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Named the reason for the cancellation of the launch of the "Union-2.1"

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Failure to signal through a faulty electrical connector to the on-board central computer system (BTsVS) could have led to the automatic cancellation of the launch of the launch vehicle engines with the Progress MS-08 cargo vehicle to the ISS, reports RIA News message source in the space industry.


Named the reason for the cancellation of the launch of the "Union-2.1"


The problem could arise due to the failure of the signal through the faulty electrical connector. To detect it, most likely, you will have to shoot bcws. To “call out” all electrical circuits is a long thing, to replace the entire unit more quickly, which is very likely to be done,
told the source.

Earlier in Roskosmos reported that the launch of the rocket was postponed to the backup date - February 13. Ship for the first time in stories I had to get to the ISS by a new shortened double-turn scheme in 3,5 hours.

According to the interlocutor, “if the Soyuz can start 13 in February at all, then the MS-08 Progress will most likely be sent to the station using the usual two-day scheme instead of the planned ultra-short in 3,5 hours.”

He explained that "ballistic flight conditions to the ISS on Tuesday will be different than on Sunday," when the start canceled the automation.

To use the ultrashort scheme, "it is necessary that the International Space Station be in the correct orbit from the point of view of ballistics," the source added.

Currently, the fastest way to get on the ISS is through the 4-turn scheme. It was first implemented in 2012, with the launch of the Progress cargo ship.
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CC "Yuzhny" / TSENKI / ROSKOSMOS
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  1. siberalt
    siberalt 12 February 2018 14: 56
    +4
    Shaw, again the ends are mixed up? belay
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 12 February 2018 15: 06
      +15
      Okay, at least on the ground, not in the air, they discovered.
      1. dSK
        dSK 12 February 2018 15: 28
        0
        Soon it will be necessary to increase the number of launch of “trucks” on the ISS: "According to the publication The Washington Post, The White House does not intend to abandon the orbital station. However, he intends to bring her to the private sector. "NASA will expand international and commercial partnerships over the next seven years so that to provide continuous access to people and their presence in low Earth orbit, " - the official statement says. By the way, we note that NASA is currently studying ISS extension to 2028.
        Roscosmos also recently voiced the idea of ​​a "space hotel."
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 12 February 2018 16: 52
          +2
          Well, the trucks on the ISS are already flying decently.
          This year, Kounotori-7 will load as much as 6470kg and launch, there will be a record delivery.
          Plus 2 Tsingusa from Orbital fly.
          Plus Musk will also send 5 trucks this year + unmanned Dragon2 will also load up various useful ones.

          Progress on the 3 plan this year and it is somewhere in the 1 / 4 area of ​​the total volume of deliveries.
    2. evil partisan
      evil partisan 12 February 2018 15: 43
      +4
      Quote: siberalt
      Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?

      In electricity, it is like: either there is contact where it should not be, or there is no contact where it should be. yes paradox, in short, complete, and not electrical engineering .... sad
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 12 February 2018 15: 55
        +3
        I don’t know about electrical engineering, and electronics is the science of contacts. So said my teacher. smile
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 12 February 2018 16: 03
          +3
          Quote: Igor V
          and electronics is the science of contacts.

          what
          Those. it turns out that in vain I studied all kinds of "conduction zones" in the framework of the CTTT ... sad Those. did you just need to study contact theory?
          belay fool
          hi drinks
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 12 February 2018 18: 48
            +4
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Those. it turns out that in vain I studied all sorts of "conduction zones" in the framework of CTTT ... That is did you just need to study contact theory?

            And, especially, you in vain bother with all sorts of npn and pnp transitions. Life lived in vain. Everything was simpler. I cleaned the contacts with my skin and sleep soundly. good
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 13 February 2018 02: 34
              +1
              I cleaned the contacts with my skin and sleep soundly.

              Contacts? Sandpaper ??? Yes, I would personally shoot for such a perversion. wink And then how to write off alcohol? drinks
          2. Igor V
            Igor V 12 February 2018 21: 14
            0
            Contacts are different. He was engaged in some KOMKON-2, others in a dispensary. So the theory is also good to study. smile
        2. Good cat
          Good cat 12 February 2018 16: 17
          +1
          What? Where did you study?
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 12 February 2018 16: 32
            +1
            Quote: Good Cat
            What? Where did you study?

