Russia's Olympic response

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The doping scandal around Russia, promoted by the IOC, Vladimir Putin, who is more than an informed person, called the special operation “orchestrated” by our Western “colleagues”, but then what could be the aim of its directors? Why, after the disqualification of the Olympic Committee of Russia, did not they completely remove all Russian athletes from the Olympics in South Korea? By the way, WADA, a number of sports inquisitors and fake world media, insisted on this, who still insist that "Russia should not have been at this Olympiad"?

In this case, Russia had no choice but to hold alternative Goodwill Games in Sochi, moreover, it could do it simultaneously with the Olympics in South Korea, inviting all the disgruntled to it, and such people would certainly have found, no matter how many.



This answer suggested itself and was uttered in Russia at high levels. This would be a clear split of the international sports movement, and this is due to the IOC’s fault, and with unpredictable consequences for the same IOC: Games in South Korea and Sochi would still be compared.

Therefore, the IOC, or rather, its directors, allowed “pure” athletes from Russia to the Olympics, this is a necessary measure, but they were invited on humiliating conditions: without a flag, a hymn, under the supervision of doping holders, provoking Russia to a boycott of the Olympics. Although, we note, they insult the IOC itself with this sadism, after which its reputation can be destroyed after the Games under the flag of the Arbitration Sport Court (CAS) that acquitted Russia.

In general, CAS has set the IOC and its directors under a terrible blow to Russia: now Moscow can accuse the IOC and the whole West of a big lie about the allegedly “independent court”, “purity of sport”, the notorious “presumption of innocence” and corruption, in view of the obvious political bias even In sports. But after the end of the Olympics, the main violin in this should not be played by Vladimir Putin, but by the Russian media and runet.

With sadistic humiliations, the IOC directors really wanted to provoke Russia into a boycott of the Olympics, and such voices were heard in Russia, even on the leading Russian channels Nikita Isaevy shouted in blind rage and hurried to get into this trap. After the declaration of a boycott, any decision of the CAS court would not matter today, and in general, going to court would be meaningless. But the IOC directors at the expense of our super-patriots failed to take Russia "weakly".

A boycott of the Olympics would turn everything into a scandal with very unfavorable consequences for Russia. The Olympics in South Korea would have passed without Russia and without a hitch for the IOC and WADA. A completely different turn is obtained with the participation of Russia in the Olympics, even without a flag and a hymn: a fronde begins to take shape against the IOC already at the Olympics! Viewers welcome Russia more than many other countries! Thus, having arrived at the Olympics, Russia has created for itself opportunities for serious counterplay against the IOC. This whole situation was easily calculated, so immediately both Putin and most thinking politicians, including even Gennady Zyuganov, said that they needed to go to the Olympics, and not use the word “boycott” at all.

The boycott of the Olympiad could have another extremely negative consequence, which our Mokov offenders had in mind: it could lead to a split from within Russian sport. Who among the athletes would have gone to the Olympics, they would have been greeted and treated as dissidents who chose "pure sport", as the "idiot Rodchenkov" cares about today. No matter how many such athletes there would be, it would still be a split in our sports movement, in which the IOC and the West would have grasped with all their strength and capabilities.

But Russia went to the Olympics, although it was offended, but did not recognize the accusations, so it was still proud, and the humiliators, therefore, themselves found themselves in the plight of hypocrites, persecutors, sadists. Therefore, the sports fronde against the IOC, WADA and the entire sports West with its doping “therapeutic exceptions” is already taking shape.

After all, many of our athletes did not believe until the last moment that they would not be allowed to be completely “clean”, they were preparing skis and skates, and now they finally understood everything. Those of our athletes who still wanted to play at the Olympics, and who were admitted, will perform, and will feel not theoretically, but almost all the "purity" of the IOC and WADA. It turns out that the IOC directors themselves rallied all Russian athletes against themselves, and this is very important.

Now for Russia it does not matter how the Games end in South Korea, the medal credit is not important - in such conditions the main participation. Games are becoming more important for athletes who are not admitted to the Olympics, which will be held in Russia after the Olympics, to which foreign athletes will be invited. The decision on this has already been taken, Vladimir Putin on camera gave instructions to the government about their preparation. Probably, these Games will be held in Sochi, and they, in fact, will still become alternative to the Olympics.

As soon as the Games in South Korea are completed, the counterplay of Russia will begin. It is clear that the official statement about the Games in Russia will be made by Moscow after the Olympics: revenge is better obtained in a cold state, on a cold head. And in order not to give grounds for provocations to IOC directors at the ongoing Olympics, by the way, their likelihood, with Russia announcing that they are hosting their Games, is reduced. What could be this counterplay?

Considering that the IOC is trying to split the Russian sport, it is necessary to rely on the decisive split of the IOC, that is, to make alternative Games as representative as possible, to act uncompromisingly, understanding that the Olympic war with the IOC directors will continue anyway. However, it is necessary to wage this war, like the IOC, without formally declaring it, just for the sake of cleanliness and development of international sport.

In order to have more international competitions, good and different, also once every four years, nobody has a patent for this. There will be some partners with Russia; you can count on China, Iran, India, many countries in Latin America, in general, on all the BRICS, SCO and CSTO countries.

