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Belarus has sent a request to Russia to extend the lease of military facilities

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Belarus sent a request to Russia about plans to extend the lease of two Russian military facilities in the republic, said Defense Minister of Belarus Andrei Rawkov on Wednesday in Minsk.


Belarus has sent a request to Russia to extend the lease of military facilities


In 1995, Belarus and Russia signed intergovernmental agreements on the procedure for using the Baranovichi Hub of a missile attack warning system (located in Gantsevichi) and on the procedure for the use and maintenance of the Vileyka radio station (RF communications center of the RFF). Both agreements remain in force for 25 years and can be extended by written agreement of the parties. If one of the parties is unwilling to extend the term of this agreement, she notifies the other party in writing about the decision made 12 months before the end of the agreement.

We sent requests there, this question is now being agreed. Everything is executed in accordance with the agreements that are
- Minister said at a press conference.

He recalled that next year it is necessary to resolve the issue of renting Russian military facilities.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense of Belarus reported that Minsk is ready to consider extending the lease of military bases by Moscow on the territory of the republic, if there is an appeal from the Russian side. It was noted that the lease of the Russian military facilities in Gantsevichi and Vileyka expires in 2020, RIA reports News
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 14 February 2018 18: 15
    +13
    Normal practice. In advance, without nerves and tantrums.
    Here is the "sitting on two chairs" Old Man. But you could get it off as “partners” with Alyasochka smile
    1. Inquisitive
      Inquisitive 14 February 2018 18: 16
      +8
      Quote: Thrall
      Normal practice. In advance and without nerves.

      Azerbaijan already tried to twist hands and blackmail did not pass ...
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 February 2018 19: 12
        +2
        Quote: Inquisitive
        Azerbaijan already tried to twist hands and blackmail did not pass ...

        They just closed our radar in Gabala, under the pretext of rental prices. So to say that the blackmail did not go through, it is rather inappropriate here, we lost a very convenient site.
        1. Uralean
          Uralean 14 February 2018 19: 37
          +17
          Russia itself abandoned the radar station in Gabala, for several reasons .. Firstly, the radar station in Gabala, one of the first stations of the USSR in the Caucasus, was both morally and physically outdated. Science has already stepped forward, and something had to be radically done with it. Reconstruction cost a lot of money. Second, Azerbaijan set a number of conditions for Russia's preservation of the radar station in Gabala, economic, political, moral order, which Russia was difficult to accept. On this, Russia abandoned Gabala, building a NEW modern radar station in Armavir, more powerful. But Azerbaijan was left with a monument to the former Soviet power ..)
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 14 February 2018 19: 40
            +1
            Quote: Ural
            Russia itself abandoned the radar in Gabala, for several reasons.

            After Azerbaijan put up a rent in the region of 200 mil $ for rent, there was no reason to bargain. And if you are not aware, then they offered to modernize it and even brought several equipment transports.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 14 February 2018 22: 42
        +1
        Quote: Inquisitive
        Quote: Thrall
        Normal practice. In advance and without nerves.

        Azerbaijan already tried to twist hands and blackmail did not pass ...

        And where does Azerbaijan? In my opinion, friction has arisen with Belarusians in this regard so far.
    2. Simon
      Simon 14 February 2018 18: 21
      +5
      Well, of course, Russia only BEHIND!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 14 February 2018 18: 24
        +4
        Naturally. This is our common task.
        Quote: Simon
        Well, of course, Russia only BEHIND!
        1. Cutter
          Cutter 14 February 2018 21: 42
          +3
          [quoteBelarus sent a request to Russia regarding plans to extend the lease term for two Russian military facilities located on the territory of the republic, Belarusian Minister of Defense Andrei Ravkov said in Minsk on Wednesday.
          Belarus sent a request to Russia to extend the lease of military facilities] [/ quote]
          Let this “minister” answer how his subordinates in peacetime “hang out” with their hands, legs tied, with a T-shirt on the tower (this is in training!) And .... THIS FOLLOWS THE DUTIES OF THE MINISTER ?????? ????
          RESIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          1. Cutter
            Cutter 14 February 2018 21: 44
            +3
            no need to speak. The Minister is crappy, his mouth is hammered, we are sitting calmly. wink
            1. Cutter
              Cutter 14 February 2018 21: 54
              +5
              Earlier, the Ministry of Defense of Belarus reported that Minsk was ready to consider extending Moscow’s lease of military bases on the territory of the republic, if there is an appeal from the Russian side. It was noted that the lease term for military facilities of the Russian Federation in Gantsevichi and Vileika expires in the 2020 year, RIA Novosti reports.

