Named the reason for the cancellation of the launch of the "Union-2.1"

February 12 2018 55

Failure to signal through a faulty electrical connector to the on-board central computer system (BTsVS) could have led to the automatic cancellation of the launch of the launch vehicle engines with the Progress MS-08 cargo vehicle to the ISS, reports RIA News message source in the space industry.

Named the reason for the cancellation of the launch of the "Union-2.1"

The problem could arise due to the failure of the signal through the faulty electrical connector. To detect it, most likely, you will have to shoot bcws. To “call out” all electrical circuits is a long thing, to replace the entire unit more quickly, which is very likely to be done,

told the source.

Earlier in Roskosmos reported that the launch of the rocket was postponed to the backup date - February 13. Ship for the first time in stories I had to get to the ISS by a new shortened double-turn scheme in 3,5 hours.

According to the interlocutor, “if the Soyuz can start 13 in February at all, then the MS-08 Progress will most likely be sent to the station using the usual two-day scheme instead of the planned ultra-short in 3,5 hours.”

He explained that "ballistic flight conditions to the ISS on Tuesday will be different than on Sunday," when the start canceled the automation.

To use the ultrashort scheme, "it is necessary that the International Space Station be in the correct orbit from the point of view of ballistics," the source added.

Currently, the fastest way to get on the ISS is through the 4-turn scheme. It was first implemented in 2012, with the launch of the Progress cargo ship.

CC "Yuzhny" / TSENKI / ROSKOSMOS

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siberalt

+4

12 February 2018 14: 56

Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?
1. vlad66
  
  +15
  
  12 February 2018 15: 06
  
  Okay, at least on the ground, not in the air, they discovered.
  1. dSK
    
    0
    
    12 February 2018 15: 28
    
    Soon it will be necessary to increase the number of launch of “trucks” on the ISS: "According to the publication The Washington Post, The White House does not intend to abandon the orbital station. However, he intends to bring her to the private sector. "NASA will expand international and commercial partnerships over the next seven years so that to provide continuous access to people and their presence in low Earth orbit, " - the official statement says. By the way, we note that NASA is currently studying ISS extension to 2028.
    Roscosmos also recently voiced the idea of a "space hotel."
    1. donavi49
      
      +2
      
      12 February 2018 16: 52
      
      Well, the trucks on the ISS are already flying decently.
      This year, Kounotori-7 will load as much as 6470kg and launch, there will be a record delivery.
      Plus 2 Tsingusa from Orbital fly.
      Plus Musk will also send 5 trucks this year + unmanned Dragon2 will also load up various useful ones.
      
      Progress on the 3 plan this year and it is somewhere in the 1 / 4 area of the total volume of deliveries.
2. evil partisan
  
  +4
  
  12 February 2018 15: 43
  
  Quote: siberalt
  Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?
  
  In electricity, it is like: either there is contact where it should not be, or there is no contact where it should be. paradox, in short, complete, and not electrical engineering ....
  1. Igor V
    
    +3
    
    12 February 2018 15: 55
    
    I don’t know about electrical engineering, and electronics is the science of contacts. So said my teacher.
    1. evil partisan
      
      +3
      
      12 February 2018 16: 03
      
      Quote: Igor V
      and electronics is the science of contacts.
      
      Those. it turns out that in vain I studied all kinds of "conduction zones" in the framework of the CTTT ... Those. did you just need to study contact theory?
      1. Piramidon
        
        +4
        
        12 February 2018 18: 48
        
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Those. it turns out that in vain I studied all sorts of "conduction zones" in the framework of CTTT ... That is did you just need to study contact theory?
        
        And, especially, you in vain bother with all sorts of npn and pnp transitions. Life lived in vain. Everything was simpler. I cleaned the contacts with my skin and sleep soundly.
        
        Svarog51
        
        +1
        
        13 February 2018 02: 34
        
        I cleaned the contacts with my skin and sleep soundly.
        
        Contacts? Sandpaper ??? Yes, I would personally shoot for such a perversion. And then how to write off alcohol?
      2. Igor V
        
        0
        
        12 February 2018 21: 14
        
        Contacts are different. He was engaged in some KOMKON-2, others in a dispensary. So the theory is also good to study.
    2. Good cat
      
      +1
      
      12 February 2018 16: 17
      
      What? Where did you study?
      1. evil partisan
        
        +1
        
        12 February 2018 16: 32
        
        Quote: Good Cat
        What? Where did you study?
        
