In Syria, during the air strikes of the western coalition killed Russian

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Kirill Ananiev, an activist of the Other Russia, died in Syria during an air strike by an international coalition led by the United States. RIA News the message of the coordinator of the organization Alexander Averin.





According to him, earlier Ananiev fought as a volunteer in the Donbass, after which he left for Syria.

He was not a formal military man,
added Averin.

Ananev left a wife and children.

On Thursday night, the press service of the Western Alliance reported on an "unprovoked attack" on the headquarters of the "Syrian Democratic Forces" by pro-government groups. The release states that aviation the coalition retaliated "to repel an act of aggression against partners involved in the fight against IS (the group is prohibited in the Russian Federation)."

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the coalition attacked the Syrian militias, who carried out an operation against the "sleeping" cell of terrorists. As a result, 25 people suffered. The ministry noted that one of the reasons for the incident was that the militia did not coordinate their plans with the Russian military.

At the same time, the defense ministry stressed that the actions of the USA once again demonstrate the true goals of their presence in Syria: the international coalition does not fight the IS, but seeks to seize the economic assets of the republic.
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  1. +5
    13 February 2018 08: 45
    the international coalition does not fight ISIS, but seeks to seize the republic’s economic assets.

    Who would doubt! The theory of controlled chaos.
    1. +22
      13 February 2018 08: 46
      Well, at least one was recognized ...
      1. +5
        13 February 2018 08: 52
        Quote: Thrall
        Well, at least one was recognized ...

        Moscow region, what did it answer? Not a single soldier of the Russian Federation died there! And it's true! PMCs were created to promote national interests, without, so to speak, exposure (not officially)
        1. +8
          13 February 2018 08: 54
          I’m talking about the federal media, and the article is about them too. And here is the MO?
          1. +4
            13 February 2018 08: 58
            Quote: Thrall
            I'm about the federal media

            And where does the federal media?
          2. +3
            13 February 2018 15: 17
            And what is it recognized? "Other Russia" is an anti-government paramilitary, and in fact a terrorist, organization. For whom this man fought, in which detachment - it is not clear. Could for ISIS. But obviously not as part of the Defense Ministry or MTR.
            PMCs PMCs are different, there are those who work for state. contract (the same Black Waters), there are generally in fact gangs or individual mercenaries. So before you judge, you need to understand who and where this dead from. Yes, and "was there a boy?"
        2. +5
          13 February 2018 08: 59
          PMC - soldiers of fortune, mercenaries, the world team. They do not care for whom they are fighting. winked
          1. +26
            13 February 2018 09: 03
            Quote: siberalt
            PMC - soldiers of fortune, mercenaries, the world team. They do not care for whom they are fighting.

            You, so to speak, are not much naive!
          2. +8
            13 February 2018 09: 17
            They do not care for whom they are fighting.

            And who pays them? The Syrian government, and through whom? That's right. Then untwist the logical chain ....
          3. +21
            13 February 2018 09: 18
            Quote: siberalt
            PMC - soldiers of fortune, mercenaries, the world team. They do not care for whom they are fighting. winked

            I will surprise you, but all PMCs are somehow subordinate to the local MO. That our "Wagner" that American blackwater. Moreover, the participation of PMCs in international conflicts is carried out under the direct leadership of the Ministry of Defense.
          4. +31
            13 February 2018 09: 31
            Quote: siberalt
            ... PMC - soldiers of fortune, mercenaries, the world team. They do not care for whom they are fighting. winked...

            Oleg!
            Not in the nineteenth century we live. What are you categories of the past - soldiers of fortune, mercenaries, "they do not care" ...
            If our spit was, then ISIS has long been Orthodox ...
            As we know, the Wagner Group, PMCs, did not carry out unfinished tasks in the interests of Russia. Guys are recruited by contract. And on this we must put an end, and not align our boys with the "wild geese", ready for the denyuzhka mom slaughter.
            Do not mix everything in a heap.
            1. 0
              13 February 2018 14: 52
              This is how you combine Ishil and Orthodoxy?
              1. +8
                13 February 2018 14: 58
                Quote: iljael
                ... This is how you combine Ishil and Orthodoxy? ...

                Probably not with "you", but with you. "
                In order that such questions would not arise, you need a little - to follow the comments.
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                  1. +5
                    13 February 2018 15: 16
                    Quote: iljael
                    ... Is that an excuse? I read everything carefully. please answer for the bazaar ...

                    Watch your speech.
                    Reread again carefully.
                    1. 0
                      13 February 2018 15: 24
                      Andryusha just don’t start about places not so distant! And if YOU have problems with conscience, then this is not a reason to blame everything on Orthodoxy.
                      Z. If I understood everything correctly from your answers and moods.
                      1. +9
                        13 February 2018 15: 34
                        Quote: iljael
                        ... Andryusha just do not start about places not so distant! And if YOU have problems with conscience, then this is not a reason to blame everything on Orthodoxy.
                        Z. If I understood everything correctly from your answers and moods ...

                        I’ll tell you in secret: Andryusha, only ladies call me laughing
                        Well, you are modest, hide yourself with Feney, press on conscience, hint about the church love
                        I'm married already laughing
            2. 0
              14 February 2018 23: 56
              They conclude contracts not with Moscow Region, but with PMCs.
              1. +5
                15 February 2018 00: 09
                Quote: serega61
                ... They conclude contracts not with Moscow Region, but with PMCs ...

                There are no PMCs in Russia hi
                The contract can be concluded even on the collective farm "70 years without a harvest," the trick is that the counterparty is either from the special services or supervised by the special services laughing
          5. +1
            13 February 2018 10: 37
            That is, Russia can hire American PMCs?
            1. +4
              13 February 2018 11: 10
              Quote: Bronevick
              That is, Russia can hire American PMCs?

              In principle, yes, but if the Amer authorities allow this. Why do you need PMCs, I’ll try to explain approximately. Such a company is being created to solve the country's power problems without declaring war. For example, Ukraine, if our regular troops are brought in there, it will be regarded as an act of aggression of an entire country and a declaration of war, sort of according to international law, and PMCs do what we need while the country does not participate in hostilities, since this is a private office and works for hire supposedly the same LDNR, can be presented to the office. but not the country. something like this approximately, and they came up with this if my partners are not mistaken from behind a puddle smile And at the moment, Russia can hire Black Water, but only the “opposition” if they stir up the war, in the interests of the owners of PMCs, that is, the Americans will send us their fighters, but they will show ours in front of us, request I don’t understand yours, our army is in place, and who you understand yourself, and since the PMC soldier has no rights, he remains on his own and without official support of the country he serves.
        3. +20
          13 February 2018 09: 29
          Quote: You Vlad
          MO what answered? Not one soldier of the Russian Federation did not die there!

