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Project "ZZ". Communism doomed the USSR to backlog. Capitalism in Russia also led to stagnation

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Foreign experts compare Putin with Brezhnev, and also hint that he looks like Andropov: after all, there are special services behind him. Several years ago, Putin said that the communist teachings doomed Russia to lag behind developed countries. However, communism in Russia is long gone, but what has changed in essence? Nothing. Western experts claim that today's Russia is lagging behind economically developed countries, but the president is doing nothing and has achieved only one thing: he has surpassed Comrade Brezhnev by the duration of his government. Moreover, other experts note, despite the fall of communism, the cold war continues, which does not give an autocratic Russia economic well-being, but, on the contrary, it takes away its strength.




Chris Miller in a reputable edition "Foreign Policy" held many parallels between Putin and Brezhnev and between the lagging behind in the development of the communist West of the USSR and the current capitalist Russia, which also lags behind the developed countries.

“Putin isn't a genius. He's Leonid Brezhnev, ”the author writes. “Putin is not a genius. He is Leonid Brezhnev. ”

As an argument, the author quotes the words of Putin himself.

Russian President Vladimir Putin in his address to the State Duma in 2012 said that the world knows “two absolutely famous historical experiment ": one - East Germany and West Germany, the second - North Korea and South Korea. Everyone can see the difference.

As a KGB officer in communist East Germany, the journalist writes further, Putin "knew what he was saying." As V. Putin later explained, communism turned out to be historically futile: "Communism and the power of the Soviets did not make Russia a prosperous country." The main legacy of communism, Putin added, "doomed our country to a constant lag behind economically developed countries." This "was a dead end."

However, Russia today "constantly lags behind" economically developed countries, Chris Miller sneers. In this connection, the President of Russia “does nothing”.

What are his achievements? Well, here is one of them: Putin recently overtook Leonid Brezhnev for the duration of his reign. And Putin's "economic record" (the so-called stability) has a direct connection with the Brezhnev stagnation. Therefore, Putin really “more and more resembles Brezhnev,” the journalist believes.

Project "ZZ". Communism doomed the USSR to backlog. Capitalism in Russia also led to stagnation


The last four years have proven: the Russian economy can still withstand the brutal upheavals, and even such as the sharp fall in oil prices in the 2014 year and Western sanctions imposed on Russian banks and energy companies. But four years have passed, and it became clear: a return to rapid economic growth in Russia is "unlikely."

Proof of. In 2017, the Russian economy grew by only 1,4%, which is much slower than the growth of the economy of the United States and the eurozone. It is expected that in 2018, due to sanctions and relatively low oil prices, with the growth of the economy in the Russian Federation, there will also be problems accompanied by a traditional lack of investment.

Russia is "much poorer than its Western opponents," reminds the analyst, and therefore "it must grow much faster than they." However, at the end of last year, Russia showed the slowest growth among the countries of Central and Eastern Europe. It lags far behind both Poland and Romania. There is nothing to think about comparing Russia with Asian countries.

Ah, no, do not rush, wait for the election, but then! Some Russians, who stubbornly believe that Putin is holding some "tough, but necessary" economic reforms, say something like this. But he will be elected - and he will hold them.

Such assumptions seem unlikely, the author writes.

Russian economists, politicians and businessmen are really putting forward "ambitious plans to revive the country's economy." There are two main schools of thought. The first relates to the former Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation, Alexei Kudrin, who has worked with Putin since their rapprochement in St. Petersburg in the 1990s. He puts forward "many proposals for the liberalization of the Russian economy and investment." Kudrin argues that the business climate in Russia, which is characterized by the fact that private firms have been "expropriated by the government and entrepreneurs associated with the bureaucracy", hinders the investments necessary for growth. And instead of spending money on the army and security services, Kudrin proposes to spend them on health and education. Being healthy and educated, Russian people could work longer and gain the skills they need to get jobs with higher salaries.

Alternative theory: the Russian government, on the contrary, should “invest more in itself”. For example, Russian politician Boris Titov called on the government to drastically lower interest rates so that firms could get cheaper loans. Also, the government should subsidize loans to corporations and directly invest in the industry. Titov's appeals for public investment are supported by many industrialists.

However, if such proposals are adopted, inflation is inevitable in Russia - the ruble will collapse. Kudrin's ideas on improving the business climate and investing in health care and education are "much more reasonable," the journalist concludes.

However, it makes no sense to talk about it. None of the proposals will be accepted because each of them contradicts the basic principle of Putinomics - the “aggregate of economic policies that have kept Putin in power for almost two decades.”

Putin’s economic “strategy”, which allows him to retain power, stands on three pillars.

First, Miller writes, Putin is ready to "maintain macroeconomic stability at any cost." It is important to low budget deficit, low debt and low inflation - even if due to growth.

Second, Putin’s social protection system is used to buy support from politically influential groups (primarily retirees), and not to invest in the future.

Third, Putin “tolerates private business” only in “non-strategic” industries, leaving the state control over those areas where business and politics intersect: for example, in the energy sector or the media.

At the same time, the Kremlin understands that maintaining the current policy will keep Russia in stability, but this stability will mean stagnation. The stagnation is caused by inadequate investment in human capital and in private business, as well as cost overruns for "wasteful and corrupt public companies."

Economic growth with such a “strategy” will be limited to less than two percent per year.

From the point of view of Putin, the journalist believes that economic stagnation is tolerable, because big changes in economic policy can arouse the anger of key support groups and weaken the Kremlin’s control over Russian policy.



Mr. Titov’s proposals that the government or the central bank directly invest in the industry will not be accepted by Putin: Titov’s plans to increase government spending on industry through new debts or by launching a printing press will undermine this “doomed stability”.

Kudrin’s proposals to increase spending on health and education are associated with a reduction in the budgets of the security services. Putin’s political coalition will object to this. Putin maintains strong support from the security services, the military-industrial complex and state-owned companies, which now control about two-thirds of the Russian economy. Therefore, the implementation of Kudrin's proposal would damage the very basis of Putin’s coalition. In addition, "even if Russia decides to curtail its wars in Syria and in Ukraine, a reduction in military procurement budgets can lead to layoffs and social unrest in cities depending on defense spending."

As for “reducing corruption and increasing efficiency,” such Kudrin methods “would have hit the most influential supporters of Putin.” Therefore, one should not “expect much” from Putin’s election program, Miller speaks maliciously.

What awaits the Russian people after the election?

Probably, the people will face painful economic changes, but not the ones that Titov and Kudrin are talking about. The changes, according to Mr. Miller, will be the following "tax trips to individuals and individual enterprises." Reforms that would contribute to economic growth should not be expected. Putin’s political supporters will defend their position, which “will make impossible any changes in the corrupt state-owned companies of Russia” or in the “security apparatus”.

Bottom line: the Russian economy will continue to lag behind other emerging markets, while Putin’s Russia will increasingly resemble the “famous historical experiments” that Putin himself described in the Duma in 2012 year.

All this testifies to the fact that an inefficient economy that claims to autarky is doomed to a chronic lag.



Another journalist, Odd Arne Westad (Odd Arne Westad), in a Swiss newspaper "Neue Zürcher Zeitung" notes that the cold war between communism and capitalism had not only negative aspects.

Plus, the author sees the following: today, few Europeans and residents of Southeast Asia declare their desire to live in a communist state, similar to those that once existed on their continent.

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The cold war, we add, continues to this day, despite the death of communism and Russia's transition to a market economy (more precisely, wild capitalism) since the beginning of 1992. This does not prevent the West from accusing Russia of what the USSR was accused of: suppressing freedoms and human rights, authoritarianism, extermination of dissent, political prisoners and even an arms race, which was once attributed to the “evil empire” despite the fact that the US military budget has raised to unprecedented heights Reagan, propagandizing star wars.

The cold war would, in principle, be stopped only in one case: if Russia were economically at the same level as the United States, or at least approached. It is unthinkable to talk about the Cold War, say, between the United States and China. Washington will always put pressure on someone who is economically weaker. And there will be nothing for the weak to object. Only one way out - to become strong. But how to develop, if omnipotent comrade brezhnev Mr Putin - for stability?
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 14 February 2018 08: 19
    +64
    They can say anything. Communism built a just society .. Which was later destroyed by traitors labeled and fucked. Yes, the economy wasn’t all right. But production was built, not destroyed, science went by leaps and bounds. And what will happen now? But nothing will happen. That's how we will stagnate. A change in the socio-political system is necessary, not a change in tax policy.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 February 2018 08: 23
      +50
      in the conditions of our oligarchic system, no breakthrough in the economy is possible ... if only to start nationalization ...
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 14 February 2018 08: 49
        +44
        That's for sure. I saw it all myself. The refinery plant that was located near my settlement, the new owner-tenant, built under the USSR, exploited until all the production facilities got up, and when Gazprom offered to buy it to him, modernization and equipment replacement said "But do I need this? Your factory, I pay you a rent, I need products, not your repairs, and refused to rent. This is the main incentive for modern owners of Russian land. Deflate as much as possible and invest as little as possible .
        1. 210ox
          210ox 14 February 2018 10: 51
          +13
          We have a destroyed feed mill in our village, and it has a "master." These are "count ruins." We talked with him on the hunt. I was very outraged that I heard the OBS that these ruins could be taken from him .... After the election. We reassured the "poor fellow" as best we could .. Although I think that there is no need to worry him.
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          That's for sure. I saw it all myself. The refinery plant that was located near my settlement, the new owner-tenant, built under the USSR, exploited until all the production facilities got up, and when Gazprom offered to buy it to him, modernization and equipment replacement said "But do I need this? Your factory, I pay you a rent, I need products, not your repairs, and refused to rent. This is the main incentive for modern owners of Russian land. Deflate as much as possible and invest as little as possible .
          1. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 14 February 2018 11: 26
            +8
            The owner (our guarantor) is trying to do something. But as they say, not one has yet sat on two chairs. All the non-core assets of industry giants (refineries, shops, bases, etc.) he wanted to withdraw from the gray zone. Yes, who he will give it to him? He said to sell, the nouveau riche have agreed among themselves, they don’t take it, it’s more profitable to rent. That's how we live to this day.
            1. Petr1968
              Petr1968 14 February 2018 12: 09
              +12
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              The owner (our guarantor) is trying to do something.

              18 years trying ... and long years of his life))))) I will go for him .. He is like our football, stable .. but trying))))
              1. Mar.Tirah
                Mar.Tirah 14 February 2018 13: 02
                +15
                I agree, let him try. But I never voted for him. He is a protege of Yeltsin and his entourage, and that's enough for me. I voted for the Communist Party, but they were blown away. Remains for the "Communists of Russia". I’ll go after them ..
              2. Lexus
                Lexus 14 February 2018 13: 17
                +20
                18 years trying ...

                Stayed undeservedly.
                and long life to him)))))

                It’s time to rest.
                I will go for him ..

                We haven’t painted such people yet.
                He is like our football, stable ..

                You can’t argue, an exact comparison. Our football is a corpse in a golden sarcophagus, which stupidly lies on the field.
                but trying))))

                For some, unfortunately, experience does not come with age, but only impotence.
              3. Pax tecum
                Pax tecum 14 February 2018 13: 32
                +29
                Putin, by his own admission, is a convinced liberal. It has been proven quite specifically, since the beginning of the 1990's. What else do you expect, what "fairy tales" that you want to believe in?
                And, with LN Brezhnev, the comparison is generally not correct. Especially in different eras and socio-political systems.
                Under Brezhnev, the so-called liberoids "stagnation" was actually called stability.
                And, the specially planned economies of the command type that the very liberals, led by Himself, are trying to find fault with, some specially developed countries have taken as a model.
                It is the fruits of that Soviet socialist economy that we live now, if anyone forgot. Until now, they have not been able to privatize everything in the Kremlin. That was the economy! They pulled half the world on themselves.
                The fact that loans were introduced in the country, as there were standards and high oil prices, was not suitable for the Soviet system in soles.
                And how can they all be turned back from the program of the same Grudinin! The diagnosis is immediately made - they say, impossible, impossible. And, yourself, s ... and what did you do in 1991-1993 ?!
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                  1. chenia
                    chenia 14 February 2018 14: 46
                    +21
                    Quote: Petr1968
                    No tales. Only the result. The liberals raised the country ruined by the communists and made it the strongest in the world. Now we have both the market and democracy and the sovereignty and power of the country.


                    To this is added “glory to Ukraine” and there will be a complete picture of the great achievements of capitalism and liberalism.

