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Expert opinion: the scale of the upcoming Sino-Russian naval exercises will be unprecedented ('People's Daily', China)

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Expert opinion: the scale of the upcoming Sino-Russian naval exercises will be unprecedented ('People's Daily', China)How will the upcoming joint Chinese-Russian naval exercises differ from the past? What is the political and diplomatic significance of these teachings? Ma Xiaolin, an expert on international issues, the head of blshe.com Chinese blog portal, shared his opinion on these issues.

Unprecedented "actions"

Ma Xiaolin believes that the upcoming Chinese-Russian exercises will be different in that the code of maneuvers will change for the first time. For the first time, the PRC and the Russian Federation will hold exercises under the code “Sea Interaction-2012”, which will be the first joint maneuvers in the sea outside the SCO.

Secondly, the upcoming exercises will surpass the past in scale. According to the Director of the Office of Foreign Affairs under the Ministry of Defense of the PRC, Major General Qian Lihua, the theme of the exercise is “Joint defense and guaranteed military operations at sea”. The maneuvers will consist of four parts: preparation for military actions, practicing practical actions, a naval parade, exchange and study. On the Chinese side, 16 surface ships will be involved, including a destroyer, escort, missile boat, integrated supply ship, hospital ship, 2 submarines. On the Russian side, seven warships will take part. During the exercise, a joint command center will be created, from the Chinese side, Vice-Admiral Din Ipin, Deputy Commander of the Navy, will manage, from the Russian side, Rear-Admiral Leonid Sukhanov, Deputy Chief of the Main Staff of the Russian Navy.

From the point of view of the program of the upcoming exercises, in the 2005 year, the joint Peacekeeping Mission maneuvers were held under the counter-terrorism sign, the current exercises are mainly aimed at strengthening the abilities to combat piracy and terrorism in the Pacific, guarantee free travel, counter the challenges of external enemies.

During the exercises, the North Sea fleet of China will send a missile destroyer, which will be part of a joint group with Russian ships. For the first time, Chinese and Russian vessels will jointly cross the Tsushima Strait of Japan and enter the waters of the Yellow Sea of ​​China. In a sense, the exercises will be important actions in the Western Pacific, will cause regional concerns.

Responding to new challenges and threats

Speaking about the importance of joint Chinese-Russian naval exercises, Ma Xiaolin believes that the upcoming exercises resonate with the “relations of comprehensive strategic interaction and partnership” established between the PRC and the Russian Federation, and special bilateral ties have been reaffirmed and deepened in the military field. The sides, through joint exercises, will enhance the ability to counter new challenges and threats at sea, as well as coordination abilities, will advance the protection of peace and stability in the APR and on the planet.

At the same time, the upcoming exercises will mark a strategic cooperation against the background of constantly changing events in West Asia and North Africa, as well as in the context of the Syrian crisis. In particular, after China and Russia twice rejected the draft UN Security Council resolution on Syria, and also after the Russian Federation announced the intention of its long-term military presence in the area near Syria, these exercises will testify even more about the connection with past events in the world.

Ma Xiaolin noted that following the relocation of the US strategic center to the East, the strengthening of US strategic cooperation with the APR, the strengthening of military cooperation with the allies, Washington’s intervention in the South China Sea issues, creating a threat to the vital interests of China and Russia in the region, China and Russia should certainly give a clear signal to the Americans.

The style, spelling and punctuation of the original are preserved, please readers - do not signal errors in this article - approx. ed.
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http://russian.people.com.cn/
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  1. Artur09-75
    Artur09-75 April 19 2012 13: 15
    +14
    The main thing is not to let the Chinese not copy anything. laughing And so let them train.
    1. esaul
      esaul April 19 2012 13: 23
      +17
      Artur09-75,
      Hi Arthur. I agree - let them train, but without "fanaticism" you just don't copy laughing Well, as for the scale and "a clear signal to the Americans," then - let's be calm. such a signal will be "sucked" by those to whom the "message" is addressed. They sucked in a clear signal across Syria, when Kuznetsov propelled past the Syrian shores! laughing
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man April 19 2012 13: 57
        +4
        esaul,
        Greetings, Valera, as always agree, by the way, where's the booze?
        1. esaul
          esaul April 19 2012 14: 31
          +1
          old rocketman,
          Igor, fireworks, buddy. The article "Power demonstrates a complete lack of understanding ..." Threw Yarom, WOW, St. Petrov, Neighbor, Chupacabra, Zikszura, Cynic, Dmitrich, OdinPlys, dim,
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 19 2012 13: 24
      +5
      In other words, should ours force the Chinese to copy everything?
      1. 755962
        755962 April 19 2012 14: 41
        +3
        The exercise is a counterbalance to the Balikatan (Shoulder to Shoulder) maneuver. This time, the Balikatan exercise coincided with the escalation of a long-standing territorial dispute between the Philippines and the PRC, which nearly led to armed conflict last week.
        More: http://kommersant.ru/doc/1917327
    3. Neighbor
      Neighbor April 19 2012 18: 15
      0
      China and Russia must certainly give a clear signal to the Americans.
      This is my business! That's right, America-sosy - next to China - the other day, they held joint naval exercises with the Philippines, sort of - they knew about ours and China - so they decided to keep up. Show your self.
      But only - if Russia + China is something that America has never seen in a nightmare - no Phillips will help.
      Quote: kontrzasada20
      the two powerful regional powers became seriously worried and set about developing a joint response strategy.