          But PMCs are not our people anymore? What difference does it make that he is a soldier of the Moscow Region or PMC, in any case he is a soldier of the Russian structures, sometimes dying precisely for her interests!
          Quote: You Vlad
          PMCs were created to promote national interests, without, so to speak, exposure (not officially)

          That is, the death of these Russian citizens can be ignored? (Most of them are Russian citizens, the rest are from Donetsk. Their death is no less mournful!)
          PMCs are the offspring of capitalism in order to handle their dark deeds and pay off the death of soldiers. Now, Russia has adopted this capitalist ploy.
          Quote: siberalt
          PMC - soldiers of fortune, mercenaries, the world team. They do not care for whom they are fighting. winked

          Did the Wagnerites themselves tell you this?
          1. +4
            13 February 2018 09: 49
            Stas, as always, you read poorly, read it again and again until it reaches!
            [quote = you Vlad] soldier of the Russian Federation [/ quote]
            [quote = Stas157] in any case, he is a serviceman of Russian structures [/ quote]
            Do not guess, Stas is private structure! [quote = Stas157] And PMCs aren't our people anymore? [/ quote]
            Officially no! Not officially, but ours! [Quote = Stas157] [quote = Stas157] PMCs are the offspring of capitalism to trim their dark deeds and pay off the death of soldiers. Now Russia has adopted this capitalist ploy. [/ Quote]
            Vote for Grudinin, I guessed the further course of your thoughts? laughing
          2. +9
            13 February 2018 10: 31
            Quote: Stas157
            But PMCs are not our people anymore? What difference does it make that he is a soldier of the Moscow Region or PMC, in any case he is a soldier of the Russian structures, sometimes dying precisely for her interests!

            Stas, hi ! Exactly. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation once again "washed"!
            [quote] According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the coalition attacked Syrian militias who conducted the operation against the "sleeping" cell of the terrorists. As a result, 25 people were injured. The department noted that one of the reasons for what happened was that the militia did not coordinate their plans with the Russian military. [
            / Quote]

            Another nonsense of "konashenkovye". When the PMC participated in the assault on DeZ, sweeps in Alleppo, did they also not coordinate their plans with the Moscow Region?
            According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the coalition attacked the Syrian militias, who conducted the operation against the "sleeping" cell of the terrorists.

            Yeah! And the "sleeping cell" of the terrorists held a "party meeting" in the territory of the local oil refinery. hi
          3. +1
            13 February 2018 10: 55
            Quote: Stas157
            That is, the death of these Russian citizens can be ignored?


            In May 2015, Vladimir Putin signed a decree according to which the state secret includes information from the Ministry of Defense about losses during special peacetime operations. Up to this point, only military losses during the war were not subject to disclosure - such a situation was approved by the Presidential Decree of November 30, 1995.
            So what do you want a military secret to be revealed to you?
          4. +4
            13 February 2018 11: 09
            Yes, you understand, the Wagner group is our soldiers and the Moscow Region mournes (an adequate part) in the same way as all citizens do, but they DO NOT officially recognize such rules of the game. This is some kind of youthful maximalism. They didn’t recognize it. There are simply tasks that can only be done in this way. If the MO will recognize them as their losses then what is the point in them? And yes they are paid very well, and they know what they are going to. But they will not go for any money to fight APU for example. In my opinion, these are obvious things.
        4. +9
          13 February 2018 09: 40
          Guys disagree ...
          Here is a statement of what, who, where and how much.
          https://news-front.info/2018/02/12/tupejshij-vbro
          s-2-aleksandr-rodzhers /? utm_source = warfiles.ru

          Special greetings to many of the Ubrorazvedka intelligence throws. Yes, and the elections in Russia are close, but here it is ...)))))))))))))))))))))
          1. +1
            13 February 2018 12: 09
            Okay, took note of this opinion.
            And also this
            https://newsland.com/user/4297807604/content/chto
            -sluchilos-v-sirii-o-massovoi-gibeli-rossiiskikh-
            voennykh-rasshifrovka-peregovorov / 6207679
            And then we will follow up with emerging facts confirming this or that version
      2. +8
        13 February 2018 08: 54
        Quote: Thrall
        Well, at least one was recognized ...

        Four died.
        As he said, in social networks their comrades confirmed.
        1. +9
          13 February 2018 08: 58
          Quote: Scoun

          Four died.


          These are those whose names surfaced on the network, and unfortunately far from the fact that four)
          1. +5
            13 February 2018 09: 24
            Quote: Aleksandr21
            Quote: Scoun

            Four died.


            These are those whose names surfaced on the network, and unfortunately far from the fact that four)

            Yes, even one, very bad, just when the Vasilievs begin to start a song about hundreds ... and so on.
          2. +2
            13 February 2018 09: 27
            Quote: Aleksandr21
            Quote: Scoun

            Four died.


            These are those whose names surfaced on the network, and unfortunately far from the fact that four)

            Time will tell. Agree with me that if 200 people died there, as some write, then 50 names should come up, am I right?
            1. +3
              13 February 2018 10: 26
              Quote: Muvka


              Time will tell. Agree with me that if 200 people died there, as some write, then 50 names should come up, am I right?


              And no one talks about 200, for example, I also don’t really trust Girkin’s information, the numbers there are clearly too high. At the bottom there is an article in which Maxim Buga Ataman speaks of 15-20 dead and 50 wounded. Scroll down below the comment, there you will find. This information is more likely to be true, although this is not the case, every dead person is already a loss.
              1. +1
                13 February 2018 10: 30
                In fairness, they themselves are to blame. In this case, I do not feel such hostility towards the Americans. They contacted ours, clarified before the strike.
                1. +1
                  13 February 2018 16: 24
                  Are they the RF Ministry of Defense? They then contacted them, and they replied that "there are none of ours, bomb." And who is Judas?

                  The group was given an order from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, they carried it out, and the fact that some people, due to an attempt to hide the fact that the enemy knew, threw their own for slaughter.
                  1. 0
                    13 February 2018 16: 27
                    Exactly. Because it was an unauthorized sortie. Most likely for some separate money.
        2. +4
          13 February 2018 10: 13
          Quote: Scoun
          Four died.
          As he said, in social networks their comrades confirmed.

          Is this it? CIT named the names of Russians killed in Syria Now imagine for a start a picture - your friend serves as a “musician”, as far as I understand (I used to look at their site) more or less seriously with disclosure and open mittens, and your personal friend died there (God forbid, of course) or mine , you will become nete or so tell everyone this in a row? As I suppose there should probably be a non-disclosure column under the contract, and if so, the family may not receive compensation, this assumption may be wrong. And here's what I led you to -Conflict Intelligence Team: who is behind the scandalous revelations?
          In every state there are people and even whole companies whose purpose is to destabilize the situation in the country. You need to know the enemies of the people by sight, therefore, in fact, I decided today to introduce you to one of the not-so-famous Russian opposition and his brainchild.
          more details on -
          https://blogbaster.livejournal.com/699801.html
          This is for an aperitif, but here for a snack - CYBERBERKUT HACKED THE ELECTRONIC RESOURCES OF RUSLAN LEVIEV-As we have already established earlier, through Ukraine, in particular through the SBU, GUR and MP Anton Gerashchenko, Western intelligence agencies coordinate the activities of human rights organizations in Russia itself.