                    No tales. Only result.
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                  3. Gardamir
                    Gardamir 14 February 2018 19: 42
                    +19
                    Liberals raised collapsed
                    Do you know how it really was? Someone ordered to prepare the demolition of the house. Demolition architect (Gorbachev) prepared documentation and conditions for demolition. The foreman (Yeltsin) demolished the house and dug a pit. The foreman (Putin) built a luxurious mansion where former residents huddle in the basement.
                    1. Lexus
                      Lexus 14 February 2018 22: 40
                      +4
                      Very accurate comparison. good Thank you! hi
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                2. Icarus
                  Icarus 14 February 2018 20: 04
                  +9
                  And, with LN Brezhnev, the comparison is generally not correct. Especially in different eras and socio-political systems.
                  It must be admitted that there is still a general: under Brezhnev L.И., and under Putin V.V. at first there was economic growth, and later there was a recession. Here are just different reasons. One of the reasons for the recession under Putin is the almost complete mutual merging of oligarchic capital (built-in and or sucked in) with power, in the absence of a change of supreme power. The lack of political competition gives rise to the lack of economic competition of large and medium-sized enterprises (instead of competition of goods and services, there is a competition of power, connected by interested parties).
                  Regarding the article. Partly disagree with her. Neither the communist nor the socialist model was built in the USSR. The power of the Soviets of People's Deputies was not there either, since they were de facto controlled by party officials. Although the very idea of ​​the power of the Soviets is not bad, provided that the working mechanisms for delimiting the powers of the executive branch and the councils (with the function of supervising the executive branch) are established. IMHO.
                  1. Victor N
                    Victor N 15 February 2018 09: 25
                    +3
                    Oh, Icarus! But why is there no political competition? You yourself never wanted to enter the political struggle outside the kitchen? I did not try, I realize my weakness. But he never stopped fighting the negatives of life, using the methods available to me. There were victories, there were. Everyone has opportunities, only it is necessary to search.
                    (On vacation in Kerch, the landlady said: my grandfather was dispossessed and exiled three times, and he started again from scratch, from scratch. He did not give up. He survived and raised his family).
                3. Icarus
                  Icarus 14 February 2018 20: 12
                  +4
                  Putin, by his own admission, is a convinced liberal.

                  Most likely, Putin is a convinced liberal with respect to the principles of economic structure and autocrat in relation to the political structure of the state. The Constitution of the Russian Federation allows the president to be an autocrat, if he himself does not want to share powers with anyone, he is not entitled to be obligated by any authority to do this.
                  1. Icarus
                    Icarus 14 February 2018 20: 15
                    +4
                    But for some reason he does not want to share. some greedy man.
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                1. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 14 February 2018 19: 23
                  +14
                  For mrARK. Well said, better not express yourself!
                2. Victor N
                  Victor N 15 February 2018 09: 17
                  0
                  In a difficult situation for the country, sarcasm is inappropriate. What have we personally done? Could not, incapable? Well, then we are the losers. To say what needs to be done is US weak. I am aware and silent in a rag, so as not to interfere with those who have constructive proposals. And he does what he can: for himself personally, for the family. After all, the country's wealth includes the wealth of its citizens.
                  1. Petr1968
                    Petr1968 15 February 2018 11: 09
                    +4
                    Quote: Victor N
                    In a difficult situation for the country, sarcasm is inappropriate

                    Who drove a great country into a difficult situation.
                    It’s like in aviation, although it seems that the terrorist enemies are to blame, but in fact 80% of the cases are to blame for the crew. Yes, that heroic one.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 14 February 2018 11: 00
          +37
          Foreign Policy drew many parallels between ... ... the Communist USSR, which was lagging behind in development from the West ...

          The USSR competed in volume of economy with the USA, unlike modern Russia, which now competes with Mexico (in absolute GDP). Do not beg the achievements of the socialist way of doing business. Socialist Russia, thanks to socialism, in the first in the world reached unprecedented heights and broke out in all respects in first place! Science, space, sports, armaments ... Not a single country has ever seen such a GDP growth at 20-30% per year! Then, the truth is that something went wrong. With the late Brezhnev (with the early development was!). And with Gorbachev oriented toward the West, in general, everything rolled downhill.
          But, one thing to remember. Higher than it was during the USSR, Russia never climbed! Only under the USSR did our country become a superpower. Therefore, friends, we go to the polls and vote for yourself you know who.
          1. You Vlad
            You Vlad 14 February 2018 11: 17
            +11
            Quote: Stas157
            Therefore, friends, we go to the polls and vote for yourself you know who.

            For whom, for Brezhnev or something? This same one you are talking about the USSR doesn’t have anything to do with it! It’s more like fists (hamsters)! Maybe it’s enough to engage in speculation in the USSR? You communists pulled the USSR like hamsters in barns, and now we sing how good life was! I will not forget, I will not forgive! If Comrade Stalin is alive, he is Zyuganov and this wink sent to places not so distant to master as traitors to the people!
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 14 February 2018 11: 25
              +27
              Quote: You Vlad
              Maybe it’s enough to deal with the USSR’s speculation already? You communists dragged the USSR away like hamsters in barns, and now we sing how good it was to live! I won’t forget, I won’t forgive!

              Something familiar ... It smelled like the smell of the 90s! This dense and stale, which helped Yeltsin to finish off the remnants of socialism and make promises: - be patient for 500 days, then we will live like in France! Indeed, Putin and Co. with the oligarchs live better than in France, which cannot be said about the other 20-30 million, those below the poverty line.
              1. You Vlad
                You Vlad 14 February 2018 11: 51
                +6
                Quote: Stas157
                This dense and stale, which helped Yeltsin to finish off the remnants of socialism and make promises

                Yes, your party party nomenclature helped, they played everything as if by notes!
                Quote: Stas157
                - suffer 500 days, then we will live, as in France!

                Yeah, the program of Yavlinsky sidekick Boldyrev, yes, I think he adhered there as well as in the production sharing agreement! And where is this now patriot USA, but he’s a darling in the Communist Party wassat
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 14 February 2018 11: 58
                  +30
                  Quote: You Vlad
                  Yes, your party party nomenclature helped, they played everything as if by notes!

                  You are right, only that was your desk nomenclature. Communist Yeltsin and communist Putin did their dark deed - they finished off the remnants of socialism. One carried out predatory privatization, making the people impoverished overnight and the elite immeasurably rich. Another, being a faithful keeper of the oligarchs, announced that there would be no revision of that criminal privatization.
                  1. You Vlad
                    You Vlad 14 February 2018 12: 06
                    +6
                    Quote: Stas157
                    You are right, only that was your desk nomenclature. Communist Yeltsin and communist Putin did their dark deed - they finished off the remnants of socialism.

                    That's funny because laughing And your part nomenclature, what was doing at that time? laughingAnd Putin in general, what does this booth have to do with everything? When he came to power, they had already pulled everything apart, divided it and sold it to the west!
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 14 February 2018 12: 25
                      +20
                      Quote: You Vlad
                      That's funny, because laughing. And your part-nomenclature, what were you doing at that time? laughing And Putin in general what does this booth have to do with all this?

                      We stood at the helm of Putin, yes Yeltsin! Here is the answer to these gentlemen for everything that happened to our ship. None of the Yavlinsky and Boldyrevs have ever led the country, so there is no need to throw off responsibility for the inhibited development of the country.
                      1. You Vlad
                        You Vlad 14 February 2018 12: 52
                        +4
                        Quote: Stas157
                        We stood at the helm of Putin, yes Yeltsin! Here is the answer to these gentlemen for everything that happened to our ship.

                        I’m telling you again, in what way does the GDP relate to that situation in the country? When the GDP came to power, he first stopped the further collapse of Russia, and torn relations with the West (robbery) under a production sharing agreement! already got in full opera wink
                        That's how it was about wink
                    2. Gardamir
                      Gardamir 14 February 2018 19: 49
                      +5
                      When he came to power
                      And when did he come? "Since May 1990 - Advisor to the Chairman of the Leningrad City Council of People's Deputies Sobchak."
            2. Petr1968
              Petr1968 14 February 2018 12: 06
              +1
              Quote: You Vlad
              ! I will not forget, I will not forgive! If comrade Stalin was alive, he sent Zyuganov and this wink to places not so distant to master as traitors to the people!

              Good trolling, by their own methods))) Well done - plus sign)))
          2. Petr1968
            Petr1968 14 February 2018 12: 15
            +3
            Quote: Stas157
            Only under the USSR did our country become a superpower. Therefore, friends, we go to the polls and vote for yourself you know who.

            For Putin! The CPSU ... or as it is now called EP already exists, the eternal General Sec - too. Stagnation, please. All for the USSR for Putin !!!!
          3. andj61
            andj61 14 February 2018 14: 58
            +3
            Quote: Stas157
            The USSR competed in volume of economy with the USA, unlike modern Russia, which now competes with Mexico (in absolute GDP). Do not beg the achievements of the socialist way of doing business. Socialist Russia, thanks to socialism, in the first in the world reached unprecedented heights and broke out in all respects in first place! Science, space, sports, armaments ... Not a single country has ever seen such a GDP growth at 20-30% per year! Then, the truth is that something went wrong. With the late Brezhnev (with the early development was!). And with Gorbachev oriented toward the West, in general, everything rolled downhill.

            good Totally agree with you. True, the economy grew at 20-30% per year after both world wars, when they started from a very low position, but the normal and average economic growth of the USSR with was 4,6%, while in the USA 3,4% with 1913 to 1990 This is according to the CIA. According to Soviet statistics, our growth is greater - about 8% per year.
            Quote: Stas157
            But, one thing to remember. Higher than it was during the USSR, Russia never climbed! Only under the USSR did our country become a superpower. Therefore, friends, we go to the polls and vote for yourself you know who.

            But is he worth the death for the USSR?
            Or is he even a communist? I mean a real communist, not a social democrat like Zyuganov?
            It is not necessary to connect the achievements of the USSR with a character - albeit respected by many - but with whom these achievements are not connected, to which he has not the slightest relationship, and which he himself and the party that nominated him are not even going to repeat. hi
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 14 February 2018 18: 28
              +13
              Quote: andj61
              It is not necessary to connect the achievements of the USSR with a character - albeit respected by many - but with whom these achievements are not connected, to which he has not the slightest relationship, and which he himself and the party that nominated him are not even going to repeat.

              I have no other communists for you. © Grudinina was put forward by the Communist Party. The Communist Party vouches for it. If anyone even makes an approach to socialism, then only the Communist Party, but not Putin and his elite.
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 14 February 2018 18: 38
              +7
              Quote: andj61
              It is not necessary to connect the achievements of the USSR with a character - albeit respected by many - but with whom these achievements are not connected, to which he has not the slightest relationship, and which he himself and the party that nominated him are not even going to repeat.

              To a greater extent, your message relates to citizen Putin. good
          4. Svetlana
            Svetlana 14 February 2018 19: 32
            +4
            Quote: Stas157
            Foreign Policy drew many parallels between ... ... the Communist USSR, which was lagging behind in development from the West ...

            The USSR competed in volume of economy with the USA, unlike modern Russia, which now competes with Mexico (in absolute GDP). Do not beg the achievements of the socialist way of doing business. Socialist Russia, thanks to socialism, in the first in the world reached unprecedented heights and broke out in all respects in first place! Science, space, sports, armaments ... Not a single country has ever seen such a GDP growth at 20-30% per year! Then, the truth is that something went wrong. With the late Brezhnev (with the early development was!). And with Gorbachev oriented toward the West, in general, everything rolled downhill.
            But, one thing to remember. Higher than it was during the USSR, Russia never climbed! Only under the USSR did our country become a superpower. Therefore, friends, we go to the polls and vote for yourself you know who.

            Then - this is when Khrushchev exposed Stalin's "personality cult" and began, like an elephant in a china shop, to turn things around in the economy without education and, obviously playing along with the West. From that moment everything went wrong. The closure of grandiose projects, the reduction of the army, the introduction of leveling, the appointment of non-professional careerists to key posts, etc.
          5. Victor N
            Victor N 15 February 2018 09: 36
            +2
            The USSR has become a superpower, YES!
            And my mother said that in his youth it was a problem to sew a new blouse, they barely survived. Wretched life against the backdrop of industrial growth does not contribute to personal happiness, but where did it go?
            Yes Remember, until the 90s it was impossible to rough work pants - jeans - buy, only REACH! This is where the roots of modern demand are.
      2. sergo1914
        sergo1914 14 February 2018 10: 09
        +20
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        in the conditions of our oligarchic system, no breakthrough in the economy is possible ... if only to start nationalization ...


        The current tax system is killing any kind of production. What can be jerks? The state is not configured to develop its own production and agriculture. Only selling resources and buying with this money everything else. From clothes and shoes to potatoes. The cost of local production surpasses. We are not even able to process our oil into gasoline in Russia. We are transporting oil over a hill, other people’s uncles are processing it, we are transporting gas to Russia. That’s the price tag in an oil producing country.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 14 February 2018 13: 38
          +11
          What can be jerks?

