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Poland wants more tanks for Europe

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Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravecki believes Europe needs more tanks.


We need more tanks and fewer analytical centers; we have enough analytical centers.
- Moravetsky said at the 54 th Munich Security Conference, adding that weapon "it is important in the fight against the IG * (terrorist group, banned in Russia) or with such a conventional opponent as Russia."

Poland wants more tanks for Europe


According to Moravetsky, Russia "put the topic of information warfare on the agenda" of European and world politics.

When we talk about security in Europe, we should understand that the Russian question has long been beyond the competence of the EU, it is before all of Europe and NATO
- the minister added, calling on all NATO countries to fulfill their commitments to allocate two percent of GDP for defense.

As Lavrov recently stated, the United States, through NATO, is trying to consolidate its domination in Europe under the pretext of an artificial Russian threat.

According to him, against the backdrop of whipping up Russophobia in relations between Russia and NATO, the accusations that "we are almost preparing to attack the Baltic States, Poland and all the rest," heavy weapons, additional large contingents are being deployed at the borders of NATO with Russia.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 17 February 2018 18: 02
    +5
    Well, and who is preparing for war and aggression here, you don’t need to ask questions here, just look at the deployment of NATO troops near the borders of Russia and their buildup. In the entire history of Russia, in my opinion, we have not had so many countries in our enemies at one time, I think it’s time to start pursuing a tougher policy for good, it doesn’t work out, but here's how to do it.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 17 February 2018 18: 04
      +2
      Whoever prepares, we are extreme anyway yes
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Well, who is preparing for war and aggression.
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 February 2018 18: 30
        +2
        Let them buy Ukrainian Bastions, otherwise Abrams is no longer produced ..
        1. Shura Sailors
          Shura Sailors 17 February 2018 18: 40
          +2
          Why not? Only not "Bastions", but "Yatagans" under NATO standards
          1. just exp
            just exp 17 February 2018 23: 10
            +1
            mriy mriy
            1. Slovak
              Slovak 19 February 2018 00: 49
              0
              Quote: just EXPL
              mriy mriy

              What? Not dead?
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 17 February 2018 23: 29
            +1
            Quote: Shura of the sailors
            Why not? Only not "Bastions", but "Yatagans" under NATO standards

            Accustomed to recycling. After the 45th from the Wehrmacht, thousands of tons went, now from NATO a lot of iron trash will remain if they ask for trouble. Or maybe they just need to try to melt steel from ore?
          3. MOSKVITYANIN
            MOSKVITYANIN 18 February 2018 07: 47
            0
            Quote: Shura sailors
            Why not? Only not "Bastions", but "Yatagans" under NATO standards

            Where will you get tank trunks?
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 17 February 2018 20: 33
          +1
          Rather, it will be Leopards 2A7 +
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 17 February 2018 22: 15
            +6
            Quote: Vadim237
            Rather, it will be Leopards 2A7 +



            Two old Poles reason:
            - Do you remember the film "Four Tankers and a Dog"?
            - Of course I remember, a true film, before there wasn’t much truth about
            Poles showed.
            - And what do you think, if we had two of these tanks, what then?
            - Yes, then we would have won the war without the Russians, and not like the Germans,
            and the Japanese would have won, you imagine, Polish tanks in the center
            defeated Tokyo, both ....
            - No, I think the Russians knew all this from the very beginning, and it was
            therefore they gave us only one tank.
          2. sib.ataman
            sib.ataman 18 February 2018 16: 07
            +1
            And it is right! They burn well with the Turks in Syria!
      2. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 17 February 2018 19: 05
        +7
        Quote: 210ox
        Whoever prepares, we are extreme anyway

        the geyropa will be extreme, under this pretext they will not give her gold from mattress vaults
    2. Anarchist
      Anarchist 17 February 2018 18: 06
      +12
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Well, who is preparing for war and aggression.

