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The Nation: Russian Olympians demonstrated “a sense of pride”

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The phrase about “Olympic athletes from Russia” should have become an instrument of “collective punishment” for the Russians. As a result, it turned out that in the Korean games only “Russian nationalism” intensified, writes The Nation. The fact is that many Russian spectators came to the Olympic Games, and they demonstrated both a sense of pride and contempt for the IOC.




According to The Nation, at the current Olympics, the audience got acquainted with a new country. It is called OAR. The abbreviation means "Olympic athlete from Russia," translates "InoTV".

“The Nation” indicates that this name for a pair with the Olympic flag instead of the Russian flag should have punished Russia for the “doping program” at the 2014 Winter Olympics of the year.

“The compromise is that we now have“ Olympic athletes from Russia, ”and Russia itself does not. Some very awkward and clumsy situation, ”the material says.

On the ground, according to the authors of the article, everything looks altogether ridiculous. The UAR logo became not a symbol of shame, but reinforced “Russian nationalism”. Russian spectators in Pyeongchang showed both a sense of pride and complete contempt for the International Olympic Committee (IOC). Most countries have hospitality houses, and Russians have a house of sports, and he "became a breeding ground for rampant nationalism." In front of everyone there are dolls, photos of Putin, hats, flags ...

And it turned out that the IOC is not a punishment for the Russians. It turned out a ridiculous farce. The “country” of the UAR did not become an instrument of collective punishment, but inflated the flames of nationalism. International differences also intensified, the authors say.

This farce with the UAR is very much like history International Olympic Committee itself. The fact is that the IOC today is much more disconnecting than unifying. The IOC rose across the path of genuine internationalism.

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Oh yeah. It was international sports, international competitions that were supposed (in theory) to promote friendship among nations and to promote, through team sports, the rapprochement of nations, despite different political systems, troubles in relations and disputes in the UN. But the IOC has become an organization that, on the contrary, pits people.

However, the sport itself has long been a commercial shop, in which athletes compete for microns and milliseconds, and globalist businessmen are cutting the coupons on this.

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  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 15 February 2018 07: 51
    +37
    Forward SKA and the Russian national team Ilya Kovalchuk is confident that the Russians should take part in the 2018 Olympic Games. “We must go there and prove that we are a real Red Car,” Kovalchuk said. - We have pride and honor, patriotism - it is in our hearts, and nobody will take the heart. I believe that we will withstand, and at the end of the Olympics we will pass with our flag. Yesterday they proved ... They saw not a Red car, but a pink scooter.
    1. Logall
      Logall 15 February 2018 07: 53
      +74
      I do not watch this farce - the Olympics ... And I am proud of those who do the same!
      And for the hockey team of Russia I am not ashamed, it is not at these starts! There is no Russian Olympic team at all! There are some athletes with a strange abbreviation - OAR ... Free artists. And their successes, like failures, are the business of their near and dear ones.
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 07: 57
        +15
        Quote: Logall
        I do not watch this farce - the Olympics ... And I am proud of those who do the same!

        belay save electrical energy? repeat I look and cheer for ours .... and believe me when we take bronze in skiing 2 times - tears from happiness in my eyes! ... but you probably don’t deft, I sincerely regret you
        1. Logall
          Logall 15 February 2018 08: 02
          +47
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          I am truly sorry for you

          Pity yourself! It’s your athletes who have no flag, no anthem, no homeland what
          1. svp67
            svp67 15 February 2018 08: 16
            +10
            Quote: Logall
            Pity yourself! It’s your athletes who have no flag, no anthem, no homeland

            Do you think so about the employees of the companies that died in Syria? After all, they are without a flag, anthem, and virtually without a homeland. Even their company, registered not in Russia, but in one of the western countries ... How to deal with this?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 15 February 2018 08: 22
              +11
              Quote: svp67
              Quote: Logall
              Pity yourself! It’s your athletes who have no flag, no anthem, no homeland

              Do you think so about the employees of the companies that died in Syria? After all, they are without a flag, anthem, and virtually without a homeland. Even their company, registered not in Russia, but in one of the western countries ... How to deal with this?

              In both cases, it is a business. All participants make good money on this.
              1. svp67
                svp67 15 February 2018 08: 33
                +2
                Quote: Svarog
                In both cases, it is a business. All participants make good money on this.

                Without a doubt. This is BUSINESS and this is POLICY.
                But you did not answer about your attitude to those who without a flag, anthem, homeland are fighting and dying in the same Syria
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 15 February 2018 08: 58
                  +18
                  In my opinion, you confuse soft with warm. This is not a case to be compared. The Olympics is 100% business and business has been made out of this by a state that does not offer any ideology other than personal enrichment. And at the Olympics, people do not die. People who fight and die in Syria also do it for money, but at the same time they fight and die for the interests of the state, and the interests of the state are primarily the interests of the oligarchs. So it turns out, they are dying for the fact that Miler and Sechin would have had more profit. And my attitude to both cases is negative.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 15 February 2018 09: 05
                    +9
                    Quote: Svarog
                    And at the Olympics, people do not die.

                    They die, even as they die. Professional sports, he does not add much health.
                    1. LSA57
                      LSA57 15 February 2018 09: 35
                      +4
                      Quote: svp67
                      Professional sports, he does not add much health.

                      almost everything retired disabled
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 15 February 2018 09: 37
                        +3
                        Quote: LSA57
                        almost everything retired disabled

                        These are those who live ...
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 February 2018 10: 11
                        +10
                        It was international sport, international competitions that were supposed to contribute to the friendship of peoples and to promote rapprochement of nations through team sports, despite the different political systems, turmoil in relations and disputes at the UN. But the IOC has turned into an organization that, on the contrary, pits peoples.
                        However, the sport itself has long been a commercial shop, in which athletes compete for microns and milliseconds, and globalist businessmen are cutting the coupons on this.

                        First of all, you need to clearly understand what the modern International Olympic Committee (IOC) is like.

                        The IOC is officially an allegedly international non-profit non-governmental organization (NGO) based in Lausanne (Switzerland). It was created by Pierre de Coubertin 23 on June 1894, and Dimitrius Vikelas became its first president.
                        REFERENCE
                        A non-profit organization (NPO) is an organization that does not have a profit as the main goal of its activity and does not distribute the profit received among participants.
                        Officially, the mission and role of the IOC are as follows.
                        The role of the IOC is the leadership of the Olympic movement and the development of the Olympic Games in accordance with the Olympic Charter. The IOC encourages the organization and development of sports and sporting events, and ensures the regular holding of the Olympic Games.
                        The IOC owns all rights to the Olympic Games.
                        BUT! At the same time, the organization of the Olympic Games is not carried out by the IOC, but by the Organizing Committee established in the host country.

                        IOC FINANCE
                        The only source of funding for the IOC is the PRIVATE Sector. Most of the funds come from television companies and sponsors. (However, in business, this private sector may turn out to be “UNFORGETTABLE” —that is, from state special services.) Thanks to these “PARTNERS,” the IOC can significantly help organize the Olympic Games, annual activities of national Olympic committees and international sports delegations, or slow them down ..
                        This, in particular, is facilitated by the significant difference between the IOC and international democratic organizations. Namely.
                        Unlike other international associations, which are formed on the democratic principles of equal representation from each country, the IOC itself elects its members, limiting their number and stubbornly not wanting to include representatives of all recognized National Olympic Committees in its organization. Moreover, according to the Olympic Charter, the members of this organization are not representatives of countries in the IOC, but are considered IOC ambassadors in other countries.
                        Such an anti-democratic principle of the formation of the IOC is in conflict with the democratic nature of the Olympic movement itself.

