Russian Helicopters create an 300-kilogram drone according to the Toros project

The state procurement website contains a note that talks about the development of a new unmanned aerial vehicle in the design bureau of the Russian Helicopters holding company. KB "BP-Technologies" conducted a comprehensive study and even determined the appearance of the new UAV-helicopter. Flight prototype will be created at the Rostov enterprise Rostvertol.

This is a helicopter-type unmanned aerial vehicle having a mass of about 300 kg. In this case, it is reported that this UAV will be able to carry a payload weighing up to 70 kg.

It is noted that before the middle of this year, the designers of VR-Technologies will conduct experimental studies of the engine of a promising helicopter -drone "on the ground". It is also planned to study the operation of the transmission and carrier system. The complex of research and creation of a new unmanned aerial vehicle is designated by the code name "Toros".

The submission says that the flight tests of the UAV will be completed by the end of January 2019.

Indicated and the total cost of the work. It is about 395 million rubles.

What do designers expect from a new car? - Flight duration up to 6 hours, radius - at least 150 km, maximum flight speed - about 180 km / h. At the same time stated that the drone must be all-weather and able to operate both over the plain and over rough terrain.

Comments

[Spartanez300]

The drone is too light and the payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.

[210ox]

Well, there is no other heavier yet. And it is very necessary. If there is someone and for what money, then why not do it.

Quote: Spartanez300

The drone is too light and the payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: 210ox

I really need

to whom?

Quote: 210ox

and for what money

the main thing is if only to private .... then at least a death star !!

[Logall]

Progress is moving, soon exclusively robots will come out onto the battlefield ... And people will watch this action live from the journalists' own robots ...
So it will reach the robot wives!

[Andrey K]

Logall

... Progress is moving ...
... So it will reach the robot wives! ...

Holy
I like our living nesting dolls

[Logall]

Welcome

Quote: Andrey K

our living dolls like

And who is arguing ?! But enough perverts ...
Everything should be in moderation! And progress is no exception.

[Andrey K]

Logall

... But enough perverts ...

Scary however
A critical mass of lovers of mechanical wives can put fans of "nested dolls" into the category of perverts

[bouncyhunter]

"Drinking, weather, and a woman cannot be replaced with" something similar. "" (c) R. Heinlein

[Logall]

Quote: Andrey K

put fans of "nested dolls" into the category of perverts

[Shurik70]

Quote: bouncyhunter

"Drinking, weather, and a woman cannot be replaced with" something similar. "" (c) R. Heinlein

And I like Baltika-0

Quote: Logall

the most oppressed type in the world:
Man. White. Natural. And atheist

Super! Who is the author?

[Svarog51]

Andrey, welcome
[quote] Holy
I like our living nesting dolls [quote]
Now imagine - mechanical at home, but for the soul and body - you have to pay, the living will immediately cut through this chip. Hence the conclusion - in no case to create. Enough of them all sorts of electronic chips at home. It is necessary to create an electronic carrier for all types of transport, the wife in the electronic-mechanical form is worse than a nuclear explosion. Although what am I talking about? They are sometimes ....

[Andrey K]

Svarog51
Be healthy Sergey

... Now imagine - mechanical at home, but for the soul and body - you have to pay, the living will immediately perish this chip ...
... the wife in the electronic-mechanical form is worse than a nuclear explosion. Although what am I talking about? They are sometimes ....

It’s even scary to imagine.
Sometimes and without any "pore", lyuley from a beloved can fly

[Svarog]

Quote: Logall

So it will reach the robot wives!

Already arrived http://robot.jofo.me/index.php?id=552295§
ion = blog & tp = view

[210ox]

Who? Army, civilian services. Yes, and even just for the sake of experience .. We have few in creating such machines.

Quote: Tiksi-3

Quote: 210ox

I really need

to whom?

Quote: 210ox

and for what money

the main thing is if only to private .... then at least a death star !!

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Spartanez300

The drone is too light and the payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.

I think - you are wrong! In its niche, mass, radius, payload - quite a worthy instance, it can turn out. Yes, and 70kg - not a little at all, tracking equipment (day, night, IR) can be hung. Yes, and if it is used as a strike (which is not a word, by the way), then it will drag a couple of ATGMs.
Well, money ???, and what do we have from inexpensive developments? Everyone wants to eat, unfortunately at someone else's expense!

[Lopatov]

Quote: Hunter 2

Yes, and 70kg - not a little

Twice as many as the world's most popular Austrian S-100 Camcopter

[VALERIK_097]

The next traffic police The next drone, will take off in a couple of months.