      drinks Let's give America ..........! drinks
    4. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus April 20 2012 20: 34
      0
      How do you imagine that? they have 3 full-time artists on each ship; during the exercises, their task is to draw a partner’s technique and transfer the drawings to the playful hands of Chinese engineers.
  2. Cripple cross
    Cripple cross April 19 2012 13: 18
    +13
    We invite the Chinese fleet to proceed with our guests to our Syrian base. So simple, friendly invitation to swim from boredom))))
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 19 2012 13: 24
      +10
      Once China was a faithful ally of the USSR, together we beat the UN troops in Korea
      1. kontrzasada20
        kontrzasada20 April 19 2012 15: 09
        +9
        The Russian-Chinese rapprochement is generally a very positive phenomenon. The United States so scared Beijing and Moscow with its “color revolutions” in the post-Soviet space that the two powerful regional powers became seriously worried and began to work out a joint response strategy.
        The only question is: in the twenty-first century, China, nosebleed needs access to the resources of Eastern Siberia. Without this, competition with the United States and the creation of Greater China can be forgotten.
        Beijing, seeing the geopolitical weakness and bewilderment of Moscow, its fluctuations in relation to America and globalism, just in case directs an excess of its population across the northern border. You do not have time to look around, and Eastern Siberia will speak Chinese. This is just deadly for Russia. The strategic partnership of Moscow with Beijing - the oil pipeline, the sale of weapons, and joint exercises - should be the main condition: the cessation of demographic expansion.
        Although China exports the excesses of its demographics to the South, Australia is still populated only along the coast, so there will be where to turn around.
        We must show our strength to China: he will get access to our resources, but only from the hands of a strong, free and independent Russia, populated by the Russian population and our other original Eurasian ethnic groups.
        A Dugin
        The formula is simple: oil, gas and weapons in exchange for ending demographic expansion.
        The road to the north for China should be closed, to the south for God's sake, our north !!!!!! Let us make sure at joint exercises that we will not joke.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal April 19 2012 15: 51
          +4
          Quote: kontrzasada20
          The road to the north for China should be closed, to the south for God's sake, our north !!!!!! Let us make sure at joint exercises that we will not joke.

          - This kind of spell helps a little. At least for the start of criminals living in overpopulated parts of Russia, especially in Moscow and there who committed crimes (which crimes are a separate issue, there is a separate work on this issue), the choice is either a prison term or two such sentences in a remote Siberian a village near Khabarovsk (options - Vladivostok, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatka, Blagoveshchensk, Birobidzhan and others) are free, but without the right to leave there. All civil liberties, especially the right to marry and give birth to children while being there, are not simply saved, but even encouraged, but not by shortening the term, but simply in cash. Make it go there. the roots. if the person is young, the likelihood of this is high enough. This is for a start. Then, we definitely need a targeted program for the development of Siberia and the Far East, a targeted demographic separate program for residents of Siberia and the Far East. Every third child born must be guaranteed full welfare - from health care to whatever education he wants in any Russian university + boarding school for food + automatic increase in the diplomatic area of ​​the family that gave birth to the third child in a room or 15 sq.m. And for each subsequent child - automatically the same algorithm. Pay in the absence of comments from the guardianship authorities (and the family that gave birth to the third child should automatically fall on the trustee’s card) the salary of the mother-housewife at the level of specialist mid-level personnel (office plankton, grassroots accountant, etc.), determined on the basis of labor market monitoring )
          Yes, expensive. Understand. But want to keep priceless lands? Do you really want to? Pay. No other way. there are no miracles.
          1. zevs379
            zevs379 April 19 2012 17: 18
            +1
            For
            aksakal.