                        IN OTHER WORDS. The IOC is superstructure, supranational - organizationally PRIVATE business in sports, i.e. PRIVATE add-on over the organization of the international sports movement.
                        Those. The IOC is a private-owned global-business business corporation, with all its consequences. Well, this is something like a private club with its own business policies and internal security.
                        Therefore, in the interests of developing a truly Olympic movement, there is every reason to liquidate the existing private-owned business-IOC and create a new truly international sports organization like the UN.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 February 2018 10: 37
                        +7
                        CAS is also, in essence, an IOC structure.
                        It was the IOC that decided in 1983 to create a sports arbitration court (CAS), and in 1984 its charter was approved, based on the RULES of the IOC itself.

                        Therefore, within the IOC itself, CAS has precisely such jurisdiction that meets the rules established by the corporation of IOC itself.
                        Therefore, it was absolutely illogical on the Russian side to expect ANOTHER decision from the CAS regarding the non-invitation of the Russian athletes to the IOC at the Olympic Games after they were acquitted by the CAS judges on charges of allegedly using doping.
                        There is no question whatsoever of any “PRESSURE” for CAS judges! Everything has been done absolutely exclusively within the framework of corporate rules and attitudes within the IOC itself.
                        I repeat: CAS is not an independent structure from the IOC! This is the internal corporate structure of the IOC itself !!!
                        It is the modern private-owned globalist business-IOC that needs to be disbanded! And create a new IOC, like the UN!
                        And you can not delay with this matter!
                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 15 February 2018 10: 46
                      +4
                      And here is how the IOC was born by the idealist Pierre de Coubertin specifically for amateur sports, but traders and politicians spoiled everything as always.
                    3. BARKHAN
                      BARKHAN 15 February 2018 12: 58
                      +3
                      Quote: svp67
                      They die, even as they die. Professional sports, he does not add much health.

                      And at the same time it has nothing to do with the health of the nation.
                  2. SOF
                    SOF 15 February 2018 09: 49
                    +2
                    Quote: Svarog
                    In my opinion, you confuse soft with warm.

                    ...Yeah....
                    if a colleague confused warm with soft, then of course you did even better ----
                    you put these concepts together
                    Quote: Svarog
                    So it turns out, they are dying for the fact that Miler and Sechin would have had more profit.

                    5 soft + 4 warm = 9 soft ... apupet ... This is the math .......... PATRIOTIC ....
                    1. a housewife
                      a housewife 15 February 2018 10: 51
                      +1
                      It turned out 9 warm soft ... cats ?! wassat
                2. Logall
                  Logall 15 February 2018 09: 04
                  +6
                  Sergey, you mix two different problems! Weren't our military allowed into Syria and they went under the acronym OSR? (Olympic soldier from Russia)
                  But still I’ll answer: I am against private military companies! Mercenaries (otherwise I can’t name them) are fighting for money! And they die for them ... And their "exploits" are not the business of the state, but their relatives and friends.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 15 February 2018 09: 17
                    +2
                    Quote: Logall
                    Weren't our military allowed into Syria and they went under the acronym OSR? (Olympic soldier from Russia)

                    Well, there I’ll not tell you a big secret in other countries, there are OUR people who are not military personnel, but who perform special missions, with a direct threat to their lives.
                    Quote: Logall
                    Mercenaries (otherwise I can’t name them) are fighting for money!

                    Unfortunately, these are the realities of modern life. With the advent of nuclear weapons, they try to wage wars without flags, hymns, and everything else that can directly indicate the homeland of a "mercenary"
                    1. Logall
                      Logall 15 February 2018 09: 29
                      +6
                      Quote: svp67
                      . With the advent of nuclear weapons, they try to wage wars without flags

                      Sergey, in Soviet times, our soldiers fought in different parts of the world under the guise of soldiers from other countries, but PMCs did not smell!
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 15 February 2018 09: 38
                        +3
                        Quote: Logall
                        Sergey, in Soviet times, our soldiers fought in different parts of the world under the guise of soldiers from other countries, but PMCs did not smell!

                        Other times, other methods.
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 15 February 2018 11: 41
                        +2
                        Quote: Logall
                        disguised as military from other countries, but PMC didn’t smell!

                        And what changes from this? Like it or not, but they fought not under their own flag?
                    2. Logall
                      Logall 15 February 2018 10: 18
                      +3
                      Quote: svp67
                      Other times, other methods.

                      Or maybe - other values, other methods!
                  2. midivan
                    midivan 15 February 2018 09: 18
                    +3
                    Quote: Logall
                    But still I’ll answer: I am against private military companies! Mercenaries (otherwise I can’t name them) are fighting for money! And they die for them ... And their "exploits" are not a matter of the state, but their relatives and friends

                    That is, the army is also a mercenary? They are paid monetary allowance, you confuse mercenaries who go to fight for money but not for the interests of their country, our PMCs carry out tasks only in the interests of their country.
                    1. Logall
                      Logall 15 February 2018 09: 25
                      +7
                      The oath is what sets them apart! A soldier swears allegiance to the motherland, and a mercenary - ₽, € ...
                      1. midivan
                        midivan 15 February 2018 10: 00
                        +9
                        Quote: Logall
                        The oath is what sets them apart! A soldier swears allegiance to the motherland, and a mercenary - ₽, € ...

                        The oath did not save our plane, which our officer hijacked abroad, also does not stop the runners and traitors, when he served, he gave the oath, but I never remembered it for the entire service, so I consider it just a formality, the main thing is not the oath to all native, to the Motherland.
                    2. Logall
                      Logall 15 February 2018 10: 24
                      +4
                      Quote: midivan
                      when he served, he gave the oath, but he never remembered her for the entire service

                      What then are you talking about? I swore, I am faithful, I always remember that!
                      I tell my children that I can’t think otherwise - I swore allegiance to my homeland! He was given to her with all the guts (soul and body) ...
                      1. midivan
                        midivan 15 February 2018 10: 53
                        +4
                        Quote: Logall
                        I tell my children that I can’t think otherwise - I swore allegiance to my homeland! He was given to her with all the guts (soul and body) ...

                        In order to be faithful it is not necessary to take an oath, you can take a word that I do not care whether there is an oath or not, I was born in this country and live in it and this is my oath.
                        Quote: Logall
                        What then are you talking about?
                        Got it, I won’t annoy you anymore smile as I understand it on all topics and in general hi
                    3. Logall
                      Logall 15 February 2018 11: 40
                      +3
                      Quote: midivan
                      I will not annoy you anymore

                      Man, I didn’t want to upset! Probably very sharply expressed ... Sorry, to blame.
                      Quote: midivan
                      you can take my word for it whether it makes me an oath or not, I was born in this country and live in it, and this is my oath.

                      I agree completely! Once again I apologize - I get it! drinks
                      1. midivan
                        midivan 15 February 2018 12: 14
                        +3
                        Quote: Logall
                        Man, I didn’t want to upset! Probably very sharply expressed ...

                        smile Yes no, not a bit upset, just took note drinks
                        Quote: Logall
                        Once again I apologize - I get it!

                        Oh well, not so scary drinks
              2. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 11: 35
                0
                Quote: Svarog
                In both cases, it is a business. All participants make good money on this.

                like many paid local characters!
                1. Logall
                  Logall 15 February 2018 11: 47
                  +2
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  many paid local characters!

                  Who! Please indicate!
            2. midivan
              midivan 15 February 2018 08: 46
              +3
              Quote: svp67
              Do you think so about the employees of the companies that died in Syria? After all, they are without a flag, anthem, and virtually without a homeland. Even their company, registered not in Russia, but in one of the western countries ... How to deal with this?

              belay....... It’s easy to be with this, and the comparison is by no means.
              1. svp67
                svp67 15 February 2018 09: 06
                0
                Quote: midivan
                It’s easy to be with this, and the comparison is by no means.