          What we give out today as jerks is already agony.
          Only selling resources and buying with this money everything else.

          So it’s easier for people to control. If you want to eat, humble yourself and serve!
          The cost of local production surpasses.

          One (manufacturer) with a bowl - seven (officials of supervisory and controlling bodies) with a spoon.
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 14 February 2018 08: 34
      +9
      Quote: 210ox
      .Changing the socio-political system is necessary

      A mechanical return to socialism, the period of the USSR is impossible. An updated model is necessary, taking into account the time and development of society. And this is not just tight, but sheer stagnation. Unfortunately, there is no “left idea”.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 14 February 2018 11: 18
        +30
        Quote: Chertt
        Unfortunately, there is no “left idea”.

        Does Putin have an idea? Somebody knows? Can you tell something about our national idea? About our economy, and economic development, where are we developing? Putin has no ideas and still hasn’t! From here he has inconsistent Kudrin and Glazyev in his advisers. What porridge must be in my head to listen to them at the same time! But, Kudrina listens more.
        The left idea was and is, whole volumes of works have been written about communism. And also the absolutely brilliant left idea was embodied in the form of the USSR, which brought agrarian Russia from plow to space achievements, where we were the first. And it was the USSR that could withstand the terrible war against fascism, there are no other capstranges.
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 14 February 2018 11: 34
          +3
          Quote: Stas157
          Does Putin have an idea?

          Incorrect, take responsibility for yourself
          Quote: Stas157
          Hence, in his advisers inconsistent Kudrin and Glazyev

          It speaks of work on the country's development path.
          Quote: Stas157
          The left idea was and is, whole volumes of works have been written about communism
          Science must develop, which does not happen, so most of the books of Marxism-Leninism are just decor
          Quote: Stas157
          And it was the USSR that could withstand the terrible war against fascism, there are no other capstranges.

          The honor and glory of the USSR. But later, the Soviet Union could not find an effective path of development, and lost. Our task this hour, on the basis of previous victories and defeats, is to work out a new path for the development of Russia
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 14 February 2018 11: 54
            +13
            Quote: Chertt
            Our task this hour, on the basis of previous victories and defeats, is to work out a new path for the development of Russia

            Quote: Chertt
            Our task this hour, on the basis of previous victories and defeats, is to work out a new path for the development of Russia

            How much time (not personally) do you need for this? A quarter of a century is not enough?
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 14 February 2018 12: 19
              +3
              Quote: BecmepH
              How much time (not personally) do you need for this? A quarter of a century is not enough?

              At first, it was just necessary to save Russia from collapse, Then build at least some kind of vertical power. Then gain internal and external sovereignty (all this is still being completed), etc. Of course I would like all at once
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 14 February 2018 12: 53
                +15
                Quote: Chertt
                At first, it was just necessary to save Russia from collapse, Then build at least some kind of vertical power. Then gain internal and external sovereignty (all this is still being completed), etc. Of course I would like all at once

                You don’t even know how much time you need for your plans (do they have these plans?)
                Key phrase in your post
                to build at least some kind of vertical power.
                "at least some ..."
                As we build, we live.
              2. Gardamir
                Gardamir 14 February 2018 20: 04
                +10
                First, it was necessary
                Well, please, that's enough already. The Bolsheviks saved from collapse, and the whole country developed it after the civil. And after World War II flew into space, mastered the virgin lands. What has been done now? For the people?
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 06
            +22
            Quote: Chertt
            Our task this hour, on the basis of previous victories and defeats, is to work out a new path for the development of Russia

            The team of national-patriotic forces offers ways to save and develop the country, and Putin must leave before it is too late.
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 14 February 2018 12: 14
              +2
              Quote: Stroporez
              The team of national-patriotic forces offers ways to save and develop the country, and Putin needs to leave,

              We debated about this. And my opinion is the same, Fight, put forward a program, ideas, new leaders, They will follow you if they see real actions
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 30
                +14
                Quote: Chertt
                Fight, put forward a program, ideas, new leaders, They will follow you if they see real actions

                And do not you live in Russia or are you happy with everything?
                At the moment, the PDS NPSR nominated a candidate, provided a program and ways to implement this program, a government of national trust was formed.
                Many simply do not want to change anything because of fear that it will be worse, and only war, to which Putin leads the country, can be worse.
                1. Chertt
                  Chertt 14 February 2018 12: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Many simply don’t want to change anything because of fear that it will be worse,

                  You know, there is reason to think so. And on their own experience and the experience of neighbors (and this is not only the outskirts)
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  At the moment, the PDS NPSR nominated a candidate, provided a program

                  Watch, watch. Do not think that no one sees anything. That people are cautious is normal (see above)
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 57
                    +14
                    Quote: Chertt
                    Watch, watch. Do not think that no one sees anything. That people are careful it's ok

                    I understand, but now there’s nothing to be careful about. I do not see anything wrong with the state’s monopoly on alcohol, as well as the nationalization of all strategic sectors and the Central Bank.
          3. Stas157
            Stas157 14 February 2018 17: 18
            +19
            Quote: Chertt
            Quote: Stas157
            Does Putin have an idea?

            Incorrect, take responsibility for yourself

            It’s like I’m talking with a three-year-old!)) What do I have to do with it? I do not pretend to be president! I am not Putin, and I am not Grudinin. I am a voter who needs to see what kind of idea Putin has (its complete absence!), And what kind of idea Grudinin has (worked brilliantly on the example of the USSR in the past, and now in China).
            Quote: Chertt
            Quote: Stas157
            Hence, in his advisers inconsistent Kudrin and Glazyev

            It speaks of work on the country's development path.

            It only says that Mr. Putin does not have any clear program. So, let him give way to the one who has it.
            Quote: Chertt
            Science must develop, which does not happen, so most of the books of Marxism-Leninism are just decor

            The works written by Lenin, and this hour, are as much as possible. Thanks to these works, the first socialist country in the world took place, which put forward Russia immediately to the forefront. For 20 years, the country twice as a phoenix rose from the ashes, was rebuilt from and to, after the devastation of the Civil War and after the Second World War. And what has Putin done over this period? Millions of people below the poverty line, thanks to the brilliant policies of Putin and Co.
            Quote: Chertt
            But later, the Soviet Union could not find an effective path of development, and lost.

            This is precisely this viral thought that our Kremlin leaders want to impose on us in the West. You do not understand, I am writing for others. The USSR took place economically and proved its place under the sun, that a socialist country can do wonders in economic terms. Still would! Everyone is working. No one parasitizes, and does not row for themselves!
            But politically, a crisis has occurred. We all heard about the excesses that prevented the development of the USSR. Permanent Politburo, Kremlin elders. An authoritarian management style, this is the same mistake (Putin is already sitting out more than Brezhny)! Iron curtain. etc. All this relates to the political system, which is why the crisis took place. And then the betrayal of the corrupted elite. But, this hour the elite is even more corrupted! This hour is even worse.
            So, it was completely optional to break the USSR in order to correct those mistakes. The Communists and Grudinin understand this well.
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 14 February 2018 17: 29
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              Still would! Everyone is working. No one parasitizes, and does not row for themselves!

              I talked with the sectarians who memorized theses on the brochure. And they don’t have to explain anything, they have a harmonious picture of the worldview in their head.
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 14 February 2018 19: 05
                +5
                There is a huge PRINCIPLE difference between capitalism and socialism.

                This principle puts capitalism in a kneeling pose.

                Listen liberal, what am I telling you.

                Under capitalism, information exchange is not possible. Competition does not allow trust.

                Under socialism there is no competition; there is a free exchange of information. Science develops and skills are transferred. Socialism EXPLOITS an education system and science.

                Questions? Noob ...
                1. Chertt
                  Chertt 14 February 2018 19: 15
                  0
                  If I had to read this babble, I will give advice. Before you knock on the keys, you need to familiarize yourself with something more complicated than a comic book.
        2. You Vlad
          You Vlad 14 February 2018 11: 36
          +1
          Quote: Stas157
          Does Putin have an idea? Somebody knows? Can you tell something about our national idea?

          Love for the Motherland, that is, patriotism is a national idea spoken by the GDP, it unites, but does not disunite, and does not put some above others!
          Quote: Stas157
          About our economy, and economic development, where are we developing?

          "National economic course" or Putin's plan in the economy.
          “National economic course” is a concept of economic development of Russia, which is based on the principles of a sovereign economic system: “cheap” credit, the necessary level of money supply to boost investment and innovation activity, national rating agencies, audit and consulting companies.
          The purpose of the concept: the transition to a nationally-oriented economic model that provides the conditions for creating an institution of national private business.
          Method: changing the principles of economic structure.
          Expected results: a sovereign economic system will create conditions for national investment and lending, which will eliminate the vulnerability of the national economy to sanction pressure, avoid high dependence on the changing conditions of foreign markets, overcome the accumulated imbalances in economic development, gain social stability and provide the basis for the formation of a geopolitical advantage.
          1. vandarus
            vandarus 14 February 2018 13: 41
            +3
            The national idea is the goal, towards the achievement, which is sought by the majority and not under duress. Love for the motherland is one of the means to achieve the great goal of creating a fair society of equal opportunities.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 14 February 2018 17: 34
            +16
            Quote: You Vlad
            Love for the motherland, that is, patriotism is a national idea spoken by GDP, it unites

            When there is no national idea, only Love for the Homeland remains. True, everyone understands it differently. For example, Putin and his friends oligarchs own 80% of the national wealth of our Great Motherland. But the rest of the people love their homeland more disinterestedly and completely immaterially. And nothing else remains ...
            Quote: You Vlad
            "National economic course" or Putin's plan in the economy.

            This is similar to an essay by a student of a binary who reprinted it on the Internet.)) Do you understand what you wrote? Can you tell in your own words on your fingers, or is it difficult for you?
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 14 February 2018 17: 49
              0
              1) Nationalization of Russian business
              2) Decrease in the key interest rate of the Central Bank to zero.
              3) Their national rating agencies are audit and consulting companies to prevent manipulation.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 14 February 2018 18: 12
                +10
                Quote: You Vlad
                1) Nationalization of Russian business

                Explain why Putin is selling key oil and gas companies to Qatari, Europeans, Americans and Chinese? This is completely contrary to this thesis.
                Quote: You Vlad
                2) Decrease in the key interest rate of the Central Bank to zero.
                3) Their national rating agencies are audit and consulting companies to prevent manipulation.

                Is that all? So this is not even an economic course. These are small procedures and measures that are possible with any economic course. Vlad does not need to puff up and invent something that is not. I see you do not own the topic at all.
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 14 February 2018 18: 17
                  0
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Explain why Putin is selling key oil and gas companies to Qatari, Europeans, Americans and Chinese? This is completely contrary to this thesis.

                  Facts please!
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Is that all? So this is not even an economic course.

                  Everything else will come from this that I wrote.
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 14 February 2018 18: 45
                    +11
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    Facts please!

                    Are you banned in Google? Gazprom - about 30% are in American depositary receipts. Rosneft - 20% to the British, 20% - first to the Qatari and the Swiss this hour like the Chinese, 8% - are traded in depositary receipts. Lukoil - Alekperov himself said that 50% belong to foreigners. RussNeft - 25% to the Swiss. NOVATEK - 15% of the French. The new factory in Sabetta is half Chinese. Look on the Internet further yourself.
                    1. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 14 February 2018 18: 53
                      0
                      Quote: Stas157
                      Explain why Putin is selling key oil and gas companies to Qatari, Europeans, Americans and Chinese?

                      Selling stocks and selling a company are different things, as it were! Again populism on your part.
                      1. Stas157
                        Stas157 14 February 2018 19: 10
                        +11
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        Selling stocks and selling a company are different things, as it were! Again populism on your part.

                        And the sale of companies according to your structure? It is through the sale of shares that this business happens. No other way. I have a strong feeling that you are trolling, or am I just talking to an alien who has arrived on Earth.
                    2. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 14 February 2018 19: 13
                      0
                      Quote: Stas157
                      And the sale of companies according to your structure? It is through the sale of shares that this business happens.

                      Well, this is probably called a controlling stake? No?
                    3. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 14 February 2018 19: 28
                      0
                      And the sale of shares is likely to increase the company's capitalization and, accordingly, its capabilities? No?
                      1. Stas157
                        Stas157 15 February 2018 08: 28
                        +4
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        Well, this is probably called a controlling stake? No?

                        Quote: You Vlad
                        And the sale of shares is likely to increase the company's capitalization and, accordingly, its capabilities? No?

