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"We will fix everyone who tries to loosen Russia!"

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February 15, in Moscow, in the Cathedral of Christ the Savior passed the first Great Circle of the Russian Cossacks, whose stated goal was to reunite the Cossacks of Russia.


"We will fix everyone who tries to loosen Russia!"Greetings to the participants and guests of the Big Circle were sent by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Ataman of the Taman branch of the Kuban Cossack army, deputy of the Legislative Assembly of the Krasnodar Territory, Hero of the Kuban, Colonel Ivan Bezugly tells about the goals of the Big Circle and the tasks of today's Cossacks.

- What is the main goal you see the main goal of the Great Circle?

- At the moment, the situation is such that some Cossack troops are successfully and dynamically developing, moving forward. At the same time, some other military communities have stalled in their development and are in stagnation. But if you don't move forward, sooner or later you will roll back. We, in the Kuban, have repeatedly discussed the emerging situation, and have come to the conclusion that it is necessary to create a single Russian Cossack army under the leadership of the Supreme Ataman, to approve uniform laws, uniform rules and uniform standards. Of course, while maintaining the existing troops and their historical traditions. To discuss this initiative, a council of atamans of the Cossack troops was convened in Krasnodar. And the idea was supported. The need to coordinate efforts at the all-Russian level, including for those military communities that need it, is obvious. The creation of such a unifying structure will undoubtedly give a new impetus to the development of the revived Cossacks. And the work started by the past Big Circle will continue.

- As you know, the creation of the State Register of Cossack societies caused considerable criticism of the Cossacks - “social activists” who were not included in it, who believed that this led to a split of the Cossacks. How relevant is this problem today, and is the past circle a step towards overcoming it?

- I can say that I have great respect for those who participate in the Cossack movement on a voluntary basis. We ourselves began, as social activists, without any state support. But if we talk about today, the number of Cossack public associations is often exaggerated. As for the Kuban army, here more than 90 percent of the Cossacks are included in the state register. I imagine the situation in other troops, and it is similar. But regardless of the number of societies that are not included in the state register, there are also Cossacks there, and our goal is to achieve unity with them. And the past Great Circle, in which “social activists” also participated, is a serious step in this direction. Although I want to note that there is also the phenomenon of "atamans" who do not represent anyone except themselves, and use their assigned status to realize their personal interests and ambitions. Establishing unity with such "chieftains" will not be easy, and uninteresting.

- The current time is increasingly referred to as prewar. There are conflicts in the near and far abroad, affecting the interests and security of our country. How do these processes affect the life of modern Cossacks?

- All these formidable events not only alarm us, but also inspire us. Growing threats unite and unite us. So, some Cossacks who had previously retired, for a number of reasons, are now returning to Cossack societies, because clouds are gathering over Russia. We know well from history that whenever our country was in a threatening situation, the Cossacks rose up to defend it. And today, many Cossacks of the Taman department have already taken part in protecting the civilian population of Donbass from Bandera gangs, have fought and are fighting terrorists in the Middle East.

Let me remind you that in the Taman Division of the Kuban Cossack Army, the first territorial unit of self-defense in Russia was created - the 1-I Taman Cossack Division, in which the Cossacks of the department hone their military skills, preparing for the defense of the Motherland. Field exercises, command and staff exercises, divisional training are held regularly. First, a regiment was created in the Taman branch, then a brigade, and finally a division, which we hope will soon be deployed to the corps. When Nikolai Aleksandrovich Daluda became the military ataman of the Kuban army, he without fail spread our experience to all the Kuban departments, where territorial regiments were created, capable today of solving any tasks assigned. And now there are field camps. These developments helped us a lot in 2014, in ensuring the security of the Crimean Peninsula during the referendum.

We are ready to share our accumulated experience with other Cossack troops and societies, and I hope that the unification work begun in the Great Circle will help this. I have no doubt that the Cossacks of Russia, as one, will stand up in defense of our country, if necessary, but it is necessary that they all be trained, professional fighters. And in the fighting spirit of the Cossacks, I have no doubt - we saw 70-year old Cossacks fighting in the fighting positions of Donbass, who fought on a par with the youth. The commander in chief can rely on us and rely on the Cossacks. We will never surrender Russia to no one.

- It is no secret that in addition to external threats there are dangerous trends in the internal political life of the country. There are forces that seek to use the presidential election to destabilize the situation. At the same time, they seek to draw the Cossacks into political games ...

- It is not necessary to check the strength of the Cossacks. We, like our grandfathers, firmly stand for the One and Indivisible Russia, and we will not allow anyone to shake the situation. And if someone tries to do this, then we will fix it. For this we have both opportunities and desires. We need a strong Russia with a strong leader at the head.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 16 February 2018 06: 14
    +97
    cool to the mummers ...
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 16 February 2018 06: 36
      +65
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      cool to the mummers ...

      Likewise, the question was always tormented by who assigned the titles to them, where did the awards come from and what did they really do, other than showing off peacocks in public?
      1. 210ox
        210ox 16 February 2018 06: 56
        +11
        Ranks from the army service. And about the peacocks. Well, at one time, remember it was the DND. That's what they do.
        Quote: lis-ik
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        cool to the mummers ...

        Likewise, the question was always tormented by who assigned the titles to them, where did the awards come from and what did they really do, other than showing off peacocks in public?
        1. fa2998
          fa2998 16 February 2018 19: 29
          +22
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: romey
          And how many Cossacks are there?

          Most.

          Who are they? I have 3 grandfathers were Cossacks, but I do not belong to them! Cossacks-LIFESTYLE, HOUSING.
          The Cossacks are not whips, songs and dances. The Cossacks exterminated the city in the 30th of the last century. At first the Cossacks died on the fronts of the WWII, then the Cossacks divided into red and white, exterminated each other, and then the victorious Reds completely “talked out” the villages, collective farms arranged. And now, from nowhere, taking up others will "correct". angry hi
          1. Stephen
            Stephen 16 February 2018 20: 20
            +11
            Well, dear, dear, you gathered everything together. And whips, and collective farms, and civil ... The conclusion is interesting as a conclusion. In short, there are no Cossacks. Here, they say, I have 3 grandfathers were Cossacks, but I do not relate to them. Ma la dez! Eagle. No honor, no race, no Homeland, no concepts. The erratic goal. And I am a tribal Cossack. And my family has not gone anywhere. And I did not go away. But I am a free Cossack. Yes, I am managing. BUT Cossacks are also a service that has always been inseparable from free life. Without service, there are no Cossacks. I served. The fact that the chieftain is yelling, so he is ordered, is served under the king. And we, ordinary Cossacks, will see where our bayonets turn. So you do not talk too much there, there are no Cossacks, a renegade.
            1. Dedall
              Dedall 16 February 2018 20: 54
              +43
              Respected Stephen, I live in the city of Novocherkassk, and I see nothing but laughter, looking at the mumbled jesters sitting on dirty horses. And if you start writing in response to a comment about the existence of special honor and dignity among a Cossack clan tribe, then remember that it was the Cossacks who marauded the corpse of the deceased Nesterov. Yes, the same Kaledin, whom they are trying to excel, they surrendered to the Bolsheviks.
              If we talk about military-patriotic things, then neither in Novocherkassk, nor in the surrounding villages, I saw a shooting range for sports shooting. Anyway, this sport is absent, as a class, on Cossack lands. Although here God himself ordered to have a bunch of super shootings here.
              In a question with equestrians? My daughter and my girlfriends were engaged in horse riding in the stable, which was with the Cossack squad of the village of Krivyanskaya. So only they looked after the horses. And not a single local boy was with them. What do you call it?
              In short, pea jesters who serve as extras to someone who leads their game out of economic or political interest. And none of them wants a real revival of the Cossacks, like the troops of professional mercenaries capable of protecting the interests of Russia on the border and beyond.
              1. Alber
                Alber 16 February 2018 21: 55
                +2
                Quote: Dedall
                Respected Stephen, I live in the city of Novocherkassk, and I see nothing but laughter, looking at the mumbled jesters sitting on dirty horses. And if you start writing in response to a comment about the existence of special honor and dignity among a Cossack clan tribe, then remember that it was the Cossacks who marauded the corpse of the deceased Nesterov. Yes, the same Kaledin, whom they are trying to excel, they surrendered to the Bolsheviks.
                If we talk about military-patriotic things, then neither in Novocherkassk, nor in the surrounding villages, I saw a shooting range for sports shooting. Anyway, this sport is absent, as a class, on Cossack lands. Although here God himself ordered to have a bunch of super shootings here.
                In a question with equestrians? My daughter and my girlfriends were engaged in horse riding in the stable, which was with the Cossack squad of the village of Krivyanskaya. So only they looked after the horses. And not a single local boy was with them. What do you call it?
                In short, pea jesters who serve as extras to someone who leads their game out of economic or political interest. And none of them wants a real revival of the Cossacks, like the troops of professional mercenaries capable of protecting the interests of Russia on the border and beyond.

                Kremlin Zionists Cossacks across the throat ...
              2. RUSS
                RUSS 17 February 2018 08: 36
                +1
                Quote: Dedall
                My daughter and my girlfriends were engaged in horse riding in the stable, which was with the Cossack squad of the village of Krivyanskaya. So only they looked after the horses. And not a single local boy was with them. What do you call it?

                So, and who should look after them? Love to ride love and wash the horse laughing , well, the fact that there are no guys with them, as you say, is it normal that if you live in the Kuban or the Don, then all the guys should do horse riding all over?
              3. dropout
                dropout 18 February 2018 20: 02
                +3
                Quote: Dedall
                I see nothing but laughter, looking at the mumbled jesters sitting on dirty horses.

                This is an operetta. Cossacks Moscow, St. Petersburg and even Vologda and Kirov (Jumps). At the bottom, comedy-puff and the sovereign manage to cut coupons. am
              4. Stanislas
                Stanislas 8 March 2018 18: 23
                0
                Quote: Dedall
                the revival of the Cossacks as the troops of professional mercenaries capable of protecting the interests of Russia on the border and beyond
                One thing is not clear to me: why should this not be about the development of the MTR and the Border Troops of the Russian Federation, but about special ethno-territorial armed groups? Do you want to divide the entire border of the Russian Federation into Cossacks and non-Cossacks, endowing the former with special inherited rights of the armed class over the latter, such as nonresident? I do not understand.
            2. LASVEGAS
              LASVEGAS 17 February 2018 00: 41
              +4
              "Bayonets" also from the grandfathers left? :)
            3. a housewife
              a housewife 17 February 2018 01: 59
              +7
              I wonder how - in the 30s the Cossacks were destroyed! And where did the Cossack units in the Great Patriotic War come from ?! Have flown from the sky ?! I don’t know what kind of grandfathers the Cossacks had, but don’t bother ours! The mummers are not mummers; it’s not his business! Cossacks were and will be.
            4. c3r
              c3r 17 February 2018 05: 25
              +1
              Bayonets always turn in one direction. Towards a moving enemy. This applies to Cossacks and non-Cossacks.
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 16 February 2018 20: 59
          +6
          Quote: 210ox
          Ranks from the army service. And about the peacocks. Well, at one time, remember it was the DND. That's what they do.
          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          cool to the mummers ...

          Likewise, the question was always tormented by who assigned the titles to them, where did the awards come from and what did they really do, other than showing off peacocks in public?

          Well, if with the army there are as many “regiments” as there is not in any army in the world, except that of the Latins (who are not written).
        3. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 17 February 2018 07: 46
          +16
          We will correct everyone who tries to undermine Russia

          It was already like that. They corrected themselves.
          In those days, the overwhelming majority of Cossacks chose the wrong side - they went against the People. Based on the results of this choice, they can’t come back to this day. But, it was their choice, and people remember.

          In 1919, the so-called "drafting directive". Only a small part of the Cossacks supported the Soviet regime by joining the ranks of the Red Army, which no longer played a role in the rehabilitation of the Cossacks. And, in the 1991 year, after the collapse of the USSR, the Cossacks were recognized as repressed.
          Standard situation: the new government - the restoration of the old order. And so, there are already conversations at the level of individuals denounced by the authorities about the monarchy, in all seriousness - about the new aristocracy, and the nobility.
          Well, let them try. Then the events of a hundred years ago are guaranteed to be repeated. The laws of the cyclical development of history have not been canceled. Too many parallels and analogies.

          In fact, the Cossacks are a serious force that, if organized at the state level, it will be ready to repeat its exploits of suppressing popular unrest. After all, the slogan "For the Tsar and the Fatherland!" quickly remember. Moreover, the "king", for the first time in a hundred years, adopted the law "On Cossacks." There is a law, this is the main thing, and the rest of the "moments favorable to the tsar", the State Duma will drag through amendments, if necessary.
          The “tsar" now has a crisis of loyalty to his court, and so he is seeking, through the "new nobility", the possibility of replenishing loyal cadres.
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 17 February 2018 11: 09
            +9
            The Cossacks, as a military estate that held the borders of Russia, were relevant precisely then and precisely for this. It developed well, carrying out public service under the kings-importers. Their service was in demand.
            Now the system of military and state security is different, and the Cossacks already need a state to preserve and develop their identity.
            But, the state has not yet been in a hurry to give this estate serious powers, only by legalizing in the Federal Law of December 5 2005 No. 154-Federal Law "On the Civil Service of the Russian Cossacks," status, and legally authorizing it to be used as an auxiliary force.
            Well, if you give the Cossacks a status similar to the federal service, but with equipment and weapons, then it will be possible to seriously discuss here. Now it is not a system, there is no structure, specific goals and objectives.
            The article says that the supreme turned his attention to the Cossack gathering, and this is a sign that there will be a continuation.
            God forbid, the Cossacks will take into account historical errors and make the right decision when they have to choose.
            1. Pax tecum
              Pax tecum 17 February 2018 11: 26
              +6
              But at the same time, it is also true that the Cossacks are a kind of buffer force to deter the “Caucasian Russians”, who are not at all happy to see in other parts of the country, and even more so who are ready to expand their living space at the expense of Russian lands.
              The current liberals in power-
              absolute enemies of the Russian peoplego for everything to weaken and dilute Russian self-identity.
              This is very noticeable from the realization that socialism is a purely Russian phenomenon (without exaggeration!), and liberalism, globalism - Basurm.
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          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 16 February 2018 11: 43
            +17
            Quote: captain
            And those Kuban Cossacks for you x ... the dogs that kept the Crimean isthmus until the approach of our special forces? Oooo descendants of the form and Trotsky.

