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Polish Prime Minister put Bohdan Khmelnytsky in one row with Adolf Hitler

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Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Moravetsky speaking on stories of relations between Poles and Jews, he quoted Rabbi, who puts Bogdan Khmelnitsky on a par with Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler, reports RIA News.




According to Moravetsky, Poland never persecuted the Jews, creating good conditions for them to live through various privileges, but there were difficult moments in the history of relations between the two nations. Among them is “the Khmelnytsky uprising of the mid-seventeenth century, which, in Jewish historiography, is compared to the Holocaust,” he noted.

The prime minister quoted one of the rabbis, who allegedly during a recent conference in the Polish city of Torun put Khmelnitsky on a par with the Nazi leaders - Hitler and Himmler.

For our neighbors, Khmelnitsky is a national hero, and for us, the one who made the first chord in the death of the Commonwealth,
noted Moravetsky.

Bogdan Khmelnitsky - hetman of the Zaporozhian Army, the leader of the Cossack uprising, during which the Zaporizhian Sich, the Left Bank of the Dnieper and Kiev separated from the Commonwealth. In the 1654 year, under the Treaty of Pereyaslav, the ground troops entered the Russian state.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 13 February 2018 08: 59
    +14
    These good conditions were especially evident in the Warsaw ghetto.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 13 February 2018 09: 00
      +7
      And where will he put Pilsudski? belay
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 13 February 2018 09: 04
        +10
        Ukraine has gone, Poland get ready. For the fourth time.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 13 February 2018 09: 27
          +3
          Quote: Thrall
          Ukraine has gone, Poland get ready.

          Yeah. it smells like extras
        2. The black
          The black 13 February 2018 10: 08
          +7
          Blaming everyone and everything, the Poles are modestly silent about their crimes during both the first and second world wars.
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 13 February 2018 09: 26
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        And where will he put Pilsudski?

        intellectually it is necessary nearby. but nationalities in any country have their own logic. their liberators. strangers, natsik and fascists
    2. Sofa General
      Sofa General 13 February 2018 09: 10
      +6
      Can the Poles be reminded how they sent Jews to Nazi Germany? And the slaughter on the bridge staged? The Poles were the first to shoot, no matter how the Germans ...
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 13 February 2018 09: 11
      +4
      "For our neighbors, Khmelnitsky is a national hero, but for us, the one who made the first chord in the death of the Commonwealth,"
      You can’t argue here. For Russia, the Khmelnitsky "collector of Russian lands", and for Imperial Poland, the enemy broke away a large piece of the country
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 13 February 2018 09: 31
        +7
        Quote: Chertt
        For Russia Khmelnitsky "collector of Russian lands"

        belay Yes, he was never a "collector of land."
        From Ineta:

        "Ivan III Vasilievich - Collector of Russian land Ivan III Vasilievich (1440-1505), Grand Duke of Moscow from 1462. All 43 years of the reign of Ivan III Vasilievich, Grand Duke of Moscow, was engaged in the unification of Russian lands around Moscow."
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 13 February 2018 09: 35
          +2
          Quote: LSA57
          Yes, he was never a "collector of land."

          Do not find fault with the words. The meaning you understood wink
    4. 210ox
      210ox 13 February 2018 09: 19
      +6
      He told the truth ... The truth is partially. The Poles did not touch the Jews, because they had them .. But the Nazis came, and away we go .. The first informers, Poles, the protection of the camps, they too.
      Quote: Teberii
      These good conditions were especially evident in the Warsaw ghetto.
      1. demo
        demo 13 February 2018 10: 19
        +5
        The history of Jews in Polish lands dates back more than a thousand years. It had long periods of religious tolerance, but also the almost complete destruction carried out by the Nazi German state during the occupation of Poland.