            USU, Physics Department 1980-85
            Quote: Good Cat
            What are the ends? Maybe start

            We also studied philosophy ... repeat
            drinks
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 12 February 2018 21: 42
        +2
        Quote: wicked partisan
        Quote: siberalt
        Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?

        In electricity, it is like: either there is contact where it should not be, or there is no contact where it should be. yes paradox, in short, complete, and not electrical engineering .... sad

        Like urologists and plumbers. It either flows where it is not necessary, or where it does not need to flow.
    3. Good cat
      Good cat 12 February 2018 16: 18
      0
      What are the ends? Maybe start laughing
    4. starogil
      starogil 12 February 2018 17: 20
      +2
      Degradation, six more of these years and the Vostochny spaceport can be sown
      soybeans, stop paying Kazakhstan for the rent of Baikonur and so on ......
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 12 February 2018 17: 45
        +2
        Quote: starogil
        Degradation

        Amen. sad crying
        Quote: starogil
        Vostochny spaceport can be sown

        Offer hemp. yes All fattening is ready to send you. yes
  2. avt
    avt 12 February 2018 14: 59
    +5
    Well, that's fine.
    Quote: siberalt
    Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?

    You can’t imagine what craftsmen were at one time! At times ,, mom "with ,, mom" was connected and the highest ,, aerobatics "- ,, dad" with ,, dad. " bully Automation .. cybernetics ... resting! bully
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 February 2018 15: 07
      +4
      In the SR provides "protection from the fool." On the "mother" external thread, on the "father" internal (nut). Connect fails.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 12 February 2018 15: 31
        +10
        Ha ... We take a thin wire and electrical tape. Blue. Half an hour of work and everything is connected. wassat
      2. 210ox
        210ox 12 February 2018 15: 36
        +2
        Yes, you laugh. Protection from the fool !? They are crooked-handed and everyone can .. Shove. Remember the story with the sensors?
        Quote: Piramidon
        In the SR provides "protection from the fool." On the "mother" external thread, on the "father" internal (nut). Connect fails.
        1. Good cat
          Good cat 12 February 2018 16: 30
          +7
          It’s good to do stuffing and to bring nonsense to the masses of the generation. The cables for assembling the object come packaged, with ShEeRs soldered at the ends, filled with compounds, all have acceptance 5. Each cable has its own unique marking with a decimal number. The cable length is strictly regulated, cable plugs and lugs are selected so that in the braid and cable bundle you will not find any connector that is wrong at the wrong address. This is the protection against the fool. Problems could be lost if the compound suddenly withered and pulled a vein into a hidden gap. But usually everything is tested at three levels and drive up to 24 G on a vibrating stand
          1. region58
            region58 12 February 2018 23: 31
            0
            Quote: Good Cat
            5 acceptance

            It seems that for such cases, the acceptance of "9" put? Not?
      3. avt
        avt 12 February 2018 15: 58
        +1
        Quote: Piramidon
        Connect fails.

        How it turns out! It’s not like that, it’s for you everyone, who at least once was at the start, who drank moose on the court " bully he will say. And what is “fool ruf” in practice Barmin told us at lectures that V.P.
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        But here is the “mother” with the “mother” ... Here you can’t do without pliers!

        bully So everyone was fucked up at the sight of the work of a newly-minted specialist.: Guys after a business trip could not move a month. bully
    2. evil partisan
      evil partisan 12 February 2018 15: 46
      +2
      Quote: avt
      and aerobatics - dad, with dad

      Well, "dad" with "dad" can still be connected (electrically) yes . But here is the "mom" with the "mom" ... what Here you can’t do without pliers! request
      1. 210ox
        210ox 12 February 2018 15: 59
        +2
        On production alone .... stupid drove "mother" to mother ".... I don’t know how. But I was able to disconnect the connectors in about twenty minutes. With the help of the same mother .. of Paris .. Mother of God ..
        Quote: wicked partisan
        Quote: avt
        and aerobatics - dad, with dad

        Well, "dad" with "dad" can still be connected (electrically) yes . But here is the "mom" with the "mom" ... what Here you can’t do without pliers! request
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 12 February 2018 16: 06
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          . the unintelligent drove "mom" to mom "

          "mom" ... to "mom" .. what
          No, I don’t understand .. request
          But “dad” on “dad” I myself pulled on for fun. yes
          1. Svarog51
            Svarog51 13 February 2018 02: 29
            +1
            What have you only been taught?
            "mom" ... to "mom" .. what
            No, I don’t understand ..

