In the United States will be a monument to Soviet pilots

In North Carolina, a monument will be erected to the feat of Soviet pilots who overtook the Catalina amphibious aircraft during World War II. About this on the eve of the ceremony dedicated to the memory of Russian sailors in Portsmouth, said Acting Mayor of Elizabeth City Rick King.

According to him, the monument will appear in the fall of 2018.

I think until the first of December. Everything will depend on the speed of interaction. When the monument will be delivered from Russia. Now the parties agree on a memorandum of understanding

- he said.

The decision of the city council to establish a monument was unanimous, the mayor called such solidarity “beautiful”.

Russian Ambassador Anatoly Antonov reminded about stories cooperation between the two countries, in which there are "glorious heroic pages."

When during the Second World War, the USSR and the United States fought together against Nazi Germany, an important part of our joint struggle was the Lend-Lease program.

- he said.

In 1944-45 years not far from here, at the US Coast Guard Base, Soviet pilots were trained in piloting Catalina seaplanes, which were then transferred to the Soviet Union.

- The diplomat added. In January, 1945, one of the aircraft crashed during takeoff.

At the base, at the site of the pilots' death, a memorial plate will be installed, and a monument in the city of Elizabeth City, said Antonov.

Vladimir Popov, head of the Russian Defense Ministry’s department for perpetuating the memory of those killed in defending the Fatherland, said earlier that, despite the friction, countries continue to actively and successfully cooperate in preserving the memory of servicemen and searching for information about prisoners of war and missing persons, transmits RIA News

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[Herculesic]

If only his Tsereteli was not entrusted with doing it!

[Spartanez300]

Is it really so, yes, there was a small period when together they confronted a common enemy.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Spartanez300

Is it really so, yes, there was a small period when together they confronted a common enemy.

Nice faces.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Nice faces.

good times ... Victory ... and faith in a "brighter future" ...

[midivan]

Quote: Spartanez300

Can it be so?

I would very much hope that this is a step towards normal relations.

[RUSS]

Quote: midivan

I would very much hope that this is a step towards normal relations.

PANICHIDA ON RUSSIAN SEAFARERS HAS PASSED AT THE AMERICAN MILITARY CEMETERY IN VIRGINIA. (February 2018)
The ceremony dedicated to the memory of the Russian sailors of the frigate "Svetlana", who died in 1877, was held at the cemetery of the Norfolk Naval Base in Virginia. The Russian military-historical society, together with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia and the Ministry of Defense of Russia, established several previously unknown names, as well as prepared and held commemorative events.

The ceremony was attended by the Ambassador of the Russian Federation to the United States Anatoly Antonov. He noted that Russian-American relations should be based on the positive experience of the past.

- The return of names is always a connection of times. An occasion, recalling the past, to turn to the present and the future, ”said Anatoly Antonov.

He recalled that "during the Civil War in the United States, the Russian Empire unconditionally supported the government of Abraham Lincoln, considering it the only legitimate governing body on American soil."

In addition, in September 1863, two Russian squadrons arrived on the US coast: the squadron under the command of Rear Admiral Stepan Lesovsky went on a raid in New York, the squadron of Rear Admiral Andrei Popov arrived in San Francisco. The formal reason for this campaign was the threat of war between Russia and England and France over the "Polish question."

It was in connection with this support provided by Russia that the frigates Svetlana, Bogatyr, and Askold arrived in Norfolk at the beginning of 1877 as honored guests of the celebration of the 15th anniversary of the most important naval battle of the Civil War at the Hampton Raid. Russian ships were invited to participate in the anniversary parade of the American Navy.

During the expedition, due to illnesses, six Russian sailors could not return to their homeland. They were buried in the Hospital Cemetery in 1877 in Norfolk. Since then, six tombstones have remained nameless. The US military has guarded the graves all these years.

A few years ago, the Russian Military Historical Society, together with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, began work on the establishment of names and restoration of the stone at the burial site, as well as preparations for commemorative events.

[midivan]

Quote: RUSS

PANICHIDA ON RUSSIAN SEAFARERS HAS PASSED AT THE AMERICAN MILITARY CEMETERY IN VIRGINIA. (February 2018)
The ceremony dedicated to the memory of the Russian sailors of the frigate "Svetlana", who died in 1877, was held at the cemetery of the Norfolk Naval Base in Virginia. ...........

Thank you, I didn’t even hear Yes, all the same, there is hope, and in that year somewhere I caught something like that (I don’t remember what it was about oh head with sawdust, flew into one ear into the other ....), which prompted such a thought.