            Dear Yuri, these Russophobes staged genocide Cossacks, and they themselves were incapable of fulfilling their functions of protecting and saving the Russian lands and the Russian people. about
            Russian Chechnya together with the "Red Highlanders" was cut out a hundred years ago, they themselves do not live there, run away and only know how to moan about the comers.
            1920, telegram from Chechnya: "Chechens are EXTREMELY GLAD to transfer them stanitsa lands "
            24 January- Memorial Day for the victims of the Cossacks genocide.
            March 27- Memorial Day for the victims of the genocide of the Terek Cossack Army

            Cossacks of Russiaglory and respect!
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 16 February 2018 14: 32
              +7
              Quote: Olgovich
              1920, telegram from Chechnya: "Chechens are EXTREMELY GLAD to be transferred to them the stanitsa lands"


              Continued Naursky and Shelkovsky regions were donated by the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic in 1957 by Nikita Khrushchev
            2. Sanya Terek
              Sanya Terek 17 February 2018 13: 23
              +16
              Quote: Olgovich
              They cut Russian Chechnya together with the "Red Highlanders" a hundred years ago

              Was Russian Chechnya cut out a hundred years ago?
              No need to cheat. Russian Chechnya was slaughtered with the advent of "fighters against the bloody communist regime."
              “Take as much sovereignty as you can swallow,” the EBN announced in 1990, giving the go-ahead to the national suburbs.
              Almost immediately, Chechnya announced its secession from Russia and began to turn into a gangster enclave. And a considerable role, in this transformation, was played by "fighters against the communist empire." For example, the infamous Shamil Basayev, then still a student at the Moscow Institute of Land Management, on August 19, 1991, was one of the first to defend the EBN at the barricaded White House. At the call of his heart, he came there with a bag full of pomegranates covered with loaves of bread.
              In 1989, according to the census, 372 Russians lived in Checheno-Ingushetia.
              In April 2006, money was distributed to Easter parishioners of the Russian Church of Grozny and Russians living in rural areas. For a thousand rubles each. And if we look at the money distributed, then in Grozny 730 people received them, and in the countryside a little more than 500. More than sure that everyone who was only able to walk came to get money that they, old people, forced to live for pennies, were most welcome. And even if we assume that someone (quite old or immobilized) could not come, it is unlikely that the number of the entire Russian population is much different.
              Who is to blame for the disappearance from Chechnya of more than 370 thousand Russians? Communists? Compare the number of Russian-speaking population living under the "bloody" communist regime and remaining in conditions of a victorious democracy.
            3. Old warrior
              Old warrior 19 February 2018 11: 32
              0
              First, earn fame and respect.
          2. lwxx
            lwxx 16 February 2018 14: 12
            +13
            Proverb Cossack. In it, the whole essence of how real relate to the mummers. Have you completely tried to read the post? And notice how people relate, even here on the site, to the Cossacks. Yes, the real ones go about their business, quietly without screaming. And that shushara with St. George's crosses, which he did not give them, and shoulder straps with two gaps, causes people only irony, and that at best. And yes descendants of the form and Trotsky. Do you love Trotsky so much, or so a typo?
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 16 February 2018 14: 35
              +3
              Quote: lwxx
              And that shushara with St. George's crosses that he did not give them

              Cossacks have rewards similar to St. George's crosses, but they are not.
              Present better to the militia of the LPR and the DPR who wear the George Crosses.
        2. Stephen
          Stephen 16 February 2018 20: 23
          +3
          Duck custom yong. Served by the king. Throat. And we will see who to follow. And then others want to make hirelings from the Cossacks, like an entot gorlopan.
      3. kalibr
        kalibr 17 February 2018 07: 29
        +4
        Remember ... in the 90 years, all (from above) suddenly started talking about the "collegiality of the Russian people." Cathedral, Cathedral, the Cathedral will save us ... The "movement" has begun. But in 2000 it somehow became quiet ... A new trend has begun - the zemstvo! Zemstvo, zemstvo ... Also, there was some kind of congress ... In 2005, my graduate student defended herself in zemstvo - "So important!" But then something "dvizhuha" has extinguished. And who now remembers this? And now a new “trend” started - Cossacks, Cossacks, Cossacks ... then the “top” will get tired of subsidizing the mummers, and the next “movement” will degenerate into a bunch of “reenactors”. Another time now, another ...
    2. Evil543
      Evil543 16 February 2018 08: 47
      +11
      They say there are Kuban, but there are Kubanoids.
    3. captain
      captain 16 February 2018 10: 28
      +11
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      cool to the mummers ...

      Well, for you, red-flagged, Cossacks have always been enemies. However, even before our commandos entered Crimea, the Kuban Cossacks kept the isthmus. They participated in the blocking of military units. And he died during the capture of one of the units of the Cossack from the Volgograd region. The communists only handed out Russian land, but there was no desire to win it back from them. You and your like do not give a damn about Russian people and lands your brother gave to anyone, but not Russian.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 February 2018 11: 35
        +15
        Quote: captain
        The communists only handed out Russian land, but there was no desire to win it back from them.
        what is it written ??? belay
      2. Stephen
        Stephen 16 February 2018 20: 30
        +3
        Wow. Your untruth is here. And the capitalists ousted people from sitting around, just holding on. It’s certainly not for you to collect land))). And not all Cossacks were Russian, if you know the story of how the Cossacks were formed. Melekhov, for example, from the Quiet Don is one (ONE!) Of the characteristic types of Cossacks. And if you dig, what kind of Russians are he in a distant family? Purely Turkic features. And if we talk about Tartaria, then many Cossacks were killed there in due time. So what did not grind, Emelya, if you do not know the week.
        1. Sma11
          Sma11 16 February 2018 21: 19
          +12
          Respected. Why distort the Russian language? To show your cossack?
    4. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 11: 38
      +11
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      cool to the mummers ...

      In Russia, there are registered Cossacks, and let’s say the rest, so these “others” are, in large numbers, mummers.
      And do you know that there are Cossack units in the Russian army? Moreover, these are parts of the Ministry of Defense.
      Also now, Cossacks guard borders with border guards. "In 2017, together with the FSB border service, Cossack troops will begin to guard the state border in the Far East and in the European part of Russia. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has already given the corresponding order."
      In Russia, there are a number of Cossack cadet corps and they are among the leaders among similar schools, among others
      So, leave the stamps of the 90s about mummers Cossacks ....
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 16 February 2018 12: 00
        +6
        Modernity:
        Military unit 54801 is the 247th Guards Airborne Assault Caucasus Cossack Regiment, Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation. Military unit 54801 - combat. It is deployed in the city of Stavropol.
        7th Separate Tank Guards Cossack Brigade Chebarkul.
        23rd separate motorized rifle Cossack brigade of Volgograd.
        205th separate motorized rifle Cossack brigade of Budenovsk.
        Etc.....
        1. Romey
          Romey 16 February 2018 16: 42
          +4
          And how many Cossacks are there?
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 16 February 2018 17: 14
            +2
            Quote: romey
            And how many Cossacks are there?

            Most.
            1. Romey
              Romey 16 February 2018 19: 40
              +5
              And by what criteria is a Cossack or not a Cossack evaluated? Who in general has the right to be called a Cossack and has the right to serve in the so-called. Cossack units?
          2. dauria
            dauria 16 February 2018 19: 34
            +16
            And how many Cossacks are there?


            And how do they differ from ordinary Ivanov from Kirov or Mukhametdinov from Kazan? They added to the evil divisions of nations and religions this “Cossack” as well. Soon there will be a motorized rifle regiment of hairdressers, a division of milling and a company of designers ..
            There is a position and title in the army - and that's all that the Life Guards have to invent.
      2. Stephen
        Stephen 16 February 2018 20: 37
        +6
        And you're wrong, brother. I am not a registry, I am a generic free Cossack. Free and all tuta. Generic. He conquered his 20 years. And now I don’t want to serve morons. To the gorlopans, who are under the tsar’s favor and are ready to spread rot, they are suffocating from different rich people. To throats who don’t give away lands, but sell everything that’s grandmother’s on them, and when everything is sold, it will turn to the lands, remember my word. I wear Cossack clothes, there are uniforms, one might say, samples. With a horse it’s convenient. Yes, and a tribute to his family, traditions, memory .... So it turns out in your opinion, do I mean mum? So what?
        1. Romey
          Romey 16 February 2018 20: 56
          +2
          Brother! No need to understand me too literally. I'll put it on too. On family holidays. Without epaulettes and medals, real ones that are appropriate on the front tunic in the closet.
    5. Lexus
      Lexus 16 February 2018 11: 53
      +6
      The circus left, but the clowns remained

      Apparently, it is said about these. In the 90s, the most worthless "retirees" just to the Cossacks and "hit."
    6. Deck
      Deck 16 February 2018 13: 07
      +4
      In general, it is not clear why these representatives of national minorities climb into the army and police. Imagine an Azerbaijani or Tuvan patrol on the streets of Russian cities
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 16 February 2018 13: 20
        +5
        Quote: Deck
        In general, it is not clear why these representatives of national minorities climb into the army and police. Imagine an Azerbaijani or Tuvan patrol on the streets of Russian cities

        Why talk such a game? Just to blurt out? Since when are the Cossacks a national minority? Drive!
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 16 February 2018 14: 15
          +5
          those who "drive" and there are stupid people ... you see the Cossacks they are not those ... mummers ...
          it is in this wild malice on their own - the Slavs of the Orthodox that is the main misfortune of the Russian people, as a single nation ...
          minorities do not allow themselves this ... they stand for each other a mountain ... and we? ...
          we, the Slavs, have a brother on a brother with a pitchfork ... so easily ...
          probably, when we descend from hundreds of millions to a couple of people, then maybe it’s wiser ... if only it weren’t too late ...
      2. Stephen
        Stephen 16 February 2018 20: 38
        +2
        Doo-o-cancer, however!
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 16 February 2018 14: 47
      +11
      Dressed up bravo! And how much is the Cossack epaulettes and lashes now? belay
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 16 February 2018 15: 15
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        Dressed up bravo! And how much is the Cossack epaulettes and lashes now? belay

        Scourge of the shepherds and the Bolsheviks with which they drove the peasants into collective farms, and the Cossacks whip!
        1. Ayratelinsion
          Ayratelinsion 23 February 2018 12: 27
          +1
          Yeah, yeah. And nostrils in tobacco, and lads harnessed, and horses drunk ...
      2. woron333444
        woron333444 16 February 2018 15: 29
        +2
        siberalt
        As I understand it, you are from Altai. Tell your Cossacks this in person. And the next day put your picture on the site. It will be very interesting to look at her. And then the hero hid on the Internet.
        1. dauria
          dauria 16 February 2018 19: 48
          +10
          Tell your Cossacks this in person.


          Thu, passions -mordasti. You would come to dances in Molitovka and say that you are from Taganka. wassat Without any “Cossacks,” the head will be broken. And the Cossacks are piled to the heap. Just like that, out of interest.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 16 February 2018 20: 55
            0
            Quote: dauria
            Tell your Cossacks this in person.


            Thu, passions -mordasti. You would come to dances in Molitovka and say that you are from Taganka. wassat Without any “Cossacks,” the head will be broken. And the Cossacks are piled to the heap. Just like that, out of interest.

            I know one Taganka in Moscow, not near Molitovka. And what is real, such inter-district passions are boiling somewhere?
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 17 February 2018 04: 18
          +7
          Cossacks appeared in Altai only under Yeltsin. We don’t like mummers. laughing
      3. 406ppm2gv
        406ppm2gv 18 February 2018 20: 43
        0
        for me there was a clearing not far from Novocherkassk, but somehow I didn’t get ready.
    8. polkovnik manuch
      polkovnik manuch 17 February 2018 11: 32
      +1
      And you go to them ask what, how and why! And the Cossacks simply do not give ranks and awards. Now, on the same Kuban, they almost completely replaced the patrol service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and they give a lot of help to other law enforcement agencies, including border guards, and drug control.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 17 February 2018 12: 23
        +5
        Quote: polkovnik manuch
        Now, on the same Kuban, they have almost completely replaced the patrol guard service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and they are providing great help to other security agencies, including border guards, and drug control.

        who then works in production, on earth? Asians? Or do the functions listed by you replace civil work, or are state structures so weak that they cannot work without such support from pants?
    9. Nitarius
      Nitarius 17 February 2018 19: 38
      0
      but in vain ..... better read fairy tales .. GUSSY swans will help you)))
  2. SHURUM -BURUM
    SHURUM -BURUM 16 February 2018 06: 26
    +10
    Interestingly, what is the percentage of people in various military and paramilitary epaulettes epaulets in relation to the adult civilian population? But they will vote clearly, for whom.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 16 February 2018 08: 36
      +11
      Quote: SHURUM-BURUM
      But they will vote clearly, for whom.

      laughing Does it bother you much?
    2. polkovnik manuch
      polkovnik manuch 17 February 2018 11: 38
      +1
      We’ll go right to vote for him, because now there is simply no alternative to GDP in Russia, and leaving the country to some of the current applicants means that in a couple of three years even the geographical concept of Russia may disappear. "Shift workers" and "effective managers" all s..n from the "fifth column" are just waiting for this!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 17 February 2018 12: 26
        +4
        Quote: polkovnik manuch
        We’ll go right to vote for him, because now there is simply no alternative to GDP in Russia

        so it will not be in 2014. What will you scream then? Or will you look into the old man’s mouth that he’ll whisper about his superior? And then you will obediently fulfill his will? Why then do you need a head? Why then the election? Won Kadyrov has already proposed an eternal reign, agree?
  3. mole
    mole 16 February 2018 06: 27
    +17
    A relic of the past. Only blah, blah, blah, but "love" to scream!
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 16 February 2018 07: 59
      +20
      blah blah blah blazes out of you ... like slops ...
      these "survivals" from the Don, Kuban and Terek hundreds fought in the Donbass, when such "smart and modern" in the clavs, here in the VO, earned their own titles ...
      near the nephew died near Lugansk ... from the Cossacks ...
      in the Stavropol Territory now, only Terek Cossacks oppose the seizure of land by the Dagestanis ... the rest are either bought or intimidated ...
      about their ranks .... look at yours here first ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 16 February 2018 08: 36
        +11
        Quote: kepmor
        when such "smart and modern" in the clavs, here in VO, earned their own titles ...

        there were only Cossacks ?!
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 16 February 2018 11: 20
          +5
          so we are not talking about "vacationers", but about volunteers ... among them it was the Cossacks who were the majority ...
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 16 February 2018 23: 03
            +3
            Quote: kepmor
            and about volunteers

            can you give statistics?
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 16 February 2018 08: 49
        +31
        I am embarrassed to ask: do the Dagestanis squeeze the land? Are large agricultural holdings doing this with Tkachev’s filing?
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 16 February 2018 11: 17
          +3
          and you ask residents of the Neftekumsk and Kursk districts of Stavropol ... who, when and why .... and who protects them ...
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 16 February 2018 16: 59
            +2
            And what is the entire stavropol region of these areas only consists of?
      3. Curious
        Curious 16 February 2018 13: 34
        +7
        "... these" survivals "from the Don, Kuban and Terek hundreds fought in the Donbass ..."
        Here on the website in the section "Analytics" today is an article about PMCs, it is written in black and white that everyone who participated and is participating in hostilities privately is criminal mercenaries whose fate the state is not interested in.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 11: 45
      +8
      Quote: Mole
      A relic of the past. Only blah, blah, blah, but "love" to scream!