                That is, we pardon these, but execute them ... the main thing is not to be confused with the lists, although you can’t even bother with this logic, it’s always possible in the spirit of this logic to simply say: “I didn’t send you there”
                1. midivan
                  midivan 15 February 2018 09: 13
                  +5
                  Quote: svp67
                  That is, we pardon these, and execute them ...

                  I personally respect some, and despise others.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 15 February 2018 09: 17
                    0
                    Quote: midivan
                    I personally respect some, and despise others.

                    "I did not send you there"
                    1. midivan
                      midivan 15 February 2018 09: 27
                      +4
                      Quote: svp67
                      "I did not send you there"

                      "I did not go there" wassat Yes, I have a strange morning today, not clear smile Do you really think that GDP created this company in order to abandon them at home? I really didn’t understand yours, I didn’t send yours, but by the way I’m starting to guess, I suppose you are lurking inside those who answered you or your friends with this phrase after Afghanistan and the Caucasus, this is not the case.
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 15 February 2018 09: 40
                        +2
                        Quote: midivan
                        Do you really think that GDP created this company in order to abandon them at home?

                        Do you really think that the GDP gave the green light to the trip of our athletes to the Olympics and apologized to them, for the miscalculations of the State, that they would refuse them at home?
                        Professional athlete is the same soldier
                    2. midivan
                      midivan 15 February 2018 10: 35
                      +3
                      Quote: svp67
                      Do you really think that the GDP gave the green light to the trip of our athletes to the Olympics and apologized to them, for the miscalculations of the State, that they would refuse them at home?

                      I didn’t say anything or think about “I didn’t send you there” these are your words, but I think that I had no right to ban or force the GDP, democracy no matter how, freedom of choice yes
                      PS I am writing here, and below on the "answer" throws to the top, does anyone know why this happens and quite often?
            3. the most important
              the most important 15 February 2018 11: 04
              +2
              Quote: svp67
              svp67 Today, 08: 16 New
              Quote: Logall
              Pity yourself! It’s your athletes who have no flag, no anthem, no homeland
              Do you think so about the employees of the companies that died in Syria? After all, they are without a flag, anthem, and virtually without a homeland. Even their company, registered not in Russia, but in one of the western countries ... How to deal with this?

              In this case, my opinion personally and I do not impose it on anyone, those who fight and die in Syria are real heroes, because they were stripped of their flag and homeland, but they stood up and went to die for the interests of their country, for their people. for your homeland !!!
            4. private person
              private person 16 February 2018 15: 40
              0
              Do not confuse a genital organ with a finger. PMCs are people who deliberately go to war to earn money on this flag and they do not need a hymn who pays and sets tasks. Athletes at the Olympic Games are the face of the country for which they are speaking, “ours” have neither a flag nor an anthem. So which country are these athletes?
          2. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 08: 33
            +3
            Quote: Logall
            It’s your athletes who have no flag, no anthem, no homeland

            change the training manual!
            1. Logall
              Logall 15 February 2018 09: 08
              +4
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              change the training manual!

              But in fact ...?
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 10: 37
                +1
                Quote: Logall
                But in fact ...?

                but in fact those who deprived us of everything are now furious because we are taking medals in this line-up - all the stands in our flags and Russian songs in stadiums !!!!
                1. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 15 February 2018 11: 16
                  +5
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  about we in this composition take medals

                  So after a couple of years they will be taken away (the tubes are scratched) ...
                  Or even earlier, all the achievements of the athletes will be reset. Occasion? Yes Easy! Fans, flags, song "Katyusha".
                  And we will continue to flow around ...
                  And then tears, drooling, snot from athletes ...
                  1. Tiksi-3
                    Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 11: 18
                    0
                    Quote: BecmepH
                    And we will continue to flow around ...

                    it's you to yourself!
                    1. BecmepH
                      BecmepH 15 February 2018 11: 42
                      +2
                      Quote: Tiksi-3
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      And we will continue to flow around ...

                      it's you to yourself!

                      But essentially something to say? And then, when there is nothing to say, they become personal.
                      No arguments, be silent, do not stoop to insults.
                2. private person
                  private person 16 February 2018 15: 41
                  0
                  And who waves the flags and sings these songs?
          3. LSA57
            LSA57 15 February 2018 09: 37
            +7
            Quote: Logall
            These are your athletes

            these are not our athletes. OUR athletes have both a flag and an anthem. and those in Korea are homeless
          4. AlexVas44
            AlexVas44 15 February 2018 09: 43
            +1
            Quote: Logall
            ... athletes have neither a flag nor a hymn ...

            So there is no gold, why a flag and an anthem. tongue
        2. Winnie76
          Winnie76 15 February 2018 08: 28
          +7
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          save electrical energy? I look and cheer for ours .... and believe me when we take bronze in skiing 2 times - tears from happiness in my eyes! ... but you probably don’t deft, I sincerely regret you

          Oh how. And you still cheer for Dima Bilan with tears in his eyes at Eurovision. He tried so hard and for him this is the only chance in life. The Olympics turned into a show. Now this is wrestling. All bumps and bruises are not real.
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 09: 01
            +2
            Quote: Winnie76
            The Olympics turned into a show. Now this is wrestling. All bumps and bruises are not real.

            fool that's because of people like you - partiots who attack us from all sides !!!
            1. rotmistr60
              rotmistr60 15 February 2018 09: 17
              +10
              Tiksi-3
              that's because of people like you - partiots who attack us from all sides !!!
              Your logic is strange. A person rightly notes that athletes without a flag, anthem, mention of the country and under an incomprehensible abbreviation actually represent themselves. And you (whom?) Is due to "such" attack. Cry at the TV - it's up to you. By the way, did you cry yesterday after hockey or what?
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 11: 24
                +2
                Quote: rotmistr60
                Cry at the TV - it's up to you. By the way, did you cry yesterday after hockey or what?

                I’m proud of all the athletes, and my tears of joy are what you call patriotism, forgive me, but you, like you, let up a blood in the open spaces of the Russian Empire, and now they have climbed out of all the cracks and persecuted our athletes, like they no longer ours and not athletes at all, the eternal shame on all of you who consider our athletes to be homeless and not citizens of the Russian Federation should be ashamed of you - the near-by pseudo-patriots pouring mud on our representatives. I am very pleased and proud that you are a meager minority in our society and I will be glad that all of your former idols will be plugged into your mouth with your sports performance. Ugh on you all three times!
            2. Stanislas
              Stanislas 15 February 2018 11: 10
              +5
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              that's because of people like you - partiots who attack us from all sides !!!
              Because of the patriots, the country is being attacked, that’s true, but because of the liberal globalists they have it. You have made your choice, but no one is obliged to respect it; better attack.
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 15 February 2018 09: 46
          +6
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          I look and cheer for ours ..

          don't you have a homeland either? no flag? no anthem? you are probably a person living in Russia? and what are they ours? OUR has a Flag, Anthem. and is called the Team of the Russian Federation. and YOUR anthem is probably Russia is our neutral power? I don’t feel any pride for the homeless team
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 11: 28
            0
            Quote: LSA57
            don't you have a homeland either?

            Homeland is a state that I respect, no!
            Quote: LSA57
            no flag?

            my flag is the flag of the USSR and it is already gone!
            Quote: LSA57
            no anthem?