          Having uncovered the network infrastructure of Gerashchenko, we went to his henchmen - the Anti-Corruption Fund of Alexei Navalny, Elena Vasiliev and Ruslan Leviev, who are now the objects of our further investigation
          .---- https://news-front.info/2016/02/24/kiberberkut-vz
          lomal-elektronnye-resursy-ruslana-levieva-18 /
          Even the link to the feed leads, you there in the search engine hammer the name - CYBERBERKUT HACKED THE ELECTRONIC RESOURCES OF RUSLAN LEVIEV.
      3. +2
        13 February 2018 09: 00
        How many? Who should be recognized? It’s some kind of partisans who decide their affairs in the territory where the war is going on. They did not begin to inform us - and ran into it. There, Russian citizens - those who went to ISIS, our VKS crushed thousands ... The war, however ...
        1. +8
          13 February 2018 09: 39
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          They did not begin to inform us - and ran into it. There, Russian citizens - those who went to ISIS, our VKS crushed thousands ... The war, however ...

          Citizens who left to fight for ISIS, primarily criminals. It is not necessary to equate these citizens with special forces from PMCs who are fighting and sacrificing their lives for the interests of the Defense Ministry and Russia.
          1. +8
            13 February 2018 10: 02
            A few comments, including yours, were about Russia's interests. But at my divine-everyday level I think that it’s still not in the interests of Russia, but in the interests of a narrow circle of Russian citizens. Since the operation of the Wagnerites was precisely in the capture of the oil field. In short, they died for business, but not for their homeland and Russia
            1. +7
              13 February 2018 10: 51
              Quote: Dangerous
              I, at my divine-everyday level, think that it’s still not in the interests of Russia, but in the interests of a narrow circle of Russian citizens. Since the operation of the Wagnerites was precisely in the capture of the oil field. In short, they died for business, but not for their homeland and Russia

              It is very possible. But, managed and coordinated by PMCs, Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and by no one else. This supposedly private structure was created and is being supervised by people who have or had a direct relationship with the RF Ministry of Defense.
              I generally suspect that the Kremlin itself is pursuing a policy in the interests of a narrow circle of Russian citizens. Otherwise, how to explain the fact that 1% of parasites belong to 80% of Russian wealth?
              In short, we are going to the polls, and we hope that this time they will not cheat us.
      4. +12
        13 February 2018 09: 09
        Salute, the Slavs! hi
        I do not think that on the eve of the election campaign they will excite the topic in Syria, all the more so in this format ....
        The participation of PMCs is a phantom that does not exist for official media, there are no people - no problem .... sad
        The death of Roman Filipov, now the Wagner team, statistics are not joyful ......
        1. 0
          13 February 2018 09: 24
          Quote: Solomon Kane
          The death of Roman Filipov, now the Wagner team, statistics are not joyful ......

          In war it happens, people die! And about non-joyful statistics, a person’s death cannot be joyful! One in a thousand is good statistics.
      5. +8
        13 February 2018 09: 11
        Quote: Thrall
        Well, at least one was recognized ...

        Well, for anyone, this is not 150-200-600, as some here yesterday popped, giving out wishful thinking.
        1. +3
          13 February 2018 09: 21
          I also do not believe in hundreds of people and piles of technology. Even the Pentagon speaks of 100 dead, with the Syrians being the main base. But Strelkov and Murid do not care. 200-600.
      6. +2
        13 February 2018 09: 35
        Quote: Thrall
        Well, at least one was recognized ...

        And the more the better for you?
      7. +8
        13 February 2018 09: 53
        Quote: Thrall
        Well, at least one was recognized ...

        You need a colleague to Girkin, he admitted 600, today he recognizes even more. But seriously, they seem to recognize four. Although everything is so confused, the devil will break his leg. hi
        1. +8
          13 February 2018 10: 06
          Quote: vlad66
          ... You need a colleague to Girkin, he admitted 600, today he recognizes even more. But for serious four people seem to have recognized. Although everything is so confused, the devil will break his leg. hi...

          Hello, Vlad hi
          Regarding Strelka’s confessions, there is a feeling that different experts are competing - who’s catching the worst.
          In fact, they pour water on the enemy’s mill. All information is brewed on "maybe," "probably," "all betrayed," "all gone."
          Our guys died. Fact. There is a war going on. Several people died, most likely - those who either accompanied or provided communication.
          Honor and praise to the guys, not sitting on the couch and picking their nose, but doing business - men's business.
          1. +7
            13 February 2018 10: 20
            Quote: Andrey K
            And they were engaged in business - male business.

            Hi Andrew! drinks hi Four like ours perished, honor and Eternal Memory to them.
            Quote: Andrey K
            In fact, they pour water on the enemy’s mill. All information is brewed on "maybe," "probably," "all betrayed," "all gone."

            Well, about Girkin
            The leader of the Great Patriotic Party, Nikolai Starikov, met with readers in St. Petersburg's Bukvoed. The conversation went about Igor Strelkov, more precisely about what he turned into. Starikov was surprised why Strelkov began to wag so much with his tongue, including the fact that the Ukrainian media use to the detriment of Russia and LDNR. It seems that Strelkov is sitting on a salary and voicing the theses necessary for Western customers. In fact, Strelkov became the mouthpiece of the Ukrainian media after he fled from the Donbass in disgrace. But why say that the drunkards and drug addicts are fighting for the DPR? Where did Strelkova get such information in principle? Special reports are sent to him in Moscow with the number of drug-dependent militias ?! Anyway, how will such information affect the defenders of New Russia? Shooters refuses to think about it, but simply shakes with his empty broomstick. The grateful Ukrainian propagandists immediately pick up the topic. And so every time. Strelkov blurts out about “deliveries of Russian weapons” to the Donbass, and ukroSMI is already circulating bullshit. Humanitarian aid, according to Strelkov, is being stolen. Ukrainian publications are here, like here. And once the former commander of the militias said that he drove the Crimean deputies to vote in a referendum. Of course, the media of Independence were grateful for such a plot. Another reason appeared for them to talk about the “illegal annexation of Crimea.” If we summarize only a few wrecking words spoken by Strelkov, it turns out that drug addicts who plunder humanitarian supplies defend LDNR. They probably drank right away, as soon as the "glorified commander" escaped from them. Cossack chieftain Pavel Dremov directly accused Strelkov of surrendering Slavyansk for money: “If there is chaos in the army, it will be like it was a year ago with Mr. Girkin. You can simply sell Slavyansk for a certain amount. And then open your foundation. ” Judging by the subsequent information attacks of Strelkov against Donbass, Dremov was right.
            Strelkov first surrendered Slavyansk, and then escaped from Donetsk with the loot. Apparently, this seemed to him not enough and he began to look for a supplier of stuffing for the Ukrainian media, sitting on his Moscow couch. I wonder how much more we will endure this coward and traitor on our land. Strelkov’s place in Kiev, not in Moscow.
            Alexander Vasilevsky.https: //oko-planet.su/politik/politik
            list / 414433-postavschik-feykov-strelkov-predaet-d
            onbass-kazhdyy-den.html
            By the way, Dremov soon died under unclear circumstances. drinks hi
            1. +8
              13 February 2018 10: 31
              vlad66 hi
              ... Four like ours perished, honor and Eternal Memory to them ...