      And those Cossacks who fought in Yugoslavia, Transnistria, Abkhazia, Chechnya, Donbass, too, a relic? Yes, they wear the form of a Cossack and that they are dressed up? For example, in the LNR there is a separate Cossack motorized rifle regiment named after Ataman Platov, are the fighters in their uniforms also mummed?
      Or are the Cossacks at the parade in Moscow in 1945, too, mummers? You say, and others like you, that this is a relic? That there are no Cossacks after the Civil? And for example, about the attack in Kushchevskaya, do you know something?
      1. Romey
        Romey 16 February 2018 19: 56
        +8
        But tell us who Babai is? Remember such a colorful character with a beard and a hat? Which at the first serious pressure of the ukrovermaht drapanula from Kramatorsk and exposed the Strelka flank ... Well, those whom you mentioned here are quite worthy of respect, but why should they be called Cossacks? It’s not a question if they were really such, AB Brain for example. There are only 48 thousand of us left, scattered throughout the country, and from them it is unlikely that you will form a full-fledged brigade. Do you know your ancestors? Were they Cossacks? If not, then were they really such unworthy people that it was imperative to deny them in such a bad way? I doubt it! If we talk about military valor. then the Russian infantry is the best infantry in the world! Why do you need all this, I absolutely do not understand and most likely I do not understand.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 16 February 2018 22: 11
          0
          Quote: romey
          Tell us who Babai is.

          There was such a person in the Donbass for his colorful appearance, his journalists loved him, but in fact he is nobody, he does not have any relation to the Cossacks, but why he wore a hat is a question for him.
      2. mole
        mole 16 February 2018 20: 55
        +13
        Quote: RUSS

        Or are the Cossacks at the parade in Moscow in 1945, too, mummers? You say, and others like you, that this is a relic? That there are no Cossacks after the Civil?

        Without the Cossacks on Red Square, the Parade would take place. Anyway! I was sure of this that I would hear this argument.
        And for example, about the attack in Kushchevskaya, do you know something?

        I will not prove, I personally did not participate. But in general, any feat - about ... white command!
        But I never heard of the Army from the Cossacks! About divisions - yes! Heroes without sarcasm, in the literal sense. But there were like Romanians.
        And those Cossacks who fought in Yugoslavia, Transnistria, Abkhazia, Chechnya, Donbass, too, a relic? Yes, they wear the form of a Cossack and that they are dressed up? For example, in the LNR there is a separate Cossack motorized rifle regiment named after Ataman Platov, are the fighters in their uniforms also mummed?

        How many Cossacks, of those who fought, studied military affairs in the Airborne Forces, Air Forces, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other units, and how many were not Cossacks? And I did not say anything about the mummers. Everyone that he wants, even wears it.

        About any !!!!
        I wouldn’t see it personally, I wouldn’t write like that!

        P.S. You are the king prosal.
        And at the present time, you knock out subsidies or beg for it, or beg for support of being. Without payment or PiaRa with cameras, the Cossacks do not participate anywhere, and if they suddenly participate, then pour it, and if it poured, then it starts ANYWHERE! It does not matter whether or not Registered. But the epaulettes and badges catch a lot!
        Nothing personal. Pure view from the side.
  4. Adjutant
    Adjutant 16 February 2018 06: 33
    +21
    Former sexots and officials changed clothes
    Cossacks destroyed, once
    Newfangled Games
    1. captain
      captain 16 February 2018 10: 33
      +8
      Quote: Adjutant
      Former sexots and officials changed clothes
      Cossacks destroyed, once
      Newfangled Games

      And who destroyed? Do not be afraid to call? What party arranged this matter and who stood at the origins of this destruction?
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 16 February 2018 11: 29
        +10
        "Communists of God chosen" from the sealed car, led by Trotsky ....
        1. Sanya Terek
          Sanya Terek 17 February 2018 15: 36
          +3
          Quote: kepmor
          "Communists of God chosen" from the sealed car, led by Trotsky ....

          But what about those killed who fought in World War II as part of Cossack units and formations?
          6th Kuban-Terek Cossack Red Banner Division S.M. K. E. Voroshilova, 94th Stavropol Cossack Cavalry Division. M.F. Blinova entered the battle from the first minutes of the war.
          In total, during the war years, more than 70 combat units were formed from the Cossacks. In the formation of cavalry divisions took part not only the Cossacks of the Don, Kuban and Terek, but also the Urals, Transbaikalia and the Far East. The Ural Military District gave over 10 such divisions, their basis being the Ural and Orenburg Cossacks. 7 cavalry divisions were formed in Transbaikalia and the Far East. A large part of their personnel was represented by the Transbaikal, Amur and Ussuri Cossacks.
          As the Cossacks fought, the lines of the letter found in the satchel of the German soldier Alfred Kurtz, who was killed under the Shkurinskaya’s village, testify: “Everything I heard about the Cossacks during the war of the fourteenth year pales before the horrors that we experience when we meet with the Cossacks now. One memory of "It terrifies the Cossack attack and makes it tremble. At night I hallucinate with the Cossacks. Cossacks are some kind of whirlwind that sweeps all obstacles and barriers in our path. We are afraid of the Cossacks as the retribution of the Almighty."
          How the Cossacks responded to the call to fight for a free Cossack, one of the fighters against communism - P.N. Krasnov can be judged by his own records of 1942: "the Cossacks did not rebel against the Jewish authorities, they rushed into a crazy attack on German machine guns, they died for" Stalin's father "and for their own, popular, Soviet power."
          At the end of the war in the Red Army, there were 2 Guards Cossack Cavalry Corps - the 4th Guards Cavalry Kuban Cossack Corps and the 5th Guards Cavalry Don Cossack Corps, the 9th Plastun Rifle Krasnodar Red Banner, the Order of the Red Star Division.
          But, of course, the Cossacks fought not only in Cossack formations. Thousands of Cossacks served in the infantry, artillery, tank troops, aviation and navy.
      2. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 16 February 2018 11: 49
        +20
        Quote: captain
        Quote: Adjutant
        Former sexots and officials changed clothes
        Cossacks destroyed, once
        Newfangled Games

        And who destroyed? Do not be afraid to call? What party arranged this matter and who stood at the origins of this destruction?

        I will say which one. Communist Party of the USSR.
        But now you specify which destroyed and which Cossacks you belong to, if so then vote about the "destruction"? lol
        These hated communists who fought in the armies of you?

        Or these?

        So what are you crucifying for here? lol
        I have all the relatives from the Cossacks from the Kuban, but I do not boast of this and do not participate in booths. And by the way, my relatives somehow lived up to your perestroika times without “annihilation,” to which I am a witness.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 11: 47
      +2
      Quote: Adjutant
      Former sexots and officials changed clothes
      Cossacks destroyed, once
      Newfangled Games

      The Cossack is not a nation, the Cossacks had both Muslims and Buddhists, they could accept nonresidents as well. So it’s not necessary to look for Cossack roots in all of today's Cossacks.
      Who just didn’t run to Don later becoming a Cossack ....
      1. Deck
        Deck 16 February 2018 13: 12
        +10
        Under the king, it was an estate. There are no estates in Russia now. Is this an ethnographic circle? Reconstructors?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 16 February 2018 13: 21
          +2
          Quote: Deck
          Under the king, it was an estate. There are no estates in Russia now. Is this an ethnographic circle? Reconstructors?

          Read the legislation of the Russian Federation on the Cossacks.
        2. polkovnik manuch
          polkovnik manuch 17 February 2018 11: 45
          +1
          Already in the 2000s, the Cossacks established themselves as full-fledged defenders of Russian lands! So it was, it is and it will be so! It would not hurt you, the sofa rector from the ethnographic circle, to know from this, or at least read the History of the Fatherland at your leisure!
    3. Olgovich
      Olgovich 16 February 2018 11: 56
      +7
      Quote: Adjutant
      Former sexots and officials changed clothes

      Cossacks are already fighting 28 years-In Ossetia, in Chechnya, Transnistria, Donbass, wherever the protection of Russian people is needed.
      Many dead, many heroes.
      They are not here?
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 16 February 2018 07: 13
    +16
    Let them be “mummers”, but in the Cossacks there is a better alternative to the liberal idea. I respect those who have sunk into history, and those who have been to Crimea and the Donbass.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 13: 47
      +1
      Quote: samarin1969
      Let them be “mummers”, but in the Cossacks there is a better alternative to the liberal idea. I respect those who have sunk into history, and those who have been to Crimea and the Donbass.

      In Russia, the liberal idea is dead and not popular.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 16 February 2018 23: 35
      +4
      Quote: samarin1969
      in Cossacks there is a better alternative to the liberal idea.

      Duc, definitely. If it’s very simplistic - here it is, the very choice between the religious procession and the gay parade. Being a convinced atheist, nevertheless, I will prefer the first option, because the abstract religious procession, at least, does not carry “shameful diseases”.
      Quote: samarin1969
      I respect those who have sunk into history, and those who have been to Crimea and the Donbass.

      Yes, liberoids in the trenches certainly do not exist.
  6. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 16 February 2018 07: 33
    +21
    Quote: 210ox
    Ranks from the army service. And about the peacocks. Well, at one time, remember it was the DND. That's what they do.
    Quote: lis-ik
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    cool to the mummers ...

    Likewise, the question was always tormented by who assigned the titles to them, where did the awards come from and what did they really do, other than showing off peacocks in public?

    If the army. I know one kozaken. He was a corporal on an emergency, then bam, already in uniform of a centurion. Like an officer in his own eyes. Constantly pleaded for a scale. Clown.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 16 February 2018 08: 28
      +16
      I know one kozaken. On the urgent was corporal
      ... Similarly. I also remember the army ensign, he shot cigarettes, now the centurion, "shoots" as before ...
  7. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 February 2018 08: 35
    +20
    The first Big Circle of the Russian Cossacks passed
    99% dressed up with brass crosses and obscure titles
  8. tasha
    tasha 16 February 2018 08: 46
    +10
    Modern Cossacks may become one of the pillars of the state, subject to complete re-certification and disposal of the so-called "mummers".
    1. uskrabut
      uskrabut 16 February 2018 09: 08
      +3
      Only there should be a clear and unambiguous legal interpretation of the term Cossacks, indicating their rights, obligations, sources of financing.
      1. tasha
        tasha 16 February 2018 09: 43
        +5
        And this term is spelled out in the law 154-FZ
        "Cossack society - a voluntary association of citizens of the Russian Federation in the form of a non-profit organization, formed in accordance with federal law, included in the state register of Cossack societies in the Russian Federation and whose members, in the prescribed manner, have undertaken obligations to perform public or other services;"

        Only the obligations of the participants should be spelled out more strictly. And Charters ...
    2. Romey
      Romey 16 February 2018 09: 57
      +8
      Quote: tasha
      Modern Cossacks may become one of the pillars of the state, subject to complete re-certification and disposal of the so-called "mummers".

      No need to re-certify me ... laughing Actually, the Cossack is an ethnic concept, about an ethnic group or sub-ethnic group, let science understand. In order to be a Cossack you need to fulfill two fairly modest conditions. 1. To be born to them. 2. To know and honor their ancestors, the village, the army to respect the past. And there is no need for any recertification or other "services". For this there is an army, police, etc.
      1. tasha
        tasha 16 February 2018 10: 04
        +4
        Cossack ethnic concept

        Strongly disagree with you. They are discussing this for a long time and for a long time, so let's not start, huh?
        In order for the Cossacks to become just one of the pillars of the state, there can be no question of any “1. To be born to them”.
        The father is a Cossack, gave birth to a son, raised .. At some point, the son passes certification, an exam, an initiation rite, and he is accepted into the Cossacks. The only way.
        1. Romey
          Romey 16 February 2018 10: 16
          +17
          Sorry, but why should the Cossacks be the core? So that they again label us dogs of the regime? I don’t understand what is the problem? If you want to serve - go to the army, to the police, the Ministry of Emergencies at last, and you will be happy without any initiation and entry like shit. Yes and no Cossacks, what they were 100 years ago. And no, a long time ago. In total, according to the census of 10 years, 48 ​​thousand people of both sexes remained. Do not consider the Cossacks an ethnic group? So we do not insist on health, because there is no need. There will be only one wish: to stop discrediting our name with all sorts of crazy ideas, inventing services and not hinder the emergence of national-cultural autonomies in places where Cossacks are indigenous, under the guise of fighting against some sort of “separatism” there. And then they will find one and a half crazy and begin to arrange a tantrum.
          1. tasha
            tasha 16 February 2018 10: 30
            +3
            So it is. Since you are firmly convinced that the Cossacks are a separate ethnic group, I will not argue.
            Let us just separate Ethnic Cossacks from Cossacks - participants of Cossack societies as voluntary associations of citizens of the Russian Federation. And my comments and suggestions relate to them, second. And you just stand aside, with my undoubted respect as one of the small nations (by the way, we’re a bit more wink ).
      2. dauria
        dauria 16 February 2018 20: 12
        +4
        1. To be born to them. 2. To know and honor their ancestors, the village, the army to respect the past.