With this answer, two variants of the development of events are viewed. 1. A split of international sports and the approval of two alternative international sports structures. At the same time, Russia and other countries can simultaneously enter into different international structures, that is, Russia can maintain membership even in an unfriendly IOC, but always having the opportunity to go to an alternative platform, like other countries dissatisfied with the IOC. This will create strong prerequisites for reforming the IOC. Similarly, parallel Western financial structures are now being created in the world, with Western countries participating in both structures, except, it seems, the United States.

2. Reform of the IOC and WADA with a complete change of the current leadership for the dirty game of doping, "therapeutic exclusion" and political corruption.

This is how our Olympic counterplay is viewed, otherwise in four years everything will be repeated from the beginning. In the current situation, Russia should go to the IOC split, but, we note, we did not start it ...
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  1. +30
    14 February 2018 06: 12
    Very sorry and insulting, but this is all an illusion. We will not answer anyone. We have already caved in on this "front." We are waiting for the West to come up against it. And we will continue to "endure hardships and hardships ..."
    1. +6
      14 February 2018 06: 46
      We yes ... But against Norway, for example, a front is already forming ... And it was the doping scandal in Russia that started ... It seems that the Ageev stables of world sports will be cleaned ...
      1. +2
        14 February 2018 08: 14
        Well, yes, if only someone will speak. They will clean them out ..
        Quote: Vard
        We yes ... But against Norway, for example, a front is already forming ... And it was the doping scandal in Russia that started ... It seems that the Ageev stables of world sports will be cleaned ...
        1. +29
          14 February 2018 08: 35
          The whole article is about, let's say, gritting teeth to withstand attacks and insults, because otherwise we will be even worse! And so, even though the IOC will not feel comfortable!
          But where did you get it, Viktor Kamenev, that the IOC is uncomfortable with the current situation of humiliated Russia? After all, this is exactly what the IOC was seeking. And what would be the tragedy if Russia discounted the Olympic Games by its absence? This was already done easily by the USSR and the USA ... And nothing! The USSR has always been ahead of the rest!
          The tragedy of a country humiliated to see, and nothing tragic in the event of a bycot before the Olympics led by the IOC would not have happened.
          1. 0
            14 February 2018 08: 47
            I propose to rename the Olympic Games (OI) in Pimdofzkia Dermactar AntiRussian Team Games (the abbreviation is probably seen corresponding). In this case, everything falls into place: we were not allowed to see them, and we ourselves cannot take part in such anti-Russian team games.
          2. +4
            14 February 2018 11: 27
            Quote: Stas157
            The tragedy of a country humiliated to see, and nothing tragic in the event of a bycot before the Olympics led by the IOC would not have happened.

            There was no question of a boycott. How can a country not admitted to the Olympiad declare a boycott? She is not there anyway. Individual, neutral athletes from the country of residence of Russia were invited. That’s exactly the decision behind them was whether to go or not. This is the personal position of each athlete.
            1. +11
              14 February 2018 12: 16
              Quote: freddyk
              This is the personal position of each athlete.

              Putin has declared an official position - to go. Even if Putin were against it, there would probably be those who would go. But, national teams can not go on the personal initiative of each athlete. I think in vain that the hockey team went to the Olympics. And it is unlikely that she will succeed at this Olympics.
              1. +3
                14 February 2018 12: 23
                Quote: Stas157
                Putin has declared an official position - to go


                No, Putin announced his personal position and gave free rein to everyone. But the media presented this as an official position. How, if CAM thinks so, then it means so. And the athletes, in the vast majority, were only happy about this.
              2. 0
                14 February 2018 22: 29
                Quote: Stas157
                I think in vain that the hockey team went to the Olympics. And it is unlikely that she will succeed at this Olympics.

                I think so too! Let the skater girls and curlers go, but hockey .... fu ... today they played in the empty stands. I watched them for no more than 5 minutes and that was enough.
            2. +2
              14 February 2018 20: 04
              Why all these intricacies, describe in the article, if if an unambiguous conclusion is made by the author himself:
              "... 1. The split of international sports and the approval of two alternative sports international structures. At the same time, Russia and other countries can simultaneously enter different international structures, that is, Russia can maintain membership even in an unfriendly IOC, but at the same time always having the opportunity to leave for an alternative site, like other dissatisfied IOC countries. This will create strong prerequisites for the reform of the IOC.
              2.IOC Reform and WADA with a complete change of current leadership for the dirty game with doping, "therapeutic exceptions" and political corruption. "

              This is more like "no options."
              Well, and so what is our benefit now? "A good mine with a bad game"?
          3. +11
            14 February 2018 12: 33
            Quote: Stas157
            The tragedy of a country humiliated to see, and nothing tragic in the event of a bycot before the Olympics led by the IOC would not have happened.