            I agree with many things - but against the ZK. This is not Australia scum merge. If the prevailing counterparty is the wk, then the normal will not go. Or maybe the idea of ​​moving the capital is not so stupid?
          2. Krilion
            Krilion April 20 2012 01: 21
            +1
            Quote: aksakal
            At least for the start of criminals living in overpopulated parts of Russia, especially in Moscow and there who committed crimes (which crimes are a separate issue, there is a separate work on this issue), the choice is either a prison term or two such sentences in a remote Siberian a village near Khabarovsk (options - Vladivostok, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatka, Blagoveshchensk, Birobidzhan and others) are free, but without the right to leave there. All civil liberties, especially the right to marry and give birth to children while being there, are not simply saved, but even encouraged, but not by shortening the term, but simply in cash. Make it go there. the roots. if the person is young, the likelihood of this is high enough. This is for a start.


            first, people like you need to be checked by a psychiatrist ...
        2. AlexL
          AlexL April 19 2012 17: 22
          +3
          What kind of nonsense? 90 percent of the Chinese population lives along the coast, mainly in the southeast of the country. In addition, China would not have been particularly worried if we had not squeezed it out of Africa and Asia. At the expense of Siberian resources - it is easier and cheaper to build a joint oil / gas pipelines than to arrange for it at least some sort of war.
  3. dred
    dred April 19 2012 13: 22
    +3
    The main thing is that NATO and the USA would be scared.
    1. Bat1stuta
      Bat1stuta April 19 2012 14: 35
      +2
      Quote: dred
      The main thing is that NATO and the USA would be scared

      You forgot about the Japanese. they will surely yell most of all if that ... lol
  4. sergo0000
    sergo0000 April 19 2012 13: 35
    +10
    An interesting point is that all the teams in the exercises will be in Russian!
    Yesterday Russia24 looked, they said about it there.
  5. mnemonics
    mnemonics April 19 2012 13: 42
    +3
    In today's situation, better together than individually
  6. Nechai
    Nechai April 19 2012 13: 42
    +4
    Quote: sergo0000
    All teams in the exercises will be in Russian!

    So much faster and more informative. Does the Northern Fleet transfer to Pacific Fleet via SevMorPut at all, is it considering and working out?
  7. FED
    FED April 19 2012 13: 52
    +3
    These are the disastrous consequences if NATO attacks Iran, as stated by both countries. drinks
  8. igor67
    igor67 April 19 2012 14: 21
    +7
    and copy to the Chinese, and it’s not necessary, and so almost the entire fleet was sold to them, they will soon evaluate the real capabilities of the Russian Navy, they have long laid eyes on the oil shelf in the Arctic Ocean
  9. Kaetani
    Kaetani April 19 2012 14: 22
    +4
    Whatever it is, but the very probability of such exercises adds a lot of unknowns to various geopolitical equations. And under such conditions, the "great gendarme" does not work. Yusa waits until everything is scouted and calculated for him. I just got ready and here these Russians again threw the Rubik's cube - collect it again.
  10. Vanek
    Vanek April 19 2012 14: 31
    +2
    The main thing is that the "Bad" does not send his fleet there from Empire Total war.

    And then you never know what. laughing
  11. Knowing
    Knowing April 19 2012 14: 35
    +2
    this is POWER - RUSSIA AND CHINA
    in front of america with japan
  12. Trailer
    Trailer April 19 2012 14: 42
    +3
    So I want to ask everyone a question, is China more our friend or enemy today? And why?
    1. Vanek
      Vanek April 19 2012 14: 47
      +7
      If a friend was suddenly
      And not a friend, not an enemy, but - so,
      If you do not understand right away,
      Is he good or bad -
      Guy to the mountains of pull - take a chance!
      Do not leave him alone,
      Let him in a bunch in one with you -
      There you will understand who it is.

      If a guy in the mountains - not ah,
      If you immediately turn limp and - down,
      Step stepped on the glacier and - snik,
      He paused - and in a cry, -
      So next to you is a stranger
      Do not scold him - drive:
      They don’t take those up, and here
      About these do not sing.