        In India, this is called caste. We already have enough castes of "managers of the country by inheritance." "Cossacks" can not pull. Although if the "Cossack" is equivalent to "pennyak", "Vladimir", "Omsk" - figs with you, call yourself what you like, it’s not a pity. Just don’t ask for money.
        1. Romey
          Romey 16 February 2018 20: 36
          +1
          Did I ask you for money? I don’t need someone else’s, but you can ask registrars at whose expense the banquet is.
          And where is the caste? We are just a people, a very small people. If you recognize the division into Russian, Ukrainians and Belarusians. If not, then again the fourth branch of the Russian superethnos.
          1. dauria
            dauria 16 February 2018 20: 50
            +4
            Did I ask you for money? I don’t need a stranger


            What am I reproaching? If a person works, he served as it should be –– he doesn’t spit Mordvin or a Cossack, a Muslim or a heretic. To stick out an origin is harm. Somewhere I read "the only reason that you are white is just because your dad was not a black man." And interest circles - please, at least ballroom dancing, at least Tolkien lovers, at least Cossacks. Do not demand privileges and attention, otherwise tomorrow lovers of Dom-2 will also want to restore order in Russia.
      3. Gaersul
        Gaersul 16 February 2018 20: 51
        +1

        Good day. Article 26 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, you can read and comments on it. Any, absolutely any citizen of Russia can become a Cossack, if he certainly has such a desire. Just a note. :)
      4. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 18 February 2018 08: 41
        +1
        to become a Cossack one must be 1) - a fugitive criminal 2) - if not Orthodox, then accept Orthodoxy
        all
        it's about the traditions of the Cossacks
        Any Orthodox person could become a Cossack - learn history from the very first grade
        The Cossacks have nothing to do with the ethnic group, the serf simply went to the Cossacks and everything, the captured Tatar left, converted to Orthodoxy and became a Cossack - that's all
        where does the ethnic group and ancestors in general?
        if you honor the traditions of the Cossacks - follow them, do not invent a gag
        you’ll see a runaway, he will want to stay with you - you will certainly find out whether he is Orthodox, yes — you must accept him as a Cossack, no, then no, if you accept Orthodoxy — accept
        what ancestors in general? what is the ethnic group of the cossacks? they didn’t have a division by nationality, only faith was important
        this is the Cossack tradition, and all that’s next is innovation
        1. Romey
          Romey 18 February 2018 09: 35
          0
          These two points are precisely the remake that does not have a logical scientific basis.
          The first point appeared in the 20s when they tried to explain the Cossacks as a phenomenon from the point of view of the Marxist theory of the class struggle, i.e. there was a simplification of history for political purposes. The second leads to Gogol's Taras Bulba and the Cossacks, who generally stand apart and are the subject of a separate discussion.
  9. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 16 February 2018 08: 47
    +16
    To begin with, I propose to these Cossacks to solve the problem of squeezing land in the Stavropol region by large agricultural holdings from small owners! So skat work on your field. Well, then let them begin to amend the government, because nothing shakes Russia like comprador’s power!
  10. Loess
    Loess 16 February 2018 08: 52
    +11
    I still can’t understand who the Cossacks are: private security companies, PMCs, the militia, an interest club? I don’t understand their role ... I agree that on the ground they can maintain order on the streets, but for such a role they have an overblown structure ... They have regiments, divisions ... Who finances them? In principle, I am neutral towards them, I just can’t understand ...
  11. Ural resident
    Ural resident 16 February 2018 08: 59
    +15
    From the Soviet times, the Cossacks as a class were destroyed, but in tsarist times it was a force in the Caucasus. Russians are being forced out of the Caucasus, if the Cossacks can resist this, then only for it. In any case, in the Krasnodar Territory, where Cossacks keep territory on the coast, all sorts of "mountain argali" are not worn there and you can relax with your wife and children.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 13: 22
      +3
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      Cossacks since the Soviet era as a class destroyed,

      Estate, not class
  12. uskrabut
    uskrabut 16 February 2018 09: 05
    +12
    But interestingly, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, is the Cossacks what? Illegal armed formation? PMCs? Nonprofit public organization? Of the 154-FZ nothing is clear, some common phrases. They seem to hint that this is a civil service, but the civil service is specifically written in 79-FZ, and there is not a word about any Cossack societies. On the legal side of the issue, the Cossacks are about nothing. More like a gang, to which the authorities have no complaints.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 16 February 2018 09: 12
      +2
      Quote: uskrabut
      But interestingly, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, is the Cossacks what? Illegal armed formation? PMCs? Nonprofit public organization? Of the 154-FZ nothing is clear, some common phrases. They seem to hint that this is a civil service, but the civil service is specifically written in 79-FZ, and there is not a word about any Cossack societies. On the legal side of the issue, the Cossacks are about nothing. More like a gang, to which the authorities have no complaints.

      Earlier in the center of Krasnodar patrolled along with the cops. The last few months they are not visible
      1. uskrabut
        uskrabut 16 February 2018 09: 22
        +15
        Yeah, a voluntary folk squad dressed up in theatrical artifacts that look like a Cossack uniform.
  13. Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 February 2018 09: 41
    +8
    It is not necessary to check the strength of the Cossacks
    Do they even know what Cossacks are?
  14. Romey
    Romey 16 February 2018 09: 46
    +18
    Shame and clowning. I say this with pain in my heart, as a direct descendant of the Don and Kuban Cossacks. Circassians pulled on, trousers with stripes, hung medals and epaulettes and went to the grandmother's train stations ... Yes, more than half of these are no one's attitude to the Cossacks. I ask one such: who is that by last name, clan, from which village? And he told me, they say we do not have villages, I am Kostroma. I continue to him: and then why are you a Cossack? He told me: entered ... As in one known substance.
    1. tasha
      tasha 16 February 2018 12: 57
      +2
      These also have no pages ...
      My mood is Friday-hooligan ... wink

      1. Romey
        Romey 16 February 2018 16: 01
        +6
        So let's play the trick! laughing The photo shows two representatives of the Cossack estate, the Buryats, or even more precisely the Mongols by nationality, assigned to the Transbaikal Cossack army in building 18 - early. 19th century. I draw your attention to the Cossack estate and the whole problem is that they often confuse the estate with the ethnic group. The Cossack estate itself appeared only in 1836 by decree of the Emperor Nikolai Pavlovich. For convenience and streamlining the performance of military service by the Cossacks. Until that moment, in all official documents and directories of the Russian Empire, Cossacks were listed as the fourth tribe of the Russian people, i.e. actually a separate ethnos in the superethnos. In addition, the Eastern Cossack troops, starting from the Orenburg, were formed by decrees of kings and emperors and were equipped with both local residents and representatives of indigenous peoples. True, for the quickest “rendering”, these new troops were formed on the basis of immigrants from the Don, Urals, and Little Russia as a core, and each army had its own characteristics. And if we are talking about the Cossack ethnic group, we primarily mean the most ancient troops - the Don, Ural, Tersk, the very ones about which Karamzin wrote that the Cossacks were more ancient than the Batyev invasion. The fragments of the Great Steppe absorbed the Slavic element. which later became dominant. Zaporizhzhya and Little Russian troops also stand apart in view of that. that the state, namely, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Commonwealth, began to intervene in the inter-Cossack processes much earlier than Moscow.
        P.S. If we consider the Cossacks as only an estate, then we get the whole current bunch of mummers deeply unconstitutional, since our estates have been abolished. Yes, and we, who are probably ethnic, are also outlawed - after all, there are no like us. Here is such an incident, there is no estate, but there are Cossacks.
        1. tasha
          tasha 16 February 2018 16: 30
          +1
          Somewhat higher, I cited an excerpt from the law, where the term "Cossack society" in its modern sense is given. And all current Cossacks are voluntary participants in this very society. So there is no unconstitutionality here.
          And when you come to a member of such a society with claims, then it is simply ridiculous and ridiculous. And to call them all without exception “mummers” is simply silly (read the good comment from sib.ataman below).
          I already wrote about the problem of separating ethnic Cossacks from the Cossacks of others, and I am glad that you support me. I suggest that. Since the word "Cossack" in society has long and alas been associated precisely with the estate and the current, as you call them "mummers," ethnicity must somehow stand out so as not to be confused. And there is already a sea of ​​options. You can call yourself "kaisaki", "Khakasy", "Khasaki" ... However, because of the peculiarities of the Russian language, I propose, like Gordeev's, "Russian" ...

          And you can still wear special pants wink
          1. tasha
            tasha 16 February 2018 16: 35
            0
            Actually what am I talking about. wink So here's the thing. I am sure that with the right approach, modern Cossacks can and should become one of the foundations of modern society. Since I can’t get everyone to think about the special selection of candidates for important posts for the state, so let those who have a real heartache for the country be taken to Cossacks ....
            1. Romey
              Romey 16 February 2018 16: 49
              +4
              Quote: tasha
              Actually what am I talking about. wink So here's the thing. I am sure that with the right approach, modern Cossacks can and should become one of the foundations of modern society. Since I can’t get everyone to think about the special selection of candidates for important posts for the state, so let those who have a real heartache for the country be taken to Cossacks ....

              Here you like to complicate the procedure to disgrace! Why such roundabout and muddy ways? It is necessary to return, at least to the normal Soviet education system, and it will not be necessary to recruit clowns who are sick for the state. wink
              1. tasha
                tasha 17 February 2018 05: 02
                0
                The system of education and upbringing is by itself. But time, time ...
                In addition, with all the achievements of the Soviet system, it also had very serious shortcomings ... Not everyone was able to grow up good, kind and honest people wink

                Earlier, people joined the party. And there was no selection, for the time being. This is my parallel.
          2. Romey
            Romey 16 February 2018 16: 36
            +2
            And why not name “mummies”? Or better yet, dumplings. In my opinion the most. No, really. We will not give our own and continue the banter further. laughing Yes, nothing good will come of this undertaking and it will fail as well as all undertakings failed if they are supervised by the presidential administration .. laughing And about the claims I agree. Stupid. You have to beat right away. Or whip as expected ... laughing
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 16 February 2018 17: 17
              +1
              Quote: romey
              And why not name “mummies”? Or better yet, dumplings. In my opinion the most. No, really. We will not give our own and continue the banter further. laughing Yes, nothing good will come of this undertaking and it will fail as well as all undertakings failed if they are supervised by the presidential administration .. laughing And about the claims I agree. Stupid. You have to beat right away. Or whip as expected ... laughing

              Do you not understand the Russian Romans of us, or do you still have genetic memory in Tsarigrad in your genetic memory? Therefore, they did not like Russians and Cossacks?
              1. Romey
                Romey 16 February 2018 20: 51
                +1
                Quote: RUSS
                Quote: romey
                And why not name “mummies”? Or better yet, dumplings. In my opinion the most. No, really. We will not give our own and continue the banter further. laughing Yes, nothing good will come of this undertaking and it will fail as well as all undertakings failed if they are supervised by the presidential administration .. laughing And about the claims I agree. Stupid. You have to beat right away. Or whip as expected ... laughing

                Do you not understand the Russian Romans of us, or do you still have genetic memory in Tsarigrad in your genetic memory? Therefore, they did not like Russians and Cossacks?

                Well, why? even that has been preserved in genetic memory. that we, the Romans, nipped the Rus, too. For example, in 941, Ingvar’s fleet was burned with Greek fire. Even in the general code it is recorded as John Tzimiskes pinched Svyatoslav. laughing Actually, being a Cossack by blood, I love myself. Even more...
                1. RUSS
                  RUSS 17 February 2018 08: 42
                  +1
                  Quote: romey
                  Well, why? even that has been preserved in genetic memory. that we, the Romans, nipped the Rus, too. For example, in 941, Ingvar’s fleet was burned with Greek fire. Even in the general code it is recorded as John Tzimiskes pinched Svyatoslav.

                  Bottom line: there are no romei and their legacy is almost gone, but the Russians are and Moscow is Third Rome
                  1. Romey
                    Romey 17 February 2018 22: 14
                    0
                    Quote: RUSS

                    Bottom line: there are no romei and their legacy is almost gone, but the Russians are and Moscow is Third Rome

                    While Hagia Sophia is standing and the brothers of the Holy Mount Athos exist, the Christian Roman Empire - Byzantium is alive. It’s just that she’s covered and waiting for the Lord to show his favor and return the Holy Cross to her dome. wink
            2. tasha
              tasha 17 February 2018 05: 06
              +1
              Stupid. You have to beat right away.

              You have some Cossack snobbery. wink You yourself write that there are ethnic Cossacks and there are estate. What are your complaints about modern Cossacks? Nothing ... And they themselves will get rid of the ballast, I hope.
              1. Romey
                Romey 17 February 2018 22: 04
                +2
                Colleague! Claims mass. Although there are reservations. The attitude towards freaks is clearly negative. A very negative attitude towards registrars who work outside the Cossack regions in the form of some remodels like CCV and BOKO. It’s just a negative attitude towards regional registrars kept by regional administrations and some social activists who like military uniforms of the 1912 model. But the attitude towards the registrars of the villages and farms of the Cossack regions is quite neutral and even positive, since they know perfectly well who the Cossack is and who is not (although also with a reservation, in some villages there are no Cossacks from the word at all). Often, the registry there has a pronounced ethnic color and serves as a form of local self-organization because there are no others. In general, with a black sheep, even a shred of wool. And even patrolling is perceived as more tolerant than anywhere else in Moscow or Vologda, because the Cossacks have the right to restore order, whether they like it or not. Well, probably the main complaint. Over the years of the so-called The “revival” of the population developed the stereotype of a “Cossack” - a half-drunk gopnik, dressed like a Cossack, calling for some kind of woman, Lyuba, hanged with all sorts of muddy trinkets as a demobil of a construction battalion and with epaulets of no less than a corral (I always wanted to ask such Mr. Ahvitser "And where are your Cossacks, your nobleness?"). And it’s very unpleasant for me if, for some reason, wearing a national headdress (it’s very warm in winter), they start to squint and whisper to me that you look like a clown ... It's not normal, but you can’t but admit that these guys who pretend to be the role of some kind of rods there, we tried very hard to form a similar attitude to all Cossacks, disgracing us at the very least. And therefore, we, Cossacks, demand ethnic and will demand to stop discrediting in the eyes of fellow citizens of other nationalities our name as registrars and public figures.
                1. tasha
                  tasha 18 February 2018 10: 53
                  0
                  I can understand you. If someone dressed up in the national costume of my people and violated the ugliness, then the relationship with such a "clown" would be one. Similarly, a long time ago in a distant galaxy, real Jedi are indignant, looking at all kinds of cosplayers ... wink
                  But turning the coin over, you can see the real achievements of modern Cossacks. Well, no luck for you, you have chosen the traditions of your people as the basis. Although, maybe lucky ... They will not forget ..
                  And you, as I think, just need to calm down and help the Cossacks class become better. Take on the role of guardians ... wink
                  Do you still know what? For example, the primordial customs of my people are not known to everyone, not even to ourselves, and therefore we can come up with something new .. For the good of the matter .. Sometimes we do this. Take note ... wink
                  1. Romey
                    Romey 18 February 2018 13: 04
                    0
                    Quote: tasha
                    But turning the coin over, you can see the real achievements of modern Cossacks. Well, no luck for you, you have chosen the traditions of your people as the basis. Although, maybe lucky ... They will not forget ..
                    :

                    I'm afraid that will be quite the other way around. The achievements of the "modern Cossacks", in contrast to the obvious harm, are not visible at all. And in order to learn traditions and cultural features, it’s not enough to read a couple of textbooks and a couple of fiction. You need to feel them with your own hands, listen to the majestic Cossack songs that the great-grandmother sang while working in the garden, how famously the Cossack and Lezginka (absolutely unlike the Caucasian) dances to harmoniously dance two shabby grandfathers with their father in the steppe ... You will not believe it, but I remember how Dad put me on a horse at 4 years old. Without any pathos, even if it was not a combat horse, but an ordinary breedless filly named Marfut, I remembered this for life. And this was in the early 80s without any drafts, daggers, bloomers with stripes and achvitser epaulettes in the forgotten Kazakhstan village of God, where the ancestors were sent in the early thirties. And most importantly, these are family legends ... In my family they are such that they are quite comparable with the Sholokhov epic. I can’t imagine how to convey this to remakers from the word at all, and most importantly I don’t understand why ...
                    Quote: tasha

                    Do you still know what? For example, the primordial customs of my people are not known to everyone, not even to ourselves, and therefore we can come up with something new .. For the good of the matter .. Sometimes we do this. Take note ... wink

                    So they come up with this ... That already the hair on my head stands on end. some commentators below demonstrate this art firsthand. And moreover, they begin to teach you how to live right ...
                    1. tasha
                      tasha 18 February 2018 13: 59
                      0
                      .. the main thing I do not understand why ..

