Donetsk gunsmiths turned the Kalashnikov assault rifle into the ZU-23

Donetsk weapons the masters showed how to shoot a cartridge from the ZU-47 from an ordinary AK-23 assault rifle. The fixture was called "Artem." WarDoc has published a video test of a new type of small arms

The video shows a device - it is a tube that is screwed onto the barrel of the machine gun. There is inserted a large-caliber cartridge from an anti-aircraft installation. Then a blank cartridge with an enhanced charge of gunpowder is sent to the chamber of the machine gun. After that a shot is made.

The effect is like a grenade launcher. A good thing. It is easier for a grenade launcher, and if you work at close range, for example, at a hundred meters, the projectile can be thrown, and it will land after a certain time. That is, it will fall behind the enemy’s back, and will explode after a while, and the enemy may not even hear or see

- said one of the Donetsk militia.

According to the testers, the development is suitable for the destruction of low-flying unmanned vehicles of the enemy, and will also be used in the assault of fortified positions. Unlike the grenade launcher, it has less weight and higher firing accuracy. In addition, at a distance of one hundred meters, the ammunition can be “thrown” along the hinged trajectory into the enemy’s trenches.

Comments

[Santa bear]

New version of trench mortars and rifle grenades. Cheap and cheerful. 100 years on the battlefield

[Black_Vatnik]

Just why the heck is she needed at all? What practical application?
I imagine right now. Fighters went to storm the fort. position. They screwed up this mortar, re-equipped the stores at idle, huh ... Well, nah, better with a "Less accurate" GP, which would not hinder to open fire from an assault rifle if something happened.

[Alexander 3]

In a trench warfare, a good innovation.

[Black_Vatnik]

Yeah, add 2-3 staffers to each squad. Why, if there are already invented and successfully proven products?

[Alexander 3]

We are talking about Donbass militias

[Black_Vatnik]

What is the fundamental difference?
In Donbass, it’s not a militia for a long time, but quite an army.

[Monos]

It seemed to me that immediately after the shot, the shell flew tumbling. Most likely this is due to a breakthrough of gases. It would be necessary to add a copper rim.

[domokl]

The bezel and rifled barrel will require more cartridge reinforcement. judging by the video, everything is at its limit.
For a trench war, it’s quite a normal martirka ... on bezrybe and cancer will become ... Well done

[Dart2027]

Quote: Black_Jacket

What is the fundamental difference?

The fact that they have a powerful defense industry. So get out.

[gerkost2012]

We no longer have gangs of militias. There is the 1st corps of the DPR army and the 2nd corps of the people's militia (army) of the LPR, and even the reserve 3rd. Why people invent such self-propelled guns is understandable. Under the conditions of a trench warfare and the requirement to observe the Minsk nonsense (that is, execute the Order "Do not answer and do not shoot yourself") when OSCE observers look after you, you need to have something in stock not from stock! In order not to answer the question, but to hell do you need it !? And so, in the general noise I fired and all right. And if you still got it, then it's really good!

[Mikado]

Yeah, add 2-3 staffers to each squad. Why, if there are already invented and successfully proven products?

the question is aiming .. so far, as I understand it, this is only possible by eye.

[CooL_SnipeR]

We are waiting for the panoramic sight

[Mikado]

without professional production metrologically, I think no sight will help. Of course, I’m not an artilleryman, and I fired a machine gun for the last time 17 years ago, but still .. The thing, as I understand it, is artisanal, and the range regarding its exact hit will be limited to a few hundred meters. But scare - scare

[gurzuf]

With a shortage of ammunition, then that.

[Dembel77]

Good notion. Only simultaneously with the shot it is necessary to give a volley in the same direction from the city. I think the effect will be even better.

[major147]

Put the expelling charge into the chamber, "bullet" from the memory in place, and attach the store with conventional cartridges. "Bomb" fired, and then everything is as usual.

[domokl]

Quote: major147

"Bomb" shot, and then everything is as usual.

Can jam idle. Judging by the video, the release of the spent cartridge is not guaranteed. So, manually it is necessary to throw out the sleeve .. But it is seconds

[major147]

Maybe. But this is better than nothing.

[Partyzan]

Unlike the under-barrel grenade launcher, it has less weight and higher accuracy.

but can’t shoot cartridges anymore, and two machine guns are already harder

[vredlo]

Well, most likely it can, if you do not insert an evil ammunition, well, or twist this stray to an extreme

[Partyzan]

Quote: vredlo

Well, most likely it can, if you do not insert an evil ammunition, well, or twist this stray to an extreme

But how long will it take to twist and replace the store?

[vredlo]

replacing the store of a second, and twisting is most likely not required, but if you need to agree, it’s better to be a little tormented to shoot from such a stray than to sit and regret that it is not

[Konstantin Yu]

As I understand it, you don’t need to twist anything, changed it to a store with blanks and a mortar, got tired of it, changed it to military and forward .. I think the rate of fire will be ... one has not fallen, the second has gone ..

[Mikhado]

When I read about the cartridge, it was a little swollen. Literacy. This is a projectile!

[Romka47]

An interesting approach, and recently came up with a sniper complex 23 mm "separatist"

[Hurricane70]

From a month ago they showed on tv ... Lately something surfaced in VO ...

[Herculesic]

That's when a mortar will be made from Makarov, then I’ll be truly surprised!