[Anarchist]

So here, friends, sanctions are sanctions, but feats are honored! Despite the apparent disagreement in politics ...
Even, I confess, I’m surprised! Maybe not everything is so bad in the "trick" ?!

[176]

Yes everywhere PEOPLE live, do not think that all around are enemies

[210ox]

Alexander There are always people who remember. They are everywhere, but not everywhere they are given a reminder of a common story. I was only sure that our pilots did not distill from the United States, they were their pilots and distilled only to our airfields. Or they were sent apart. Our only studied there. I guess I'm wrong.

Quote: Anarchist

So here, friends, sanctions are sanctions, but feats are honored! Despite the apparent disagreement in politics ...
Even, I confess, I’m surprised! Maybe not everything is so bad in the "trick" ?!

[Mikhail3]

Quote: 210ox

I just was sure that our pilots did not distill from the United States

?! Do you imagine what it is like driving across the ocean, and then across our country, and along the shortest route? Consider no drives, no people on earth, mountains, desert in the snow, ice, swamps, hell ... No medals were given for this work, but ours died there regularly, and considerable aces. The Americans simply could not handle it.

[bane's jacket]

Quote: 210ox

Alexander There are always people who remember. They are everywhere, but not everywhere they are given to remind of a common story.

Who is not allowed to remind? Here the French, for example, remember and most importantly they are “given”.



Show how the Russian planes painted for the anniversary of the regiment?

[vlad66]

Quote: Anarchist

Even, I confess, I’m surprised! Maybe not everything is so bad in the "trick" ?!

Let's hope Alexander! And there are normal people everywhere.

[cniza]

Politicians and big business are scammers, and there have never been problems with people.

[vlad66]

Quote: cniza

Politicians and big business are scammers, and there have never been problems with people.

Vitya agrees politics is not a dirtier profession, but grabbers are everywhere grabbers.

[PENZA]

This painter will draw. We’ll hesitate after this to hesitate.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: vlad66

Quote: Anarchist

Even, I confess, I’m surprised! Maybe not everything is so bad in the "trick" ?!

Let's hope Alexander! And there are normal people everywhere.

do not confuse congress and the military-industrial complex with someone's initiative ... nothing will change ... alas.

[vlad66]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

do not confuse congress and con

Yurievich I don’t confuse a drop, the US Congress and the military-industrial complex do not even stand next to normal people.

[svp67]

The decision of the city council to establish a monument was unanimous, the mayor called such solidarity “beautiful”.

Thanks to the people of America. Thank God, Russophobia did not strike her all, and there are still people who have preserved the memory that we were brothers in arms in that terrible war against the Nazi GADINA.

[KVU-NSVD]

there are still people who have preserved the memory of the fact that we were brothers in arms in that terrible war against the NAZI GADINA.

When such things happen, you feel that there is still hope.

[ul_vitalii]

I completely agree with you, it doesn’t matter which sauce, but American assistance during the war was substantial and was gratefully received by our people.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: ul_vitalii

American assistance during the war was substantial and was gratefully received by our people.

And gratitude was gold in kind ...

[ul_vitalii]

It’s not about disinterestedness, you can stay in the desert without a sip of water, but with a gold bar in your pocket.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: ul_vitalii

It’s not about disinterestedness, you can stay in the desert without a sip of water, but with a gold bar in your pocket.

Then negotiate, otherwise this help for compassionate people looks purely in Russian, like the disinterested help of our situational "friends."
Remind whom our "friends" frightened with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 45th?
And the article did not specify on whose initiative and for whose money they were going to erect a monument. At the expense of the Americans?

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: Sovetskiy

Quote: ul_vitalii

It’s not about disinterestedness, you can stay in the desert without a sip of water, but with a gold bar in your pocket.

Then negotiate, otherwise this help for compassionate people looks purely in Russian, like the disinterested help of our situational "friends."
Remind whom our "friends" frightened with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 45th?
And the article did not specify on whose initiative and for whose money they were going to erect a monument. At the expense of the Americans?

Once again, I draw your attention to the fact that for that period of time, assistance was provided on time and was in demand, and what happened later and up to today I know no worse than you and I have an appropriate attitude towards America.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Once again I draw your attention to the fact that for that period of time, assistance was provided on time and was in demand,

And no one denies this, the contract must be fulfilled.
The only thing I asked for was objectivity.
Remember how much after the war the USSR destroyed by the war, with a hungry population, paid Lend-Lease to the "allies"?
According to the mother’s recollections, the famine was in the first years after the war. Especially the 46th when they ate the quinoa. Could the “soyuznichki” give a respite for restoration? And given?

