A car with Israeli soldiers hit a mine

The press service of the Israel Defense Forces confirms information about the bombing of a paramilitary patrol car in the West Bank. On Twitter, the press service reported that Israeli soldiers after patrolling the area were repairing the fence between Israeli and Palestinian territories. It is noteworthy that such work is called “routine”.

From the material of the press service of the IDF:

Our servicemen performed routine work by repairing the fence next to the minefield. After that, the army vehicle hit a mine - the car was blown up, several soldiers were slightly injured.

It is stated that a total of injured - 7 people. Two were delivered for examination and treatment to the nearest clinic by helicopter.

The message that for the delivery of two wounded had to urgently use a helicopter, somewhat weakly fits in with a statement about minor injuries.

Judging by the photos, the mine completely destroyed the back of the army Ford.

On the eve of Israel, as a result of an accident in which a truck rammed three army vehicles, two servicemen of the Golani brigade were killed and another 10 military was injured. The two dead Israeli Defense Ministry decided to posthumously raise the ranks.

Comments

[Inquisitive]

The soldier is a pity, because people are involuntary, but apparently the mine was Israeli? We read: "doing the repair of the fence near the minefield.".

[Chertt]

If the photograph is genuine, then there’s no need to talk about lightly wounded, Our sympathies

[210ox]

Yes, someone seriously messed up there. Although a terrorist attack is possible. Wounded recovery.

Quote: Chertt

If the photograph is genuine, then there’s no need to talk about lightly wounded, Our sympathies

[Thrall]

Why is Russia in the ring of NATO, but doesn’t mine its borders?
Why is Russia “fighting” with Ukraine, whose troops cross the border, seeking salvation?
Maybe it's time to stop making enemies around the perimeter?

[Major Yurik]

It is a pity that the soldier’s share in the zone of military conflicts is difficult and dangerous! Condolences to family and friends!

[Shurik70]

Quote: 210ox

Although a terrorist attack is possible

The attack is next to the fence and the minefield, where regular patrols and cameras are poked around almost every square meter?
No, there are some among the Palestinians who can try - I believe. But that they would not be noticed in this territory - no. Someone made a mistake, either the driver, or the miner, or the one who set the task to the driver. Understand, and quickly.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Thrall

Maybe it's time to stop making enemies around the perimeter?

How is that? Let's see the perimeter:
List of countries bordering Russia:
Norway
Finland
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania (with the Kaliningrad region)
Poland (with Kaliningrad region)
Byelorussia
Ukraine
Abkhazia
Georgia
South Ossetia
Azerbaijan
Kazakhstan
Mongolia
China
DPRK
Japan (maritime border)
USA (maritime border)
Which of them has Russia made enemies with?
What is the recipe for not making money? Smile more often or get up at four points, to the "forest backwards"!

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Thrall Maybe it's time to stop making enemies around the perimeter?

Whose cow would mumble .... long ago removed the sanctions from Belarus?
And what does Russia and NATO have to do with it, if an article about Israel, are you our provocateur?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, someone seriously messed up there. Although a terrorist attack is possible. Wounded recovery.

Quote: Chertt

If the photograph is genuine, then there’s no need to talk about lightly wounded, Our sympathies

This is not a terrorist attack. Old minefields. They were installed in the 60 years. Unfortunately mine clearance is very slow. Not the first case. A couple of years ago, a parachutist-athlete landed on a minefield and lost his leg from the explosion.

[Lord of the Sith]

My condolences. We have in the Donbass, they say they will mine, 10 years.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Old minefields. . . Unfortunately mine clearance is very slow

If they weren’t needed, they would have been cleared for a long time. Not for nothing that they set up fences and continue to set them up. So I doubt that the government regrets the "slow" clearance. Well, I suppose that they no longer set mines just because modern electronics can reliably detect the intruder. It is cheaper to send a patrol to intercept violators several times than to mine a dozen kilometers of the border.

[Xnumx vis]

echo of war ...

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Aaron Zawi paratrooper athlete and lost his leg from an explosion

You’re breaking right into a “tear," and who organized these minefields, aliens?

