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Polish media: Russia fails import substitution exam

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In January, Russian imports from Europe increased by more than 21% in annual terms. Purchases of grain, electronic equipment and meat increased the most, Polish journalist Ivona Trusevich wrote in an article published in the newspaper Rzeczpospolita.




“Data on January imports from the so-called foreign countries — the EU without the Baltic republics, Turkey, Norway, Iceland, the Balkans — prove its growth in the Russian Federation, and the Kremlin’s import substitution policy fails the exam,” the article quotes InoTV.

Referring to the data of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation on imports in January, the journalist notes that the annual growth rate was 21,1% (in monetary terms, the import volume reached $ 13,7 billion). In general, Russians import: “Machines and devices (50%), chemical products (19,2%), as well as clothes and shoes (7,4%)”.

According to the newspaper, the largest increase was recorded in the grain group - 41,1%. “Russia is one of the largest exporters of wheat in the world, but for production where high quality grain is required, it uses imports,” writes Trusevich.

Purchases of alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages abroad increased by 34%, electronic equipment - by 34,1%, meat and sausage products - by 32,7%.

Half of Russian imports at cost "accounted for machinery and equipment for industry - $ 6,5 billion, followed by: chemical products ($ 2,6 billion), food ($ 1,8 billion), textiles and footwear ($ 1 billion)," concludes author.
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  1. bazzbazz
    bazzbazz 14 February 2018 15: 19
    +9
    ... "so far only a word has been invented, Import Substitution" ...) Yes, it seems to me personally that the pace is not the same. But how will the managers live without import?
    1. Russia
      Russia 14 February 2018 15: 22
      +25
      Those researchers, even if they analyze their rise in the economy, Ukrainians have already announced this.
      1. Logall
        Logall 14 February 2018 15: 28
        +15
        Their problems are their problems! And you don’t notice your own - to bend to the west .... They are waiting for this - the bad, criminal government of our state!
        And “Vanya” took his hat, thinks he’ll throw it now, swing it ... But no, he waved it ... Vrazhina!
        1. cniza
          cniza 14 February 2018 15: 35
          +17
          Half of Russian imports at cost "accounted for machinery and equipment for industry - $ 6,5 billion, followed by: chemical products ($ 2,6 billion), food ($ 1,8 billion), textiles and footwear ($ 1 billion)," concludes author.


          This suggests that solvency has increased for traditional goods that we have always purchased and that ...
          1. zloybond
            zloybond 14 February 2018 16: 52
            +45
            These are just statistics. What goes to the country through customs. There is no fun. Our grain is really mostly fodder. You can’t argue with such quality. I know from my fields. A lot of truth is bought seed. here it is necessary to clarify all the same. What can I say if I myself watched the picture when the milk carrier enters Reutov in a fire, takes water and goes on the sale of fresh milk to the city (barrel, fresh, fresh from under the cow, one hundred percent, blah blah blah). We even already buy milk abroad. Clothing, shoes - well, this trouble is known to us. According to shoe statistics, we have a shortage of production. Their factories can maximum if not mistaken 1 pair for 5 people. We import the rest. So for businessmen this field is not plowed. Clothes - a lot comes from Europe. But in fact, this Europe is sewn in the same China or Bangladesh, and then it sends us super type super. I can personally confirm this. The familiar manufacturer from Bangladesh sews millions of pieces under European contracts for pennies only from his workshops of every wrangler and levise. Well, much more is being done like in Europe. Let's say CCTV systems. Figurines of their Chinas. Then
            For example, they are sent to Italians, and the Italians send us their own type of brand under the contract. Take off the blotch, and underneath the kettle. Of course, this is just a cut scheme. Bought for 20 ty, resold to Moscow as Europroduct for 250 ty. This is how the public procurement system works for us. Also not a problem - I can confirm. Yes, and I think you can handle it. Someone read the comparison with bananas - really invigorates. Well, recently the engine on the frigate has become so. But for how many years we squealed Bordeaux from the sofas that the Chinese and Viet Cong were lifted from palm trees, taught to live. That we are so smart and cool. And now, let's smart ones just look at the statistics of customs goods no longer from Poland, but from the Asian backward region to Russia and vice versa. We are right to them raw materials. We are cool. And they, guess! The main shaft is electronics technology. They are sitting on palm trees. And further. I saw a peppy sofa movie about mini tractors Uralets. What is our super duper production. I was looking for a minicar for the fields. Found! Chelyabinsk Uralets. Of course, the Chinese units are our screwdriver assembly. Well, why the heck it was all over the country to spin ads about a new super tractor factory, when every peasant knows that this is a teapot! Who are we trying to cheat cheerfully? In the port of Kavkaz there is a tanker with a string of palm oil. We have super duper Kuban products. Today, with my daughter, for half an hour in Magnet, I climbed looking for glazed curds for tea so that there would be a natural product. So what? Guess or suggest? Of course I did not find it, everything goes if you read on a small package in super small print with palm oil, substitutes, flavors, and more.
            We have PR Abrau Durso champagne. Domestic raw materials, blah blah blah .... Coming on an excursion to the plant, the guide openly does not hesitate to say Russian words that the plant with its existing plantations cannot produce so many wines on the market with their label. Grapes are missing their own. Therefore, wine material comes from South Africa ..... And the label Abrau is molded on the output .... well, etc.
            ..... Well, to whom are we sitting here and are trying to prove something ?????? For whom are there so many patriotically pouted cheeks ???
            Most of the people sitting here on the site live in the same country, walk on the same streets. They see the same as others. Many can give a lot of such examples. Just a patriotic peppy one should somehow measure out. Bravura speech agitation can be written and spoken as much as you like. The question is different. For whom???
            Very rarely I meet real people working on the site. Production workers. Something really done and doing. It is strange to read plankton speeches that have no real idea of ​​what they are writing about. Just apparently the task is to shout down.
            The site will soon really need a name like agitprop to do. The noise is, the rags are burning ... the smoke is coming .... and everyone is laughing ....
            ... And all .... except for conversations, except to send or defame or scold. What is really real here? 1% of everything written. You even read the comments in this thread and analyze yourself. How many sensible, and how many would only yell for the dad or against the dad. I think only people who have knowledge in this area can comment. All the rest of the garbage is like husks from seeds on the road - it must be swept away so as not to clog it. It's like graffiti. As Vysotsky said about it: you are not goodies, you don’t shine with your mind, your heads are full of shit ...
            The site has turned into some kind of trash, not even dialogue and polemics .. but just a voice noise ............
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 14 February 2018 16: 59
              +7
              Quote: zloybond
              The site has turned into some sort of trash

              And for this there are so many bukafs? And the closer the beats, the more
              1. Viktor.12.71
                Viktor.12.71 14 February 2018 18: 44
                +8
                Quote: Piramidon
                And for this there are so many bukafs? And the closer the beats, the more

                Well, yes, whoever is not with you is paid by the State Department.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 14 February 2018 20: 33
                  +7
                  Quote: Viktor.12.71
                  Well, yes, whoever is not with you is paid by the State Department.

                  Yes, not with some kind of "with us", but with normal people who have sorely seen enough of Svidomoidanutyh. I survived the 90s, I don’t want this anymore. Well, you download, push on the pots, and choose (which obviously will not work) the strawberry (how it differs from the chocolate) king. Not for nothing, one of the ancient sages said: "The worst curse is" that you live in an era of change "
                2. Lexus
                  Lexus 14 February 2018 21: 28
                  +20
                  Some, alas, have forgotten, others, due to their age, do not know what kind of “pipe” Muscovites rode for the drunken Leltsin in 1991. But it was precisely at that time that shit-democrats shouted reason - “we don’t want to wait for communism, we want sausage and a beautiful life tomorrow” (parallels with “lace panties and the EU”, aren't they). Then they applauded when the People’s Supreme Council shot at the “drunk”, to “music” - “there is no return to the past, industry and collective farms are not needed - you give everyone business, and the farmers will feed us!” (again a coincidence). Indeed, the country was flooded with implanted loans with “imports”: inedible “bush legs”, starchy sausage, all kinds of junk. Then they rejoiced at the fact that "the salary was detained only for six months, and the neighbor was not paid for years, so he feeds from the garden, and his mother helps with retirement." Frightened by the "brothers", the people sat and was afraid to utter a word, and "under the dressing" - "state property is ineffective" - ​​the extractive industry and other "tidbits" were pulled away. Then, for reasons beyond our control, the oil went up, and put pu on the throne. They paid off loans and began to "safely eat" excess profits from raw materials exports. Since then, little has changed, only oil has “fallen” several times, and with it the ruble - this is how the authorities cleaned up the last accumulations among ordinary citizens. Some people don’t even know that the country is simply “going with the flow,” and, in fact, nothing has been done and is not done for the well-being of citizens. By naivety they rejoice that "better than in the 90s." That’s why the regime doesn’t like to compare the economy with the Soviet era (there’s simply Nothing to be proud of now, and the level of the USSR under the shit, and it is they who “cover” the country, we will NEVER achieve), as if a failure in history since 1913 (it’s also no accident, because you need to suggest that "Russia urgently needs a king," it’s not difficult to guess who). A one-sided interpretation of history is put at the service of embezzlers and oligarchs.
                  It is precisely in the fact that it is important for the individual that “it could be worse, let it remain so”, and there are already enough empty-handed promises that “someday it will be better than today”, and the “fall” of society lies.
                  There are still others - those who are "at the trough." They just do not give a damn about those who, working, beggar (there are many of them), those who receive a social security pension (many received the salary "in an envelope" because there was no choice). It is about them
                  “A well-fed hungry one does not understand” (Proverb)

                  So you can scream as much as you like "Long live" pu - great and mighty ", but he stands guard only for his own interests and those close to him.
                  And import substitution is just a fiction, one of many.
                  All correctly small (zloybond) wrote. I overdid it a bit in that I brought down my anger on the members of the forum. hi
                  1. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 14 February 2018 22: 19
                    +6
                    Quote: lexus
                    So you can scream as much as you like "Long live" poo "- great and mighty"

                    Orient: “Long live the strawberry king, Russia is Europe. Well, nobody else’s rake with the chocolate king teaches you anything. You must definitely step on YOURSELF.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 14 February 2018 23: 17
                      +4
                      Quote: Piramidon
                      Orient: “Long live the strawberry king, Russia is Europe. Well, nobody else’s rake with the chocolate king teaches you anything. You must definitely step on YOURSELF.