            And here the “ears” of the 2018 World Cup look out). What will happen if all the beloved “partners” in response announce a boycott of the World Cup in Russia?) This is how many future babos are in the sand !? No, it’s better to “trample” in Pyongyang than lose income from the World Cup. It’s not for you to grow and develop yard teams, it’s a business!) And a business involves nothing “personal”. I won’t be surprised if we will play at the World Cup without a flag or anthem. Progress towards this. At our entrance to the city, the "signboard" was "renewed" - instead of the Order of Lenin and the Order of the Patriotic War of the XNUMXst degree, it now stands out: "Rostov-on-Don is a city of military glory." For some reason, there was no place on the new sign for the orders. Probably, not to embarrass our Soviet past, our "dear" foreign guests. So the "plywood of the Mausoleum" continues its triumphant march).
            What did our Guarantor say there: "The history of our country needs to be honored and remembered"?)))
            1. +11
              14 February 2018 15: 01
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              And here the “ears” of the 2018 World Cup look out). What will happen if all the beloved “partners” in response announce a boycott of the World Cup in Russia?) This is how many future babos are in the sand !? No, it’s better to “trample” in Pyongyang than lose income from the World Cup. This is not a yard team to grow and develop, this is business.

              Yes, FM18 is a very specific business. But this is not about profit from the sale of tickets, advertising, souvenirs, hotel rooms and services. Hardly the money spent on it can be repelled with profit. We are talking about profits of a different kind, namely, profits from the development of budgetary funds by all interested characters. This is the bonanza for the captains of our neo-feudal economy. The most gold veins for kickbacks to officials and the gray box office of contractors are stadiums, roads, real estate transactions, etc. everything that we love and how we love. According to the plan, everyone should be scalded: Putin, with the laurels and telefanfares of the mastermind and organizer of the "best championship of all time", officials and contractors with "effectively mastered" budgetary billions. Even to the population. some which will fall into the form of an updated infrastructure. The only trouble is that these most mastered means are absolutely inadequate even from the point of view of common sense. Here take our stadium in Koenig. These guys have been looking for a place for a long time where you can just drown the money, and drown it safely. So that even the Accounting Chamber waved a hand at this hopeless case. And still found. In the most disastrous place of our land and so abundant in swamps - in the bend between the arms of Pregel. There even Germans, experts in land reclamation and hydraulic structures, built nothing but sheds, considering this a hopeless affair. But these are not Putin's eagles, for there are no unsolvable tasks before them. First, a dam was dug in the swamp for access roads. and then they began to thump sand there, hammer in piles and pour concrete. What will happen to this Cheops pyramid of a year or so in three? The question is more of a rhetorical one ... Although, I don’t know what I did not spend for organizers of the holiday of Selm’s life, where this stadium would be more appropriate. Although in this case, the word is appropriate with a stretch of mind for the local FC Baltika (from which the authors of the famous comedy series wrote off the image of the Omsk Gazmyas), a hopeless outsider of the second league that nothing can help. Even the sponsorship of the wealthy Rosatom. But there is a developing residential area, infrastructure, proximity to the airport. In general, the holiday of life was a success.
              1. +1
                14 February 2018 22: 36
                Quote: romey
                from which the authors of the famous comedy series wrote off the image of the Omsk "Gazmyasa"),

                Here it is not necessary la la !!! Omsk has its own Gas-Meats !!! Even t-shirts and caps are sold on every corner !!! Do not cling to someone else's glory !!!! (although ... we have all the football one solid team "Gas-Meats").
          4. +2
            14 February 2018 16: 18
            I thought that if Zyuganov understands ... but there is a dumber even Zyuganov.
            1. +10
              14 February 2018 17: 30
              Victor Kamenev Today, 16:18 ↑
              I thought that if Zyuganov understands ... but there is a dumber even Zyuganov.
              And where did you get the idea that the "smart" are only those who share your point of view?
              I personally thought and believe that what you set out in the article is nothing more than your vision of the situation and your Wishlist in terms of bending the IOC and others. There will be no bending; there will be another bending of Russia by the IOC.
              The only way I could really bend the IOC was to hit my pocket, but this was a refusal to pay contributions to the IOC, a refusal to show the Olympiad on TV, and a refusal to advertise the sponsors of the Olympiad.
              Moreover, it was necessary to organize an open persecution of all these nikes, riboks, Coca-Cola and other rubbish.
              P.S. I don’t have time to finish it, I’ll add it later.
              1. +9
                14 February 2018 21: 49
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                Really bending the IOC could only be hit in the pocket,

              2. 0
                16 February 2018 09: 58
                Moreover, it was necessary to organize an open persecution of all these nikes, riboks, Coca-Cola and other rubbish.

                Did you manage to consult with everyone? Or are you the ultimate truth?
                These are the ones you will bring to the new civil in the Russian Federation. For we infringe on the rights.
          5. +1
            15 February 2018 18: 00
            I wrote a detailed commentary on this note, but there was some kind of failure. The second time I’ll not master it, so I’ll be brief - I still need to look for a more moronic article for suckers. It does not stand up to criticism, and for each sentence I would like to ask a tricky question and poke the author into facts. Although, basically, the author impresses me, and I share his point of view on most issues.
            What kind of sport split can one talk about when the whole of Russian society is split? Worse already - only war!
            1. +1
              16 February 2018 10: 04
              when the whole of Russian society is split

              Turn around and see how at least half of the local inhabitants, for the principled position of the athletes, were branded with homeless people. And that means everyone else who does not carry only external attributes - and the little green men, and intelligence, and engineers, etc.

