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Israel and the United States tested missile defense systems to intercept missiles in space

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The Israeli Defense Ministry announced the successful testing of the Hetz-3 anti-missile system (Arrow-3, Arrow-3). The tests were conducted by Israel Aerospace Industries and representatives of the Israeli Air Force, together with representatives of the Missile Defense Agency of the US Department of Defense, according to the Twitter of the Ministry of Defense of the country


"Hetz-3" - a joint development of Israel and the United States to intercept ballistic missiles in near space. The next step is the final test of the complex, it will be held in Alaska.

Israel and the United States tested missile defense systems to intercept missiles in space


In the design of "Hetz-3" the principle of hit-to-kill, which involves the destruction of the target by direct hit of the anti-missile warhead, is implemented. Experts suggest that it can also be used as an anti-satellite weapons.
The Israeli anti-missile forces are already equipped with the Patriot and Hetz complexes of earlier versions, designed to combat the Iranian shihabs and Syrian scads, and the Iron Dome batteries, which are capable of shooting down short-range missiles like the Palestinian tents. "and" grads ".

Intermediate between them is the "Sling of David." Its main purpose, according to local media, is to intercept missiles with a range from 70 to 300 kilometers, of which the militants of the Lebanese Hezbollah movement are particularly numerous. Last year, the Israeli authorities announced the successful completion of tests of this system and the beginning of its entry into the troops.
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  1. Dormidont
    Dormidont 19 February 2018 11: 01
    +10
    Stopudovo - against Palestinian ICBMs
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 19 February 2018 11: 05
      +8
      Oh well. Intercept dozens of warheads and dozens of false targets simultaneously from one launch? belay Nobody can cope with this task except Israel.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 19 February 2018 11: 39
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Oh well. Intercept dozens of warheads and dozens of false targets simultaneously from one launch? belay Nobody can cope with this task except Israel.
        Invent the wheel, the laser will be more convenient .... wink
        Israel has near-space radars or they will do this with the help of a network of satellites, which will act as mini-radars. After all, the warhead must be sent to the target or is it homing .... laughing
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 19 February 2018 16: 54
        0
        Poroshenko with Turchinov can also. Are they no worse?
    2. 210ox
      210ox 19 February 2018 11: 06
      +4
      But if the warhead maneuvers .. Does it still hit? Or is it still a publicity stunt?
      1. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 19 February 2018 11: 33
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        But if the warhead maneuvers .. Does it still hit? Or is it still a publicity stunt?

        Do they have targets that can do such tricks? If they were, the Americans would have long trumpeted that they had maneuvering warheads.
    3. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 19 February 2018 11: 23
      +4
      No, the guys are doing a lot of trolls announcing the following tests in Alaska. We don’t have missiles in Chukotka, why are they doing this? They want something to happen again? It's easy to fix it.
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 19 February 2018 11: 53
        +4
        The flight paths of our IBR are just through Alaska and pass
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 20 February 2018 00: 55
          0
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          No, the guys are doing a lot of trolls announcing the following tests in Alaska. We don’t have missiles in Chukotka, why are they doing this? They want something to happen again? It's easy to fix it.

          Quote: Korax71
          The flight paths of our IBR are just through Alaska and pass

          Suggest to the states - Do not want the flights of Russian ICBMs through Alaska - return it to Russia! And the rockets will not fly through it!
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    4. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 19 February 2018 11: 52
      +7
      Quote: Dormidont
      Stopudovo - against Palestinian ICBMs

      So I thought - and with whom is God's chosen one in space to fight ???.
      Right now they’ll sniff, fly, start phrases of five words per quote, grab one word at a time and troll every word with natural acrimony, puff out your cheeks and chest with a wheel so that your back does not seem to be a hunchback ...
      It would not be necessary to write news about the Promised Land on IN. Do not touch them - you will not catch sewage in your ears ... With all due respect to the small but proud barren piece of land in the Middle East ....
      1. ZVO
        ZVO 19 February 2018 14: 10
        +6
        Quote: Zoldat_A

        So I thought - and with whom is God's chosen one in space to fight ???.