            I have not had a hymn since 1991

            Quote: LSA57
            I'm proud of the homeless team

            only you and your hometowns are here, if you consider Ustyugov, Shipulin (they wouldn’t be allowed to go, but they would go), Kovalchuk, Medvedev and the rest of the homeless people - you just need to shut up
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 15 February 2018 11: 39
              +5
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              only you and your singers are homeless, if you consider Ustyugov, Shipulin (they weren’t allowed, but they would go),

              like homeless people without a flag and anthem. when a military unit loses a flag, it is disbanded. these without a flag, so they have nothing to do with Russia.
        4. raw174
          raw174 15 February 2018 10: 32
          +7
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          I look and cheer for ours.

          I don’t look either, I agree with Logall. Russia is not at the Olympics. People went and this is their right, but they are not representatives of my country.
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          and you’re probably not smart

          But I do not care, they won - well done, they earned a medal for themselves.
          You feel proud and this is also your right and opinion, we just have slightly different views, and we are all right, each in his own way ...
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 10: 35
            0
            Quote: raw174
            People went and this is their right, but they are not representatives of my country.

            Or maybe you are not a representative of the Russian Federation?
            1. raw174
              raw174 15 February 2018 10: 49
              +4
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              Or maybe you are not a representative of the Russian Federation?

              At this time, I do not represent my country outside its borders; during the service I represented, proudly wore the flags of the Russian Federation, Tricolor and Andreevsky.
              1. Tiksi-3
                Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 11: 30
                0
                Quote: raw174
                proudly wore the flags of the Russian Federation, Tricolor and Andreevsky.

                where did you wear what you're lying - still say wake up in the morning and sing the anthem before breakfast
                1. raw174
                  raw174 15 February 2018 12: 16
                  +3
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  what are you lying

                  I urge you to communicate kindly. We are not familiar, and therefore no need to be rude.
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  where wore

                  On the chevron, in the city, the hero of Sevastopol, as well as at festive events (he was in the banner group). At that time it was Ukraine. We went to layoffs, naturally in uniform, proudly demonstrating the insignia of the Russian Navy on the PS.
                  Quote: Tiksi-3
                  still say woke up in the morning and sang a hymn before breakfast

                  No, they sang the anthem at festive events, including on May 9th. The Ukrainians sang their own, and we our own, because we stood shoulder to shoulder ...
                  1. Tiksi-3
                    Tiksi-3 18 February 2018 08: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: raw174
                    On the chevron

                    and a handkerchief in my pocket was in a tricolor ...... pah three times
      2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 15 February 2018 08: 04
        +10
        Quote: Logall
        There are some athletes with a strange abbreviation - OAR ...

        I had to write ROA on them
      3. kapitan92
        kapitan92 15 February 2018 08: 11
        +24
        Quote: Logall
        I do not watch this farce - the Olympics ... And I am proud of those who do the same!

        I support you! good I was against the performance of our Olympians without a flag, anthem and uniform.
        This is a political farce and party!
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 15 February 2018 19: 25
          0
          This method is very suitable for the Russian national football team! It is a pity that only one plus can be officially given, but unofficially +++++. smile hi
      4. bald
        bald 15 February 2018 08: 15
        +9
        But I fully support you - it wasn’t a fig to go there at all. On the one hand, I understand athletes - training for years. And on the other ... it’s better to keep silent - like beggars.
      5. dva36
        dva36 15 February 2018 08: 54
        +6
        I fully support. I do not look at these business traders. With the same success, they can speak for another country, there is simply no such opportunity so far. Today the commentator on the Russia channel was especially pleased. What a victory for a German couple in figure skating, what a victory. To make it clear a mixed Russian-German couple. How much she had to endure, a change of citizenship, etc. etc. Just scum. Ivanes who do not remember kinship.
        1. Mimoprohodil
          Mimoprohodil 15 February 2018 10: 46
          0
          She is not Russian, but Ukrainian
      6. Berber
        Berber 15 February 2018 09: 14
        +6
        In sport, there is a concept - biased refereeing. Sambo textbooks, dating back to the Soviet era, have exercises with biased refereeing. The main principle - you need to fight to the end, despite the conditions. The fact that our athletes, despite the pressure, went to the Olympics, is consistent with this principle. It was easier to be offended by the whole world and not go, but this is not right. Now Russians are not winning medals at the Olympics - the hearts of normal people around the world.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 15 February 2018 11: 29
          +1
          Quote: BerBer
          The main principle - you need to fight to the end, despite the conditions.
          The question is not whether to fight or retreat, but what to fight for: for one’s sports career and income - this is one thing, and for the country's sports honor - it’s another. If the NHL team went to the Olympics, and Ovechkin scored a goal against Belarus, would you be very happy? I am not.
          1. Berber
            Berber 15 February 2018 12: 20
            +1
            Let's be honest. Athletes work face of the country. Their career is short and difficult. Money is one of the incentives, but not the first and not the only one. Sport is hard work that must be adequately paid, otherwise there will be no results. Again, do not row all under one comb. Athletes are people, and people are different.
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 15 February 2018 19: 29
              +2
              Sport is hard work that must be adequately paid, otherwise there will be no results.
              And let's hold the championship of turners, and the Olympics seamstress! Also, hard work does not bring much health, moreover, it is also not paid adequately!
              1. S-kerrigan
                S-kerrigan 16 February 2018 09: 09
                0
                So spend it, who's stopping you? Organize, go ahead!
                1. sharp-lad
                  sharp-lad 16 February 2018 19: 13
                  0
                  I didn’t do it myself, but participated when I was at the manufacturer’s courses on boiler burners “Giersch”. I got R 20. By the way, the competition turned out to be international, as there were representatives of Latvia, Lithuania and Russian Kaliningrad.
              2. Berber
                Berber 16 February 2018 11: 10
                0
                And what are we discussing, dear. Twist essentially or explain your set of words.
      7. LSA57
        LSA57 15 February 2018 09: 32
        +6
        Quote: Logall
        There are some athletes with a strange abbreviation - OAR ...

        from internet
        DO NOT SELL THE HOMELAND, GUYS!
        Until we lost what is holy
        In the name of those who have not come from war,
        Don't Sell Homeland Guys!
        That medal of such a price is not worth it!

        Everything in the world is changeable and perishable.
        The time has come for the “five rings”.
        The ideals of Coubertin are forgotten.
        The Golden Taurus rules everywhere.

        Like a booth, on a cheap stage,
        Where the devil rules the flesh
        You are brazenly lowered to your knees
        And they demand to crawl in humiliation!

        For them, both lies and truth - all are one!
        And the game will be against the rules.
        You believe in a fair fight
        And at the table, on the contrary - a cheater!

        They will greet you at the entrance,
        Smeared with black mud - for the eyes.
        They have a speckled deck in their hands
        And in each sleeve - two aces.
        Embittered, wretched and stooped,
        Europe is all chronically ill:
        On behalf of "Russia" reduces cheekbones,
        And rabid saliva drips.

        Once again, the "chosen race" wins,
        Opponents squeezed in a vice.
        And pieces of live meat are jumping ...
        Stuffed with dope pieces.

        The "elect" have the Right, there is no Prohibition.
        Did not work out? You can repeat it!
        And as an example - the relay!
        Everything as usual! What is there to talk about?

        You can go. Your right.
        Decide for yourself - to be or not to be.
        But know that today is the Honor of the Power
        It’s easier for you to drop than to protect.

        And you have already created the conditions,
        To nullify your hard work.
        And if you get the medals,
        Not the fact that they will not be taken away later.
        Until we lost what is holy
        In the name of those who have not come from war,
        Don't Sell Homeland Guys!
        That medal of such a price is not worth it!

        Sports combat always calls to the screen.
        And glory to those who won the battle!
        But I won’t watch these games
        Here they humiliate my homeland.