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: Sovetskiy

Quote: ul_vitalii

Once again I draw your attention to the fact that for that period of time, assistance was provided on time and was in demand,

And no one denies this, the contract must be fulfilled.
The only thing I asked for was objectivity.
Remember how much after the war the USSR destroyed by the war, with a hungry population, paid Lend-Lease to the "allies"?
According to the mother’s recollections, the famine was in the first years after the war. Especially the 46th when they ate the quinoa. Could the “soyuznichki” give a respite for restoration? And given?

I agree, my parents also captured this, and helped, when it was beneficial for them, I fully share your opinion, health and success to you!

[thinker]

And the article did not specify on whose initiative and for whose money they were going to erect a monument. At the expense of the Americans?

Initiative and manufacturing in Russia.
The sculpture is made of bronze and is a seaplane, which housed three pilots from the USSR, USA and Canada.
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
01802170048-92d7.htm
http://mt.topwar.ru/blog/43403925274/V-SSHA-ustan
ovyat-pamyatnik-11-sovetskim-letchikam

[Sotskiy]

Quote: thinker

The sculpture is made of bronze and is a seaplane, which housed three pilots from the USSR, USA and Canada.
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
01802170048-92d7.htm
http://mt.topwar.ru/blog/43403925274/V-SSHA-ustan
ovyat-pamyatnik-11-sovetskim-letchikam

Answer by link: "Page not found"
But if as you write, then what is there such euphoria? That the American mayor deigned (and also spoke out) to allow on his land to erect a monument to Russians, Americans and British for Russian (and not common) money?) If we compare our monuments with Ukraine and Poland, then yes! Peremoga! Gotta ride. And to remind with whose filing they are destroyed in the same Poland and Ukraine?

[thinker]

Here, clicking on the link does not work; %20Admins wrote. You must copy and paste into the address bar of the browser.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: thinker

You must copy and paste into the address bar of the browser.

Thanks, I will try.
I tried it. The result is the same.

[thinker]

There are two links, both?

[PENZA]

you tell him how Vasily Ivanovich Chapaev and petka exchange opened in the desert.

[RUSS]

Quote: Sovetskiy

And gratitude was gold in kind ...

At the front, the awards were for a downed plane or a wrecked tank ....

[bane's jacket]

Quote: Sovetskiy

Quote: ul_vitalii

American assistance during the war was substantial and was gratefully received by our people.

And gratitude was gold in kind ...

Who told you that?

Remember how much after the war the USSR destroyed by the war, with a hungry population, paid Lend-Lease to the "allies"?

And how many? Do you even have a slight idea when, how much and how much they paid for the Lend-Lease after the war?

And the article did not specify on whose initiative and for whose money they were going to erect a monument. At the expense of the Americans?

Are you kidding me? Are they all there "for a penny to suffocate"?

[Hanokem]

It's just that these are completely different things: gratitude to the Soviet people for the victory over the Nazi monster does not at all imply the automatic approval of the policies of modern Russia.

[svp67]

Quote: Hanokem

It's just that these are completely different things: gratitude to the Soviet people for the victory over the Nazi monster does not at all imply the automatic approval of the policies of modern Russia.

But what are you talking about now? We also don’t like much in US politics, but we don’t put ultimatums and do not try to destroy their state, trying to worsen the lives of all the people living in the USA. We just want one thing - let's respect the opinions and lives of other peoples and nations

[Sotskiy]

Quote: svp67

We just want one thing - let's respect the opinions and lives of other peoples and nations

It's impossible.
The battle for influence in the world, and in fact - there will always be resources, and this means the opinion of the weak does not interest anyone, except perhaps the same weak.

[Hanokem]

Well, understand - the Americans could not do anything when they annexed (liberated) Crimea. The whole post-war world in Europe was built on the principle of inviolability of borders. In the case of Crimea, this principle was violated. And the West could not impose sanctions on the violator. Is Crimea worth living under sanctions, it's up to you Russians.

[nathanael]

Just do not need about the inviolability of borders. Yugoslavia collapsed .. Even new pseudo-states appeared. After a dozen years, Germany will require its lands chopped off according to the results of the Second World War. And sanctions, yes, they do not care about them. Personally, they have not touched me at all. Even the diet has not changed

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: svp67

Thanks to the people of America. Thank God, Russophobia did not strike her all, and there are still people who have preserved the memory that we were brothers in arms in that terrible war against the Nazi GADINA.

just don’t cry ... there are few ...

