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Kiev put forward proposals on the number and countries of origin of peacekeepers in the Donbass

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Former NATO leader, presidential adviser Petro Poroshenko, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, will present a report on the UN peacekeeping mission in Donbas at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.


According to the Rasmussen report, the UN should consider participating in a mission around 20 thousand troops and 4 thousand policemen from non-NATO countries, reports Reuters.

Kiev put forward proposals on the number and countries of origin of peacekeepers in the Donbass


The operation will require the participation of some European countries - for example, Sweden, countries with experience in peacekeeping - such as Brazil, and countries that Russia trusts - for example, Belarus
- UN expert at Columbia University Richard Gowan.

It is reported that some diplomats and experts have declared a contingent in 50 thousand people needed to participate in resolving the conflict in the east of Ukraine. According to Gowen, this is not a very real scenario, given that Moscow is likely to be against so many military men.

In November, it became known that the United States decided to offer Russia a plan to deploy the 20 to thousands of peacekeepers in the Donbas.

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that he supported the idea of ​​sending UN peacekeepers to Ukraine, but this can only be a safety function of the OSCE staff. Kiev believes that the UN mission should have a broader mandate and be located throughout the territory of Donbass up to the border with Russia. Kiev also rejects the possibility of direct negotiations with the militias.
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  1. Russia
    Russia 12 February 2018 17: 26
    +31
    Swedes broom in the ass, let them not be distracted, but look for our submarines.
    1. Inquisitive
      Inquisitive 12 February 2018 17: 29
      +19
      The question itself is ridiculous. It is as if a woman with low social responsibility has appointed partners for herself. Ours should insist that peacekeepers be from Honduras and place them in Western Ukraine, even if Honduras
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. cniza
          cniza 12 February 2018 17: 47
          +4
          It is reported that some diplomats and experts announced the contingent of 50 thousand people needed to participate in the settlement of the conflict in eastern Ukraine.


          Dreaming is not harmful, but even for the UN it will be costly.
          1. demo
            demo 12 February 2018 18: 00
            +5
            Offer those who wish to participate in the peacekeeping mission to provide all their military personnel with all necessary at their own expense.
            Wishing to sharply decrease.
            Or maybe not. Generally.
          2. vlad66
            vlad66 12 February 2018 18: 02
            +17
            Quote: cniza
            Dreaming is not harmful, but even for the UN it will be costly

            Let them not think of dreaming Victor drinks I feel the veto right will be applied and the howl of Ukrainians will be heard for a long time in Europe.
            1. cniza
              cniza 12 February 2018 18: 14
              +5
              Well, let them carefully analyze your joke, otherwise their peacekeepers inadvertently. lol
      2. Sofa expert
        Sofa expert 12 February 2018 17: 42
        +4
        Better to hobble in Honduras than Honduras to =)
      3. Vita vko
        Vita vko 12 February 2018 18: 50
        +5
        Quote: Inquisitive
        The question itself is ridiculous.

        The normal setting, if you follow the logic of peacekeeping operations, then you need to deploy peacekeepers not on the territory of the LPR who never conducted offensive military operations, but on the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk occupied by the troops of the Kiev junta. It is this territory that belongs to the ATO zone, according to Kiev terminology, and introducing UN peacekeeping units instead of the APU there will be an ideal option for a long-term ceasefire.
    2. Dimontius
      Dimontius 12 February 2018 17: 31
      +2
      Brazil, India, China and South Africa, well, France with Swedes from them ... then something would probably have happened.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 17: 36
        +8
        and place
        Kiev believes that the UN mission should have a broader mandate and be deployed throughout the Donbass all the way to the border with
        Poland
        1. Cutter
          Cutter 12 February 2018 17: 56
          +4
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          and place
          Kiev believes that the UN mission should have a broader mandate and be deployed throughout the Donbass all the way to the border with
          Poland

          a country that Russia trusts - for example, Belarus

          They will, if they provide a mandate, they will be !!! But not less than 90% !!!
          And there, our guys will “stir RIGHT” national ideas, if they still don’t understand ...
          hi
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 18: 19
            +7
            Quote: Cutter
            there our guys will "RIGHT" CORRECT national ideas

            and as I understand it will be exciting
            1. Cutter
              Cutter 12 February 2018 18: 26
              +3
              hi Maybe it’s like ... Yes, our guys are kind, they only do not like "nationalists" ... wink
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 18: 31
                +6
                Quote: Cutter
                Yes our guys are good