              These are already contributing to the collapse of society. Do not respect the rest.

              Others demand a ban on "western goods." And personally, I like to wear / wear / use what is comfortable for me and does not harm the people around me:
              - intel processor
              - nike sneakers
              - sony phones
              - canon cameras
              - bmw cars

              and I’m not doing anything wrong with this, on the contrary, I pay hoo taxes for the Bavarian. But a number of individuals believe that "this is not the place." Bravo! We are heading for a civil war in the Russian Federation!
          6. 0
            19 February 2018 06: 44
            And what will the proposed “boycott” offer? From him, the situation will not change in anything, and Russia will look like a “resentful child”. And participation in the Olympic Games and the holding (later) of alternative competitions, on the contrary, will give us the status of “undeservedly persecuted” (and usually there are enough supporters on their side) and will make it possible to prosecute those who started everything ... hi
            PS The principle of aikido: "Turn the enemy’s action (strength) against him" (C) ...
    2. 0
      14 February 2018 06: 55
      Quote: BecmepH
      Very sorry and insulting, but this is all an illusion. We will not answer anyone. We have already caved in on this "front." We are waiting for the West to come up against it. And we will continue to "endure hardships and hardships ..."


      I agree.

      But at the same time, the impression remains that we, as before 41, are preparing for the invasion, and that we do not have enough time, effort and money.

      But the invasion has already begun! And for a long time - in the minds of our fellow citizens.

      But the active phase before 24 years is hardly planned.

      And we have time to fix our minds.

      First of all, officials and their minions.

      Well, of course, the ECONOMY!

      HERE WITHOUT REBUILDED MINDS THIS WILL NOT BE GOT!
    3. +4
      14 February 2018 08: 13
      Faberge is not iron ... And you need to go on business trips, at a presentation there and here for a state account. Of course, nothing will happen.
      Quote: BecmepH
      Very sorry and insulting, but this is all an illusion. We will not answer anyone. We have already caved in on this "front." We are waiting for the West to come up against it. And we will continue to "endure hardships and hardships ..."
    4. +2
      14 February 2018 08: 34
      Goodwill games, you say? And imagine what a penny they flew to us! And the social camp was ready to take a visor. I remember polished furniture was in short supply, so it was already dismantled and taken from all over the country to Moscow for paneling in hotels for foreign tourists. But even then we didn’t prove anything to anyone. If "high sport" is a business, then businessmen, and not the state, should deal with it. The Ministry of Sports is generally nonsense in a liberal economy! belay
      1. +14
        14 February 2018 09: 49
        Vladimir Putin, a more than knowledgeable person, dubbed the IOC’s doping scandal around Russia, called the special operation “staged” by our Western “colleagues”
        why did the "informed person" oversleep the situation?
      2. +1
        14 February 2018 21: 52
        Quote: siberalt
        Goodwill games, you say? And imagine what a penny they flew to us! And the social camp was ready to take a visor.

        To date, only Belarus can come to such competitions, and even that is under the "?". So the competition will be in the form of a "brawl"
    5. +1
      14 February 2018 20: 36
      The first one went.
    6. 0
      14 February 2018 22: 49
      A very clever person explained everything. So there it is ... what what what
    7. +1
      18 February 2018 06: 49
      Nagging again. How tired you are of whiners.
    8. 0
      19 February 2018 06: 33
      And who are we? Do not judge everyone by yourself ... hi
  2. +8
    14 February 2018 07: 13
    Quote: BecmepH
    Very sorry and insulting, but this is all an illusion. We will not answer anyone. We have already caved in on this "front." We are waiting for the West to come up against it. And we will continue to "endure hardships and hardships ..."

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    I don’t watch the Olympics, but I read all the articles and discussions around it. Of course, all this is sad that it happened. But the IOC itself digs a hole in which it will fail. Spectator interest in Pyeongchang is one and a half times lower than in Sochi. Fictitious suspensions and non-invitations also weaken interest in this pseudo-sports fight. By the way, the network offers to boycott Coca-Cola drinks as the General Sponsor of the Games.
    1. +6
      14 February 2018 09: 55
      Quote: Altona
      I do not watch the Olympics

      and I look ... curling ... when Bryzgalova. the stone rolls ... good! feel and that's it!
      I don’t look at the rest ...
    2. +2
      14 February 2018 15: 33
      Quote: Altona
      I don’t watch the Olympics, but I read all the articles and discussions around it.