        And you did not think to see the story?
        I will remind you.

        Gulf War One.
        Israel is not in the coalition. No.
        Then they did not participate in any way.
        Neither informally nor officially.
        Not at all.

        What did not stop Iraq is to take and bullet 40 scads across the territory of Israel.

        And yes, then Syria, and Qatar, and the Saudis, and Bahrain, and the Emirates, and Egypt fought against Iraq.

        But Israel did not intervene.
        But he was shot at ...

        Something like this.

        Learn Ustoria, military technology.
        But not the propaganda manuals.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 19 February 2018 14: 40
          +5
          Quote: ZVO
          Learn Ustoria, military technology.
          But not the propaganda manuals.

          The history of military technology was last taught at a military school several decades ago. And the papagandist training manuals (appreciated humor!) Did not even read in the army service, for there was already something to do ...
          My military specialty considers missiles and everything connected with them only as an object of order for capture or sabotage. If you know so much about missiles and military-technical history, then please clarify to me - at a range of 300 km, does the P-17 reach the upper point of the trajectory into near space? If yes - then never mind a parabola. If not, then what does the SCUDE have to do with the conversation about the defeat of targets in near space.
          He taught body movement in a parabola at school, at a military school on the 1 course, and at a civilian university. If the range is only 300 km, then even with a “cannon” shot the maximum height is only 150 km (very roughly) -

          You can, of course, consider this as "near space", but the calculation for the creation of these missiles in Israel (and in America in the first place!) did not go to 150 km, not to SCADA and absolutely not to Iran or Palestine .... Like missiles in Poland against Iraq and North Korea ....
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 19 February 2018 17: 10
            +1
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            If you know so much about missiles and military-technical history,


            I don’t know about rockets ...

            I know that almost 30 years ago they were thrown with rockets.
            Those who did not participate in the attack on Iraq, those who did not release a single aircraft.
            And the fact that over the past 30 years the level of technicians in the Arab countries has developed very strongly.
            And that the potential of Iran is much higher than it was at the level of R-17.
            The same Saud - bought rockets from China.
            And so they can hit on Israel.
            So they want to protect themselves from all possible misfortunes.
            And the fact that they develop their potential much better. what they need and sell their achievements to the Americans is their right.
            We sell our products to the Chinese or Indians.

            Everything just changes very quickly.
            I recall once again, in the early 90s, Americans with yugas kissed their gums.
            Back in the early 80s, Americans with Iraq kissed their gums the same way.
            That did not stop them from rolling out several years later to the full and those and others.
            Who else in 2011 could suspect a war with Ukraine?
    5. Imh
      Imh 19 February 2018 11: 53
      +5
      And here is Palestine and / or Russia? Israel needs this against Iran.
      1. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 19 February 2018 13: 18
        +1
        Quote: IMH
        And here is Palestine and / or Russia? Israel needs this against Iran.

        Are you really so naive? ABM along Russian borders is also against Iran, according to Washington. Alaska is also not chosen for nothing to test. Obviously, part of the ICBMs will go through the Arctic, Alaska and Canada. But the test of this kind of technology is best done where anti-missile defense will be used + missile defense infrastructure. Or are mobile radars enough to track the launch and flight path of a target in space?
        1. Imh
          Imh 19 February 2018 14: 21
          +4
          I don’t care why the US needs these missile defense systems, but Israel needs them against the Iranian threat, a fact.
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 19 February 2018 14: 23
            +1
            Well and not only. But also for the development of the aerospace industry ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 19 February 2018 11: 02
    +5
    Experts suggest that it can also be used as an anti-satellite weapon.
    But previously, Russia and China were accused of creating and testing such weapons ...
  3. Thrall
    Thrall 19 February 2018 11: 02
    +6
    Only in space there were not enough Jews smile
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 19 February 2018 11: 06
      +12
      Jews have long been in space. As a satellite maker
      communications, reconnaissance satellites and Shavit light space rockets.
      And now nothing is developing so fast in Israel as an aerospace.
      industry.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 19 February 2018 11: 16
        +14
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Jews have long been in space