                      Then, so that there would be someone to transfer the grandmother across the road. wink Exaggerate, of course. Treat modern Cossacks as pioneers or adult scouts. And if the principles of participation in this movement benefit the state and society, this can only be welcomed ...
                      A man entered the Cossack society, which means that he has responsibilities ... And he voluntarily accepted them. This is the meaning .. Someone needs, in our crazy world ...
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 17 February 2018 02: 14
          +1
          And in our passport it is not written who is who - a Russian person, a Tatar or a German at all. How interesting it turns out - there are no nationalities in the passport, but there are people of different nationalities. Here it’s not written anywhere that I am Russian and a Cossack, only I just know that!
  15. basmach
    basmach 16 February 2018 10: 00
    +19
    I read about ... how the Cossacks always rose to the defense and it became funny and nasty. How 100 years ago in the form of 19 created the Cossack republics on the Don, how Krasnov and Shkuro created Cossack divisions and fought for the Germans, as in 612 the Cossacks and Poles stood near Moscow. Savior
    1. captain
      captain 16 February 2018 10: 51
      +10
      Quote: basmach
      I read about ... how the Cossacks always rose to the defense and it became funny and nasty. How 100 years ago in the form of 19 created the Cossack republics on the Don, how Krasnov and Shkuro created Cossack divisions and fought for the Germans, as in 612 the Cossacks and Poles stood near Moscow. Savior

      Go and use a gas, you crack a red fish and get a salary or pension? I remind the reader of the Short Course of the CPSU (b); Siberia, the Far East, Cossacks joined Russia. Such as Ermak, Khabarov, Dezhnev and others. What happened in 1918 is a tragedy for the RUSSIAN people, including the Cossacks. It was not necessary for Lenin, Trotsky, and especially Uritsky and Sverdlov to arrange storytelling, moreover, bloody. Well, about the Cossack divisions; There were two of them and a brigade in 15 Cossack cavalry corps SS. So in the army of infantry Vlasov was 3, it is several times more in numbers. Well, your favorites (for the communists, the Latvian arrows were saviors), the Latvians gave Hitler as many as 2 SS infantry divisions. No republic has given as many SS men as your saviors. You so hate everything Russian that praise Latvians for their special zeal in destroying Russians. Damned Russophobes.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 16 February 2018 11: 10
        +19
        Quote: captain
        What happened in 1918 is a tragedy for the RUSSIAN people, including the Cossacks. It was not necessary for Lenin, Trotsky, and especially Uritsky and Sverdlov to arrange storytelling, moreover, bloody.

        It was not necessary for the Russian officer, General Krasnov, to write to Emperor Wilhelm during World War I still going on: on the recognition of the separatist state of the Don Army, on the withdrawal of this state from the war and its neutrality, and on its readiness to supply Germany with food, bypassing the blockade of the Entente - in exchange to help Germany in expanding the borders of the Don Army at the expense of the lands of Russia.
        United and indivisible Russia? They didn’t hear it ... therefore we will take away the Cossacks from Denikin - they have nothing to fight with the Volunteers for some kind of Russia there. And Drozdovsky’s squad will also try to subjugate ourselves. And we will try to send Denikin himself to take Tsaritsyn for the Don Army.
        And these people still say something about the obscene Brest peace and the squandering of the red lands of the Empire. smile
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 16 February 2018 12: 18
          +4
          Quote: Alexey RA
          It was not necessary for the Russian officer, General Krasnov, during still marching World War I write a letter to Emperor Wilhelm: on the recognition of the separatist state of the Don Army,

          What kind of war, dear? Peace with Germany was concluded in March!
          And from the bandits who seized power and waged war from the North, it was necessary to defend themselves.
          Quote: Alexey RA
          in exchange for German assistance in expanding the borders of the Don Army at the expense of Russian lands.

          Not help, but recognition
          Quote: Alexey RA
          And these people still say something about the obscene Brest peace and squandering the red lands of the Empire

          What is wrong? All right, the current border of Russia from the West is about the Brest Peace — as Russia was then given, it remains.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 16 February 2018 15: 02
            +6
            Quote: Olgovich
            What kind of war, dear? Peace with Germany was concluded in March!

            White recognized Brest peace? However ... it turns out that the Whites recognized the legitimacy of the power of the Reds. laughing
            Quote: Olgovich
            Not help, but recognition

            To ask your majesty to promote for joining the Army for strategic reasons, the cities of Kamyshin and Tsaritsyn of the Saratov province and the city of Voronezh and the Liski and Povorino stations and draw the border of the Don Army, as indicated on the map available in the Winter Village.
            To ask Your Imperial Majesty to help our young state with guns, rifles, ammunition and engineering equipment, and if you recognize this as profitable, arrange gun, gun, shell and ammunition factories within the Don Army.

            Quote: Olgovich
            What is wrong? All right, the current border of Russia from the West is about the Brest Peace — as Russia was then given, it remains.

            It is simply amusing that separatists and traitors (intercourse with the enemy and a separate peace) accused the squandering of red lands.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 16 February 2018 15: 17
              +1
              Quote: Alexey RA
              White recognized Brest peace? However ... it turns out that the Whites recognized the legitimacy of the power of the Reds

              The occupiers recognized the bandits who seized power, the bandits in Petrograd recognized the occupants, and there was no war in this situation.
              Quote: Alexey RA
              To ask your majesty to promote for joining the Army for strategic reasons, the cities of Kamyshin and Tsaritsyn of the Saratov province and the city of Voronezh and the Liski and Povorino stations and draw the border of the Don Army, as indicated on the map available in the Winter Village.

              To promote, not to help, "take the land from Russia." The Bolsheviks are NOT Russia.
              They were Russia only for the occupiers

              Quote: Alexey RA
              It is simply amusing that separatists and traitors (intercourse with the enemy and a separate peace) accused the squandering of red lands.

              Traitors, by your definition (intercourse with the enemy and a separate world), are the Bolsheviks-March 1918, who dispersed the legitimate authority.
              ALL independence declared after the thief, and this is a consequence of the thief.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 16 February 2018 18: 55
                +2
                Quote: Olgovich
                The occupiers recognized the bandits who seized power, the bandits in Petrograd recognized the occupants, and there was no war in this situation.

                So this is a separate peace between the invaders and bandits. What has White to do with it? They also fought against the bandits seizing power - for the restoration of the Russian Republic, whose government was overthrown by the Bolshevik coalition.
                Well, it turns out that the Whites had to recognize all the decrees and treaties of the Reds - since the bawdy Brest Peace had ended the war for them too.
                Quote: Olgovich
                To promote, not to help, "take the land from Russia." The Bolsheviks are NOT Russia.

                So the Don Army is not Russia. The Russian Republic is a member of the Entente and has not left the war.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 17 February 2018 07: 17
                  0
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  So this is a separate peace between the invaders and bandits. What has White to do with it? They also fought against the bandits seizing power - for the restoration of the Russian Republic, whose government was overthrown by the Bolshevik coalition.

                  Bolshevik coalition? Something new, not seen in Ilych.
                  Whites despite the fact that the Orni existed in peace between the bandits and the invaders.
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Well, it turns out that the Whites had to recognize all the decrees and treaties of the Reds - since the bawdy Brest Peace had ended the war for them too.

                  Nothing happens: Brest betrayal is one of the reasons for the resistance to the Bolsheviks.
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  So the Don Army is not Russia. The Russian Republic is a member of the Entente and has not left the war.

                  The army is part of Russia. The republic was destroyed by the Bolsheviks.
                  1. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA 19 February 2018 10: 42
                    0
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Bolshevik coalition? Something new, not seen in Ilych.

                    You still refer to the "Short Course". smile
                    The Bolsheviks then crushed these coalition allies in July 1918.
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Nothing happens: Brest betrayal is one of the reasons for the resistance to the Bolsheviks.

                    That is, on the one hand, the Brest Peace is a Brest betrayal. And those who oppose the Reds also oppose the Brest Peace, for the fulfillment of allied obligations to the Entente.
                    And on the other hand, whites are making full use of the world that has come, collaborating with the Germans, whom they do not recognize.
                    Ivan Abramovich, you either remove the cross or put on your underpants. ©
        2. captain
          captain 16 February 2018 12: 24
          +3
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: captain
          What happened in 1918 is a tragedy for the RUSSIAN people, including the Cossacks. It was not necessary for Lenin, Trotsky, and especially Uritsky and Sverdlov to arrange storytelling, moreover, bloody.

          It was not necessary for the Russian officer, General Krasnov, to write to Emperor Wilhelm during World War I still going on: on the recognition of the separatist state of the Don Army, on the withdrawal of this state from the war and its neutrality, and on its readiness to supply Germany with food, bypassing the blockade of the Entente - in exchange to help Germany in expanding the borders of the Don Army at the expense of the lands of Russia.
          United and indivisible Russia? They didn’t hear it ... therefore we will take away the Cossacks from Denikin - they have nothing to fight with the Volunteers for some kind of Russia there. And Drozdovsky’s squad will also try to subjugate ourselves. And we will try to send Denikin himself to take Tsaritsyn for the Don Army.
          And these people still say something about the obscene Brest peace and the squandering of the red lands of the Empire. smile

          Or maybe Lenin did not need to help the Germans in 1914-18gg?
          “For us Russians, from the point of view of the interests of the working masses and the working class of Russia, there can be no doubt whatsoever that the smallest evil would now be immediately — the defeat of tsarism in this war. For tsarism is a hundred times worse than KAISERISM. .. "(Lenin," Letter to Shlyapnikov 17.10.14 ".) Pay attention to the year of writing.
          What a grandfather Blank patriot was.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 16 February 2018 15: 37
            +4
            Quote: captain
            Or maybe Lenin did not need to help the Germans in 1914-18gg?

            And you have blacks lynched! ©
            What does Ulyanov have to do with it? This is not a question of the Reds - they are for blodol'tsev and so are the fiends of hell, capable of any muck.
            We are talking about the "White Cossack" traitor and separatist.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 16 February 2018 16: 02
              +2
              Quote: Alexey RA
              What does Ulyanov have to do with it? This is not a question of the Reds - they are for blodol'tsev and so are the fiends of hell, capable of any muck.

              With the fact that before the civil war I didn’t have it, like independence.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 19 February 2018 10: 52
                +2
                Quote: Olgovich
                With the fact that before the civil war I didn’t have it, like independence.

                That is, the seizure of power by the red automatically gives indulgence to white for everything? And can the Knights of the White House calmly set off in all serious ways, justifying this with their struggle against usurpers?
                Well, worthy position, nothing to say. Especially its continuation - when the fighter for Russia joined the ranks with those for whom the Russian people were only a resource in the service of the Reich, and Russia itself was an agricultural appendage with slaves ..

                Aimed at communism, but ended up in Russia. ©
  16. Anyone
    Anyone 16 February 2018 11: 23
    +11
    Quote: captain
    [The communists only handed out Russian land, but there is no desire to win it back from them. You and your like do not give a damn about Russian people and lands your brother gave to anyone, but not Russian.

    Yeah. These obviously "conquered the Russian land" during the Great Patriotic War, while the "damned commies", as you sing here, distributed the Russian land to the enemy:
    1. captain
      captain 16 February 2018 16: 55
      +2
      Quote: Anyone
      Quote: captain
      [The communists only handed out Russian land, but there is no desire to win it back from them. You and your like do not give a damn about Russian people and lands your brother gave to anyone, but not Russian.

      Yeah. These obviously "conquered the Russian land" during the Great Patriotic War, while the "damned commies", as you sing here, distributed the Russian land to the enemy:

      Her, this land, as you say, was distributed by Blank and Trotsky in 1918-24gg. And there’s nothing to include fool. Where is the land that existed before 1917, where is the people? There were 180 million people in Russia, and now 145 million. Who is it with us, maybe Hitler took it or the Japanese? The area of ​​the Russian Federation is 17125191, and the area of ​​the Russian Empire is 19155587,7 square. km, where did Christ sellers divide the land? Why did the lands conquered by the blood of my people be distributed? For so distributed, and a lot along with the Russian people. 25 million people of Russians, in your dope, are left to their fate in foreign countries (in the formerly Russian territory.) Russophobes and haters of the Russian people, hiding behind a red flag. Internationalists are lousy, as Lenin wrote, you do not have a homeland.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 19: 45
      +1
      Quote: Anyone
      Yeah. These obviously "conquered the Russian land" during the Great Patriotic War, while the "damned commies", as you sing here, distributed the Russian land to the enemy:

      Well, the former communists against the Red Army fought in the Second World War, in the ROA, for example, about 125000 of these were led by the Bolshevik Vlasov.
  17. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 16 February 2018 11: 27
    +5
    we have the award "Hero of the Kuban" ??? !!!
    I read all the comments, no one explained: who, how, for what they give out medals, orders, titles to the Cossacks ??????
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 12: 52
      +3
      Quote: tsvetkov1274
      we have the award "Hero of the Kuban" ??? !!!
      I read all the comments, no one explained: who, how, for what they give out medals, orders, titles to the Cossacks ??????

      Medal "Hero of Labor of Cuban" -
      the highest award of the Krasnodar Territory, established by the Decree of the Head of the Administration of the Krasnodar Territory of July 23, 2002 No. 803.
      According to the Regulation, the “Hero of Labor of the Kuban” medal is awarded to citizens with a total working experience of at least 25 years, who have worked at enterprises, institutions, organizations of state, municipal, private and other forms of ownership in the Krasnodar Territory for at least 20 years and in the labor collective for at least 10 years in recognition of their labor merits, for their high performance in agriculture, industry, transport, communications, health, education, culture and other areas of work.

      For particularly outstanding innovative activities, making a significant contribution to improving production efficiency, promoting the rise of the economy, science, culture, the Hero of Labor of the Kuban medal, in exceptional cases, by decision of the head of the regional administration, persons without the length of service can be awarded.

      Repeated rewarding with a medal is not performed. Deprivation of the medal “Hero of Labor of the Kuban” can be made by order of the head of the administration of the Krasnodar Territory or by a court verdict. The head of the administration of the Krasnodar Territory cancels the award order if it becomes clear that the submission for the award is unreliable or unfounded.
      Medal "Hero of the Kuban" It is the highest form of encouragement by the head of administration (governor) of the Krasnodar Territory to residents of the Krasnodar Territory for the courage and heroism shown in the performance of official duties, the detention of especially dangerous criminals, the elimination of natural and man-made disasters, and other conditions that pose a risk to life and have shown courage , courage and courage in strengthening law and order in the Krasnodar Territory.