                        A controlling stake is when the owner has (bought) more than 50% of the shares. This allows you to influence the decisions of the board of directors. But, if you own even 1%, then you also are the owner, and receive the same dividends (respectively shares) from the company.
                        Quote: You Vlad
                        And the sale of shares is likely to increase the company's capitalization and, accordingly, its capabilities? No?

                        Capitalization is the market value of a company, that is, its shares traded on an exchange. For instance. It is in your own words. See this definition on the Internet.
                2. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 15 February 2018 08: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Stas157
                  A controlling stake is when the owner has (bought) more than 50% of the shares.

                  So who has a controlling stake?
              2. Icarus
                Icarus 14 February 2018 20: 46
                +7
                1) Nationalization of Russian business
                It is very curious where Putin said or wrote this. In my opinion, he swore that he would not allow a revision of the results of privatization of state property. And I must admit that keeps his word, but it's a pity.
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 14 February 2018 20: 56
                  0
                  The word nationalization refers to the entry of business into Russian jurisdiction.
                  1. Icarus
                    Icarus 14 February 2018 21: 26
                    +4
                    Quote: you Vlad
                    The word nationalization refers to the entry of business into Russian jurisdiction.
                    Then deoffshorization. Voluntary? laughing Was the line lined up?
          3. Freeman
            Freeman 14 February 2018 20: 22
            +4
            Vlad today, 11:36
            "National economic course" or Putin's plan in the economy.
            "National Economic Course" - the concept of economic development of Russia,
            ..............
            basis for the formation of a geopolitical advantage.

            Until I was "banned from Yandex," I asked him what the National Economic Course is.
            The search provided a link to the National Course website, where the program is posted, the preamble to which you published.
            That's just the text is signed not by Putin, but by a certain group of persons called
            "Expert group of the parliamentary club “Russian Sovereignty”."
            http://n-kurs.ru/articles/natsionalnyy-ekonomiche
            skiy-kurs- /
            There is no need to give out an essay on the topic “If I Were Putin,” for the real program of the president (presidential candidate), Vladimir Putin. hi
            Threat. Further clicking on the links located on the above site led to the site of the National Liberation Movement (NOD), which appears under the slogan

            These sites brought to the deputy of the State Duma from "United Russia" Mr. Fedorova Evgeny Alekseevich, which the, perhaps and hides behind the signature "Expert group of the parliamentary club “Russian Sovereignty”", to the concept of" National Economic Course ".
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 14 February 2018 20: 37
              0
              This is probably just a coincidence that Putin insisted on the implementation of these points by the government.
              1. Freeman
                Freeman 14 February 2018 21: 27
                +4
                Quote: you Vlad
                This is probably just a coincidence that Putin insisted on the implementation of these points by the government.

                And how many years did he insist and still intend to insist?
                Quotes from an article on "n-kurs.ru"
                In his Address to the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation of December 12, 2012, President of Russia V.V. Putin outlined the main directions of the necessary changes in the policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation: “We need“ cheap ”and“ long ”money for lending to the economy, a further reduction in inflation, and competitive bank rates. I ask the Government and the Central Bank to think about mechanisms for solving such problems..

                Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated May 7, 2012 No. 596 “On Long-Term State Economic Policy” set the task of creating and modernizing 25 million highly productive jobs by 2020.
                ... for the period from the beginning of 2012 to the beginning of 2016, the number of high-performance jobs increased by 2 million, that is, the set goal of 25 million for 8 years (2012-2020), over a four-year period it was achieved by 8%. Thus, at the current growth rate of high-performance jobs, it will take 50 years to reach the target level.
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 14 February 2018 21: 34
                  0
                  Quote: Freeman
                  And how many years did he insist and still intend to insist?

                  And as much as you need.
                  1. Freeman
                    Freeman 14 February 2018 21: 53
                    +5
                    Quote: you Vlad
                    Quote: Freeman
                    And how many years did he insist and still intend to insist?

                    And as much as you need.

                    A song to help you.
                    1. You Vlad
                      You Vlad 14 February 2018 21: 56
                      0
                      Thank you and you do not get sick hi
                      1. Freeman
                        Freeman 14 February 2018 22: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: you Vlad
                        Thank you and you do not get sick hi

                        Mutually. hi
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 14 February 2018 13: 07
        +13
        Quote: Chertt
        And this is not just tight, but sheer stagnation. Unfortunately, there is no “left idea”.

        I recommend that you take a few minutes and watch the video. There is also about the program and how the TV wet the candidate.
      3. demo
        demo 14 February 2018 23: 25
        +1
        Well why. There is. And not bad.
        Only today to voice them is to make a blank shot. False start.
        Putin won this election. And one must live with this reality.
        But the next ones are just around the corner.
        Here it is necessary to prepare for them.
        Just let a super patriot of the country come to power - this will not lead to instant shifts and results.
        For without support in the State Duma, nothing can be done.
        And officials sitting in the field in all key and not very ministries sabotage any initiative.
        Get Dodon Russian spill.

        It all starts with another.
        1. Icarus
          Icarus 15 February 2018 22: 45
          0
          demo. Just let a super patriot of the country come to power - this will not lead to instant shifts and results. For without support in the State Duma, nothing can be done.

          This problem is easily solved. If the EP in the Duma does not "change hands" under the new president Grudinin, then the president will immediately be dissolved and new elections will be called. And if it is reassembled, it will be dissolved a little later, when they will dismiss and put up forgers from election commissions. Do you think a lot of mandates will get EP in fair elections?
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2018 08: 52
      +2
      Mao Zedong was in power for 33 years and believed that a politician begins at 80. So, Putin has a chance to break his record of being the first person in the state. winked
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 14 February 2018 11: 10
        +11
        Quote: siberalt
        Mao Zedong was in power for 33 years and believed that a politician begins at 80. So, Putin has a chance to break his record of being the first person in the state. winked

        Rephrase Klitschko):
        "Not only everyone will be able to see this happy day, preparing for the earth!)
      2. Lexus
        Lexus 14 February 2018 13: 32
        +12
        Mao Zedong was in power for 33 years and believed that a politician begins at 80.

        Putin, compared to the Chinese Mao, I'm sorry, BZedong.
        So, Putin has a chance to break his record of being the first person in the state.

        Is it really for this that Lenin decided to take out of the mausoleum, so that later he could bring in "Pukin"? .. Or will they build a new one?
    4. Nitochkin
      Nitochkin 14 February 2018 09: 01
      +11
      And it was begun by the unfinished Trotskyist Khrushchev-kukuruzer.
    5. Berber
      Berber 14 February 2018 09: 41
      +1
      This society was not fair. The elite was different - partocratic. No need to idealize. People stayed the same.
    6. Petr1968
      Petr1968 14 February 2018 11: 47
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      They can say anything. Communism built a just society .. Which was later destroyed by traitors labeled and fucked.

      Send you a photo where people support these traitors, or will you find it yourself if you have problems with memory? And what did you do to fight the traitors ?? Denunciation at least one dashed ??
      And if for you Lada and sausage trains is the ultimate dream, then for me my current beha, the opportunity to relax in the whole world, clothes and equipment from the whole world is much better. Go with your communism in the forest.
      1. vladafer
        vladafer 14 February 2018 14: 08
        +10
        So you are pierced, "dear" ...
        Sold their homeland or are ready to sell for a bead - "the current beha, the opportunity to relax in the whole world, clothes and equipment from the whole world."
        Okay, we were inexperienced on this score in the 80-90 year, when we bought a "chewing gum and jeans." Someone joined the country’s Deriban, someone simply said nothing, saying that everything would settle down. It didn’t settle down, further only the collapse of the country, the collapse of Russia. And here no braces will help.
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 14 February 2018 19: 51
        +2
        Quote: Petr1968
        Quote: 210ox
        They can say anything. Communism built a just society .. Which was later destroyed by traitors labeled and fucked.

        Send you a photo where people support these traitors, or will you find it yourself if you have problems with memory? And what did you do to fight the traitors ?? Denunciation at least one dashed ??
        And if for you Lada and sausage trains is the ultimate dream, then for me my current beha, the opportunity to relax in the whole world, clothes and equipment from the whole world is much better. Go with your communism in the forest.

        I suspect that you have a "beh" at all, to put it mildly, "retro" or credit, it really hurts you to skip the intonations of the "manager" or the small hawker.
    7. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 14 February 2018 15: 25
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      A change in the socio-political system is necessary, not a change in tax policy.

      but what about the progressive taxation scale ???
    8. gladcu2
      gladcu2 14 February 2018 18: 02
      +5
      That is, no man can clearly explain why socialism has an overwhelming advantage over capitalism.

      EXPLANATIONS

      Capitalism exploits a person’s base feelings: deceit, envy, greed, fear, meanness. The tool is competition. Exchange of information is not possible because there is no trust.

      Socialism is based on a different level of relationship. Knowledge, understanding, contract, trust, planning. Socialism exploits the education system. There is a free exchange of information. The academy of sciences works.

      Now you understand?
    9. iouris
      iouris 16 February 2018 13: 16
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      They can say anything.

      They will say “anything”, just to change nothing. So again everything will end very badly.
      The author wrote nothing. He thinks so.
  2. Kasym
    Kasym 14 February 2018 08: 24
    +21
    Revolutions, coups and radical changes - these are the reasons for the lag. When progressive, educated people (frames) are removed from their homes and seek a better life beyond the hill, and doom their country to lag. Those communists created the best education system in the world and gave the Union as many talents (to take those aviation designers) as there weren’t in the whole world. hi
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 14 February 2018 09: 15
      +14
      Quote: Kasym
      Revolutions, coups and radical changes - these are the reasons for the lag.

      It is also necessary to add the bloody wars of the 20th century that our country experienced, it is surprising that after all the upheavals we still survived as a single sovereign state, avoiding complete decay and degradation.
      And Putin’s words must be understood in the context of the fact that the development of the West was a response to the challenge of the USSR.
      “Many of the achievements of the West of the XNUMXth century became the answer to the challenge from the USSR: I mean raising the standard of living, creating a powerful middle class, reforming the labor market and the social sphere, developing education, guaranteeing human rights, including the rights of minorities and women”
      ,
      It was the new social system and communist ideology that caused a serious reappraisal of the development models of countries and created rivalry and competition.
      But the straightforward ideologized policy of the USSR, the lack of pragmatism and led to the fact that the interests of their own country receded into the background while assistance to the "fraternal regimes" only increased. This was a strategic mistake. Where are these "allies" now?
      By the way, globalists in the USA follow this path, although Trump called for abandoning this policy. in fact, it is only intensifying. It is the attempts to impose democracy throughout the world that resemble the attempts of the USSR to impose a communist regime. I’m afraid that the inevitable collapse of the light of democracy will be so painful and deafening that it won’t seem to anyone until they are kept only by the dollar, the credibility of which is steadily declining throughout the world, so we need to be prepared for everything.
    2. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 14 February 2018 11: 17
      +16
      Quote: Kasym
      Revolutions, coups and radical changes - these are the reasons for the lag. When progressive, educated people (frames) are removed from their homes and seek a better life beyond the hill, and doom their country to lag. Those communists created the best education system in the world and gave the Union as many talents (to take those aviation designers) as there weren’t in the whole world. hi

      I totally agree.
      When engineers and designers are told: “Now we will live in a new way”, and your knowledge and experience will only be useful in transporting trunks with underpants from Turkey and China, the technological “breakthrough” can only be in one direction - in breaking through the “Bottom”, what the current government is doing successfully.
  3. Dzmicer
    Dzmicer 14 February 2018 08: 25
    +22
    What is capitalism? We have developed feudalism.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 14 February 2018 08: 37
      +5
      Quote: Dzmicer
      We have developed feudalism.

      I’m sorry, but in Russia, we’re kind of going to the “new society”. True, they have not yet formulated to which. But there are many disputes, and this is already good
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 14 February 2018 08: 54
        +21
        Quote: Chertt
        Developed feudalism

        Already closer to the slave!
        1. Dzmicer
          Dzmicer 14 February 2018 09: 26
          +4
          I do not agree: the Soviet state was a slave-owning state with collective farms and work for the wands, then it came to feudalism evolutionarily - Putin and his vassals essentially governed the country.
          The next stop (according to the teachings of Marx, which is "omnipotent because it is true" laughing ) national-bourgeois revolution. Restrained by the stifling taxes and requisitions imposed on the nascent bourgeoisie.
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 14 February 2018 12: 14
            +3
            Quote: Dzmicer
            Restrained by the stifling taxes and requisitions imposed on the nascent bourgeoisie.