                      Paramidon! wassat We didn’t shake hands with Potroshenko, but Putin was vouching, why would that be?
                      ё you all daldonite, "strawberry", so vote for Putin and his team, Medvedev, Chubais, Shuvalov, Surkov and Forbes, who forbids you? Come on.
                    2. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 14 February 2018 23: 28
                      +3
                      Piramidon
                      Yes, that's just someone else's rake that taught. When the power in the country is controlled from the embassy, ​​then Ukraine will seem like a paradise.
                      And our current government didn’t let them into the “European elite” with stolen grandmas, the image losses for Europe are big from a mug with a thief. So they decided to get lost on the spot, so to speak. You yell louder, as young people say “stoke for Putin” ... and you will be rewarded according to your deserts
                  2. Evpator33
                    Evpator33 14 February 2018 22: 31
                    +3
                    Quote: lexus
                    Under what "tune" Muscovites rode for drunk Leltsin in 1991

                    be fair, unless Muscovites?
                    Yeltsin in Novokuznetsk - see how many people!

                    Everyone wanted justice and a better life. Everything, not just Muscovites
                  3. aleksandr061
                    aleksandr061 14 February 2018 22: 43
                    +7
                    Especially for the sake of an answer I registered)
                    As correctly noted, he shouted at all and blamed for the clever) I have been producing consumer goods since 2001, while working closely with China in the supply of components. So, when you start to say that people should work in their beloved country, it’s enough to look for the guilty, damn eaters. I saw hundreds of factories in Russia, some lazy people and painful people, not hard work, not self-education, not a desire for anything. All Pu is to blame for you, but were in China? Have you seen how they work there? To make their country seem rich !!! The idiocy of the highest degree. Thank)))
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 14 February 2018 23: 27
                      +2
                      Quote: aleksandr061
                      Especially for the sake of an answer I registered)

                      It would be better if I didn’t regret at all, I’ve been reading your Trollar ravings for about 10 years, “start with yourself”, “if not who it is,” console yourself with Chinese charms for the night.
                      Quote: aleksandr061
                      The idiocy of the highest degree. Thank)))

                      Forever please, but for a person who is self-critical, please double, come again, tell us how we need to work. belay
                    2. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 15 February 2018 00: 06
                      +3
                      I have been in the production of consumer goods since 2001, while working closely with China in the supply of components.

                      Do you carry accessories from China? Not your own? Or foreign equipment?
                      1. tasha
                        tasha 15 February 2018 04: 30
                        0
                        Do you carry accessories from China? Not your own? Or foreign equipment?

                        You yourself below answer your question (comment about machine tools).
                3. Geisenberg
                  Geisenberg 15 February 2018 14: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Viktor.12.71
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  And for this there are so many bukafs? And the closer the beats, the more

                  Well, yes, whoever is not with you is paid by the State Department.


                  And how much does the State Department pay you?
            2. Oden280
              Oden280 14 February 2018 17: 30
              +4
              I do not like the site, the people and topics that are discussed here - get out of here and don't stink. Before you blame someone - do better.
              1. Non liberoid Russian
                Non liberoid Russian 14 February 2018 17: 45
                +13
                about how, that is, what if a different opinion, different from the general herd, means get out of here? smacks of brown mass
                1. Monos
                  Monos 14 February 2018 20: 25
                  +6
                  Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
                  about how, that is, what if a different opinion, different from the general herd, means get out of here? smacks of brown mass

                  This is not the case. He began, continued and ended with insults to people who just have a different opinion than his. This people and outraged. What's wrong? Or you can be rude, and the rest of the no-and-izya?
                2. free_flier
                  free_flier 15 February 2018 09: 25
                  +2
                  If it smells, then you obviously have to change the port.
                  1. Non liberoid Russian
                    Non liberoid Russian 15 February 2018 10: 53
                    0
                    life experience? I sympathize
              2. Viktor.12.71
                Viktor.12.71 14 February 2018 18: 46
                +14
                Quote: Oden280
                I do not like the site, the people and topics that are discussed here - get out of here and don't stink. Before you blame someone - do better.

                What have you done? The man expressed his opinion, and I agree with him 100%.
            3. Non liberoid Russian
              Non liberoid Russian 14 February 2018 17: 44
              +1
              Wait a hike ... with shoulder straps ... for the sake of an extra star, the post is riveted to their excuses
            4. Monos
              Monos 14 February 2018 17: 53
              +9
              SteppenWolf, what's the problem? Take it and do it. Get rich! Or do you think your govnomeanie on the Internet creates a useful product? smile
              As for import substitution ... As I understand it, this task was primarily set by defense state enterprises.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 15 February 2018 00: 09
                +2
                Quote: Monos
                SteppenWolf, what's the problem? Take it and do it. Get rich! Or do you think your govnomeanie on the Internet creates a useful product?

                Nifigase wassat Here goes mochilovo, just the same srach belay
                Quote: Monos
                As for import substitution ... As I understand it, this task was primarily set by defense state enterprises.

                Colleague! hi If you provide import substitution for the defense industry, and eat (eat, eat) this defense industry what will happen? May decrees? promises promise? Stone movie about a great strategist?
                You have clearly indicated the problem that they feed us with chemistry, at best, “palm trees”.
                The authorities are doing everything possible to make us smaller, it’s obvious. So the Minister of Agriculture needs ... to hell, only the leadership is not up to it, they have political problems, how can we squeeze the well in Syria too. such a homespun Russian truth. hi
                1. Monos
                  Monos 15 February 2018 00: 30
                  +5
                  Greetings, Airborne hi
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  You have clearly indicated the problem that they feed us with chemistry, at best, “palm trees”.

                  This is not what I indicated. But I must say, palm oil feeds the whole world, not just us. This is the policy of transnational corporations. And the resistance of this policy results in a geopolitical confrontation. Tops and do it. But the lower classes should replace harmful products with useful ones. I can say for myself that there are no problems with this. But my example is not typical - I work in a monastery, which at 90% provides itself with products. smile
                  1. Mih1974
                    Mih1974 15 February 2018 12: 55
                    +1
                    Yes, and not the monasteries can eat "not a palm tree." If you wish, you can find and constantly buy - sausage from meat (I was shocked when I cut it - no sausage, clean meat), milk from milk and much more, BUT it is more expensive. And there will be a demand for the pure and its own - there will be growth and supply. good
                    And then some squeal - give me a pure natural product and at the same time denying that "not clean" it becomes cheaper to add "but at the same low price". fool Although the climb on the tree and the pants do not peel.
                    1. zloybond
                      zloybond 17 February 2018 10: 56
                      0
                      It is believed that farming is a pure product. I will say as in spirit:
                      In order to grow a pig, you need, with normal natural growth, a year and a ton of grain (and no less other feeds), plus light, water, milk for fattening young animals, etc. In order to change the balance in the direction of profitability of fattening, to reduce consumption and increase profits, you need to spend one hundred rubles on vaccination with a growth stimulator, spend half a year on one and a half year-old wild boar, reducing the same amount of feed consumption. Whether you have been visited by a veterinarian with such vaccines at the farm, or you yourself have made them, no one will ever recognize you. We have now one form of housekeeping almost everywhere, because the market will indicate to you a price below which it is no longer profitable for you to sell meat. Well, estimate now in your mind - are you pure meat in a sausage or just bought meat? Or is it still with growth hormone ??? I will honestly tell you: I personally did not invest the money that I personally earned on various business trips into something super tricky, and did not take it abroad. I bought land in the Kursk province. I lease it to farmers, we keep an apiary, we personally keep a small farm of sheep for ourselves and just a couple of pigs for fattening personally for our family so as not to buy farm or combine, because the business process at the combine and the farmer is no different. Need profit, not loss. Do not tell anyone about clean meat. It is grown in limited quantities on your personal table. In addition, any meat seller will tell you in the market that it was a pig from his personal farm. But he won’t tell you that for a long time all the farmsteads traveled around the veterinary commissions under the threat of execution for signing each owner brought a ban on raising pigs, like the plague, the flu ... or the erysipelas ... People are shy, the authorities open the door with their feet, the peasant is usually taken immediately to the barn to show. Honestly, I don’t let anyone in, I surrounded the entire estate in the house and beyond the gates I don’t allow these commissions to look in and all mine act the same way. But on a country-wide scale, pig farming on a private basis has been banned for several years. Firstly, competition was immediately killed. Secondly profitable. Just think: take pork for sale from the plant at 100 rubles per kilogram and take it to the market at a market price for a profitability of 300% !!!! And most importantly, think it over in your mind: if a combine releases pork at such a price, does he grow it at a loss ???? Or is it still vaccination in growth ????? So you bought a very cunning sausage somewhere .... so to speak and ate a fish and drank an aquarium.
            5. zloybond
              zloybond 14 February 2018 17: 56
              +6
              yes .... here's another .... about the replicas about a lot of bukff ... dump ... stink ... Hurray ... Hug ...
              I just mean sensible comments on the matter. A short burp about the fact that someone has a cool "worth" .... Well, your esteemed erection is really an obelisk on the grave ....
              Talk like that on business.
              1. Monos
                Monos 14 February 2018 18: 06
                +7
                Quote: zloybond
                Talk like that on business.

                Buddy, but what did he say in the case? He told me how I went to the store for glazed curds? This is ahhrenitelno constructive! smile This story gave you a powerful impetus to industry. State award to you! However, what to take from the lumpen ...
                1. zloybond
                  zloybond 14 February 2018 18: 28
                  +11
                  You see, friend. I recently returned to Russia .. half a year as approximately. He spent two years among Muslims. Well, the Motherland sent, so you had to understand. So I wrote about it, because it hurt what I saw. We eat, drink, carry imports, and sing about happy import substitution. Well, it wasn’t about my affairs that I wrote there? But here's another ... when the first pilot of our Turks shot down, the Muslim called me the first night (there is no Russian) and called to find out how to contact my family and transfer money to them .... You can talk differently about Russia. But the man gave the numbers ... the statistics .... and I was just offended that in response to the numbers that were not refuted, they went spitting with hiccups ... And not because someone said under the election .... It’s just people have eyes, ears, knowledge, abilities, skills to check, read, refute or confirm .... And in response to specifics, our experts start pathetically farting. I think we need to competently appeal. At the expense of the lumpen, no offense. I don’t take off my epaulettes ... Just like that, it is easier to merge with the crowd on the collective farm.))))
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky 14 February 2018 19: 16
                    +6
                    Quote: zloybond
                    We eat, drink, carry imports, and sing about happy import substitution.