                I’m never in doubt about kindness
      2. Hammerlock
        Hammerlock 12 February 2018 17: 45
        +1
        and France from which side? She is a member of NATO
        https://www.nato.int/cps/ru/natohq/topics_52044.h
        tm (though there is some kind of jamb with Poland)
        http://www.perspektivy.info/book/vozvrashhenije_f
        rancii_v_nato_debaty_i_posledstvija_2009-04-25.ht
        m
      3. Lexus
        Lexus 12 February 2018 19: 22
        0
        Only not the Swedes, but then some kind of "Swedish family" will be. lol
    3. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 12 February 2018 17: 33
      +11
      Swedes broom in the ass
      Swedes to the places of their military glory - near Poltava. Nekhay from there peacemaking. In addition to Belarusians, there is nothing for anyone to do there - otherwise it may end in a big schucher
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 17: 53
        +9
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        In addition to Belarusians, there is nothing for anyone to do there - otherwise it may end in a big schucher

        and what do you want from Belarusians? catch banderlog again in the woods?
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 12 February 2018 18: 02
          +5
          and what do you want from Belarusians?
          Well, one language, a cultural code, a priori will not be hurt because of ignorance, and so on, so it's an ideal option, and the Ukrainians themselves will catch the banderlogs over time as soon as the turbidity in the brains is teased (I hope)
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 18: 34
            +9
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            Well, one language,

            here you are fundamentally wrong, I understand them, and they, in general, I had a case in the late 90s in Vinnitsa, they began to speak only Ukrainian - I switched to Belarusian, in the end - agreed on Russian laughing
            1. KVU-NSVD
              KVU-NSVD 12 February 2018 18: 40
              +5
              here you are fundamentally wrong, I understand them, and they, in general, I had a case in the late 90s in Vinnitsa, they began to speak only Ukrainian - I switched to Belarusian, in the end - agreed on Russian laughing
              Come on, I was dealing with the Serbs, and that without any problems. Although you are right - you can always agree in Russian ..
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 18: 50
                +5
                Quote: KVU-NSVD
                you can always agree in Russian ..

                and all the nuances are clear
                1. KVU-NSVD
                  KVU-NSVD 12 February 2018 19: 00
                  +6
                  and all the nuances are clear
                  Local moonshine, salsa, boiled bulb, but under a pickle and removes all the nuances at a glance .... And the soulful conversation, like Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, ceases to be incomprehensible .. And they are trying to suck us with the Brazilians ... dbb ... laughing
                  1. Angel_and_Demon
                    Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 19: 04
                    +6
                    Quote: KVU-NSVD
                    Local moonshine

                    oh, have you tried their mug
                    1. KVU-NSVD
                      KVU-NSVD 12 February 2018 19: 10
                      +5
                      oh, have you tried their mug
                      In the sense of beet moonshine? What I have not tried laughing In the field, not up to the frills. The main thing is that in the nearest village Aborigines do not hold the pervachka laughing And then they try to put such a sivuha on .. repeat repeat
    4. Terenin
      Terenin 12 February 2018 17: 35
      +12
      They (Swedes) know that our submarines are now at the Olympics laughing
    5. demo
      demo 12 February 2018 17: 58
      +3
      And to name the Swedish squad in the name of Ivan Stepanovich Mazepa, in gratitude for the services previously rendered to him by the Swedish crown.
      1. dog breeder
        dog breeder 12 February 2018 19: 33
        +2
        demo Today, 17:58 ↑ New
        And to name the Swedish squad in the name of Ivan Stepanovich Mazepa, in gratitude for the services previously rendered to him by the Swedish crown.

        And to the guides of another Ivan - Susanin!
    6. 210ox
      210ox 12 February 2018 18: 13
      +1
      You can attract. To Poltava. Mow the lawns.
      Quote: Rusland
      Swedes broom in the ass, let them not be distracted, but look for our submarines.
  2. assa67
    assa67 12 February 2018 17: 27
    +8
    again, the Yugoslav scenario is proposed, instead of putting a muzzle on banderlogs, it is necessary to introduce peacekeepers to the territory of dill itself, and not to Donbass soldier
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 12 February 2018 17: 34
      +4
      Quote: assa67
      again, the Yugoslav scenario is proposed, instead of putting a muzzle on banderlogs, it is necessary to introduce peacekeepers to the territory of dill itself, and not to Donbass soldier


      Not for that they turned the whole country in order to include the back.