        Vera Romashova
      8. vlad66
        vlad66 15 February 2018 09: 56
        +8
        Quote: Logall
        I do not watch this farce - the Olympics ... And I am proud of those who do the same!

        Thank you, Alexander drinks hi Absolutely also, who does not have a flag and coat of arms, he does not have a country, who has a country, he is a real athlete and citizen. drinks
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        tears of happiness in my eyes! ...

        Yes, cry for health, maybe you remember a song in the movie about Budulaya: - "We do not need to feel sorry, because we did not spare anyone either." We have both the flag and the coat of arms and the Motherland, unlike the UAR. yes
      9. antivirus
        antivirus 15 February 2018 11: 01
        0
        my brain was only enough for a small conclusion:
        kept a pause in response to suspension from the games due to a search for someone to “sell-pass” medals (approx understandable by the strength of our athletes in the season 17-18gg).
        Honor from medals (they were forbidden to conquer the Russian Federation) - against money from sold places on the “pedestal”.
        I wanted to "conquer" North America.
        Russia "agreed" with Europe?
        It started back in Salt Lake City.
        And on the next we will also be “friends” against partners from overseas
        I won’t be surprised if articles on the weakness of winter sports in Sev Am versus good sports in Europe appear (according to the results of OI18).
      10. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 15 February 2018 12: 19
        +4
        Quote: Logall
        I do not watch this farce - the Olympics ...

        And what, is the Olympics taking place somewhere now? request
      11. lis-ik
        lis-ik 15 February 2018 18: 04
        0
        Quote: Logall
        I do not watch this farce - the Olympics ... And I am proud of those who do the same!
        And for the hockey team of Russia I am not ashamed, it is not at these starts! There is no Russian Olympic team at all! There are some athletes with a strange abbreviation - OAR ... Free artists. And their successes, like failures, are the business of their near and dear ones.

        I adhere to the same position, I managed to push this position even at work, now we look at everything except the “athletes”.
      12. DPN
        DPN 16 February 2018 08: 00
        0
        That's right, only the Russians pay for it, and not those who have an anthem and a banner in their heads and hearts.
    2. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 15 February 2018 07: 57
      +2
      Gold mining in Korea Until we get along, But comforting our souls warms: We produce oil and gas!
    3. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 15 February 2018 07: 57
      +16
      This is not the Olympics but the humiliation of Russia.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 15 February 2018 10: 09
        +3
        Some vehemently seek any excuse to announce the next "humiliation of Russia."
        Running around in crowds of news sites. and desperately. selflessly comment on how we are doing badly, once again.
        And only sane citizens shrug their shoulders, and reading all this recall the Russian proverb:
        "The pig will find dirt"
      2. raw174
        raw174 15 February 2018 10: 35
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        This is not the Olympics but the humiliation of Russia.

        There is no humiliation here! They crap little by little, but it’s not worth talking about humiliation. They can’t take it by force, the economic war plan also does not give the desired results, so they decided to go through sports ...
        1. S-kerrigan
          S-kerrigan 16 February 2018 09: 13
          0
          There is no humiliation here!

          As long as there are those who think "we were humiliated," it turns out that we were humiliated.
          Well done on the contrary, they don’t give a damn about the wheels and they, contrary to all problems, are engaged in what they are obliged to do. Difficulties temper.
    4. Inquisitive
      Inquisitive 15 February 2018 08: 02
      +17
      Professional Sport as a competition has died, now it is more like a business, a show and a competition of pharmacologies and all this is intertwined with politics.
      I personally came to the conclusion and basically do not watch TV broadcasts from the Olympics, Guberniev looks like a joyful pathos fool with an aplomb for 60 minutes, a man justifies his foreign trip for a good salary. I recall the words about shame and war, here we chose shame and rake in full in the war against asthmatics and athletes with a lack of communication. Bent over once, will bend constantly.
      Fresh case: Bach meeting with our athletes. Why did they even come to this meeting? It was necessary to stupidly boycott and ignore this ghoul under the guise that there is no time for empty talk, we are preparing for competitions, communicate with officials.
      This is not a competition for the country with tears on a pedestal under the flag of the country under the anthem, but earning money ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 February 2018 08: 08
        +6
        Sport as it was, part of life and our people, and the truth died.
        There is a commercial show, a competition of pharmacologies and other delights of the present world .... not interesting, I do not watch!
    5. zivXP
      zivXP 15 February 2018 08: 05
      +3
      Yesterday they proved ... They saw not a Red car, but a pink scooter.

      This means nothing. This is a sport, and here everything happens. When a sharp start, it is often a disastrous finish. And vice versa. So you just need to cheer for ours, if the team has motivation, there will be a result.
      1. RUSOIVAN
        RUSOIVAN 15 February 2018 08: 11
        +4
        I don’t look, but I worry.
      2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 15 February 2018 08: 13
        +8
        Quote: zivXP
        So you just need to cheer for ours, if the team has motivation, there will be a result.

        In the Red Car, everyone lay under the puck, fought without sparing their health. The UAR played five minutes (and they were very lucky with goals), and then they skated and flaunted around the court. Here is the result. The wives of the Red Car did not go to the Olympics. Before the tournament, we were sitting at hard training camps, and there was a result.
        1. zivXP
          zivXP 15 February 2018 08: 52
          0
          Now there is democracy, and in sports too. (if something is sarcasm)
      3. rocket757
        rocket757 15 February 2018 09: 45
        0
        The motivation is different! Unfortunately, the one for which the RED MACHINE was rolling forward was lost in the past .... but for the buck, let it go, although in fact they are pink in red. It’s a pity, besides our beautiful ladies, I was rooting for our hockey players, always!
    6. Svarog
      Svarog 15 February 2018 08: 20
      +5
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Forward SKA and the Russian national team Ilya Kovalchuk is confident that the Russians should take part in the 2018 Olympic Games. “We must go there and prove that we are a real Red Car,” Kovalchuk said. - We have pride and honor, patriotism - it is in our hearts, and nobody will take the heart. I believe that we will withstand, and at the end of the Olympics we will pass with our flag. Yesterday they proved ... They saw not a Red car, but a pink scooter.

      Yes, they perform mediocre even in figure skating. The sport that Mutko built is too corrupt, that's why it is. But Mutko went on increasing. Here the guarantor built the system.
      1. kuznec
        kuznec 15 February 2018 09: 31
        +1
        Vladimir, here’s a muddy fact:
        "Mutko, in 1999, while serving as president of FC Zenit, without interruption from work he graduated from St. Petersburg State University in absentia. He defended his diploma on the topic:" Crimes of duty by the example of sports events. "
        As they say, neither diminish nor add. It can be seen wisely studied the topic thoroughly.
    7. Hariton laptev
      Hariton laptev 15 February 2018 08: 54
      +3
      well, nothing but everyone will show us how, smearing their snot and making gloomy faces, they will tell how difficult it was to train in anticipation, how they were pressed, and how hard it was. And that we all must pity and understand them.
    8. Ascetic
      Ascetic 15 February 2018 09: 57
      +4
      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
      Yesterday they proved ... They saw not a Red car, but a pink scooter.

      If the Americans slap tomorrow, then the comments will be different ... On the whole, I agree with the old “red car” that nothing is left of the word at all, even if they win the gold my opinion will not change. I personally saw the game of the legendary USSR national team of the 70-80s, its great three Mikhailov-Petrov-Kharlamov, and Makarov-Larionov-Krutov now and close to nobody nethockey turned into a run, there is no technique or a whirl of combinations from which the opponent has a head around, dull a sight ...
    9. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 15 February 2018 11: 58
      0
      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
      Yesterday they proved ... They saw not a Red car, but a pink scooter.