        The first small Jewish communities existed in Poland by the 1346th century, and then the Polish Jewish population increased significantly, accepting Jews expelled from other European countries, including Germany (1420), Austria (1492), Spain (1497), Portugal ( 1394), France (1886), Kiev (1891), Moscow (1349), Hungary (1526-1686 and 1740-1334). King Casimir III the Great is considered the patron saint of Jews in Poland. In XNUMX, Casimir the Great removed Jews from the jurisdiction of German law and since then Jewish communities have been directly under the jurisdiction of the royal court. Following the decision of Casimir the Great to ensure the security and interests of Jews, the Kingdom of Poland became a haven for the Semitic people expelled from the rest of Europe.

        From the time of the founding of the Kingdom of Poland, through the entire period of existence of the Republic of Both Nations, created in 1569, and to the period of the military defeats of the Khmelnytsky and Flood uprisings in the 1606th century, Poland was the only Jewish tolerant state in Europe, becoming the home of one of the largest and fastest growing Jewish communities. It is no coincidence that contemporaries called Poland then “Jewish Paradise” (lat. Paradisus Iudaeorum). This name comes from the expression: “Poland was the sky for the gentry, the purgatory for the bourgeois, the hell for the slaves and the paradise for the Jews (Polish: Polska była niebem dla szlachty, czyśćcem dla mieszczan, piekłem dla chłopów, a rajem dla Żydó) beginning of the XVII century. According to Stanislav Kot, the phrase first appears in the 6 libel of an anonymous author called Paskwiliusze na królewskim weselu podrzucone. The author of this text, apparently a tradesman or a Catholic priest, criticizes the privileges of the gentry and the Jews economically associated with it [XNUMX]. The XNUMXth-century Krakow rabbi Moses Isserles emphasized that if God had not given the Jews of Poland as a refuge, the fate of the Israeli people would have been destruction.

        However, when the Polish-Lithuanian Union began to weaken due to wars and religious conflicts (between Protestants and the Catholic Counter-Reformation, as well as between the Orthodox and Brest Unions), traditional Polish tolerance also disappeared. In general, the situation of Polish Jews worsened in the second half of the XNUMXth century.

        Degenerative Jews expelled from all over Europe are suddenly accepted in one place, by one people.
        Why?
        Probably because the degenerates themselves are the same.
        That's it.
        After the next division of the Commonwealth, the part joined to the Russian Empire was called the "Plague kiss of Europe."
    5. Vend
      Vend 13 February 2018 09: 46
      +5
      For our neighbors, Khmelnitsky is a national hero, and for us, the one who made the first chord in the death of the Commonwealth,
      The first chord in the death of the Speech of the Paspolit was made by the Polish gentry. So there is nothing to shift from a sick head to a healthy one.
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 February 2018 12: 35
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        The first chord in the death of the Speech of the Paspolit was made by the Polish gentry. So there is nothing to shift from a sick head to a healthy one.

        Precise definition. You might think that their "tycoons" were meek sheep ...
    6. vlad66
      vlad66 13 February 2018 10: 04
      +11
      Quote: Teberii
      but for us, the one who made the first chord in the death of the Commonwealth,

      The stinks of Europe themselves, with their indefatigable ambition and arrogance, destroyed Poland many times. laughing
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 13 February 2018 10: 19
        +4
        Hello, hello! hi drinks I’m wondering how Svidomosaurs will react to such an escapade of logs? I propose to them to recall from Poland all the earned money - in order to undermine the Polish economy. wassat
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 13 February 2018 10: 25
          +8
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          Hello, hello! hi drinks I’m wondering how Svidomosaurs will react to such an escapade of logs? I propose to them to recall from Poland all the earned money - in order to undermine the Polish economy. wassat

          Zdarova Pasha! drinks hi Of course, it is possible for Zarobitchers to recall Khokhlov, but whether they will go back is a big question. laughing You’ll get rid of them from the country of the "aggressor". laughing
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 13 February 2018 10: 29
            +3
            Quote: vlad66
            Of course, it is possible for Zarobitchers to recall Khokhlov, but whether they will go back is a big question.