      Our media are hysterical:
      "Only 2018 million Russians watched the opening of the 5 Olympics in Pyongyang!"
    3. +1
      14 February 2018 21: 58
      Quote: Altona
      But the IOC itself digs a hole in which it will fail. Spectator interest in Pyeongchang is one and a half times lower than in Sochi.

      this is not critical! OK is guided by other motives. The drop in the number of people who watched the Olympics in the Russian Federation is of little concern to them. The main thing is that the rest of the world and contracts are watching accordingly. You think. that OK did not predict this?
      1. 0
        19 February 2018 06: 56
        Still worrying. Especially future courts ... laughing
        PS You greatly exaggerate the mental abilities of the members of the IOC and WADA. This should be more realistic ... laughing
    4. +1
      15 February 2018 18: 06
      Quote: Altona
      Coca-Cola drinks

      only mentally defective creatures can consume! Another explanation for the pouring of such poison into your body simply cannot exist for very objective reasons.
      1. 0
        19 February 2018 06: 58
        "Coca-Cola" (and "Pepsi") in some cases well replaces the domestic "solvent" ... laughing
  3. +6
    14 February 2018 07: 22
    And another feature for the IOC. This sharaga is in a big minus. According to media reports, more than 100 million. And after the end of OI, the debt hole will grow even more. There he is dear. angry
    1. 0
      19 February 2018 07: 00
      So we need to provide them with additional “help” in this matter. Put millions in lawsuits in courts
      for the illegal violation of the rights of athletes ... wink
  4. +2
    14 February 2018 07: 35
    The scenarios proposed by the author are of course good, but today they are still not real because It’s one thing to count on “China, Iran, India, many countries of Latin America, in general, on all the BRICS, SCO and CSTO countries,” and it’s another thing how it can happen in reality.
    1. 0
      19 February 2018 07: 01
      "It is impossible to discuss the taste of black caviar without tasting it" (C) ... laughing
  5. +12
    14 February 2018 07: 45
    The author forgets the simple truth - "They don’t wave their fists after the fight!" Interest in the Olympics, after its end, will disappear. And all the movements of Russia, if they are, the world media will be silent or not notice.
    1. +18
      14 February 2018 07: 49
      Quote: alma
      will be silent or not notice.

      And all our gestures will look like a muzzle in your pocket! what
      1. +10
        14 February 2018 15: 55
        We’ll rest for a month and take up the World Cup, then we definitely shouldn’t go anywhere.
  6. +19
    14 February 2018 07: 54
    Cons were banned, so the author is minus.
  7. +3
    14 February 2018 07: 55
    The decision to participate in the Olympic Games is probably due to the upcoming World Cup. They invested so much money into the sports infrastructure, which should be at least a little beat off. Stadiums were built for future generations. But it’s not a fact that the championship ** ** s will be ignored ...
    1. +9
      14 February 2018 08: 34
      They have already launched a trial balloon that the World Cup will be in Russia, BUT WITHOUT Russia!
      The punishment for doping in Sochi! crying
      1. +5
        14 February 2018 09: 41
        and ban Russian flags in Russia, so that it would be completely ridiculous! lol the kindest! hi
        1. +9
          14 February 2018 09: 47
          Quote: novel xnumx
          ban Russian flags in Russia
          hi
          And speak Russian!
          1. +4
            14 February 2018 09: 49
            and so that not a single bear in the stands and Russian vodka is called
            1. +4
              14 February 2018 11: 51
              All samovars to the scrap, balalaika for scrapping! belay
        2. +1
          15 February 2018 06: 17
          But what is trifling - let Russia simply be "banned." and we’ll laugh about it fool and then "let's go get the arguments and arguments on the liver and kidneys." am
      2. 0
        19 February 2018 07: 03
        FIFA is not subordinate to either the IOC or WADA. And therefore already “put a bolt” on all their claims in relation to the 2018 World Cup ... wink
  8. +7
    14 February 2018 07: 59
    It must be said bluntly, the situation was elementarily spoiled by those who were obliged to deal with the issue by post. There was a time. The possibilities have not changed. It makes no sense to be offended; they carry water to offended ones.
    But it would be foolish and naive to believe that the Russian leadership did not use the smoke screen with a doping scandal and did not muddle their schemes.
    We look, Kim has changed rhetoric and is actively in contact with Seoul. And the unification of Korea is a terrible dream of the USA and Japan. The USA is losing its mandated territory with 13 place in the world in terms of GDP, Japan is generally nullified, and the sale of Euro-American weapons in SE. Asia is covered with a copper basin. This is a very, very accurate move, the very probability of which puts on the ears the stability of the modern world and reduces the influence of the West in it by an order of magnitude.
    Your will, sir, but it is worth a lot.
    For a better understanding of the topic https://aftershock.news/?q=node/609076
  9. +3
    14 February 2018 08: 12
    Quote: AlexS
    The decision to participate in the Olympic Games is probably due to the upcoming World Cup. They invested so much money into the sports infrastructure, which should be at least a little beat off.

