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EUGAL: North Stream-2's younger brother and the last nail in the lid of an American gas coffin

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12 February 2018 of the German National Gas Transmission System Operators Association FNB Gas has announced the inclusion of the European Gas Pipeline Link (EUGAL) gas pipeline connecting the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline and the gas hub in Olbernhau, located on the German-Czech border, into the German development plan gas network on 2018-2028

What is EUGAL

The operator of the gas pipeline will be Gascade Gastransport, owned by Russian Gazprom and Wintershall, which will receive 50,5%. The junior construction partners will be German Fluxys Deutschland, Gasunie Deutschland Transport Services and Ontras Gastransport, which will own the 16,5% of the new “pipe”.

Actually, the construction itself, which will cost 7 billion euros, is expected to begin in the second quarter of 2018. The gas pipeline length of 485 km will run parallel to the OPAL gas pipeline and will have a throughput of 55 billion cubic meters, that is exactly as much as the new Russian gas pipeline through the Baltic Sea that prevents Washington and Kiev from pumping into the German gas transmission system.

EUGAL: North Stream-2's younger brother and the last nail in the lid of an American gas coffin


As we see, all of the Russian and German partners in this scheme are interconnected. Actually, both gas pipelines will be constructed almost simultaneously, and their launches should be fully synchronized in time.

Thus, Germany not only draws a line under the discussion of whether or not Nord Stream-2 will be built, but also shows all its neighbors and opponents that this decision is final and not subject to appeal.

In fact, the construction of a new gas pipeline has in fact already begun, since the first batch of pipes for it has already been shipped and delivered to storage sites in years. Lubmin, Dregeheide and Prenzlau.

Is it any wonder that, despite the seemingly anti-Russian rhetoric of Angela Merkel, the German side turned on the non-switching “green light” of the second part of the “Nord Stream”. Its operator, Nord Stream 2 AG, in November 2017, was given permission to work in the area of ​​Germany’s continental shelf. Further, at the end of January 2018, a permit was issued for the construction and operation of the offshore part of the Nord Stream-2 in the territorial waters of Germany, as well as in the land section of the gas pipeline in the Lubmin region near Greifswald.

This can put a big and fat point on stories gas confrontation between the US and the USSR / Russia and the energy war for the redistribution of the gas market in Europe ...

The redistribution of the gas market in Europe - a geopolitical issue



Gas is a convenient and environmentally friendly type of fuel and raw materials. The development of routes for its supply to the European market has always been a matter of changing the geopolitical influence of certain players. The construction of the first trans-European gas pipeline from the USSR to Western Europe, Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod, was one of the main reasons for the sharp exacerbation of relations between Moscow, Washington and Berlin in the late 1970-x and early 1980-x. The Americans understood perfectly well that by launching “Russian gas” into Europe, they would lose some of their influence over it.

Today, nothing has changed in these geopolitical alignments. It is the degree of dependence of European countries on oil and gas supplies that shows how loyal allies of Washington will be their European partners. As we see today, in relations between Europe and the USA, not everything is rosy and this is partly due to the fact that, despite the collapse of the USSR and the temporary weakening of its position, Moscow was able to win the battle for Washington over the European energy market.

Washington loses to Russia

In the 1990 of the United States it seemed that a little bit more, and Russia would be finally destroyed and its wealth would be at their complete disposal. But by the middle of the 2000-s it became clear that these dreams were not destined to come true and the States needed to prepare for a new confrontation with this recalcitrant fragment of a great country.



Initially, the problem did not seem difficult. The baseline for the attack on Russia was excellent. Moscow has not yet recovered from the consequences of the last Russian distemper, and it was a trivial task to straddle the transit routes of Russian energy resources to Europe.

The first Ukrainian Maidan, as we understand it, quite “accidentally” coincided with the start of the American attack on Gazprom’s European positions. Washington set the goal of at least halving (from 21% to about 10%) the presence of a Russian gas monopolist in the European market. We will not describe once again the vicissitudes of this titanic struggle. In summary, what seemed easy in the 2004 year was not only impracticable, but also marked the beginning of the collapse of Russia's entire containment strategy in Europe.