            They will end up with horns, but they won’t return to the nenka. But Poros will swell every cheek.
            Quote: vlad66
            You’ll wipe them out of the country of the “aggressor”

            Well, yes: they pour shit on Russia, but they are not in a hurry to leave. Not everyone, of course, mischief Russia, but there are enough tricks.
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 13 February 2018 10: 39
              +6
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              but lacking ushlopkov.

              This is exactly drinks
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 13 February 2018 10: 41
                +1
                In-in, a very joke on the topic! good
      2. vlad66
        vlad66 13 February 2018 10: 54
        +6
        Quote: vlad66
        Teberii

        Teberii colleague drinks hi I ask you to understand and forgive, these are not your words, but the words from the article, did not edit your comment, I apologize to the Colleague! hi hi
    7. Slovak
      Slovak 13 February 2018 20: 24
      0
      What are Pshek - politicians smoke in the morning, add to lunch and drink in the evening?
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 13 February 2018 09: 00
    +18
    ... For our neighbors Khmelnitsky is a national hero, but for us the one who made the first chord in the death of the Commonwealth ...

    Everyone from whom Lyuli was raided into enemies, everyone who speaks of Polish atrocities - under criminal law, did not have this.
    Bogdan Khmelnitsky is Hero. And there is an order of his name.
    Poles now, in modern terms, have a trend - to turn on the “insult” and to demand reparations, apologies and other “nishtyaks” from everyone ...
    It remains to portray Susanin by the "devil" himself.
    He, according to the eternal Russian denseness, drowned a detachment of Poles in a swamp ...
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 13 February 2018 09: 03
      +3
      Susanin got lost and misled the Polish Army, for us the hero for the nationalists from Poland is the enemy.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 13 February 2018 09: 22
        +5
        By the way, I still don’t understand why the Poles curse Khmelnitsky, but don’t stigmatize Susanin? Is there anything to be afraid of? He needs to put a monument in front of the Polish memorial in Smolensk. They demolish it, we put it.
        Quote: Teberii
        Susanin got lost and misled the Polish Army, for us the hero for the nationalists from Poland is the enemy.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 13 February 2018 09: 45
          +6
          Quote: 210ox
          ... He needs a monument in Smolensk in front of the Polish memorial to put ...

          Dmitriy hi
          Poles behave like pregnant hysteria.
          With a monument to Susanin, at the Polish memorial - they will fall into a railway laughing
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 13 February 2018 21: 45
          +4
          No, call Susanin the street where the Polish Embassy is located. In Warsaw, I remember there is Dudaev Square, was named after the "freedom fighter." So we will rename the name of the freedom fighter.
      2. Antares
        Antares 13 February 2018 11: 53
        0
        Quote: Teberii
        Susanin got lost and misled the Polish Army, for us the hero for the nationalists from Poland is the enemy.

        sue for the wrong roadmap and distorted navigator data.
        1. Teberii
          Teberii 14 February 2018 07: 24
          0
          On google map.
  3. Egoza
    Egoza 13 February 2018 09: 07
    +8
    And I'm not surprised. Yes, even in Soviet times, when the Poles came and took them on excursions in Kiev, stopping near the monument to Khmelnitsky, always someone whispers "a traitor!" And now you can openly say. Moreover, with Khmelnitsky "everything is not so clear." It seems like hetman and for Ukraine, but he brought the “country” to Russia, and where to put it now? “To demolish or not to demolish? That is the question!” Vyatrovich thinks.
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 13 February 2018 09: 34
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      That’s the question! ”Vyatrovich thinks.

      well, what he thinks, you won’t understand who most likely he himself doesn’t know. With such a flight of fancy, you can go far and find no way back.
      Hi Elena hi love
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 13 February 2018 11: 19
      +1
      What kind of Ukraine ?! In the time of Bogdan Khmelnitsky, they fought not for Ukraine, but like the other hetman of the Zaporizhzhya Severin Nalyvaiko - they fought for the freedom of the Russian people from the Polish occupation !!!
      Only the uprising of Severin Nalyvayko was suppressed, he was betrayed, and those who gave him all the same the Poles executed, and the Khmelnitsky uprising was successful only because he turned to the Russian Tsar for help and received support ...

