the universe .... lol
                  1. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 20 February 2018 23: 40
                    +3
                    Quote: XXXIII
                    They and the wheel will invent a new one, you see, the Americans also discovered the universe ....

                    When the "astronauts" were asked to swear on the Bible that they were on the moon, they all refused for some reason ....
                    falsifications of lunar missions:
                    1. The absence of any new knowledge about the moon after all American expeditions.
                    2. The fact that supposedly Lunar soil is forever hidden and classified (private ownership of it is a criminal offense in the USA) is indirect evidence of the falsity of this soil.
                    3. The fact that the message about the landing of the Americans on the moon is still not
                    published in no scientific (peer-reviewed) journal of the world.
                    4. The fact that all the parameters of the flight path of the Americans “to the moon” were carefully hidden from the USSR, which could confirm by their own means the completion of these flights, such as Great Britain, observing the flight of Soviet stations to the moon along the paths reported to the USSR, confirmed the implementation The Soviet Union of its lunar programs.
                    5. The fact that one of the command compartments (A-13) was caught
                    reconnaissance ships of the USSR in the Atlantic, turned out to be an empty fake for inspection, however, was secretly transferred to the USA
                  2. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 20 February 2018 23: 40
                    +3
                    6. The fact that the United States still does not have a rocket engine of the power that was allegedly used in the program of manned flights to the moon.
                    7. The fact that after these "flights to the moon" the exploration of the moon almost completely ceased in the United States and the USSR.
                    8. The fact that the ruling elite of the USSR blocked the information channels from the USA to such an extent that even the specialists of the space and rocket industry of the USSR did not know that, starting from the first flights to the Moon, scientific and technical literature on the falsity of these flights appeared in the USA itself.
                    9. The fact that various analyzes showed that the pieces of the American “lunar soil” presented for research were false.
                    10. The fact that in the photo “from the moon” there are no stars.
                    11. The fact that in the photo “from the Moon” the length of the shadows does not correspond to the position of the Sun above the horizon.
                    12. The fact that the photo "from the moon" highlights objects in the shade.
                    13. The fact that in the photo “from the Moon” the illumination of the surface does not correspond to the sun (illuminated by studio lamps).
                    14. The fact that in the photo "from the moon" the astronaut traces are imprinted in moist soil.
                  3. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 20 February 2018 23: 41
                    +3
                    15. The fact that the flag sways in the wind on film shots “from the Moon”.

                    16. The fact that on motion pictures “from the moon” the movement of objects does not correspond to the real gravity on the moon.

                    17. The fact that the behavior of American astronauts does not correspond to the degree of danger in which, according to legend, they were in the photo and film shots “from the Moon”.

                    18. In the United States there is a holiday "Pancake Day", "Cyclist's Day". There is NO celebration of the conquest of the moon!

                    19. American "astronauts" refused to swear on the Bible that they flew to the moon.

                    20. After the failed tests of the lunar module above the ground and A-6, new unmanned tests should take place. Since they were not there, no one could get to the moon without a rocket and LM.
                    22. In 2011, NASA banned the passage and landing of spacecraft over the alleged landing sites of the Apollo on the moon