        It just raises a lot of questions:
        - Is it possible for Orthodox Jews to fly into space, how to observe Shabbat, does food cease to be kosher when it falls into orbit, and is there anything heretical in the celebration of Cosmonautics Day? smile
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 19 February 2018 11: 32
          +10
          Archangels (Gabriel, Raphael, Michael, etc. - messengers of the Creator) from the Old Testament fly in space, the stratosphere,
          and the atmosphere and nothing: Shabbat, koshrut - all okay. (Only bales need to be tight
          stick to heads - overheat on supersonic smile ).
          Jewish cosmonauts will be called archangels, and all things. fellow
          1. novel66
            novel66 19 February 2018 11: 41
            +8
            ditty was
            satellite orbits
            over the spills of the seas
            in it the bracket hangs nailed -
            the first Jew in space
            lol
      2. figwam
        figwam 19 February 2018 11: 37
        +1
        Apparently the Palestinians through space shell Israel.
      3. myrzilka
        myrzilka 19 February 2018 13: 21
        +5
        In space for a long time, here is the confirmation)))
    2. 210ox
      210ox 19 February 2018 11: 07
      +2
      Well, there are already Israeli satellites.
      Quote: Thrall
      Only in space there were not enough Jews smile
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 February 2018 11: 06
    +4
    Israel in the "soul" understands that if the United States starts a war, they will not be able to sit out in the desert and the answer will be on them as an American ally. In addition, the development is joint, which means the Americans have commercial benefits from this.
  5. Lixt
    Lixt 19 February 2018 11: 10
    +2
    How much dough it took all this ... and ordinary people pay taxes for all this, oh I would like at least 1 hundredth part of that money ...
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    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 19 February 2018 17: 01
      +1
      Are you not Poroshenko for an hour? wink Painfully intonation familiar.
  6. anjey
    anjey 19 February 2018 11: 16
    +2
    Israel and the United States tested missile defense systems to intercept missiles in space
    the direction is obvious, they want to avoid Russia’s nuclear response to a sneaky first strike at all costs, I think we won’t give them a chance of salvation, and it really reassures me to die and take our enemies with us ....
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 19 February 2018 11: 34
      +4
      "and it really reassures-die and take with you enemies ...." ///

      Right, some jihadist negative . They also love: to die and take enemies with them.
      1. novel66
        novel66 19 February 2018 11: 43
        +2
        wife to husband: "you are so tired of me - I just want to commit suicide!" her husband -: "Yes, I, too!" wife: "then I will not!"
      2. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 19 February 2018 13: 34
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "and it really reassures-die and take with you enemies ...." ///

        Right, some jihadist negative . They also love: to die and take enemies with them.


        Here is a little different. If our “partners” are sure that we can only end us with a shot through our heads, then we will all live in a relative world, as it is today. Parity, in a word.
  7. taiga2018
    taiga2018 19 February 2018 11: 18
    +1
    and they think that Iran will calmly look at it ...
    1. anjey
      anjey 19 February 2018 13: 25
      +2
      look more strategically, Iran is just an excuse, Israel’s main economic and weapon locomotive, so it’s clear where this locomotive and wagons go, the main geopolitical competitor is Russia and China is next in line if they don’t agree ...
  8. AntiFREEZ
    AntiFREEZ 19 February 2018 11: 21
    0
    The Hets-3 construct implements the hit-to-kill principle

    Video in the subject, although not Hetz-3:
  9. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 19 February 2018 11: 23
    +5
    Experts suggest that it can also be used as an anti-satellite weapon.
    Here, this system is likely to be effective in successfully completing trials. To counter maneuvering warheads and reliable selection of false targets, I hope not.
  10. san4es
    san4es 19 February 2018 11: 24
    +2
    Khets-3 is a joint development of Israel and the United States to intercept ballistic missiles in near space.