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

As we already have grandmothers, I'm sorry there are no other words! A serious company collects some kind of crap with Pts. a small payload for almost half a lard !!! In our model airplane club, 10-year-olds collect models for free with a load of 10 kg!

[Lopatov]

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

In our model airplane club, 10-year-olds collect models for free with a load of 10 kg!

8)))))
Payload Payload is different.
On real UAVs not from an aircraft model mug, the payload tends to consume electricity, if not inside itself ... And this is precisely this is the main problem

And in general, tired of these tales about the model circle ...

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

As we already have grandmothers, I'm sorry there are no other words! A serious company collects some kind of crap with Pts. a small payload for almost half a lard !!!

Engine. Read the article all the same before you post.

When they made a helicopter-type UAV with the same usefulness and with an imported diesel, everything on the site simply went hysterical "what about import substitution"
They decided to develop their own, again hysterical: "for the development of the engine, you have to pay money, theft, theft, theft, theft ... They are obliged to do it for free by finding materials for it at a local dump ..."

Offer your "model airplane mug" to create from scratch a helicopter engine of 200 horses. Is free. 8)))))))))))))))))))

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

You can laugh as much as you want to place 70kg in total on it. What is its radius of action? There is no hysteria, money needs to be given in the right hands to those who really do something, or they only steal. Everyone already has drones, and the Turks and Iran, but ours did what? If we had drones, we would not have to lose pilots in this fucking Syria. Israel bought a license for several billion! Why not invest this money in your development ?!

[Galleon]

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

There is no hysteria, money must be given in the right hands

Yurka Serdyukov’s Helicopters of Russia has the most needed hands, yeah.

[Lopatov]

Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN

You can laugh as much as you like that you are going to place 70kg in total on it.

The whole list will be huge 8)))
Offhand for artillery.
- UAV spotter with day / night optics and a long-range target illumination system for UAS
- UAV carrier thermal station "Penicillin" - counter-battery fight
- UAV carrier radar determine the coordinates of the firing guns - counter-battery, sighting
- UAV carrier station reconnaissance ground moving targets
- UAV - carrier of a radio intelligence station
- UAV for 3D mapping

[Dikson]

yes ... and Stechkina with eighteen clips ... and he has 20 minutes of flight time? take-off and landing in front of satisfied fathers - commanders? .. or have we already developed normal batteries? Or is there anything other than a nameplate there is nothing Russian?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dikson

and his flight time is 20 minutes?

Read the article before posting. For, as practice shows, viewing the picture for a complete understanding is not enough.
Flight duration up to 6 hours, radius - at least 150 km, maximum flight speed - about 180 km / h.

Quote: Dikson

Or have we already developed normal batteries?

And what is “normal batteries” in your understanding?
Are you going to take a helicopter UAV of this weight into the air with an electric motor? 8))))) I'm afraid nobody has invented such a "normal battery" yet.
Here the engine is estimated at 60-70 horses needed, if judged by the "Chinese" of the same class.

[Dikson]

I read the article .. but this is about an energy-intensive payload, as I understand it? The army option is definitely a duplication of all systems .. hence the promise to the batteries is viable, and to the flight range ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dikson

The army option is definitely a duplication of all systems ..

If you want to duplicate so much, you can put a second generator.

[Dikson]

Do not "want" - and this should be a prerequisite, but in general - why is there such rubbish in the source data? at a speed of 180 km / h and at 6 hours of guaranteed flight, a range of 150 km is not obtained.

[Genry]

Quote: Dikson

it doesn’t work out a range of 150 km ..

Alley ... The client does not understand that radius and range are two big differences.
Just this turntable without satellite communications ... And she needs time to "watch" over the territory. It can hang there or fly around points of interest along an arbitrary route.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dikson

Do not "want" - and this should be a prerequisite

What for? To make it more convenient to yell "cut!" "why so expensive!"?

Quote: Dikson

at a speed of 180 km / h and at 6 hours of guaranteed flight, a range of 150 km is not obtained.

And what is incomprehensible to you here?
The first is the characteristic of the highest possible speed.
The second is the characteristic of the flight time for fuel.
The third characteristic of the control system.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Spade

Offer your "model airplane mug" to create from scratch a helicopter engine of 200 horses. Is free.

- Try out every couch from the sofa. And then so many brains took a simple horse ...