[Herculesic]

There is still a memory of the period when they were, albeit forcedly, but allies! Now this is a story, and it’s good that it’s not yet completely forgotten! And for the monument, thanks!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Herkulesich

There is still a memory of the period when they were, albeit forcedly, but allies! Now this is a story, and it’s good that it’s not yet completely forgotten! And for the monument, thanks!

Yes it was. And do not forget.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Yes it was. And do not forget.

no one needs to forget Aron ...

[cniza]

It really is, and they say little about it, but they then helped us very much.

[bane's jacket]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Yes it was. And do not forget.

Add.

[ancestors from Don]

This once again confirms that ordinary Americans are by no means Russophobic and that today's pressure on the situation is beneficial only to the military-industrial complex, and on both sides and politicians who are gaining votes on the level of tension.

[RUSS]

It is interesting what our "patriots" would say if the monument to the Americans was erected in Russia?

[garnik]

It is interesting what our "patriots" would say if the monument to the Americans was erected in Russia?

We ourselves would express indignation with our posts. In general, people are all adequate, but the leaders of the states obey the desires of the oligarchs, which we have and they have.

[demo]

Let's discuss the need and appropriateness?

[Piramidon]

Quote: demo

Let's discuss the need and appropriateness?

Are there doubts?

[svp67]

Quote: RUSS

It is interesting what our "patriots" would say if the monument to the Americans was erected in Russia?

If in memory of the American pilots who died during the transfer of aircraft on Lend-Lease, it would be RAD and GORD for their Fatherland and the People, who, in the difficult days of our relationship, found the opportunity to pay tribute to the brothers in arms in a terrible war. And I really regret that we do not have such a monument, but there is a film ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: svp67

If in memory of the American pilots who died during the transfer of aircraft on Lend-Lease, it would be RAD and GORD for their Fatherland and the People, who, in the difficult days of our relationship, found the opportunity to pay tribute to the brothers in arms in a terrible war. ]

The British have.

[svp67]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

The British have.

And the French ...

[Vlad Morozov]

In the 45th, Kozhedub also smashed you. Probably forgotten. Well, they brought Hitler to power. And then the Nazis were hidden in Canada, instead of being judged! Hypocrites!

[Korax71]

Just like Comrade Stalin, you yourself can look for his quotes in the year 39-40, how the union will help the brotherly German people in every way in the fight against Europe. Or congratulations to Hitler on the occasion of the occupation of another country? It’s not worth talking about hypocrisy. it’s not violet to them that the common people did not spare life in the fight against the enemy, so thank them for that.

[Alexander 3]

I wonder if Trump will come to the opening of the monument?

[demo]

Normal initiative.
Sane people.
And then - Nemtsov Square.
For what valor?
For the robbery and collapse of the Russian Federation?

[olezenka1]

Then I do not understand: why in Krasnoyarsk (the end point of the Alaska-Siberia highway) there is still no common monument to all those who have mastered the highway and brought Victory closer ?! By the way, I live in a neighboring house from the famous Aviadom (street named after Ak. Vailova, 35), where the pilots of the two countries lived and rested from the flight. While the house is just not the most "weighty" commemorative plaque .....

[ancestors from Don]

Probably because the meager budget of your settlement will not be able to overpower more than a memorial plaque, and your head chooses to patch the roofs or repair the road. We have different approaches to the funded part of the settlements, the municipality collects taxes from them, and it waits for us when the funds are issued from the noble shoulder. You just have to keep the memory.

[olezenka1]

If the Siberian million-plus city is a settlement for you, sir, then your opinion no longer weighs ..... At least for me. No need, sir, to engage in liberal politicking on this issue. Here you are obviously weak. And we keep the memory, we have stored and will continue to store it without your opinion.

[Korax71]

Do you think this is possible in a country of spiritual bonds? After all, it’s said that Lend Lisa didn’t help, they wouldn’t have managed stew. What monuments ????? The USSR, after all, fought alone.

[olezenka1]

Try to look into history more closely.

[Piramidon]

So this question should not be asked to users of the VO site, but to the Novosibirsk administration. Take the initiative, collect signatures.

Quote: olezenka1

Then I do not understand: why in Krasnoyarsk (the end point of the Alaska-Siberia highway) there is still no common monument to all those who have mastered the highway and brought Victory closer ?!

[olezenka1]

You can, of course, ask a question. But where does the administration of Novosibirsk? We are talking about the end point of the Alaska-Siberia route, about Krasnoyarsk, the place where some arriving aircraft were repaired, refueled, and so on and flew to the Front. And others (mainly fighters) partially disassembled, put on the train platform and drove there. By the way, arriving planes landed on an island in the middle of the Yenisei (Molokov Island) very close to the historical center of the city. About the signature on the perpetuation of memory, I agree.