    In 2012, the US-Israeli consortium Boeing - IAI announced its intention to supply the Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 missile systems to the international market - in particular, South Korea and India are called potential buyers.
  11. Serpent Pliskin
    Serpent Pliskin 19 February 2018 11: 24
    +2
    Explain to a person with a liberal education: what is the advantage of hitting a missile in the target itself, rather than undermining the damaging elements next to the target, as we do? Why complicate the task yourself?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 19 February 2018 11: 32
      +6
      Quote: Serpent Pliskin
      Explain to a person with a liberal education: what is the advantage of hitting a missile in the target itself, rather than undermining the damaging elements next to the target, as we do? Why complicate the task yourself?

      The task is to hit the rocket before the separation of warheads and false targets. And this can only be done in the transatmospheric space.
      1. Serpent Pliskin
        Serpent Pliskin 19 February 2018 11: 40
        0
        I do not mean even this particular system, but the Western approach to missile defense as a whole. Many western complexes, a patriot, for example, if I am not mistaken, hit the target itself with a direct hit, when our complexes undermine the striking elements, creating a radius of destruction without the need for a direct hit. Such complexes are simpler and cheaper. If so, what is the advantage of a direct hit?
    2. novel66
      novel66 19 February 2018 11: 46
      +5
      splinters cannot guarantee damage to a warhead
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 19 February 2018 11: 57
        +7
        That's for sure, sales can not bring down the combat unit from the shrapnel trajectory, you need a blast right in the nose !!!
        Kinetic blank - if horrible, then everything blows to smithereens!
        Only the problem is to get at the highest class in accuracy .... the disc is not expensive, but the guidance system must be super expensive.
        The end justifies the means ... a couple of nuances - if the combat unit maneuvers! if there are many, many.
        The problem has not yet been resolved, but everyone is working on it, because whoever did not have time is late .... the respect for the Israelis in this matter is going in the right direction.
        1. novel66
          novel66 19 February 2018 12: 11
          +2
          as one of the developers put it, "it's like getting a bullet into a bullet!"
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 19 February 2018 12: 34
        +2
        That's right. ICBM warhead as it were armored
        multilayer very durable coating against overheating during descent in the atmosphere.
        It also protects against fragments of missile defense.
    3. san4es
      san4es 19 February 2018 11: 50
      +4
      Quote: Serpent Pliskin
      ... what is the advantage of hitting a missile at the target itself, rather than undermining the striking elements near the target?

      ... With a direct hit, the kinetic energy (destruction of the target) is greater, but accuracy is not guaranteed.
      With remote detonation - the opposite.
      1. Serpent Pliskin
        Serpent Pliskin 19 February 2018 12: 03
        +2
        Thank you all for your answers.
      2. novel66
        novel66 19 February 2018 12: 17
        +2
        Hello! hi good in this case, vigorous bch
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 19 February 2018 12: 39
          +1
          Good ???
          After undermining them, fig nothing is visible, for a while, a sufficient Schaub steam engine fell on you.
          There was such an idea of ​​a tandem PRO breakthrough !!! for some reason she was pushed to the far end when she was already truncated and she needed only a retaliatory ballistic missile strike! Strike of retaliation!
          Everyone rushed to invent non-nuclear means of air defense - missile defense, everyone wants to live, but not underground, however!
          1. novel66
            novel66 19 February 2018 12: 46
            +1
            So, did we develop it? even kind of experienced
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 19 February 2018 14: 34
              +2
              We have. There was \ there is special ammunition in the missile defense system, as far as they say!
              Specific tests on the topic did not seem to be. For atmospheric tests there were nuclear weapons, but sho, how, why, this is covered with a great secret!
              Now, again, for this topic, a conversation arose, only real experts against it.
              After all, the consequences will be the same, they don’t want to get a steam locomotive on their head !!!
  12. New Year day
    New Year day 19 February 2018 11: 26
    +3
    Earlier experiments with Arrow 3 were carried out from the Palmachim Air Force Base, but now, for fear that rocket fragments could fall on Israel, they have been transferred to Alaska. In Alaska, the interception of Iranian ballistic missiles will be specifically practiced.