              Yesterday, the President put in a “piston” to all BEL-SILOVIK ... He said that Russia is not helping her, either ... laughing And we don’t think so .... He wasn’t given "pennies" .... lol
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 14 February 2018 18: 40
        +6
        Quote: Simon
        Well, of course, Russia is only FOR!

        Not a fact.
        No, from the political point of view of Russia, this can and should be. But with the military, it’s not at all a fact
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 14 February 2018 19: 08
          +3
          Quote: Spade
          No, from the political point of view of Russia, this can and should be. But with the military, it’s not at all a fact

          and with the same political is not a fact!
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 14 February 2018 21: 12
          +7
          Quote: Spade
          No, from the political point of view of Russia, this can and should be. But with the military, it’s not at all a fact

          Initially, the Volga was not a base station SPRN, a more powerful Darial was to become such a station. It was planned that the first Volga station in Biysk would track China, but in connection with the normalization of relations, it was decided to abandon this venture. Construction was started near Baranavichy to control the launches of the Pershing BR from Germany, but was later suspended by M. Gorbachev . The node was planned to be commissioned in 1989.
          Since 1991, the construction of the station was frozen by the leadership of Belarus, but later intensified. Since 1993, the construction has been virtually frozen due to insufficient funding and inconsistency of actions of the customer and the work of the contractor. As a result, the equipment, having stood for a long time in storage facilities, became unusable. Subsequently, the question arose of replacing it, which required additional financial costs and time.

          In December 1994, the station was first turned on during radiation tests.

          In accordance with the agreement concluded between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus on January 6, 1995, all real estate and land occupied by ORTU "Baranovichi" were transferred to the Russian side for use for a period of 25 years without levying all types of taxes. The leadership of Belarus also does not charge for the use of communication channels.
          After we lost Skrunda, a gap arose in the Northwest Atlantic and in 1998. accelerated construction began in 2002. the station entered the database, control over the patrol areas of American and British submarines with the Trident BR in the North Atlantic and the Norwegian Sea was restored.

          Well, Vileyka is also a necessary object for SDV communication with the Russian Navy’s nuclear submarines and the generation of accurate time signals for the SEV ABM of Moscow.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 14 February 2018 21: 27
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            After we lost Skrunda, a gap arose in the Northwest Atlantic and in 1998. accelerated construction began in 2002. the station entered the database

            And now its sector is blocked by much more modern Voronezh in Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg.
            The problems of these objects, in fact, are that they are Belarusian. And they don’t have money for modernization.
        3. avt
          avt 14 February 2018 22: 40
          +3
          Quote: Spade
          Not a fact.

          The fact of the radar, and the point of contact is not superfluous. Another thing - Butsk is waiting for the Su-30.
    3. newcomer
      newcomer 14 February 2018 18: 24
      +5
      agree, will not go anywhere.
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 14 February 2018 18: 28
      +10
      Quote: Thrall
      Normal practice. In advance, without nerves and tantrums.

      So it should seem to be between normal countries. hi
    5. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 14 February 2018 18: 50
      +3
      Yes, it seems like there are no problems, Yes, and the Navy does not have a joke wink
      The lease of real estate and land by Russia on which the 474th separate Baranavichy radio engineering center (Gantsevichi, Brest Region) and the 43rd communications center of the Russian Navy (Vileyka, Minsk Region) are due to expire in 2020.
      According to the agreements, decisions on the extension (or non-renewal) of the lease for the next 25 years should be taken two years before. Ordinary technical procedures.
    6. kapitan92
      kapitan92 14 February 2018 21: 47
      +6
      Quote: Thrall
      Normal practice. In advance, without nerves and tantrums.
      Here is the "sitting on two chairs" Old Man. But you could get it off as “partners” with Alyasochka smile

