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Airbus has calculated the losses incurred under the A400M program

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The curse of the Airbus A400M aircraft again reminded of itself: the Airbus company had to write off 1,299 billion euros by the end of the year according to the program of this transporter, of which a billion and a little fell in the third quarter, reports bmpd with reference to the La Tribune.




At the same time, the company itself noted that they "managed to improve the situation in the field of production and characteristics of the A400M aircraft", and also "managed to revise the contractual obligations to government customers, which should significantly reduce the risks of the program."

“In 2017, Airbus delivered 19 A400M aircraft to customers (compared to 17 aircraft in 2016). The manufacturer must transfer 16 in 2018 and 11 in 2019. The pace of production was revised in order to streamline the level of stocks, while the roadmap of production capacities in the military was changed aviation", - says the material.

Last year, Airbus reportedly held talks with the European Armaments Cooperation Organization (OCCAR), which oversees the A400M project, and primarily with the customer countries, which led to the signing of a declaration of intent in February 2018, which conditions of the contract, including the approval of a new delivery schedule, an updated roadmap of production capabilities and a revised schedule of scheduled maintenance. ”

Meanwhile, a detailed analysis of the program, in which there is an assessment of the financial implications of a change in the delivery schedule, production capacity and repair, was completed in the fourth quarter of 2017. According to the report, last year the company wrote off 1,299 billion euros for losses.

In this regard, the financial director of the concern Harald Wilhelm at the beginning of the year harshly criticized the head of the defense division of Airbus Defense & Space, Dirk Hawk.

He demanded toughening work and said that “starting from 2006 (when 352 million was written off), Airbus regularly includes in its budget the costs of this damn program.”
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 16 February 2018 14: 58
    +3
    So close this program, or is it easier to whine and write off money? fool
    1. svp67
      svp67 16 February 2018 15: 00
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      So close this program, or is it easier to whine and write off money?

      And what to supply to the army instead? Again, go to the Americans to bow ....
      I’m wondering with the An-70 the same story could be? Or rather, the same would be ...
      1. YarGa
        YarGa 16 February 2018 15: 59
        0
        About 10 years ago, in conversations with all-around fans and eternal critics, regarding the transferred documentation, the AN70 (from which the A400 was made) proved that the documentation was distorted. Fish.)))) All laughed from my arguments))) And any facts are rejected. The article obviously proves my version.
        1. svp67
          svp67 16 February 2018 16: 12
          +1
          Quote: YarGa
          argued that the documentation was distorted

          Are you sure this is so? Maybe the "grenades of the wrong system"?
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 17 February 2018 16: 41
          +1
          I’m looking at the “face” of his friend lol Actually, the West often fails to copy niche ideas. Or rather, not when they take the idea and begin to “pull the owl on the globe” of their technologies, then it turns out more or less better than ours. An example is a television, a light bulb (Yablochkova), mobile phones, oil fracturing during oil production. But when they take our entire project, then the BUTTERS are obtained. tongue good The Yak-41 mattresses were stolen - they made the Fu-35 wretched, the An-70s were still fired, and the torpedo missiles still cannot be repeated. laughing
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 16 February 2018 16: 06
        0
        Quote: svp67
        And what to supply to the army instead?

        Another thing is interesting, since when has army orders become unprofitable? Saw the loot, it’s enviable.
        1. svp67
          svp67 16 February 2018 16: 10
          +1
          Quote: Orionvit
          Saw the loot, it’s enviable.

          Envy is SIN
          1. Orionvit
            Orionvit 16 February 2018 16: 15
            0
            Quote: svp67
            Envy is SIN

            Sin, this is to cash in on the problems of their own country, and for them, I would have drank. Yes, there without me mastodons in this matter.
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 16 February 2018 17: 08
              +5
              Quote: Orionvit
              and with them, I would drank. Yes, there without me mastodons in this matter.