      To demolish Khmelnitsky monuments or not to demolish your business, of course, if you want to serve the Poles again - demolish them, you want your ancestors to be Russian - pray for him !!!
      1. Antares
        Antares 13 February 2018 11: 55
        0
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Khmelnitsky’s rebellion was successful only because he turned to the Russian Tsar for help and received support ...

        Yes there was no support at the beginning of the special. Moscow was not ready and was waiting (although it can be said that it was waiting for the exhaustion of the parties in Chinese)
        Hops tasted the joy of victory and the bitterness of defeat.
  4. olhon
    olhon 13 February 2018 09: 11
    +1
    I bet you won’t fight?
  5. Rotmistr
    Rotmistr 13 February 2018 09: 16
    +15
    And we put this Pole on a par with Pan Chaplinsky, we’ll take his wife from Khmelnitsky.
    Not higher)
  6. alexhol
    alexhol 13 February 2018 09: 17
    -1
    The war of the mid-17th century on the territory of Belarus is one of the most bloody in history. The Pole is right.
  7. prior
    prior 13 February 2018 09: 21
    +1
    And what, the heroes of the Maidan will swallow it? Maybe at the request of the Poles and the monument to Bogdan Khmelnitsky decommunize? Great friendship of lords and slaves. European unity with the support of omerica.
  8. Berber
    Berber 13 February 2018 09: 22
    +3
    Let history be honored. If not for the Polish gentry’s ambition, Ukraine would be Polish. Khmelnitsky rushed from side to side. Let the fascists declare themselves not idiots.
  9. Evgeny Strygin
    Evgeny Strygin 13 February 2018 09: 24
    +6
    AAAAA Poles have always been nice to Jews !!!!!!!!))) what a joke) oh damn the mood has risen from such jokes
  10. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 13 February 2018 09: 30
    +4
    You can endlessly look at three things: how the water flows, how the fire burns, and how the Poles and Ukrainians cope.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 13 February 2018 11: 28
      0
      One hundred pounds Poles think the same about us. In general, everything goes as it should, but the 21st century is in the yard! fellow
  11. jovanni
    jovanni 13 February 2018 09: 35
    +2
    N-n-yes ... Mr. Poles don't learn anything ... For the umpteenth time. It seemed easier than that, watch the broom, and live in peace. So no, you are ....
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 February 2018 09: 35
    0
    What does the Jews have to do with it? But Minin and Pozharsky - all the fiends of hell? Deprived of the Moscow kingdom?
  13. Dimmih
    Dimmih 13 February 2018 09: 38
    0
    Everything in our world is relative ...
  14. Dormidont
    Dormidont 13 February 2018 09: 42
    0
    You just have to ignore the hiss of the Satanists
  15. Vard
    Vard 13 February 2018 09: 42
    0
    I re-read the article twice ... I still don’t understand ... Who puts Bogdan on a par with Hitler ... An example or a rabbi ... If the prime minister ... That’s not good .. And if the rabbi is all right. ..
  16. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 13 February 2018 09: 46
    +1
    Yes, and their heroes are no longer heroes. What Poland has come to. Already a little sorry for the Poles ....
  17. brigadier
    brigadier 13 February 2018 10: 01
    +1
    Presumably during the Khmelnitsky region, about 300000 Jews were killed. With the then population, this is quite comparable to the Holocaust.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 13 February 2018 11: 13
      +4
      Yeah, can you say a million Jews were killed ?! According to historians, all Jews lived in the entire Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth about 200-500 thousand people ... Moreover, in the whole of Ukraine no more than 30-40 thousand ...