                    23. In NASA's photographic materials, there is no flame from LM against a black sky.

                    24. There is no dust on the body and supports of the LM with mountains of this dust already 3 meters from it.

                    25. NASA is actively working to eliminate fake fragments in photo and video materials. At the end of the 20th century, the duration of the video start of the LM A-17 was increased, the "dead" frames disappeared in the Galileo experiment video, retouching was removed, etc.
                  4. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 20 February 2018 23: 42
                    +3
                    26. Real vacuum suns, photographed from the ISS and even the Shuttle, do not have a halo and are ten times smaller than NASA's searchlights that mimic the sun in a photo supposedly from the Moon.
                    27. In the dozen photos of NASA under the rover, there are no tracks from the wheels.
                    28. NASA did not remove a single giant crater the size of a kilometer or more from the surface of the moon through a 16 mm camera.
                    29. The soil brought from the Moon and the Moon itself in the photo "Probe-7" are brown. Almost all of NASA’s photos from the moon’s surface are gray.
                    30. In all NASA's photos from the lunar surface, the actors were shot in imitators of spacesuits without an internal pressure of 0.4 A, which allows limbs to be bent to an angle of 45g.
                    31. Absolutely in all photos, American astronauts are depicted on their feet and smiling after long flights. Psychomotor did not suffer them.
                    32. American astronauts did not see stars in space.
                    33. Hundreds of NASA photos (especially the A-15) have not passed parallax tests. Those. the "mountains" of the distant plan are not located 6-10 km, tens of meters away.
                    34. Under LM, not a single mission has the slightest hint of a funnel, although all the landings of 6 missions were allegedly made into dust.
                    35. The angle of repose of the Soviet lunar regolith is 45 gr. It was obtained in the absence of moisture in a helium gas medium. In the photo of Americans, Wal EO is 90 g.
                    36. The modern accuracy of rocket landing is plus or minus 40 km. This forces them to search for dozens of ships or aircraft.
                    Americans never searched for their "astronauts" with more than 2 vessels.
                    37. Cosmic radiation outside the magnetosphere poses a serious danger requiring enhanced protective measures. It is radiation safety that is the limiting factor that does not allow raising the altitude of the orbits of manned space exploration above 600 km.
                    38. The spacesuits declared for Apollo A7L missions were lighter than the current spacesuits for DOEs (low Earth orbit no higher than 600 km)
                    39. The absence of a magnetic field on the moon is one of the factors determining the impossibility of life on the lunar surface. Costumes under the Apollo A7L program did not have the declared means of creating an artificial magnetic field.
                    40. NASA lacked the means of dispensing natural need for weightlessness, other than diapers. This circumstance casts doubt on the well-being after three weeks in a closed space of three people.
                    41. Staying in a completely oxygen atmosphere adversely affects a person’s well-being.
                    42. NASA did not have the means to conduct automatic docking in orbit. And these operations had to be performed at least 2 in one mission.
                    43. The absence in the design of Apollo descent vehicles of special anatomical lodges made precisely according to the body of specific people. Such lodgements are made for all astronauts. Without a lodgement, the probability of injury from overload during braking in the atmosphere and landing is very high.
                    1. XXXIII
                      XXXIII 20 February 2018 23: 56
                      +1
                      43 rebuttals is strong, thanks ... laughing hi
                      As a layman, I was attracted only by dust, which flies either along the trajectory or sometimes does not fall evenly ....
                      Here on the segment it can be seen that the dust just flies out of the cloud, but according to observations it should break away from the moon no higher than the wheel or fly into space since it loses the force of attraction of the moon .... what
                      1. BARKHAN
                        BARKHAN 21 February 2018 00: 18
                        +4
                        Quote: XXXIII
                        43 rebuttals is strong, thanks ..

                        So there are even more. Just too lazy to dig ...
                        From the last Chinese pictures ... what is the color of the soil ...
                        Here is the American version ...

                        but Chinese. by the way, our soil is also brown ...
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 20 February 2018 21: 20
                0
                And the dust on the moon did not quickly set - it flew about a meter and a half across the surface, from the small movements of the shoes of the astronauts. This effect was removed at all the landings - it is irrefutable evidence that there were flights and landings on the moon.
                1. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 20 February 2018 23: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  And the dust on the moon did not quickly set - it flew about a meter and a half across the surface, from the small movements of the shoes of the astronauts.
                  If the dust in the vacuum should fall evenly, plus the attractive force is small, is there any dust that has overcome the force of attraction of the moon, should fly into space ?!
        2. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 20 February 2018 12: 16
          0
          Quote: Barkhan
          We are in the know ...