      If he did not whine, did not ache,
      Although he was gloomy and angry, but he walked,
      And when you fell from the rocks,
      He moaned but held
      If he followed you like in a fight
      At the top stood a hoppy -
      So, as for yourself,
      Rely on him.
  13. lcalex
    lcalex April 19 2012 15: 37
    +12
    Hello to all.
    I did not dare to enter into discussions on the forum for a long time, but now I can not resist. I'm about China. TOTALLY agree with kontrzasada20 regarding demographic expansion! I am from Irkutsk and watch with my own eyes
    as the Chinese are becoming more and more. Once in the early 90s we had a "Shanghai" and the Chinese were polite, yellow and fluffy, and now they kick Russian grannies in the city center. My wife once went to Shanghai without me, so she was swollen with cross-eyed snot because she didn't buy anything from her. They will become impudent! Nowadays, Chinese people are often seen with small children. And these children are not chirping in Russian. The Chinese are buying huts in new buildings ... In short, they are mastering. In the region we have the town of Chuna, as I heard it jokingly called Chunyan because the Russian Federation leased local mines to the Chinese. In the villages of the Russians, three cripples remain, and the Chinese live in huge families and somehow are in no hurry to return to the Middle Kingdom. They give birth to their own here.
    Maybe someone will say that I am, but I'm sure: there is a terrible threat of the capture of the eastern territories of Russia by the Chinese. And without a single shot. They just assimilate us.
    1. Trailer
      Trailer April 19 2012 16: 02
      +4
      Question: why are many Chinese and few Russians born there? After all, I did not hear anything about China's financing of immigrants to Russia ... so far. It turns out that both must plow in order to live. Hence the moral ...
      1. lcalex
        lcalex April 19 2012 17: 44
        +6
        Yes, what moral ... What now, because of morality, to hand over lands to Baikal?
        The Chinese plow, of course, this cannot be taken away from them. They even have a religion that tells them to work and multiply. Only I will tell you how they grow cucumbers with tomatoes in Siberia: all the counters are littered with cheap vegetables from Chinese plantations. Why buy Tashkent tomatoes if they are one and a half times more expensive than Chinese? Everyone takes these cheap ones. The Chinese are getting richer.
        Meanwhile, there is so much chemistry in Chinese vegetables that it would not be worth eating them. On TV they showed a story about SES and Rospotrebnadzor. SES officers say: we confiscate tons of illegal drugs from them, but they import new ones. And the SES and others like them have an order: "Do not nightmare small business"! And they can't check Chinese greenhouses every day. Here is the secret of the Chinese economic miracle ... Conclusion:
        They a) Poison us
        b) Destroy the remnants of OUR agricultural
        c) Get rich on this
        The same is true in other sectors of the national economy.
        So a military alliance with them is certainly certainly tempting, but they must be driven from our land!
  14. taseka
    taseka April 19 2012 16: 19
    +7
    Quote: lcalex
    And these children are not tweeting in Russian. The Chinese are buying huts in new buildings ... In short mastered. In the region, we have the town of Chun, so I heard him jokingly called Chunyan because the Russian Federation leased local mines to the Chinese. Three cripples remain in the Russian villages, and the Chinese live in huge families and are somehow in no hurry to return to the heavenly places. Give birth to their here.

    This is the seizure of the territory of the Russian Federation. After 15 years - autonomy, through 25 years the status of autonomy and 5 years - disconnection! Why fight if in years through 30-40 the whole Far East will become China! Where are the laws that won't give it ???????
  15. Dan099
    Dan099 April 19 2012 16: 22
    +8
    You need to be with the Chinese. I do not like them, forgive me - there is a reason, and even more I hate those who gave the Chinese part of the island on the Amur River. I will never forgive Putin for giving the island of Damansky. My uncle Zharkov Vadim was seriously injured there. His friend was saved by Yuri Babansky, who was later awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union
    1. igor67
      igor67 April 19 2012 20: 24
      +3
      in the late 80s, a major retired two orders of the red star and other awards full chest worked with me .2 business trips to Afghanistan. so the first order of the Red Star is for Damansky. he told how the Chinese got up in the morning and around
  16. awg75
    awg75 April 19 2012 18: 33
    +3
    we must be friends with China
  17. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss April 19 2012 19: 44
    +2
    China is a native country. Like Russia. It is easier for us to agree with them than with amers. It is necessary to conduct a normal social policy and not to fool around in the external, and everything will be fine.
  18. patriot64
    patriot64 April 19 2012 20: 32
    +5
    China is a dark horse. Today with us, and tomorrow ... Let's see ...
  19. nekromonger
    nekromonger April 19 2012 23: 42
    0
    We were friends with the Germans before the war ....
    1. vladimir64ss
      vladimir64ss April 20 2012 00: 21
      0
      h
      Quote: nekromonger
      We were friends with the Germans before the war ..

      We were friends, in places, and with Europe now. Only the friend grew up.