            A piece of wire of suitable diameter, well, or the right amount of nails and wire cutters. At the end of the assembly, connect everything with electrical tape, preferably blue. laughing
            Uso works like a um ... a sex shop pandal for women with a gay orientation. lol
            Tested in practice. good drinks
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan 15 February 2018 23: 36
              +1
              Quote: Svarog51
              What have you only been taught?

              what
              Apparently not that ... request recourse
              drinks
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 16 February 2018 06: 00
                +1
                Apparently not that ...

                Not an offset. request If they managed to connect “dad” with “dad”, then you were taught correctly. wink
                drinks
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 12 February 2018 16: 35
      +1
      Imagine, unfortunately. I am from the time that is now for the "Bologna" (by education) youth is already a "parallel world". winked
      50 years is enough to redo the ideology of the nation, and 100-200 years to re-learn the history and knowledge of their own ancestors and simplify into divine dogmas. Otherwise, there is nothing new of its own. This is how the world works. hi
    4. region58
      region58 12 February 2018 18: 25
      +6
      Quote: avt
      ,, mom "with ,, mom" was connected and the highest ,, aerobatics "- ,, dad" with ,, dad ".

      Quote: Wedmak
      We take a thin wire and electrical tape. Blue.

      "moms", "dads", electrical tape ... wimps! For a long time already rule universal connectors. Nanotechnology, however (if only they had not seen it at DARPA, they are stealing it!). wassat
    5. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 12 February 2018 21: 44
      +2
      Quote: avt
      Well, that's fine.
      Quote: siberalt
      Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?

      You can’t imagine what craftsmen were at one time! At times ,, mom "with ,, mom" was connected and the highest ,, aerobatics "- ,, dad" with ,, dad. " bully Automation .. cybernetics ... resting! bully

      And we have one pretzel, a self-tapping screw screwdriver on the reverse stroke managed to twist belay
  3. 210ox
    210ox 12 February 2018 14: 59
    +2
    They shoved the unshakable ... Tradition however ..
    1. assa67
      assa67 12 February 2018 15: 29
      +5
      Dima, welcome hi ... it didn’t fool well ... in the 80s near Krasnoyarsk a fighter
      Quote: 210ox
      They shoved the unwelcome ..
      when checking by KIPSom the S-75 missile on a cart .... I started the PRD ... I dragged 200 Kung Merths in the taiga .. tech calculation into dust .... so it got off easy
      1. 210ox
        210ox 12 February 2018 15: 38
        +2
        Andrei hi A stupid little thought gets richer. If he survives.
        Quote: assa67
        Dima, welcome hi ... it didn’t fool well ... in the 80s near Krasnoyarsk a fighter
        Quote: 210ox
        They shoved the unwelcome ..
        when checking by KIPSom the S-75 missile on a cart .... I started the PRD ... I dragged 200 Kung Merths in the taiga .. tech calculation into dust .... so it got off easy
        1. assa67
          assa67 12 February 2018 15: 45
          +4
          et yes yes .
          Quote: svp67
          Thanks to AUTOMATION and the people who created it for helping Roscosmos not to replenish the "ocean constellation of satellites"

          this is how much dough was not let down
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 February 2018 16: 52
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      They shoved the unshakable ... Tradition however ..

      Something people are fixated on the plug connectors. Most likely it’s not about “pushing”. If they say that you may have to change the block. then most likely the matter is in the circuit elements of this block itself. A resistor, a capacitor, a microcircuit flew ... No one is safe from this.
  4. Lexus
    Lexus 12 February 2018 15: 02
    0
    Signal failure through a faulty electrical connector to the on-board central computer system (BCSV)

    Chinese what are the connectors?
    1. 210ox
      210ox 12 February 2018 15: 08
      +2
      No, no .. Just hands are crooked.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 12 February 2018 15: 12
        +4
        I suppose, given how much some companies pay specialists, it is surprising that these “hands” do at least something. hi
        1. Good cat
          Good cat 12 February 2018 16: 22
          +2
          15700 plus a small bonus of 2400 rubles so that they do not die of hunger. I quit my job. Tired of promises of a great bright future.
  5. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 12 February 2018 15: 07
    0
    Well that noticed. And they did not postpone it for months, but only for a couple of days.
  6. kit88
    kit88 12 February 2018 15: 16
    0
    Well, take off the block, stick another one and high fly yourself. Or there are no specialists, but those who have a refusal cannot find
    1. Igor V
      Igor V 12 February 2018 15: 59
      0
      Well, that’s what they’re doing. But to get to the right block ... This machine is not intended for repair. request
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 12 February 2018 16: 57
      0
      Quote: kit88
      Well, take off the block, stick another one and high fly yourself