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    Not only. They want to complete the Nord Stream-2 without escalating the situation.
  10. +7
    14 February 2018 08: 17
    I think that bureaucrats will not have enough spirit .. because everyone knew that after the Olympics in Sochi it would be serious ... but instead of bothering to prevent the consequences, the bureaucrats sat quietly and chewed on their snot ... and there was no need to make the Great Plan out of what happened "- this is a banal Russian" maybe ".
    1. 0
      19 February 2018 07: 06
      All of you are good with a "back mind". But you don’t know how to do anything and don’t want to ... laughing
  11. +11
    14 February 2018 08: 27
    Another article about the evil "ultrapatriots" who seem to be for us, but actually more harmful than the Americans and our wise leaders, who are playing a delicate game, which must necessarily end in complete victory and embarrassment of the enemy. I would like to believe in trembling (I’m not joking), but only one such clever game was played two years ago and ended with what it should have ended at the Korean Olympics. And M and M, who led her, do not look like smart professionals, but like complete losers who fell into their places by chance. After all that has happened, sorry author, but I do not believe you. And if, nevertheless, something positive happens with the position of our country in the Olympic movement, then certainly not because of the cunning moves of the above figures ...
  12. +5
    14 February 2018 08: 51
    I doubt any answer to Russia moku and others, so that they are worried. Yes, the authorities and Putin did not have the right to forbid athletes to go to the Olympics, this should have been their personal patriotic decision, but they chose a shame and got a war on top of it. Already, we can safely say that pure athletes went from Russia and without doping they could not show the outstanding results that they showed earlier, which means that earlier they were all doping.
  13. +2
    14 February 2018 09: 16
    Well, about this from the very beginning I talked about ...
  14. +7
    14 February 2018 09: 26
    Quote: XYZ
    After all that has happened, sorry author, but I do not believe you. And if, nevertheless, something positive happens with the position of our country in the Olympic movement, then certainly not because of the cunning moves of the above figures ...

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    In principle, two bright ideas are indicated in the article: 1) That quiet sabotage is better than a loud boycott. 2) Despite the prostitution of Mutko, Smirnov and Zhukov, the situation can still be twisted in the right direction if there is political will. But this will, as you correctly noted, has not yet been observed. And from the side of the self-nominee and the "main presidential candidate" by the way, too.
    1. +8
      14 February 2018 09: 44
      and the idea of ​​the indispensable mass filing in the courts of claims for compensation of losses (any) by our athletes has been missed - since they have recognized them innocent. moreover, it’s possible, even personal ones — besides mclaren, so that he chokes on the sublord!
    2. +3
      14 February 2018 09: 50
      You know, I wouldn’t be particularly attracted to Smirnov in this company. An elderly and probably not very healthy, but well-deserved man was, for very great need, thrown to rake a bunch of feces heaped by our Fuhrer from sports. It does not seem to me that he was very pleased with this request, but we had no professionals left at all, and the situation had to be somehow corrected and losses minimized. There were no good options.
  15. +11
    14 February 2018 10: 16
    I don’t understand why they say that our athletes are supposedly there? Where? I do not see the flag. and since there is no flag, there are no athletes.
    1. +6
      14 February 2018 22: 22
      Quote: unignm
      why they say that our athletes are supposedly there? Where? I do not see the flag. and since there is no flag, there are no athletes.

      Damn it, I have only one question in connection with all this hype: what, did the Olympics start somewhere? request
  16. +1
    14 February 2018 11: 06
    you need to rely on a decisive split of the IOC, that is, make alternative Games as representative as possible, act uncompromisingly,
    Does this mean kicking with ourselves or something? Or call for humiliation Iran? Large teams will not go - they will not add any other games to their tight calendar, especially taking into account the fact that for all athletes in the world, the Olympic Games remain the main games of planet Earth.
    1. 0
      19 February 2018 07: 09
      Poor you know their mentality. The decision (final) is made by the "prize money"! ... laughing
  17. +2
    14 February 2018 11: 18
    1. The split of international sports

    The issue of creating an alternative sports movement has been shyly discussed for several years.
    Special Representative of the President Abdulatipov proposed to revive the Spartakiad
    The question is not simple, but it would be healthy to organize and regularly conduct РRussian Оopen Сpartakiada.
  18. +2
    14 February 2018 11: 23
    In this case, Russia had no choice but to hold alternative Goodwill Games in Sochi, moreover, it could do it simultaneously with the Olympics in South Korea, inviting all the disgruntled to it, and such people would certainly have found, no matter how many.

    This answer suggested itself and was uttered in Russia at high levels. This would be a clear split of the international sports movement, and this is due to the IOC’s fault, and with unpredictable consequences for the same IOC: Games in South Korea and Sochi would still be compared.

    Football. World Cup holds GDP for Faberge. But when it passes .... I and IOC and WADA do not envy ... wink
  19. +9
    14 February 2018 11: 32
    As has been said many times, a chorus of voices will rise about the cunning plan and certain "benefits" that we kind of "won" by going to this shame. All this is completely and completely nonsense. The Olympic movement in its current form has practically exhausted itself. Previously, the Olympic medal was valued mainly due to the fact that all participating countries tried very hard to monitor the purity of the competition.
    Now all this is in the past. The Olympics are now the same bunch of crooks and showmen, like the rest of the sport. Actually, the concept of sport needs a radical revision, and soon it will have to be done. Against this background, the desperate efforts of not washing and skating to get into the Olympics cart very well characterizes our athletes, sports officials and commentators of various kinds, such as the author of the article.
    People feed on deceit. That's all. There is nothing left of the sport - scammers who arrange large-scale spectacles. No athletes, only actors. No competition, only an agreement, not between the actors, but between the sponsors. Sport?
    Ugh.
  20. +5
    14 February 2018 11: 36
    A boycott of the Olympics would turn everything into a scandal with very unfavorable consequences for Russia.