              They did the right thing and died not in manure, manly. Earth rest in peace for the children ...
              ... Well, about Girkin ...

              Vlad, about Igor, I don’t need to tell anything. I just know him. Rather, I knew. We crossed paths into the second campaign. There was a normal guy - it was a completely different person. What happened to him, why his brain got so sick - I don’t know.
              I do not want to discuss and blame him. He chose his own path request
              1. +7
                13 February 2018 10: 44
                Quote: Andrey K
                What happened to him, why his brain got so sick - I don’t know.

                Andrei many Donetsk residents are just as perplexed about the shooter and this is still mildly said.
                Quote: Andrey K
                I do not want to discuss and blame him. He chose his own path

                God be his judge, no one left this answer. drinks
                1. +5
                  13 February 2018 10: 57
                  vlad66
                  ... God is his judge, no one left this answer ...

                  That's right Yes
      8. +1
        13 February 2018 11: 12
        There are 4 names. It is clear that everyone is not recognized.
      9. +3
        13 February 2018 11: 42
        Quote: Thrall
        Well, at least one was recognized ...

        1. +2
          13 February 2018 14: 12
          Strange video. The US in Iraq actively helped Iraq and the Kurds against the Isis when the conflict began. Now igil in Iraq is broken, the US special forces remained. In Syria, the SDF has become a formidable force with a strength of 100k and occupies territories with oil thanks to the United States. Who won in Syria? And we all know very well that wars are always waged for resources, and all sorts of igil is just an excuse.
  2. 0
    13 February 2018 08: 45
    Nothing is new under the moon, but that someone hoped they would come to their senses. Or conscience would wake up.
  3. +5
    13 February 2018 08: 47
    "Relatives and acquaintances of Igor Kosoturov, Stanislav Matveyev, Vladimir Loginov and Kirill Ananyev confirmed to the media information about their deaths in the Syrian Arab Republic. For example, the Conflict Intelligence Team, which investigates military conflicts in Ukraine and Syria, indicated these names among the fighters" Wagner’s private military company, which came under the massive blow of the Western coalition on February 7 near Deir ez-Zor.

    For example, the brother of Stanislav Matveev informed RBC that the exact cause of death has not yet been named, while relatives are waiting for the body to be delivered to their homeland. The death of Cossack Vladimir Loginov was confirmed in the organization “Baltic Separate Cossack District”. The death of activist Kirill Ananiev was confirmed by the representative of "Other Russia" Alexander Averin. "

    source mk
    1. +13
      13 February 2018 09: 27
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      So, the Conflict Intelligence Team,

      Team analyst
      It's the same
      Photos where he kills kittens I will not spread.
      Russophobe living in Kiev, an ardent fan of bulk. Conflict Intelligence Team, collaborates with London Bellingcat. They use open sources from social networks in their investigations. In this case, from Girkin. Better with Fontanka Old take
      1. +1
        13 February 2018 10: 13
        Actually, the source is Moskovsky Komsomolets, and an article from them. Or are they now also on the list of Russophobes? And here is this information: “In Syria, under the airstrike of an international coalition led by the United States, the activist of the Other Russia Kirill Ananyev died”, do you think the Conflict Intelligence Team analysts came up with? Or, "On Monday, the Network reported that a Kaliningrad Cossack Vladimir Loginov was killed in Syria as a result of an alleged American attack. Buga confirmed the death of his fellow countryman, as well as the fact that this happened as a result of a coalition strike." this ?

        1. +3
          13 February 2018 10: 32
          Quote: Aleksandr21
          source Moskovsky Komsomolets

          Hmmm ... REN-TV or AIDS-Info may be a more reliable source. smile
          1. +6
            13 February 2018 10: 42
            Quote: Alexey RA
            ... M-yes ... REN-TV or AIDS-Info can be a more reliable source ...

            You have forgotten Analyst Osama Ali Suleiman and his Syrian Observatory of Human Rights.

            He knows fffso!
            He receives reports every second, arm, leg and other parts of the body - he keeps abreast. On whose pulse? It is not yet known for sure, but it holds laughing
          2. +2
            13 February 2018 10: 42
            Quote: Alexey RA

            Hmmm ... REN-TV or AIDS-Info may be a more reliable source. smile


            Well, there’s not much to choose, either such infa or generally an information blockade by the official media. Such a topic (the deaths of our PMCs in Syria) in Russia 24 will not be raised for sure :) MOs have already disowned, and they simply will not let such info go through the channels.
  4. +2
    13 February 2018 08: 47
    Which side did this comrade fight? If on the side of government forces, it means to make it clear to the leaders of the coalition that their citizens in Syria are also not immortal!
    1. 0
      13 February 2018 09: 03
      And they were not there.
      1. +1
        13 February 2018 09: 11
        Quote: KonoGon
        And they were not there.

        Only 4 thousand people.
      2. +3
        13 February 2018 09: 33
        Quote: KonoGon
        And they were not there

        “Ichtamnets” are always where they are needed (and especially where the enemy does not expect to meet them).
        And yes, sometimes they fall "under the hand": fate is a quantity with a changing value, direction and sign ...
  5. +3
    13 February 2018 08: 48
    Another Russia activist Kirill Ananyev died,
    who is that? and what did he do there? and why is there nothing else on the net? again some untested stuffing?
    1. +4
      13 February 2018 08: 49
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      and why is there nothing else on the net?

      the network already has a car and a small cart of information
      1. +3
        13 February 2018 08: 56
        Quote: Thrall
        the network already has a car and a small cart of information

        one and the same comes across ...
      2. +1
        13 February 2018 09: 04
        And the source of this Infa is Strelkov’s message, distorted by the Ukrainian ...
      3. +1
        13 February 2018 09: 22
        Quote: Thrall
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        and why is there nothing else on the net?

        the network already has a car and a small cart of information

        There is no evidence online. In addition to audio recordings. All. And now a few names. Do you have more evidence? By the way, I spent several hours of my life looking at the history of flightradar24 from the 7th. There, only 2 An-124s landed and flew to Khmeimim during this time, which then flew in the direction of the South and 1 Il-76, which only landed. My question is - what were the dead people brought to Russia on?
    2. +3
      13 February 2018 09: 09
      Val, even Sidorenko posted - this is a detachment of ISIS hunters reset. There were Russians with them. Here in this photo, some of the dead Russians are also there.
  6. BAI
    +1
    13 February 2018 08: 50
    Already at least 4 Russians have died.
  7. +4
    13 February 2018 08: 57
    they will send a note of protest. If I watch Ren TV, then I don’t win the answers, I won’t go watch the rent about Russian weapons about Russian savvy
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  9. +6
    13 February 2018 09: 01
    Such is the specificity of all PMCs and ours is no exception ... People know what they are going to ... Condolences to their relatives ...
    1. +2
      13 February 2018 09: 23
      It is not known how many American PMCs in Syria and Iraq died, including at the hands of our VKS. Especially recently in Idlib.
      1. +5
        13 February 2018 09: 27
        Not known how much
        "wild geese" no one ever considered .... Such is the policy of "peacetime" ..
      2. 0
        14 February 2018 15: 58
        There are no American PMCs in Syria. Neither in Idlib, nor in other areas. Only Pentagon military personnel. (In Iraq - there are American PMCs).
        In Syria, 4 US troops died (2 in battle, 2 in accidents) and 4 civilians.
    2. +1
      13 February 2018 09: 53
      All this is muddy. It seems that the PMC customer intentionally put them under attack.
      1. +5
        13 February 2018 10: 01
        . It seems that the PMC customer intentionally put them under attack.
        What is it like? You either express a reasoned justification or do not rush with words.
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  12. +1
    13 February 2018 09: 10
    Yeah, "one" ....