      Citizens of the Russian Federation residing in the territory of the Krasnodar Territory are presented for the award with the Hero of the Kuban medal.

      According to the decision of the head of administration (governor) of the Krasnodar Territory, citizens of the Russian Federation who do not reside in the territory of the Krasnodar Territory may be presented for the heroic feat to be awarded the Medal.
      1. tsvetkov1274
        tsvetkov1274 16 February 2018 13: 02
        +1
        ATP for clarification ...
        what about the second part of the question ??
  18. Geronimo73
    Geronimo73 16 February 2018 11: 33
    +16
    the craving of adult men for changing clothes is alarming.
    Would go to work
  19. Sadko88
    Sadko88 16 February 2018 12: 48
    +5
    You do not understand one. Yesterday we decided not to divide each other into register and public. Stop any strife and resentment. To build a single structure, led by a punishable chieftain and, together with the Orthodox Church, and together resist all those who want to push us together. Zaporizhzhya Cossacks also applies.
    Until November, we have time to work out a regulation and a charter. I was there yesterday and, unlike other Circles, I observed rare unanimity and discipline. And there are mummers or not mummers who somehow relate to the drum. “Call me what you want” there is such a song ... This reform has long matured and,
    Thank God we got it
    1. tasha
      tasha 16 February 2018 13: 39
      +2
      If not a secret, what goals were set for the modern Cossacks at this meeting?
  20. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 16 February 2018 13: 26
    +2
    It would not be worth the shame on the site ...
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 14: 38
      0
      Quote: Mikhail3
      It would not be worth the shame on the site ...

      Would you just read Samsonov? laughing
  21. RUSS
    RUSS 16 February 2018 13: 26
    0
    Quote: tsvetkov1274
    how, for which they give out medals, orders, titles to the Cossacks ??????

    http://onagradah.ru/nagrady-kazachestva/#
    1. tsvetkov1274
      tsvetkov1274 16 February 2018 13: 42
      +3
      thanks. I understand-5 years served as a Cossack-a bunch of medals already
  22. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 16 February 2018 13: 29
    +8
    Quote: Geronimo73
    the craving of adult men for changing clothes is alarming.

    This is a fat PLUS! I agree 100%.
  23. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 16 February 2018 13: 38
    +10
    In relation to the Cossacks, you can judge in reality how Russian you are (regardless of nationality)! I have often seen pseudo-patriots drooling towards the Cossacks, pouring mud over it. But truly Russian people (regardless of nationality and in the broad sense of this definition) have always treated them with respect and great hope.
    The origins of the reviving Cossacks in the early 90s were many real war veterans who defended their homeland at the front. There were many “Afghans” and other internationalists, retired and active security officials, all of whom had a pain in the soul for the Fatherland destroyed by the EBNs and K '. And over this quarter century, the Cossacks have repeatedly proved their commitment to Russia and protecting its interests: in Transnistria, in the Balkans, in two Chechens, in Abkhazia, Crimea and Donbas! (Any joint protection of the border, public order, garden societies, bending enterprises, and many others. Are not considered at all). And there were not only Don, Kuban, or Tersk who, for obvious reasons, had a frying pan under their asses, but also Cossacks from all over Russia, even from Kamchatka, Sakhalin and Yakutia! And they didn’t go at the call of the military registration and enlistment office or the contract of PMCs, private security companies or whatever. Not all were returned to their hard-earned money, often divorced from their families, and returned alive and unharmed. And the Kuril Islands from the transfer of samurai EBNami defended back in the 92nd (when Boriska was afraid of terrorists, and did not fly to Tokyo), after a loud promise through the media of the Cossacks of the Far East, to arrange a second Transnistria. And for their service no one has ever received anything from anyone over the years, even words of gratitude. One statement of the fact from the power-holders-mm-mm, the big role is played in the country. The mummers are not mummers, but they play. And they will play! Cossacks are the descendants of their ancestors, who, too, oh, how much they did for Russia! And conscience does not order to betray their memory! Otherwise, their own children and grandchildren will later be cursed!
    Over the past quarter century, not everyone has mastered the thorny path of contempt, schism, and the need for daily service to the cause of rebirth because of inauspiciousness. Fans of fast hashtik were weeded out a lot. Those who remain farther are those “strong nuts” that drag in their teeth, often out of the fire, and continue to produce people like and needed by the fatherland (those who are interested in trout names, history books, encyclopedias).
    And the Cossacks have no titles! There are ranks that have developed over a century, and to abandon this tradition, like the whole country of traditions, to be magnified in full name, to blow bitter on holidays, to produce children, baptize and grow up, and I’m not going to refuse many other traditions!
    And before others chasto shto erysipelas crooked, first turn to the mirror!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 13: 49
      0
      Thanks for the comment!
    2. would
      would 18 February 2018 09: 44
      +6
      always treated them with respect and great hope.

      Cossacks are the descendants of their ancestors, who, too, oh, how much they did for Russia! And conscience does not order to betray their memory!



      Yeah, for example, with respect for Bloody Sunday, when the Cossacks chopped down with sabers, mounted them on peaks, beat them to death with whips and trampled on horseback peaceful demonstrators on the orders of the bourgeoisie. And after the revolution, where the Cossacks also won "respect", they staged a Kosakenlager under the roof of Hitler. Yes, we remember the Russian people whom the Cossacks always served. And so in the USSR you were treated as you were.

      And we know perfectly which you are not going to betray the memory and that you are dreaming again about chopping down drafts and pushing the peaks of the Russian people, women and children at the behest of the oligarchs.
  24. Klaus
    Klaus 16 February 2018 14: 09
    +9
    "... we will not allow anyone to undermine the situation. And if someone tries to do this, we will fix it. For this we have both opportunities and desires."
    Can remind uncle January 9, 1905, in which the Cossacks took part? You, mister good, SO will correct, if that?
    My opinion: since you put on epaulettes and a hat, please be kind enough to think responsibly over your words and statements.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 14: 45
      0
      Quote: Klaus
      May remind uncle January 9, 1905,

      You remind yourself how the Cossacks fought with the Japanese in the Far East in 1905.
      Yes, the rebellion on January 9 suppressed the Life Guards Cossack’s Life Guards regiment, but as you know, there were shots from the workers' side, either the rebels themselves were shot by the workers or the ruling police, and the troops with dignity crushed the rebellion.
      1. Deck
        Deck 16 February 2018 18: 01
        +9
        We will remind ourselves on our land that we want to. And about the immigrant Cossacks we remember from the behavior in 1905. And then the workers offended them, and they with honor and dignity. Look at them. Absolutely stunned?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 16 February 2018 19: 49
          0
          Quote: Deck
          . And about the immigrant Cossacks we remember from the behavior in 1905.

          Who are they for? And where is the Cossack in Russia?
          Quote: Deck
          . And about the immigrant Cossacks we remember from the behavior in 1905.

          So the workers there, what was with cotton candy? Correctly pressed to the root, sorry in the 17th did not work!
          1. Deck
            Deck 16 February 2018 20: 04
            +5
            It’s a pity that they didn’t finish it. But still to come.
            And in order for the nationalities to take Russian people into account how to love their homeland, one must have great arrogance
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 16 February 2018 22: 18
              0
              Quote: Deck
              It’s a pity that they didn’t finish it. But still to come.

              Call a doctor?
              Quote: Deck
              It’s a pity that they didn’t finish it. But still to come.

              Cossacks are not a minority, Cossacks are not a nation. How much can I repeat?
              1. Deck
                Deck 17 February 2018 07: 18
                +7
                Not a mouse, not a frog, but an unknown animal. And these statements are "we are from the Cossack family!" And we will hang around the streets with a saber. And if from an old family of dentists? With a drill? NS class, nationality. What? Social group, hobby group. Club of lovers of stripes?
                And once again I repeat: there will be faces with cabbage in a beard to indicate how the Russian people live - they will pull off portochki with stripes and pour a rod on the square.
            2. albert
              albert 17 February 2018 00: 39
              +4
              Quote: Deck
              It’s a pity that they didn’t finish it. But still ahead

              I agree. The republic "Cossack", as the Americans dream, should not be.
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 17 February 2018 08: 44
                0
                Quote: albert
                I agree. The republic "Cossack", as the Americans dream, should not be.

                The Americans have no such plans and never had.
                1. Pavel_n
                  Pavel_n 17 February 2018 13: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: RUSS
                  Quote: albert
                  I agree. The republic "Cossack", as the Americans dream, should not be.

                  The Americans have no such plans and never had.


                  How do you know? Dedicated to their plans? wink
      2. a housewife
        a housewife 17 February 2018 02: 19
        +2
        Speak more modernly - they did not allow us to arrange a maidan, as it is now in Kiev. They do not understand.
    2. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 16 February 2018 14: 54
      +3
      Well, in the trinet of a hero to pose, the merit is small! And before recalling about 1905, it would be nice to find out who financed it, who ordered it and who warmed up the pens on it (I already here, just now, recalled some ever-starving to someone else's). Current affairs in Russia and in the world, like a carbon copy of those events. But the Unified State Examination generation can judge everything by only three suggested guessing answers. Alas!
  25. Radikal
    Radikal 16 February 2018 15: 19
    +7
    "We will fix everyone who tries to loosen Russia!"
    How? Nagging? How is the "priest" under the king? winked
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: Radikal
      "We will fix everyone who tries to loosen Russia!"
      How? Nagging? How is the "priest" under the king? winked

      Your Koba restored the Cossacks in the army when it came to a big war.
      And by the way, in the Donbass, the Cossacks "correct" Cossacks, as we know, not only with whips.
  26. Laurus
    Laurus 16 February 2018 15: 54
    +15
    Yesaul, yesaul, why did you drink the horse ...
    Clowns are mummers, sucked to the state feeding trough.
    Well, they removed the opaque uniforms, they put camouflage in Syria too! Nefig in Moscow to Cossack, there are enough clowns here.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 16: 39
      0
      Quote: Laurel
      Clowns are mummers, sucked to the state feeding trough.

      Lavra and you are essentially mummers that put the NKVDeshnik on the avatar, and not your picture? Or do you see yourself as the arbiter of the law?
      Cossacks don’t stick to the feeder, they don’t ask for subsidies and benefits, they need a law, they want to work and serve the state on the contrary.
      Quote: Laurel
      Well, they removed the opaque uniforms, they put camouflage in Syria too! Nefig in Moscow to Cossack, here and so enough clowns

      The Cossacks have a traditional form in which their grandfathers and fathers fought in two world wars, and now, thank God, traditions are preserved.
      Regarding Syria, so why on earth should they be there? If such a cool couch strategist, maybe you should go to Syria?
      1. Laurus
        Laurus 16 February 2018 17: 47
        +12
        Well then an avatar, in real life I don’t go in archaic clothes. And if I put my cat on the profile picture, will you also blame me for something?
        As for the traditional form, everyone has it. Let's change the army into a shako or cocked hat with wigs, because that’s how great-grandfathers fought. By the way, how far back in time will we plunge in search of traditions, what will we dwell on: on Streltsy caftans, chain mail or capes from the skins of mammoths and cave bears?
        And Syria is quite out of place. If all these people in ridiculous clothes pretend to the role they are trying to play, then let them play it where the real Cossacks are supposed to - in the war.
        But I don’t have to send me to Syria, I served my twenty honestly and now I won’t get off the couch. Moreover, it’s not me who hangs up with home-made crosses-medals, I don’t decorate myself with fake epaulettes.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 16 February 2018 19: 09
          +2
          Quote: Laurel
          As for the traditional form, everyone has it. Let's change the army into a shako or cocked hat with wigs, because that’s how great-grandfathers fought.

          You confuse the historical form with the traditional one, look at the traditions in the West, for example among the British or in the East among the Indians, that someone is laughing at the bear caps of the English guards or over the military turbans from India?
          Quote: Laurel
          And Syria is quite out of place. If all these people in ridiculous clothes pretend to the role they are trying to play, then let them play it where the real Cossacks are supposed to - in the war.

          Cossacks are defenders of the Russian land, and in Syria our war is not quite defensive and not liberating in that sense, we are not fighting for Russia there, but we are fighting against terrorists and there are MTR forces for this.
          Quote: Laurel
          But I don’t have to send me to Syria, I served my twenty honestly and now I won’t get off the couch. Moreover, it’s not me who hangs up with home-made crosses-medals, I don’t decorate myself with fake epaulettes.

          I tell you once again, recently the standards of the uniform for registered Cossacks were adopted, the Cossacks have their own reward system, and those who wear home-made awards and epaulettes can be anyone and amateur artists and “mummers”, but the conversation is not about them .
    2. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 16 February 2018 16: 49
      +6
      Judging by the accuracy of the quotation, Laurus drank through the brains, and the outlook was limited to the bounds of the Garden Ring. Only Moscow is not all of Russia! But even in Moscow we know worthy Cossacks who have visited both Donbass and Syria, they just don’t tear off their shirts on their chests, and different shtetl couch experts in their lives have no decree!
      1. Laurus
        Laurus 16 February 2018 17: 50
        +8
        A cheap trick is the transition to personalities in the "so-and-so" style.
        As for the Cossacks, mummers, my opinion is unchanged. These are clowns in ridiculous clothes, fake epaulettes and home-made awards. Their place at the carnival and nowhere else.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 16 February 2018 18: 16
          +6
          Quote: Laurel
          Their place at the carnival and nowhere else.

          not allowed. their children will be afraid
        2. sib.ataman
          sib.ataman 17 February 2018 07: 46
          +3
          And nobody will call you there! You can continue to wipe your Faberge on the couch.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 17 February 2018 12: 20
            +7
            Quote: sib.ataman
            You can continue to wipe your Faberge on the couch.

            this you can say to the Kuban Cossacks. Where were the Cossacks when they were driven into slavery in the village of Kushchevskaya? So you are the same — you closed the clinic — clap, pensions — without a guarantee of residence, clap again, went to work in Moscow because she is not at home — clap again. Like everyone else. Why be offended?
  27. New Year day
    New Year day 16 February 2018 18: 15
    +7
    the mummers can only fool around. Where were these Cossacks in the village of Kushchevskaya? here is the money to "master" - we can, with a whip to resemble and people in the amusement - you can. Really, like everyone else.
  28. Sanya Terek
    Sanya Terek 16 February 2018 18: 41
    +1
    Quote: Olgovich
    Cossacks are already fighting 28 years-In Ossetia, in Chechnya, Transnistria, Donbass, wherever the protection of Russian people is needed. Many dead, many heroes. Isn’t they?

    Iksperd, deceive again. The official history of the Cossacks begins in the XV century, namely from 1489 - the moment the term “Cossack” was first mentioned. And what have they been doing for five centuries?
    Cossacks expanded the borders of the state, guarded and defended them.
  29. demo
    demo 16 February 2018 18: 52
    +4
    Let's choose from two images the one that we prefer.