          wrote for trolls -
          Quote: BlackMokona
          And why is there a photo from the crew training?
    4. NordUral
      NordUral 20 February 2018 13: 17
      +2
      Why is it a firecracker? Have you seen the performance characteristics already? You don’t have to laugh, you have to take note. And everything must be done so that in March a team comes to power that can not only revive Russia, but also bring it to new frontiers. Well done Americans. We need to act in the same way, and not nightingales to spill over our achievements. And you just read - someone there can start production, can do the like, and the result is a new circle of old songs. Silently and productively, as with Comrade Stalin needs.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 February 2018 13: 54
        +1
        Please announce the whole list .... otherwise many languish in doubt.
        And it’s better to give out those for whom you don’t need to vote / worry, then the text for the comment will be typed.
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 February 2018 10: 18
    +4
    "Accidentally flew over a strange object"
    It does not happen by chance in such cases. We, too, “accidentally” lit up a table with a torpedo on TV, so the Americans still cannot calm down. They survive, they do not sleep at night, they think, and what to oppose to this. And here is a racket with a payload of only 100 kg. It was possible not to fly by chance.
    1. Berber
      Berber 20 February 2018 10: 54
      +2
      Two goals are achieved by this stuffing:
      1. USA is a leading space power.
      2. Drawing Russia into the race.
      Both goals lead to financial losses for Russia. And also, periodically, missiles fall from us (and not once with American satellites).
    2. Horon
      Horon 20 February 2018 11: 29
      +2
      "Random is not accidental!" ©
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 20 February 2018 13: 21
      0
      And you, Trump, listen with his idea about mini-nuclear ammunition. Mini, of course, conditionally, so with Hiroshima. It was then that they were big and heavy. and now tiny, but powerful. And Trampushko is already allocating money for this, if he has not already allocated it. We are laughing in vain. I'm here in St. Petersburg, not at all funny.
  3. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 20 February 2018 10: 19
    +7
    A helicopter of the ABC7 TV channel “accidentally flew over a strange object” on the basis of naval aviation in Alamida, which turned out to be an ultralight missile, RIA Novosti reports.
    Helicopters over airbases are not random. They simply "lit up the layout" for promotion in the press and further attracting investments in some sort of regular super-super-project. Looks like all Wishlist is not enough, even the rubber American budget.
    1. Serpent Pliskin
      Serpent Pliskin 20 February 2018 10: 21
      +2
      when it flies, then we'll talk?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 20 February 2018 11: 19
        -1
        100 kg of displayed cargo? No, not interesting.
        It’s you who are talking in a circle in your teenage company, looking at the portrait of Mask.
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 20 February 2018 13: 21
        0
        When they fly, we may not have time to find out.
  4. gig334
    gig334 20 February 2018 10: 20
    +1
    Ordinary missile, now you won’t surprise anyone, everyone is waiting for hypersonic missiles with flights of more than 8 flights. We hope that they will be in service with Russia before everyone else.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 20 February 2018 10: 37
      +7
      Do not be surprised? How is it that they gathered how to bask on your knee! Not some kind of super-fucking corporation !!!
      Missiles to the masses are of course superfluous, however dangerous. but understand. sho people gathered together for a rocket! We didn’t take away the denyushka anywhere and collected the declared product !!!
      If she also flies! If it puts a payload into orbit! In short, there is some if, it’s understandable, but the event itself is important .... we still need to understand how and what can be achieved TOGETHER !!! Understand and accept as a guide to action!
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 20 February 2018 10: 45
      +6
      Why? Now nanosatellites are developing rapidly. Plus, the satellites themselves actually reduce weight due to minimization and new technologies.

      Such missiles may well find a market. Throwing her target satellites in 70-90kg will be cheaper than throwing them at Sobze / 9 along the way. Plus, there is no need to wait for a ride with a slot. Plus, there is less likelihood that only the target will work out normally, and the rest will be screwed. Plus, not every small satellite can be abandoned in passing.