      I don’t quite understand about “normal practice”. From 2016 sthe formation of the Unified Air Defense System of Belarus and Russia has completed. CSTO, however, exists.
      What is the rental fee ??? If payment for energy resources is one thing, and full payment of the lease of a military base is somewhat different. "Face" does not crack!? hi
  2. SNEAKY
    SNEAKY 14 February 2018 18: 16
    +12
    laughing I can see it straight out of the window. I can’t understand one thing. Why does Lukashenka want a rent? What do the bodyguards pay him for being on duty on the porch?
    1. COJIDAT
      COJIDAT 14 February 2018 18: 19
      +6
      He is greedy, Lukashenko
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 14 February 2018 18: 21
        +11
        Quote: COJIDAT
        He is greedy, Lukashenko

        Very greedy, does not allow anyone to rob Belarusians. Pathologically greedy, even he does not rob them. smile
        1. SNEAKY
          SNEAKY 14 February 2018 18: 30
          +12
          Old Man, yes. Young man. I just kept a letter with a “parasite” invoice for me. And here is a whole military facility, as he once called "thieves and bandits."
          Well, he’s not sorry for any Qatari friends for hectares of hunting grounds. Not Russians, after all, requiring payment at least for preferential energy resources.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 14 February 2018 18: 25
        +3
        Well, for whom he is greedy, and to whom not.
        Quote: COJIDAT
        He is greedy, Lukashenko
      3. Igor V
        Igor V 14 February 2018 19: 53
        +3
        Quote: COJIDAT
        He is greedy, Lukashenko

        To Tajikistan, we pay for the rental of land on which the Window complex stands in the amount of one Tajik ruble per year. (I do not remember what it is called). This is Rahmon greedy! Rygorych could take an example.
    2. Inquisitive
      Inquisitive 14 February 2018 18: 22
      +1
      Quote: SNEAKY
      laughing I can see it straight out of the window. I can’t understand one thing. Why does Lukashenka want a rent? What do the bodyguards pay him for being on duty on the porch?

      This is a common procedure, designed to ensure that after a year it is not announced: you have a month to deadline and that you are not on our land. It’s like building a private house in a foreign country on the basis of an oral agreement.
    3. Simon
      Simon 14 February 2018 18: 23
      +1
      Well, where to go now - a mutual benefit! request
      1. Sergeant71
        Sergeant71 14 February 2018 18: 42
        +8
        Benefit? Are you sure that the country, which is already sitting on the neck of the budget of the Russian Federation, also needs to pay for the base, which, as it were, Belarus is protecting? You have some strange concept of benefit. Why don't we pay Kyrgyzstan and Syria? Have not you thought?
        1. 210ox
          210ox 14 February 2018 19: 18
          +4
          And why do you think that we do not pay Kyrgyzstan? Even how we pay! And we regularly write off debts. About Syria, there is a separate topic, there the higher mind (gas and oil) is driving.
          Quote: Sergeant71
          Benefit? Are you sure that the country, which is already sitting on the neck of the budget of the Russian Federation, also needs to pay for the base, which, as it were, Belarus is protecting? You have some strange concept of benefit. Why don't we pay Kyrgyzstan and Syria? Have not you thought?
        2. Cutter
          Cutter 15 February 2018 01: 59
          +3
          Quote: Sergeant71
          Benefit? Are you sure that the country, which is already sitting on the neck of the budget of the Russian Federation, also needs to pay for the base, which, as it were, Belarus is protecting? You have some strange concept of benefit. Why don't we pay Kyrgyzstan and Syria? Have not you thought?