        USU, Physics Department 1980-85
        Quote: Good Cat
        What are the ends? Maybe start
        
        We also studied philosophy ...
  2. Vasyan1971
    
    +2
    
    12 February 2018 21: 42
    
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Quote: siberalt
    Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?
    
    In electricity, it is like: either there is contact where it should not be, or there is no contact where it should be. paradox, in short, complete, and not electrical engineering ....
    
    Like urologists and plumbers. It either flows where it is not necessary, or where it does not need to flow.
3. Good cat
  
  0
  
  12 February 2018 16: 18
  
  What are the ends? Maybe start
4. starogil
  
  +2
  
  12 February 2018 17: 20
  
  Degradation, six more of these years and the Vostochny spaceport can be sown
  soybeans, stop paying Kazakhstan for the rent of Baikonur and so on ......
  1. evil partisan
    
    +2
    
    12 February 2018 17: 45
    
    Quote: starogil
    Degradation
    
    Amen.
    Quote: starogil
    Vostochny spaceport can be sown
    
    Offer hemp. All fattening is ready to send you.
avt

+5

12 February 2018 14: 59

Well, that's fine.
Quote: siberalt
Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?

You can’t imagine what craftsmen were at one time! At times ,, mom "with ,, mom" was connected and the highest ,, aerobatics "- ,, dad" with ,, dad. " Automation .. cybernetics ... resting!
1. Piramidon
  
  +4
  
  12 February 2018 15: 07
  In the SR provides "protection from the fool." On the "mother" external thread, on the "father" internal (nut). Connect fails.
  1. Wedmak
    
    +10
    
    12 February 2018 15: 31
    
    Ha ... We take a thin wire and electrical tape. Blue. Half an hour of work and everything is connected.
  2. 210ox
    
    +2
    
    12 February 2018 15: 36
    
    Yes, you laugh. Protection from the fool !? They are crooked-handed and everyone can .. Shove. Remember the story with the sensors?
    Quote: Piramidon
    In the SR provides "protection from the fool." On the "mother" external thread, on the "father" internal (nut). Connect fails.
    1. Good cat
      
      +7
      
      12 February 2018 16: 30
      
      It’s good to do stuffing and to bring nonsense to the masses of the generation. The cables for assembling the object come packaged, with ShEeRs soldered at the ends, filled with compounds, all have acceptance 5. Each cable has its own unique marking with a decimal number. The cable length is strictly regulated, cable plugs and lugs are selected so that in the braid and cable bundle you will not find any connector that is wrong at the wrong address. This is the protection against the fool. Problems could be lost if the compound suddenly withered and pulled a vein into a hidden gap. But usually everything is tested at three levels and drive up to 24 G on a vibrating stand
      1. region58
        
        0
        
        12 February 2018 23: 31
        
        Quote: Good Cat
        5 acceptance
        
        It seems that for such cases, the acceptance of "9" put? Not?
  3. avt
    
    +1
    
    12 February 2018 15: 58
    
    Quote: Piramidon
    Connect fails.
    
    How it turns out! It’s not like that, it’s for you everyone, who at least once was at the start, who drank moose on the court " he will say. And what is “fool ruf” in practice Barmin told us at lectures that V.P.
    Quote: Angry Guerrilla
    But here is the “mother” with the “mother” ... Here you can’t do without pliers!
    
    So everyone was fucked up at the sight of the work of a newly-minted specialist.: Guys after a business trip could not move a month.
2. evil partisan
  
  +2
  
  12 February 2018 15: 46
  
  Quote: avt
  and aerobatics - dad, with dad
  
  Well, "dad" with "dad" can still be connected (electrically) . But here is the "mom" with the "mom" ... Here you can’t do without pliers!
  1. 210ox
    
    +2
    
    12 February 2018 15: 59
    
    On production alone .... stupid drove "mother" to mother ".... I don’t know how. But I was able to disconnect the connectors in about twenty minutes. With the help of the same mother .. of Paris .. Mother of God ..
    Quote: wicked partisan
    Quote: avt
    and aerobatics - dad, with dad
    
    Well, "dad" with "dad" can still be connected (electrically) . But here is the "mom" with the "mom" ... Here you can’t do without pliers!
    1. evil partisan
      
      +1
      
      12 February 2018 16: 06
      
      Quote: 210ox
      . the unintelligent drove "mom" to mom "
      
      "mom" ... to "mom" ..
      No, I don’t understand ..
      But “dad” on “dad” I myself pulled on for fun.
      1. Svarog51
        
        +1
        
        13 February 2018 02: 29
        
        What have you only been taught?
        "mom" ... to "mom" .. what
        No, I don’t understand ..
        