Today, after 13 years after the opening of hostilities against Russian gas, Gazprom controls 35-36% of the European gas market (instead of 21%) and seriously set out to take the 40% bar in the future. And this is a rout. The defeat of America and the important stage in building Greater Eurasia, this most dreadful dream of any American politician - from Barack Obama to Donald Trump.
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    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 14 February 2018 07: 14
      +5
      And why, and most importantly, why did you spend so much time writing letters that have no meaning except for how to "insert a hairpin" to someone.
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  3. lis-ik
    lis-ik 14 February 2018 06: 49
    +19
    Even if everything is so rosy, I don’t see a reason for joy for the bulk of the population of the Russian Federation, just the oligarchs will become even “a little bit” richer, and specifically Russia will not have anything from this and will continue this way until the constitution item on mineral resources returns.
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 14 February 2018 07: 06
      +14
      Quote: lis-ik
      Even if everything is so rosy, I don’t see a reason for joy for the bulk of the population of the Russian Federation, just the oligarchs will become even “a little bit” richer, and specifically Russia will not have anything from this and will continue this way until the constitution item on mineral resources returns.

      Frank delirium why write? If everything was the way you write, inside Russia no one would notice changes from the fall in oil and gas prices in 2014. And Nord Stream-2 simply excludes Ukraine and Poland from transit. That is the whole reason for their howling about it.
      1. seos
        seos 14 February 2018 11: 00
        +14
        And you imagine what to read about gas supplies to Europe, at $ 300 per 1000 cubic meters, say to the inhabitants of the Far East, where gas costs 9920$ for the same 1000 cubic meters, but for the money hell where you buy without a damn ... these Gazprom ***** it would be better to gasify Russia, millions of Russian citizens do not have access to gas.
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 14 February 2018 13: 04
          +9
          Quote: seos
          And you imagine what to read about gas supplies to Europe, at $ 300 per 1000 cubic meters, say to the inhabitants of the Far East, where gas costs 9920$ for the same 1000 cubic meters, but for the money hell where you buy without a damn ... these Gazprom ***** it would be better to gasify Russia, millions of Russian citizens do not have access to gas.

          Perhaps you didn’t mean dollars, but rubles wassat . So $ 300 * 56 = 16800 rubles. per 1000 cubic meters m