            And I still think that these are wealthy people from the West (artists, athletes ...) people running to us?
            Looks like you were talking ...
            1. Dzmicer
              Dzmicer 14 February 2018 12: 28
              +6
              1) they do not live here, which means they do not pay indirect taxes (VAT, excise taxes);
              2) they do not work here, therefore, they also do not pay deductions to the FSS and PFR;
              3) this is really 3,5 people, while the story of one of them (Depardieu, who sold the donated apartment and went home, to France) can cause nothing but laughter
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 14 February 2018 12: 57
                +7
                Good. And why in the developed countries the rich pay more than the poor. Do we all have the same taxes?
                And you say
                asphyxiating taxes and levies that are imposed on the nascent bourgeoisie.
                1. Dzmicer
                  Dzmicer 14 February 2018 13: 06
                  +2
                  Because they have rich people, wealthy people, and very few super-rich and low-income people - largely thanks to the progressive taxation scale.
                  In Russia, however, there are super-rich people who are closely associated with state power, a thin layer of the rich, a little more wealthy, and the rest are just beggars. Under such conditions (75% of the economy belongs to the state and operates on the principle of privatization of profits by managers when nationalizing debts), there is no question of any middle class, and without a middle class - the heart of the bourgeoisie - there can be no national-bourgeois transformation / revolution.
                  1. BecmepH
                    BecmepH 14 February 2018 13: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: Dzmicer
                    there is no question of any middle class, and without the middle class - the heart of the bourgeoisie - there can be no national bourgeois transformation / revolution.

                    Quote: Dzmicer
                    there is no question of any middle class, and without the middle class - the heart of the bourgeoisie - there can be no national bourgeois transformation / revolution.

                    And you write it
                    Restrained by suffocating taxes and levies levied the nascent bourgeoisie.

                    They completely confused me ...
                2. Lexus
                  Lexus 14 February 2018 14: 48
                  +6
                  And why in the developed countries the rich pay more than the poor. Do we all have the same taxes?

                  Rather, this: tax-rich run to offshore, and the tax burden is distributed to those who have nowhere to run, i.e. on the poor.
          2. Ehanatone
            Ehanatone 14 February 2018 18: 12
            -1
            Dzmikser
            Well, where is that bourgeoisie who will sculpt the revolution
      2. Romulus
        Romulus 14 February 2018 09: 33
        +2
        Quote: Chertt
        And in Russia, it seems, we are going to the "new society".

        Under the USSR, too, it was "our steam train fly forward in the commune stop" .. "Our goal is communism!" that is, ideology was present, but with the distortions of the economy, everything burst like a bubble. Now we have the lack of ideology enshrined in a constitutionally but also again distorted economy .. tsoto bend?
      3. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 14 February 2018 11: 35
        +6
        Quote: Chertt
        And in Russia, it seems, we are going to the "new society". True, they have not yet formulated to which.

        Tyk under the USSR also went to a new society in the form of communism.
        Tired of walking or the "unknown" capitalist "manna from heaven" always looked more attractive?)
        Everyone has tasted the forbidden fruit. Why is the face so skewed? Caught a “rotten bull”?) But they warned, forbade, and took them by the handle: “child, don’t take it!”
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 14 February 2018 13: 01
          +3
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          But they warned, forbidden, they took by the handle: "child, don’t take it!"

          Do not bring the blame on the healthy. You ruined the USSR, and we slowly, what you have done, raking
          1. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 14 February 2018 13: 27
            +12
            Quote: Chertt
            You ruined the USSR

            Are you sure of that? I personally? laughing
            And why are you “raking” me here? The remnants of the Soviet past, which have not yet been "cut"?
            Apartment with a cottage probably privatized? Garages? A weak buy back at market prices, since socialism is not nice? Well, as a sign of hostility to everything Soviet?
            The industry has already been ruined by “raking”, the energy left according to the recommendations of the EU to tear and your happiness will be complete! laughing The hateful GOELRO will be destroyed along with Ilyich’s bulb! laughing Well, as in Eastern Europe. Ukrainians also succeeded in this - they are already switching to firewood.
            Energy really was just lucky with your "raking" according to Chubais - Tolik simply can’t bring anything to the end. And his plans for energy were also "raking"! laughing
            Rakeers damn it! See yourself do not rake "raking" lol
          2. vladafer
            vladafer 14 February 2018 14: 18
            +14
            For a long time raking something.
            At such a pace, more than one hundred years will pass and it is not known what the result will be.
            For a quarter century, Russia, like a ship "without a rudder and without sails," no one knows where it is sailing.
            For a similar time, the USSR was twice raised from the ruins after the Civil and Great Patriotic Wars. But what is there to explain, you yourself know this, only you’re afraid to admit to yourself - this is a template scrap.
  4. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2018 08: 34
    +10
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    in the conditions of our oligarchic system, no breakthrough in the economy is possible ... if only to start nationalization ...

    ----------------------------------
    Nationalization in a capitalist state will not give anything. It’s just that the private owner will be replaced by the state, the expenses and losses of this enterprise will fall on the budget, that is, on you and us. This is called privatization of income and nationalization of losses.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 February 2018 08: 36
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      Nationalization in a capitalist state will not give anything.

      who would argue ...
    2. Icarus
      Icarus 14 February 2018 21: 10
      +4
      Nationalization in a capitalist state will not give anything.
      First, the nationalization of the largest enterprises of the economy (natural monopolies), for a start, will stop the outflow of capital into offshore companies, and then, with a reasonable and accountable management of these sectors, you can cover losses and move on to growth. Natural monopolies do not participate in the competition within the capitalist state, because they have no one to compete with. Therefore, natural monopolies do not care about capitalism or socialism. For participation in foreign economic competition, state monopolies will have certain advantages.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 15 February 2018 02: 55
        0
        Icarus

        Moreover, repeal antitrust laws. Give development to monopolies. Monopolies are the best enterprises that have absorbed competitors in the struggle. According to Marx, such enterprises must raise prices. In reality, pricing planning begins. The increase does not occur.
        1. Nitochkin
          Nitochkin 15 February 2018 04: 21
          0
          Come on. For state monopolies yes, for private traders no. Private monopolists are still those hyenas.
  5. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2018 08: 39
    +11
    Quote: 210ox
    They can say anything. Communism has built a just society .. Which was later destroyed by traitors labeled and fucked. Yes, the economy was not all right.

    --------------------------------
    Our economy was normal, just a lot of things, as they say now, were locked (Lock-block). Using thin tools, and not the Gaidar sledgehammer, coupled with bureaucratic laziness, many things could be fixed. The USSR also had CMEA as a market. This is a very big deal.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 14 February 2018 08: 49
      +9
      Quote: Altona
      Our economy was normal.

      Throw something at me, but I will remind you of empty shelves, the total deficit for what is needed and the queue for two hours (and do not say that it was not). So there were serious problems in the economy. Another thing is that in order to eliminate these problems, it was not necessary to break the Great Country
      1. shuravi
        shuravi 14 February 2018 09: 09
        +23
        Quote: Chertt
        Quote: Altona
        Our economy was normal.

        Throw something at me, but I will remind you of empty shelves, the total deficit for what is needed and the queue for two hours (and do not say that it was not). So there were serious problems in the economy. Another thing is that in order to eliminate these problems, it was not necessary to break the Great Country


        You have mixed the causes and effects. Or simply too young and not aware that the so-called total deficit was designed to break a great country.
        And by the way, then he did not go anywhere. Just a shortage of goods replaced the shortage of money.
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 14 February 2018 09: 22
          +9
          the so-called total deficit was designed to break a great country
          You're right. And this has already been repeatedly discussed in the media where, “practically on the fingers”, smart and knowledgeable people proved this on concrete facts and figures of the “Gaidar overgrowth”.
        2. Chertt
          Chertt 14 February 2018 09: 28
          +2
          Quote: shuravi
          the so-called total deficit was designed to break a great country.

          It is possible to arrange such an action only for a short time, as the shortage of bread was arranged in Petrograd in 1917. But the deficit of a wide range of food and consumer goods, for many years, no one can artificially create if the country's economy is in a healthy state
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 14 February 2018 09: 43
        +8
        Quote: Chertt
        Throw something at me, but I will remind you of empty shelves, the total deficit for what is needed


        Quote: Chertt
        and queues for two hours (and do not say that it was not)

        There were indeed two hours and not a minute more. Just a working day ended at five, and stores closed at seven. That’s it, and they were breaking fast as soon as possible, hence the lines. laughing
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 14 February 2018 09: 53
          +5
          Quote: Boris55
          That’s it, and they were breaking fast as soon as possible, hence the lines

          I read your articles and I know your intelligence hi You simplify everything in vain. And the situation in our country is such that you won’t turn back history, but there is no general opinion where to go forward.
      3. BecmepH
        BecmepH 14 February 2018 12: 31
        +10
        Quote: Chertt
        queues for two hours

        I would have stood in line for half a day for a piece of that real sausage.
        Recently I recalled a case from the army service.
        It was in those very difficult times. In the park, they talked about modern fuel. Well there, the quality of how it smells is not real.
        Some time has passed after this chatter. For some reason I needed a bit of gasoline. Maybe wipe something. But there was no fuel in the army in those days ((Technique took root in the parks ... And then I remembered that a couple of years ago we drilled a well with a BGMkoy (a “drill” in the engineering troops). A crazy idea crept in: “What if there gas left? ". He went, put his hand in the tank and .. Oh, a miracle! Something splashed there. Well, I put a rag there, dipped, sniffed ...
        Boys, it smelled of REAL gasoline. One! Soviet!
        You won’t believe it, but we sniffed this rag in a crowd and remembered ... Soviet smells, Soviet tastes of products. In general, all that is the present, lost by us ...
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 14 February 2018 13: 02
          +2
          Quote: BecmepH
          Soviet smells, Soviet tastes of products. In general, all that is the present, lost by us ...

          I remember and understand hi
  6. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2018 08: 42
    +10
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    who would argue ..

    ------------------------------------------
    Indeed, the point in the development of industry is that it gives employment in the territories, gives meaning to education, gives funds to the budget, which can be used to develop the same territories. With socialism, we also lost social consumption funds. Children's sports sections and music schools are paid. And we are all waiting for something.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 February 2018 08: 48
      +13
      Quote: Altona
      And we are all waiting for something.

      stalemate situation ... and "Maidan" nafig are not needed, and the elections do not work ... here and "wait" ...
  7. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2018 08: 56
    +7
    Quote: Chertt
    Throw something at me, but I will remind you of empty shelves, the total deficit for what is needed and the queue for two hours (and do not say that it was not). So there were serious problems in the economy. Another thing is that in order to eliminate these problems, it was not necessary to break the Great Country

    ------------------------------------
    I remember too. And as a young man I had to deal with the sale. In my hands were checks and Finnish stamps, and of course stamps with dollars. In the dorm room there were boxes with food and alcohol, and blocks of various cigarettes. There are constantly several invitations to the GUM and TSUM in your pocket. In addition, I constantly went to Polyanka and Teply Stan. But, I wore things only from the CMEA countries, clothes and shoes in the sense. So you can not tell me about the "era of deficit". I can even say in it I participated in various roles and saw with my own eyes how it was organized.
  8. BAI
    BAI 14 February 2018 09: 09
    +5
    an inefficient economy claiming autocracy is doomed to a chronic lag.

    He is right. And we have a vicious circle - Russia is built on such a model of the economy, when an increase in demand does not lead to an increase in supply (as in the whole world), but to an increase in price; therefore, any financing of something does not lead to the development of production, but to an increase in prices and untwisting inflation.
    1. Dzmicer
      Dzmicer 14 February 2018 09: 32
      +8
      Are you familiar with the work of F. Liszt, "The National System of Political Economy"?
      From reading this work we can conclude that the Russian government is doing exactly the opposite for the development and augmentation of the productive forces of society and, as a consequence, the wealth and prosperity of citizens.
  9. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2018 09: 22
    +10
    Quote: shuravi
    You have mixed the causes and effects. Or simply too young and not aware that the so-called total deficit was designed to break a great country.
    And by the way, then he did not go anywhere. Just a shortage of goods replaced the shortage of money.

    ---------------------------
    I did not have time to finish one of my comments. The economy was generally normal, it produced goods. It just was excessively mobilization, with all the disadvantages of this. The distribution system was deliberately paralyzed. The media specifically created a dirty informational background. They began to exaggerate the theme of Stalin, to seek out some "shortcomings and troubles", and to call for repentance. Now it is clear that this was specially planned. Who should I repent of? In my family three from the war did not come. Before the current fascists? I can only 9 grams of lead to answer them, if they do not calm down in their psychosis.
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 14 February 2018 11: 14
      +12
      Quote: Altona
      Quote: shuravi
      You have mixed the causes and effects. Or simply too young and not aware that the so-called total deficit was designed to break a great country.
      And by the way, then he did not go anywhere. Just a shortage of goods replaced the shortage of money.