    just don’t need to start the old disc again about the next "tricky" plan
    1. 0
      14 February 2018 15: 57
      you just don’t need to start the old disc again about the next "tricky" plan

      And there is no cunning plan. A boycott at the state level entails an automatic removal from the Olympic Games for 4-6 years by the IOC. Nobody needs this.
      1. +5
        14 February 2018 16: 02
        boycott at the state level - yes, but who prevented a boycott from being organized at the level of the athletes themselves? They may have a lot of reasons for refusing a trip to games
        1. +7
          14 February 2018 16: 44
          Who prevented the organization of a boycott at the level of the athletes themselves?


          Maybe ask them? And at the same time at the first TV channel, which stubbornly shows them, calls to be proud and calls it "ours"?
          I would ask - "How will you look into the eyes of those estranged?" So their answer is probably ready - "We are for ourselves and for that guy." Ugh ...
          Each for himself is their motto. And there’s nothing to pickle here.

          And the olympiads - to voluntarily see sport in the “struggle” of lawyers in the courts? Dismiss
  21. +7
    14 February 2018 12: 16
    I would like to believe that the game with the IOC and WADA Olympics will not end, and the venality of these organizations will return to them, ruining them. But as long as these organizations are in the pocket of the United States and the Anglo-Saxons in general, they will function even if they are heavily indebted, as they are some kind of punitive structures in a sport that has already become politicized.
    The question of alternative games is certainly being discussed ... but how many world-class athletes will come to these Goodwill Games? What hockey is without Canadians or Americans, as well as without the Russian team, for example? Of course, IOC and Wada must somehow answer ... the question is how?
    I have already talked about our sports functionaries more than once — they had to be driven away from their posts by a filthy broom. It's too early to talk about a game with these organizations. Let's see what will happen after the Olympics and what steps will be taken by our legal organizations, as well as sports.
  22. 2ez
    +10
    14 February 2018 12: 34
    Yes, there is no Russia at the Olympics, how much can you procrastinate on this topic ?! RUSSIA HOW A COUNTRY IS REMOVED FROM PARTICIPATION IN OLYMPIADS! Officially!!! Dot. Everything else is the personal initiative of the athletes. And the IOC, which he wanted, invited him! Claims should be made / not put to those athletes who do not give a damn about the country and went for money. But the country does not have the right to reward them! NO COUNTRIES IN THE OLYMPIC MOVEMENT !!!
    1. 0
      19 February 2018 07: 13
      If you do not see something, then this does not mean at all that the phenomenon does not exist ... laughing
  23. +2
    14 February 2018 13: 44
    Reform of the IOC and WADA with a complete change of current leadership
    I’m afraid that from the change of terms, the amount will not change! IOC and WADA have already achieved their goal, and after them at least a flood.
  24. +2
    14 February 2018 13: 56
    Victor, do not trawl about the consequences of the boycott of the Olympics! They would boycott with the threat of withdrawal from the IOC and I assure you, we would invite all athletes on normal conditions! But this requires a clear president and power, but alas, this is not, only compradors are in power.
    1. +3
      14 February 2018 16: 02

      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Victor, do not trawl about the consequences of the boycott of the Olympics! They would boycott with the threat of withdrawal from the IOC and I assure you, we would invite all athletes on normal conditions! ...