                    Good day, Cossack! Well, we will not be so categorical. The increase in imports in the 2017 year is also explained by the strengthening of the national currency. Comparison of the real exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the value of imports (in dollars) shows that there is a strong relationship between these indicators. The real effective rate of the national currency determines the dynamics of the value of imports. In January-August of 2017, the real ruble / dollar exchange rate increased by 19,9% compared to the same period of 2016, which is comparable to an increase in imports in the same period (+ 26,8%) Something like this. Yes, and another rather significant reason is the increase in the import of foreign goods that began after the imposition of Western sanctions (and then the “retaliatory” sanctions of Russia) and in connection with the devaluation of the ruble, which led to a significant increase in the cost of imported products in rubles.
                    1. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 14 February 2018 23: 33
                      +3
                      Tersky
                      The growth in imports in 2017 is also explained by the strengthening of the national currency.

                      I’ll say for such a "trifling" industry as machine tool construction. The increase in imports is explained by the fact that in the Russian Federation they CANNOT produce the necessary machine tools for the industry. That's all.
                      And all the other clever words about volatility, exchange rate, stabilizing dynamics and low inflation along with a strengthened ruble - you leave for meetings at school. Well, among pensioners. The former do not yet understand, and the latter can no longer understand most of the words.
                      And do not sing war songs. Launches into space showed who what and how much and where from where ...
                      1. Monos
                        Monos 15 February 2018 00: 36
                        +6
                        Quote: Sofa General
                        The increase in imports is explained by the fact that in the Russian Federation they CANNOT produce the necessary machine tools for the industry.

                        This problem is eternal. Peter also began to import machines. Or remember on whose machines industrialization was tacked. And, apparently, it will remain eternal. Looks like in our climate machines do not ripen. smile
                      2. Tersky
                        Tersky 15 February 2018 12: 40
                        +4
                        Quote: Sofa General
                        . The increase in imports is explained by the fact that in the Russian Federation they CANNOT produce the necessary machine tools for the industry. That's all.

                        belay Yes not really? And I, a retired student and do not know .... request Or maybe for a start we’ll determine where import substitution is specifically defined? Can we start with the fact that it is a priority in the defense industry and agriculture?
                        Quote: Sofa General
                        you leave for meetings at school. Well, among pensioners.

                        But this is you in vain, I can not stand rudeness.
                  2. sogdy
                    sogdy 14 February 2018 19: 39
                    0
                    Quote: zloybond
                    You can talk differently about Russia. But the man gave the numbers ... statistics .... and I was just hurt that in response to the numbers that are not refuted

                    So sit down and check.
                    Over the "statistics" of the Zhechi, the Sacred people are already openly laughing, you take one at face value.
                    Vietnamese electronics are embarrassing - don’t take it. We built them, the Chinese taught them - now they are paying off, on the same "written off" loans. Not cash.
                    None, build with us, who's stopping? DNS is being built in Khabarovsk, so far it doesn’t work out, it’s 20 times more expensive than a plant in Vietnam.
                  3. Monos
                    Monos 14 February 2018 20: 31
                    +4
                    Quote: zloybond
                    At the expense of the lumpen, no offense.

                    I apologize for the lumpen, but I ask you to refrain from insulting other forum participants.
                  4. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 14 February 2018 23: 07
                    +2
                    Quote: zloybond
                    You see, friend. I recently returned to Russia .. half a year as approximately. He spent two years among Muslims.

                    I spent 15 years among Muslims. But I do not write comments in the scope of the novel "War and Peace." Brevity is the soul of wit. Everything that you write on half a page can fit on one line.
                    1. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 14 February 2018 23: 35
                      +4
                      I show an example:
                      Pyramidon is a convinced traveler.
                      There’s nothing to even explain and talk about.
                      1. Monos
                        Monos 15 February 2018 00: 40
                        +6
                        Quote: Sofa General
                        Pyramidon is a convinced traveler. There’s nothing to even explain and talk about.

                        I am also a traveler. And 80-90% percent of visitors, too. Can you change the site? Otherwise, don’t talk to anyone ... smile
            6. sogdy
              sogdy 14 February 2018 19: 30
              +1
              Quote: zloybond
              Very rarely I meet real people working on the site. Production workers. Something really done and doing. It is strange to read plankton speeches that have no real idea of ​​what they are writing about.

              Boy, did you confuse the training manual or site? Cho flood?
              1. zloybond
                zloybond 14 February 2018 20: 55
                +2
                Raise zatsa uncle! Well, I’ve been 40 years old if not a boy.
            7. Don
              Don 14 February 2018 19: 50
              +2
              You all wrote correctly about our affairs. Don’t pay attention to the idiots, my advice to you. I make fun of them with sarcasm, but what can you do, my own all the same, albeit d..y. This is our eternal problem along with roads.
            8. Sailor
              Sailor 14 February 2018 21: 42
              +1
              Just BRAVO! And to my great regret, everything you wrote is true!
            9. Xmyp
              Xmyp 15 February 2018 08: 05
              +1
              Since 2015, the site has turned into a garbage dump. In 2011 it was interesting to read the comments of adequate people, now some amateurs scream about greatness. There are no more left.
              Manufacturers know what exactly is happening in the country, only nobody needs it.
            10. Mih1974
              Mih1974 15 February 2018 12: 46
              +2
              I bet on many points. Let's start with the grain - you "eat a lot, -What? - in the sense of snickering." What is growing in us is growing and the fact that now such a grain is “recognized” as fodder does not make it not Bread. fool Yes, hard varieties are tastier and richer in all sorts of different ways, but Russia began to buy them when they “wised up” and listened to everyone, and before that for hundreds of years they sowed wheat, ate bread and rejoiced. Personally, I generally really like rye bread.
              Corruption and resale is a scourge that must be fought and defeated, but it does not make any difference to import substitution.
              The same problem and solution with the "palm" - you need to comply with the Law, according to which, by the way, Milk is only really milk, and almost everything that is sold is a "milk product".
              About China - you didn’t even notice how you lowered “our lamp” and the yoke of the EU’s ukro-krugryugolovyh, writing that buying supposedly European we buy Chinese. But the point is not that "we are sold at exorbitant prices as China, Europe", but that the "European" really has long been Asia - China (in particular). And even many Russian brands are really “stamped” in China or Asia, and this is not only due to the price, but also because the main industrial brands were removed there (often by the West). power. And this "happiness" for China has a flip side - it is an environmental disaster. belay negative
              I'm not joking, I recommend looking for information about the "cleanliness" of electronic production, or just believe me that it is very terribly harmful and dangerous. That there is a lot, LOTS, LOTS of hazardous waste. And now "multiply" all this waste and emissions by the "happy" huge industrial power of China and get https://helionews.ru/43193.
              You can search in the internet how paid mongrel squeals in Russia when they open a new plant or the enterprise "Oh, we all die, we will be poisoned" or by those already working. So either - do everything in China (Asia) or - poison your nature.
              And here we don’t need here about “let them clean”, so when you come to the store you buy for example a plastic ruler (I chose it because it’s plastic) two, three times more expensive, but only because it was made in Russia and the difference was spent on expenses emissions cleaning? And the majority - looks at the Price, well, maybe then at the Country and only then at the composition. sad
              At the same time, most people buy overpaying insanely and are very happy. Take the same “under-computer that you can call”, if I’m not mistaken, its latest version cost about 90.000 rubles (I’m not strong and I don’t buy it). But you have no idea how many times you overpaid the cost of not only production, but even a plus with the development (although this is a penny with such quantities). Moreover, you will not even use a tenth of what you bought, and many will buy "crap version +1" in a year or two fool And let's transfer the same smartphone to Bread - in the market a good Flour costs where that is 80-90 rubles per 2 kg. That is, this “little plate on which they ring” is equal to about two tons of good flour, from which you can bake about one and a half times more (3 tons) Bread. good That's where - divorce, scam and horror horror. And by the way, go to the DoneUnas site, no, don’t send me much further, but really read there which factories were opened, created, built in Russia over the last period. If you filter out any garbage, you will see how gradually the new necessary industries (not screwdrivers) are created and even by the memorable electronics good
          2. 210ox
            210ox 14 February 2018 17: 00
            +3
            Well, what about traditionally .. Agricultural engineering. We always had OWN ... Rostselmash, Voronezh .. No, we buy Buller in Germany.


            Quote: cniza
            Half of Russian imports at cost "accounted for machinery and equipment for industry - $ 6,5 billion, followed by: chemical products ($ 2,6 billion), food ($ 1,8 billion), textiles and footwear ($ 1 billion)," concludes author.


            This suggests that solvency has increased for traditional goods that we have always purchased and that ...
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 14 February 2018 19: 42
              0
              Quote: 210ox
              We always had OWN..Rostselmash, Voronezh..No, we buy "Buller" in Germany.

              What is embarrassing? Amounts? Nicho that piece goods are usually compared in pieces, and not in waste paper?
            2. Lexus
              Lexus 14 February 2018 19: 56
              +2
              Well, about traditionally .. Agricultural engineering. We always had OWN

              90% busted. Moreover, for the most part, already in the 2000s.
            3. Amurets
              Amurets 15 February 2018 03: 54
              +4
              Quote: 210ox
              .No, we buy "Buller" in Germany.