              Here our colleague is not going to let us in for a cannon shot. yes
      3. Berkut154
        Berkut154 16 February 2018 16: 09
        +1
        If you do not know, the a-400 was born thanks to the AN-70. Thanks to the twin ...
  2. win
    win 16 February 2018 15: 02
    +5
    Airbus calculates losses ... at year-end 1,299 billion euros

    And if Russia gets angry and imposes sanctions on titanium ...
    European Airbus Concern Airbus Signs Framework Agreement with Russian Titanium Manufacturer
    VSMPO-Avisma on titanium supplies.
    The transaction amount may reach 4 billion dollars.
    VSMPO accounts for about 40% of titanium supplies for Boeing, about 80% for Airbus (including their subcontractors).
    Then ... hoo! - it will not seem a little am
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 February 2018 15: 14
      +4
      Well, here it’s double-edged. VSMPO almost completely works for export. If deliveries are stopped, then production will have to be stopped, or rather cut down to the level of Russian consumption, and people should be driven out into the street. Russia will not be able to issue a replacement load. Moreover, China, too.
      1. just exp
        just exp 16 February 2018 16: 12
        +1
        and, does a lot of people work at VSMPO-Avisma?
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 17 February 2018 16: 45
        0
        Dear why, it is necessary to stop the production of titanium? How much titanium will they put to Watermelon there, and how much we "donated" the USA to treasure, and if you make a feint with your ears and remove from treasure all these 4 billion bucks and buy the same titanium and put it on them him to the State Reserve? good The state reserve stores meat, wheat and many other things, and titanium tea is not meat and cannot foul lol . Let another year lie down, then we can sell our defense industry if we need it sharply.
    2. Professor
      Professor 16 February 2018 15: 21
      +6
      Quote: Siegen
      And if Russia gets angry and imposes sanctions on titanium ...

      In spite mom freezes at the feet

      Quote: Siegen
      European Airbus Concern Airbus Signs Framework Agreement with Russian Titanium Manufacturer
      VSMPO-Avisma on titanium supplies.
      The transaction amount may reach 4 billion dollars.
      VSMPO accounts for about 40% of titanium supplies for Boeing, about 80% for Airbus (including their subcontractors).
      Then ... hoo! - it will not seem a little

      Indeed, it doesn’t seem enough. Bourgeois will increase purchases from those who today have 60 and 20%, respectively (China), and you will fly by $ 4 billion. fellow
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 16 February 2018 21: 22
        +1
        Yes, there will be a typical Ukrainian version. Creating problems for the opposing side for a month is another way of destroying their industry forever.
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 17 February 2018 16: 47
        0
        Oh, how we will experience it, and what’s on the world market is an excess of titanium, oh well. I advise you to recall how in due time for rudeness, China imposed sanctions on Japia in the form of a ban on the supply of rare earths. How did it end then? That's right - a wild squeal and "wet pants" in japia, then - a tearful pleading "to understand and forgive." good
        Moreover, Titan is a very rare and strategic (military) resource, so we don’t have to carry a blizzard here. It’s high time to introduce a ban on the sale of titanium abroad, and the “excesses” of production can simply be stored.
        1. Professor
          Professor 17 February 2018 17: 14
          +1
          Quote: Mih1974
          Oh, how we will experience it, and what’s on the world market is an excess of titanium, oh well. I advise you to recall how in due time for rudeness, China imposed sanctions on Japia in the form of a ban on the supply of rare earths. How did it end then? That's right - a wild squeal and "wet pants" in japia, then - a tearful pleading "to understand and forgive." good
          Moreover, Titan is a very rare and strategic (military) resource, so we don’t have to carry a blizzard here. It’s high time to introduce a ban on the sale of titanium abroad, and the “excesses” of production can simply be stored.

          For those who explain in the tank. No manufacturer is dependent on 100% on raw material suppliers. There is always a "second source" just in case. In this case, 60 and 20%, respectively. Titanium is so rare metal that on my bike there are titanium bushings, spokes and other parts. Stop Russia supplying titanium and ... the Chinese will say thanks.

          Quote: andrewkor
          China drives raw titanium, and Russia forgings and castings for a specific order. Do you understand the difference?

          Do not believe it, but it is the bourgeoisie, and not Russia, who have the most advanced fleet of CNC machines that allows to realize any dream in titanium. And the same bourgeoisie has the technology of casting titanium under high pressure and there is also the technology of 3's dimensional printing of titanium.