          "Tariffs - retail prices for natural gas sold by Gazprom gas distribution Far East to the population of the Khabarovsk Territory, effective from July 1, 2016"
          http://newtariffs.ru/tariff/tarify-roznichnye-tse
          ny-na-prirodnyi-gaz-realizuemyi-gazprom-gazoraspr
          edelenie-dalnii-vostok-0
          Price from 4500 rub. up to 6500 rub. per 1000 cubic meters m
          1. Anyone
            Anyone 14 February 2018 15: 49
            +7
            I also do not see any reason to rejoice at the next gas pipeline / oil pipeline in the EU. My medium-pressure gas pipeline runs 900 meters from the site. Connecting to it costs somewhere from 750 thousand rubles and above, and that if at least 12 sites are typed. This is the average price in the region: design, approval, approval, installation, insert, interior design, boiler, boiler design, ventilation project, etc. And pay for everything, pay, pay ... I would generally tax the sale of gas and oil abroad with gigantic duties. But oil / gas processing products would provide the most favorable conditions for export. And then all of our near-power oligarchy stuck like a vampire to the bowels and pumps and sells, pumps and sells. And the state receives taxes from this, which are directly sent to the United States, buying American debt on them. Neither industry is developing, nor production. Only officials, their relatives and the oil business are swollen with money - they have already bought all the real estate in Miami and London ... Therefore, it seems to me that these enthusiastic fairy tales of the Vienna forest "about the pipe", which is filled with RuNet, are ordered by Gazprom or Rosneft))
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 14 February 2018 16: 17
              +7
              Tell me - if a light bulb burns out in your house, is Putin personally to blame for the lack of light?
              Now, if it’s so expensive to make a connection in our region, it may not be Miller’s own fault, but local ghouls from the distribution, who also allow Thieves and Corruptionists to distribute wiring through “pocket” firms. Also, it is very interesting what the actual cost of such a connection is, although they will not tell this under any torture. Unfortunately, "natural monopolies" still remain the "unshakable islands" of "shovels" in the worst sense of the term. They continue to look at people as "what are you pecking at" instead of the market "we are glad to see a new buyer." And the problem here is the same - the Tops are engaged in strategic tasks, here they are “winning” in the World Gas, Oil, Electric and Uranium Wars, and “on the ground” are such analogues of the “ensigns Shmatko” - they spoil people's lives and thereby spoil the image of the whole huge Company .
              It is also necessary to separate - a) bards on the ground and b) "uselessness to sell resources." If I described the first point above, then with the second - well, you can’t be on this site and so “not smart”. Many times here they wrote that - if you leave the market, then others will immediately come to your place. If Russia begins to sell more on the domestic gas market and less on the external, then we will simply lose income from sales over the hill, and this is much more than inside. If you do not believe it, then try to find at least one example that Western companies would tremble to get the right to sell gas inside Russia! This has never happened, ALL they want to export. Why - because it’s more expensive.
              No, I’m not an apologist for "let's sell only resources," but let's face it - will the EU buy its processed products instead of gas itself and will it close its gas processing plants? The answer is obvious - NO, they will buy gas from others and, in retaliation and for protectionism, will not let our plastics go.
              Therefore, it is necessary to do both actions at once - to sell both Gas and Processing. good That they themselves greed would require to buy "cheap Russian plastics and petroleum products." repeat good
              1. Anyone
                Anyone 14 February 2018 20: 16
                +2
                You have written so much, and everything is not the case.
                1) The company is Mosoblgaz JSC, and not the "pocket firms" that you invented. Do not own the question - do not write incompetent lengthy comments.
                2) To sell products and the result of processing of raw materials is the right decision. Sell ​​gas / oil / roundwood / etc. Raw materials are the destiny of economies and gas stations. I want for my country a strong, knowledge-based and developed competitive economy. You want a gas station country. That is the difference.
                3) Maxim about Putin and a blown out bulb from your training manual, are you creative?
                1. rbt
                  rbt 15 February 2018 00: 20
                  +1
                  you want, we all want - what can you? That is the question. Formulate a constructive proposal, creative you are ours.
                2. Mih1974
                  Mih1974 15 February 2018 05: 45
                  +2
                  I insist - you need to understand the voiced connection price. Because it’s impossible to argue that it’s expensive or cheap. You need to see the cost of the work, what is changing there and yes you can’t do without a project, you’ve already "done" that the water parks are falling from the "cunning" architectural solutions and the bridges are "dancing", and the Project is the name of the one whom it will be possible to REALLY HAVE a tragedy. Here is the fact that instead of all kinds of gazmyas with bentonids and blowing their nose in 5000 bills, Gazprom should direct money to reduce (for example) the connection, at least for the idea of ​​"expanding domestic demand for products." good
                  2) Once again - the United States does not simply force the EU to refuse to buy Russian gas through the Kama Sutra, it is precisely what they want to force them to buy their own !! That is, the Dermokatia deposit - is there a backward gas station country, or is selling energy resources still a more modern and worthy way to conduct the economy?
                  Well, let me give you an "analogy" - here you are or your spouse buys products in the store and then prepares food for you, but the store owner "understands that he is losing money" and refuses to sell you more products, but offers to buy cooked from these Food products and of course much more expensive !! Do you like it, do you agree to this, or having a choice - buy products in another store? fool The same is with oil and gas - if some stupid person refuses to sell, then his place with joy is taken by competitors !!
                  3) Yes, it can be said that “Putin is to blame” for the fact that in our city they litter some places, roads are bad, yes, yes, he is “to blame” for not reviving SMERSH, the NKVD and “10 for being late for work”. For then the roads would be good, and the connection to the gas would be a gift (not kidding) and much more. Just again, there would be hundreds of thousands in the camps or shot, again would come "black craters" at night "for a joke" and much more from the then "happiness". And you can blame - it’s a local measure, his loyal deputy deputies, bosses and specific people who litter, teenagers - beating lanterns and breaking benches.
            2. LMN
              LMN 15 February 2018 01: 51
              +5
              Quote: Anyone
              I would generally impose huge duties on the sale of gas and oil abroad


              And what duties can be imposed on state corporation ??
              There, and so it seems, the main profit goes to the budget.
              1. Cube123
                Cube123 15 February 2018 07: 10
                +2
                Quote: LMN
                Quote: Anyone
                I would generally impose huge duties on the sale of gas and oil abroad


                And what duties can be imposed on state corporation ??
                There, and so it seems, the main profit goes to the budget.