              Well, if you say it, then say it as it is: the Versatail company producing the Buhler tractor is the "Canadian daughter" of Rostselmash. In our agricultural company, the first Buhler 275 tractors appeared in 2005. http://rsm-yaroslavl.ru/katalog/traktory-versatil
              e / buhler-versatile-nnt-435-535-ls /
              In Germany, Russia purchased and is purchasing Claas combine harvesters and fodder equipment.
            4. DEDPIHTO
              DEDPIHTO 15 February 2018 06: 41
              +2
              Quote: 210ox
              Well, about traditionally .. Agricultural engineering. But we always had OWN ... Rostselmash, Voronezh .. No, we buy Buller in Germany

              These are, “Bullers,” today work in our northern region in agriculture, collected from scrap metal. hi The peasants have no money for others.
              But all this is not true .. wink
      2. 210ox
        210ox 14 February 2018 16: 56
        +1
        By the way, in the same Poland (look at the data) there is an increase in industrial production. And not a couple of ours. So they are right, the government is worthless
        Quote: Rusland
        Those researchers, even if they analyze their rise in the economy, Ukrainians have already announced this.
        1. AID.S
          AID.S 14 February 2018 17: 47
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          By the way, in the same Poland (look at the data) there is an increase in industrial production. And not a couple of ours. So they are right, the government is worthless

          In Poland, we’ll see how they heal when they begin to pay debts to the European Union. Soon, soon. And the government we have is what we deserve.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 14 February 2018 17: 57
            +6
            Quote: AID.S
            In Poland, we’ll see how they heal when they begin to pay debts to the European Union. Soon, soon

            And how will we heal if oil crumbles tomorrow?
            Quote: AID.S
            And the government we have is what we deserve.

            Which Putin appointed for us is a question for those who voted for him, but everyone is tormented.
            1. DMB_95
              DMB_95 14 February 2018 18: 37
              +2
              And how will we heal if oil crumbles tomorrow?
              And how would we live if oil runs out tomorrow, but if the President were not Putin (of course), but the one YOU want to see as the President? And name it, please, or "if only not Putin"?
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 14 February 2018 18: 43
                +6
                Quote: DMB_95
                and the one YOU want to see as the President? And name it, please, or "if only not Putin"?

                The only eligible presidential candidate is Grudinin.
                For me, it is obvious that Putin and Co. are the grave diggers of Russia. both literally and figuratively.
                1. DMB_95
                  DMB_95 14 February 2018 18: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  The only acceptable candidate for president is Grudinin ..

                  Grudinin, then ... Save Russia. Well, if you think about it, for sure - OH. There’s nothing to add.
                2. lewerlin53rus
                  lewerlin53rus 15 February 2018 13: 16
                  0
                  Bourgeois-from the Communists ... Lenin in the Mausoleum, apparently, has dodged the whole. Only here you need to think. and if you analyze and turn on the brain ..
            2. AID.S
              AID.S 14 February 2018 19: 15
              +1
              Quote: Stroporez
              And how will we heal if oil crumbles tomorrow?

              Tomorrow will not end. And in 20 years it will not end. And we will live on what we earn. Some on the hawthorn, some on a bun with butter, some on a plane. And to the Poles, from the 20th year, subsidies will be cut, and decently. That will be the moment of truth. What to guess, wait.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 14 February 2018 19: 29
                +4
                Quote: AID.S
                And to the Poles, from the 20th year, subsidies will be cut, and decently. That will be the moment of truth. What to guess, wait.

                And what is this joy to us? Today, I can say that now in polyandia it’s cheaper to live in all respects and subject to a higher salary there. And we live in the richest country in the world, like rogues, fueled by false patriotism from litter-tv.
                Quote: AID.S
                Tomorrow will not end. And in 20 years it will not end. And we will live on what we earn.

                The rate of pumping out resources is already higher than under the USSR.
                Quote: AID.S
                Some on the hawthorn, some on a bun with butter, some on a plane.

                It should not be so.
                1. AID.S
                  AID.S 14 February 2018 21: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  And what is this joy to us?

                  No
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Today I can say that now in polyandia it’s cheaper to live in all respects and subject to a higher salary

                  laughing "And what is this joy to us?" laughing
                  And what is not Switzerland? It has always been like that !!!

                  Quote: Stroporez
                  The rate of pumping out resources is already higher than under the USSR.

                  Technology is being improved. Offshore mining, for example. Another thing is to whom and where the money goes from selling it. And not taxes and duties.
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  It shouldn't be like that

                  But there is, and it seems, will be.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 14 February 2018 21: 52
                    +2
                    Quote: AID.S
                    But there is, and it seems, will be.

                    But this is Comrade, it depends on us.
                    1. AID.S
                      AID.S 14 February 2018 22: 28
                      +1
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      But this is Comrade, it depends on us.

                      "The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism with weapon, material force must be overturned by material force, but the theory becomes material force as soon as it takes possession of the masses."
                      Only without parabellum. laughing
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 14 February 2018 22: 52
                        +3
                        Quote: AID.S
                        Only without parabellum.

                        So far without laughing it will be seen further wink
                2. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn 15 February 2018 02: 06
                  +2
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Today, I can say that now in polyandia it’s cheaper to live in all respects and subject to a higher salary there.

                  Where is the data ?? Verified ?? what
                  Benz 5,2 zl, is it cheaper ??
                  Gas, light, heat ???
                  Salaries with which you compare ??
          2. 210ox
            210ox 14 February 2018 18: 57
            +3
            Yes, you are right. This generation of ours could not protect the USSR, and many contributed to the collapse of the country. So they deserve it. It’s just a pity those who come after us.
            Quote: AID.S
            Quote: 210ox
            By the way, in the same Poland (look at the data) there is an increase in industrial production. And not a couple of ours. So they are right, the government is worthless

            In Poland, we’ll see how they heal when they begin to pay debts to the European Union. Soon, soon. And the government we have is what we deserve.
      3. sgazeev
        sgazeev 14 February 2018 17: 40
        +2
        Quote: Rusland
        Those researchers, even if they analyze their rise in the economy, Ukrainians have already announced this.

        Why are logs so exciting? Even if we buy it, it’s not in Poland.
      4. Lavrenti Pavlovich
        Lavrenti Pavlovich 14 February 2018 18: 15
        +2
        Quote: Rusland
        Those researchers, even if they analyze their rise in the economy, Ukrainians have already announced this.

        It is not sad, but things with import substitution are developing poorly. The current bourgeois-liberal government is not in a position to either do well and for the benefit of the people. The budget is replenished with an increase in fees from the population, new enterprises are being built very slowly. Stalin lifted the country, with the economy growing to 30%, without any external investments, the current government is a bunch of accountants, not creators and competent managers. By chatter, we came out on the second place in the world, after Ukraine.
      5. Baloo
        Baloo 14 February 2018 18: 39
        +2
        Quote: Rusland
        Those researchers, even if they analyze their rise in the economy, Ukrainians have already announced this.

        Domestic apples smell like apples and cheaper, in Kazan from 70 rubles, imported ones are more expensive, but apples do not smell. also pears. The Chinese are the cheapest, but without the taste and smell, like potatoes.
      6. 73bor
        73bor 15 February 2018 01: 05
        0
        It’s strange that Europe is still selling us something, but where are the sanctions? Here let the Poles with their bodies and block.
    2. Logall
      Logall 14 February 2018 15: 22
      +18
      Quote: bazzbazz
      so far only a word has been invented, import substitution

      Yeah, that's just "import" - the word import!
      I can’t understand why a country that has everything except bananas buys everything? It’s not happening in the country ... The approach is not the same ... "And the horse is not the same ..."
      1. assa67
        assa67 14 February 2018 15: 27
        +12
        and the dumplings from this pie only got a bunch .. here and sprinkle with saliva
        1. Logall
          Logall 14 February 2018 15: 35
          +5
          Quote: assa67
          saliva

          I would like poison, but Matsarevich was not milked ... drinks
          1. assa67
            assa67 14 February 2018 15: 41
            +9
            why just doesn’t swim with the Commonwealth, "and saliva, and poison, and just wash .. well, the stormwater works for us, washes away .... but let your hamsters their apples drinks
      2. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 14 February 2018 15: 30
        +8
        Who is this lisping invited to the examination committee? Winter without snotty slippery.
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 14 February 2018 15: 39
        +19
        Quote: Logall
        I can’t understand why a country that has everything except bananas buys everything? It’s not happening in the country ... The approach is not the same ... "And the horse is not the same ..."

        You don’t worry, now the Zaputinians will come running and enlighten you on the topic of the “done” and “forward” site, and the litter will add pungency by telling how they live shitty on the outskirts, that the mattress is about to fall apart, the dollar will burst, and the geyropa will die out. In general, around enemies and bastards, therefore, we must rally and support the guarantor and his friends of the oligarchs.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 14 February 2018 16: 00
          +12
          Quote: Stroporez
          that the mattress is about to fall apart, the dollar will burst, and the geyropa will die out.

          Yellowstone is about to explode! so have a little patience laughing
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 14 February 2018 16: 18
            +4
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            Yellowstone is about to explode! so have a little patience

            laughing And we will immediately begin a good and rich life! fellow
            With the geyropa, everything is clear too, it is dying, but with Japan and China, something needs to be done, and the Baltic states are still ..., bloodthirsty infection ....
            If not for Vladimir Vladimirovich and his friends, we would have already disappeared
        2. DMB_95
          DMB_95 14 February 2018 16: 30
          +8
          Quote: Stroporez
          ......... In general, there are enemies and bastards, therefore we must rally and support the guarantor and his friends of the oligarchs.

          Yes, I would support a more worthy candidacy for the presidency of Russia, only because if objectively and without humor - "who, if not Putin" ?? Call at least someone really interesting.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 17: 00
            +5
            Quote: DMB_95
            Quote: Stroporez
            ......... In general, there are enemies and bastards, therefore we must rally and support the guarantor and his friends of the oligarchs.