    http://k-politika.ru/raskryty-obstoyatelstva-mass
    ovoj-gibeli-rossiyan-v-sirii /? utm_source = warfiles
    . Ru
    1. +3
      13 February 2018 09: 21
      Thanks for the link, interesting information.

      "The losses of Russian volunteers as a result of the American strike in Syria are greatly exaggerated, most of them died during the movement in a truck, said Ataman of the Baltic separate Cossack district Maxim Bug, referring to associates who continue to operate in the Arab country.

      On Monday, the network reported that in Syria, as a result of an alleged American attack, the Kaliningrad Cossack Vladimir Loginov was killed. Bug confirmed the death of a fellow countryman, as well as the fact that this happened as a result of a coalition strike.

      At the same time, the chieftain denied the data appeared on the web about hundreds of victims among Russians. According to him, the casualties amounted to 15-20 people, about 50 were injured.

      The chieftain explained various data about the circumstances of the battle that appear on the Web by the fact that each participant in the clashes has his own vision of events, "the general has his own, and the person at the front line has his own."

      “Therefore, different information came. One said it was in the offensive, the other that during the displacement. Most of the people died when they were driving in Kamaz, ”said Buga.

      The strike was, according to him, either a missile from a helicopter, or artillery, and the helicopter pointed.

      Ataman refused to name the organization, which includes volunteers in Syria. Now about 10 Kaliningrad Cossacks remain in the Arab Republic, Bug said, noting that there may be more immigrants from the region, since people of "different political convictions" are sent there. "
      1. +3
        13 February 2018 10: 22
        And here’s “nothing” Putin’s telephone conversation with Trump ... wink

        https://news.mail.ru/politics/32538335/?frommail=
        1
  13. +1
    13 February 2018 09: 11
    . The department noted that one of the reasons for what happened was that the militia did not coordinate their plans with the Russian military.


    Well then, it's weird to be surprised.
    1. +3
      13 February 2018 09: 39
      And no one is surprised :: the operational command ALWAYS knows what and where "theirtnets" are engaged in, but the answer will always be "we have no idea who you are talking about!" laughing
  14. +2
    13 February 2018 09: 15
    Put Syria up-to-date air defense systems so that they can really “reveal a useless zone throughout the territory for uninvited guests, but in fact aggressors. Then they can drive the barmalei on the ground. And there it’s already thinking how to pick out American bases. This is a difficult process, Cuba still cannot drive them out of Guantanamo.
    1. 0
      13 February 2018 10: 00
      Quote: Rostislav
      Put Syria modern air defense systems


      At whose expense?
      Syria has already lost as they say from 1/3 to half of the air defense recently.
  15. +3
    13 February 2018 09: 17
    It seems the mattresses have crossed the red line. Ours began to die from their blows. Not intentionally, "not really military personnel," all these are details. If there will be no answer. That’s all. Write is gone. They will trample us. All this is dangerous. Highly.
    1. +1
      13 February 2018 09: 29
      Quote: vladimirvn
      It seems the mattresses have crossed the red line. Ours began to die from their blows. Not intentionally, "not really military personnel," all these are details. If there will be no answer. That’s all. Write is gone. They will trample us. All this is dangerous. Highly.

      It happens there all the time, a bridge over the Euphrates, for example, a mattress spoils as it can and answers in the same vein will be ...
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  17. +6
    13 February 2018 09: 23
    "coalitions attacked Syrian militias,
    who conducted the operation against the "sleeping" cell of terrorists "////

    Against a sleeping neutral oil field in the neutral zone
    between the Kurds and the Syrian army.
    Moreover, the deposit (unfortunately) was directly opposite the fortified area
    Kurds and their headquarters. And there were few Kurds there, since they had transferred many of their fighters
    in Afrin, fight the Turks.
    Kurds panicked when they saw a convoy of troops and artillery unfolding opposite them
    and requested air support from the Americans.
    The Americans arrived and in a few minutes shot the convoy.
    1. +2
      13 February 2018 09: 31
      if so, then the answer will be both.
      1. +9
        13 February 2018 09: 37
        There will be neither one nor the other.
        The Russian Defense Ministry denied: "these are mercenaries, not the army, no one coordinated the operation with the VKS."
        Kurds and Americans tried to contact the Russians before the bombing.
        They said they did not know anything about a ground attack.
        1. 0
          13 February 2018 09: 44
          First a few minutes, then 4 hours. You somehow decide.
        2. 0
          13 February 2018 09: 49
          Sounds like the truth. On spec-naz.org the same info
          1. 0
            13 February 2018 09: 51
            Because one source is taken. That's why a similar infa.
            1. 0
              13 February 2018 09: 56
              It’s possible, but the people are serious there - usually they don’t post a blizzard
              1. +1
                13 February 2018 15: 51
                ahaha, how is it. Believe in virtual PMCs and other tales.
        3. +5
          13 February 2018 10: 03
          And what do you want the Defense Ministry to openly threaten the US Armed Forces in Syria?
          Do you think American instructors in Syria are not getting it? Yes there are a dime a dozen of them.
          The action of retaliation will not be advertised, as much as sofa experts would not want this.
          Moreover, a Chinese warning was immediately given to the Americans through their friends of Jews that planes and helicopters would be shot down. Moreover, the aircraft are deeply modernized.
          Great, right? lose 1 plane irrevocably, 3 damaged. and in response to shoot down a cheap drone and bomb the inflatable plywood "circus du sali"
          How do you not answer for the United States?
          Yes, and Wagnerites now revenge is ripening. They fight for the idea, and get good money for it. To avenge a holy work
        4. +2
          13 February 2018 10: 14
          Quote: voyaka uh
          There will be neither one nor the other.
          The Russian Defense Ministry denied: "these are mercenaries, not the army, no one coordinated the operation with the VKS."
          Kurds and Americans tried to contact the Russians before the bombing.
          They said they did not know anything about a ground attack.

          Perhaps such. One way or another, but in war there are losses from "friendly fire".
      2. +1
        13 February 2018 13: 02
        Quote: Lance
        if so, then the answer will be both.