    In January of this year, the tests were canceled due to problems with the transmission of information, in December last - due to the fact that the conditional target did not behave as expected by the test scenario.

    Together with other systems of near, medium and long-range missile defense, Arrow 3 represents the highest level of protection, and is designed to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles outside the atmosphere. It is a more advanced version of the early systems - Arrow and Arrow 2. The new air defense system is capable of intercepting ICBM warheads at altitudes up to 100 km and at ranges up to 650 km. Arrow 3 radar target detection range is 900 km.
    Arrow 3 officially put into service with the IDF in January 2017.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 19 February 2018 11: 52
      +4
      Arrow 3 - a cross between Aegis SM-3 and GBI (Ground-Based Interceptor - which
      in Alaska). She does not know how to take short-range ballistic missiles, like SM-3 (for this - David Sling)
      and not as powerful as the GBI for intercepting ICBMs.
      Its task is to intercept the medium-range ballistic missile defense in outer space.
    2. Professor
      Professor 19 February 2018 13: 03
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      Earlier experiments with Arrow 3 were carried out from the Palmachim Air Force Base, but now, for fear that rocket fragments could fall on Israel, they have been transferred to Alaska. In Alaska, the interception of Iranian ballistic missiles will be specifically practiced.

      Not. The reason is different. The interception does not take place over Israel, but over the Mediterranean Sea where there is no place for an apple to fall. It is necessary to prohibit flights of civil aviation in neighboring countries and so on. Alaska has thousands of miles of ocean to the south. An ideal place for complete trials.
  13. shans2
    shans2 19 February 2018 11: 54
    +2
    The Hezbollah group posted a video on social networks showing an attack against Israeli offshore gas fields.

    The video includes quotes from Hassan Nasrallah’s latest speech, in which he warns that Hezbollah will strike gas platforms in response to any Israeli attack in Lebanon. Nasrallah said: “If you attack, we attack. If you bomb, we will bomb. I swear that within a few hours the gas platforms will stop functioning. ”
    https://mobile.twitter.com/dryasseralsaleh/status
    / 965300795129454599 / video / 1
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 19 February 2018 12: 28
      +4
      Israel is preparing for such troubles. Nothing wrong.
      6 submarines, 4 frigates, unmanned speed boats
      and UAVs over the sea.
      We will have to defend the gas platforms of Cyprus, with which
      we will have common gas liquefaction plants and offshore pipelines. A lot of work. fellow
      1. Spike Javelin Touvich
        Spike Javelin Touvich 19 February 2018 13: 02
        0
        How expensive everything is. Lay the subsea pipe from the platform to Israel and from the same platform to Cyprus then build onshore terminals on both banks and again lay the subsea pipe from Cyprus to Europe. Then and protect them as you said
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 19 February 2018 13: 55
          +3
          There is a lot of discussion about this and things are going slowly.
          It was clear that the first thing was to convert Israel itself to natural gas.
          TPP and the rest. They dealt with this more or less.
          But what to do with the surplus: how to sell ?, what to put in the development fund,
          and what to give the government on social spending? Disputes.
          Israel does not build its future on these resources.
          But for Cyprus it is critically important to start making profit from them, as much as possible
          faster. Therefore, they suggested: build a LNG plant with them and drive
          Israeli gas there. Less headache. Let Gazprom own at least
          this factory (and protects it at the same time).
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 19 February 2018 14: 19
            0
            Well, they didn’t quite manage. There are problems at the Ashkelon TPP.
    2. Professor
      Professor 19 February 2018 13: 06
      +4
      Quote: shans2
      The Hezbollah group posted a video on social networks showing an attack against Israeli offshore gas fields.

