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Russian Helicopters create an 300-kilogram drone according to the Toros project

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The state procurement website contains a note that talks about the development of a new unmanned aerial vehicle in the design bureau of the Russian Helicopters holding company. KB "BP-Technologies" conducted a comprehensive study and even determined the appearance of the new UAV-helicopter. Flight prototype will be created at the Rostov enterprise Rostvertol.


This is a helicopter-type unmanned aerial vehicle having a mass of about 300 kg. In this case, it is reported that this UAV will be able to carry a payload weighing up to 70 kg.

It is noted that until the middle of this year, designers of BP-Technology will conduct experimental studies of the engine of a promising helicopter-UAV "on the ground." It is also planned to study the work of the transmission and the carrier system. The complex of research and creation of a new unmanned aerial vehicle is denoted by the codename "Toros".

Russian Helicopters create an 300-kilogram drone according to the Toros project


The submission says that the flight tests of the UAV will be completed by the end of January 2019.

Indicated and the total cost of the work. It is about 395 million rubles.

What do designers expect from a new car? - Flight duration up to 6 hours, radius - at least 150 km, maximum flight speed - about 180 km / h. At the same time stated that the drone must be all-weather and able to operate both over the plain and over rough terrain.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 17 February 2018 10: 28
    +7
    The drone is too light and the payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 17 February 2018 10: 30
      +5
      Well, there is no other heavier yet. And it is very necessary. If there is someone and for what money, then why not do it.
      Quote: Spartanez300
      The drone is too light and the payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 17 February 2018 10: 36
        +6
        Quote: 210ox
        I really need

        to whom?
        Quote: 210ox
        and for what money

        the main thing is if only to private .... then at least a death star !!
        1. Logall
          Logall 17 February 2018 10: 39
          +7
          Progress is moving, soon exclusively robots will come out onto the battlefield ... And people will watch this action live from the journalists' own robots ...
          So it will reach the robot wives!
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 17 February 2018 10: 45
            +13
            Logall hi laughing
            ... Progress is moving ...
            ... So it will reach the robot wives! ...

            Holy
            I like our living nesting dolls yes
            1. Logall
              Logall 17 February 2018 10: 58
              +9
              Welcome hi
              Quote: Andrey K
              our living dolls like

              And who is arguing ?! But enough perverts ...
              Everything should be in moderation! And progress is no exception.
              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 17 February 2018 11: 11
                +8
                Logall
                ... But enough perverts ...

                Scary however belay
                A critical mass of lovers of mechanical wives can put fans of "nested dolls" into the category of perverts laughing
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 17 February 2018 11: 17
                  +5
                  "Drinking, weather, and a woman cannot be replaced with" something similar. "" (c) R. Heinlein
                2. Logall
                  Logall 17 February 2018 11: 19
                  +28
                  Quote: Andrey K
                  put fans of "nested dolls" into the category of perverts

                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 18 February 2018 01: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    "Drinking, weather, and a woman cannot be replaced with" something similar. "" (c) R. Heinlein

                    And I like Baltika-0 sad
                    Quote: Logall
                    the most oppressed type in the world:
                    Man. White. Natural. And atheist

                    Super! Who is the author?
            2. Svarog51
              Svarog51 17 February 2018 15: 40
              +2
              Andrey, welcome hi
              [quote] Holy
              I like our living nesting dolls [quote]
              Now imagine - mechanical at home, but for the soul and body - you have to pay, the living will immediately cut through this chip. Hence the conclusion - in no case to create. Enough of them all sorts of electronic chips at home. It is necessary to create an electronic carrier for all types of transport, the wife in the electronic-mechanical form is worse than a nuclear explosion. Although what am I talking about? They are sometimes .... crying
              1. Andrey K
                Andrey K 17 February 2018 20: 24
                +6
                Svarog51
                Be healthy Sergey hi
                ... Now imagine - mechanical at home, but for the soul and body - you have to pay, the living will immediately perish this chip ...
                ... the wife in the electronic-mechanical form is worse than a nuclear explosion. Although what am I talking about? They are sometimes .... crying

                It’s even scary to imagine.
                Sometimes and without any "pore", lyuley from a beloved can fly laughing
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 17 February 2018 11: 22
            +5
            Quote: Logall
            So it will reach the robot wives!