                For those interested: Gazprom taxes in the budget for 2017 = 2,2 trillion. rub. (about $ 40 billion). Approximately $ 280 for each resident of Russia.
                http://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/gazprom-uveli
                chit-vyplatu-nalogov-po-itogam-2017-g-na-15percen
                t-do-2-2-trln-rubley-1011729482
                Plus, dividends on shares.
          2. seos
            seos 15 February 2018 12: 26
            +1
            There is gas in Khabarovsk, it is partially present in the Khabarovsk Territory, in some cities in the Far East they have not seen gas since the collapse of the Union, for example, gas discovery is very rare and only in cylinders of 50 liters (11 cubic meters) costs about 6000 rubles ( more than $ 10000 per cube). In the neighboring town of Partizansk, gas cannot even be bought for that kind of money ... etc.
            I don’t know if there is gas in Vladivostok and Ussuriysk.
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        2. saltickov.
          saltickov. 14 February 2018 17: 45
          +2
          It’s like the joys of the little rich will become richer, nothing mere mortals, and mind you, 50,5 percent do not belong to us, the control packet is not ours, so draw conclusions.
        3. Varna
          Varna 15 February 2018 00: 56
          +1
          Quote: seos
          And you imagine what to read about gas supplies to Europe, at $ 300 per 1000 cubic meters, say to the inhabitants of the Far East, where gas costs 9920$ for the same 1000 cubic meters, but for the money hell where you buy without a damn ... these Gazprom ***** it would be better to gasify Russia, millions of Russian citizens do not have access to gas.

          Seos - the following comment of the Cube clearly shows - you are a fat troll, and you have been identified))))
          1. seos
            seos 16 February 2018 01: 53
            +1
            Pink fantasies with rainbow ponies in Russia usually encounter harsh reality .... 80% of the population of the Far East do not have access to gas ...
            Those tariffs may work for Khabarovsk, but I repeat once again that there is no gas in other cities, all city storages from the 90s are empty (gas is not supplied to gasified houses) ... there are a shortage of gas cylinders, you can’t even buy them for 6000 rubles , it is necessary to conclude an enslaving agreement, which even at sky-high prices is unprofitable ...
            And as you can see from the above tariffs, gas in the region is exactly in 100 times more expensive than the declared price of Gazprom ....
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 14 February 2018 07: 14
      +15
      An oligarch (by definition) is richer in power (owner plus ownership). What is Miller boss? The owner of Gazprom is Russia. It is very correctly said that there are no oligarchs left in Russia. Someone from the "former" accepted the rules of the game, and who accepted a ton - escaped. Now he sits in London and thinks, as if he had not been taken away "acquired by overwork." laughing
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 14 February 2018 14: 17
        +1
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        The owner of Gazprom is Russia.

        And where to go for dividends?
        1. marline
          marline 14 February 2018 15: 05
          +1
          Quote: Petr1968
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          The owner of Gazprom is Russia.

          And where to go for dividends?

          Where to and under the Soviet regime wink
          Tovaristch do not engage in demagogy - do not confuse "your personal coat with the state"
        2. Cube123
          Cube123 14 February 2018 16: 11
          +2
          Quote: Petr1968
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          The owner of Gazprom is Russia.

          And where to go for dividends?

          Buy shares and get 8,5% per annum on them. This is more than a contribution to Sberbank.
      2. sapporo1959
        sapporo1959 15 February 2018 00: 51
        0
        And if the owner of Gazprom is Russia, then why are we living so badly? Nevertheless, the average pension of two hundred dollars for Russia where she is the mistress and even Gazprom itself is somehow not impressive! Well, Ukrainians certainly surpassed the joy of the patriotic party, but can Ukraine be an example for all our great achievements achieved by our irreplaceable and irreplaceable leader, without which we all will die and the revolution will begin and the State Department will oppress us and make us sing their anthems ..
    3. forester
      forester 14 February 2018 08: 44
      +8
      Quote: lis-ik
      Even if everything is so rosy, I don’t see a reason for joy for the bulk of the population of the Russian Federation, just the oligarchs will become even “a little bit” richer, and specifically Russia will not have anything from this and will continue this way until the constitution item on mineral resources returns.

      You are rarely stupid - the development of the gas market in geyropa is new jobs for ordinary hard workers in Russia, and not only billions in the pocket of our rich, it is billions of rubles to the Russian budget, and if you do not have enough money, it’s only your merit - tear off your carcass from the couch and go work
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 14 February 2018 11: 22
        +12
        Quote: forester
        Quote: lis-ik
        Even if everything is so rosy, I don’t see a reason for joy for the bulk of the population of the Russian Federation, just the oligarchs will become even “a little bit” richer, and specifically Russia will not have anything from this and will continue this way until the constitution item on mineral resources returns.