          And who said that Belarus is sitting on the neck of Russia's budget ????
          I won’t speak for Kyrgyzstan, but don’t tell with whom (the most combat-ready) conduct exercises REGULARLY ???? But do not tell me who will take (as an ally!) The first blow to himself ???? And with whom is a single air defense system? But do not tell me, is it with whom we have no border or customs ???? But by chance you don’t know that even in Armenia the NATO headquarters is open (although it doesn’t function, it’s not a problem, the change of power, but it’s already there!) And in Moldova already (I’m silent about Ukraine).
          Maybe you need to THINK, we are not such a parasite ...
          1. serriy
            serriy 15 February 2018 11: 05
            0
            It’s just great “there is no border, no customs” - tangerines, bananas and coconuts from Belarus, tuna from its seas.
            And according to "greedy, not greedy", after all, after such an early request, the price will certainly be set, a new one. So we are waiting for the continuation of the story. hi
  3. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 14 February 2018 18: 26
    +7
    Good ally. Protects his seat for Russian money.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 February 2018 19: 26
      +11
      You know, Belarusians are not only protecting their seat .. For twenty years or so they are covering our fifth point .. In the Smolensk region there were no soldiers, well, not really. There is an Air Defense Academy, a couple of units in Vyazma in Yelny. And that’s all .. 400 versts to Moscow .. The truth is now being strengthened, I left there for six years and I don’t know the reality as it is now. Who covered it then?
      Quote: Sergeant71
      Good ally. Protects his seat for Russian money.
    2. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 14 February 2018 19: 45
      +7
      And in Russia, what money is there to protect the seats? The prime minister said that you supposedly hang on there, and then all of a sudden Belarus was drawn on a skinny Russian neck? Can you confuse something there? Look, Ukraine seems to have come off the Russian neck for a long time, but why didn’t it add money in the budget for retirement ???
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 14 February 2018 18: 32
    +5
    If necessary, they will agree and extend the agreement.
  5. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 14 February 2018 18: 50
    +13
    474th Separate Radio Engineering Unit (ORTU) (Node "Baranovichi", ORTU "Gantsevichi").
    - All real estate and land occupied by Volga were transferred to the Russian side for use for a period of 25 years without levying all types of taxes, except taxes related to economic activity. Belarus also does not require payment for the use of communication channels. In exchange for the signing of an agreement, an agreement was reached on partial cancellation of the debt of the Republic of Belarus for energy. The Belarusian side also receives information on the rocket and space situation and the ability to use Russian training ranges for live firing of its air defense systems for leasing a site. By the way, about 200 citizens of Belarus work at the facilities serving the site.

    43rd communications center of the Russian Navy (Radio station "Vileyka")
    The 43rd communications center operates on the basis of an intergovernmental agreement of January 6, 1995 for a period of 25 years. According to him, the node does not have the status of a military base. The real estate of the radio station specified in the appendix to the Agreement is the property of Belarus. In addition, Russia provides Belarus with information free of charge on the transmission of signals from the State system of unified time and reference frequencies of the Russian Federation using a radio station.
    1. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 14 February 2018 19: 07
      +5
      That's right. Briefly and to the point. Respect.
  6. bald
    bald 14 February 2018 18: 50
    +2
    Something in a hurry, a lot can change over the year, both technically and in politics.
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 14 February 2018 18: 51
    +3
    Need to renew the lease! There, at stake and Belarus, security is not only ours!
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 14 February 2018 20: 57
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Need to renew the lease! There, at stake and Belarus, security is not only ours!

      I remembered !!!
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 14 February 2018 21: 13
        +2
        Here is the whole thing!
  8. Simon
    Simon 14 February 2018 18: 53
    +8
    Quote: Sergeant71
    Benefit? Are you sure that the country, which is already sitting on the neck of the budget of the Russian Federation, also needs to pay for the base, which, as it were, Belarus is protecting? You have some strange concept of benefit. Why don't we pay Kyrgyzstan and Syria? Have not you thought?

    It’s still profitable for us! Our bases are the first in Belarus, on the cover of our borders. What do you want our troops to stand on the borders with Belarus! Now tell me how much the combat readiness of our troops can be reduced if they stand at the Belarusian borders on our territory when approaching enemy missiles and planes! That’s the whole question! It's not about money - it's about combat readiness and the protection of our territory! fool
    1. Don
      Don 14 February 2018 19: 07
      +9
      Quote: Simon
      It’s still profitable for us! Our bases are the first in Belarus, on the cover of our borders. What do you want our troops to stand on the borders with Belarus! Now tell me how much the combat readiness of our troops can be reduced if they stand at the Belarusian borders on our territory when approaching enemy missiles and planes! That’s the whole question! It's not about money - it's about combat readiness and the protection of our territory! fool