      Lubricate the guns ... Soon the hunting season will open. They say that the migration of the Poles is expected ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 17 February 2018 18: 25
        +4
        Yes, they are not able to fight, only at a distance and in a crowd, encouraging each other.
      2. volodya
        volodya 17 February 2018 18: 29
        +4
        That's who has imperial manners! The Poles. It was worth Trump once to praise them and off, let's go!
        1. cniza
          cniza 17 February 2018 18: 53
          +7
          He not only praised, but hinted that they are now the main gamniuki in Europe, and not Germany, and here they are rushing.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 17 February 2018 19: 12
            +11
            Quote: cniza
            here they are rushing.

            and where do they go smart and beautiful?
            1. cniza
              cniza 17 February 2018 20: 46
              +4
              Well, let it be torn, but it is not written correctly on the stone, the lower two points can only be together. lol
        2. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 17 February 2018 20: 17
          +2
          Quote: volodya
          That's who has imperial manners!

          the history of these half-armed does not teach anything !!! request wassat wassat laughing laughing
      3. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 17 February 2018 19: 07
        +6
        Quote: Anarchist
        Lubricate the guns ... Soon the hunting season will open. They say that the migration of the Poles is expected ...

        so the migratory yankees should appear laughing
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 17 February 2018 20: 29
      0
      Yes. The situation around Russia is heating up. It's time to move from defense to offensive. So far, diplomatic.
  2. polpot
    polpot 17 February 2018 18: 05
    +3
    Clinical idiot
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 17 February 2018 20: 18
      +1
      Quote: polpot
      Clinical

      historical !!! wassat lol lol lol
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 February 2018 18: 05
    +1
    Too many Poles have recently pointed and decided, both for Europe, and for NATO and the United States! It seems that they decided to become European trash, and they will make all decisions themselves. And Europe will only obediently be obliged to silently do everything that Poland indicates to them.
    1. Shura Sailors
      Shura Sailors 17 February 2018 18: 20
      +3
      What can they point and decide in Europe? Have you fledged for a long time? As long as overseas friends use Poland and cover it, the Poles hiss at everyone. Only cease to arrange the hosts, and immediately shut up. And then something has become a lot of Poland in the media
      1. Cat
        Cat 17 February 2018 20: 30
        0
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Too many Poles have recently pointed and decided, both for Europe, and for NATO and the United States! It seems that they decided to become European trash, and they will make all decisions themselves. And Europe will only obediently be obliged to silently do everything that Poland indicates to them.

        Only not by persecution, but by patience!
  4. Baloo
    Baloo 17 February 2018 18: 05
    +3
    Where will the Pole go when the Amerzians provoke a third world war (and is it exactly the third or ninth in a row?) And the whole of Europe, and first of all Poland, will turn into one solid target. Why is no one talking about this? How crazy everyone was, DB.
    1. Shura Sailors
      Shura Sailors 17 February 2018 18: 50
      +2
      "Why is no one talking about this?" Is it possible to watch European channels? Watch these channels ONLY these channels and you will get an answer about what and as they say euroSMI
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 17 February 2018 18: 05
    +1
    Paid tantrum.
  6. san4es
    san4es 17 February 2018 18: 07
    +10
    Hockey ... Russia / 4 - 0 / USA
    Hooray comrades! soldier
    (I apologize not in a subject)
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 17 February 2018 18: 11
      +8
      Quote: san4es
      Hockey ... Russia / 4 - 0 / USA
      Hooray comrades! soldier
      (I apologize not in a subject)

      Still, the Canadians with the Swedes with such a score to kick. For your and our victory! drinks drinks drinks good hi
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 17 February 2018 19: 23
      +11
      Quote: san4es
      Hockey ... Russia / 4 - 0 / USA
      Hooray comrades! soldier
      (I apologize not in a subject)

      Sanya is good news, of course, but I don’t know this form with the Russian team request
      1. san4es
        san4es 17 February 2018 19: 45
        +2
        Quote: vlad66
        ... I don’t know this form for the Russian team request

        hi ... A new trend, Vlad fellow Let it be (tested in the game).
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 17 February 2018 21: 16
        0
        Quote: vlad66
        Sanya is good news, of course, but I don’t know this form with the Russian team

        Colors of the USSR national team
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 17 February 2018 22: 52
          +6
          Quote: Setrac
          Quote: vlad66
          Sanya is good news, of course, but I don’t know this form with the Russian team

          Colors of the USSR national team

          A colleague of color with flowers, here is the shape of the USSR.
          See, no olimpic athlete from Russia / hi
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 17 February 2018 23: 20
            0
            Quote: vlad66
            See, no olimpic athlete from Russia /