      PS The Yugoslav scenario will not be here, it will most likely be Kosovo but in the other direction.
      1. assa67
        assa67 12 February 2018 17: 39
        +4
        it means that there will again be a "veto" in the UN Security Council (I do not want to denote this desk in capital letters), and everything will be back to square one ...
        1. 210ox
          210ox 12 February 2018 18: 15
          +1
          I’m afraid that I won’t be left behind. I don’t exclude that the Kremlin will still be squeezed.
          Quote: assa67
          it means that there will again be a "veto" in the UN Security Council (I do not want to denote this desk in capital letters), and everything will be back to square one ...
          1. assa67
            assa67 12 February 2018 18: 32
            +3
            I don’t want to think that we’ll bend again, Dim, as much as possible already .... and the introduction of “independent”, which in itself is a fiction, peacekeepers automatically give a full-scale war. A couple of provocations from the side of banderlogs, you’ll get accusations of this by the LDNR, sign ...
          2. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 12 February 2018 18: 37
            +4
            Quote: 210ox
            I do not exclude that the Kremlin will still be squeezed.

            the Kremlin can only squeeze their nouveau riche, from the list, who are afraid for their own not acquired, and so no more than request
  3. svp67
    svp67 12 February 2018 17: 28
    +7
    Former NATO leader, presidential adviser Petro Poroshenko, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, will present a report on the UN peacekeeping mission in Donbas at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.
    Well done, now it remains to hear the same list from LDNR and compare them ... Otherwise, this is a violation of the UN foundations
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 12 February 2018 17: 36
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Former NATO leader, presidential adviser Petro Poroshenko, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, will present a report on the UN peacekeeping mission in Donbas at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.
      Well done, now it remains to hear the same list from LDNR and compare them ... Otherwise, this is a violation of the UN foundations


      And why am I sure that the lists will not match ??? )
      1. svp67
        svp67 12 February 2018 17: 42
        0
        Quote: Geisenberg
        And why am I sure that the lists will not match ??? )

        Well, why, maybe somewhere there will be coincidences ... For example: Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, Jordan, Nepal, Ethiopia, Uruguay, Ghana, Nigeria and South Africa, These are the main suppliers of armed units for UN peacekeeping missions.
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 13 February 2018 00: 19
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Well done, now it remains to hear the same list from LDNR and compare them ... Otherwise, this is a violation of the UN foundations

      A list from the EU is already being prepared. True, the opinion of Ukraine is no longer taken into account.

      The other day, within the framework of the European Commission, the first meeting of the recently created informal working group of representatives of EU countries was held with the involvement of secret services and ministries of defense on the future structure of Ukraine. Link to the source:
      http://novo24.ru/doc/109678_dojdalis_v_evrokomiss
      ii_proshlo_zakrytoe_zasedanie ..._ po_razdely_ykrai
      ny.html
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 13 February 2018 07: 59
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Former NATO leader, presidential adviser Petro Poroshenko, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, will present a report on the UN peacekeeping mission in Donbas at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.
      Well done, now it remains to hear the same list from LDNR and compare them ... Otherwise, this is a violation of the UN foundations

      And who is LDNR adviser? So you need to connect too. And then Rasmussen, Rasmussen.
  4. Irek
    Irek 12 February 2018 17: 33
    +4
    It will end with this ...
  5. ded100
    ded100 12 February 2018 17: 39
    +3
    Why would the peacekeepers disperse the Natsik and Petka with their comrades to condemn and the world will come no peacekeepers from Honduras will not have to! am
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 14 February 2018 10: 04
      0
      Quote: ded100
      and petka with friends to condemn

      I strongly suspect that "bullies will deprive them of them there."
  6. bald
    bald 12 February 2018 17: 43
    +3
    --- "... Why in the square, you can’t make love? --- --- They won’t give - there are many advisers." So here, what the hell, this overseas adviser, in a strange garden, will advise. Even a UN sales organization will not help. It’s not up to them to decide.
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 12 February 2018 17: 48
    +1
    Remove this stupid Kiev, and in the Donbass everything will be decided by itself. These Ukrainian loafers are just stupidly trolling us, but what are we doing now, how could it be without this? Ukrainian statehood, yes. Better savages to use a fork to teach, figuratively. And then everything in her nose is picked, and they won’t understand why there are two nostrils, and there are four at the end of the plug.
  8. K-50
    K-50 12 February 2018 17: 51
    +3
    Well, it seems to me that you first need to clear the left bank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, to the Dnieper, then Odessa is definitely a Russian city. He founded Count Potemkin, ukrov was not there then, they were making noise somewhere. Only then can you still think /, for example, Belarus and Kazakhstan will completely cope with the functions of peacekeepers. there is nothing to run the rest of the goats into the garden; yes
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 February 2018 18: 04
      +1
      Quote: K-50
      Well, it seems to me that you first need to clear the left bank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, to the Dnieper, then Odessa is definitely a Russian city. He founded Count Potemkin, ukrov was not there then, they were making noise somewhere. Only then can you still think /, for example, Belarus and Kazakhstan will completely cope with the functions of peacekeepers. there is nothing to run the rest of the goats into the garden; yes