            Already arrived http://robot.jofo.me/index.php?id=552295§
            ion = blog & tp = view
        2. 210ox
          210ox 17 February 2018 11: 07
          +5
          Who? Army, civilian services. Yes, and even just for the sake of experience .. We have few in creating such machines.
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          Quote: 210ox
          I really need

          to whom?
          Quote: 210ox
          and for what money

          the main thing is if only to private .... then at least a death star !!
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    2. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 17 February 2018 10: 48
      +6
      Quote: Spartanez300
      The drone is too light and the payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.

      I think - you are wrong! In its niche, mass, radius, payload - quite a worthy instance, it can turn out. Yes, and 70kg - not a little at all, tracking equipment (day, night, IR) can be hung. Yes, and if it is used as a strike (which is not a word, by the way), then it will drag a couple of ATGMs.
      Well, money ???, and what do we have from inexpensive developments? Everyone wants to eat, unfortunately at someone else's expense! yes
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 17 February 2018 11: 29
        +6
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Yes, and 70kg - not a little

        Twice as many as the world's most popular Austrian S-100 Camcopter
      2. VALERIK_097
        VALERIK_097 17 February 2018 12: 29
        0
        The next traffic police The next drone, will take off in a couple of months.
    3. ALEX_SHTURMAN
      ALEX_SHTURMAN 17 February 2018 10: 52
      +4
      As we already have grandmothers, I'm sorry there are no other words! A serious company collects some kind of crap with Pts. a small payload for almost half a lard !!! In our model airplane club, 10-year-olds collect models for free with a load of 10 kg!
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 17 February 2018 11: 26
        +11
        Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
        In our model airplane club, 10-year-olds collect models for free with a load of 10 kg!

        8)))))
        Payload Payload is different.
        On real UAVs not from an aircraft model mug, the payload tends to consume electricity, if not inside itself ... And this is precisely this is the main problem

        And in general, tired of these tales about the model circle ...



        Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
        As we already have grandmothers, I'm sorry there are no other words! A serious company collects some kind of crap with Pts. a small payload for almost half a lard !!!

        Engine. Read the article all the same before you post.

        When they made a helicopter-type UAV with the same usefulness and with an imported diesel, everything on the site simply went hysterical "what about import substitution"
        They decided to develop their own, again hysterical: "for the development of the engine, you have to pay money, theft, theft, theft, theft ... They are obliged to do it for free by finding materials for it at a local dump ..."

        Offer your "model airplane mug" to create from scratch a helicopter engine of 200 horses. Is free. 8)))))))))))))))))))
        1. ALEX_SHTURMAN
          ALEX_SHTURMAN 17 February 2018 11: 40
          +4
          You can laugh as much as you want to place 70kg in total on it. What is its radius of action? There is no hysteria, money needs to be given in the right hands to those who really do something, or they only steal. Everyone already has drones, and the Turks and Iran, but ours did what? If we had drones, we would not have to lose pilots in this fucking Syria. Israel bought a license for several billion! Why not invest this money in your development ?!
          1. Galleon
            Galleon 17 February 2018 12: 01
            +1
            Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
            There is no hysteria, money must be given in the right hands

            Yurka Serdyukov’s Helicopters of Russia has the most needed hands, yeah.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 17 February 2018 12: 03
            +7
            Quote: ALEX_SHTURMAN
            You can laugh as much as you like that you are going to place 70kg in total on it.

            The whole list will be huge 8)))
            Offhand for artillery.
            - UAV spotter with day / night optics and a long-range target illumination system for UAS
            - UAV carrier thermal station "Penicillin" - counter-battery fight
            - UAV carrier radar determine the coordinates of the firing guns - counter-battery, sighting
            - UAV carrier station reconnaissance ground moving targets
            - UAV - carrier of a radio intelligence station
            - UAV for 3D mapping
            1. Dikson
              Dikson 17 February 2018 12: 19
              +1
              yes ... and Stechkina with eighteen clips ... and he has 20 minutes of flight time? take-off and landing in front of satisfied fathers - commanders? .. or have we already developed normal batteries? Or is there anything other than a nameplate there is nothing Russian?
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 17 February 2018 12: 53
                +8
                Quote: Dikson
                and his flight time is 20 minutes?

                Read the article before posting. For, as practice shows, viewing the picture for a complete understanding is not enough.
                Flight duration up to 6 hours, radius - at least 150 km, maximum flight speed - about 180 km / h.

                Quote: Dikson
                Or have we already developed normal batteries?