      The topic of light rockets is quite profitable. Yes, the same Electron is a light rocket from the New Zealand Queen. And nothing - here in May it flies to the moon, and with a landing load.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 February 2018 11: 18
        +2
        All the complex equipment used to be assembled at very large specialized enterprises!
        May the time come when this rule should be changed?
        Not in every barn, of course, but these guys are nothing like tractor drivers and plumbers, a fully developed community of people united by one idea, one goal.
        We would not be in the tail of events !!! That's what excites, in principle!
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 20 February 2018 11: 27
        -1
        Cheaper?
        Well here is an example. You have some equipment, with a total weight of 10 tons, in the form of 10 boxes of 1 ton each. You need to deliver it for 1000 km.
        What do you choose - one truck that will immediately deliver 10 tons, or 10 to 1 tons? Which is cheaper?
        Plus, satellites weighing 100 kg are short-lived, low-energy devices. What could such a thing do? You can’t place any serious equipment on it. Most likely there are no engines either. it will not be able to maneuver.
        Unless a military application is what, with a mass launch, but to be honest, it does not come to mind yet.
        Is that the near-Earth space a dirt?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 20 February 2018 12: 04
          +2
          With satellites, everything is not so obvious. They rarely need to be delivered in one place, such as in one pile? and pulling them to their planned places is not a cheap and complicated process.
          So sho analogy with the earth, such as logistics, does not roll.
          They will count the money, make conclusions and the process will either go or die naturally.
          Time will tell.
  5. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 20 February 2018 10: 30
    +1
    Yes, cartridges are being brought up ... by a trailer, such a test cartridge. Who remembers Kwaku2 ??? There was such a BIG gun, which looked from the surface in the sky - IT HAS inflicted IT. Kwaka comes true.
    "Russia is also developing a superheavy rocket that can bring up to 90 tons of cargo into low Earth orbit and at least 20 tons into the moon orbit. The lead developer is Energia Corporation." - NO REINCARNATION (who will say WHAT?) ... that's what Max life-giving does wassat
    1. Ren
      Ren 20 February 2018 11: 22
      0
      Quote: viktor_ui
      REINCARNATION (who will say WHAT?) ...

      H-1, (GUKOS index - 11A52) hi
  6. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 20 February 2018 10: 43
    +3
    That is, it’s quite a medium-range ballistic missile. I think if something like this is shown here, the howl will rise above the very orbit to which the rocket should deliver 100kg what
  7. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 20 February 2018 10: 54
    +2
    The usefulness of such a missile for voiced goals is extremely doubtful. The described characteristics and form indicate that it is most likely developed for mobile launchers. And the class roughly corresponds to a medium or short range ballistic missile. Well, yes, because the United States does not violate the INF Treaty ... Well .... then yes, it’s a rocket for throwing micro-trash into outer space ....
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 February 2018 11: 07
      +1
      Why? The cost of launching such a rocket is somewhere around 10 million dollars.
      For launching a satellite, for example, 3 million will be taken. A satellite can cost 20-50 million.
      A $ 3 million launch is excellent. good
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 20 February 2018 11: 14
      +2
      If this is the American Pershing-3 - then I am disappointed in the Americans.

      As for the rest - on the contrary. Starting from the installation is quite normal for small missiles. Again, you do not need to maintain infrastructure, for example, again under Electron they contain a spaceport, but they contain a small one. For Asters, this will not be necessary. That is, again, a little money was saved.


      There is quite a lot of microclum now. Take a recent example:
      PSLV-C40 - the Hindu death minibus brought 2 large satellites (700 and 130kg) and another 28 small satellites from 30 and less than kg. Including quite a serious customer from South Korea and the United States.

      The Union in February picked up 4 S-net from Germany and 4 Lemur - each 9kg each.