[Ncplc]

Minefields are mostly old Syrian, Jordanian minefield maps are not present, it is difficult to mine.

[Kasym]

My condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims.
What Israelis like, photos and information about incidents are posted without any secrecy by the security forces. Thus, they cut off any ground for rumors.

[vlad66]

Quote: neri73-r

read carefully

Read Colleague!

On the eve of Israel, as a result of an accident in which a truck rammed three army vehicles, two soldiers were killed

[neri73-r]

In order not to argue, deleted.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: Kasym

What Israelis like, photos and information about incidents are posted without any secrecy by the security forces.

Something photo for the article does not fit with the information ....

[vlad66]

It is noteworthy that this work was called "routine."

The maintenance of the barrier structures is generally routine, or is it necessary to conduct a military operation. But judging by the photo, it was not weak that the wounded had a speedy recovery and health. Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Inquisitive

The soldier is a pity, because people are involuntary, but apparently the mine was Israeli? We read: "doing the repair of the fence near the minefield.".

Mines could have been Jordanian, this borderline is already 50 years old, but that's not the point. Lately there have been heavy torrential rains, and there are silty and sandy soils of the former riverbed. Could water streams blur and put on the primer.

[Herculesic]

And why not demine this field, "or do the women still give birth to the women?"

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Herkulesich

And why not demine this field, "or do the women still give birth to the women?"

When the UPP, led by Yasir Arafat after the Israeli victory in the 1967 war, relocated to Jordan, and from there continuously carried out raids, because of the difficult and rugged topography of the Jordan’s shallow canyons, it was extremely difficult for the Israelis to control the new border line. Then it was decided to turn the entire border strip into a zone of trenches, mines, fences. There are partly old Jordanian barriers, partly ours. All this business is already 40-50 years. Looks like this:

There are five such rows. Far, just from the spines of greater or lesser sparseness. Near, with electronic sensors and cameras. Where more, where less. I doubt that soon there will be engaged in mine clearance. There are more important things to do.

[Maz]

More importantly, is it to climb into Syria?

[Professor]

Quote: A. Privalov

Mines could have been Jordanian, this border line has been 50 for years, but that is not the point.

On Twitter, the press service reported that Israeli soldiers after patrolling the area fixed the fence between the Israeli and Palestinian territories.

The border between Israel and Jordan, and not the Fylisty. And the mines are most likely ours. There are a dime a dozen.

[A. Privalov]

According to the report, it happened in the area of ​​Qasr al-Yahud. This is the place of baptism. So, there are probably Jordanian mines. Although it is on the right bank of the Jordan, there was no free approach to the river until a peace treaty.

Tensions between Israel and Jordan persisted until the middle of the 1990-s, until an agreement was reached in October 1994, and Jordan King Hussein and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin signed a peace treaty. He regulated all major aspects of relations between countries, from political issues to cooperation in the religious sphere, but the problem of demining border areas was not identified in it.
As a result, by the year 1996, in the minefields on the west bank of the Jordan, only small passages were cleared, providing work for archaeological expeditions in this region. After the researchers announced at the end of the 1990s that they had discovered the place of the baptism of Christ in Jordan - ancient Bethabara, or Bethany, the volumes of pilgrimage and religious tourism in Israel began to grow steadily. However, mine clearance took several years, and only by 2001, the place of baptism became available for worship.
In 2011, the Israeli Knesset (Parliament) passed the Minefield Clearance Act, and in 2012, the Mine Action Commission was established, which began a targeted and systematic clearing of minefields. Work began with mine clearance of the Arava Valley in 2012.
According to media reports, in 2012, in the Qasr al-Yahud area from Israel, there were about 1,5 thousand not mined mines, and the total number of mines on the west bank of the Jordan River, according to the Israel Defense Ministry, was estimated at 12 thousand.
Until now, the Jordan Valley is a well-fortified area on the part of both states, and visiting the site of Baptism on both the Israeli and Jordanian banks involves the need to comply with a number of military requirements.

[Simple]

In some places along the coast of the Netherlands there are still spikes with signs and signs with sea access.
He wanted to take a walk there along the dunes; they shouted to me that they say it’s better not to go.