        Maybe "unexpectedly", by mistake, the "dad of all bombs" will fall on this factory / in vain, if it was recently modernized /, unless, of course, some oligarch laid eyes on him.
    2. +4
      13 February 2018 11: 19
      Quote: voyaka uh

      The Americans arrived and in a few minutes shot the convoy.

      Not in a few minutes. That's what WP wrote about this and for some reason I trust her more than the Russian Defense Ministry.
      In Syria, Russian bad faith turns fatal
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisa
      n / wp / 2018/02/09 / in-syria-russian-bad-faith-turns-
      fatal /? utm_term = .1a6b58f51189

      Shaddadi, Syria - This week's deadly clash between US and Russian forces backed by Syria is associated with many ominous omens. But, according to the Syrian Kurdish commander who was watching him, it was, above all, a legend about Russian dishonesty, which American officials consider a chronic problem in the process of resolving the war in Syria.

      General Hassan, the commander of the Kurds led by the Syrian Democratic Forces in the region, points to that spot on the map east of the city of Deir ez-Zora, 80 kilometers miles southeast of where, he said, tanks and artillery supporting the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, began on Wednesday evening the advance to the headquarters occupied by his forces and advisers from the American special operations forces (Hassan, like some other senior Kurdish commanders, does not give his full name).

      According to Hassan, he received intelligence on the preparation of the offensive from the formations supporting the regime. At 21:30 p.m. on Wednesday, about half an hour before the offensive, he called the Russian liaison officer in Deir ez-Zor, with whom he was in contact, in the hope that he would be able to stop this operation. “We said that a certain movement is taking place and that we would not want to attack the participants in these actions. They (Russians) did not accept our proposal, they denied everything and said that nothing was happening, ”Hassan said through an interpreter. He spoke with several correspondents who arrived here on Thursday with Major General James B. Jarrard, who oversees the actions of the American Special Operations Forces in Syria and Iraq.

      US officers made a similar attempt to prevent clashes. As emphasized in a Pentagon statement on Thursday, "coalition representatives constantly maintained contact with their Russian counterparts before, during, and after the offensive." “The Russian military assured the coalition that they would not attack nearby coalition forces,” the statement said.

      According to Hassan, the attack began at around 22 p.m., and those supporting the formation regime began to move forward under the cover of salvos of tank and artillery shells, the shells of which were burst about 00 meters from those positions held by the Democratic forces of Syria and American soldiers. Hassan believes that these ground forces included several Russian soldiers who, in his opinion, are mercenaries (Officially, Russia does not have ground troops in Syria).

      The US Air Force responded to this threat with the devastating blows made by AC-130 (AC-130) and drones. According to the Pentagon, about 100 people were killed. According to Hassan, there were several Russians among the dead, probably from among the mercenaries fighting along with forces supporting the Syrian regime. The United States military has no casualties, and one fighter in the Syrian Democratic Forces was wounded.

      According to Hassan, in the midst of this bloody massacre, the Russian communications officer called him again and asked him to stop fighting for a while in order to take away the dead and wounded - during the offensive, which he denied. The Kurdish commander saw this as treachery. “We don’t trust Russians anymore,” Hassan said. And when one of the reporters noted the paradox of the situation - the Russian officer first denies the attack, and then asks for a ceasefire, - Hassan said: “It's funny that the superpower does not know what its forces on earth do.” Hassan believes that forces supporting the Syrian regime launched an offensive this week because “this regime thinks we are weak,” as the Syrian Democratic Forces sent their fighters north to fight the Turkish offensive in a region called Afrin.

      Successful hostilities were completed at approximately 5:30 in the morning. When we arrived there after about seven hours, this Kurdish commander was still in an agitated state due to the victory. He later led us through the front lines of the Democratic Forces of Syria, fighting the scattered remnants of Islamic State militants (a banned terrorist organization in Russia) east of Shaddadi.

      What can I say, summing up? The US military has demonstrated its overwhelming military superiority in the areas they control in eastern Syria. Supported by Russia forces paid dearly for their unprovoked and, it seems, treacherous attack. However, this incident also showed the fragility of the United States role in Syria, both politically and diplomatically.

      To understand this event, it is important to consider that next to the place where the offensive was launched, there is the rich Conoco oil and gas field, which was named after its former American owner. Fighters of the Syrian Democratic Forces recaptured him from the Islamic State last September and then guard him.

      The Wall Street Journal on September 25 last year reported that immediately after the seizure of this territory, the Kurds planned to use it as a "bargaining chip." Then one of the commanders of the Democratic forces of Syria said in an interview with the correspondent of this newspaper: "Our goal is to prevent the regime from seizing these oil fields, which will allow it to regain former control over the country."

      The Russian Ministry of Defense on Thursday issued an unconvincing statement stating that the aim of the attack was to prosecute Islamic state militants. This is complete nonsense, and the Russians undoubtedly understand this. Thanks to the actions of the coalition led by the United States, not a single Islamic state fighter has remained in this area. What are the United States doing there now? The Russian statement makes a characteristic argument - the US military “seize the country's economic assets”, and not just fight terrorists.

      The score is one zero in favor of the US military in the fight against Russian tactics involving the use of "green men", participation in which can be denied.
      1. +2
        13 February 2018 12: 32
        Quote: bane's jacket
        Not in a few minutes. That's what WP wrote about this and for some reason I trust her more than the Russian Defense Ministry.

        Yeah ... it's clear about the Malaysian Boeing you trust them more ... everything is clear
        1. +1
          13 February 2018 13: 48
          Quote: Scoun
          Quote: bane's jacket
          Not in a few minutes. That's what WP wrote about this and for some reason I trust her more than the Russian Defense Ministry.

          Yeah ... it's clear about the Malaysian Boeing you trust them more ... everything is clear

          Definitely more. Especially after the really unconvincing excuses of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation that "they were not there" (and the same Cossacks write that they were there and then), and after the allegations that there were 25 injured people and no one was killed (against a background of photos coffins), and hunting for the mythical "sleeping" group.
      2. +1
        13 February 2018 12: 57
        "The US Air Force responded to this threat with devastating blows,
        which made the attack aircraft "A – C – 130" ////

        This is what I had in mind - their raid and was a few minutes. And almost all the losses from them.
        A general deployment, battle, and then evacuation, of course, a few hours.
        In Russia, the bodies of soldiers killed in this tragic incident begin to arrive from Syria sad .
        And probably the wounded too. Soon there will be much more details.
        1. 0
          13 February 2018 13: 31
          Quote: voyaka uh
          "The US Air Force responded to this threat with devastating blows,
          which made the attack aircraft "A – C – 130" ////

          This is what I had in mind - their raid and was a few minutes. And almost all the losses from them.
          A general deployment, battle, and then evacuation, of course, a few hours.
          In Russia, the bodies of soldiers killed in this tragic incident begin to arrive from Syria sad .
          And probably the wounded too. Soon there will be much more details.