            Yes, I would support a more worthy candidacy for the presidency of Russia, only because if objectively and without humor - "who, if not Putin" ?? Call at least someone really interesting.

            recourse recourse right now agitation for Grudinin will go !!! belay belay wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
          2. AID.S
            AID.S 14 February 2018 18: 27
            +3
            Quote: DMB_95
            who if not Putin

            The choice is small - see the list of presidential candidates. And they are either clone extras or clowns. The candidate of the Communists is especially. And apparently, the most real contender is to indicate with his result that "Something is wrong with the Danish kingdom."
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 19: 22
              0
              Quote: AID.S
              Quote: DMB_95
              who if not Putin

              The choice is small - see the list of presidential candidates. And they are either clone extras or clowns. The candidate of the Communists is especially. And apparently, the most real contender is to indicate with his result that "Something is wrong with the Danish kingdom."

              recourse recourse and the results of the Euro-American elections, when their opposing candidates often win with a minimal margin, indicate constant chaos in the Danish kingdom ??? what what what laughing laughing laughing
              1. AID.S
                AID.S 14 February 2018 20: 47
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                and the results of the Euro-American elections, when their opposing candidates often win with a minimal margin, indicate constant chaos in the Danish kingdom ???

                Not about chaos, but about the priority among voters of candidates with country development programs. Trump had a program, the Democrats had only Russian intervention.
                Alas, victory is impossible for anyone except Putin, but as in the elections to the 95th Yeltsin, the people can show that he should think about domestic politics. The awl in the bag does not hide. Otherwise, there will be nothing to reinforce the external. As a friend of mine used to say in the 90s: “What should I think of the state if it does not care about me ..” No matter how much they quit the CPSU, it had five-year programs. And what to develop now, what to plan? Yes, and to whom? Is there a strategy? The feeling that no. There is a tactic; the Crimea program was developed quickly. The turbines got it. Import substitution from the same opera is a response. What next? Wait for another roasted rooster?
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 21: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: AID.S
                  Not about chaos, but about the priority among voters of candidates with country development programs.

                  what what hang this noodle to others !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                  1. AID.S
                    AID.S 14 February 2018 21: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                    hang this noodle to others !!!

                    So do not substitute ears! laughing
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 23: 19
                      0
                      Quote: AID.S
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      hang this noodle to others !!!

                      So do not substitute ears! laughing

                      what so I do not substitute !!! recourse belay wassat tongue tongue laughing laughing laughing
              2. Sofa General
                Sofa General 14 February 2018 23: 40
                +2
                Nikolai Grek
                Name at least one American president in the last 50 years, in which the US foreign policy has changed?
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 15 February 2018 01: 11
                  0
                  Quote: Sofa General
                  Name at least one American president in the last 50 years, in which the US foreign policy has changed?

                  then there is no need for fairy tales about democracy and multi-party system !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughingand other Euro-American blah blah blah !!! lol lol lolWell, for complete happiness, tell Aida above that he is in the world of dreams !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
                  1. Sofa General
                    Sofa General 15 February 2018 01: 52
                    0
                    And what are the tales here? Do you understand the essence of the issue?
                    I asked to name at least one US president at whom foreign policy has changed.
                    Which word or phrase made you difficult?
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 15 February 2018 03: 29
                      0
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      And what are the tales here? Do you understand the essence of the issue?
                      I asked to name at least one US president at whom foreign policy has changed.
                      Which word or phrase made you difficult?

                      okay ... your technique is your answer !!! wassat wassat wassat
                      where do the presidents over the past 50 years with whom you got into a conversation ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        3. Scoun
          Scoun 14 February 2018 16: 39
          +12
          Quote: Stroporez
          You do not worry, now Zaputinians will come running and enlighten you

          No damn it, they were waiting for you to come running and enlighten everyone.
          Putin and the Zaputinians are guilty of a new entrance for me, the teachers distributed scholarships to their children, - Putin is to blame, the track from snow to paving stones has been cleaned, Putin’s wipers ... there’s no way to go with the sled — Putin is to blame!
          Although it seems to me there may be insanity, or some other reasons.
          PS.
          As for me .. so he is not a girl and he won’t like gold, but I need to look at business.
          1. weksha50
            weksha50 14 February 2018 17: 45
            +6
            Quote: Scoun
            Putin and the Zaputinians are guilty of a new entrance for me, the teachers distributed scholarships to their children, - Putin is to blame, the track from snow to paving stones has been cleaned, Putin’s wipers ... there’s no way to go with the sled — Putin is to blame!


            Ahem ... As always ...
        4. Evpator33
          Evpator33 14 February 2018 22: 51
          0
          Quote: Stroporez
          Don’t worry, now Zaputinians will come running and enlighten you on the topic of the site “done” and “time ahead”

          I believe that the persons you named have already read the report of the Federal Customs Service of Russia on
          2017 results. Do not believe your native customs, it is impossible!

          everything is painted there and it is impossible to refute, unless the box is turned on
          1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 February 2018 04: 54
            0
            And why did you keep silent that the export of engineering products from Russia grew by 14.6% and amounted to $ 28 billion in dollar terms, well, for objectivity
      4. Petr1968
        Petr1968 14 February 2018 16: 46
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        I can’t understand why a country that has everything except bananas buys everything?

        For example, I prefer German and Japanese cars. But I don’t prefer ours ... because it is g ** complete. How do you like this answer?
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 14 February 2018 17: 47
          +1
          Quote: Petr1968
          Quote: Logall
          I can’t understand why a country that has everything except bananas buys everything?

          For example, I prefer German and Japanese cars. But I don’t prefer ours ... because it is g ** complete. How do you like this answer?

          German turkish hands.
          1. Petr1968
            Petr1968 15 February 2018 10: 58
            0
            Quote: sgazeev
            German turkish hands.

            even Martian, not ours.
      5. weksha50
        weksha50 14 February 2018 17: 41
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        I can’t understand why a country that has everything except bananas buys everything?


        Because the government is corrupt ... lol To blame, - consumer ... hi
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 14 February 2018 15: 28
      +18
      Are you related to production? Iport substitution really works, and how. In key competencies. In the military-industrial complex. It only does not work on forums and liberal media.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 14 February 2018 16: 01
        +20
        Kalin. the region, its own meat ... And before that there was a multoldia ... For the price, it is already the same with the pishek .. Buckwheat, the fields are sown .. Vegetables, their own on the shaft. Prices are normal (compared with Krasnodar), bread is more expensive ...
        Benz- 40 +/-
        But the scum, 5,2 zloty (1 zl ~ 15r) ...
        I forgot ... wink
        Gardens are young, last year they gave the first crop. This is about the Polish apples ... lol
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 14 February 2018 16: 05
          +6
          Judging by the supermarkets (where 90% of the country's population sells goods) - our chemistry products! Cheese is pure chemistry, I don’t even know what happens to those who eat it .., oil and chemistry, all bakery products, cookies, cakes, etc. - chemistry., Chickens - antibiotics and growth hormones .... sausages - who eats them (give a hero chemist!)?
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 14 February 2018 16: 32
            +9
            Who's stopping you from buying in the market? Do you trust farmers?
            For example, cheese ...
            We, in Koenig, are full of cheese. Yes, Polish can taste better ... But this does not mean that it is natural ... To be honest, it is not strong in cheeses wink My wife is an amateur ... At the moment, she has "number one", a local farmer, cottage cheese ...
            I'm more meat good
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 14 February 2018 16: 36
              +3
              I already wrote, I have a complete order with products and without any intermediaries! but when I go to the supermarket - in horror that the city is eating! To everyone - always read the labels, there you can gradually understand that the packaging contains poison! As with hawthorn - until at once, people didn’t die en masse - no one even scratched it .. see cancer statistics ...
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 17: 04
                +1
                Quote: Nasr
                I already wrote, I have a complete order with products and without any intermediaries! but when I go to the supermarket - in horror that the city is eating! To everyone - always read the labels, there you can gradually understand that the packaging contains poison! As with hawthorn - until at once, people didn’t die en masse - no one even scratched it .. see cancer statistics ...

                recourse recourse Apparently, your idea of ​​"overseas" products is too idealized !! what wassat wassat lol lol lol
              2. sogdy
                sogdy 14 February 2018 20: 39
                0
                Quote: Nasr
                I have a complete order with products and without any intermediaries! but when I go to the supermarket - in horror that the city is eating!

                You ask each one individually - everything is in order with the products. Ide notorious "90%"?
                Quote: Nasr
                To everyone - always read the labels, there you can gradually understand that the packaging contains poison!

                Damn, wherever I get such a label, but no matter how you read it - all natural flavors.
            2. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 14 February 2018 16: 44
              +7
              Quote: Nasr
              all bakery products, cookies, cakes, etc .. - chemistry.

              You do not drive much to the bakery ... stop
              Cal. OJSC "First Bakery" ... Soon 7 years will be like I work there ...
              Flour, not chemical ... I give a tooth wink
              But in general, look at the shelf life .. We have a cake, or 72 hours, or 120 .. From the date of issue, and with proper storage ..
            3. sgazeev
              sgazeev 14 February 2018 17: 51
              +1
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              Who's stopping you from buying in the market? Do you trust farmers?
              For example, cheese ...
              We, in Koenig, are full of cheese. Yes, Polish can taste better ... But this does not mean that it is natural ... To be honest, it is not strong in cheeses wink My wife is an amateur ... At the moment, she has "number one", a local farmer, cottage cheese ...
              I'm more meat good

              Lucky Luzhkov your sheep farmer works. drinks
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 14 February 2018 18: 53
                +1
                Buckwheat-vodom .. laughing
                At first she was ...
                In fact, the land has not yet been cultivated, unmeasured ...
                East Prussia, fed the Reich ... For meat prices: pork 150 r (shoulder-ham), beef from 240 (on the bone), lamb from 300 r.
                I don’t know how, "where", but in the Krasnodar Territory, more expensive ...
            4. Baloo
              Baloo 14 February 2018 20: 26
              +2
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              We, in Koenig, are full of cheese. Yes, Polish can taste better ... But this does not mean that it is natural ... To be honest, it is not strong in cheeses

              Everything is very simple: tight, many holes of different sizes, cut off a thin strip and set fire. There is chemistry — it will burn and smell of chemistry; there is no chemistry — it will melt and carbonize. Or even simpler, cut a thin slice, on bread and in the microwave. Natural will melt, but will not burn, again chemical after that will be like chewing gum.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 14 February 2018 20: 51
                +1
                Quote: Balu
                again, chemical after that will be like chewing gum.