                And what is “normal batteries” in your understanding?
                Are you going to take a helicopter UAV of this weight into the air with an electric motor? 8))))) I'm afraid nobody has invented such a "normal battery" yet.
                Here the engine is estimated at 60-70 horses needed, if judged by the "Chinese" of the same class.
                1. Dikson
                  Dikson 17 February 2018 13: 27
                  0
                  I read the article .. but this is about an energy-intensive payload, as I understand it? The army option is definitely a duplication of all systems .. hence the promise to the batteries is viable, and to the flight range ..
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 17 February 2018 13: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Dikson
                    The army option is definitely a duplication of all systems ..

                    If you want to duplicate so much, you can put a second generator.
                    1. Dikson
                      Dikson 17 February 2018 14: 27
                      0
                      Do not "want" - and this should be a prerequisite, but in general - why is there such rubbish in the source data? at a speed of 180 km / h and at 6 hours of guaranteed flight, a range of 150 km is not obtained.
                      1. Genry
                        Genry 17 February 2018 16: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: Dikson
                        it doesn’t work out a range of 150 km ..

                        Alley ... The client does not understand that radius and range are two big differences.
                        Just this turntable without satellite communications ... And she needs time to "watch" over the territory. It can hang there or fly around points of interest along an arbitrary route.
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 17 February 2018 16: 50
                        +3
                        Quote: Dikson
                        Do not "want" - and this should be a prerequisite

                        What for? To make it more convenient to yell "cut!" "why so expensive!"?

                        Quote: Dikson
                        at a speed of 180 km / h and at 6 hours of guaranteed flight, a range of 150 km is not obtained.

                        And what is incomprehensible to you here?
                        The first is the characteristic of the highest possible speed.
                        The second is the characteristic of the flight time for fuel.
                        The third characteristic of the control system.
        2. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 17 February 2018 12: 15
          +3
          Quote: Spade
          Offer your "model airplane mug" to create from scratch a helicopter engine of 200 horses. Is free.
          - Try out every couch from the sofa. And then so many brains took a simple horse ...
          1. Vladimir 5
            Vladimir 5 17 February 2018 14: 58
            +2
            A model worthy of modernization. For example: rename the nail “fast and furious.” Replace the machine gun “Maxim” with “Gatling” with manual scrolling of the late 19th century, the installation is correct in the “drape” mode. To equip the gunner’s seat with a hole in the pot in case of danger (diarrhea) and a bag of diapers. Rename the strange plastic fantasy of the engineer into an inflatable weapon "for fear." 4 berets replaced by khaki with lacing (the ability to run into shelters to lacerate each one), install an additional conveyor belt with the “attack” mode and idle scrolling of the legs running “in attack” ... Hang the Sosa-Sola energetics from the oat ... etc.
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 17 February 2018 15: 46
              +1
              Vladimir hi And what about the "strange fantasy of the chief engineer"? If you attach a tank caliber, then it will fit in the offensive. good
    4. kenig1
      kenig1 17 February 2018 11: 28
      0
      The segment should be different.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 17 February 2018 11: 43
      0
      It will be in the suburbs of traffic violators on the camera. On fines and will pay off. winked
    6. smart ass
      smart ass 17 February 2018 12: 30
      0
      For example, based on the su25 drone, so as not to lose great pilots
    7. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 February 2018 13: 50
      0
      Quote: Spartanez300
      The drone is too light and the payload is small.

      It depends on what tasks are being set for it. If intelligence, then more is not necessary.
    8. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 17 February 2018 14: 35
      -1
      If such a “fluff” is advertised only at the beginning of the project (because there is nothing to show the results), then things are bad with our military-industrial complex and the Russian Defense Ministry ...
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 10: 40
    +8
    This is a helicopter-type unmanned aerial vehicle having a mass of about 300 kg. In this case, it is reported that this UAV will be able to carry a payload weighing up to 70 kg.
    Flight duration up to 6 hours, radius - at least 150 km, maximum flight speed - about 180 km / h.
    And what is its practical purpose? Dimensional, with a small radius, with a small load, a priori probably more expensive than aircraft competitors with similar characteristics .... As a scout? too expensive and large, airplane counterparts are simpler and cheaper .. How is the delivery man to the front line? he takes a little load and is again very noticeable ... In general, I would like to know the alleged niche.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 17 February 2018 10: 52
      +4
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      In general, I would like to know the alleged niche.