      Yes, the Cossacks and Crimean Tatars fought with the Poles, and probably the Jews who served the Poles also got it, but there was never any genocide, and even more so as the Jewish chronicler Nathan Hanover ... This liar, was simply engaged in propaganda trying to fool the fighters with the dirt as much as possible for the freedom of the Russian people !!!

      The Jews who served the Poles did the same as the Poles ...
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 February 2018 10: 02
    +1
    It’s clear with the Polish prime minister that the clinic is the same as the Ukrainian nobility. But this will probably please visitors from Israel:
    Poland never persecuted Jews, creating good living conditions for them through various privileges
    It's time for Israel to share money with Poland in gratitude.
  19. parusnik
    parusnik 13 February 2018 10: 06
    0
    Poland never persecuted Jews, creating good living conditions for them through various privileges
    ... Characteristically, yes ... The Polish lords, in order not to engage in farming, made the stewards of the Jews. There was a lot of money to entertain and support their army ... .Manually, a pan changed the manager to another, of the same nationality .. The reason was theft. But the pan had an image, a "good" pan, a "bad" manager .. In the cities, Jews conducted banking, controlled pawnshops, salt mines and other profitable places .. The income of the panam, .. and the hatred of the Jews of the people ... The usual policy, divide and rule ..
    1. andj61
      andj61 13 February 2018 11: 21
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      Poland never persecuted Jews, creating good living conditions for them through various privileges
      ... Characteristically, yes ... The Polish lords, in order not to engage in farming, made the stewards of the Jews. There was a lot of money to entertain and support their army ... .Manually, a pan changed the manager to another, of the same nationality .. The reason was theft. But the pan had an image, a "good" pan, a "bad" manager .. In the cities, Jews conducted banking, controlled pawnshops, salt mines and other profitable places .. The income of the panam, .. and the hatred of the Jews of the people ... The usual policy, divide and rule ..

      good And not only the managers were put up - they leased land for a fixed amount, and then such a tenant beat out everything he could from the peasants. Another point - unlike Russia, the community was destroyed on Ukrainian lands, and the peasants practically had no separate land: only a plot near the hut. Also, the church belonged to the landowner, and not to the community, as in Russia. When, at the beginning of the 17th century, many Orthodox noblemen and princes, wanting to shine at the court in Krakow, changed their Orthodoxy to Catholicism, the church was also transferred to the same tenants as an arena. Or to manage the manager you mentioned. It was possible to baptize children, get married, perform any church rite only with the permission of a Jew! This, as everyone understands, did not add much love for Jews. Such managers and tenants accounted for a fraction of a percent of the entire Jewish people, but the pogroms concerned, first of all, not them - they, most often, managed to escape - but ordinary Jewish workers.
      Regarding the war of the Cossacks with the Polish state, everything here is also not so clear. Cossacks, first of all, demanded to increase the register. This is so that the king recognizes more families as Cossacks, and Cossack elders are equated in their rights with the gentry. And they demanded an end to the policy of almost forcibly planting Uniate and Catholicism. And the Cossacks fought, mainly with the same Russians. For example, the main enemy of B. Khmelnitsky was Prince Yarёma - Prince Jeremiah Vishnevetsky. He himself converted from Orthodoxy to Catholicism at the age of 18, actively and quite successfully fought with the Cossacks, and the popularity of Jeremiah in the Commonwealth after his death was so high that it even affected the career of his pupil, Prince Dmitry Vishnevetsky, who, despite that he was not at all a great commander, he nevertheless became the Great Crown Hetman, and his son Mikhail, who was elected king of Poland in 1668. So in those days, very often Russian people opposed the same Russians ... Although in Poland they consider Vishnevetsky to be a real Pole. hi
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 13 February 2018 12: 01
        +1
        Thank you, well complemented hi
  20. tveritianin
    tveritianin 13 February 2018 10: 08
    0
    Absolute idiocy. What does Hitler have to do with it? If the Cossacks separated from the Commonwealth, saving their lives. And then. that the RP fell apart then, let the Poles rummage in their national memory: what did they do in the right-bank Ukraine with the “slaves”, who were they for them? Cattle! So what does one have to do with the other? That's how many he lived on the border with them, how much he served later, he never understood: why do they all owe them, and they owe no one ?! I will not give comparisons of the Soviet times of Poland with the girl. But they have always been corrupt to those who provide their gentry with land, panhim seym and ambition for dancing and free life. For the rest and everyone around them they always did not care. Therefore, they hobbled with England, and with Napoleon, before that with the King of Saxony Augustus. And Prussia was quietly hated precisely because they did not allow them to build the dream of Poland from Mozh to Mozh!
  21. gorgo
    gorgo 13 February 2018 10: 50
    0
    Quote: Teberii
    These good conditions were especially evident in the Warsaw ghetto.