                Well, why cheat. Rennet cheese is burning, quite natural for itself, only early ripening. That rubbish that can be added to cheese without losing its appearance does not burn and does not heat up in the microwave. Cheese with starch / flour crumbles and stinks disgustingly, such crafts have been around for 5-8 years.
                Vashcheta, "Food Hygiene" - a textbook for officers of the Russian army, first published in 1834. In the publications for the army and commerce there are all methods of counterfeiting and their definition. And in the civilian far from everything is removed.
                1. Baloo
                  Baloo 14 February 2018 21: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: sogdy
                  Vashcheta, "Food Hygiene" - a textbook for officers of the Russian army, first published in 1834.

                  Passed at a higher level 40 years ago, the receivers worked out, objectively tested. hi
          2. Scoun
            Scoun 14 February 2018 17: 28
            +4
            Quote: Nasr
            hens - antibiotics and growth hormones .... sausages - who eats them (give a hero chemist!)?

            Eat Norwegian Health wassat

            Toxicologist: Norwegian salmon is the most toxic food in the world
            econet.ru/articles/107610...losos......
            Kurt bluntly states: “Norwegian salmon is the most toxic food in the world.” Fishing in Norway brings in $ 4 billion a year and comes second after oil. To unravel the secrets of these farms, Kurd Odekalv uses a ship with spy elements. “The bottom under the farms is covered with 15-meter rainfall, it is teeming with bacteria - this is all the remains of feed and waste chemicals added to kill parasites
            https://econet.ru/articles/107610-toksikolog-norv
            ezhskiy-losos-samaya-toksichnaya-eda-vo-vsyom-mir
            e
      2. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 14 February 2018 16: 03
        +1
        Do not give out wishful thinking.
      3. Sofa General
        Sofa General 14 February 2018 23: 43
        +1
        Mountain shooter
        Are you related to production? Iport substitution really works, and how. In key competencies.

        Lying. From the first to the last word. Especially on machines - it works so much - words cannot be conveyed, because there are no such words.
    4. Chestnut
      Chestnut 14 February 2018 16: 35
      +5
      Has Putin himself initiated import substitution? Forgot how was it?
      Not his strategy, not his choice, he has no ambitions, sanctions have pecked, and import substitution has come as a response to sanctions, to scare the hedgehog with his bare ass.
      There, they crap with the ships, the engines were bought in Ukraine, now in China, aha, or look at the topics done, the Fords were bought for the police, when I remember they swore and swore not to buy imports to government agencies.
      Import substitution, Putin stop joking, his stomach hurts.
      As soon as the sanctions are lifted, everything that they managed to do for import substitution will fall within a month, into smithereens, into dust.
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 14 February 2018 16: 49
        +1
        Quote: Chestnut
        Has Putin himself initiated import substitution? Forgot how was it?

        Itself)) If another official is taken away from a house in Miami, then you definitely need to start bombing Voronezh in response)))
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 14 February 2018 17: 08
        +7
        Fords bought for the police, when I remember they swore and swore not to purchase imports to government agencies.

        Before showing your dullness, I advise you to see where those Fords were going. Enterprises, not affiliates, but their daughters. Taxes are paid HERE, workers are also local. And, oh God, the plant is in Russia. S.V. (Lavrov who) yes already tell Kashtan d ... lu your phrase.
        1. Chestnut
          Chestnut 14 February 2018 18: 10
          0
          Quote: Okolotochny
          Fords bought for the police, when I remember they swore and swore not to purchase imports to government agencies.

          Before showing your dullness, I advise you to see where those Fords were going. Enterprises, not affiliates, but their daughters. Taxes are paid HERE, workers are also local. And, oh God, the plant is in Russia. S.V. (Lavrov who) yes already tell Kashtan d ... lu your phrase.


          Oh, what novfig daughters !? Than rudeness to write, it is better to look at Wikipedia that there are subsidiaries of the enterprise.
          A daughter is an almost independent company with her own name.
          In which country does Ford maintain its development and patent centers?
          in Russia ? Oh well.
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 14 February 2018 18: 27
            +6
            Are you really that or are you pretending to be? For "especially gifted", for you - "Daughter" - a subsidiary. Keyword ENTERPRISE. Fershteyn? A separate legal entity that independently conducts financial and economic activities. That's right, an independent company. On the wiki, see for yourself where Ford’s daughters are in Russia. By the way, besides Ford there are still a lot of brands. And in which country have the F-35 been developed and produced? In Israel? Oh well. Lavrov said about you.
            1. Chestnut
              Chestnut 15 February 2018 02: 16
              0
              Russified branch, Ford Motor Company, regional branch of an American company in the Russian Federation.
              Boxes are being assembled with us, but the development of projects is foreign.
              It seems to you that the difference is not significant.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 15 February 2018 07: 52
                +4
                First you look at the experience of China, the program "Made in India". EVERYTHING started with this. If you have another way, you know how to construct and assemble a modern car without the participation of foreigners, so why are you moaning here? Go ahead and with the song. You do not know - there is nothing to criticize. Your screech makes your ears fade. The import substitution program is, first of all, the release of goods IN THE TERRITORY OF RUSSIA. Now clearly explained? fool
    5. kapitan92
      kapitan92 14 February 2018 22: 23
      +2
      Quote: bazzbazz
      ... "so far only a word has been invented, Import Substitution" ...) Yes, it seems to me personally that the pace is not the same. But how will the managers live without import?

      And here are your managers? The article has fairly relevant items and numbers.
      Mostly Russians import: “cars and devices (50%), chemical products (19,2%), as well as clothes and shoes (7,4%)”.

      Engineering, chemical products, these are new factories, technologies, qualified personnel, they will not grow from the Kremlin by order, add serious capital to this. investments and sanctions.
      We always had clothes and shoes shitty, since the time of the USSR, they drove leather, furs, excellent material and obtained finished goods. Alas, this is a fact.
      According to the newspaper, the largest growth was recorded in the cereal group - 41,1%. “Russia is one of the largest wheat exporters in the world, but for production where high quality grain is required, it uses imports”

      And this is true, only the numbers need to be corrected, not 41, but 23%. Russia exports its grain, but only "poor" countries, such as Egypt, Vietnam and African countries, take the "bread", but mainly it goes for fodder.
      Durum wheat in Russia is planted a little, climatic conditions once, and costly is a process we don’t like that.
      So, colleague, you need to work, invest money in your economy, and not export it, then there will be other figures for imports. hi
      1. Antares
        Antares 14 February 2018 23: 31
        0
        Quote: kapitan92
        The article has fairly relevant items and numbers

        Wow, the first commentary on the article, and not on the situation with the subsequent debate about political sympathies.
        Mostly Russians import: “cars and devices (50%), chemical products (19,2%), as well as clothes and shoes (7,4%)”.
        Engineering, chemical products, these are new factories, technologies, qualified personnel, they will not grow from the Kremlin by order, add serious capital to this. investments and sanctions.
        Accessories, machine kits, everything is clear with this. It was not, and here we are importing. You can also consider the issue - if they began to purchase more sets and components, then internal demand for these positions has grown. This is, in principle, good, and not a failure of import substitution (as inside information propaganda), because domestic demand is growing / the market is growing / purchasing power is also
        Chemical products from the same opera.
        According to the newspaper, the largest growth was recorded in the cereal group - 41,1%. “Russia is one of the largest wheat exporters in the world, but for production where high quality grain is required, it uses imports”
        And this is true, only the numbers need to be corrected, not 41, but 23%. Russia exports its grain, but only "poor" countries, such as Egypt, Vietnam and African countries, take the "bread", but mainly it goes for fodder.
        Durum wheat is planted a little in Russia, climatic conditions once, and this is a costly process, we don’t like this.

        Here you need to add that hard varieties are necessary for the production of flour products! And if they are bought more, then the demand for this product inside the country is growing. For then it makes sense to buy them. They are not grown and the demand for them solely depends on the demand for vermicelli, pasta and other products. Is this good or bad? Again over to watch. Perhaps the population began to consume more of everything (and flour too) Or moved from the road to cheap pasta ... In general, the trip is different.
        By the way. The Russian Federation is the first in export - but Turkey (a mill of Russian and Ukrainian grain) for grinding. And the resale of flour. It seems that it does not produce anything (in this process, grain flour), but it creates an additional product.
  2. Irokez
    Irokez 14 February 2018 15: 20
    +6
    Chatting do not toss bags.
    We sell something, we buy something. So, we participate in the global market, therefore, goods go here and there.
    They are not looking for failure there.
    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 14 February 2018 15: 24
      +2
      They let them show their masters across the ocean. Maybe they won, but didn’t fail? Such a "failure" doesn’t threaten the Pshek, so they are furious.
    2. Kondratko
      Kondratko 14 February 2018 15: 26
      +3
      Their words, on the contrary, prove that the “Ecamen Failure” happened to them, in the sanctions imposed on Russia in the form of increasing commodity circulation ... So let them wash.
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 14 February 2018 16: 51
        +1
        Quote: KondratKo
        The "ecamen failure" happened to them, in the sanctions imposed on Russia in the form of increasing commodity circulation ..

        What???? Who put on whom? Poles on us? And whose turnover has increased? Russia and Poland .... Some kind of flight of consciousness))))
        1. Kondratko
          Kondratko 14 February 2018 17: 18
          +2
          And who are the Poles and who imposed on whom? Excuse me, sir, I’m here after the glass washing in the snow under the bench and I can’t overpower your knowledge of “laying” different things on top of each other, although you don’t seem to cope badly with this. Not everyone could be so smart, they could pass by without gloating, prokhessor.
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 17: 10
      0
      Quote: Irokez
      They are not looking for failure there.

      here it will be more appropriate "not those rogues are looking for failures from others" !!! request wink laughing laughing laughing
  3. Egorovich
    Egorovich 14 February 2018 15: 23
    +8
    The main thing is that Pshek apples are not present in imports. Let them eat these apples themselves and feed them their Ukrainians.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 14 February 2018 15: 58
      +4
      Quote: Egorovich
      The main thing is that Pshek apples are not present in imports.