      Probably for monitoring and control, the traffic situation, for example, is much cheaper in motor hours than a manned helicopter. For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 10: 57
        +5
        For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO
        In civilian life, of course, there is application, it’s not for nothing that the developments are
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 17 February 2018 11: 14
        +2
        Quote: Ascetic
        For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO

        How good it is. The "niche" is just awesome. Radar, optics, radio intelligence stations ...
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 12: 30
          +6
          How good it is. The "niche" is just awesome. Radar, optics, radio intelligence stations ...
          The radar requires a powerful source of energy, and the selection of engine power will affect the time of "hanging" and on the ceiling, Optics? Well, I still think "visual reconnaissance" in tactical depth (150 km range) does not require such expensive, noticeable devices .. RTR? Perhaps .. If in a “pure” form without a powerful electronic warfare function (again, powerful electronic power sources are needed) ... + as a repeater of “network-centricity” and communications ... Here it’s quite ... But here’s an “airplane” analogue with a large ceiling, with the same introductory and most likely cheaper, it seems nevertheless preferable .... Let's see what kind of niche he’ll “come up with” ..
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 17 February 2018 13: 00
            +1
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            Radar requires a powerful energy source

            Of this?
            1. KVU-NSVD
              KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 13: 06
              +5
              Of this?
              So what a radar ... smile The laser pointer at heart is also a blaster winked
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 17 February 2018 13: 08
                +1
                Quote: KVU-NSVD
                So what a radar

                Great. 1L277 "Sobolyatnik"
                1. KVU-NSVD
                  KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 13: 47
                  +5
                  Great. 1L277 "Sobolyatnik"
                  You can put an art reconnaissance station, But it will become easily vulnerable once, more accessible to suppressing two and hanging on an expensive copter that works perfectly fine on the ground is three. About the fact that to the "air" version of the station with a weight of 40 kg it is necessary to add at least r / st, ADF and ZAS (and there you look, and there is not enough load capacity ..) I do not think ...
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 17 February 2018 16: 12
                    0
                    Quote: KVU-NSVD
                    About the fact that to the "air" version of the station with a weight of 40 kg it is necessary to add at least r / st, ADF and ZAS (and there you look, and there is not enough load capacity ..) I do not think ...

                    All this is performed on one computing unit. ZAS time in the form of iron cabinets has already passed.
                    1. KVU-NSVD
                      KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 16: 17
                      +5
                      ZAS time in the form of iron cabinets has already passed.
                      If there was a closet, then there would be no subject of dispute laughing
                  2. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 17 February 2018 16: 56
                    0
                    Quote: KVU-NSVD
                    But she will become vulnerable once

                    On the contrary. It is easily vulnerable when installed on the ground. Notched, covered. But on an UAV, this is much more complicated.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 February 2018 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Overall

      Not so overall. That's what 350 kg looks like. "Chinese" SVU-200

      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      And what is its practical purpose?

      An aircraft-type UAV with such a payload needs an airfield
    3. Galleon
      Galleon 17 February 2018 12: 05
      +1
      Let's wait a bit - advertisers will formulate a niche.
      Here it is: VKS lived and lived, and did not know that they really needed such a seemingly worthless gravitap. So far, literate people have not come and explained.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 17 February 2018 16: 42
        0
        Quote: Galleon
        Here it is: VKS lived and lived, and did not know that they really needed such a seemingly worthless gravitap. So far, literate people have not come and explained.

        Why is everyone obsessed with the videoconferencing system and so they want a vigorous bomb to hang from it? The article does not say a word that he was ordered by the military. Government procurements and state defense orders are two different things. After all, we use drones in civilian life.
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 February 2018 15: 21
      +1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      How is a scout? too expensive and large, airplane counterparts are simpler and cheaper .. How is the delivery man to the front line? he takes a little load and is again very noticeable ... In general, I would like to know the alleged niche.

      It is not necessary to send him to the front and mount missiles on him. In addition to the Ministry of Defense, there is an Emergencies Ministry and the State Automobile Inspectorate, as well as monitoring of pipelines and power transmission lines and ice reconnaissance when navigating ships along the NSR ... You can use it in any niche. And then we are driving along the route of the Mi-8 gas pipeline.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 17 February 2018 15: 24
        +5
        Totally agree with you
        KVU-NSVD 1 Today, 10:57 ↑
        For military tasks and the fight against anti-terror, this pepelats is not suitable IMHO
        In civilian life, of course, there is application, it’s not for nothing that the developments are
        hi
  3. Russia
    Russia 17 February 2018 10: 43
    +10
    Exploration is expensive, so it’s for specific tasks and conditions.
  4. askort154
    askort154 17 February 2018 10: 53
    +1
    Spartanez300 .... Too light drone and payload is small. For that kind of money, they could create something more serious.