      How nice to be a "general." Do you have specific plans for your "strategic" proposals?
      1. K-50
        K-50 12 February 2018 18: 07
        +2
        What kind of sofa do you have for a long time? what
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 12 February 2018 18: 10
          0
          Quote: K-50
          What kind of sofa do you have for a long time? what

          I did not collect it, but yours took a picture.
          1. K-50
            K-50 12 February 2018 18: 13
            +2
            Quote: Piramidon
            I did not collect it, but yours took a picture.

            Yes, you find yourself in other people's apartments rummaging around and without demand. Ay-yai-yay, how not decent. request negative Only it seems to me you are pushing your apartment for mine, why would it? what
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 12 February 2018 18: 23
              +1
              Quote: K-50
              Yes, you find yourself in other people's apartments rummaging around and without demand.

              I didn’t go to your apartment, I visited only Google Maps. Didn't you hear that the great and terrible GOOGLE is watching you through your webcam. Seal it urgently with BLACK electrical tape. laughing
  9. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 12 February 2018 17: 55
    +6
    Well, they will stand on the demarcation line, look at Svidomo pigs, eat brandy and spit on the ceiling, because they will not be allowed to go anywhere else.
  10. Jack
    Jack 12 February 2018 18: 12
    0
    Putin agreed to deploy UN peacekeepers throughout the Donbass: https://lenta.ru/news/2017/09/11/miritvoretz/
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 12 February 2018 19: 52
      +1
      Nice hutspa. Petty
  11. Chichikov
    Chichikov 12 February 2018 18: 21
    +3
    Kiev also rejects the possibility of direct negotiations with militias.
    And how then will they introduce "their" peacekeepers? So what!
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 12 February 2018 19: 20
      0
      There you need to bring a match to the lower "nozzle" lol
  12. Bosch
    Bosch 12 February 2018 18: 37
    +1
    Kuev, let him return $ 3 from the beginning.
  13. Kent0001
    Kent0001 12 February 2018 18: 37
    0
    20 thousand bayonets is all LDNR on the territory, but this is unacceptable to us (or was unacceptable) ?????
  14. Dormidont
    Dormidont 12 February 2018 19: 50
    +1
    In order for the discussion of this drug addictive universal nonsense to proceed in a constructive manner, Zhirinovsky should participate in the negotiations
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 14 February 2018 13: 40
      0
      Quote: Dormidont
      Zhirinovsky should participate in the negotiations

      wassat With a glass of juice. Without juice - it’s not like Zhirinovsky anymore.
  15. LeonidL
    LeonidL 12 February 2018 20: 41
    0
    Wait and see. To whom and where, why are blue helmets needed? Kiev to repeat Yugoslav affairs. Donbass - do not need Russia -?
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 12 February 2018 20: 51
    +1
    The mechanism of peacekeepers itself does not work, or rather, it works selectively. A lot of scandals with peacekeepers in Africa, direct surrender in Yugoslavia and where such confidence that this mechanism will work in the Donbass. As long as there is only one and ultimate goal - the capture of Donbass. Yes, this is not the formation of a society on new principles, this is an old "good" absorption on the principles of Banderism. Western countries have not pulled Ukraine
  17. ronnon
    ronnon 12 February 2018 21: 34
    0
    In the wake of the "peacekeepers" NATO troops will crawl there, make a provocation, something like the death of the "peacekeepers"
    And they will invade under the pretext of a police operation, as they invade the territory of other countries.
    1. Looking for
      Looking for 12 February 2018 22: 26
      -1
      Think right.
  18. prior
    prior 13 February 2018 08: 54
    0
    Peacekeepers should be located on the Ukrainian-Polish border, and then it will begin soon .... Bandera, on the one hand, the fifth column of Ukrainian migrant workers with colas from Poland ... Next, millions of migrants ... Think Europe ..... and it will be w ..
  19. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 13 February 2018 12: 40
    -1
    The fact is that as soon as these "helmets" are placed in the Donbass
    firstly, they will climb all over the territory and near the border with Russia in the first place.
    Secondly - if these "Swedes" climb, then it will not be easy to drive them out.
    I think that we are again “shod” as with the CSCE mission - they thought that they would help to establish peace, and they are engaged in fraud and cover for ukrobandits.
    P.S. I am afraid that, as in Yugoslavia, these "helmets" will only be a cover for ukronatsists.