[Vladimir 5]

A model worthy of modernization. For example: rename the nail “fast and furious.” Replace the machine gun “Maxim” with “Gatling” with manual scrolling of the late 19th century, the installation is correct in the “drape” mode. To equip the gunner’s seat with a hole in the pot in case of danger (diarrhea) and a bag of diapers. Rename the strange plastic fantasy of the engineer into an inflatable weapon "for fear." 4 berets replaced by khaki with lacing (the ability to run into shelters to lacerate each one), install an additional conveyor belt with the “attack” mode and idle scrolling of the legs running “in attack” ... Hang the Sosa-Sola energetics from the oat ... etc.

[Svarog51]

Vladimir And what about the "strange fantasy of the chief engineer"? If you attach a tank caliber, then it will fit in the offensive.

[kenig1]

The segment should be different.

[siberalt]

It will be in the suburbs of traffic violators on the camera. On fines and will pay off.

[smart ass]

For example, based on the su25 drone, so as not to lose great pilots

[Piramidon]

Quote: Spartanez300

The drone is too light and the payload is small.

It depends on what tasks are being set for it. If intelligence, then more is not necessary.

[Vladimir 5]

If such a “fluff” is advertised only at the beginning of the project (because there is nothing to show the results), then things are bad with our military-industrial complex and the Russian Defense Ministry ...

[KVU-NSVD]

This is a helicopter-type unmanned aerial vehicle having a mass of about 300 kg. In this case, it is reported that this UAV will be able to carry a payload weighing up to 70 kg.

Flight duration up to 6 hours, radius - at least 150 km, maximum flight speed - about 180 km / h.

And what is its practical purpose? Dimensional, with a small radius, with a small load, a priori probably more expensive than aircraft competitors with similar characteristics .... As a scout? too expensive and large, airplane counterparts are simpler and cheaper .. How is the delivery man to the front line? he takes a little load and is again very noticeable ... In general, I would like to know the alleged niche.

[Ascetic]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

In general, I would like to know the alleged niche.

Probably for monitoring and control, the traffic situation, for example, is much cheaper in motor hours than a manned helicopter. For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO

[KVU-NSVD]

For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO

In civilian life, of course, there is application, it’s not for nothing that the developments are

[Lopatov]

Quote: Ascetic

For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO

How good it is. The "niche" is just awesome. Radar, optics, radio intelligence stations ...

[KVU-NSVD]

How good it is. The "niche" is just awesome. Radar, optics, radio intelligence stations ...

The radar requires a powerful source of energy, and the selection of engine power will affect the time of "hanging" and on the ceiling, Optics? Well, I still think "visual reconnaissance" in tactical depth (150 km range) does not require such expensive, noticeable devices .. RTR? Perhaps .. If in a “pure” form without a powerful electronic warfare function (again, powerful electronic power sources are needed) ... + as a repeater of “network-centricity” and communications ... Here it’s quite ... But here’s an “airplane” analogue with a large ceiling, with the same introductory and most likely cheaper, it seems nevertheless preferable .... Let's see what kind of niche he’ll “come up with” ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Radar requires a powerful energy source

Of this?

[KVU-NSVD]

Of this?

So what a radar ... The laser pointer at heart is also a blaster

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

So what a radar

Great. 1L277 "Sobolyatnik"

[KVU-NSVD]

Great. 1L277 "Sobolyatnik"

You can put an art reconnaissance station, But it will become easily vulnerable once, more accessible to suppressing two and hanging on an expensive copter that works perfectly fine on the ground is three. About the fact that to the "air" version of the station with a weight of 40 kg it is necessary to add at least r / st, ADF and ZAS (and there you look, and there is not enough load capacity ..) I do not think ...

[Genry]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

About the fact that to the "air" version of the station with a weight of 40 kg it is necessary to add at least r / st, ADF and ZAS (and there you look, and there is not enough load capacity ..) I do not think ...

All this is performed on one computing unit. ZAS time in the form of iron cabinets has already passed.

[KVU-NSVD]

ZAS time in the form of iron cabinets has already passed.

If there was a closet, then there would be no subject of dispute

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

But she will become vulnerable once

On the contrary. It is easily vulnerable when installed on the ground. Notched, covered. But on an UAV, this is much more complicated.

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Overall

Not so overall. That's what 350 kg looks like. "Chinese" SVU-200

Quote: KVU-NSVD

And what is its practical purpose?