        You are rarely stupid - the development of the gas market in geyropa is new jobs for ordinary hard workers in Russia, and not only billions in the pocket of our rich, it is billions of rubles to the Russian budget, and if you do not have enough money, it’s only your merit - tear off your carcass from the couch and go work

        You are stupid, because your arguments are a set of stamps on the topic "Gazprom is Russia's wealth." You have not learned to look deeper. As for my money, I still have enough of it, but not thanks to it, but contrary to the state’s efforts to finish off small and medium-sized businesses, but this is not for long, so I secured myself and additionally work in an agricultural holding, where bankruptcy is also going on. Watch less TV, talk more and read more.
        1. marline
          marline 14 February 2018 11: 42
          +3
          Quote: lis-ik
          As for my money, I still have enough of it, but not thanks to it, but contrary to the state’s efforts to finish off small and medium-sized businesses, but this is not for long, so I secured myself and additionally work in an agricultural holding, where bankruptcy is also going on. Watch less TV, talk more and read more.

          A burning tear of a Russian businessman? It’s you who’s right - as you talk, everyone’s feeling bad now, everyone is crying, everyone is on the verge of bankruptcy, and you’ll start asking questions on the topic, so it turns out that they need workers to work around the clock otherwise they don’t have time ...
        2. forester
          forester 14 February 2018 11: 48
          +2
          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: forester
          Quote: lis-ik
          Even if everything is so rosy, I don’t see a reason for joy for the bulk of the population of the Russian Federation, just the oligarchs will become even “a little bit” richer, and specifically Russia will not have anything from this and will continue this way until the constitution item on mineral resources returns.

          You are rarely stupid - the development of the gas market in geyropa is new jobs for ordinary hard workers in Russia, and not only billions in the pocket of our rich, it is billions of rubles to the Russian budget, and if you do not have enough money, it’s only your merit - tear off your carcass from the couch and go work

          You are stupid, because your arguments are a set of stamps on the topic "Gazprom is Russia's wealth." You have not learned to look deeper. As for my money, I still have enough of it, but not thanks to it, but contrary to the state’s efforts to finish off small and medium-sized businesses, but this is not for long, so I secured myself and additionally work in an agricultural holding, where bankruptcy is also going on. Watch less TV, talk more and read more.

          I do not need to read, and even once - I work and earn
          1. sapporo1959
            sapporo1959 15 February 2018 01: 01
            +1
            What do you remind of our beloved prime minister? He loves the same thing, they say go to business and work. But if the city doesn’t work for large enterprises, and there are already enough businessmen, and there is no money to move, and conscience does not allow you to earn money with an hatchet and knife, well, here’s where to go under your brave call with Dima ...?
    4. LMN
      LMN 14 February 2018 09: 47
      +8
      Quote: lis-ik
      Even if everything is so rosy, I don’t see a reason for joy for the bulk of the population of the Russian Federation, just the oligarchs will become even “a little bit” richer, and specifically Russia will not have anything from this and will continue this way until the constitution item on mineral resources returns.


      For me, Russia will have and not a little.
      1) Russia hooked the European leader. The strongest European economy.
      2) The second follows from the first laughing Germany "turns away" from the USA. And all that binds them is, alas, all sorts of "ancient" treaties, like NATO recourse
      1. marline
        marline 14 February 2018 11: 31
        +3
        Quote: LMN
        2) The second follows from the first laughing Germany "turns away" from the USA. And all that binds them is, alas, all sorts of "ancient" treaties, like NATO recourse

        Do not forget about the American military bases in Germany.
        Anyway, this is just another stage of the economic war, which is still very far from victory.
        1. LMN
          LMN 14 February 2018 12: 50
          +4
          Quote: merlin
          Quote: LMN
          2) The second follows from the first laughing Germany "turns away" from the USA. And all that binds them is, alas, all sorts of "ancient" treaties, like NATO recourse

          Do not forget about the American military bases in Germany.
          Anyway, this is just another stage of the economic war, which is still very far from victory.


          I agree. Here these bases just confuse. As Germany, will solve this issue it is not clear.
          But judging by the latest events (I mean the stop of a truck with equipment from Poland), they really are right now, these USA are like a bone in the throat.
          1. marline
            marline 14 February 2018 15: 18
            0
            Quote: LMN
            But judging by the latest events (I mean the stop of a truck with equipment from Poland), they really are right now, these USA are like a bone in the throat.