      I’m embarrassed to ask, what Belarusian bases are our troops at? belay They wanted to place an air base in Baranavichy, so the Old Man sent Russia to the hairdryer. And the 2 objects mentioned in this article are not bases either. Unless of course you had in mind our naval base in the Belorussian Sea. This yes, terrifies the mattresses lol
      1. sapporo1959
        sapporo1959 14 February 2018 19: 57
        +4
        Oh, this base with Edren Feney to Putin himself! Well, Lukashenka is like he and Putin can even Medvedev. Well, let alone the worried Russian patriots ... All right, okay with the base. Anyway, in Russia there’s no money for it either. The bridge and the Olympics have undermined economic health, of course. Eighteen years saved up money saved up, but they write that already and in a new way it is necessary to start saving.
    2. Sergeant71
      Sergeant71 14 February 2018 19: 08
      +5
      Don't bullshit. We have NATO in the Baltic States 20 years worth 200 miles from St. Petersburg. You there "approach of planes and missiles" does not bother you? Do we have a lot of troops there, except for the orangers? Yes, they are almost not there. But do not want to still answer the question, why does Kyrgyzstan and Syria have the conscience not to beg for money for their own protection? Or is there no answer to uncomfortable questions? Show yourself fool
      1. zhekazs
        zhekazs 14 February 2018 19: 38
        +2
        Quote: Sergeant71
        Do we have a lot of troops there, except for the orangers? Yes, they are almost not there.

        Everything is there. Travel around the Leningrad region, but look.
      2. sviazist
        sviazist 14 February 2018 20: 12
        +7
        Well, do not renew the contract. What is the problem. In general, with such a level of thinking ... Although sergeant 71 is a sergeant what to take from him. Although ... Take a shovel and go dig an artificial lake for the antenna mirror. You don’t need Vileyka. You might be smarter at the same time. You’ll dig while. Economist.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 14 February 2018 20: 57
          +4
          Quote: sviazist
          .. Although sergeant71 is the sergeant what to take from him. Though...

          Never mind!
          1. sviazist
            sviazist 14 February 2018 21: 04
            +7
            Yes, this miracle in the branch about the supply of Su-30 has already piled up. How to convey to him that Belarus and Russia are ALLIES. And we have one enemy - NATO.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 14 February 2018 21: 24
              +6
              Quote: sviazist
              . How to convey to him that Belarus and Russia are ALLIES. And we have one enemy - NATO

              You know, most likely this is a useless exercise, these are victims of zombie propaganda. But everyone is to blame for everything, they will start yelling that you live off our gas. wassatFrom myself I can say that Belarusians are true brothers to me. good drinks
              When I am in Minsk, I always visit the monument to the Warriors-Internationalists, once even at night a policeman opened the gate to me. Like this. soldier
              1. sviazist
                sviazist 14 February 2018 21: 27
                +6
                You are probably right. One figs because of this miracle warning slap.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 14 February 2018 21: 35
                  +5
                  Quote: sviazist
                  You are probably right. One figs because of this miracle warning slap.

                  Don’t worry, this is all garbage, thank God of sane people much more.
                  You better tell him if there are cheated real estate investors in Bolorussia. It will be a shock. And generally more about your life is positive. I know that you have migrants from cf. no Asia request
                  1. sviazist
                    sviazist 14 February 2018 21: 38
                    +6
                    There were interest holders in 2008. I heard about one case in Minsk. All scammers are convicted. There are practically no migrants. And those that are behaving decently.
                  2. sviazist
                    sviazist 14 February 2018 21: 41
                    +6
                    And there is no privatization in the "privatization" style. There were only Baumgertner walkers behind BelKali. They took from us, they let us go. Type chesnyya businessmen wassat And it would be necessary am
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 14 February 2018 23: 31
                      +4
                      If you write that in Belarus the officials live in the same apartments as doctors and teachers, that people don’t break their legs on the street in winter, because the street cleaners clean the paths to the asphalt, and they sprinkle sand on the paths, the uniform “chants” will label you “storyteller” . hi
                      1. sviazist
                        sviazist 14 February 2018 23: 52
                        +5
                        I don’t know about officials. They clean the roads, the tracks too. Sprinkle with sand. Legs break. Belarus is a fairy tale and not a paradise. We have enough of our own problems. But at the same time, the order is many times greater than in Russia. In short, we don’t have so much money to steal like that. And the country is smaller by orders of magnitude and therefore a mess several times smaller.
              2. sviazist
                sviazist 14 February 2018 21: 45
                +4
                We have a lot of Russians. I am from Brest. They often come to the fortress a lot.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 14 February 2018 23: 03
                  +6
                  Quote: sviazist
                  We have a lot of Russians. I am from Brest. They often come to the fortress a lot.