        A piece of wire of suitable diameter, well, or the right amount of nails and wire cutters. At the end of the assembly, connect everything with electrical tape, preferably blue.
        Uso works like a um ... a sex shop pandal for women with a gay orientation.
        Tested in practice.
        
        evil partisan
        
        +1
        
        15 February 2018 23: 36
        
        Quote: Svarog51
        What have you only been taught?
        
        Apparently not that ...
        
        Svarog51
        
        +1
        
        16 February 2018 06: 00
        
        Apparently not that ...
        
        Not an offset. If they managed to connect “dad” with “dad”, then you were taught correctly.
3. siberalt
  
  +1
  
  12 February 2018 16: 35
  
  Imagine, unfortunately. I am from the time that is now for the "Bologna" (by education) youth is already a "parallel world".
  50 years is enough to redo the ideology of the nation, and 100-200 years to re-learn the history and knowledge of their own ancestors and simplify into divine dogmas. Otherwise, there is nothing new of its own. This is how the world works.
4. region58
  
  +6
  
  12 February 2018 18: 25
  Quote: avt
  ,, mom "with ,, mom" was connected and the highest ,, aerobatics "- ,, dad" with ,, dad ".
  
  Quote: Wedmak
  We take a thin wire and electrical tape. Blue.
  
  "moms", "dads", electrical tape ... wimps! For a long time already rule universal connectors. Nanotechnology, however (if only they had not seen it at DARPA, they are stealing it!).
5. Vasyan1971
  
  +2
  
  12 February 2018 21: 44
  
  Quote: avt
  Well, that's fine.
  Quote: siberalt
  Shaw, again the ends are mixed up?
  
  You can’t imagine what craftsmen were at one time! At times ,, mom "with ,, mom" was connected and the highest ,, aerobatics "- ,, dad" with ,, dad. " Automation .. cybernetics ... resting!
  
  And we have one pretzel, a self-tapping screw screwdriver on the reverse stroke managed to twist
210ox

+2

12 February 2018 14: 59

They shoved the unshakable ... Tradition however ..
1. assa67
  
  +5
  
  12 February 2018 15: 29
  
  Dima, welcome ... it didn’t fool well ... in the 80s near Krasnoyarsk a fighter
  Quote: 210ox
  They shoved the unwelcome ..
  when checking by KIPSom the S-75 missile on a cart .... I started the PRD ... I dragged 200 Kung Merths in the taiga .. tech calculation into dust .... so it got off easy
  1. 210ox
    
    +2
    
    12 February 2018 15: 38
    
    Andrei A stupid little thought gets richer. If he survives.
    Quote: assa67
    Dima, welcome ... it didn’t fool well ... in the 80s near Krasnoyarsk a fighter
    Quote: 210ox
    They shoved the unwelcome ..
    when checking by KIPSom the S-75 missile on a cart .... I started the PRD ... I dragged 200 Kung Merths in the taiga .. tech calculation into dust .... so it got off easy
    1. assa67
      
      +4
      
      12 February 2018 15: 45
      
      et yes ...
      Quote: svp67
      Thanks to AUTOMATION and the people who created it for helping Roscosmos not to replenish the "ocean constellation of satellites"
      
      this is how much dough was not let down
2. Piramidon
  
  0
  
  12 February 2018 16: 52
  
  Quote: 210ox
  They shoved the unshakable ... Tradition however ..
  
  Something people are fixated on the plug connectors. Most likely it’s not about “pushing”. If they say that you may have to change the block. then most likely the matter is in the circuit elements of this block itself. A resistor, a capacitor, a microcircuit flew ... No one is safe from this.
Lexus

0

12 February 2018 15: 02

Signal failure through a faulty electrical connector to the on-board central computer system (BCSV)

Chinese what are the connectors?
1. 210ox
  
  +2
  
  12 February 2018 15: 08
  
  No, no .. Just hands are crooked.
  1. Lexus
    
    +4
    
    12 February 2018 15: 12
    
    I suppose, given how much some companies pay specialists, it is surprising that these “hands” do at least something.
    1. Good cat
      
      +2
      
      12 February 2018 16: 22
      
      15700 plus a small bonus of 2400 rubles so that they do not die of hunger. I quit my job. Tired of promises of a great bright future.
Archivist Vasya