[A. Privalov]

Well, I was right:

A group of engineer engineers was sent to the Vivafara area on the Jordan River (a tourist site known as the baptism site of Jesus Christ) to repair a fence around an old minefield left over from the Jordanian occupation.
But the jeep in which they were driving, flew into the mine M-15, which, apparently, carried over the fence by the water flows during the rains and covered with sand.
As a result of the incident, no one died or was seriously injured - all seven “army engineers” with relatively minor injuries were taken to hospital.

[MOSKVITYANIN]

A. Privalov This border line is already 50 years old, but that’s not the point. The last time there was heavy torrential rains, and there are silty-sandy soils of the former river bed. Could wash away water streams and put on the primer

Israeli soldiers after patrolling the area fixed the fence between Israeli and Palestinian territories

At least they lied under the "legend of the article", in the photo you can’t see any fence ....
Most likely, the fighters for the freedom and independence of the Arab lands occupied by Israel, removed your mines and put them on the path of the IDF patrol ....

I never trusted Israeli Jews, everyone will hang noodles on the ears ...

[Maz]

Mlyn, every day a terrorist attack or two in the country, and they climb into Syria. Needless to say - Brilliant.

[Professor]

Quote: Maz

Mlyn, every day a terrorist attack or two in the country, and they climb into Syria. Needless to say - Brilliant.

So take your daughter out of Israel to your Ukraine if it is so dangerous here.

[Maz]

Yes, she has long shied away all over Europe, full of girlfriends. It is beautiful there, and people are polite, well-mannered, and cultural, and art understand and appreciate, and dress stylishly, they have a normal taste, and not spoiled and perverted. So, sho Docha - everything is OK. Do not chew.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Maz

Mlyn, every day a terrorist attack or two in the country, and they climb into Syria. Needless to say - Brilliant.

Maz why does it bother you? Live your own life. Where are you and where is Israel.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Maz

Mlyn, every day a terrorist attack or two in the country, and they climb into Syria. Needless to say - Brilliant.

Maz why does it bother you? Live your own life. Where are you and where is Israel.

you, too, seemingly not on an Israeli site !! or I don’t know something !!!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

you, too, seemingly not on an Israeli site !! or I don’t know something !!!

Find my comment on the topic about Russia?

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Nikolai Grek

you, too, seemingly not on an Israeli site !! or I don’t know something !!!

Find my comment on the topic about Russia?

that is, you hold me for an idiot, posing the question in such a clumsy way ??? Do you think your statement about Russia in the topic is not about Russia, a priori does not count ??? Do you often succeed in getting someone to breed ?? I didn’t have to search long !!! By the way, they quarreled with me !!!

Aron Zawi February 11, 2018 20:51 | Israel officially recognized that the F-16 fighter was shot down by Syrian air defense
Quote: Nikolai Grek
Quote: IMH
Russia decided 8.8.08 that Ossetia and Abkhazia are included in its sphere of influence and their security
you have problems understanding the issue    South Ossetia and Abkhazia decided that they were not on the way with the Georgians, as a result of which all the events happened !!!   
If tomorrow Buryatia decides that it wants to become part of Mongolia, how will Moscow react?

you have over 8 thousand comments there ... do you really think that everything is connected to the current “your flag” ???

[Maz]

Well, yes, an Israeli citizen and Russia, well, in no way connected Yes, wherever you look, the tags are Russian or Soviet

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Aaron Zawi Maz why does it bother you?

AAA ... gee, and that some Israeli Jews can worry about Israel, but some can’t, when you stopped being a Soviet Jew yourself?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

AAA ... gee, and that some Israeli Jews can worry about Israel, but some can’t, when you stopped being a Soviet Jew yourself?

Here you are now Maza mortally offended. He emphasizes all the time that he is not a Jew.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: MOSKVITYANIN

AAA ... gee, and that some Israeli Jews can worry about Israel, but some can’t, when you stopped being a Soviet Jew yourself?

Here you are now Maza mortally offended. He emphasizes all the time that he is not a Jew.

Something you somehow ignored the material requested by you !!!