      And in the general medal standings today we have a proud 14th place ...
    10. Andrey K
      Andrey K 15 February 2018 12: 13
      +9
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      ... SKA and Russian national team striker Ilya Kovalchuk is confident that Russians should take part in the 2018 Olympic Games ...

      I will express my own opinion exclusively.
      There is a state. It is called - Russia. For various reasons, I will not go deeper, we lost the competition - "who will pour more dirt and make scum." The result - they walked through us legally, forbidden to call ourselves who we are, to use symbols - flag, coat of arms.
      Who is a man without a homeland and a flag? That's right - homeless.
      I would not want my Homeland to be represented at the Olympics.
      Ilya Kovalchuk - la-la-la ... This is the work of Kovalchuk.
      He trained at our expense, grew up to an athlete. When it was required to make a strong-willed decision - in response to the dirt, to show integrity and abandon this near-sports farce, such Kovalchuk forgot everything and remembered that they "went all this life" ... Vile.
      They say that the generation is different, the priorities have changed.
      Yes, no hell like that. Look at this kid:
      Evgeny Rodionov, he was required to do something "just nothing" - remove the cross. I didn’t take it off, I lost my head. He didn’t remember that he had spent his whole life ...

      Or look at the Buryats Bato Dashidorzhieva, scout from the 71st motorized rifle regiment.
      He did not think about his own skin - Honor, Flag and Homeland for such a thing, really not an empty phrase. One went out against the Georgian military convoy, did not retreat, was not frightened, withstood - he won!

      I don’t watch this shame, I just don’t want to see and hear about some lunatic country and its athletes OAR, Olympic Athlete from Russia.
      It is up to the athletes to go there or not. There are those who refused. And I am proud of their decision.
  2. Loess
    Loess 15 February 2018 07: 51
    +5
    On the ground, according to the authors of the article, everything looks completely ridiculous. The UAR logo was not a symbol of shame, but reinforced "Russian nationalism."
    Both IOC and WADA are waiting for hard times. This is just the beginning, they will regret their vileness more than once.
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 08: 00
      +2
      Quote: Less
      more than once they will regret their meanness.

      Yes, not meanness is how you do not understand? - this is politics, and when we went under sanctions with our heads proudly raised (everything related to the outskirts) - we had to understand what would fly from all sides - I was ready for such Olympics ... and I think the World Cup will suit us again .. .
      1. midivan
        midivan 15 February 2018 08: 55
        +2
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        and when we walked under sanctions with our heads held high

        We could not even think that ours would be "shot" in the back.
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 11: 31
          0
          Quote: midivan
          We could not even think that our people would be "shot" in the back

          a lot of YOU shot in the back? what are you talking about?
          1. midivan
            midivan 15 February 2018 11: 54
            +3
            Quote: Tiksi-3
            a lot of YOU shot in the back?

            Allegory request
            Quote: Tiksi-3
            what are you talking about?

            Light and democracy wassat
    2. midivan
      midivan 15 February 2018 08: 59
      +2
      Quote: Less
      Both IOC and WADA are waiting for hard times. This is just the beginning, they will regret their vileness more than once.
      Yeah, so it’s already written in Sportloto? Well hold on WADAMOKS !!! wassat But seriously, well, share it already if you have something, but somehow you can’t believe in justice already.
      1. Loess
        Loess 15 February 2018 09: 15
        +1
        I have repeatedly expressed my opinion, you can look in the profile if you are interested. I don’t see any reason to repeat myself, as some say that like a mantra every day “I watch olympiaduetenashisportsmen”, and not a single new thought.
        1. midivan
          midivan 15 February 2018 09: 31
          +1
          Quote: Less
          I have repeatedly expressed my opinion, you can look in the profile if you are interested.

          That would be enough smile
          Quote: Less
          I see no reason to repeat myself

          I support, because I myself hate repeating myself. hi
    3. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 15 February 2018 09: 37
      0
      Vangue or promise?
      1. Loess
        Loess 15 February 2018 09: 43
        +1
        Hmm ... I predict based on Russia's foreign policy over the past decade.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 15 February 2018 11: 31
          +1
          Quote: Less
          Hmm ... I predict based on Russia's foreign policy over the past decade.

          I'd like to believe in your predictions. But they take doubts ... until we stop apologizing.
          I don’t want to argue. I take your opinion quite seriously. But...
          1. Loess
            Loess 15 February 2018 11: 51
            0
            Quote: BecmepH
            Until we stop apologizing.

            Politics, among other things, is also a game for the public. Do you think that Western politicians like tolerance and LGBT? I doubt it. Do you think they have a real concern for human rights? Nope. they don’t care about them. here we are. We say what is expected of us and quietly, without noise, we do what we need. By "us" I do not mean specifically you and me, but the interests of the state. somewhere it turns out, somewhere not really, but we are bending our line.
            1. BecmepH
              BecmepH 15 February 2018 13: 44
              +1
              Quote: Less
              somewhere it turns out, somewhere not really, but we are bending our line.

              You are an optimist. This is probably good. Stay like that.
              A year ago, I was the same optimist. But, unfortunately, I am becoming a realist. The angle of view has changed. Including under the influence of VO. More precisely, the forum participants. Thanks to everyone.
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 15 February 2018 07: 51
    0
    Scary is WE are still harnessing.
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 15 February 2018 08: 01
      0
      Quote: Teberii
      Scary is WE are still harnessing.

      yes no .... they have harnessed and for a long time .... we listen to our bureaucrats from sports!
    2. Inquisitive
      Inquisitive 15 February 2018 08: 08
      +2
      Quote: Teberii
      Scary is WE are still harnessing.

      They harnessed us to the tacit approval of our bureaucrats from the sport, shaking for their seats with large salaries, business trips and drunkards with caviar in the Russian House.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 February 2018 07: 57
    +8
    My opinion is that the IOC did not manage to “humiliate” Russia. Rather, the gates were smeared with tar. Our athletes came to meet with Bach. It was necessary to ignore, even if there were journalists and masseurs sitting ...
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 15 February 2018 08: 20
      +2
      Bach himself came and cried how unpleasant (in his heart) he was doing Russian filth. I am afraid our again will "enter" the situation.
      1. Cetron
        Cetron 16 February 2018 00: 43
        0
        Get on your knees and still shout lol
  5. XII Legion
    XII Legion 15 February 2018 08: 05
    +15
    Let them demonstrate
    To do this, their state and raised
  6. Altona
    Altona 15 February 2018 08: 06
    +4
    You read the news, the Russian team. Turn on the TV-en no, some kind of OAR. I do not watch JOI.
  7. HAM
    HAM 15 February 2018 08: 16
    +2
    The only way to treat all these IOCs, WADA, etc., is to file lawsuits in all possible courts, seeking MATERIAL compensation from them. All these officials live too sweetly and understand only the language of banknotes. Take the ECHR - without a contribution from Russia, spun around like in a pan. The more claims from Russian athletes, the more affectionate Bach will be.
    Lost profit - this is clear to everyone ...
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 15 February 2018 08: 37
      +3
      Sometimes I think that the organization of parallel Olympiads in Sochi would be the proper answer, since all the necessary things remained there from the past. The liberals and defenders of our embezzlers immediately begin to scream, and who will come, like with whom to compete. I am sure that almost everyone will come except for those killed by Russophobia.
      1. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 15 February 2018 09: 40
        +1
        Well, of course. We have not just a lot of money, but MUCH!
        At VO they already wrote how the parallel pair of Olympic games were held.
    2. helmi8
      helmi8 15 February 2018 09: 35
      +4
      Quote: HAM
      The more there will be claims from Russian athletes