            It’s natural, as Napoleon said, “feeding someone else’s army is more expensive.” Here is whether they have enough strength, desire and ability to overcome this situation.
            1. LMN
              LMN 14 February 2018 20: 23
              +4
              Quote: merlin
              Quote: LMN
              But judging by the latest events (I mean the stop of a truck with equipment from Poland), they really are right now, these USA are like a bone in the throat.

              It’s natural, as Napoleon said, “feeding someone else’s army is more expensive.” Here is whether they have enough strength, desire and ability to overcome this situation.

              Well, once the decision is made, apparently it was miscalculating?
      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 14 February 2018 13: 11
        +2
        Quote: LMN
        1) Russia hooked the European leader. The strongest European economy.

        The strange thing is that only the hook is ... As I understand it, the one who sits on the hook fulfills the will of the owner of the hook.
        We are doing everything so that the one who sits on the hook is getting better and better. Yes, all his (the one on the hook) whims and requirements are fulfilled.
        Strange hook, some ... Strange ...
        1. LMN
          LMN 14 February 2018 13: 44
          +6
          Quote: BecmepH
          Quote: LMN
          1) Russia hooked the European leader. The strongest European economy.

          The strange thing is that only the hook is ... As I understand it, the one who sits on the hook fulfills the will of the owner of the hook.
          We are doing everything so that the one who sits on the hook is getting better and better. Yes, all his (the one on the hook) whims and requirements are fulfilled.
          Strange hook, some ... Strange ...


          Well, the first thing that comes to mind is the question of sanctions. Or rather, that Germany is openly opposing. It’s not just opposing, but actually continuing to do business with us. The gas pipeline has not yet been built, and we already have a “lobby” represented by the main European player.

          Quietly, with the help of Germany we’ll “squeeze” the rest of Europe
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 14 February 2018 14: 41
            0
            Quote: LMN
            Germany openly opposes.

            He opposes, but does not refuse. It's funny ...
            1. LMN
              LMN 14 February 2018 15: 00
              +6
              Quote: BecmepH
              Quote: LMN
              Germany openly opposes.

              He opposes, but does not refuse. It's funny ...

              Well, how does it not refuse ?! Are pipes for the Nord Stream not produced in Germany, for example?
              And the very fact of a “political” decision, doesn’t this mean anything ?!
              In my opinion, this decision is the very “refusal.” And all kinds of prohibitions on “irons, spare parts, etc.” are just “politics” and chatter, which Russia, I apologize, put down from a large bell tower.
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 14 February 2018 16: 29
          +1
          And open your eyes? Let's remember the same “turbine days” - as the team “Siemens” proceeded on feces, how he beat himself with the heel in the chest, and how he went to the courts (even in Russian lol ) filed. Well, I did EVERYTHING, but I couldn’t do it with grief - I entered into a bunch of new contracts, closed several factories around the World and cut about 4000 workers, butoooo - in Russia I opened (hired workers) a new factory. belay repeat
      3. Sergeant71
        Sergeant71 14 February 2018 14: 41
        +1
        "Ancient treaties, like NATO," outweigh the rest. Especially when the US bases are on your territory, and Germany itself is one of the countries that proposed to impose sanctions against us and was not at all going to lift them. So it’s too early to declare help.
        1. LMN
          LMN 14 February 2018 15: 05
          +4
          Quote: Sergeant71
          "Ancient treaties, like NATO," outweigh the rest. Especially when the US bases are on your territory, and Germany itself is one of the countries that proposed to impose sanctions against us and was not at all going to lift them. So it’s too early to declare help.

          Of course it’s early. Everything is just beginning. I’m kind of “don’t throw up bonnets” laughing

          But the principle path has been chosen. Germany is tied to Russia. And this is a fact. And the United States also understands this.
          Let's see how Germany will resolve this in the future.


          By the way .. is there a way out of NATO in principle?
      4. gorenina91
        gorenina91 14 February 2018 18: 54
        0
        - Russia didn’t put anyone on a hook ... -Germany depended on the USA ... -and continues to depend ... -All Europe in American bases ... -And now Poland also “looks after” Germany .. . -At now Americans are trying to shift that "part of their trust" ... which used to extend entirely to Germany alone ... -that is why the Poles today "lift their nose" before everyone ... -Poland is even ready to place nuclear on its territory weapons ... -you would please the Americans ...
        -Yes, and not everything is clear with this “stream-2” ... -Push the USA properly on Germany and ... and it will backtrack ...
    5. Mazandaran
      Mazandaran 14 February 2018 13: 05
      0
      Can I ask one QUESTION? Why is the main thing for you not Joy but sorrow? You probably read the article poorly!? They clearly describe how the restoration process is going on .... I would be 100% Two-Handed so that the mass of population in Russia she lived well, but it’s not Russia’s fault that she has to fight against external Enemies! Indeed, since 2004, life in Russia has gone upward, but .... alas, Enemies have done their job ...!
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 14 February 2018 14: 45
        0
        Quote: MAZANDARAN
        it’s not Russia’s fault that it has to fight external Enemies!