      ---------------------------
      I did not have time to finish one of my comments. The economy was generally normal, it produced goods. It just was excessively mobilization, with all the disadvantages of this. The distribution system was deliberately paralyzed. The media specifically created a dirty informational background. They began to exaggerate the theme of Stalin, to seek out some "shortcomings and troubles", and to call for repentance. Now it is clear that this was specially planned. Who should I repent of? In my family three from the war did not come. Before the current fascists? I can only 9 grams of lead to answer them, if they do not calm down in their psychosis.



      Exactly. Since 1986, the plan for the collapse of the USSR began to be implemented.
      And in particular, the specified deficit was created artificially. By the nature of employment, I happened to wander around the union. I saw many oddities.
      Remember, there were conversations that food was deliberately not allowed into Moscow, almost immediately sent to a landfill?
      Here is one example, 1988 year. I served in Mogoch just then. So, many fellow soldiers were surprised at letters and phone calls of relatives from Moscow, Kiev, Leningrad. Say, terrible problems with products.
      And there was nothing to be surprised at, on the contrary, abundance came. Free-selling pineapples, which were chewed, if not with hazel grouse, then by French chickens (they didn’t look at domestic chickens) and so on.
      They decided to look upstairs, it was just a pity to throw out, and these in their tiny towns will not affect the big picture.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 14 February 2018 12: 15
        0
        ... God created Sochi, Damn - Chita and Mogochu ..
  10. steelmaker
    steelmaker 14 February 2018 09: 23
    +12
    All the crooks depend on Putin! Putin will not kirdyk them. There is no alternative to Putin, because all his entourage has long been discredited. Therefore, they violate the constitution.
    1. Nulgorod
      Nulgorod 14 February 2018 18: 13
      0
      In what place is it broken?
  11. kaschey
    kaschey 14 February 2018 09: 48
    +2
    When there was development and progress, and when stagnation and sucks are clear to everyone,
    and without any advisers and "great historians" is visible.
  12. Square
    Square 14 February 2018 10: 04
    +2
    And now in Russia capitalism?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 14 February 2018 10: 59
      +3
      Quote: Square
      And now in Russia capitalism?

      Are you talking square? laughing


      In our country - capitalism, only this can not be said because on a subconscious level, the people have a “cure” against the capitalists, but we have not yet developed such immunity against the oligarchs ...

      A bit of theory:
      There is a phenomenon. An image of this phenomenon is being created. A word is assigned to this image. When pronouncing the word, the hearing person has an image, he understands the phenomenon. For example, with the word thunderstorm, we have the image of thunderclouds, lightning and rain. Attributing another word to the old phenomenon, we do not create the correct image and, accordingly, there is no adequate reaction.
      1. Square
        Square 14 February 2018 12: 25
        +9
        Boris, you are wrong laughing
        We have anything in Russia, but not capitalism. Capitalism is in Sweden.
        Probably oligarchic-mafia feudalism
        So rather wink
  13. Vladivostok1969
    Vladivostok1969 14 February 2018 10: 38
    +2
    Quote: steel maker
    All the crooks depend on Putin! Putin will not kirdyk them. There is no alternative to Putin, because his whole environment has long discredited himself. Therefore, they violate the constitution.

    I don’t understand anything at all. Putin there is no alternative to juld kirdyk. Help the commas laughing
  14. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2018 11: 25
    +2
    Quote: Chertt
    It is possible to arrange such an action only for a short time, as the shortage of bread was arranged in Petrograd in 1917. But the deficit of a wide range of food and consumer goods, for many years, no one can artificially create if the country's economy is in a healthy state

    --------------------------------------
    "Many years" when the USSR existed 70 years? Under Stalin there was a war, under Khrushchev, "the pursuit of America." To convince the people that nothing was more permanent than temporary difficulties of labor.
  15. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 14 February 2018 11: 41
    0
    Like this! Not enemies, but themselves rotten!
  16. Per se.
    Per se. 14 February 2018 12: 08
    +9
    Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an address to the State Duma in 2012, said that "two absolutely famous historical experiments" are known in the world: one is East Germany and West Germany, the second is North Korea and South Korea. The difference can see everyone.

    As a KGB officer in communist East Germany, the journalist writes further, Putin "knew what he was saying." As V. Putin later explained, communism turned out to be historically futile: “Communism and the power of the Soviets did not make Russia a prosperous country". The main legacy of communism, Putin added, "doomed our country to a constant lag behind economically developed countries." This "was a dead end."
    This is said by the KGB colonel who was in the CPSU ... Where would Tsarist Russia ever be, where would Russia be after the February Revolution, under the Provisional Government, under pro-Western mentoring? Probably, the West would have made of it an advanced, prosperous country ... The same China rose from the mud only thanks to the help of the Soviet Union in industrialization, in military support at the time of its formation. Comparing North Korea with South, as well as across Germany, is generally not correct, according to the Marshall Plan they raised West Germany to foreign gold, both captured by the Nazis and transferred to the Americans, and stolen (appropriated) by the United States from tsarist Russia, that is, by means of Russia. Moreover, they helped Germany so that it is still occupied by the States, and its government is under a heel, as in the situation with South Korea. Most importantly, we still live on the safety margin of the Soviet Union, we have not been crushed only thanks to the Soviet nuclear shield. In general, the communists for a quarter of a century built a mighty power, the current government, having obtained a huge potential, brought the people to poverty, becoming completely dependent on the West. The impasse began with the power of the oligarchs, and not even a dead end, but degradation. Turning-up traitors perverted socialism, betrayed the Soviet Union, but only the revival of renewed socialism, this time without careerist opportunists, can save Russia and the whole world from the deadlock of capitalism, the degradation and death of all civilization, under the world virus, which current capitalism has become, with transnational monopolies and ghouls from billionaire clans.
  17. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 14 February 2018 13: 03
    +1
    It is clear that the economy in Russia is stalling. But this is not the main thing, we will understand. The main thing is that there is a strong state that could protect ALL. The new Russian bourgeoisie, bureaucrats and other bosses are obliged to understand that they are not needed anywhere except for their Russia. That only a strong state will protect their lives, homes, capital. And for this it is necessary to reckon with the interests of all civil society, without which a strong state is impossible, no matter how hard it is for everyone to live in this country, by the way a pretty country .. Putin is building a strong state flag in his hands.
  18. Altona
    Altona 14 February 2018 13: 12
    +4
    Quote: Vlad Petrov
    It is clear that the economy in Russia is stalling. But this is not the main thing, we will understand. The main thing is that there is a strong state that could protect ALL.

    ---------------------------------
    An economy is when everything is in order, you invest, develop something. What is now in Russia can hardly be called an economy, because everything is exported in the country. First, raw materials and hydrocarbons, and then the money received for them. That is, you get killed, you earn some money, but for some reason you give it to your wife, Vasil Vasilich, for some unknown purpose, she will like it at all costs. But your wife Vasil Vasilich accepts money and gifts from you, but is categorically not going to love you, and even writes gossip about you.
    1. Vlad Petrov
      Vlad Petrov 14 February 2018 17: 31
      0
      Big money in a foreign country is an application for power. Foreign, aristocratic elites will not tolerate nouveau riche. Western elites will not share their power with anyone, therefore, they will find a way to take away the loot. Vasya Vasya together with his wives. The task of the state is to make Vasya work for himself and for us too.
  19. Forever so
    Forever so 14 February 2018 13: 37
    +4
    the West does not need Russia at all, especially Strong Russia. Therefore, Putin will hold Russia by the throat until she suffocates, covering all this with the beautiful words of the court pederasts from the economic bloc. And with regard to the "weakness of communism" This is because the American president said about the post-war USSR - If the USSR develops at the same pace, then by the 60s the USA will irrevocably leave behind (s).
  20. turbris
    turbris 14 February 2018 13: 40
    0
    Well, actually, these publications can be considered as interference in the election campaign of foreign countries with the help of observer Oleg Chuvakin, probably it is necessary to draw the attention of the CEC bodies to this figure, and to the site’s administration as well.
  21. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 14 February 2018 13: 53
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    . Communism built a just society .. Which was later destroyed by traitors labeled and fucking

    The "Red Project" began to liquidate Khrushchev, immediately after the death of Stalin.
  22. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 14 February 2018 13: 58
    +3
    There has never been real communism or real socialism in the USSR! From the very beginning to the very end of its existence, war communism reigned in the country, transformed into various forms, depending on the situation inside and outside the state. It was easier to manage this way, and there was no need to strain the brains with which the pseudo-communists always had big problems — from there and flaccid failures: either in the economy or in geopolitics.
    But real socialism begins with a competition between collective and private property (as indicated by I.V. Stalin at the end of his reign), which was covered even under Ilyich (NEP), apparently, they were afraid that they would not be squandered, and that we are now only partially observing in the Russian Federation, China, Vietnam, and then only because of the circumstances, and not by someone else's understanding! And then comrades communists and current gentlemen ??? (Zyuganov, Grudinin, and K ') brazenly cunning about the construction of socialism, replacing the competition with administrative command methods of control from military communism (who served in the army, he understands what I mean), and who does not understand, watch the series entitled "WADA, IOC, McLaren et al. "
    But the modern world has no alternative other than building a socially just society! Otherwise, the chaos of wars and the same administrative-command demonism from the striped Hegemon!
    But socialism is not an amateur drama club built on continuous improvisation. This is a science built on accurate calculation and market planning (and no market will regulate everything). Those who survived the 90s should have learned long ago, everything was done strictly according to plan. All improvisers have long rested under granite slabs.
    The GDP has long had a unique opportunity to arrange real competitions, but only with strict observance of the rules by both teams (and he is the guarantor for that), but with mandatory planning and strict calculation. And then the Russian Federation can explode as no one has ever! And do not need deprivatization and blood! And everyone will be very happy!
  23. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 14 February 2018 14: 05
    +2
    Western onalitags — they are such onalitags! laughing Yes, under socialism, or rather, thanks to the revolution, Russia has stepped so far forward that this heritage, including the intellectual one, is still being consumed! But liberal capitalism drove Russia into stagnation and even decline!
  24. Silinvv
    Silinvv 14 February 2018 14: 32
    +1
    I propose to make the author a list of contra! An explicitly ordered article and the customer’s ears crawl out of my tablet onto the table ... white-red striped ears!
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 14 February 2018 14: 38
      +3
      Quote: Silinvv
      and the customer’s ears come out of my tablet onto the table ... white and red striped ears!

      It all depends on the country of assembly of the tablet laughing It’s great that kakly tablets do not. wassat
  25. NordUral
    NordUral 14 February 2018 14: 47
    +2
    Moderators VO, what ..... you pour us these liberalistic slop in the ears!
  26. Pax tecum
    Pax tecum 14 February 2018 15: 26
    +9
    Quote: mrark
    Quote: Petr1968
    18 years trying ... and long years of his life)))))

    I agree. I, a citizen of Russia, also go to vote for V.V. Putin, since he is my future. And for what reasons:

    1. I completely agree with his program for the destruction of the people of Russia. I am for the huge difference in income between rich and poor.

    2. I am ready to give the last money to thieves to the oligarchs, since I do not want to change anything. Let them eat at my expense.

    3. I am for Putin's food program. The more expensive and poor quality the products are, the better.

    4. I am for paid medicine and education, for drugs and a paid examination at frantic prices.

    5. If my children get sick, I'd rather ask the people for money than the oligarchs or Putin will give me them.

    6. I am for any new tax on everything. I am for raising prices for everything, including food, utilities and fuel.

    7. I am for the fact that natural resources would not belong to the people, but to a handful of oligarchs. And everything was exported abroad.

    8. I am for our cities to be filled with millions of migrants, and the Russian people would suffer from unemployment. I am for the settlement of the Far East by the Chinese.

    9. I am for raising the retirement age and miserable indexation of pensions in 300 rubles. I have a lot of this.

    10. I am ready to take new loans every day, even if I can not give them back. And may my children go around the world. The main thing - let Putin remain president.


    11. I am for the collapse of industry and agriculture. Yes, it burns with a blue flame. We will buy everything we need abroad.

    12. I am for eternal slavery and humiliation of mine and my grandchildren before the oligarchs.

    13. I want my children to relax in the dusty alleys in the summer, while vodka oligarchs spend their summers abroad, spending 5000 dollars a night.

    14. I am for the destruction of small businesses with huge taxes already at the initial stage of work.

    Our candidate, Putin, has a great program.
    It is my choice.