      Tomorrow at 9 - fly 2 test satellite Starlink. But this is Musk - he will not give his Starlink to anyone - yes. But do not forget about the competition ... What kind of thread the telecommunications giant will be able to make a similar project - so as not to lose its market in the future. And they will need a rocket.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 20 February 2018 11: 20
        +2
        On utility, one of the groups of nanosatellites on an Hindu rocket is called upon to study the planet in 63 light years - Beta Pictoris b. This will be one of the most detailed studies of a distant planet today. Mission 1 year.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 20 February 2018 11: 38
          -1
          Beta Pictoris b is 63 light years away.
          What nanosatellites can get there with the current level of technology?
          And where can you read about this project?
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 20 February 2018 12: 45
            +1
            He does not fly on 63 light guide. The light is flying. This is a space-conservatory that will monitor the 1 system for the whole year of operation.
            http://spaceflight101.com/pslv-c40/picsat/

            In general, CubSat is a very popular topic today. There in May such a satellite flies to Mars.
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 20 February 2018 11: 14
      +1
      Utility, the need for large missiles yet. There is nothing to throw into orbit anywhere and no one ... Mask the identity of a car for plizir threw, to the point then. No load for them. Maybe later, sales for sure, but when will it be ???
      Frank trifle, too, is not necessary for fireworks and there may be competition. Everything is pre-scheduled, sold out and competitors are not expected here, but as a concept, like any whim for your money, it can go. In short, we will see how it goes and is worthless to us, the great cosmic power, to lag behind events!
  8. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 20 February 2018 10: 57
    0
    Well, the private owners divorced! Easy guys, hold your rockets))
    1. Viktor.12.71
      Viktor.12.71 20 February 2018 11: 16
      0
      Competition is the engine of everything. At this pace, it is possible by 2050 that they will invent full-fledged spaceships, as in films. Then the colonization of the universe is just a matter of a couple of centuries.
      1. In100gram
        In100gram 20 February 2018 19: 32
        0
        Quote: Viktor.12.71
        Competition is the engine of everything.

        There are many things, a control system, navigation, fuel storage, life support systems and further on the list. Make a rocket - don't cook stewed fruit in the kitchen
  9. Serpent Pliskin
    Serpent Pliskin 20 February 2018 11: 06
    +1
    Here he is the bestial grin of capitalism!
  10. Berkut24
    Berkut24 20 February 2018 11: 12
    +2
    ABC7 addressed the local authorities, with which the “nameless company” cooperates, and received a brief answer, from which it follows that “the name of the rocket is Astra, its height is 12 meters, the carrier is capable of outputting low-Earth orbit to 100 kilograms of cargo.

    Here you can scoff at the development as you like, but I dare to notice that we have before us the fact of developing a short- and medium-range missile (possibly mine-based), which the United States does not have the right to develop under the INF Treaty. Nameless companies do not exist, and I suspect that when the name of the developer company is announced, it may turn out to be very famous. In addition, in the United States, it is impossible to develop and manufacture rocket launchers without the permission of the Pentagon and other regulatory authorities in order to avoid the transfer of rocket technology to third countries.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 February 2018 21: 06
      0
      Can develop. Both Russia and the USA. They cannot deploy as a weapon under a contract.
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 21 February 2018 20: 37
        0
        They cannot develop. When ours experienced the first step from the "Yars", then the stench from the US was ... Neither develop nor experience.
  11. AntiFREEZ
    AntiFREEZ 20 February 2018 11: 13
    +1
    Is this already an American private trader developing rockets? Third or fourth?
    Quote: rocket757
    And I can’t even laugh at us ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 20 February 2018 11: 28
      +1
      From in iron:
      Musk, Bezos, Branson (but Virgin has an air start - this is not exactly a rocket, or rather a rocket or rocket glider only on Stage 2).
  12. Mestny
    Mestny 20 February 2018 11: 17
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    But why doesn’t we have any “startup” at all? Neither Skolkovo, nor Chubais .... Have they tried for a long time ..... to master the money? We shouldn’t laugh at the Americans and firecrackers .. The Queen also had in the 30th firecracker, and even earlier glider ..