    It’s scary to think how many drones would work if you cut the Abromovich yachts. belay
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 17 February 2018 11: 09
      +4
      Quote: askort154
      It’s scary to think how many drones would work if you cut the Abromovich’s yachts

      Abramovich began to merge his shares in Russia .. He feels that under him and people like him they began to dig tight! In London, the USA and Israel, many are sitting and shaking .. some are already asking for back, they are ready to give everything, just to forgive .. negative Russian drones will be wet selectively, with an intellectual component .. Think fiction? Alas, no such foundation was laid back in Soviet times .. soldier
  5. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 17 February 2018 11: 02
    +2
    We are talking about an unmanned aerial vehicle of a helicopter type, having a mass of about 300 kg.

    Guys are working and I think a lot of things are simply hiding from the "our curious" media .. The secrecy of our Russians has always been at the highest level and this often saved us in our long-suffering history ..
    1. askort154
      askort154 17 February 2018 11: 09
      +8
      MIKHAN .....The secrecy of our Russians has always been at the highest level ...

      Yeah. Because of the "highest" Russian secrecy, in the villages the peasants were monogamous. Because, if you "go" to a neighbor, in the morning the whole village knew. wink
      1. Svarog51
        Svarog51 17 February 2018 15: 59
        +1
        if you "go" to a neighbor, in the morning the whole village knew.

        And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ... wink Alexander hi No offense? Joke. repeat
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 17 February 2018 20: 31
          0
          Quote: Svarog51
          if you "go" to a neighbor, in the morning the whole village knew.

          And experience is the son of difficult mistakes ... wink Alexander hi No offense? Joke. repeat

          Excellent pinned Sergey! Hello ! fellow
  6. faiver
    faiver 17 February 2018 11: 08
    +3
    don't do it ...
  7. loginovich
    loginovich 17 February 2018 11: 39
    +2
    The engine is under the prodigy: Or it will be like PAK - here we will put a new engine and then ...
    Is it really not clear that no new aircraft can be created without a new engine. This also applies to ground and water equipment.
  8. Dikson
    Dikson 17 February 2018 12: 14
    +3
    This is a circle of young technicians, and not a serious development .. another batch of dust in the eyes and cut money .. I saw this many times - when the same radio-controlled model from the circle of pioneers was taken to exhibitions and fairs, in the hope of finding a stupid customer and making money on a children's designer .. Skolkovo’s business lives and thrives .. LEGO designers can do more .. Chinese toys can do more ..
  9. ancestors from Don
    ancestors from Don 17 February 2018 13: 45
    +1
    For relatively cheap UAVs are the future of attack aircraft. A huge number of brisk, hardly noticeable on air defense radars, they can cause significant damage to the enemy.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 17 February 2018 14: 35
      +1
      the fact of the matter is that this particular product clearly does not promise to be cheap, brisk and inconspicuous .. it is certainly better to lose such an ashtray than to ruin the life of a combat pilot .. but forgive me, I can’t believe that it will come to flying, something- then a really powerful sample ..
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 17 February 2018 16: 34
        +1
        Quote: Dikson
        the fact of the matter is that this particular product clearly does not promise to be cheap,

        Why make a guess. It will appear on "AliExpress", then we will discuss the price.
  10. Dikson
    Dikson 17 February 2018 17: 09
    0
    Lopatov, You know, I’m somehow used to the fact that army equipment differs from duplicated systems from household juicers .. old probably?
  11. Mentat
    Mentat 17 February 2018 19: 17
    0
    Quote: Logall
    Quote: Andrey K
    put fans of "nested dolls" into the category of perverts


    It is not clear why the question of faith is pushed here. Some poem is very artificial, don’t you think so?
    For a black man was convicted, called a sexist. And for atheism in the world, is there any kind of persecution? Quite the contrary, they are stepping up pressure on Christianity.
    Therefore, I consider the poem artificially cobbled together as a cadaver from those who condemn and label.
  12. Falcond
    Falcond 17 February 2018 20: 23
    0
    And somewhere in a parallel universe