      There is no doubt that some or even all of the platforms will be destroyed during the third Lebanese. We are ready for this. The question is how much will Lebanon pay for it and will it decide on such dangerous actions knowing the price?
  14. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 19 February 2018 12: 28
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    But if the warhead maneuvers .. Does it still hit? Or is it still a publicity stunt?

    Just like a holey Iron Kumpol!
  15. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 19 February 2018 12: 29
    0
    Quote: shans2
    The Hezbollah group posted a video on social networks showing an attack against Israeli offshore gas fields.

    The video includes quotes from Hassan Nasrallah’s latest speech, in which he warns that Hezbollah will strike gas platforms in response to any Israeli attack in Lebanon. Nasrallah said: “If you attack, we attack. If you bomb, we will bomb. I swear that within a few hours the gas platforms will stop functioning. ”
    https://mobile.twitter.com/dryasseralsaleh/status
    / 965300795129454599 / video / 1

    Well, and so probably you need to answer !?
    1. brigadier
      brigadier 19 February 2018 13: 42
      +5
      I swear that within a few hours the gas platforms will stop functioning

      But Nasrallah will not know about this.
  16. borov_2
    borov_2 19 February 2018 14: 21
    0
    American taxpayers paid another Israeli miracle.
  17. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 19 February 2018 14: 35
    0
    I wonder why the Yankees are so intensified with the Jews? Probably sensed that Russia is not just focusing on ICBMs and precision weapons ......
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 19 February 2018 15: 04
      +2
      In missile defense, the same tasks arise, but there is a difference. America
      we are more concerned with ICBMs, we are more concerned with short-range ballistic missiles and short-range missiles.
      However, many missile defense components are similar. And it's silly not to use
      in national missile defense the most successful solutions of designers from both countries.
  18. Zina389
    Zina389 19 February 2018 17: 24
    0
    By the way, if the nasralik and his friends do not know, gas platforms can sail towards Sinai for example. Of course, they must be warned in advance, but during the war I do not think that they will produce gas. The news of this day - Egypt has signed a contract for the purchase of Israeli gas for 10 billion. So let Nasralik hide his fat body in the cliffs and bunkers.
  19. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 19 February 2018 18: 23
    +1
    If before Jews were expelled from various countries,
    they are currently doing everything
    to be expelled forever from the face of the Earth ..
    1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
      Crane operator Nahamkinson 19 February 2018 18: 37
      +3
      By their deeds and attitude towards them.
      Surely some kind of division
      Strategic Rocket Forces, in the Irkutsk Region, or
      Krasnoyarsk Territory, has long taken on
      the sight is small and aggressive ....
      And as soon as this pug tries
      bite. That will remain of her
      scorched glassy desert.
      Again, according to their deeds
      and attitude to them.
  20. Zina389
    Zina389 19 February 2018 19: 54
    0
    Cranemen are to blame for the collapse of the USSR, definitely. Also, the missiles were directed, redirected, stroked, excited, until the missiles “rusted”, as they say in Paris. And Israel is a dynamic state. Maybe in Alaska, not only missile defense, but also a couple of Erichons were seized. Just to not get bored in Irkutsk. They wiped the rockets on time without drinking alcohol.
    1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
      Crane operator Nahamkinson 19 February 2018 20: 17
      +3
      Zina !!!
      In addition to the Irkutsk region and
      Krasnoyarsk Territory.
      There are also divisions of the Strategic Missile Forces,
      in Altai and in the Novosibirsk region.
      Somewhere in the taiga, waiting for his
      hours, Beelzebub, aka SS-18.
      One rocket is enough
      so that the desert is glazed
      forever.
      1. Zina389
        Zina389 19 February 2018 22: 08
        0
        even such anti-Semitic glazed dishonesty, sustak and not eating like you, Nakhamkinson, dare not glaze the Holy Land and the city of 3 religions. Only bearded perverts in dresses from Iran. Here for them and prepare gifts. So sleep well dear comrade.
        1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
          Crane operator Nahamkinson 20 February 2018 02: 49
          +2
          Okay Zina, reassured.
          Yes, and I'm not so glazed
          anti-Semite.
          I swear by my grandmother.
  21. myrzilka
    myrzilka 19 February 2018 21: 11
    0
    Quote: Observer1
    And we are God's chosen people for a simple reason, since the Jews gave birth to your Christian god Jesus Christ, born of the Jewish Jew Mary in the Jewish city of Bethlehem 2018 years ago, and also presented the world with a Bible with 10 famous commandments.