          What are they arriving at? Tell me.
          1. +1
            13 February 2018 15: 57
            you don’t vegetate? Aunt Tsilya, who was talking at the Tsoghala vogot seeds, said that her sister was arrogant, married a dvognik whose dweller lives on the younger brother-in-law of the daughter-in-law of the driver of the Deputy Minister of Agriculture, Ezgael, and so he carries bending bodies.
  18. 0
    13 February 2018 09: 48
    Quote: vladimirvn
    It seems the mattresses have crossed the red line. Ours began to die from their blows. Not intentionally, "not really military personnel," all these are details. If there will be no answer. That’s all. Write is gone. They will trample us. All this is dangerous. Highly.

    Mattresses a long time ago, back in the 20th century, crossed all the lines of all colors known in nature, but the current political leadership only “expresses concern”, and continues to “pretend” and “face”! In such cases, they usually say - nothing personal, only business. Here, on the contrary, there is a lot of personal, including business! sad
  19. 0
    13 February 2018 09: 50
    Quote: Lance
    if so, then the answer will be both.

    Who has decided, or will decide? winked
  20. +1
    13 February 2018 10: 12
    Quote: Muvka
    I also do not believe in hundreds of people and piles of technology. Even the Pentagon speaks of 100 dead, with the Syrians being the main base. But Strelkov and Murid do not care. 200-600.

    ---------------------------
    Well Duc horse-diving Buryats, special forces of the GRU, special operations forces, the Russian Guard has long been killed by Ukrainians. Only the Wagnerites remained.
    1. 9PA
      0
      13 February 2018 10: 22
      Why did the article indicate left wife children? Should I feel sorry for him?
  21. +2
    13 February 2018 10: 50
    Russian presidential candidate Grigory Yavlinsky demanded that Russian leader Vladimir Putin report on the members of the Wagner PMC who died in Syria.
    The Washington Post called the recent events in Syria "a deadly clash between Russian and American forces."

    “Meanwhile, contradictory comments have been received from Russian officials, from the denial of the incident to the cynical allegations that the state is not responsible for the fate of citizens contracted by private military companies. These statements are especially cynical in light of the fact that, according to to numerous media reports that have not been refuted by officials, the Wagner PMCs are training at the bases of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, receive military awards in the Kremlin and are essentially special units of the Russian military.
    Yavlinsky stated that the Kremlin is silent and that up to a thousand people were killed in Syria in early February, including several hundred civilians from Russian air strikes.

    "The lack of clear recognition on the part of the Russian leadership or an official refutation of the fact of the death of armed Russian citizens fighting in Syria -" fighters of private military companies "is, in our opinion, absolutely unacceptable. Statements about the state’s non-involvement in the activities of private military structures recall that how the authorities relieved themselves of responsibility for the death of the Russian military sent to the war in Chechnya and the Donbass, "he emphasized.
    The opposition leader also demanded an explanation of why Russian citizens are taking part in ground operations in Syria, despite statements by Putin and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu about the withdrawal of Russian armed forces from this country and that the civil war in Syria has ended.
    1. +3
      13 February 2018 11: 24
      Yavlinsky, as well as Zhirinovsky listen before March 18, do not respect yourself. since the operation is not consistent with morpho, then the response with morpho is coordinated “will not”
    2. 0
      13 February 2018 15: 59
      In Dagestan, in a day, they get finished from the igilas. Yalinsky urgently watch FSB briefings.
    3. 0
      13 February 2018 21: 47
      don’t put pressure on the corn, even the most ardent .... ts understand that the whole elite is cowardly, expressing only deep concern. So the expulsion of diplomats, the removal of flags, the Olympics and a blow to the Russians are links in one chain. PS how else the spirit had enough to pick up the Crimea .... what
  22. +1
    13 February 2018 11: 00
    Quote: alta
    Russian presidential candidate Grigory Yavlinsky demanded that Russian leader Vladimir Putin report on the members of the Wagner PMC who died in Syria.

    --------------------------------------
    Based on what? GDP as the commander in chief of the order did not give them. These people acted (if acted) under a commercial contract.
    1. +1
      13 February 2018 11: 58
      According to the Constitution, the replacement post of the President of Russia is solely responsible for foreign and domestic policy.
  23. +2
    13 February 2018 11: 19
    "And where does the president look?" © O. Henry "The Leader of the Redskins"
    Really!?
  24. 9PA
    +2
    13 February 2018 11: 28
    Quote: Lance
    Yavlinsky, as well as Zhirinovsky listen before March 18, do not respect yourself. since the operation is not consistent with morpho, then the response with morpho is coordinated “will not”

    What is the answer ??? to crap before the election?
    1. 0
      13 February 2018 11: 40
      the only question is: to whom?
      1. 0
        13 February 2018 12: 24
        Quote: Lance
        : to whom?


        liberal sect of worship america and am kukrainushki
  25. 9PA
    +1
    13 February 2018 11: 47
    Quote: Lance
    the only question is: to whom?

    Now any failures and sacrifices will be greatly swollen. It is either quieter than water below the grass, or a small victorious operation. Not capable of the second
  26. +3
    13 February 2018 12: 03
    Authorities recognize exactly as many dead as they will appear on social networks ...
  27. 0
    13 February 2018 12: 11
    Quote: Stas157
    We hope that this time we will not be cheated.

    Do you think something has changed this time?
  28. +1
    13 February 2018 12: 36
    Be that as it may, with the participation of the Chelters, the Americans demonstrated their readiness to maintain controlled territory. Moreover, these were not warning strikes, but immediately a fire to defeat. This is a serious incident even without the fact of the death of citizens of the Russian Federation, but the reaction to these events is rather sluggish, close to silence.
  29. +2
    13 February 2018 13: 57
    He was not a formal military man,
    added Averin.

    He could not have been, he began as an ordinary juvenile criminal teenager, such people were easily led to Limonov’s agitation, and now they are still sticking to Navalny.

    This is from the Twitter of this Averin (I can’t insert a screen, only a photo), on the photo of Ananyev and Sukhorad (the so-called "seaside partisan" who died during the storming of OMON in Ussuriysk) in Moscow in 2003 in a bunker.
    In fact, throwing into the network about hundreds of dead mythical “Wagnerites” in Syria (the news about the alleged death of Ananyev from this series) is actively lurking around our “non-living and shaking hands with the public”, as well as certain individuals like Girkin, El-Murid, etc., including and Averina with the National Bolsheviks. Unfortunately, our "Military Review" was drawn to them.
  30. 0
    13 February 2018 15: 33
    Quote: 9PA
    Quote: Lance
    Yavlinsky, as well as Zhirinovsky listen before March 18, do not respect yourself. since the operation is not consistent with morpho, then the response with morpho is coordinated “will not”

    What is the answer ??? to crap before the election?

    Who is this before? winked wink
    1. 9PA
      0
      13 February 2018 16: 02
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: 9PA
      Quote: Lance
      Yavlinsky, as well as Zhirinovsky listen before March 18, do not respect yourself. since the operation is not consistent with morpho, then the response with morpho is coordinated “will not”

      What is the answer ??? to crap before the election?