[Blue fox]

It’s unlikely from Makarov, but the Germans made the Kampfpistole an interesting thing from the rocket launcher, and they used them massively, on the slope of the Sinyavinsky heights of caliber grenades, it decently finds search engines in the trenches.

[Blue fox]

The need for inventions is tricky, of course, but the effectiveness of the 23-mm infantry projectile is hardly significant, can it then be better to return to the less secure, but more effective Yugoslav "trombones"?

[Romka47]

Kulibins, war and want creates geniuses.

[beeper]

Apparently there are a lot of gift cartridges for ZUShka and Shilka among the guys to spend them so ineptly?
The fuse of this projectile with such a firing is not “cocked” (to platoon-release the head drummer, even if the protective cup came off the safety copper coil during the start push, the centrifugal force from the rotation of the projectile body in the threaded part of the cannon barrel is also necessary - this is the design of the fuse! ) ", that is, an instant blast of explosives does not occur when meeting an obstacle, especially since such an impromptu mink randomly tumbles in flight and hits the target with its random sideways!
The video clearly shows how, even in the air, the self-liquidator of the projectile works - with such an explosion, the fragmentation and high-explosive effect of the ersatz-mink is practically zero ...

[adma]

A large-caliber cartridge from an anti-aircraft gun is inserted there

There is inserted shell from anti-aircraft installation.
And the question is how such a nozzle will affect regular shooting. The lack of a compensator is not good.

[tracer]

And this is what it is! It is clear that the fragments do not receive acceleration of the velocity of the shells fired from the storage device 23 and, accordingly, have a much less deadly force and radius of destruction (not scattered by centrifugal force). But as a very inexpensive and effective project, it deserves attention. Just "picking" anti-aircraft shells occupation is not at all safe.

[Wolka]

No wonder they say, everything new is well forgotten old ...

[bald]

Well give - no words. You are our kulibins!

[Piramidon]

There is extensive experience in the use of machine guns as air defense systems.
from "Maxim" to "DShK".

[glum]

and uncle bearded in the photo with the chevrons of the Russian Federation and not LDNR. from the military, sold to the right and left the state property , and the wunderwaffle is certainly vech, gunsmiths

[Thunderbolt]

A large-caliber cartridge from an anti-aircraft gun is inserted there

small-caliber projectile.

[kva555]

Small-caliber (only small louse is "s")

[Prutkov]

I liked more how the barrel of the ZU-23 gun for counter-sniper fighting was done. More benefit would be. A kind of trench tool. He would have a normal sight and come up with a horizontal and vertical aiming machine.

[seregatara1969]

and outside on the same tube you can’t plant a mine? will fly too

[APASUS]

Have passed it already:

grenade launcher "Poker" under VOG-25

A handicraft nozzle on an AKS-74U submachine gun for firing idle cartridges of an RGD-5 grenade, the so-called Glass.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

A remake of the Dyakonov grenade launcher.

[Xscorpion]

This "invention" is more than 70 years old. A rifle grenade launcher of 30 mm caliber. The truth went to a caliber of 7,62, and the video is not AK-47 as stated in the text, but AK-74, caliber 5,45. Judging by the appearance it is a grenade launcher BS-1 for special forces, which was just driven by the 5,45 blank cartridge, and which they disassembled and managed to attach to the barrel here, most likely due to the fact that they did not find special mounts in order to place it in a regular place under the barrel .In principle, a 23 mm projectile in length is about the same as a VOG-T grenade. I agree that the standard GP-25 is much more useful than this invention, and reducing the weight by 500-600 grams will not replace the ability to simultaneously fire with automatic fire I’m silent about the fact that here the projectile flies where God sends, and not where it should. During the Chechen wars, the infantry also had inventors who tied RGD-5 grenades with scotch tape to poles in order to throw them at the windows like spears. type so that they are not thrown out the window before the explosion. And to the question, which makes it difficult to shoot the safety bracket in place and wait an extra second before throwing a grenade and throw it out the window so that it explodes almost immediately after arrival, they could not find what to answer.

[Radical]

Quote: Black_Jacket

Just why the heck is she needed at all? What practical application?
I imagine right now. Fighters went to storm the fort. position. They screwed up this mortar, re-equipped the stores at idle, huh ... Well, nah, better with a "Less accurate" GP, which would not hinder to open fire from an assault rifle if something happened.

[Athenogen Clinton]

2 glum. This is not the chevron of the Russian Federation, there is written New Russia.

The people, here are some people who write "fasten the idle shop", but why the shop? It’s enough how to make a video, one shoved and grumbled. Again, this is not a replacement for GP, but an option to expand capabilities))

2 squeak About the "free cartridges for ZUShka": I remember somehow we stumbled over a knoll, I jumped out of our piece of iron to cast, and I see 10-15 shells lying on the ground like that - Zushka’s position was there a month before us. So there were occasionally free gifts))) One shish to find them easier than wogs.

[tracer]

This few people want to understand. This is the army of New Russia. And uses what is usable and accessible. You can pour a lot of water with or without ... They say it was already back and forth. Everything was but what does it change? People are fighting for their land, here and now. And the weapon that really works is more important to them than all of our sofa tips combined.

[LeonidL]

Rationalization worthy of the Ukrian Selyuk - is it really from the lack of normal ammunition for grenade launchers?

[lexx2038]

Well, let's get to the sling. If you train, you can throw far, quickly and generally silently. This is certainly not from a good life.