0

12 February 2018 15: 07

Well that noticed. And they did not postpone it for months, but only for a couple of days.
kit88

0

12 February 2018 15: 16

Well, take off the block, stick another one and high fly yourself. Or there are no specialists, but those who have a refusal cannot find
1. Igor V
  
  0
  
  12 February 2018 15: 59
  
  Well, that’s what they’re doing. But to get to the right block ... This machine is not intended for repair.
2. Piramidon
  
  0
  
  12 February 2018 16: 57
  
  Quote: kit88
  Well, take off the block, stick another one and high fly yourself
  
  After replacing the unit, you will need to make a full check of the entire system. And how long does it take, you know? You need to ask the specialists.
svp67

+2

12 February 2018 15: 22

could be the reason automatic engine start cancellation
Thanks to AUTOMATION and the people who created it for helping Roscosmos not to replenish the "ocean constellation of satellites"
antiamerican

+2

12 February 2018 15: 50

Th, someone again replaced gold with iron in solder?
evil partisan

+1

12 February 2018 15: 50

By and large, everything is correct. In my memory, there were cases when the test launches of the S-300 in KapYar were stopped (or rather did not start) due to newly discovered circumstances (defects) with the replacement of a rocket.
sxfRipper

+1

12 February 2018 15: 55

The problem could arise due to the signal not passing through the faulty electrical connector.
Mom dad is to blame. Very symbolic!
groks

+1

12 February 2018 16: 30

Despite all the defenses, SR can manage to cry out crookedly. But it will not work. And the tests will fail. As it will not work, if the contact is bad, which we are offered to believe. We cannot verify this, so we are just waiting for the continuation.
Good cat

+4

12 February 2018 16: 42

In my memory, from an incorrect assembly there was such an erescu on the database. Vopschem cleaned out the mine under the bell, loaded the assembly of autonomy (received from the Khokhlopts of the Design Bureau south) at that time we had not yet made them three boilers and the Crimean parish. And as if with a stretch, they protected their partners. According to the new scheme, the mortar shot was changed to disperse in the mine. Notices were sent from the Design Bureau of Thermal Engineering to all participants about the replacement of switchgear circuits. Vopschem salozhu bastards - sent old equipment. And we, the hammers, without checking everything uprooted and collected. On the test, all the batteries at once slammed with smoke, that we already thought that the pencil was about to start on a visit to the partners' continent. I first saw how the installer from the top up jumped two meters beyond the barrier. But the safety belt pulled him back. Tyk, he starred on the site and once again from a place two meters out of the blue. Already without insurance.
1. evil partisan
  
  +1
  
  12 February 2018 17: 06
  
  Quote: Good Cat
  According to the new scheme, the mortar shot was changed to disperse in the mine.
  
  So this is also a trend!
  Quote: Good Cat
  the pencil was about to start on a visit to the continent of partners.
  
  Five points for the story!
alien308

+1

12 February 2018 18: 29

Chinese or Ukrainian connectors? Somehow I ordered the connectors of ShR "Production Russia". Ukrainian came with their piece of paper. So after installation, self-falling apart. It turned out to be a lock washer of the wrong size. I had to tear my ass to urgently find Russian.
meGrail

0

13 February 2018 01: 53

Better 10 times!
Unfortunately, now Russia has few rights to make mistakes, gentlemen are just waiting to find an excuse to rivet their missiles at an accelerated pace and to defy Russian ones.
Old26

0

13 February 2018 14: 30

Quote: Angry Guerrilla
In electricity, it is like: either there is contact where it should not be, or there is no contact where it should be

This is sometimes called the "golden rule of electrical engineering"
The presence of contact where it should not be and the absence of where it should be

Quote: Good Cat
It’s good to do stuffing and to bring nonsense to the masses of the generation. The cables for assembling the object come packaged, with ShEeRs soldered at the ends, filled with compounds, all have acceptance 5. Each cable has its own unique marking with a decimal number. The cable length is strictly regulated, cable plugs and lugs are selected so that in the braid and cable bundle you will not find any connector that is wrong at the wrong address. This is the protection against the fool. Problems could be lost if the compound suddenly withered and pulled a vein into a hidden gap. But usually everything is tested at three levels and drive up to 24 G on a vibrating stand

Write everything correctly. But sometimes even artificial intelligence is nothing compared to human stupidity.
Remember how the collector "planted" the sensor on the "Proton" that collapsed several years ago