            If you have suddenly forgotten how to read, I can’t help you with anything.
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 17 February 2018 20: 07
      +1
      Quote: san4es
      (I apologize not in a subject)

      Very much in the subject!
      And if all Swedes, Czechs, Finns ... are just competitors for medals, then Americans are enemies in the cube (squared because they spoil us in all directions, declaring a soft proxy war to destroy, and because in the cube, that they’re not only spoiling themselves, but the whole world is being raised against us).
      Already scuffle on the site today raged repeatedly ...
      1. san4es
        san4es 17 February 2018 20: 17
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        ... Already scuffle at the site today, I raged repeatedly ...

        ... This is normal for hockey ... Especially since a lot of ours played in the NHL
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 February 2018 18: 07
    +1
    Tanks, you say, few? So you sold them a lot around the world! fool It was also necessary to completely curtail the production and repair of armored vehicles throughout Europe.
  8. anjey
    anjey 17 February 2018 18: 11
    +3
    Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravetsky believes that Europe needs more tanks.
    Wasn’t enough for the guilty tanks of Guderian in 1939?
    Which not badly rolled Poland with their caterpillars for a fortnight, apparently there was little disease ...
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 17 February 2018 20: 21
      +2
      Quote: anjey
      Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravetsky believes that Europe needs more tanks.
      Wasn’t enough for the guilty tanks of Guderian in 1939?
      Which not badly rolled Poland with their caterpillars for a fortnight, apparently there was little disease ...

      the fool didn’t get out of the 20th century ... he thinks that a bunch of tanks will help him in the 21st century !! request wassat laughing laughing laughing
  9. shosha
    shosha 17 February 2018 18: 21
    +1
    Now they shout that they want more tanks, then they will shout that they’re not hitting bedridden people.
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 17 February 2018 19: 08
      +1
      Quote: shosha
      Now they shout that they want more tanks, then they will shout that they’re not hitting bedridden people.

      When they make tanks, they will begin to cry that there is not enough oil. But they will never understand that these are interconnected things.
  10. Fedorov
    Fedorov 17 February 2018 18: 23
    +4
    As the Psheks are sick of it am that the Baltic states are one thing ... The Poles are all dreaming of NATO with their hands to chop off a piece of hohlostan and Belarus. Yes, it won’t work out, in the zapadenschina banderlogs are fierce, and Russia Belarus will not give an insult to the offense unambiguously, and they themselves can snitch around their necks.
  11. cayman gene
    cayman gene 17 February 2018 18: 25
    +2
    It can be understood, the Eurocoreans will pay for the tanks, and Pan Moravecki will decide for them how many tanks they need and what kind of loot Germany, France, Italy, et cetera should dump for it. no, he finally can, like, well done, probably? recourse
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 18: 33
    +7
    Poland wants more tanks for Europe
    History does not teach the Poles anything. In any scenario, Poland is in ruins ... What can I add? Sooner or later, the pressure on us will end with the fact that, to paraphrase Bernes, you can formulate this: "DO YOU WANT TANKS? I HAVE THEM ...."
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 17 February 2018 22: 22
      +3
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      In any scenario, Poland is in ruins ...

      They have such a fate, at first they go through them to conquer the Russians, then the Russians through them kick and conquer the conquerors back ...
  13. andr327
    andr327 17 February 2018 18: 43
    +4
    Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravetsky believes that Europe needs more tanks.

    contact us officially, we will be able at your request to place 3-4 of your tank divisions in your territory wink
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  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 February 2018 18: 54
    +2
    Well, how many tanks does a great Poland need? To feel protected? Or maybe you’ll get a brain first? And then in a clear deficit. wassat
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 17 February 2018 20: 24
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, how many tanks does a great Poland need?

      The problem here is that no matter how many Pshek tanks they want, they will receive them exactly as much as they decide to fork out. And one more thing :: say, the same old Leopards are one and a half times more expensive than our newest Armats, so you can want a tank division, but you only have to get a T-55 platoon (from storage in Germany) with a gas station. And there won't be enough Leopards for everyone :: jewelry, hand-made, but they burn much more beautifully than our 72s
      Why don’t they like 55? So let them take 64, but they will have to pay extra ... Good tanks (for their time, of course ... so after all, Estonians, for example, will not have enough life to master them!)
  16. Falcond
    Falcond 17 February 2018 18: 59
    +2
    I wonder what percentage of this Pig will be paid for delivering old Abrams to some European countries?
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 17 February 2018 19: 12
      +1
      Quote: FalconD
      I wonder what percentage of this Pig will be paid for delivering old Abrams to some European countries?