                  I have goosebumps Khatyn and Brest !!!
                  I remember from childhood, and when I arrived .. I’m completely stunned. soldier
                  1. sviazist
                    sviazist 14 February 2018 23: 57
                    +4
                    We often go for a walk with children in the fortress. It is hard to imagine a better place for patriotic education.
                    And the place there is really heroic. And holy.
    3. Igor V
      Igor V 14 February 2018 20: 00
      +5
      Quote: Simon
      Quote: Sergeant71
      Benefit? Are you sure that the country, which is already sitting on the neck of the budget of the Russian Federation, also needs to pay for the base, which, as it were, Belarus is protecting? You have some strange concept of benefit. Why don't we pay Kyrgyzstan and Syria? Have not you thought?

      It’s still profitable for us! Our bases are the first in Belarus, on the cover of our borders. What do you want our troops to stand on the borders with Belarus! Now tell me how much the combat readiness of our troops can be reduced if they stand at the Belarusian borders on our territory when approaching enemy missiles and planes! That’s the whole question! It's not about money - it's about combat readiness and the protection of our territory! fool

      If we talk about the former, then we must recall the Kaliningrad region. And there is Voronezh, and something else.
  9. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 14 February 2018 19: 16
    +10
    Gentlemen, renting these miserable objects in monetary terms. This is not a question of payment, but the issue of paperwork. And there’s no need to start a debate about "parasites", debts, etc.
    Ordinary relations within the framework of the allied states with the ONE military doctrine.
    Comrade Ryazanets expressed himself very succinctly on this subject.
    Quote: Ryazanets87
    474th Separate Radio Engineering Unit (ORTU) (Node "Baranovichi", ORTU "Gantsevichi").
    - All real estate and land occupied by Volga were transferred to the Russian side for use for a period of 25 years without levying all types of taxes, except taxes related to economic activity. Belarus also does not require payment for the use of communication channels. In exchange for the signing of an agreement, an agreement was reached on partial cancellation of the debt of the Republic of Belarus for energy. The Belarusian side also receives information on the rocket and space situation and the ability to use Russian training ranges for live firing of its air defense systems for leasing a site. By the way, about 200 citizens of Belarus work at the facilities serving the site.

    43rd communications center of the Russian Navy (Radio station "Vileyka")
    The 43rd communications center operates on the basis of an intergovernmental agreement of January 6, 1995 for a period of 25 years. According to him, the node does not have the status of a military base. The real estate of the radio station specified in the appendix to the Agreement is the property of Belarus. In addition, Russia provides Belarus with information free of charge on the transmission of signals from the State system of unified time and reference frequencies of the Russian Federation using a radio station.
  10. Old26
    Old26 14 February 2018 19: 17
    +4
    Quote: Thrall
    Normal practice. In advance, without nerves and tantrums.

    Especially Vileyka is needed. "Volga" - the object is not as relevant as it was 20 years ago. Yes, and so soon have to write off. She already has a replacement
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 14 February 2018 22: 52
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      Especially Vileyka is needed.

      We will not disclose ... but Vileyka for missile defense is not so relevant, it performs more duplicate functions ... I don’t know for boats, but they also switch to a new generation of communications
  11. Black joe
    Black joe 14 February 2018 19: 47
    +1
    Extend for 200 years
  12. Old26
    Old26 14 February 2018 20: 00
    +4
    Quote: Black Joe
    Extend for 200 years

    Why so few. They would have written for 1000 years, or for 10
  13. Simon
    Simon 14 February 2018 20: 05
    +3
    Quote: sapporo1959
    And in Russia, what money is there to protect the seats? The prime minister said that you supposedly hang on there, and then all of a sudden Belarus was drawn on a skinny Russian neck? Can you confuse something there? Look, Ukraine seems to have come off the Russian neck for a long time, but why didn’t it add money in the budget for retirement ???