        The internal enemy must be fought. That's who the real ENEMY is.
        1. marline
          marline 14 February 2018 15: 08
          0
          Quote: BecmepH
          Quote: MAZANDARAN
          it’s not Russia’s fault that it has to fight external Enemies!

          The internal enemy must be fought. That's who the real ENEMY is.

          The State Department was very happy with your comment! Keep it up!!!
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 15 February 2018 05: 45
            0
            Quote: merlin
            The State Department was very happy with your comment! Keep it up!!!

            What nonsense. Our external enemy is therefore strong because he has allies within us. Soak the internal enemy - leave the external enemy without fuel. Yes, and the external enemy through our internal poison lets us.
            1. marline
              marline 15 February 2018 08: 40
              0
              Quote: BecmepH
              Our external enemy is therefore strong because he has allies within us.

              I even guess who wink
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 15 February 2018 11: 47
                0
                Quote: merlin
                I even guess who

                And I’m fighting for your worthless guesses and hints. Nothing to say here and trying to offend))) Push further)))
                1. marline
                  marline 15 February 2018 11: 56
                  0
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  Nothing to say here and trying to offend)))

                  Leave your fantasies to yourself
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 14 February 2018 16: 33
        +3
        You are not quite right - here we have more than “our own” corruption, and to fight and destroy this is OUR business. And how much “better” for the ordinary population of Russia will be if you get rid of it -yy “not in a fairy tale to say, not to describe with a pen. YES what to go far - ROADS that Americans do the same to us badly? fool Smart people correctly say - Do you want to live better, do not emigrate to where you have been put in order, but - sweep the floor, take away the trash, fix everything in your house, sew the torn buttons, learn what you did not know how to work better! good It is necessary - not to want a better world, but - to make it better.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 February 2018 07: 09
    +12
    Good news. Stronger than Gazprom’s position - more money in the budget. Pensions, medicine, roads.
    And there is no need to "poke evil."
    1. Vard
      Vard 14 February 2018 07: 20
      +4
      Well, unfortunately, everyone except us is preying on our gas ... This can be clearly seen at the price of Gazprom shares ...
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 February 2018 07: 09
    +8
    And what will the people actually have? What do ordinary people have? The answer is NOTHING!
    1. LMN
      LMN 14 February 2018 11: 28
      +4
      Quote: aszzz888
      And what will the people actually have? What do ordinary people have? The answer is NOTHING!

      The people will sleep peacefully, including
    2. marline
      marline 14 February 2018 11: 32
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      And what will the people actually have? What do ordinary people have? The answer is NOTHING!

      And what did the people have from this before? What did ordinary Soviet people have from the construction of gas pipelines?
      1. rice
        rice 14 February 2018 18: 37
        +2
        Quote: merlin
        What did ordinary Soviet people have from the construction of gas pipelines?

        Like what? what A feeling of "deep inner satisfaction" for gratuitous help to the "fraternal" peoples smile
        1. marline
          marline 15 February 2018 08: 41
          +1
          Quote: Rice
          Quote: merlin
          What did ordinary Soviet people have from the construction of gas pipelines?

          Like what? what A feeling of "deep inner satisfaction" for gratuitous help to the "fraternal" peoples smile

          If only so.
        2. serriy
          serriy 18 February 2018 12: 23
          0
          In addition to the "pluses" add my "3 pennies."
          Nobody writes, they try not to notice that Gazprom has debts (loans) of many tens of billions of dollars. And it is very difficult to pay debts to him (net profit is small), by the way, and because by law you can’t but pay dividends! If you look at the profits and loans of the company - he is in debt for many tens (!!!) years. Question - to whom will the debts remain? negative negative