[Maz]

Yeah, that's the point. I'm a normal person. This is a very high rank and position. much higher than any nationality.

[XXXIII]

Quote: Maz

and they climb into Syria.

Yes, this is superfluous, but almost damn everywhere, they will wait for their affairs when they need to spoil the neighbor .....

[voyaka uh]

There are old minefields. Since the 70s of the last century. Every winter, rains wash mines. Both anti-personnel and anti-tank.
We drove into the 90s in a jeep on an anti-personnel. Tore the tire and escaped with a slight startle. Engineering units are constantly fixing an electronic fence there. They are undermined more often than others.

[tlauicol]

maybe "onihedety" damaged the fence, laid a mine near?

[Maki Avellevich]

"It is noteworthy that this work was called" routine. "

Does fencing support work for you?

"The two dead Israeli Defense Ministry decided to posthumously increase in rank.

as a rule, dead IDF soldiers are promoted

[Imh]

Not "as a rule", always + one title. There are no buried Turai, at least a discount.

[210ox]

Accept condolences. The wounded will recover ..

Quote: Maki Avellevich

"It is noteworthy that this work was called" routine. "

Does fencing support work for you?

"The two dead Israeli Defense Ministry decided to posthumously increase in rank.

as a rule, dead IDF soldiers are promoted

[poquello]

Quote: Maki Avellevich

"It is noteworthy that this work was called" routine. "
Does fencing support work for you?
"The two dead Israeli Defense Ministry decided to posthumously increase in rank.

as a rule, dead IDF soldiers are promoted

fixing the fence next to the minefield

damn it, but where is the fence and what then is the distance they designate with the word "nearby"?

[Herculesic]

Maki Avellyevich - so whose minefield, or rather your mines? ??

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Herkulesich

Maki Avellyevich - so whose minefield, or rather your mines? ??

Our. Minefield is old. It seems everyone knows where it is, but because of the rains, mines are washed out.

[Svarog51]

Aron, hello Recently there was an article about the use of luminous bacteria in the search for mines. How is it going?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Herkulesich

Maki Avellyevich - so whose minefield, or rather your mines? ??

we have places where these fields are a dime a dozen. it happens that Fri mines with rains walk and appear in the most unexpected places. on Ramat Ha Golan, enter the minefield as two fingers if you do not carefully follow the path. fences are not always repaired on time.

[sxfRipper]

Not so long ago, Sergey Pashkov (Russia 24) was reporting from there - it is, a step to the left, a step to the right ...

[The black]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

"The two dead Israeli Defense Ministry decided to posthumously increase in rank.
as a rule, dead IDF soldiers are promoted

And why is this done? Does this have any practical significance for relatives? or is it a kind of reward?

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Black

And why is this done? Does this have any practical significance for relatives? or is it a kind of reward?

for officer families has a retirement value.

[Okolotochny]

Good practice, by the way, I wish it to be applied as little as possible to your soldiers. I am about the principle. Plus one title ....

[The black]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

for officer families has a retirement value

Clear. Thank.

[Maz]

It would be nice to adopt - then the wife of the deceased officer or contractor pays higher.

[KVU-NSVD]

The day before in Israel, as a result of a traffic accident in which a truck rammed three army vehicles, two soldiers of the Golani brigade were killed and 10 more soldiers were injured.

Condolences to relatives and friends ...

[Simon]

And what, they have no sappers? Which could neutralize, during the work, these unfortunate mines!

[Maz]

I don’t see any remains of the fence that they supposedly repaired there. There is such a word in the army - rastredenystvo. So 90% of such cases are the consequences of squandering in the army and neglecting instructions. And only 10% is the result of an accident. And the Israelis are not saints, Meah Ahuz -100%

[polpot]

It is surprising to use such cars for patrolling or it is a truck for building materials.

[KonoGon]

completed the repair of the fence between the Israeli and Palestinian territories.

wrong, repairing a fence around a minefield. A car drove into a mine, therefore, apparently, the wounds were not heavy.

[flicker]

Bw one big mine

[Herculesic]

That is, as I understand it, they were blown up in their own mines?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Herkulesich

That is, as I understand it, they were blown up in their own mines?