    I wonder where? In Ukraine or in Russia, specify! I personally added a pension, I'm not complaining, enough!
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 14 February 2018 20: 51
      +4
      Well, at least one happy pensioner I met who had enough for everything. Keep it up! I think the motherland will not forget you, but happy Medvedev, even at a meeting, will kiss you like Leonid Ilyich at one time ... Once again, well done!
  14. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 14 February 2018 20: 14
    +1
    Quote: Thrall
    Normal practice. In advance, without nerves and tantrums.
    Here is the "sitting on two chairs" Old Man. But you could get it off as “partners” with Alyasochka smile

    Do not tell Gop, until 2020 another two years, maybe closer to the end of 2019, Old Man and cheeks and lips will pout? Was it already?
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 14 February 2018 20: 52
      +1
      Well, yes. Power will change in Russia, and then look for the ends ...
  15. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 14 February 2018 20: 18
    +3
    Quote: sapporo1959
    Oh, this base with Edren Feney to Putin himself! Well, Lukashenka is like he and Putin can even Medvedev. Well, let alone the worried Russian patriots ... All right, okay with the base. Anyway, in Russia there’s no money for it either. The bridge and the Olympics have undermined economic health, of course. Eighteen years saved up money saved up, but they write that already and in a new way it is necessary to start saving.

    Are you drinking
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 14 February 2018 21: 05
      +2
      What to drink if the Russian pension does not mean such excesses ...?
  16. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 14 February 2018 20: 18
    +1
    Node "Baranovichi" missile warning system (located in Gantsevichi)

    Why the hell is this RF collapse needed, it will be quietly replaced by other RF radars in the western part of the country ....
    Vileyka radio stations (zonal communication point WSF RF)

    Performs the functions of the communications center of the Russian Navy, primarily with SSBN / PLA of the Russian Federation located in the North Atlantic, if it is not practical to build a new one on the territory of the Russian Federation, then it is necessary to modernize with an extension of the lease term ...
  17. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 14 February 2018 20: 22
    +2
    Quote: sapporo1959
    And in Russia, what money is there to protect the seats? The prime minister said that you supposedly hang on there, and then all of a sudden Belarus was drawn on a skinny Russian neck? Can you confuse something there? Look, Ukraine seems to have come off the Russian neck for a long time, but why didn’t it add money in the budget for retirement ???

    How do you know, dear, about pensions? Don't talk nonsense, even though I am a military pensioner, I also felt the increase in December, when the second (in January) was listed before the New Year! Mother, a civilian pensioner, also received an increase, so your lie!
    And do not read you Echo at night!
  18. Simon
    Simon 14 February 2018 20: 24
    +1
    Quote: Igor V
    Quote: Simon
    Quote: Sergeant71
    Benefit? Are you sure that the country, which is already sitting on the neck of the budget of the Russian Federation, also needs to pay for the base, which, as it were, Belarus is protecting? You have some strange concept of benefit. Why don't we pay Kyrgyzstan and Syria? Have not you thought?

    It’s still profitable for us! Our bases are the first in Belarus, on the cover of our borders. What do you want our troops to stand on the borders with Belarus! Now tell me how much the combat readiness of our troops can be reduced if they stand at the Belarusian borders on our territory when approaching enemy missiles and planes! That’s the whole question! It's not about money - it's about combat readiness and the protection of our territory! fool

    If we talk about the former, then we must recall the Kaliningrad region. And there is Voronezh, and something else.

    Do not forget that during the conduct of hostilities the Kaliningrad region will be cut off, because of this, ammunition will be delivered to them problematically, not like to Belarus. Do not forget that the Americans stumbled their bases throughout Europe, and we have only Belarus, Kaliningrad and Crimea.
  19. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 14 February 2018 20: 45
    +4
    Guys, only war is not necessary. And then, because of a simple request to extend the lease of military facilities, such battles went ... Kaliningrad, troops at the border, who owes what, what needs to be modernized ... wink Several people laid out the packing clearly and clearly, thanks to them.
  20. Old26
    Old26 14 February 2018 20: 48
    +1
    Quote: Simon
    Do not forget that during the conduct of hostilities the Kaliningrad region will be cut off, because of this, ammunition will be delivered to them problematically, not like to Belarus. Do not forget that the Americans stumbled their bases throughout Europe, and we have only Belarus, Kaliningrad and Crimea.

    If, God forbid, this begins, then simultaneously with the Kaliningrad region attack and Belarus. So it is equivalent
  21. Radikal
    Radikal 15 February 2018 01: 23
    0
    (zone contact point of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation)
    . VSF RF is what?