          And yet - Gazprom is all overgrown with pipelines, it could have taken care of laying technologies itself, but these pipes are laid overseas by foreign companies. fool fool
          And further - who except our country is so briskly drawn into laying pipes !? NONE!!! DEAR PLEASURE, NO ONE WANTS FOR DECADES TO TYPE HIMSELF WITH DELIVERY TO PIPES !!!
          negative negative
          And further!!! Notice! Buyers don’t want to buy gas so much as GAZPROM GAS SELLS HIS OWN, YET ALSO IN ALL LARGE QUANTITIES !!! fool fool
    3. Berber
      Berber 14 February 2018 12: 55
      +3
      Do you need a kebab from GazProm every day or what, so that you feel what you have?
    4. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 15 February 2018 01: 12
      0
      Well, why not what? New football players will come from exotic countries, well, the modest Gazprom leaders can buy another yacht for a newer. But what about yachts there and we’ll also get a new Olympics, that we are rich and well-fed ... We must raise the country's prestige, but salary pensions who sees them, and the progressive world is watching competitions and championships ...
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 February 2018 07: 17
    +9
    ... but it also shows to all its neighbors and opponents that this decision is final and cannot be “appealed”.
    Therefore, neighbors periodically run to complain to the Americans. I hope Germany has the courage to defend its interests to the end.
  7. Elizar Zadunaysky
    Elizar Zadunaysky 14 February 2018 11: 49
    0
    the benefits are not divided at all, and in the modern world everything around the people has passed only into everything around Mine, there may still be something left — you don’t expect anything from the master’s shoulder, but you cut your balm on your heart
  8. Lesorub
    Lesorub 14 February 2018 14: 31
    +1
    This can put a big and fat point on the history of the gas confrontation between the USA and the USSR / Russia and the energy war for the redistribution of the European gas market

    Do not confuse the USSR and Russia, two different countries, and the distribution of Profit is different. Glad for the achievements of the Olegarchy in the foreign market! )
  9. toha124
    toha124 14 February 2018 14: 44
    +6
    I read the comments. Interesting. It seems that some comrades do not go to the clinic, their children do not go to school, they are basically not served by the police. Or on our site, all are treated only in paid clinics and teach offspring in private schools. Well, they don’t get any good from the country. And that’s it.

    Comrades, Gazprom pays taxes to the country. Moreover, he pays her dividends. All this goes to the budget. Gazprom has a bunch of social objects (FOKi, for example). And given the small companies that feed on Gazprom ... In general, it is not perfect, our gas monopoly. But...
    1. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper 14 February 2018 15: 31
      +3
      Gazprom's task is to smuggle the HIGHWAY. But do not bring a tube to each individual house in Uryupinsk. Particularly zealous - shake the local authorities, Gazprom is not an assistant here.
    2. GAF
      GAF 14 February 2018 17: 00
      +1
      Quote: toha124
      I read the comments. Interesting. It seems that some comrades do not go to the clinic, their children do not go to school ..... Well, they do not receive benefits from the country. And that’s it.

      Melancholy sofas. The population of Russia has never had such material wealth and freedom of access to them as it is now. It is necessary to work, and not to share the revenues of the State Campaigns. From the point of view of geopolitics, it would be nice to have the Berlin-Moscow-Beijing axis on the continent. Twice on a large scale they pushed their foreheads against Russia and Germany, which had no fundamental reasons for this ... This is precisely the topic of discussion at the HE, and not howling howls all is bad.
  10. Vadim Sh.
    Vadim Sh. 14 February 2018 16: 09
    +1
    And it pleases, but pleases that the next intrigue of the Tan against Russia collapsed
  11. ivanov-35
    ivanov-35 14 February 2018 17: 45
    +1
    If so, it is difficult to overestimate the importance of this event. I will not list all the advantages that Russia will receive from this in the near future. How disgusting to read some comments of those who do not understand the significance of this event.
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 15 February 2018 01: 14
      0
      Is it possible to cook a new wallet already? Wow You intrigued me right already ...
  12. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 15 February 2018 13: 58
    0
    119 r for 1 cube, Blagoveshchensk, Amurka am
    A gas pipeline to China is literally being built in the suburbs ...
  13. powermic
    powermic 17 February 2018 01: 51
    0
    Selling natural resources abroad is not necessary. For starters, it would be nice to gasify Russia itself, and then 66% officially, in fact less - this is not very cool.
  14. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 18 February 2018 10: 55
    0
    The Anglo-Saxons all their existence fought against the union of Germany and Russia, and here you are! For that fought for it and ran