      This is logs and nipples behind the seat. wink
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 February 2018 15: 24
    +13
    The value of the dollar fell, imported goods fell in price. Import has grown - quite naturally. The balance is positive. In favor of Russia. And with an increasing balance. Why import substitution should simply completely cut off imports is not clear.
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 14 February 2018 15: 25
    +8
    So it is not the merit of Europe or our failure. It’s just that we began to spend more on the same as before, and accordingly, with the growth in demand, supply also increased. Over time, everything will return to normal ...
  6. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 14 February 2018 15: 26
    +2
    Poles really want to blow Russia in a negative light. Well, you’re in the flag.
  7. Dzmicer
    Dzmicer 14 February 2018 15: 28
    +4
    It’s unfortunate, but true: during the period of the “import substitution”, the economy not only did not become more independent from goods of foreign origin, on the contrary, the dependence on imports only increased.
    I believe that the blame lies both with the Komprodore elite, who prefers to export every penny to offshore harbors, and the financial and banking system, which does not want to give "long money" for the development of the nation’s productive forces.
    1. Angina
      Angina 14 February 2018 16: 33
      +4
      Do not write nonsense. Sredmashevsky Research Institute, where he worked for 10 years, and is now alive. And the electronics in the product are no longer on the crest of Khokhlo-sprat-Minsk, but on Russian crystals.
  8. CARLSON
    CARLSON 14 February 2018 15: 30
    +2
    So are the proud l..yahs who “flooded” the world with high value-added goods, cars, computers, machine tools, wherever you look directly from everywhere, “Made in Poland” hurts your eyes.

    The main thing is not increased the import of Polish apples, here the toad strangled
  9. X Y Z
    X Y Z 14 February 2018 15: 36
    +2
    That's when Poland will lose its multi-billion EU subsidies next year, it will be interesting to analyze the affairs of the economy. Where are the boastful comments, comparisons of GDP and optimistic forecasts. When you are poked in your pocket every year, it’s easy to be successful, optimistic and critical of others.
  10. Ascetic
    Ascetic 14 February 2018 15: 37
    +14
    According to Ru stat
    Import to Russia for 2017 amounted to $ 221.2 billion, an increase of + 22.78% compared to the same period last year. Mostly imported:
    31% - Machinery, equipment and equipment: Supplies from China (35%), Germany (12%), Italy (6%).
    13% - Chemical industry products: Supplies from Germany (17%), France (10%), China (8%).
    11% - Transport: Shipments from Germany (15%), Japan (15%), South Korea (9%).
    7% - Metals and products from them: Supplies from “China” (22%), “Germany” (11%), “Kazakhstan” (10%).
    5% - Plastics, rubber and rubber: Supplies from Germany (16%), China (16%), Belarus (6%).
    5% - Vegetable products: Supplies from Ecuador (11%), China (9%), Turkey (8%).
    4% - Textiles: Supplies from China (35%), Bangladesh (8%), Belarus (6%).
    4% - Food, drinks, tobacco: Supplies from Germany (9%), Belarus (8%), Italy (7%).
    3% - Hidden section: Deliveries from the USA (48%), France (28%), Finland (5%).
    3% - Products of animal origin: Supplies from Belarus (35%), Brazil (21%), Chile (6%).

    Export from Russia for 2017 amounted to $ 356.9 billion, an increase compared to the same period last year by + 28.2%. Mainly exported:
    50% - Mineral products: Supplies to the Netherlands (17%), China (15%), Germany (7%).
    15% - Hidden section: Supplies to Germany (20%), Italy (9%), Turkey (8%).
    11% - Metals and products from them: Deliveries to "Turkey" (13%), "USA" (11%), "Netherlands" (10%).
    5% - Products of the chemical industry: Supplies to Ukraine (10%), Brazil (9%), Kazakhstan (7%).
    4% - Machinery, equipment and apparatus: Supplies to China (17%), Kazakhstan (13%), Belarus (12%).
    3% - Jewelry: Deliveries to “Belgium” (26%), “England” (15%), “Switzerland” (12%).
    3% - Vegetable products: Supplies to Egypt (16%), Turkey (12%), Iran (4%).
    2% - Wood and wood products: Supplies to China (41%), Finland (6%), Japan (6%).
    2% - Plastics, rubber and rubber: Supplies to Belarus (14%), Kazakhstan (13%), China (8%).
    1% - Transport: Deliveries to Kazakhstan (20%), Belarus (12%), Algeria (7%).
    The results of foreign trade of Russia
    In general, we have a positive trade balance, we sell more than we buy by 130 billion. It is believed that the excess of exports over imports shows that global demand for goods of this country is growing. If the whole world buys exported goods of this state and domestic buyers also prefer domestic goods to imported goods, then the economy of this country is in good condition. And vice versa, the deficit shows that the goods of this country are not competitive enough, and its residents must do something to protect their standard of living. So, it’s not worth the Poles to talk about import substitution.
    Judging by these data, our main trading partners are China and Germany. We draw conclusions ...
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 14 February 2018 15: 56
      +7
      For comparison, the US trade balance is negative, especially with China it reaches almost -50 percent.


      Trade balance, billion dollars.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 February 2018 16: 04
      0
      "50% - Mineral Products: Supplies to the Netherlands (17%), China (15%), Germany (7%).

      Raw materials - 50% of exports.

      4% - Machinery, equipment and equipment: Deliveries to “China” (17%), “Kazakhstan” (13%),

      Technological products - 4% of exports.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 14 February 2018 16: 50
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Raw materials - 50% of exports.

        Well? And where is import substitution?
        For example, look
        11% - Transport: Shipments from Germany (15%), Japan (15%), South Korea (9%).

        It’s clear that these are mainly cars, and now we look at the statistics of sales in Russia
        The best-selling cars in Russia in January 2018. Following the traditionally first-place Lada, which sold 21 thousand cars (+ 28,6%), KIA - 15 (+ 48,6%), Hyundai - 9 thousand (+ 30,7%) and Renault - 8 (+ 51,3%). Top Selling Models steel: Lada Vesta - 6,7 thousand cars (+ 63,8%), KIA - 6,6 thousand (+ 6,8%), and RioLada Granta - 5,3 thousand (+ 14,9%) .

        Statistics and ratings of car sales in Russia in 2018
        Vesta increased sales immediately more than half!
        This is import substitution. Yes and KIA are mainly of Russian assembly with a localization level of almost 50 percent.
        Serial production of the cross-hatchback began at the facilities of the St. Petersburg company Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Rus. The novelty is produced using full cycle technology with stamping, welding and body painting. The localization rate is 47%.

        The Russian assembly of the Kia Rio X-Line started
  11. Genry
    Genry 14 February 2018 15: 41
    +4
    From the article:
    According to the newspaper, the largest growth was recorded in the cereal group - 41,1%. “Russia is one of the largest wheat exporters in the world, but for production where high quality grain is required, it uses imports", - writes Trusevich.

    I do not understand this false statement. Because, exactly Russia is a supplier of durum wheat, high in gluten, which is used for high-quality confectionery (biscuits) and pasta (Italian pasta).
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 14 February 2018 15: 57
      +7
      Durum wheat production (grades I and II) in 2016 amounted to about 600 thousand tons of 73,3 million tons of the total collection, or less than 1%At the same time, the quality of soft wheat is also declining: in 2016, grain of class III accounted for 22,3% (in 2015 - 36%), class IV - 49,1% (44,1%), and class V - 28,6 19,9% (2017%). This year (11), the imbalance towards wheat of IV – V classes will only increase: the share of grain of III class will decrease to 12–XNUMX%.
      It should be said that for the needs of the baking industry, Soviet GOSTs allowed the use of wheat not lower than class III (22-24% gluten). Now, bread is baked everywhere from flour, ground from a mixture of grain of III – IV class, using special “improving” additives: this is cheaper. But the protein from this in bread, by itself, is not added. The same goes for flour, pasta and other cereal groceries. So if we take it “according to protein” (gluten), then our agriculture is still far from the level of the late 70s – early 80s.

      By the way, IV and V classes of wheat were introduced only by GOST of 1990, and before that all wheat with a gluten content below 22% was classified as fodder, that is, exclusively suitable for livestock feed. But for the market there is only profit, and if the price of the goods cannot be raised to the right degree, then you have to reduce the quality of the products.
      1. Genry
        Genry 14 February 2018 17: 02
        +2
        Quote: Nasr
        Durum wheat production (grades I and II) in 2016 amounted to about 600 thousand tons out of 73,3 million tons of the total harvest,