      Who is this before? winked wink

      Before the voter, no?
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  32. 0
    13 February 2018 15: 53
    Quote: Jack
    According to the Constitution, the replacement post of the President of Russia is solely responsible for foreign and domestic policy.

    --------------------------
    If the hooligans beat you on vacation in Antalya, then the president of the country also bears responsibility for this?
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  34. +4
    13 February 2018 16: 05
    To go nuts! What a ram the VO site has rolled into! Sucking up false throws from social networks and liberds is some kind of psakism. And not a single word about the position of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and its officials.
    I want to remind you of one axiom: To gain credibility for a long time, but quickly to shine.
    The military review has died, now it is a "military rumor-digest of social networks." Ugh! am
  35. 0
    13 February 2018 16: 10
    Quote: 9PA
    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: 9PA
    Quote: Lance
    Yavlinsky, as well as Zhirinovsky listen before March 18, do not respect yourself. since the operation is not consistent with morpho, then the response with morpho is coordinated “will not”

    What is the answer ??? to crap before the election?

    Who is this before? winked wink

    Before the voter, no?

    I correctly understood you that if Russia “answers”, then its citizens-voters will not understand the leadership, and will not support it in these actions? winked
  36. 0
    13 February 2018 17: 04
    If the Kurds are involved, then I do not envy them, and their situation is not so hot, which they are hammering on all sides, and they all hope for ..... those who do not keep their word.
    At the expense of the dead Russians, did anyone go to the funeral? the results of a medical death certificate, asked relatives? or saw and can provide? So far, only a lot, a lot of words from unreliable sources. But there is actually a war where people are constantly dying.
  37. +1
    13 February 2018 21: 11
    First American CNN Video [media = https: //www.facebook.com/CITeam.org/videos
    / 925536030932708 /]
  38. 0
    14 February 2018 01: 17
    In Latvia, the websites write that there are more than hundreds. And like Russia is silent, nothing can not
  39. 0
    14 February 2018 08: 49
    Does Vo have no more interesting topics? what good luck soldiers?
    They did not defend their homeland there. and squeezed the oil plant. built by the Americans, which was nationalized (squeezed) by Assad, and now returned to its rightful owners. They simply defended their property and any American court (and even London) will be on their side. And the fact that the operation was a failure. so this is a soldier of fortune and their command represents from a not very good side
  40. 9PA
    0
    14 February 2018 11: 11
    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: 9PA
    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: 9PA
    Quote: Lance
    Yavlinsky, as well as Zhirinovsky listen before March 18, do not respect yourself. since the operation is not consistent with morpho, then the response with morpho is coordinated “will not”

    What is the answer ??? to crap before the election?

    Who is this before? winked wink

    Before the voter, no?

    I correctly understood you that if Russia “answers”, then its citizens-voters will not understand the leadership, and will not support it in these actions? winked


    Winners are not judged, but only winners.
  41. 0
    14 February 2018 14: 25
    PPC-cool my comments cleaned up.
  42. 0
    14 February 2018 14: 26
    Quote: Thrall
    Well, at least one was recognized ...

    And who recognized ???? Official sources recognized? Or some psaki?
  43. 0
    14 February 2018 14: 27
    Quote: you Vlad
    Quote: Thrall
    Well, at least one was recognized ...

    Moscow region, what did it answer? Not a single soldier of the Russian Federation died there! And it's true! PMCs were created to promote national interests, without, so to speak, exposure (not officially)

    As it is, without exposure. PMCs are subordinate to the government. Fulfill the orders of the government of their country, there you have the exposure.
  44. 0
    14 February 2018 14: 28
    Quote: Dreamboat
    And what is it recognized? "Other Russia" is an anti-government paramilitary, and in fact a terrorist, organization. For whom this man fought, in which detachment - it is not clear. Could for ISIS. But obviously not as part of the Defense Ministry or MTR.
    PMCs PMCs are different, there are those who work for state. contract (the same Black Waters), there are generally in fact gangs or individual mercenaries. So before you judge, you need to understand who and where this dead from. Yes, and "was there a boy?"

    Yes. If PMCs are not subordinate to the government of their country, that means bandits, organized crime groups, illegal armed formations. And the government must liquidate them.
  45. 0
    14 February 2018 14: 34
    Quote: midivan
    Quote: Bronevick
    That is, Russia can hire American PMCs?

    In principle, yes, but if the Amer authorities allow this. Why do you need PMCs, I’ll try to explain approximately. Such a company is being created to solve the country's power problems without declaring war. For example, Ukraine, if our regular troops are brought in there, it will be regarded as an act of aggression of an entire country and a declaration of war, sort of according to international law, and PMCs do what we need while the country does not participate in hostilities, since this is a private office and works for hire supposedly the same LDNR, can be presented to the office. but not the country. something like this approximately, and they came up with this if my partners are not mistaken from behind a puddle smile And at the moment, Russia can hire Black Water, but only the “opposition” if they stir up the war, in the interests of the owners of PMCs, that is, the Americans will send us their fighters, but they will show ours in front of us, request I don’t understand yours, our army is in place, and who you understand yourself, and since the PMC soldier has no rights, he remains on his own and without official support of the country he serves.

    Are you out of your mind ?? !! ?? Think about it yourself, what did you write !!!
    Why do you need PMCs, I’ll try to explain approximately. Such a company is being created to solve the country's power problems without declaring war. For example, Ukraine, if our regular troops enter there, it will be regarded as an act of aggression of a whole country and a declaration of war, sort of according to international law, and PMCs do what we need while the country does not participate in hostilities, since this is a private office and works for hire supposedly the same LDNR, can be presented to the office, but not to the country.

    What nonsense ????????????? !!!!!!!! And the office to whom obeys ???????????? To the government of the country !!!!!!!! This is where the country and its government can be presented. PMC whose is yours ?? - Yours. The customer is you ?? - You. That's all presenting !! What nonsense are you writing ????????????
    Such a company is being created to solve the country's power problems without declaring war. For example, Ukraine, if our regular troops enter there, it will be regarded as an act of aggression of a whole country and a declaration of war, sort of according to international law, and PMCs do what we need while the country does not participate in hostilities, since this is a private office

    How is this not participating in the war ???If PMCs are introduced there, PMCs will be regarded as an act of aggression of the country, because PMCs are subordinate to the government of the country and carry out their orders! It’s just that you introduced a small contingent of troops — PMCs. Because you changed the name of the troops, the essence does not change — you name them at least God's dandelion, at least Artek children's camp — the essence of the name does not change — they carry out military operations on orders government of the country. When the government sends PMCs, this means the country is participating in hostilities and these military operations are carried out by PMCs on the orders of the government.
    You are confused and do not see the elementary!
    Why even invent all these PMCs and American names to take ??? For this, there are intelligence saboteurs.
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      14 February 2018 15: 02
      Why even invent all these PMCs and American names to take ??? For this, there are intelligence saboteurs.
      Me, it’s just infuriating this imitation of the blind USA and Americanism!
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      14 February 2018 15: 48
      Vote for Putin! What does the sternum have to do with it?
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