    Clearly, concisely and to the point. Bravo!
    Let me quote you? This kind of “subtle humor for thick circumstances” is a sign of talent.
    You know, this is a really intelligible form of expression.
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 14 February 2018 17: 18
      +7
      During the Brezhnev stagnation, only the lazy did not build housing for themselves. If they had not puffed up to build communism throughout the world. and built only in their own country. then in vain, someone would be able to ruin the country. People still surrender Soviet scrap metal. and it does not end in any way. But "tefal" thinks of us. Recently bought a frying pan - made in Vietnam these are what. also defeated us?
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 15 February 2018 22: 21
        0
        Your truth! It is a pity that the country got unworthy of its rulers.
  27. the same doctor
    the same doctor 14 February 2018 17: 30
    0
    “Communism has doomed the USSR to lag. Capitalism in Russia has also led to stagnation ...” The author is wrong in his analysis.
    .
    Communism doomed Russia ... In principle, yes. But the West also had a hand. Agents and accomplices of the West purposefully killed our country in 1917 and in 1991. As it turned out, under communism, not only people work worse, but the upper classes are not capable of self-renewal and change of course. As a result, the upper echelons did not see new threats from corrupt Western degenerates in their ranks. Communism is only to blame for the fact that it was unable to defend itself. There were plenty of resources for survival. And in recent years, before 1985, a clear rise was planned. And after the death of Ustinov, one could also expect a decrease in defense spending, which ultimately killed our country.
    .
    As for capitalism, there is no capitalism in Russia yet. During the implicit civil war, called the dashing nineties, all independent bourgeoisie were shot or expelled, and the feudal bureaucratic system subjugated the country. Since this system does not want to change from above, we are still waiting for the bourgeois-democratic revolution from below. with terror and his Vendée. However. there is hope for a new president.
    1. Nulgorod
      Nulgorod 14 February 2018 18: 18
      0
      The new president will not change anything. It is impossible to change anything in one time. The elections themselves: this is just an illusion of a change of power, key players remain in place.
      1. kpmx
        kpmx 14 February 2018 21: 54
        0
        The old fool ....
    2. kpmx
      kpmx 14 February 2018 21: 53
      0
      While on the "old" -))) ...
  28. macgyver
    macgyver 14 February 2018 18: 10
    +1
    This is what we lagged behind under the communists? They did not build a society of superconsumption ... well, the point here is a more advanced scientific approach, and not a lag.
  29. wax
    wax 14 February 2018 18: 59
    +4
    There was no communism in the USSR, it was built by passing through the phase of socialism. So already the economy and politics of the USSR in the first phase of communism showed its complete superiority over capitalism, which is confirmed by three very informative facts: a victory in the war with Germano-Europe, ahead of the United States in manned space flight and the achievement of military parity with the United States. If we take into account that everything took about half a century, then in general it will be considered a myth in a few decades. 32 years have passed since the erzatskommunistov came to the leadership of the USSR and then the liberal anti-communist Gorbi (together with the EBN), and where we slipped into capitalism, which destroyed everything and everything.
  30. lis-ik
    lis-ik 14 February 2018 19: 15
    +1
    Excellent article and excellent translation, everything is clearly laid out on shelves and unfortunately everything is close to the truth.
  31. gladcu2
    gladcu2 14 February 2018 21: 33
    0
    What national idea do you need?

    What will you do with her?

    To break the deadlock, you first need to understand the difference between the two economic systems.

    Grudinn's differentiated tax will NOT change the system. Such proposals only indicate that Grudinin does NOT understand the principles of development.
  32. kpmx
    kpmx 14 February 2018 21: 44
    0
    Jews (USA), offer the biblical -: ... stew or birthright ... I, for the firstborn .... !!!
  33. Ber
    Ber 14 February 2018 22: 18
    +3
    1. The stupidity expressed by the author.
    Bottom line: the Russian economy will continue to lag behind other emerging markets, while Putin’s Russia will increasingly resemble the “famous historical experiments” that Putin himself described in the Duma in 2012 year.


    2. If the phrase is not taken out of context and it was really expressed by Putin, then the stupidity expressed by Putin.
    A few years ago, Putin said that communist teachings doomed Russia to lag behind developed countries.


    I am not an expert, but this is not necessary here, it’s enough just to be observant, attentive, and to have critical thinking both to ourselves and to public people.

    Justification.
    a) Until 1917, Tsarist Russia was an agrarian country, as it could be no one would ever know.
    I do not approve of communism, but I am not a supporter of what was built, but of what happened, socialism, which needed several more generations to strengthen itself as a civilization, a Russian-speaking civilization.
    From 1924 to 1941, a system was built that economically surpassed ALL ECONOMY OF EUROPE, not Germany, but the whole of Europe.

    b) The USSR, USA, England, Germany, France, Canada, the Scandinavian countries, Switzerland, after 1945, had approximately the same percentage for 100 people, scientists, inventors, people with higher education, highly skilled workers.

    In the USSR there were about 300 million people, in the United States about the same 300 million people, plus or minus,
    but the USA, as part of the global market economy, also had England, Canada, Germany, France, the Scandinavian countries, Switzerland, and we can safely multiply this by two 600 million people, that is, not all of the golden billion, for the rest were compensated by eastern Europe in the same proportion .

    For the earlier it’s not statistics, but just an example from which statistics can be obtained if desired, but it takes a lot of time, it’s not so simple, and the ratio will naturally be different but the approach will remain the same.
    For 100 people in the USSR in the percentage ratio of conditionally 5 scientists, 10 inventors, 20 people with higher education.
    The NATO countries in a percentage ratio, unlike the USSR, should be considered as two in a large ratio, that is, for 200 people, 10 scientists, 20 inventors, 40 people with higher education.

    at) In addition, emigrants came to France from exiled colonies, England from former colonies, to the USA and Canada from all over the world every year, the USSR did not have this flow of people from abroad with higher education, scientists and inventors, that is, in addition to the natural acquisition of personnel their own system of higher education, the main NATO countries received, even an additional percentage.

    Just for clarity ...

    To 10 scientists +1, to 20 inventors +1, to 40 people with higher education +5.

    And in addition, the USSR has gained 5 new scientists, 10 inventors, 20 people with higher education over a year or five-year period.
    In the main NATO countries, over the course of a year or five-year period, there are 11 new scientists, 11 inventors, and 45 people with higher education.

    This is all very, very, very rude, but I can’t show it in any other quick sense, since it will take more than a month to collect statistics.

    But with It, we kept parity in Armament, Civil Aviation, Nuclear Power, exceeded, and very much excelled in Space, and struck such that by inertia we surpass so far, otherwise we naturally lagged behind because the best shots went to defense and specialists just lacked by virtue of a smaller population than the NATO bloc had, while recently until 1917 80% of the population were generally illiterate.


    Foreign experts compare Putin with Brezhnev, and also hint that he looks like Andropov: after all, there are special services behind him. A few years ago, Putin said that communist teachings doomed Russia to lag behind developed countries.


    This is such a lie that it can be said boldly, a lie which borders on the betrayal of its people.
    1. Slava myasnikov
      Slava myasnikov 15 February 2018 09: 44
      0
      About how Russia was until 1917, including its economy, read Mendeleev. Or is nonsense easier to write? And google on the subject of circulations of gold Russian coins by year of issue, this is for even greater "credibility" of your "February theses."
      1. Ber
        Ber 19 February 2018 22: 46
        0
        About how Russia was until 1917, including its economy, read Mendeleev. Or is nonsense easier to write? And google on the subject of circulations of gold Russian coins by year of issue, this is for even greater "credibility" of your "February theses."


        Zombie fool the industry in Tsarist Russia is the Rusbalt automobile plant, and shipyards, ten times less in volume than in France in 1914.

        What the fuck are gold coins, where did you come from? Such? Tsarist Russia already by 1915 could not provide troops with 7,62 rounds for Maxims and Mosinoks, and shells. I bought everything abroad, Yeltsin paid these debts in the 90s, after 80 years ....

        Igor Sikorsky is the world's first four motor bombing vehicle to which tsar’s ministers and generals put sticks in wheels.

        Porokhovschikov’s tank created a year before the British, they gave the same deEng, but for huu ... y Lebedinsky, but there weren’t any money for the matter like under Putin now ...

        I can do this for about 15 minutes, but I’ll always end up alone in Tsarist Russia 80% were not grammatical, and this means only Russia could never have made a technological leap.

        ALE Disease The first satellite in the world is Russian in the USSR, the first astronaut is Russian in the USSR, the first spacewalk in the world (Leonov) is Russian in the USSR, the first female astronaut is Russian (Tereshkova)

        How are you victims of the Unified State Examination and the victims of demonic Orthodoxy are staggering, I won’t even apologize, you don’t know the history of your own country and you don’t know the latest history of the Russian people, 1917-1991, but only Jewish interpretations like EOBENE (((saints)))) 90- x
        1. wersa
          wersa 19 February 2018 22: 55
          0
          Quote: Ber
          The first satellite in the world is Russian

          Soviet.
          Quote: Ber
          the first astronaut is Russian

          Soviet.
          Quote: Ber
          The first EVA in the world (Leonov) is Russian

          Soviet.
          Quote: Ber
          the first woman astronaut is Russian

          Soviet.
          What a liar zaboristy caught.
          Quote: Ber
          you do not know the recent history of the Russian people

          And do you know? Obviously not. You don’t even understand how Russians differ from Soviet ones.
          1. aws4
            aws4 20 February 2018 03: 23
            0
            oh how not honest oh how not ashamed of you)))))))))))) the first Soviet satellite here you are right but alas there is no such nationality as Soviet !!!! Gagarin by nationality Russian !!! Tereshkova by nationality Russian !!! I can’t say to Lionov’s account everything is muddy ... so at least you’re breaking your head, even shouting to the whole world, but nothing will change the fact that it was the Russian man and woman who were the first to visit space !!! I understand it hurts you and hatred overwhelms your heart, but again it’s Russians by nationality and man and woman laughing By the way, whatever you think, I’m not Russian myself and representatives of my nationality have not yet been in space .. laughing
          2. Ber
            Ber 22 February 2018 20: 52
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            And do you know? Obviously not. You don’t even understand how Russians differ from Soviet ones.


            Anthem of Russia ..... Union of non-crushable free republics rallied forever GREAT RUSSIA.

            Now try to distinguish than EVERYTHING from the COUNCIL in modern language is different.

            We Rusich no more than 20 million remaining Orthodox Slavs, unfortunate deceived ancestors, and Rusichchev .... an endangered species, it's about the pagans who won in all wars over the past 1000 years., It is becoming less and less.
            And we are more and more inclined towards Islam. YES THIS IS THE SAME CHURBAN RELIGIONS AS ISLAM, and if these are foreigners from the south, then what's the difference ??????

            That Christians are from the south, for northerners are blockheads, that Muslims are from the south, for northerners are blockbuster,
            that is, Zhezemtsy, but Muslims retained the institution of a family, they have five and eight children, women do not cheat on husbands by 99%, unlike Christians, take care of children, unlike Orthodox priests, I can list for a long time but ..... men from science such as bob (committee of public safety) chose Islam, simple guys like Seaside Partisans (no one will be able to pour mud over them when more than 200 Amonvites could not defeat 15 Russian guys) I myself am a former Orthodox, standing on the side of Islam, but I am exploring the paganism of my ancestors, a kind of Christianity from Dobrynia and his sister Malusha, trying to understand why they chose this Churban faith?
          3. Ber
            Ber 27 February 2018 16: 13
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            And do you know? Obviously not. You don’t even understand how Russians differ from Soviet ones.


            Painful in the passport of the taxable Russian Empire, there was only a column of religion in which it was written Orthodox, Jew etc..

            Only in the passports of the USSR was the column nationality written, where Russian, Ukrainian, Kazakh, etc. were written ...


            In the modern passport of the Russian Federation, the nationality column was removed.

            ???????
  34. Radikal
    Radikal 15 February 2018 00: 49
    +1
    A few years ago, Putin said that communist doctrine doomed Russia to lag behind developed countries.
    Little liar! wassat PS I imagine - what will begin now! Adepts - For battle!
  35. Radikal
    Radikal 15 February 2018 00: 55
    +2
    Quote: you Vlad
    Quote: Stas157
    You are right, only that was your desk nomenclature. Communist Yeltsin and communist Putin did their dark deed - they finished off the remnants of socialism.

    That's funny because laughing And your part nomenclature, what was doing at that time? laughingAnd Putin in general, what does this booth have to do with everything? When he came to power, they had already pulled everything apart, divided it and sold it to the west!