Yes.

[Maz]

Why so bad. Our hectares in Syria are cleared of mine, the European countries have cleared mines. And the most selected mines cannot be removed or neutralized. Buy a trawl from Uralvagonzavod, Or three. Worship the mine clearance center of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Pay in the end, if the minds themselves lack. Or greed again stuck? The soldier is not sorry?

[Ascetic]

Quote: Maz

Or greed again stuck? The soldier is not sorry?

Rather, the bureaucracy, while in the Knesset will argue about adopting a mine clearance law or leaving fields just in case, replacing old mines with new ones, will create a bureaucratic authority to manage this process. They will calculate how much dough is needed. They will hold a tender among companies ... it’ll sweep many mines

[Svarog51]

So they themselves say that mines have been standing since the 70s of the last century.

Rather, the bureaucracy, while in the Knesset will argue about adopting a mine clearance law or leaving fields just in case, replacing old mines with new ones, will create a bureaucratic authority to manage this process. They will calculate how much dough is needed. They will hold a tender among companies ... it’ll sweep many mines

Could have done it all for half a century.

[Maz]

Unprofitable, there will be no gesheft.

[Dormidont]

I don't want to be a hypocrite

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Dormidont

I don't want to be a hypocrite

late

[APASUS]

The dead can no longer be returned, but to the wounded, a speedy recovery.
What is the story muddy, a fence in the midst of a minefield are? How do they determine the boundaries of the danger zone if they could run into themselves? Something is not being agreed ...............

[Xscorpion]

Quote: poquello

Quote: Maki Avellevich

"It is noteworthy that this work was called" routine. "
Does fencing support work for you?
"The two dead Israeli Defense Ministry decided to posthumously increase in rank.

as a rule, dead IDF soldiers are promoted

fixing the fence next to the minefield

damn it, but where is the fence and what then is the distance they designate with the word "nearby"?

In theory, there should be at least 200 meters between the border and the actual minefield. Maybe of course a mine and sailed such a distance as a result of floods and similar conditions, as a result of mudflows there were mines and carried kilometers in the Caucasus and Central Asia in the 90s, the echoes of the former war. Or everything is trite, the mine was set in advance on the routes of movement. If this was a routine, that is, daily work.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Xscorpion

In theory, between the border and the actual minefield should be at least 200 meters.

if we keep such a distance, we will have to abandon minefields.
little space here, however.

[Hurricane70]

Quote: Thrall

Why is Russia in the ring of NATO, but doesn’t mine its borders?
Why is Russia “fighting” with Ukraine, whose troops cross the border, seeking salvation?
Maybe it's time to stop making enemies around the perimeter?

Your words, yes to the Zionists in the ears!

[Hurricane70]

Quote: Maz

Mlyn, every day a terrorist attack or two in the country, and they climb into Syria. Needless to say - Brilliant.

Not that word!

[Galleon]

Sympathy for servants and recovery. Condolences to the families of the victims. Emergencies are in any army.
But "Ford" in Israel ??? Danube flowed back or the sky fell on Ishmael ??

[igor67]

Quote: Galleon

Sympathy for servants and recovery. Condolences to the families of the victims. Emergencies are in any army.
But "Ford" in Israel ??? Danube flowed back or the sky fell on Ishmael ??

what's the problem? my son now serves and the driver of the same SUV, only Dodge

[igor67]

The article describes two different cases with servicemen today. Two soldiers died in a road accident, a wagon crashed into the back of Hamer, an Arab driver, , undermining Ford, two were slightly injured

[Maz]

That is, I do not lie, and the attacks are skinny day. Q.E.D. Thanks Igor.

[Galleon]

Igor, I’m very surprised at Ford, because I met repeatedly the rejection of this brand in Israel because of the cooperation of this company with Hitler. Including I heard from the guide when I was with you 18 years ago on a pilgrimage trip. Apparently, something has changed since then.
And your son only has training alarms, but not combat ones.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Galleon

Igor, I’m very surprised at Ford, because met repeatedly the rejection of this brand in Israel because of the cooperation of this company with Hitler.

in the past there were moods of the current type, but now they also drive Mercedes with Opels.
the time.