      Only it is necessary to sue not to the IOC and WADA (this is about anything), but to specific people guilty of not admitting to the OI - McLaren, Oswald and this whole gop company. Claims for defamation, racial discrimination (they didn’t even let the “clean” because they came from Russia, which means “could”), an insult to honor and dignity. And to pay attorneys and courts oblige Mutko and Zhukov.
      Well, the reasoning on the topic "an athlete has been preparing for the Olympics all his life and dreams, you need to go!" - This is a ride on the ears. Getting ready - yes, dreaming - yes. But to go when you are humiliated - it depends on patriotism and a sense of pride in the country. Or it is, or you go. Nurbagandov and Filippov also dreamed of becoming generals, but their sense of duty to the country turned out to be higher than their personal desires. Just do not immediately blame me for the incorrectness of comparisons. Both of them are called upon to defend the country - someone on the battlefield, and someone in sports ... But - the country!
  8. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 15 February 2018 08: 18
    +2
    It would be nice to demonstrate not only contempt, but also victories in hockey. Besides contempt, it is also necessary, although it will not prevent our “pure” inadmissible athletes from receiving money from the IOC. And I’m afraid we’ll be scared. that grandfather Bach came and cried, how he was unpleasant to do nasty things to us.
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  10. PValery53
    PValery53 15 February 2018 08: 22
    +2
    Russia must judge T. Bach and his henchmen by his court for humiliating Russia and violating the commandment of the Olympians - "sport outside politics."
    1. AlexVas44
      AlexVas44 15 February 2018 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: PValery53
      Russia must judge T. Bach and his minions for humiliating Russia with his court

      Yesterday T. Bach visited our compatriots from the UAR group. Interestingly, someone told (hinted) to him who he is now with his minions.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 15 February 2018 12: 40
      0
      You are an idealist. And the idea, in principle, is correct. Just a question - who are the judges?
  11. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 15 February 2018 08: 26
    +2
    So maybe it makes sense to revive the Olympic Games of Pierre de Coubertin in Russia, based on the Universiade and Russian infrastructure? Surely this will be beneficial from a financial and political point of view.
  12. olhon
    olhon 15 February 2018 08: 34
    0
    The only thing that pleases the eye is the curling girl ...
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 15 February 2018 08: 39
      +4
      Quote: olhon
      The only thing that pleases the eye is the curling girl ...

      The only thing that pleases are girls !!! without any curling women !!! laughing
  13. CooL_SnipeR
    CooL_SnipeR 15 February 2018 08: 58
    +1
    They would show a sense of pride if they were not there. We went for grandmas ... fi ...
  14. sgr291158
    sgr291158 15 February 2018 09: 21
    +1
    Before, yes, at the Olympics they defended the honor of the country. And now there are just Russian athletes present. No flag, no anthem, no coat of arms. Our country was simply doused with shit and bent as they wanted. It's just a shame, I don’t even look at what you are fighting for, most likely for money, because sport is now a solid commercial project.
  15. eugraphus
    eugraphus 15 February 2018 09: 27
    +3
    For the loss of the banner of the part, part disbanded. It was once a sacred symbol.
    Now we see a “good” example for young people. If you find an excuse, then any foulness, it seems, is already tolerant and even necessary. And if you compare with the scouts, who dressed in Nazi uniform to complete the mission, much can be justified. And after all, they are already comparing Russians with fighters performing dangerous tasks in Syria without state Russian banners.
  16. PROXOR
    PROXOR 15 February 2018 09: 28
    0
    Well, since we went there, then at the sports house to raise the USSR FLAG !!!! They forgot to put Bear there and give him a balalaika and AKM.
  17. Vladivostok1969
    Vladivostok1969 15 February 2018 09: 56
    0
    Football player Fedor Smolov was brutally deceived when buying an apartment for 191 million

    Sport in Russia is earning money. If you get into the stream, then mow to the fullest. Could Blokhin boast of such earnings? No. But he PLAYED. Ahead of the World Cup. What are we waiting for?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 15 February 2018 12: 38
      0
      Another portion of scandal and humiliation.
  18. lightning
    lightning 15 February 2018 10: 00
    +1
    But curious. All who are negative about our athletes. And did you also despise polite people in 2014?
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 15 February 2018 11: 38
      +2
      Quote: Lightning
      But curious. All who are negative about our athletes. And did you also despise polite people in 2014?

      What nonsense. Polite people were not without insignia because they disowned their homeland. Or do you think you need to fight in all chevrons, in axelbants, in the front belt? And in addition with white paint to draw a target on the back and belly?
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    2. NordUral
      NordUral 15 February 2018 12: 37
      +1
      Lightning, are you a clown? Or just a bot?
  19. BAI
    BAI 15 February 2018 10: 08
    +2
    I can’t say anything about the Olympics - I don’t watch it.
  20. a housewife
    a housewife 15 February 2018 10: 53
    +1
    midivan,
    The oath is an empty phrase? !!!!
  21. Altona
    Altona 15 February 2018 11: 16
    0
    Quote: PValery53
    Russia must judge T. Bach and his henchmen by his court for humiliating Russia and violating the commandment of the Olympians - "sport outside politics."

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    In theory, IOC sanctions and some absentee arrest for humiliation of our country should be announced. To the same Thomas Bach. And according to the results, where the Germans, Norwegians, Canadians and the USA go first, it’s clear why there was a fuss with the removal of our leading athletes. They are afraid of real competition. This Olympics is broken, bring another.
  22. Firework
    Firework 15 February 2018 11: 46
    +1
    is this article an election campaign for Putin?
  23. Victor-M
    Victor-M 15 February 2018 11: 52
    0
    It would be nice if this moment, with the inadmissibility and ignoring of the Russian opinion on this situation at the JI, would be an effective lesson for our officials of all ranks, so that our Russian bureaucrats would try on themselves this helplessness and repairing lawlessness, so that they finally realize that such situations within Russia itself in relation to ordinary people, ON THE SIDE OF THE MOST OFFICIALS, occur everywhere. I hope now they will understand how a simple citizen feels when they come to the official for help and receive floods of dirt and indifference towards their requests for help.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 15 February 2018 12: 33
      0
      Vain hopes! This can only be treated with surgery. And the people should become a surgeon, amputating the power of the liberals in the March 18 elections (after all, they dress up as patriots and jump straight out of their pants). We have only one choice - either we are a collective surgeon who cuts out a cancerous tumor, or a corpse on a table by a pathologist, and this does not have to wait long with this power.
  24. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 February 2018 11: 56
    0
    What is it like? Have you shown the muzzle in your pocket? am
  25. pavelty
    pavelty 15 February 2018 11: 56
    +1
    Pierre de Coubertin, the poor fellow, is spinning in a coffin ...
  26. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 February 2018 12: 08
    +1
    And these are the descendants of the Great People of the Victor who broke the ridge of fascism ?!
  27. Slat808
    Slat808 15 February 2018 12: 13
    +2
    Farce, not a holiday of sport. Will there be no retribution for humiliation?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 15 February 2018 12: 27
      +3
      Good question. Let's answer it on March 18th! So that we no longer have such power that leads the country and all of us to this, and in everything. All to the polls!
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 15 February 2018 12: 41
        +1
        Quote: NordUral
        Good question. Let's answer it on March 18th! So that we no longer have such power that leads the country and all of us to this, and in everything. All to the polls!