    Not everything is visible, since the guarantor's friends after his arrival “rose” so that no one dreamed! wassat PS Worse, when the "lawyer" b_e_zm_o_zgl_y_y_! tongue
  36. Radikal
    Radikal 15 February 2018 01: 08
    +2
    What are his achievements? Well, here is one of them: Putin recently overtook Leonid Brezhnev for the duration of his reign. And Putin's "economic record" (the so-called stability) has a direct connection with the Brezhnev stagnation. Therefore, Putin really “more and more resembles Brezhnev,” the journalist believes.
    There are several such small nuances! Firstly, Brezhnev’s difference from Putin is that Brezhnev went through the war and had a huge life and managerial experience! Secondly, the Guarantor was only distinguished by the fact that in Germany he lost the service keys that the landlady (German) found at home or in the apartment where he lived, after which he was returned to the Union, and "sent" to a certain position from the KGB of the USSR to Leningradsky State University, where he and Sobchak found each other! That's all the merit! Therefore, his anti-communism is understandable, and at the same time so flawed that it is visible to the naked eye! sad
  37. Radikal
    Radikal 15 February 2018 01: 17
    +3
    Quote: Petr1968
    Quote: Pax tecum
    Putin, by his own admission, is a convinced liberal. It has been proven quite specifically, since the beginning of the 1990's. What else do you expect, what "fairy tales" that you want to believe in?

    No tales. Only the result. The liberals raised the country ruined by the communists and made it the strongest in the world. Now we have both the market and democracy and the sovereignty and power of the country. With komunyak only power and sovereignty ... no one canceled the sausage trains and 10 years in line for Lada.

    Listen, banderlog, where are you knocking on the clave from Kiev, or Lviv? sad
  38. viktor1952
    viktor1952 15 February 2018 02: 27
    +1
    Russia now faces a historic challenge: To show a new path for the development of society. The building of such a society is based on the laws of the UNIVERSE. Since 1980 they have been transferred to humanity. Putin knows about them, but the difficulty is that this path is completely new and he does not dare to follow it. But RUSSIA has no other way. Under capitalism, man is secondary. The main thing is money, and Man is in last place. It can be replaced by a machine. Which leads to the development of a civilization machine, and this is a dead end. In a new society, man will come first. We are created in the image and likeness of GOD. We are the children of GOD. We are many dimensional beings with unlimited possibilities. Our future lies in the development of our abilities. The transition to such a society we all need to accelerate. Its construction has already begun. It is important not to make any mistakes: War, revolution, unrest. It is very sad that in the programs of applicants there is no direction for the development of the human spirit, there is only a direction for the development of the body and intelligence. I will explain. The development of the spirit implies: to explain to man the meaning of his manifestation in the dense plane and his task in this life. Explain to him how the universe is arranged. To reveal the concepts of Space, Time, Evolution, Consciousness, Subconsciousness ... The structure of the soul and the meaning of DNA. The device of man and his capabilities, etc. Reveal the laws and secrets of the Universe .... And many, many more. I repeat that this information already exists on Earth. Now on Earth, people are being selected for 6 civilizations. These data would greatly help many to change their minds and have time to move on to the next stage of their development. I agree with the author of this article.
    1. Ber
      Ber 27 February 2018 16: 26
      0
      The transition to such a society we all need to accelerate. Its construction has already begun. It is important not to make any mistakes: War, revolution, unrest.


      Watching which GOD? Gods are different ......

      What is the Bible? This is a ball of wickedness of the blood of pederasty (sadom and gomor).

      We take the ancient legend of the Sumerians, God created people from clay, fashioned many people, many keywords, as well as religious myths of different nations.

      We take the Bible, there is also a verse in the New Testament indicating that if God wants it, he will do (of) many of the stones of his sons.

      Now we take two episodes from the bible The Creation of Adam and Eve, the second episode of Noah's Ark.

      Adam and Eve, how could humanity be born in this case without perversion?
      A perversion of incest, a demon of sexual relations between relatives, how could the descendants of Abama and Eve breed? The answer is no how.

      Are the children smart now and if they start asking such questions? To which no adult can answer without blushing like cancer.

      This is what imperceptibly fits into the subconscious.
      (Kashpirovsky to help what kind of substance is this subconscious)


      Now about the flood, only Noah’s family was saved, and the key concept here is that Noah the so-called righteous is the same scum as Abraham, because he doesn’t take the girl his son loves into the ark, as a result, the family was saved, the flood ended and what do we have? ???

      Only Noah, his wife and his children remained on earth, how could modern humanity come from NOA without perversions of incest, and incest. ??????

      And can children also ask similar questions? And how to answer them to adults.

      It is clear that it is impossible without religion, but it is impossible to impose on the people the religion of foreign perverts the believers that humanity came from incest, that is, from perversions of incest.

      As a person familiar with psychology and not only I, but many people see the consequences of this rotten biblical Christian culture, modern Europe and the USA, where they are already holding sadom gay parades, a party of pedophiles has already been registered in the Netherlands, they will soon reach the incest legalization, the number of bloody murders written in the Old Testament, when Moses ordered the killing of almost every fifth.

      How can one listen to people for whom the righteous are people who, in the Russian mentality, are criminals, cowards, and perverts.

      Abraham is a coward and a murderer who, if there was a hopeless situation, instead of killing himself to commit suicide, for example, as Samurai in Japan, but saving his son’s life, decides to cut his throat by sacrificing, saving his own skin.

      And Noah, instead of choosing the most worthy men and women for his children, getting married and marrying them, takes only animals onto the ship, pushing his children to incest, which is a perversion for the Russian mentality.

      1. A coward and a murderer who tried to kill his own son, the first Righteous ???

      2. The perverted incest mixer who left a lot of people to die before the flood is the second Righteous ???

      3. The Jewish god who created not 100 men and 100 women, but only one man and one woman, pushing them to perversions of incest, in the form of punishment, expelling from paradise.
      This is a punishment from God, to push for perversions that created the killer of Cain, here is a god who loves everyone ... .... Just how?

      The name of such a god, for the Russian mentality there can be only one thing, and the righteous of such a god are the first killer, and the coward the second pervert who did not help many people who left them to die.

      And what kind of angels of this god? Killing all the firstborn of the Egyptian people,
      angels who kill children for the Russian mentality can only be fallen angels, which are called demons.


      If it weren’t for Lenin and Stalin, then the followers of this zombie influence (troubles) of a foreign god led by Hitler would have destroyed our people, those soldiers who shot the children of old people and women on buckles bore the inscription German in German with us.

      And if the power led by Putin is not able to understand these simplest things that were clear to our ancestors who fought with the interventionists in the Civil War, then Putin and the government are specifically hypnotized by zombies, since it’s not possible to suspect normal people, but the mind is blind and zombie.

      Conclusions where will such blind people lead us?
  39. Cormorants
    Cormorants 15 February 2018 04: 23
    0
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    That's for sure. I saw it all myself. The refinery plant that was located near my settlement, the new owner-tenant, built under the USSR, exploited until all the production facilities got up, and when Gazprom offered to buy it to him, modernization and equipment replacement said "But do I need this? Your factory, I pay you a rent, I need products, not your repairs, and refused to rent. This is the main incentive for modern owners of Russian land. Deflate as much as possible and invest as little as possible .

    Quote: Mar. Tira
    That's for sure. I saw it all myself. The refinery plant that was located near my settlement, the new owner-tenant, built under the USSR, exploited until all the production facilities got up, and when Gazprom offered to buy it to him, modernization and equipment replacement said "But do I need this? Your factory, I pay you a rent, I need products, not your repairs, and refused to rent. This is the main incentive for modern owners of Russian land. Deflate as much as possible and invest as little as possible .

    The refinery is now working and, thank God, they plan or are already making civilian products - wheelchairs for the disabled. And for us to have growth, we need to build factories.
  40. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 15 February 2018 09: 17
    +4
    The GDP indicator began to resemble a beer mug, in which there is a liquid called beer (a product of the real economy) and foam (a product of the virtual economy). Today, all Western countries in this circle of foam more than liquid.
    Money began to go mainly to where you can get high profits, and immediately. Gigantic financial markets appeared, which began to absorb the growing paper pulp and generate astronomical profits. The real economy began to look like an anachronism for seekers of fast and big money.
    Comparing GDP is currently incorrect, because it is 90% of services, not production. It's a bubble
  41. Slava myasnikov
    Slava myasnikov 15 February 2018 09: 39
    0
    "Communism has doomed the USSR to lag. Capitalism in Russia has also led to stagnation." It could not be otherwise, because both of these ideologies, Bolshevism and liberalism, are alien to Russia, brought in from the outside, from the west and are specifically designed to destroy Russian statehood.
  42. Radikal
    Radikal 15 February 2018 13: 03
    +2
    Quote: Slava Myasnikov
    "Communism has doomed the USSR to lag. Capitalism in Russia has also led to stagnation." It could not be otherwise, because both of these ideologies, Bolshevism and liberalism, are alien to Russia, brought in from the outside, from the west and are specifically designed to destroy Russian statehood.

    "God save the king ...!" wassat
  43. Tektor
    Tektor 15 February 2018 16: 51
    +1
    "Putin isn't a Genius. He's Leonid Brezhnev, ”the author writes. “Putin is not a genius. He is Leonid Brezhnev. " Chris Miller
    What was the problem of the Brezhnev era? He brought with him irremovable functionaries of old age and created a gerontocracy, which led the country to "stagnation". Where around Putin barely moving and also thinking old-fashioned perlars? They are not here. So one of the theses of the author is false. And the whole article is built on this. And since the article looks like a lie, it reads like a lie, and it seems like that from the headline, then this is a lie.
  44. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 15 February 2018 21: 24
    +1
    You Vlad,
    Yes, yes, yes, do not lose hope, the savior is coming, here is a little more ... crying
  45. dojjdik
    dojjdik 16 February 2018 08: 17
    0
    two world wars were what helped the states put together a considerable gold and foreign exchange reserve; Putin doesn’t understand this, but in vain we in Europe were British and British, and Jews overseas developed well; their "vaunted capitalism" has nothing to do with it; we can’t overtake and overtake them now no matter what system we have; but we can well return socialism because for ordinary people it’s a more progressive system
  46. naidas
    naidas 16 February 2018 15: 46
    +1
    Of course, I apologize, but can it stop investing in developed countries and forgive debts? And the program can work for anyone, because it is personnel and expediency that decide, not thoughts.
    In the 20th century, the communist USSR had the highest development rate, in the 21st century, the communist China.
    But already in the 60-70s, the Soviet leadership did not dare to make strategic breakthroughs both in the USSR economy, outlined by the “Kosygin” reforms of those years, and in foreign policy. In this regard, the remark of A.N. Kosygina in an interview with the Prime Minister of Czechoslovakia, Lubomir Strougal in Prague in the spring of 1971: “Nothing remained, everything collapsed. All reform work is stopped ... Reforms torpedo. The people with whom I developed materials on economic reform have already been removed, and others have been called upon. And I'm not expecting anything. There is “reeling” in ideology and foreign policy ... ”
    1. kan123
      kan123 18 February 2018 20: 19
      0
      Duc reform did not have the opportunity to carry out. This was clearly understood, after this experiment in Yugoslavia, Poland - self-financing made a profit, and through a year of bankruptcy. It was impossible to carry them out in the Soviet system, especially in the CMEA countries, because of the withdrawal of the party and government lines, from the foundations, unlike the CPC China.
  47. kan123
    kan123 18 February 2018 20: 14
    0
    What kind of lag is there - in the very rout, arranged in the late 80s and early 90s, foreign journalists ran around, searched for poverty - they found one homeless person all over Moscow. Dressed Bole less decently, ate dumplings.
  48. wersa
    wersa 18 February 2018 20: 15
    0
    Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
    Putin said that communist teachings doomed Russia to lag behind developed countries.

    He said it very softly. In fact, everything is much worse. Moreover, not even an order of magnitude, but an order of magnitude.
    Quote: Oleg Chuvakin
    Western scholars argue that capitalist Russia lags behind developed countries

    It is unclear how they were able to determine this, since capitalist Russia existed from March 16, 1917 to January 19, 1918.
    And to those who are not in the know, I remind you that in the classical political economy, the slave-owning OEF is followed by the feudal OEF. And not capitalist. Before it, society still needs to be valued.
  49. VladGashek
    VladGashek 19 February 2018 00: 15
    0
    Great idea: "Kudrin offers to spend them on health and education." But the goal of this idea is to support the West. Where will healthy and educated Russians go? It is unlikely that they will remain in the Russian Federation. Here they have no future in sight. And therefore, they will go to the prosperous West, where they will realize their education as hundreds of thousands of their predecessors. So healthy people will go there to support the West with their physical labor. And in Russia we will remain orphaned and spiritually miserable, going to the temple with requests for prosperity.
  50. Boris Muromtsev
    Boris Muromtsev 19 February 2018 12: 37
    0
    Germans do not have enough refugees