      After replacing the unit, you will need to make a full check of the entire system. And how long does it take, you know? You need to ask the specialists. request
  7. svp67
    svp67 12 February 2018 15: 22
    +2
    could be the reason automatic engine start cancellation
    Thanks to AUTOMATION and the people who created it for helping Roscosmos not to replenish the "ocean constellation of satellites"
  8. antiamerikan
    antiamerikan 12 February 2018 15: 50
    +2
    Th, someone again replaced gold with iron in solder?
  9. evil partisan
    evil partisan 12 February 2018 15: 50
    +1
    By and large, everything is correct. In my memory, there were cases when the test launches of the S-300 in KapYar were stopped (or rather did not start) due to newly discovered circumstances (defects) with the replacement of a rocket.
  10. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 12 February 2018 15: 55
    +1
    The problem could arise due to the signal not passing through the faulty electrical connector.
    Mom dad is to blame. Very symbolic!
  11. groks
    groks 12 February 2018 16: 30
    +1
    Despite all the defenses, SR can manage to cry out crookedly. But it will not work. And the tests will fail. As it will not work, if the contact is bad, which we are offered to believe. We cannot verify this, so we are just waiting for the continuation.
  12. Good cat
    Good cat 12 February 2018 16: 42
    +4
    In my memory, from an incorrect assembly there was such an erescu on the database. Vopschem cleaned out the mine under the bell, loaded the assembly of autonomy (received from the Khokhlopts of the Design Bureau south) at that time we had not yet made them three boilers and the Crimean parish. And as if with a stretch, they protected their partners. According to the new scheme, the mortar shot was changed to disperse in the mine. Notices were sent from the Design Bureau of Thermal Engineering to all participants about the replacement of switchgear circuits. Vopschem salozhu bastards - sent old equipment. And we, the hammers, without checking everything uprooted and collected. On the test, all the batteries at once slammed with smoke, that we already thought that the pencil was about to start on a visit to the partners' continent. I first saw how the installer from the top up jumped two meters beyond the barrier. But the safety belt pulled him back. Tyk, he starred on the site and once again from a place two meters out of the blue. Already without insurance.
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 12 February 2018 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: Good Cat
      According to the new scheme, the mortar shot was changed to disperse in the mine.

      belay
      So this is also a trend! request
      Quote: Good Cat
      the pencil was about to start on a visit to the continent of partners.
      wassat

      Five points for the story! good
      drinks
  13. alien308
    alien308 12 February 2018 18: 29
    +1
    Chinese or Ukrainian connectors? Somehow I ordered the connectors of ShR "Production Russia". Ukrainian came with their piece of paper. So after installation, self-falling apart. It turned out to be a lock washer of the wrong size. I had to tear my ass to urgently find Russian.
  14. meGrail
    meGrail 13 February 2018 01: 53
    0
    Better 10 times!
    Unfortunately, now Russia has few rights to make mistakes, gentlemen are just waiting to find an excuse to rivet their missiles at an accelerated pace and to defy Russian ones.
  15. Old26
    Old26 13 February 2018 14: 30
    0
    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
    In electricity, it is like: either there is contact where it should not be, or there is no contact where it should be

    This is sometimes called the "golden rule of electrical engineering"
    The presence of contact where it should not be and the absence of where it should be laughing

    Quote: Good Cat
    It’s good to do stuffing and to bring nonsense to the masses of the generation. The cables for assembling the object come packaged, with ShEeRs soldered at the ends, filled with compounds, all have acceptance 5. Each cable has its own unique marking with a decimal number. The cable length is strictly regulated, cable plugs and lugs are selected so that in the braid and cable bundle you will not find any connector that is wrong at the wrong address. This is the protection against the fool. Problems could be lost if the compound suddenly withered and pulled a vein into a hidden gap. But usually everything is tested at three levels and drive up to 24 G on a vibrating stand

    Write everything correctly. But sometimes even artificial intelligence is nothing compared to human stupidity.
    Remember how the collector "planted" the sensor on the "Proton" that collapsed several years ago