An aircraft-type UAV with such a payload needs an airfield

[Galleon]

Let's wait a bit - advertisers will formulate a niche.
Here it is: VKS lived and lived, and did not know that they really needed such a seemingly worthless gravitap. So far, literate people have not come and explained.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Galleon

Here it is: VKS lived and lived, and did not know that they really needed such a seemingly worthless gravitap. So far, literate people have not come and explained.

Why is everyone obsessed with the videoconferencing system and so they want a vigorous bomb to hang from it? The article does not say a word that he was ordered by the military. Government procurements and state defense orders are two different things. After all, we use drones in civilian life.

[Piramidon]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

How is a scout? too expensive and large, airplane counterparts are simpler and cheaper .. How is the delivery man to the front line? he takes a little load and is again very noticeable ... In general, I would like to know the alleged niche.

It is not necessary to send him to the front and mount missiles on him. In addition to the Ministry of Defense, there is an Emergencies Ministry and the State Automobile Inspectorate, as well as monitoring of pipelines and power transmission lines and ice reconnaissance when navigating ships along the NSR ... You can use it in any niche. And then we are driving along the route of the Mi-8 gas pipeline.

[KVU-NSVD]

Totally agree with you

KVU-NSVD 1 Today, 10:57 ↑
For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO
In civilian life, of course, there is application, it’s not for nothing that the developments are

[Russia]

Exploration is expensive, so it’s for specific tasks and conditions.

[askort154]

Spartanez300 .... Too light drone and payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.

It’s scary to think how many drones would work if you cut the Abromovich yachts.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: askort154

It’s scary to think how many drones would work if you cut the Abromovich’s yachts

Abramovich began to merge his shares in Russia .. He feels that under him and people like him they began to dig tight! In London, the USA and Israel, many are sitting and shaking .. some are already asking for back, they are ready to give everything, just to forgive .. Russian drones will be wet selectively, with an intellectual component .. Think fiction? Alas, no such foundation was laid back in Soviet times ..

[Vitaly Anisimov]

We are talking about an unmanned aerial vehicle of a helicopter type, having a mass of about 300 kg.

Guys are working and I think a lot of things are simply hiding from the "our curious" media .. The secrecy of our Russians has always been at the highest level and this often saved us in our long-suffering history ..

[askort154]

MIKHAN .....The secrecy of our Russians has always been at the highest level ...

Yeah. Because of the "highest" Russian secrecy, in the villages the peasants were monogamous. Because, if you "go" to a neighbor, in the morning the whole village knew.

[Svarog51]

if you "go" to a neighbor, in the morning the whole village knew.

And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ... Alexander No offense? Joke.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Svarog51

if you "go" to a neighbor, in the morning the whole village knew.

And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ... Alexander No offense? Joke.

Excellent pinned Sergey! Hello !

[faiver]

don't do it ...

[loginovich]

The engine is under the prodigy: Or it will be like PAK - here we will put a new engine and then ...
Is it really not clear that no new aircraft can be created without a new engine. This also applies to ground and water equipment.

[Dikson]

This is a circle of young technicians, and not a serious development .. another batch of dust in the eyes and cut money .. I saw this many times - when the same radio-controlled model from the circle of pioneers was taken to exhibitions and fairs, in the hope of finding a stupid customer and making money on a children's designer .. Skolkovo’s business lives and thrives .. LEGO designers can do more .. Chinese toys can do more ..

[ancestors from Don]

For relatively cheap UAVs are the future of attack aircraft. A huge number of brisk, hardly noticeable on air defense radars, they can cause significant damage to the enemy.

[Dikson]

the fact of the matter is that this particular product clearly does not promise to be cheap, brisk and inconspicuous .. it is certainly better to lose such an ashtray than to ruin the life of a combat pilot .. but forgive me, I can’t believe that it will come to flying, something- then a really powerful sample ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: Dikson

the fact of the matter is that this particular product clearly does not promise to be cheap,

Why make a guess. It will appear on "AliExpress", then we will discuss the price.

[Dikson]

Lopatov, You know, I’m somehow used to the fact that army equipment differs from duplicated systems from household juicers .. old probably?

[Mentat]

Quote: Logall

Quote: Andrey K

put fans of "nested dolls" into the category of perverts

It is not clear why the question of faith is pushed here. Some poem is very artificial, don’t you think so?
For a black man was convicted, called a sexist. And for atheism in the world, is there any kind of persecution? Quite the contrary, they are stepping up pressure on Christianity.
Therefore, I consider the poem artificially cobbled together as a cadaver from those who condemn and label.

[Falcond]

And somewhere in a parallel universe