      Vegetable in his teeth, not interest. In the best case, they pat on the shoulder and say that he is the right dude and that he would continue in the same vein, then maybe he will be patted on the shoulder again.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 17 February 2018 20: 32
      0
      Quote: FalconD
      what percentage of this will pay

      And they won’t pay him a damn :: The Abrams are now in short supply, and they burned them a lot in Iraq ...
  17. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 17 February 2018 19: 31
    +2
    More tanks are needed - so stamp. Create your super-duper half-panzer quickly. Not all the same to the neighbors under the door of a handful of stinks to wallow. To fight Russia, this is an understandable statement from the cowardly Polish Russophobes. But what about Poland’s contribution to the fight against IS — is this where the Poles fought against IS? Something I clearly missed in the information from BV ...
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  19. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 17 February 2018 20: 22
    +1
    And where will you take the fuel or trample on donkey urine?
  20. zivXP
    zivXP 17 February 2018 22: 04
    +1
    Poland wants more tanks for Europe

    Cho, throw a couple of T-90 divisions? laughing
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 17 February 2018 22: 57
    0
    Such a specific Poland, with its very unpredictable policies! You can understand that they are fighting with Russia and ISIS in a place taken, but in fact they are only interested in money and weapons, and then they themselves will dictate their will to everyone.
    Such an ersatz of the Empire?
  22. rocket757
    rocket757 18 February 2018 00: 17
    0
    Wanting is not harmful, but it can be very dangerous!
    In this particular case, it is both harmful and dangerous !!!
    Oh, it seems to me that we will remember the former Minister of Defense, he was more of a pea jester, not so dangerous .... these are figures with a completely frostbitten brain, although the jesters are very dangerous.
    Not funny! Although it is not scary, as we break through, and entih just crush, if sho!
  23. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 18 February 2018 03: 19
    0
    How fashionable it is now - to distract the population from internal problems with the Russian threat ...
  24. Kerensky
    Kerensky 18 February 2018 05: 33
    0
    So what's the problem? Come to the market in Abu Dhabi. Go, choose, get your wallets, pay and take away!
  25. igorra
    igorra 18 February 2018 06: 07
    +1
    Stupid Americans? Look at the Poles, from century to century to put the wrong horse and rake in full, including sections of the country.
  26. farik68
    farik68 18 February 2018 07: 11
    +1
    So what's the problem buy tanks for Europe pamper them ....
  27. prior
    prior 18 February 2018 08: 38
    +1
    Well, what can I say, Moravecki is a clinical Pole.
  28. Evil 55
    Evil 55 18 February 2018 10: 07
    +1
    Tanks ... There would be more brains for you, but not technology ... Buy, you won’t regret it ...
  29. Kent0001
    Kent0001 18 February 2018 10: 10
    0
    I propose to register and confirm in the Doctrine and bring to the Poles that they, in the event of a turmoil in Europe, will be DESTROYED EXTRAORDINARY AND GUARANTEED !!!
  30. Lexeus
    Lexeus 18 February 2018 15: 07
    0
    Hitler then licked Hitler. and now am, they cannot live without it ...
  31. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 18 February 2018 16: 02
    +1
    Great, Mr. Merzavetsky! I understand you perfectly! Nostalgia! We have not seen our tanks in Europe for a long time! It's a pity! We urgently need to ask Shoigu to remove all our tanks for modernization, gentlemen want to see Iron Stream!
  32. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 18 February 2018 22: 59
    0
    Poland needs more tanks to fight IG * (terrorist group, banned in Russia) and Russia?

    I sit and think about how to come up with the most caustic and tough comment on this matter, but even my rich imagination fails. They are stubborn, their rich experience has not taught anything for several centuries. They think that God was seized by a beard? So let them remember 1939, when, due to their greyhound, the whole world turned away from them.
    With Russophobia, Poland has long outplayed it.