          In the CIS countries, the leading place in explored reserves of titanium ores is held by the Russian Federation (58.5%) and Ukraine (40.2%). However, in Russia there are mainly undeveloped deposits, of which titanium concentrate is not produced. The main producer of titanium raw materials (ilmenite, rutile) in the CIS is Ukraine. fellow
          Source: https://mining-media.ru/ru/article/ekonomic/559-p
          erspektivy-osvoeniya-titanovogo-syrya-v-rossii
    3. svp67
      svp67 16 February 2018 16: 04
      +1
      Quote: Siegen
      And if Russia gets angry and imposes sanctions on titanium ...

      No CSOs. If necessary, Westerners will buy titanium in the same China, but a little more expensive, but they will buy it.
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 16 February 2018 20: 08
        0
        China drives raw titanium, and Russia forgings and castings for a specific order. Do you understand the difference?
        1. svp67
          svp67 16 February 2018 20: 31
          +1
          Quote: andrewkor
          China drives raw titanium, and Russia forgings and castings for a specific order. Do you understand the difference?

          Do you think China, if desired, does not master their production?
    4. Alexey Sommer
      Alexey Sommer 16 February 2018 16: 46
      +2
      You can get angry.
      And then what?
      Our aircraft production capacity of our titanium manufacturers can not load now and for a long time will not be able to load.
      Who will pay people at titanium plants zp?)
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 17 February 2018 16: 50
        0
        And how many money did we “give” to the USA? How many years can you buy and store ALL the production of AVISMA for only a tenth of these gifts? fool And titanium is not a sausage, it does not rot, it lies down (even under the open sky), and then it can always be transferred (sold) to your own military-industrial complex.
        Moreover, I advise you to realize that Titan is not copper and not iron, which you read in every country before the fool, it is a very rare metal and we have only one deposit. And what to do when we work it out, and this is not a distant future. negative let's bow to China? To say how many times we will pay more when buying?
        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall 17 February 2018 17: 08
          0
          Quote: Mih1974
          And how many money did we “give” to the USA? How many years can you buy and store ALL the production of AVISMA for only a tenth of these gifts? fool And titanium is not a sausage, it does not rot, it lies down (even under the open sky), and then it can always be transferred (sold) to your own military-industrial complex.
          Moreover, I advise you to realize that Titan is not copper and not iron, which you read in every country before the fool, it is a very rare metal and we have only one deposit. And what to do when we work it out, and this is not a distant future. negative let's bow to China? To say how many times we will pay more when buying?




          Do not share info how much titanium ore Russia is mining? .. and is it mining at all ...
  3. LSA57
    LSA57 16 February 2018 15: 05
    +2
    According to the report, last year the company wrote off 1,299 billion euros for losses.

    rich Pinocchio, such a waste of money
  4. Kars
    Kars 16 February 2018 15: 11
    +4
    They incur losses) but they do not buy AN 70. They support their manufacturer.
    So I want to ask the Maidan what Europe does not help) for which the Maidan was)))
    1. svp67
      svp67 16 February 2018 16: 06
      0
      Quote: Kars
      So I want to ask the Maidan what Europe does not help) for which the Maidan was)))

      It’s a little easier for us in this respect, we can specifically ask you about it ... So, what were you up to and why doesn’t it help?
      1. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 16 February 2018 16: 47
        +1
        Well, how does it not help?)
        See already from Europe writes.)
        1. svp67
          svp67 16 February 2018 16: 52
          0
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          See already from Europe writes.)

          So it helps Europe ..., here at least it is clear what has been achieved.
  5. san4es
    san4es 16 February 2018 15: 50
    0
    The curse of the Airbus A400M reminded itself again:

    ... already twisted a dead loop
    1. Redfox3k
      Redfox3k 16 February 2018 23: 21
      0
      This operator twisted the camera around its axis and gave it a dead loop a400m
  6. andrewkor
    andrewkor 16 February 2018 20: 20
    0
    In 2006 Rosoboronexport signed a contract with China for the supply of 38 IL-76 in the amount of $ 1 billion. The contractor was TAPOiCh. The first to sound the alarm at the loss-making contract were Rybinsk Motor Engineers, then the metallurgists, and the last ones to timidly blurted out of Tashkent. contract. As a result, we have IL-76MD90 from Ulyanovsk, Y-20 from China, and on the former TAPOiCh they will make cars!