[igor67]

Quote: Galleon

Igor, I’m very surprised at Ford, because I met repeatedly the rejection of this brand in Israel because of the cooperation of this company with Hitler. Including I heard from the guide when I was with you 18 years ago on a pilgrimage trip. Apparently, something has changed since then.
And your son only has training alarms, but not combat ones.

thank you very much, Ford is very common now, as is yours, especially the model (focus),

[Hurricane70]

Quote: professor

Quote: A. Privalov

Mines could have been Jordanian, this border line has been 50 for years, but that is not the point.

On Twitter, the press service reported that Israeli soldiers after patrolling the area fixed the fence between the Israeli and Palestinian territories.

The border between Israel and Jordan, and not the Fylisty. And the mines are most likely ours. There are a dime a dozen.

"Fiery?"
Again bile rushing from you? Jews were blown up on their own mine! Your fellow tribesmen calmly discuss, why are you rushing? Come on, your people are dead! And do not breed ethnic hatred here. Take advantage of the fact that there are no Palestinians in VO, there is no one to answer?

[Professor]

Quote: Hurricane70

Take advantage of the fact that there are no Palestinians in VO, there is no one to answer?

I’ll tell you one terrible secret. Only between us. OK? Palestinians do not exist not only in VO, but also in nature they do not exist. They became extinct several thousand years ago. Since then, there has been no Palestinian language, no Palestinian culture or writing. Nothing left of this people.

[kpotr]

They consider themselves Knaan now.

[Ascetic]

Quote: kpotr

They consider themselves Knaan now.

Canaanites and Philistines probably. Arafat claimed that he was their descendant. There are many versions here, and each side chooses the one that is more profitable for it to confirm the historical rights to the Promised Land.
At the genetic level, it has been proven that Arabs and Jews have common roots. almost one people, such as Russians and Ukrainians, Little Russians. In our country, many also deny the existence of a separate Ukrainian people and the artificial state of Ukraine, and in Israel they deny the existence of Palestinians as a separate people, they believe that Palestine, like Ukraine, is an artificially created state.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Ascetic

Canaanites and Philistines probably. Arafat claimed that he was their descendant.

Arafat looks more like a canyon lizard bolsv.
Damn his name.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

on the spot the Canaan lizard bolsv.

It turns out where the reptilians came from, now I will know

[MOLODCHIK]

not quite so .. plishtim (platea-invasion) the tribes of the Greeks who invaded our land and were destroyed during the invasion of the Babylonians are not Palestinians at all, as the Romans called us after the suppression of the Bar Kochba rebellion.
so they didn’t die, because this is what we are, if you already look at Rimmlyaninsky))) IMHO

[Neksel]

Quote: Hurricane70

"Fiery?"
Again bile rushing from you?

in Arabic, “Palestinians” - sounds like “fylystiniin”.

[Lacoste]

trifle, but nice)

[XXXIII]

A car with Israeli soldiers hit a mine

Give the guys mine detectors, since such a thing, or money is also a pity for life .....
The guys recover, the main thing is that all parts of the body are in place ...

[Svarog51]

Vladimir, welcome

Give the guys mine detectors, since such a thing

You mean this? And where did you see the "Jew with a hoe"? They need a "chopper with a motor." Well, like this.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Svarog51

And where did you see the "Jew with a hoe"?

here is the young generation in Shomron digging something

[Svarog51]

Dmitry, welcome Nah, don’t roll. One pickaxe, another hoe.

[gukoyan]

Well, what can I say ... This happens all the time.

[tranquil]

The main thing is that they are alive.

[Maz]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Maz

Mlyn, every day a terrorist attack or two in the country, and they climb into Syria. Needless to say - Brilliant.

Maz why does it bother you? Live your own life. Where are you and where is Israel.

Can you ask me permission to breathe, where and how? What will excite me, and what will please me? Think of yourself something? It is treated easily - with air defense missiles. In gauges. SU-35mi. You can simply not according to your passport. Easy. And not the first time.