[Piramidon]

Sorry. It’s a mistake with Krasnoyarsk. But the essence does not change. All questions to local authorities.

[olezenka1]

Here is a tablet.

[san4es]

Soviet pilots were trained in piloting the Catalina seaplanes, which were then distilled to the Soviet Union

[Herculesic]

As always, for the video +, and thanks! !!

[san4es]

Nice plane .. sounds good.

[Cheburator]

That's good super

[Humans war]

I think that if we honored each other, respected, worked together and worked out, then of course we could have achieved a lot, there would have been no Ukrainian madness, no world Russophobia, the fucking politicians were almost to blame.

[tank66]

And it seems to me. Politicians are just parsley-lyceum actors on strings, controlled by Euroboss Karabas / I’ll call them like that. narrow-eyed, mixed-race, Fritz-Ivanov ..
.Now also the debilator with no directly drips into the brain ....

[Nikolai Petrov]

Yes, the Allies, WAS, nothing more than pennies. In 2004, they just gave them the fucking Lendlis. Americans are not soldiers. There is a Russian soldier, a Vietnamese, a German (was) .. The rest is meat for guns.

[RUSS]

Quote: Nikolai Petrov

Yes, the Allies, WAS, nothing more than pennies. In 2004, they just gave them the fucking Lendlis. Americans are not soldiers. There is a Russian soldier, a Vietnamese, a German (was) .. The rest is meat for guns.

Thinking baby.

[Korax71]

I would say speculation on the bones of my own and other ancestors who sacrificed their lives to fight the global enemy.

[A. Privalov]

"Catalina" before the war was built in the USSR under license. Called GTS - seaplane transport.
Here is such a handsome man on the background of the river station in Moscow. Approximately, 1940 year. People in the picture are not known to me.

[Hurricane70]

"A monument to Soviet pilots will appear in the USA"
Very good, if from the heart!
But who saw the soul of the mattress? But the reception is known: the reception of the Gossi evgeia - Sir, Genegal, as you are wearing your uniform, with freshly cooked pecking galloons! I wish you could tell poor evgey Moyshe to taggitogii your unit ..
Personally, I smell the cunning, although I really want to make a mistake ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Hurricane70

"A monument to Soviet pilots will appear in the USA"
Very good, if from the heart!
But who saw the soul of the mattress? But the reception is known: the reception of the Gossi evgeia - Sir, Genegal, as you are wearing your uniform, with freshly cooked pecking galloons! I wish you could tell poor evgey Moyshe to taggitogii your unit ..
Personally, I smell the cunning, although I really want to make a mistake ...

Trying to Grass does not mean you know Jews for whom Yiddish was the native language, but anti-Semitic stereotypes.

[high]

And most importantly, Mongolia did not wait for 1944. , and from June 22, 1941. declared its support for the USSR
[/ I][/ I]
Alas, you do not know history well, in the first months of the war, the Red Army lost about 4 million soldiers and officers prisoners, almost a million dead and died from wounds, the situation was catastrophic ..
The USA has been helping the USSR since 1941,
Zhukov: ,, "Speaking of our preparedness for war from the point of view of the economy and the economy, one cannot ignore such a factor as subsequent assistance from the Allies.
First of all, of course, from the side of the Americans, because the British in this sense helped us minimally.
When analyzing all sides of the war, this cannot be discounted. We would be in a difficult position without American gunpowder, we would not be able to produce the amount of ammunition that we needed.
Without the American "Studebakers" we would have nothing to carry our artillery on.
Yes, they largely provided our front-line transport in general.
The production of special steels, necessary for the most diverse needs of the war, was also associated with a number of American supplies.
It cannot be denied that the Americans drove us so much material without which we could not form our reserves and could not continue the war ...[I]
We had no explosives, gunpowder.
There was nothing to equip rifle cartridges. The Americans really helped us out with gunpowder and explosives. And how much they drove us sheet steel!
How could we quickly start producing tanks if it weren't for American help with steel? ,,

[Korax71]

You won’t bring it to anyone here. Proud patriots will say that this is all bullshit, we would have won, but a little longer. steel for production when you are not able to meet the needs for it. Everyone thinks that weapons, tanks and planes in the factories were pumped with a file.

[olezenka1]

And you, Korax71, do not believe that we would have won without external help !? Then you do not know something important about our country. Yes, it would be very difficult, sacrificial, terrible. But you would have won anyway ...... You’re a sucker, if you didn’t understand the obvious things about our people ..........

[M. Michelson]

Well done Trump! It fulfills the price of its abandonment.