        Colleague, can you hypothetically imagine what will be the embarrassment if all the candidates withdraw from the election? what
  28. NordUral
    NordUral 15 February 2018 12: 20
    +4

    What to say to “our” authorities - if they wanted humiliation and shame - get it! Just do not confuse yourself with us and with real athletes, for whom the Motherland, the Flag of the country, the Honor of the country and people are not an empty phrase.
  29. Simple russian
    Simple russian 15 February 2018 12: 25
    +2
    Those who are now part of the OAR are not Russian athletes, much less patriots. These are people without honor, a flag and a homeland. Their task is to cut down more dough. They are naive, they think, someone will allow them. Since they surrendered and raised their hands, it’s a prisoner, and that’s where they are dear. In captivity do not give medals. Maybe they will give one gold and then in the form of a “cookie” in order to capture more of these “athletes” the next time. But then about Westerners then the Westerners will gloat like you see, they are nobody without doping and there is no way to call them. It’s for our officials .... a drum, they don’t get used to Russia, but honestly did not expect from “athletes”. Ugh, disgusting.
  30. lightning
    lightning 15 February 2018 12: 41
    0
    Quote: BecmepH
    Quote: Lightning
    But curious. All who are negative about our athletes. And did you also despise polite people in 2014?

    What nonsense. Polite people were not without insignia because they disowned their homeland. Or do you think you need to fight in all chevrons, in axelbants, in the front belt? And in addition with white paint to draw a target on the back and belly?

    And then the target? There are field variations of insignia that are not distinguishable. They, in principle, were without insignia and to the last did not admit that they were related to Russia. Moreover, even the supreme commander of the Russian Federation said that it’s not ours. Athletes, on the contrary, say that we are from Russia. And the same commander in chief said to them go and earn medals. And still, for some reason, some despise them. The riddle is simple.
    1. S-kerrigan
      S-kerrigan 16 February 2018 09: 24
      +1
      Yes, it’s just that there are a lot of senility - false patriots (I'm talking about those who roll a barrel on ours).
      Coat of arms, flag, anthem is all external attributes state va. And slow-witted brains have little to realize that there are internal ones - the very “state of mind” that cannot be taken away.

      Apparently, most locals and women choose purely in appearance, and not in their brains.
  31. macgyver
    macgyver 15 February 2018 14: 26
    0
    Let them rejoice that only nesting dolls and balalaika took. Once again, this will be repeated - we will come to their Olympics on sled bears.
    1. S-kerrigan
      S-kerrigan 16 February 2018 09: 27
      0
      If without jokes, then the idea is just insanely cool - such a thing would definitely blow up the media and fall into history.
  32. Lexus
    Lexus 15 February 2018 16: 26
    +1
    And what, in fact, is "pride"? The fact that, after "trampled", got up, shook off the "Russian symbolism" and went on to "peck grains"? Here it turns out, why Olympic rings of "rainbow" colors.
  33. lightning
    lightning 15 February 2018 16: 49
    +1
    I am amazed that we have such a large number of pseudo-patriots who care about external attributes. You spit in the back to your athletes, instead of cheering for them and supporting them. They already have a difficult task, to fight with a strong opponent. But this is not unusual, the Russians often had to fight with an opponent who is stronger. and not even just stronger, but when there are almost no chances, but someone must defend the honor of the country. Because it is necessary. Because there are no others, there is only you, and therefore you must do everything you can.
    It is unusual that such people are considered to be heroes, and they are spit on, and their own, those for whom you are going to fight. They spit on you and call you a traitor only because they know that you will lose, because the enemy is clearly stronger, and therefore it’s not worth trying to lose because it’s a shame!
    This disturbs me to the core, here is a picture of a soldier who stopped the enemy’s convoy. Really, if you were next to him then you would have told him, they say, why should you climb on the rampage? Their whole column and all are armed, they are clearly stronger, because if they do not stop, then you will lose and the whole world will consider Russia weak and humiliated because of your personal defeat. Let’s better move aside, and let those who are stronger deal with them!
    How do you even think that it’s you and not these true patriots?
    1. dDYHA
      dDYHA 15 February 2018 17: 36
      +1
      Let's say your name is Ivan Petrov and your mother is called Elena Petrova. "This is purely for example." And they tell you you will play this interesting game on one condition. What is your name Elsa Romez and your mother doesn’t call her, you are an orphan. Will you play this interesting game?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 February 2018 19: 25
        0
        He can still tell that big sport should unite the whole people ???
        And the mundial finally! what is we to be proud of? our football deb fans are great patriots ???
        And if the PEOPLE ask, where did he give up this football and the Olympics without OUR team?
        What answer will he find?
    2. Sewer krainiy
      Sewer krainiy 15 February 2018 20: 50
      0
      Well, when the Flag and the Anthem are external attributes, then of course, then it doesn’t fit in your head. And all the military on the VO with the soldier would stand by your side, and you and the wind would not go together ... Comparator, your mother ...
      Lightning Today, 16:49
      I am amazed that we have such a large number of pseudo-patriots who care about external attributes.

      here is a photo of a soldier who stopped an enemy convoy.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 February 2018 21: 30
        +1
        It’s so simple for some FLAG and HYMN et simply paraphernalia, and then sho we are FOR THE MOTHERLAND, and for some, some, “what kind of homeland, what are you talking about, in fact, they feed us well here!” .... here is the logical result!
        I have no complaints about the athletes, let's go and all right, if only they take into account that they were not interested in most of the country, precisely because they went contrary to ... this is their choice.
        I don’t want to say anything about the bureaucratic brotherhood, I would roll them wherever and forget them.
  34. dDYHA
    dDYHA 15 February 2018 17: 31
    +1
    It’s morally to give Russia more and more at the Olympics. Look at the FHR, they said officially that we had rings on the TV and the OAR is written. A disgrace. There are no Russians there, but there are prostitutes who are for bucks with anyone and in any position. The disgrace of the country.
    1. eugraphus
      eugraphus 16 February 2018 00: 15
      0
      Quote: dDYHA
      It’s morally to give Russia more and more at the Olympics.

      "Russian House" at the Olympics was banned, you can call just a sports house. So it was forbidden to show won medals in it. Another ban, except for humiliation, which does not make any sense. What other humiliating posture will the “athletes from Russia” demand?
  35. lightning
    lightning 16 February 2018 02: 22
    0
    Yeah. Imagine, the flag and the anthem are all external attributes. And no matter what color they are, their country must be protected.
    This was once understood by veterans who swore allegiance to the king and nevertheless stood under the red banners when it was necessary to defend their homeland. Although the enemy threw great effort into explaining to them that this should not be done, there is already a different flag there, not the one to which you swore. Run better to me, we here have created an army with the flag that you love.
    It’s good that then there were people who understood that true patriots didn’t choose the side of the flag.
    It is strange that you do not understand this.
  36. X Y Z
    X Y Z 16 February 2018 08: 30
    0
    All this is verbal balancing act - a flag and a hymn in the soul, all the same, everyone knows where we are from, etc. And the desire to sanctify their base feelings with patriotism. Only. Very reminiscent of some believers who say that I will not go to the temple, there are bad priests, and I have God in my soul and this is enough for me. The poor do not understand that this is not given just like that, but with great labor and a clean life. You can tryndet about "ours" as much as you like, and the numerous adherents of the sect "we will eat and show them all and go through" do it, but you can’t deceive the people. All this pseudo-patriotic rhetoric looks very childish and wretched, especially since there are good suspicions that it is not being disinterestedly conducted.
  37. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 16 February 2018 22: 58
    0
    Again VO launched the most holivarny topic. Do not try to prove anything to each other. Watch or not watch this Olympiad it doesn’t change anything in this world. Absolutely. Save your time. Just do as your heart tells you. Betrayed by the athlete or not betrayed. ... this is not important. Because it’s not for athletes to understand anything at all. It was the enemies who wanted to boycott and not watch the Olympics and you .... you bought yourself .... as children ... you are all traitors, those who preferred boycott the Olympics and not those who made it there, so as not to give all the medals to these hyenas, well, live on with this anger.