    You are not God's chosen people (you yourself have appropriated it). They betrayed and sold him))) You are God's slaves, and never forget about it. And who is closer to the father of the slaves or his grandchildren?
  22. Zina389
    Zina389 19 February 2018 22: 14
    0
    In scoops, God's chosenness is like being elected to the Communist Party with coupons for enhanced nutrition, or being elected as a deputy to grab loot. And that it can be a severe test, and even death on the cross, for example, they don’t understand at all.
  23. Charik
    Charik 20 February 2018 02: 13
    0
    send combat tundra-plain Black Sea tolls for sabotage in Alaska, and after the sabotage the Aleutians will declare a referendum - you know what progressive democrats are called annexation.
  24. Charik
    Charik 20 February 2018 06: 58
    0
    Quote: Dormidont
    Stopudovo - against Palestinian ICBMs

    most likely against the Zullus spears
  25. Charik
    Charik 20 February 2018 07: 22
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Israel is preparing for such troubles. Nothing wrong.
    6 submarines, 4 frigates, unmanned speed boats
    and UAVs over the sea.
    We will have to defend the gas platforms of Cyprus, with which
    we will have common gas liquefaction plants and offshore pipelines. A lot of work. fellow

    work will be added to you when a couple of tens of millions of Muslims - of whom you spread rot, come
    1. brigadier
      brigadier 20 February 2018 18: 36
      0
      What prevented them from coming so far?
      Suppress ... something Arabs from Israel and from the Palestinian territories are not torn to Europe or Russia for example.
      Apparently we are not spreading rot here. It is necessary to discuss with fellow Arabs ... and this is not a joke.
  26. Charik
    Charik 20 February 2018 07: 29
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    Quote: Zina389
    Cranemen are to blame for the collapse of the USSR, definitely. Also, the missiles were directed, redirected, stroked, excited, until the missiles “rusted”, as they say in Paris. And Israel is a dynamic state. Maybe in Alaska, not only missile defense, but also a couple of Erichons were seized. Just to not get bored in Irkutsk. They wiped the rockets on time without drinking alcohol.