      The fact of the matter is that the real consequences of the boycott can only be assumed, and even then very roughly. Supporters of our unconditional participation successfully blackmail the whole country with them. According to them, we fall into a long-term ban, and everything continues as before with our partners, with profitable contracts, high audience attention and record results. Nobody even notices our absence. Opponents argue that everything will be the other way around, that without the Russian Federation the games will quickly bend due to the lack of interest in them, predictability and, as a result, the departure of sponsors and financial collapse. And moreover, they argue that only with serious pressure and the threat of withdrawal, the IOC can even merge and back down. Well, which of them is right?
      1. 0
        15 February 2018 09: 54
        Dear XYZ! I propose to ignore the subjunctive mood in history, this of course is all from the evil one. But here the humiliation of Russia as a great power through humiliating conditions from the IOC is a fact!
        1. 0
          19 February 2018 07: 14
          Do you propose to adopt the "ostrich pose"? ... fool
          1. 0
            19 February 2018 09: 31
            wink A man who stands in the ostrich pose himself sees others in the same pose ...
  25. +1
    14 February 2018 14: 00
    Author, what are Goodwill Games? Author, give at least an approximate list of participants in these Games. Well, you still need to have at least some idea of ​​the issue before writing. What a split IOC. How will you stab?
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    1. +3
      14 February 2018 19: 41
      And what can Americans say that they have lost doping tests and ours cannot? What kind of double standards?))
  27. +1
    14 February 2018 16: 32
    If someone thinks that sport determines the country's policy, he is a complete idiot, sport in general and the 2018 World Cup in particular, are important as media events, but even a small war will write off all the sport, and all the World Cup and Olympics.
  28. +2
    14 February 2018 16: 56
    Who to watch and who is not is a matter of purely personal addiction. And the counteractions are committed by the rules of warfare. It doesn’t matter in what area it is conducted. Otherwise they will trample!
  29. +2
    14 February 2018 16: 59
    It’s not at all convincing, I don’t understand why Russia would be worse than now, in my opinion there is nowhere worse!
  30. 0
    14 February 2018 19: 13
    The idea is correct, but will it be done?
  31. +1
    14 February 2018 19: 33
    Author drink valerian and calm down)
    What a tricky game of government? Where does such infa come from, the author drinks with the Medvedev a wolf in the evenings?
    There will not be any answer, on the contrary it will only get worse ((
    According to the results of the games, the IOC will take away several medals under far-fetched pretexts, and in the Western press there will be an infa that they say look Russians can not do anything without doping ((
    And then the point was to go under the white flag ??
  32. +1
    14 February 2018 21: 23
    I was (and remain in principle) a supporter of the boycott of this Olympiad. But the arguments in the article are very convincing. Perhaps I was mistaken in my opinion, but emotionally I’m all the same for a boycott.
  33. +3
    14 February 2018 21: 34
    Interestingly, the author thought about how many ordinary citizens of Russia received less state funding to help them in the physical education movement, and which (funding) was given to hundreds of professional athletes to go to the Olympics, and thousands to other competitions? Do you want numbers? According to an article from TASS (http://tass.ru/sport/3744293):
    "The expenditures of the Russian budget for the implementation of the state program" Physical Culture and Sports "in 2017 will increase by 25 billion rubles compared to the current year and amount to 88,42 billion rubles."
    “In 2016, it is planned to spend 2020 million rubles less than in 2017 - 594,7 billion rubles, in 2016 - 7,74, for the implementation of the Federal target program“ Development of Physical Culture and Sports in the Russian Federation for 2018-6,5 ” , XNUMX billion rubles "(this is an article on the so-called mass sport).
    Compared 88,42 billion and 7,74 billion? Who do you think went over 80 billion? And to all sports functionaries, from construction contractors to professional athletes. And noticed how these sportsmen lack budget money? Do not hesitate to strain and remove 594,7 from mass sports.

    Although why am I. Just something for 500 rubles per citizen of Russia. Probably not a pity.
    1. +2
      14 February 2018 23: 59
      Quote: srha
      Although why am I. Just something for 500 rubles per citizen of Russia. Probably not a pity.

      so if for a good cause! And then, after all, Mutko and Zhukov and Co. are capitalizing them.
  34. +1
    14 February 2018 23: 46
    This is how our Olympic counterplay is seen, otherwise in four years everything will be repeated from the beginning
    Who will play? The article is another conversation in favor of the poor.
  35. +4
    15 February 2018 18: 50
    Just do not say that this is the next HPP. I made a decision for myself. For me, this Olympiad is not !!!
  36. 0
    16 February 2018 19: 08
    And he didn’t read, it’s so insulting for the country and for this shameful mumble.

    Is this an Olympic response, especially against the backdrop of success in Sochi? No - this is what the United States relied on. Ordinary people around the world, the same as we all, will not know the intricacies of the separation of our leaders from the Olympics, and the result is imprinted in consciousness. And certainly thoughts will come that such weaklings could not honestly SO win in Sochi. What naglosaksam required. Such are the sad conclusions I have. It is impossible to succumb in such situations; compromises are rarely successful. Our rapprochement with the West during Brezhnev ended in the assassination of the Union. Now it’s not much better, or rather, worse.
    And the matter is not in the athletes (although there are questions), in the authorities that allowed such a humiliation of the country and people. They themselves are not ashamed, these, under patriotic slogans, are killing the country.
    I think that in those who are not indifferent to the fate of the homeland, therefore, I urge you to visit this site:
    https://мой-президент.рф/news/vnimanie-18012018.h
    tml
    and vote, as the situation in the country requires, and most importantly, do it on March 18. Our choice is victory or death.
    The Cubans have survived, will we really be unworthy of our grandfathers?
    1. +2
      16 February 2018 21: 31
      And nostalgic:

      Ours acted there like that ... And we shared the first two places in the economy with the States. Although ours was the second, but the first was a matter of time if a fit of popular idiocy had not captured us.
  37. 0
    16 February 2018 22: 16
    In my opinion, only Koreans from both countries won in this Olympiad. As soon as they stopped srach, as befits the OI. Give them victory
  38. 0
    18 February 2018 00: 53
    Quote: BecmepH
    Very sorry and insulting, but this is all an illusion. We will not answer anyone. We have already caved in on this "front." We are waiting for the West to come up against it. And we will continue to "endure hardships and hardships ..."

    We will express concern for concern until they feel ashamed.
  39. 0
    19 February 2018 06: 38
    Quote: 210ox
    Well, yes, if only someone will speak. They will clean them out ..
    Quote: Vard
    We yes ... But against Norway, for example, a front is already forming ... And it was the doping scandal in Russia that started ... It seems that the Ageev stables of world sports will be cleaned ...

    "To be afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest!" (C) ... hi

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