    In the photo is the Kuban chieftain Vyacheslav Naumenko.

    And here is a military chieftain General of the cavalry Matvey Ivanovich Platov.
    Whoever is sweeter to him is our hero.

    Cossack is a peculiar state of human soul.
    Having gone from a criminal who was hiding in the Zaporizhzhya Sich, who took part in raids on the Moscow kingdom, who killed, robbed, raped, stole women and children for sale into slavery on the slave markets of Crimea, to the Empire’s support when it expanded and became, becoming an insurmountable wall between The Russian world and the highlanders of the Caucasus, having traveled thousands of kilometers of taiga roads and reached the Pacific Ocean, crossing the ocean, began to explore the American continent.
    In the Civil War, the Cossacks chopped each other for cabbage.
    In the Great Patriotic War they fought both against and for the Nazis.
    And it's all about the Cossacks.
    A complex ethnic group.
    But the Cossack idea, as the idea of ​​a moral bond of the people, is quite positive.
    If only she did not express herself in bending down those who, by their roots, cannot be a Cossack.
    And at the expense of the mummers, yes. In the first wave there were such.
    But the foam is leaving.
    All in good time.
    And iron ore must go a long way to turn into damask steel.
    The main thing is not to overheat.
    1. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 17 February 2018 07: 40
      +3
      For a quarter of a century, as the Cossacks in Russia began to exist legally, how many good and glorious deeds they managed to accomplish for the good of the Motherland for no reason, and all the Trotskyite lasts will not calm down, pouring worthy people over with slop and bile! Although they themselves in their life did not pick out roe from their nose!
    2. flicker
      flicker 17 February 2018 11: 25
      +1
      Whoever is sweeter to him is our hero.

      Thank you, one of the few objective comments.
  30. Radikal
    Radikal 16 February 2018 19: 01
    +1
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Radikal
    "We will fix everyone who tries to loosen Russia!"
    How? Nagging? How is the "priest" under the king? winked

    Your Koba restored the Cossacks in the army when it came to a big war.
    And by the way, in the Donbass, the Cossacks "correct" Cossacks, as we know, not only with whips.

    There was a specific question, a specific statement - is there anything on this topic? And about the merits of the Cossacks - besides them there were still many who were there! And in general - it’s better to read political information to your children! I myself can read it to you, and be sure to do it better than you - on a professional level, so to speak! wassat
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2018 19: 53
      0
      Quote: Radikal
      There was a specific question, a specific statement - is there anything on this topic?

      There was an answer to you - the Cossacks will restore order not only with whips, Donbass is an example.
      Quote: Radikal
      And in general - it’s better to read political information to your children!

      I read fairy tales to my children, and political information is an anachronism of a scoop. hi
  31. Gray cat
    Gray cat 16 February 2018 19: 02
    +6
    1967 - 1968 - He worked in the geological association Krasnodarneftegaz.
    1968 - 1970 - Service in the Soviet Army.
    1970 - 1974 - Service in the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    1974 - 1976 - Engineer for traffic safety of the Crimean PATP.
    1976 - 1984 - An employee of the control and audit service of the Crimean PATP.
    1984 - 1988 - Head of the control and auditing department of the Crimean PATP.
    1988 - 1990 - Chairman of the cooperative on growing agricultural products.
    1991 - 1997 - Deputy director of the construction company "Slavs".
    Since 1998, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the joint stock company Varenikovsky elevator.
    1991 - 1992 - Cossack of the 1st platoon of the 1st hundred of the Crimean city Cossack society.

    February 1, 1992 he was appointed assistant chieftain of the city Cossack society of the city of Krymsk.

    On August 6, 1994, he was elected ataman of the Crimean City Cossack Society.

    November 12, 1994 he was elected ataman of the Crimean regional Cossack society.
    http://old.slavakubani.ru/

    resource "Kuban Cossack army"
    observed in the 99th on the roads of the Krasnodar Territory. Milked the riders. "patriots"
  32. Old military officer
    Old military officer 16 February 2018 19: 46
    +2
    But this is great. I am not a Cossack, I welcome their activities in educating young people in Cossack cadet corps and in participating in the protection of the state border. The mummers are, of course, but they will be eliminated sooner or later, and the Cossacks will be reborn. Yes, there was reprisal, but not only that. Who started the civil war? Who constantly crap our country and continues to crap? Need to be reminded? A whip would have gone well through the white coilers and their human rights and would have reminded that a person also has duties and responsibilities. It is necessary to remind about it, oh, how it is necessary. I have the honor.
    1. Dedall
      Dedall 16 February 2018 21: 43
      +6
      Respected Old military officer, many of my colleagues work as educators in the Novocherkassk cadet corps. When we created this system, our legislators took a long time to figure out how to pay for their work and decided that the teachers from the kindergarten, that is, 8 thousand each, would receive it. Save night shifts. But the sapiens in Cossack uniforms do not go there to these educators - it’s not enough income.
  33. PupkinSon
    PupkinSon 16 February 2018 19: 49
    +2
    Why offend all Cossacks, both mummers and peacocks in any structure and formation are. For that, from time immemorial, Russia has held on to the Cossacks - honor, praise and a bow to our ancestors.
  34. Grandfather Barsik
    Grandfather Barsik 16 February 2018 20: 58
    +1
    Circle Goal
    To not let you go in a circle
    Joking don't be angry
  35. Radikal
    Radikal 16 February 2018 21: 02
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Radikal
    There was a specific question, a specific statement - is there anything on this topic?

    There was an answer to you - the Cossacks will restore order not only with whips, Donbass is an example.
    Quote: Radikal
    And in general - it’s better to read political information to your children!

    I read fairy tales to my children, and political information is an anachronism of a scoop. hi

    Yeah, that is, in addition to nuts, they will have other "arguments"? sad
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  37. Brigadier
    Brigadier 16 February 2018 23: 45
    +9
    «We will correct everyone who tries to undermine Russia!» fool
    How would you not corrected! wassat
    Russia is great, and there are a lot of other people in it, but for every "Cossack" the working people ALWAYS have their own Chapaev! soldier
    1. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 17 February 2018 07: 24
      +5
      Hey Bump! You didn’t forget that it was the Ural Cossacks who defeated the Chapaev headquarters during the Lbischen operation, while the wounded Vasily Ivanovich never sailed from the Urals!
      1. Deck
        Deck 17 February 2018 12: 05
        +5
        How so. Remember who killed the hero and favorite of several generations of Russian people!
    2. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 17 February 2018 08: 25
      +2
      Yeah! "Loved" Vasily Ivanovich Kazakov ...
  38. Klaus
    Klaus 17 February 2018 00: 37
    0
    And yet, it is impossible to unambiguously negatively cut like that from the shoulder in the question of the Cossacks.
    Yes, the history of the Cossack army is full of ambiguous moments: here there are frank raids, and cooperation with False Dmitry I (in the army of Bolotnikov) and False Dmitry II (in Zarutsky), and the same year 1905, and active participation in the Civil War and participation in white and red terror, collaboration in World War II ... There are pages of military glory: these are almost all the wars of the 18,19, 20 centuries, the development of Siberia, the Caucasian War ...
    BUT. I am definitely convinced of one thing: as soon as the Cossacks were given police functions of a punitive nature, it never ended well. And vice versa, when it came to protecting the Fatherland from an external enemy or protecting a restless border, Cossack units were always on top. Therefore, do not step on an old historical rake.
    1. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 17 February 2018 07: 02
      +3
      Never and no one gave the Cossacks any police functions in the Republic of Ingushetia. Cossack units of the regular army, as the most trustworthy, were enlisted for patrol service (the gendarmes did not have their own cavalry units). The Cossacks were not enthusiastic about this service, but they did not discuss orders.
      The role of the “Naygayniks” was deliberately exaggerated by the Trotskyists in the future, but it was necessary to justify the bloody genocide against the Cossacks since 18. . Although the civilian on both sides was approximately equally divided, the Trotskyists were ready to use the services of the Cossacks, but did not consider them their allies. Mironov’s fate is a good example. And even though 100 years have passed since then, the Trotskyist lasts continue to persistently tale the myths about the Nahajniki, now, probably, for self-justification, the cat smells that he has eaten meat!
      1. Deck
        Deck 17 February 2018 07: 36
        +5
        For your piece of land and the royal privileges of any tear. Miss those times?
        In my opinion, comrade Stalin was a very kind-hearted person and in the 30s he didn’t do much







  39. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 17 February 2018 00: 42
    +4
    EMNIP, at Sholokhov SUCH were called casuns. The booth was lit, the Christ-loving people with party cards of that Communist Party ...
  40. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 17 February 2018 00: 48
    +9
    If you want to defend your homeland, go to the Army or the police. Everything else is nonsense, buffoonery and Makhnovism. What is the use of these mummers, hung with invented badges, medals and beards to the navel? How many met these gentlemen - mostly talkers-drunks.
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 17 February 2018 00: 58
      +1
      Not so simple. I lived in the Kuban for some time ... it is a special distinctive culture. But really, one does not have to take on the functions that state authorities have. However, as the people's squads for the protection of order in places of residence - this is quite good and appropriate. Especially in the south of Russia. And in the Caucasus.
  41. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 17 February 2018 08: 23
    +7
    Somehow, at the end of perestroika, I saw Cossacks on a Ural motorcycle with lashes behind their shafts. Looks like they drove when stuck in the mud ... We had a lot of Cossacks in Siberia. After the atrocities of Kolchak and the Americans with the help of the Cossacks, somehow everyone denied this until the time of Gorbach, and then - songs, dances, balalaika and epaulettes. The horses were initially held, but - troublesome in our conditions. Tractors and BMWs are more convenient. In general, there were songs and outfits. With regards to the squads, so on that - the police (police). But for the squads it’s necessary to have a weapon, but it’s okay to allow it, if the historical restorers not only have fuseys, but take away bows with swords ...
    In general - window dressing in one, hanging noodles in another, the way of Ukraine in the third (i.e. Russia overtook Ukraine by a quiet glanders for decommunization for twenty years. What the Ukrainians tried to do abruptly and from the raid, in Russia it was done slowly, imperceptibly, more effectively, under the victorious reports of the local media, such as “Made with us!” and fake cries of disapproval from behind the hill). About "Made with us," you must add: "And the profits - in offshore and in the United States."
    Here you have beautiful postcards. True, mummers are needed everywhere. From Scotland to Shaolin, from the Arctic to India (see the colorful changing of the guard on the Indo-Pakistan border).
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 19 February 2018 10: 59
      0
      Quote: pafegosoff
      Somehow, at the end of perestroika, I saw Cossacks on a Ural motorcycle with whips behind their shafts. Looks like they drove when stuck in the mud ...

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  43. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 17 February 2018 11: 19
    +3
    But Putin is afraid of Cossacks; he doesn’t give weapons! So they hang around near churches, and monasteries as warriors. And they must help the border guards, the police, the Russian guard. This is a real military force.
    1. polkovnik manuch
      polkovnik manuch 17 February 2018 11: 57
      +1
      Believe Brother soon it will be so! The “shift workers” and “effective managers” do not allow GDP to develop yet, too much is “tied” to them so far. Therefore, only GDP should be supported in the elections, and the “purge” will only be different from what they expect in the West, and our pro-Western prokhendey Cossacks will be united very soon, and the security forces in favor of the Cossacks will have to move somewhere!
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 17 February 2018 12: 35
      +5
      Quote: panzerfaust
      And they must help the border guards, the police, the Russian guard.

      and who will work then? Old women and children? The remaining proletariat? Everyone should do his own thing - the military to serve, the police - to guard, the Cossacks, together with everyone - WORK! Everything else is NOT working hours.
      1. pafegosoff
        pafegosoff 5 March 2018 16: 12
        0
        Here I, however, must argue: those who live outside the city (and the majority do) are involved in agriculture and have time to sing, but they don’t get involved with border police because they don’t ask and don’t force them. But in vain! We have a border 55 km from the city. And why don’t they drag past the border guards: Heroin from Afghanistan, Anasha from Kazakhstan, Sharia from the Taliban, all kinds of weapons from many “camps”. Okay, besides the border, you never know what: poachers with modern technology destroy animals and fish to zeros!
  44. Opera
    Opera 17 February 2018 13: 23
    +5
    Truly Russia can be destroyed only from within! This was understood by all our not stupid enemies! In this direction and acted. Now we live really in a very alarming, if not pre-war time. This must be fully understood by Russian people! As soon as the strengthening of the Russian conservative idea begins, the forces healthy and truly traditional for our country, a wild howl from the left political sector immediately rises! Moreover, the howl is truly united and harmonious, despite the difference in the ultimate goal of the left of all stripes. Orthodox church is being built - there is no place to walk with dogs and, in general, priests on Mercedes! Against the blasphemy of Matildov’s teacher’s king of the martyr of the martyr are people - marginalized, tsarebozhniki, sectarians! Almost ready to spit in Poklonskaya with an icon! She is a deputy in the Duma from the most just party (I don’t dare to call them communists, because with all disagreements with this ideology I can’t help but say that for me the Communists are the ones who raised fighters to attack the fighters of the Great Patriotic War - the Communists are ahead) slipped to the point that on TV discusses the alleged physical defects of the heroine of the Crimean Russian spring! The Cossacks are reborn - well, mummers, who else ?! Why is all this happening? Why is all this so hateful to all kinds of "guardians of justice"? Yes, because they do not need Russia as a country! And the Russian people, as a state-forming them, are terrible! And Orthodoxy is not for us opium, it is for them the scourge of God! And the Cossacks, like the Russian estate of warriors - farmers whom you call mummers, made a huge contribution to the preservation of Russia after the collapse of the Union and their blood, as at all times, paid for the very existence of the Power! Lubo Cossacks! Unite and strengthen the Cossack troops! This Russia is only good!
    1. Klaus
      Klaus 17 February 2018 15: 08
      +5
      Then, the Cossacks must become a very influential social force, primarily in their places of residence. In the same Kuban: there are so many problems and dissatisfaction with the same agricultural holdings ... And where are the Cossacks?
      In general, all these efforts to become "registered" sovereign people are essentially an attempt to solicit the state budget ration for maintenance and support. And they immediately came up with a good justification for this case: “edit” dissatisfied fellow citizens at spontaneous rallies.
      Here are just the “rulelers” we already have dofig and more: the police, the Federal Guard, the Federal Security Service, the FSB, the combatants began to organize more ... And everyone should be dressed, shod, equipped, fed, allocated benefits, paid money. And for each structure, it’s necessary to create departments, provide them with premises, special equipment, software, and, of course, put a bunch of big and small bosses there with secretaries, salaries and personal transport ... And all these people still need to be provided with a pension, certainly preferential, and certainly military-style. And these Cossacks want to add to all these “benefits,” as a state structure.
      Only one question arises: who will WORK in Russia?
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 17 February 2018 15: 29
        +4
        Quote: Klaus
        In the same Kuban: there are so many problems and dissatisfaction with the same agricultural holdings ... And where are the Cossacks?

        laborer
        Quote: Klaus
        And they immediately came up with a good justification for this case: “edit” dissatisfied fellow citizens at spontaneous rallies.

        which they currently occupy

        Quote: Klaus
        Here are just the "rulemakers" we already have dofig and more: the police, the Russian Guard, the Federal Security Service, the FSB

        so they want to join their ranks
        Quote: Klaus
        Only one question arises: who will WORK in Russia?

        blacks and asians
      2. Opera
        Opera 17 February 2018 18: 27
        +3
        To become someone it is necessary to go to this. And also remember your history and traditions. Here the whole Russian history, the Cossacks both worked and fought, and in peacetime they worked and served. Cossacks are working now. No less than everyone else. You, Klaus, have such a nice profile picture with an accordion and a cap with a red band, and you talk like a liberal liberal. Therefore, the army is not needed, and the justification is exactly like yours. What Cossacks are there!
  45. kalibr
    kalibr 17 February 2018 16: 21
    +2
    Quote: Sanya Tersky
    As the Cossacks fought, the lines of the letter found in the satchel of the German soldier Alfred Kurtz, who was killed under the Shkurinskaya’s village, testify: “Everything I heard about the Cossacks during the war of the fourteenth year pales before the horrors that we experience when we meet with the Cossacks now. One memory of "It terrifies the Cossack attack and makes it tremble. At night I hallucinate with the Cossacks. Cossacks are some kind of whirlwind that sweeps all obstacles and barriers in our path. We are afraid of the Cossacks as the retribution of the Almighty."