    Contrary to popular belief, the ghetto is not the place where the Jews were forcibly driven, this is the place of their voluntary, compact residence. They themselves gathered in the ghetto so as not to mix with the surrounding gentiles. Actually, often this very fact forced the rulers to solve the "Jewish question", because these ghettos were breeding grounds for sewage and infections ...
  22. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 13 February 2018 10: 59
    0
    These Polish politicians are simply impudent to the edge ... That is, the occupation of part of Russian lands in Kiev itself is the norm for them, but the Khmelnitsky uprising, which by the way first served the Poles and besieging Smolensk, even saved the life of the Polish king, for which the Polish nobility "thanked him" by killing his son and raping his wife, a tragedy for them ?!

    Polish politicians are simply hypocritical cattle ...
  23. Antares
    Antares 13 February 2018 11: 50
    0
    He is right, but not in everything. Poles to the Jews, too, did not really belong. However, the Jews served with them and were a symbol of oppression and misfortune of the panschin and a difficult situation.
    Hop for them is really an iconic figure-overthrow he Speech, but as we know in general, the Poles themselves are to blame. They played into the aristocracy, did not listen to their king, did not give the Orthodox any right, only the right to die in the fight against them. So they finished it from the inside, and Khmel already designed the whole thing.
    For the Jews, this was a terrible War of Independence. Khmel himself was not involved in the mass genocide of the Jews, however, the rebellious people killed the Jews wherever they could. They could spare the Poles to let go of the ransom, and the Jews were fundamentally destroyed. There are many such examples.
    So the true reason lies in the actions of the Polish lords themselves. They finished off a powerful country from the inside.
  24. abeluk
    abeluk 13 February 2018 11: 54
    0
    why don't you like Khmelnitsky ?? painful and insulting to remember. On May 6, 1648, under the Yellow Waters, Bogdan Khmelnytsky destroyed a Polish gentry, elite, and “flying” hussars — 7000 people — to a single man. Then Korsun, Pilyava, to Lviv. And in Lviv he took a rich ransom from them.
  25. svp67
    svp67 13 February 2018 12: 38
    0
    Polish Prime Minister put Bohdan Khmelnytsky in one row with Adolf Hitler
    For Ukraine, the "third bell" already sounds exactly, the next statement is the refusal to recognize the Ukrainians as an independent nation ....
  26. Lexus
    Lexus 13 February 2018 15: 27
    0
    Fortunately for him, Bogdan Khmelnitsky will not stand up and will not travel through the “dome” with a mace. And that rabbi, like many worshipers, for a "handful" of dollars, anyone "pleases."
  27. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 13 February 2018 20: 32
    +1
    You can also put the Polish king John II Casimir put on a par with Khmelnitsky. And the Jews have nothing to do with it, but what the Poles did with the inhabitants of Little Russia it already smells of genocide.