        Well, looking at the sources of your information-this is just a private opinion of individual liberals.
        There are no specific state statistics.
        Siberian, Altai, and now Crimean durum wheat, have always been highly valued in the world and used in Italian pasta production (about one sixth of their production).
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 14 February 2018 20: 17
          +3
          With nostalgia I recall the Soviet egg noodles and pasta navy with such a normal Uryupin stew ... these Italian spaghetti, ravioli and other garbage naf didn’t give me up!
          There was GOST and the sausage was with meat!
          Now all these TU, ISO and other garbage are left to the merchants, in the end we have something not very edible! I don’t take any bread in the city at all, in the village there is a bakery and they’re baking BREAD there ... the same townspeople, summer residents are buying up!
          In principle, everything normal, edible can be taken from farmers, and it pleases. Is it really for cheese, ice cream and jamon at the big store, which is again not for everybody. Me farm smoked meats, cheese, sour cream, milk more to my liking !!! It’s silly to talk about fruits and vegetables, for the season there is everything that the soul wants, there are no questions for pineapples, bananas and other exotic things, because by definition it cannot be good .... so figs with it!
          So hedgehogs can sleep peacefully and without them there is something to eat!
          If people could afford to eat norms and buy goods that they want then finally, everything would be used .... and there are serious complaints to the supreme power and many categories of citizens ... but for any reason there’s no reason to talk that everything is lost with us! We will survive and not have experienced this, but I want to be sure that our patience is used for the good of the country, and not for stuffing pockets of any trash.
          1. Jack
            Jack 15 February 2018 11: 08
            0
            The most working: Fobs: "Over the past year, the richest Russian entrepreneurs have increased their wealth by a total of one hundred billion dollars, bringing their total amount to 460 billion dollars"
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 15 February 2018 12: 16
              0
              C'mon, it's dirty foam in our cool broth.
              Not always she hangs on top, he will come comrade .... but at least the sailor Zheleznyakov !!!
  12. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 14 February 2018 16: 03
    +1
    I doubt that the numbers are so direct and overpriced. For 27 years, they have not adjusted the production of machine tools and other equipment, electronics. And the agro-industrial complex began to move quite recently. Not very fun colleagues. sad
  13. Imh
    Imh 14 February 2018 16: 06
    +1
    What is true is true. Decent food was never learned.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 14 February 2018 16: 52
      0
      You lie - do not lie. All my life in Russia they have made decent, tasty food, until the "businessmen" have taken up this. Good, tasty food costs money. But not everyone has enough money. Therefore, menagers and "slap" ersatz food.
      1. Imh
        Imh 14 February 2018 16: 55
        +2
        Well, surely good food costs money, but a Russian does not have it. This means that the Russian economy is not able to feed people good food.
    2. BAI
      BAI 14 February 2018 17: 30
      +2
      Well yes. Krasnodar strawberries have both taste and smell. And the Israeli has only packaging, rubber with rubber.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 February 2018 20: 25
        +1
        Cool! Will it teach us to eat? Good, is that the one that is smeared on a plate with a still life? Tfu, gourmets, aesthetes .... so you understand in sausage scraps?
        It’s a pity, it’s too late, but I wanted to dumplings or pies and we wanted to sneeze on foreign lamentations.
  14. Imh
    Imh 14 February 2018 16: 07
    0
    We’ll be silent about clothes and shoes; in these areas, Russian industry is ridiculous.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 14 February 2018 16: 58
      +1
      Again chatter. I wear Bona sneakers in the winter and in the summer. Shoes at an affordable price and excellent quality. Worn for several seasons. What is not in Russia is consumer electronics.
  15. thinker
    thinker 14 February 2018 16: 11
    +2
    It’s just neighbourhood. Annual figures are too lazy to look for.
    The Eurostat press release on EU foreign trade notes that import from Russia to the EU Between January and March 2017 increased by 47% compared with the same period last year - from € 26,7 billion to € 39,3 billion.
    Also, during this period, the volume of exports increased quite significantly from EU to Russia: 28% year on year - from € 15,5 billion to € 19,9 billion
  16. jovanni
    jovanni 14 February 2018 16: 25
    +2
    Of course, there are a lot of problems, but nevertheless we are not standing still. And the Polish again "flooded" according to the old tradition, imagines itself to be an "examiner" of Russia. So and before the next section to jump for long ...
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 14 February 2018 16: 35
      +1
      ..we don't stand it ... try to crawl ....
  17. teron
    teron 14 February 2018 16: 33
    +1
    I always thought that "import substitution" is only in the defense industry. Well i.e. set a goal to replace all imported components of domestic military equipment with those produced in Russia. It turns out no, the same thing in the national economy. I just don’t remember who set such a goal for Russian enterprises - to replace imported consumer goods with domestic counterparts. Of course, it is understandable that this is what our industry should do, as far as possible. But in such a way as to tightly "import substitute" ... I have not heard about this. I heard about counter-sanctions, but there is no “import substitution” in the national economy.
  18. Kent0001
    Kent0001 14 February 2018 16: 35
    +2
    All right. current blv-blah-ball. there is no import substitution as it should. And will not be. Instead of investing money in the development of something innovative, our friends “take money from the hill and buy tegeries. It turns out that Russia does not need anyone except ordinary mortals who pay for this entire banquet.
  19. Prutkov
    Prutkov 14 February 2018 16: 37
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Logall
    I can’t understand why a country that has everything except bananas buys everything? It’s not happening in the country ... The approach is not the same ... "And the horse is not the same ..."

    You don’t worry, now the Zaputinians will come running and enlighten you on the topic of the “done” and “forward” site, and the litter will add pungency by telling how they live shitty on the outskirts, that the mattress is about to fall apart, the dollar will burst, and the geyropa will die out. In general, around enemies and bastards, therefore, we must rally and support the guarantor and his friends of the oligarchs.

    No, invite Saakashvili. He is out of work right now.
  20. Prutkov
    Prutkov 14 February 2018 16: 42
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "50% - Mineral Products: Supplies to the Netherlands (17%), China (15%), Germany (7%).

    Raw materials - 50% of exports.

    4% - Machinery, equipment and equipment: Deliveries to “China” (17%), “Kazakhstan” (13%),

    Technological products - 4% of exports.

    But Israel does not import anything? Is everything yours?
    1. Imh
      Imh 14 February 2018 16: 45
      +1
      Did Israel proclaim a course on import substitution?
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 February 2018 16: 58
      +1
      No need to fight import by banning it.
      Import spurs local producers to raise
      the quality of their products to be bought. Competition good .
      And about export: about 50% of Israeli exports - products
      high technologies: devices, medical equipment, software, medicines.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 14 February 2018 20: 10
        +4
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And about export: about 50% of Israeli exports - products
        high technologies: devices, medical equipment, software, medicines.

        In the first place in Israel’s exports, Diamonds-28% / 16.3bn.doll./ Further, medicines and integrated circuits -6% honey., Devices-2,8%, telephones -2%, everything else is below the statistical error, so no no 50% in these areas
        link

        Exports of Israeli goods
  21. Bosch
    Bosch 14 February 2018 16: 45
    +1
    The Polish media, as always, are in trouble.
  22. Bomb
    Bomb 14 February 2018 16: 51
    +1
    Everything is correctly written in the article .... no crowing =)
  23. behemot
    behemot 14 February 2018 16: 55
    0
    Yvona a little wooden, on the very heels. It is necessary to analyze the balance, and not the figures for individual products. Alcohol purchase has grown - well, that’s it, kapets, Russia will not be able to make alcohol, import substitution has failed!
  24. Prutkov
    Prutkov 14 February 2018 17: 13
    +3
    Quote: IMH
    Did Israel proclaim a course on import substitution?

    Russia also did not promise to replace EVERYTHING. Consistently, as far as possible, without tear and the Gulag, import products are being replaced.
  25. Prutkov
    Prutkov 14 February 2018 17: 16
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    No need to fight import by banning it.
    Import spurs local producers to raise
    the quality of their products to be bought. Competition good .
    And about export: about 50% of Israeli exports - products
    high technologies: devices, medical equipment, software, medicines.

    A purely Jewish answer. They ask about import, but they answer about export ... Are all of the listed export products manufactured entirely from scratch in Israel?
  26. BAI
    BAI 14 February 2018 17: 27
    0
    import substitution policy fails domestic test

    It's right. Failed.
  27. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 14 February 2018 19: 40
    0
    The subtle souls of aesthetes in pr-ve Russia can not stand anything domestic.
  28. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 14 February 2018 20: 50
    +1
    Was she worried about the ban on the import of “Belarusian” apples?
  29. viktor.
    viktor. 15 February 2018 00: 00
    0
    I know for sure that sanctions on agricultural products against Russia need only be tightened.
  30. XXXIII
    XXXIII 15 February 2018 00: 22
    +1
    Poles, bypassing sanctions, are also likely to trade, it is necessary for Congress to write a note that these traders are Polish, trade with the Russian Federation better than Ser Washington .... They immediately find out where the Polish economy failed laughing .... Financial nonsense, all major trade transactions are covered in secrecy, the real turnover of trade is also not known, then who owns such information controls the financial world. So Poland can only know its goods turnover between the Russian Federation yes
  31. LeonidL
    LeonidL 15 February 2018 06: 57
    +1
    For the information of a silly little panel - import substitution does not have to be called a complete rejection of trade. The most important is gradually being replaced, and the secondary that can be bought can be bought. Import substitution is not an “iron curtain”, you are a silly woman.
  32. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 15 February 2018 08: 05
    0
    Polish media can no longer (criminally) write about Polish concentration camps.
    Because:
    “The historical policy of the Polish state should be an element of our position in the international arena. It must be offensive. ” - Andrzej Duda.
    Bill approved by the government of Poland. It provides for imprisonment of up to three years for the phrase “Polish concentration camp” or “Polish death camps”, in relation to the Nazi camps that functioned on the territory of occupied Poland during the Second World War. The author of the bill, the Polish Minister of Justice, explained the need for its adoption by the fact that such a law would more effectively protect the “historical truth” and the “good name of Poland”.
    Well done Poles, chop the truth of the uterus.
    And no one decree they built nation stateby squeezing representatives of non-Polish nationality.
    And for the ECHR, they organized several exemplary reservations, where the washed and combed non-Poles with tears in their eyes thank the Polish government for their hospitality.
    But the Poles in this regard are not pioneers, it is known who they are keeping equal with.

    document No. 314 “Letter from the Russian-Ukrainian delegation to the Polish delegation of PRUSC with a request to take measures on the application of prisoners of war of the Red Army against the former commandant of the camp in Strzalkovo” (September 03, 1921).

    “Lieutenant Malinovsky always walked around the camp, accompanied by several corporals, who had in their hands wire harnesses and who he did not like, ordered them to lie down in a ditch, and the corporals beat as much as was ordered. If the beaten moaned or asked for mercy, then. Malinovsky took out a revolver and shot ... If the sentries shot the prisoners of time. Malinowski gave them three cigarettes and 3 Polish marks as a reward ... It was repeatedly possible to observe how a group led by then. Malinowski climbed onto machine-gun towers and from there shot at defenseless people ... ”
  33. Jack
    Jack 15 February 2018 10: 39
    0
    Monos,
    "I am also a traveler. And 80-90% of visitors are also ..."
    - It is unlikely!
    From the point of view of mathematics, it is absolutely not possible that all the remaining Zaputinians concentrated on this site!
    But this is a typical site: https: //my-president.rf/
  34. egor-kz
    egor-kz 15 February 2018 11: 20
    0
    What time! Honored guest workers mother of Europe also open their mouths! Let your "Honduras" better understand!
  35. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 15 February 2018 16: 47
    0
    Regular trading, what's wrong with that? I don’t remember something that Russia claimed full authorship. A.V. Tarkii.

    "author"? Moderator, ay! What the hell is "author", what an idiotic autocorrect?
  36. Uncle Vanya Susanin
    Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 February 2018 18: 59
    0
    Manipulation she is such a manipulation