    As for the letter ... Was this German a stupid person or shell-shocked? He did not know that the mail was intercepting defeatist letters, that all correspondence was being monitored by the Gestapo? Hoping to convey with opportunity? But ... where is the guarantee that the opportunity will not give you up. It was impossible to write ... Chernukha in the rear. There was more than one directive from Goebbels and Himmler. And then there was a fighter with the regime ...
    1. Sanya Terek
      Sanya Terek 18 February 2018 02: 49
      0
      Kalibr, I know that letters to the front and back were scanned by military censorship. I did not meet with the soldier Kurtz, therefore I can not judge his mental abilities and physical condition. I also can’t clarify to whom this letter was intended.
      On the Internet there is enough information about letters (diary entries) from the Eastern Front, you can read, there are more panic entries there.
      Or do you think that all this was fabricated by commissars with political officers in order to denigrate valiant fighters against Bolshevism?
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 18 February 2018 12: 29
        +1
        Yes exactly! Read these letters in the newspaper Pravda for 41-45, look at the content and dynamics and you will see it very clearly. It’s not written to denigrate the Germans, but much more to denigrate them, but to encourage our people all this was written. I understand that reading the TRUTH for 4 is hard work. But I’ve read it all, from cover to cover and more than once. By the way, in the MO archive there are many genuine letters from the Germans home ... very different in content. It’s a pity I don’t have the opportunity to get to them and work with them - I don’t know German.
  46. Max bad
    Max bad 17 February 2018 17: 17
    +8
    Cossack walked off into the distance.
    On the chest was a medal:

    "For courage", "For the victory",
    "For a pleasant chat,"
    "For the scientific works"
    "For the protection of the whole environment",
    two astronaut medals,
    Warcraft player order,
    putting the TRP symbol,
    "Passage THAT",
    Pregnancy Club "Crane",
    Wardrobe DK "Hydraulics",
    "Altavista dot com",
    "Society of fungus patients",
    The captain of the game "Zarnitsa"
    "Gomel mental hospital",
    snuffbox, and flint,
    eight caps from beer,
    "Gypsy Dance Festival"
    "Crane operator, work in a helmet!"
    "Beware of the bike,"
    "Thirty-eight Years of Victory"
    Order of the RSFSR,
    secret order "Templar"
    gum liner "Lyolik-Bolik"
    "Anonymous alcoholic",
    "Club of wine connoisseurs",
    Symbol of shit punk,
    SUSE-Linux, Business Tim,
    “Tynda is a twin city”
    "The most experienced driver"
    "The best boar-maker",
    sign "Honorary diver",
    sticker "Putin-"
    Oktyabryatskaya star,
    "The heroine mother of labor"
    blood type, and Ay-Pi,
    and the pacific on the chain.

    Suddenly a Cossack slipped ...
    And medals - herak!
    And now medals are all
    rolled on the highway.

    Kids! Uncles, aunts!
    If you find anywhere:

    Order of Glory, Order of Peace,
    a button with the coat of arms of Algeria,
    bauble, can opener,
    malachite brooch,
    Red Cross, Peter's Cross
    "City of Prague", "City of Brest",
    "Regimental Nurse",
    "Childhood is a wonderful time,"
    Esperanto, CSKA,
    Forester’s personal number
    cufflinks to military uniform
    "The best turner", "Exhaust is normal",
    "Lose weight in five minutes"
    Youth club "Sohnud",
    "KGB", "Honorary Donor",
    “Elena Bonner Private Foundation”,
    "Chechen Fashion Festival",
    ticker fidoshnoj nody -

    even a medal, even a badge
    Share with the Cossack!
  47. 82т11
    82т11 17 February 2018 23: 57
    +3
    On the one hand, it is necessary to unite correctly, and on the other, the Cossacks are just beginning to restore their traditions and customs, there are still many outsiders in our ranks, and this bureaucratization of the movement is alarming.
    And for those who spray poisonous saliva in the direction of the Cossacks, I will simply say:
    When problems started in Ukraine, the Cossacks gathered and went there, and where were you at that time?
    1. Gaersul
      Gaersul 18 February 2018 07: 49
      +4
      Good day to all. I noticed that in VO there are two topics that cause abundant throwing organics. This is the theme of the citizens of Israel and the theme of the Cossacks, a funny coincidence in my opinion. =) However - this is a joke, but now about a serious one. As for the once again raised the topic of the Cossacks, I will say this. Why are many, although not so - some, (because the majority - the Cossacks simply don’t care, in my opinion) are Russian people outraged as soon as it comes to Cossacks? The answer is simple, first of all, as has been noted on the website more than once, indignation is caused by “mummers”, it is from them, for the most part, that various provocative statements of various kinds follow. Somehow: “Only thanks to the Cossacks Russia exists,” “everything that exists in Russia was created by Cossacks,” “Cossacks are a separate nation,” and so on. On the basis of their own statements, they begin to demand all sorts of benefits for themselves, just by the right of a "truly Cossack birth", without hitting a finger on their finger. I want to ask, dear ones, you will not deny that Russian people have a sense of justice (I’m not saying that other peoples cannot have it, we just have it for sure), that those who are not yet spoiled by “Western values Is it an integral part of the soul? And how do you think people should respond to such attacks? Someone, of course, will pass by, and someone will not. Indeed, such words, in fact, cross out any achievements of other ordinary people, the achievements of our scientists, engineers, doctors, teachers, workers and of course the military. Those who built, raised, educated, and there was a need and stood to his death, blocking the path of the enemy, and yes, while these people were not Cossacks, they considered themselves simple Russians. I do not deny the merits of those Russians who consider themselves to be Cossacks and have done a lot for our country, and taught and raised and shed blood the same way, I just think that such people will not separate themselves from the common people, because by birth they are all the Russians. This is where the problem lies, ordinary people do not feel respect for themselves, and from that they reject the “pseudo-Cossacks”.
      PS As for Donetsk and Lugansk, not only the Cossacks went there as volunteers, have respect for those who do not consider themselves Cossacks, but also protected ordinary people.
      1. 82т11
        82т11 18 February 2018 13: 56
        0
        But who argues a lot among the Cossacks of left-wing people who dishonor the title of Cossack.
        Unfortunately, under the USSR, the traditions of the Cossacks were lost. So the old people told me that the Cossacks did not drink. Yes, think for yourself who wants to have an alcoholic's neighbor who has military weapons at home? They were quickly disposed of.
        And as for Ukraine, I did not say that there were only Cossacks, but they were there. So there is nothing to blame for all Cossacks.
        By the way, now any Orthodox is accepted into the Cossacks, join. Let the Cossacks have more normal men and less mummers.
    2. Old warrior
      Old warrior 18 February 2018 18: 45
      0
      Something I did not hear about these glorious warriors near Ilovaisk or in Lugansk. Yes, by the way, what about you?
      1. 82т11
        82т11 19 February 2018 22: 47
        +1
        One of the reasons why he enrolled in the Cossacks, as he learned that volunteers were forming there.
        And why did the Cossacks anger you? What did you crush your favorite dog?
        1. Deck
          Deck 20 February 2018 07: 26
          +1
          And why did the Cossacks anger you? What did you crush your favorite dog?


          Small people, but very noisy! There are one more. but those have their own country. wink
  48. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 18 February 2018 09: 13
    +3
    I’m on average neutral towards Cossacks: they seemed to be nothing like that before the service, they met in the army.
    We arrived in the Kuban to study the radar station (served in the PV), the 3rd outpost of the Novorossiysk Border Detachment, the village of Blagoveshchenskaya, we arrived in the village (I was still a conscript), the Cossacks went to meet each other, we were first given a half-box of “Screwdrivers” (alcoholic cocktail ), later began to understand that there is the Cossacks (for themselves): it’s such a way of life ...
    here in Blagoveshchenka they guarded the recreation area, half drunk, half normal men, in Anapa then they rammed off with Armenians for roofing a taxi at the bus station - they were a purely mafia group, but at the same time, their guys watched the police orderly, police help provided
    in Surgut, where I was born and live, there is a Siberian Cossack army ... a taxi fleet - their paths, Cossacks are almost invisible, there is a hall where their representatives teach hand-to-hand combat ... again, all business, business
    there were Cossack volunteers in Dagestan, yes they served, but among them, the “raiders” were drunk, they always slipped them to us without weapons (like they had to get weapons in battle - they had this kind of punishment), we say: " We have a reconnaissance and search team going out, what the hell is the battle? There’s no such task (that is, most likely there won’t be any battle) - and they: "Accept the fighter for correction, we’re doing one thing" - and what for us in a group of 20-25-year-old guys, a 40-year-old man with a strong hangover and without weapons? - we leave at the guard post, let him then explain to his people as he wants - we will only have a burden
    at the same time, yes, there were Cossacks in reinforcement and at police posts (at KPMakh)
    that is, there are both negative and positive examples, hence the ambiguous attitude towards the Cossacks
    again - Donbass - there were both very worthy representatives of the Cossacks, and those who suddenly merged (Babai)
    but what the Cossacks themselves think so ambiguously is to blame for them - they don’t clean their ranks, they allow many of them to discredit themselves
    it’s their problem that they think so about them, you don’t have to say plain civil that “you think badly of us” —the Cossacks allow you to think about yourself, allow any rabble to dress in the form of a Cossack and walk drunken around the village — I saw a lot of such people in the Black Sea coast, but there I saw normal, fit, going on patrol with the district normal Cossacks. I saw teenagers who are not indifferent to what they are in the Cossacks, they wanted to become better, to benefit the people is good, but I also understand that there are many who just scream “Weak kozak! Yopta” to weaken someone weaker
    discipline among Cossacks is limping on both legs, that’s the reason there are a lot of mummers because of this, even if he is at least a hundred times hereditary, he will remain mumbled, heredity should not be related to the Cossacks in general: they took any Orthodox to the Cossacks, be he even Russian, even Tatar, even gypsy. To baptize (if not baptized), bring order, put into service, control
    this is purely my opinion, do not throw bricks, but rowing everyone under one comb is also a mistake, just if the Cossacks want to look decent in the eyes of the people - let them practice discipline within the organization, do not need to be a Cossack because of their “liberties” - they swore allegiance to the tsar - if you please take the oath, tired, stressed, tired of patrols and other things? need to leave the Cossacks
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 18 February 2018 13: 15
      +2
      I don’t agree with those who poke a finger at a person who, calling himself a Cossack, is really essentially disguised. I don’t agree when the Cossacks are denied in general as a phenomenon, as a layer of the people that has done a lot for Russia. But is there at least some part of our people that is completely flawless? Nobles - there were scoundrels, there were heroes. The army is the same. Is the police the police? There are more than enough different examples. Bourgeoisie? Some of them moved science, art, industry, trade, while others are ready to kill for money. Kings are different. Workers and peasants - some drunk are lazy, others are workers. Churchmen? Some are ready for a feat, others are sitting in warm places. Intelligents? The culture of Russia or traitors and parasites. Where is the part of the people that is completely righteous? No! It's just that everywhere - people, they are different. Cossacks are no different. Therefore, it is sickening to listen when mockery is being addressed to some part of the people. Cossack liberty is not something abstract or robbery. When the country lived under serfdom, the Cossacks were all free. The word "Cossack" actually means "free." Cossacks simultaneously worked for themselves and served. They didn’t come from anywhere. Some were legalized (fugitive to the Don), some were transferred to the Kuban by Catherine from Sich, for many reasons, some were created by the authorities to protect the borders. And, yes - they could accept any person under certain conditions. For example, when the Black Sea line of fortresses was built, the garrisons were from soldiers, and Cossacks settled near the fortresses. In Novorossiysk Stanichka. The name is still not forgotten. In the area of ​​Stanichki landed in February 1943, the landing, then it became the Small Land. My husband's ancestors came by lot. From the middle lane. We drove with their families, with their belongings, to the land, where now and then there were clashes with the Circassians. They founded the village of Dakhovskaya and Hadzhokh (Kamennomostsky). They were attributed to the Cossacks. To break into the valley of Dakh, they descended from the plateau on the ropes-horses, cows, carts. Because they saw a good valley below, but there was no road there. Then they found another great place, but also inaccessible from Dakhovskaya. We made our way in the rocks! They plowed the land, built gardens, cultivated animals. At the same time they defended themselves against the highlanders. They exhibited units for all wars when the state required it. And should their grandchildren forget all this, not be proud of their grandfathers? Our matchmaker is also from the Cossacks, his ancestors founded the village of Tula. No one in our family wears any Cossack clothes, although the matchmaker takes part in Cossack affairs. He is a history teacher at the school and runs a patriotic club. And also many are engaged in the search for the dead. What do we need to forget that we are from the Cossacks? Yes, never!
  49. Old warrior
    Old warrior 18 February 2018 18: 20
    +1
    Fresh tradition, but hard to believe. It would be better if with this money the People’s Militia Division was organized and not one.
  50. Old warrior
    Old warrior 18 February 2018 18: 41
    +2
    The current government "revived" the Cossacks not in order to defend their homeland, and without them there is someone enough. The present "Mummers" are needed so that when the People get this Power, it would be to whom it, this people, to shoot and hang. Because sweet give handouts. I relate to the Cossacks normally: sing there, dance, swing your saber ... only, DO NOT CAPE into Power! There are enough parasites without you.