    They have other directions, not building rockets.
    In the 30s, Korolev had ... And these appeared in 2017, after 80 years. There is something to be proud of, yes.
    Well, of course, there is reason to cry to our displeased. It doesn’t matter for what reason.
  13. HMR333
    HMR333 20 February 2018 11: 49
    0
    well, excellent two bags of potatoes in about the Earth’s orbit if you believe that everything flies deliver!
  14. HMR333
    HMR333 20 February 2018 11: 53
    0
    Quote: George of the USSR
    Our weaving in the tail again. ANGARA was broadcast on all channels !!! Angara !! As a result, it turned out to be a big zilch, as usual loot was stolen

    Do you even think that you write with your head! who needs an expensive rocket that displays a load of scales in two bags of potatoes, it's like a green worm iskander!
  15. Guru
    Guru 20 February 2018 12: 26
    0
    Is it not a medium-range missile? The Americans are already breaking into a blatant treaty.
    am
    1. KonoGon
      KonoGon 20 February 2018 13: 16
      +2
      Quote: Guru
      Is it not a medium-range missile
      This rocket is called a trampoline.
  16. Lexus
    Lexus 20 February 2018 16: 02
    +1
    Very similar to GBI.

    In principle, if there is any flying rocket, even a missile defense interceptor, it can be converted to deliver small loads (nanosatellites, for example) into orbit. And then, taken off duty, do not “saw”, but use for business. Or, by changing the GP, for other purposes, use, for example, as a ballistic missile system. TTX allow. Our kypezha is not without reason on this occasion.
    1. In100gram
      In100gram 20 February 2018 19: 36
      0
      Quote: lexus
      In principle, if there is any flying rocket, even a missile defense interceptor, it can be converted to deliver small loads (nanosatellites, for example) into orbit. And then, taken off duty, do not “saw”, but use for business.

      We already have a voivode with an overclocking unit for outputting such loads
    2. Mimoprohodil
      Mimoprohodil 20 February 2018 22: 33
      +1
      Quote: lexus
      Or, by changing the GP, for other purposes, use, for example, as a BRDS
      51T6 doesn’t even need to be changed
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 20 February 2018 22: 42
        0
        She does not fly too far. hi
        200-300 km 51T6 (when diving onto a ground target) versus 2500-3000 (possibly further) the GBI will have a "liquid". Is that "special ammunition" effectively "shoot yourself." hi
  17. Do not care
    Do not care 21 February 2018 16: 38
    0
    Shurik70,

    Quote: Shurik70
    No one took the Soviet lunar rover from the side, but it left clear traces in the lunar soil. There is no video from the moon rover, only photos
    At the expense of moon dust. On in the lungs. In a vacuum, this should not be.



    Hammer and feather sell synchronously




    Can someone tell us how Kubrick pumped all the air in a Hollywood studio?
  18. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 21 February 2018 19: 59
    +1
    Quote: rocket757
    The big firecracker will work out!
    However, if it works out, have a happy flight ... a new motto - On a rocket in every garden. This is when childhood fantasies come true.


    Not "past", but rightly it will be "pain".
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 February 2018 20: 48
      +1
      We will also survive the pain, not the first time and let's make Schaub's childhood dreams still come true ... not children so at least for grandchildren!
      Today I’m such an optimist, in my mood ... either the weather is good, or I’ve blazed up something optimistic!
  19. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 21 February 2018 20: 05
    0
    Quote: Do not care
    Shurik70,

    Quote: Shurik70
    No one took the Soviet lunar rover from the side, but it left clear traces in the lunar soil. There is no video from the moon rover, only photos
    At the expense of moon dust. On in the lungs. In a vacuum, this should not be.



    Hammer and feather sell synchronously




    Can someone tell us how Kubrick pumped all the air in a Hollywood studio?

    Cool, of course.
    But whoever stole 250 kg from Pin_dosov. lunar soil that they "rolled" from the moon?
    Soviet leaders gave the lunar soil to other states, pin-dos say that they have it (lunar soil) simply spiz_ili!
    That's how it happens !!!!! laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    1. Do not care
      Do not care 22 February 2018 03: 52
      0
      250 kilograms of lunar soil is more expensive than 250 kg of gold. I would also be his sp **** l if I could. Someone apparently turned out.

      But seriously, here it is:

      https://vakhnenko.livejournal.com/241952.html
      The man described everything in detail.