    it’s just in America that women with low social responsibility will engage in such nonsense, then grass will be stoned on duty on the control of nuclear missiles
  27. Shahno
    Shahno 20 February 2018 17: 48
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    aquatic,
    Since you got me ...
    I answer, Mary is a woman of Semitic blood. I wrote somewhere that she is Jewish. And about Joseph, here's to you:
    Abraham begat Isaac; Isaac begat Jacob; Jacob begat Judah and his brothers;
    Gen. 38, 30 Gen. 46, 12 Ruth 4, 18 1 Steam 2, 5
    3 Judah begat Pharez and Zara from Famari; Pharez gave birth to Esrom; Yeshrom begat Aram;
    4 Aram begat Aminadawa; Aminadab begat Naasson; Naasson begat Salmon;
    Ruth 4, 21 1 Steam 2, 11
    5 Salmon gave birth to Boaz from Rahava; Boaz gave birth to Ovid from Ruth; Ovid gave birth to Jesse;
    1 King 17, 12 2 King 12, 24
    6 Jesse begat David the king; David the king begat Solomon from the former beyond Uriah;
    3 King 11, 43 3 King 14, 31 3 King 15, 8 1 Par 3, 10
    7 Solomon begat Rehoboam; Rehoboam begat Abijah; Abijah begat Asu;
    Xnumx Asa begat Jehoshaphat; Jehoshaphat gave birth to Joram; Joram gave birth to Uzziah;
    9 Uzziah begat Joatham; Joatham begat Ahaz; Ahaz gave birth to Hezekiah;
    4 King 20, 21 1 Par 3, 13
    10 Hezekiah begat Manasseh; Manasseh begat Amon; Amon begat Josiah;
    4 Tsar 23, 34 4 Tsar 24, 6 1 Par 3, 16 2 Par 36, 4
    11 Josiah begat Joachim; Jehoiakim begat Jehonia and his brothers before moving to Babylon.
    1 Steam 3, 17 2 Steam 36, 8 1 Ride 3, 2 1 Ride 5, 2
    12 But after resettlement in Babylon, Jehonia begat Salaphiel; Salafiel begat Zerubbabel;
    13 Zerubbabel begat Abiud; Abiud begat Eliakim; Eliakim begat Azor;
    14 Azor gave birth to Zadok; Zadok gave birth to Achim; Achim begat Eliud;
    15 Eliud gave birth to Eleazar; Eleazar gave birth to Matthan; Matthan begat Jacob;
    16 Jacob gave birth to Joseph, the husband of Mary, from whom Jesus was born, called Christ.
    17 So of all the clans from Abraham to David are fourteen clans; and from David to the relocation to Babylon, fourteen clans; and from resettlement to Babylon to Christ, fourteen kinds.
    LX 1, 27
    18 The Nativity of Jesus Christ was like this: after the betrothal of His Mother Mary and Joseph, before they were combined, it turned out that She had in the womb of the Holy Spirit.
    19 Joseph, her husband, being righteous and not wanting to announce her, wanted to secretly let her go.
    20 But when he thought this, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said: Joseph, son of David! Do not be afraid to receive your wife Mary, for those born in her are from the Holy Spirit;
    Lk 1, 31 Acts 4, 12 1 Jing 2, 2 Rome 3, 24
    21 will give birth to a Son, and you will call Him the name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.
    So the blood in it is Jewish ... Leaving other incidents. The Bible confirms that the father is Jewish. And the subtleties of this procedure are not for me.
    1. leon1204id
      leon1204id 20 February 2018 19: 10
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      Apparently the holy spirit is also a Jew ?. So are we all brothers? However, not in Christ but in the tribes of Israel ....... laughing
    2. aquatic
      aquatic 20 February 2018 19: 57
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      Since you got me ...
      I answer, Mary is a woman of Semitic blood. I wrote somewhere that she is Jewish. And about Joseph, here's to you:


      I don’t know where you wrote what, I asked a very specific question:
      where is it written in the bible that Mary is Jewish? give a link to the stanza, quote. You bring me a bunch of text who gave birth to someone there, but there isn’t a word about Mary) what do you mean in a frying pan?
      I didn’t say anything)
      It was enough for you to say "in the Holy Scripture it is not written anywhere that Mary is Jewish"
      is that true?)
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 20 February 2018 20: 47
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        Ev. from Luke
        In the days of Herod, king of Judea, there was a priest from the chain of Avia, by the name of Zacharias, and his wife from the family of Aaron, her name was Elisabeth.
      2. Shahno
        Shahno 20 February 2018 20: 48
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        Here is Elizabeth, thy relative, called barren, and she conceived a son in her old age, and she is already six months old,
        37 for God will not remain powerless any word.
        38 Then Mary said: Behold, the Servant of the Lord; let it be unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from Her.
        39 Rising Mary in these days, hurriedly went to the upland country, to the city of Judah,
        40 and entered the house of Zechariah, and saluted Elizabeth.
        Is it enough?
        1. aquatic
          aquatic 20 February 2018 21: 44
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          if a Jew is a relative of Italian, is he Italian?
  28. leon1204id
    leon1204id 20 February 2018 19: 16
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    A missile with a kinetic striking element. Precision is everything. The big question is, will they also pop it like F22 and F35? Probably here the commercial issue comes first. And the Americans will protect themselves completely from the ocean.