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POF: Presidential elections are not exactly going to boycott 51% of Russians

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The Public Opinion Foundation (FOM) publishes the results of a poll that concerns the attitude of Russians towards the upcoming presidential elections. One of the questions of the sociological research concerned the willingness of respondents to take part in the voting for the March March 18 candidates.


The question itself sounded like this:
There are people who, for reasons of principle, refuse to participate in the voting, that is, they are boycotting the March 18 presidential election. Do you have such people or no such people among your acquaintances, friends, relatives? Or maybe you yourself decided to boycott these elections?


24% of respondents answered that there are such people, and only 5% said that they themselves would boycott the elections. Arguments from the citizens of the country who decided (when polling POF) do not go to the ballot boxes, as follows:
“Tired of enduring rudeness on the part of the authorities”, “we have already been chosen without us”, “it’s time to change everything”.

61% of respondents believe that among their friends there are no people who exactly intend to boycott the elections. At the same time 51% of respondents stated that they themselves do not intend to boycott the vote.

People say that the boycott of the elections does not solve the problems that “who, if not Putin,” and also “should choose the person who would rule the country”.

POF: Presidential elections are not exactly going to boycott 51% of Russians


Recall that the presidential election in Russia will be held 18 March. 8 candidates will participate. The list of candidates included in the bulletin today looks like this: Sergey Baburin, Pavel Grudinin, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Vladimir Putin, Ksenia Sobchak, Maxim Suraykin, Boris Titov, Grigory Yavlinsky.

Statistics of the previous presidential elections (2012) shows that as a result, 65,34% of registered voters came to the polls.
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  1. Firework
    Firework 12 February 2018 13: 49
    +34
    I will vote for anyone just not for the current government, a signal to the Kremlin that not everything is good in the country
    1. 210ox
      210ox 12 February 2018 13: 51
      +29
      But for anyone, do not. Think first. Of course there is an alternative to the current government.
      Quote: Salute
      I will vote for anyone just not for the current government, a signal to the Kremlin that not everything is good in the country
      1. Logall
        Logall 12 February 2018 14: 25
        +4
        Quote: 210ox
        Think first. There is certainly an alternative to the current government.

        Dmitry, but in various matters the percentage jumps ... Here is one example of one social network:
        1. _MaX_
          _MaX_ 12 February 2018 15: 02
          +9
          I definitely need to change something. The fact that under Putin from 2001 to the present there have been positive changes is understandable. Only one thing is not clear - Who are WE (I mean Russia). It seems like democracy, but it seems not democracy, socialism? no, no ideology ..... maybe a monarchy? No, not a monarchy. So who? What we are, is not clear. There is no debugged mechanism for the transfer of power. But because there is no one to transmit. 100500 lots of different types and subspecies, who have something sensible in their head, and who have frank slops. There is no system as such. She is not stupidly lined up. But because no one did it. I had to postpone this moment until the day after tomorrow, since the crisis of the 2000s was not before. They built a vertical line so that the country would not fall apart and put Putin in prison. Well, something like a couple there steers, fine. Well, actually the fear of change among the people (sometimes justified in places) has led to the fact that we have some kind of democracy but some kind of monarchy. Moreover, no ideology. And what is ideology - is the ability to see the end result, here is our path, here we go. Today it is not clear who we are and where we are going.

          PS
          For example, how the system is built in the States. Two parties. Both are democratic (currents are called differently). Yes, with different cockroaches in my head, but they clearly know who they are and where they are going. And in the USA, such a situation simply cannot arise - For a presidential candidate! In the pre-election speech! Voiced that there, for example - I will give Alaska to Russia. But such a situation is possible for us. I'm sorry.
      2. Don
        Don 12 February 2018 19: 15
        +15
        Quote: 210ox
        But for anyone, do not. Think first. Of course there is an alternative to the current government

        Yesterday I watched the news of the week in Russia1. This is something with something. In the worst traditions of Sergei Dorenko, only one candidate was abused in the 90's - Pavel Nikolayevich Grudinin. After watching all this Kiselev dump, yesterday I decided for myself, I would definitely go to the polls and vote for Grudinin.
    2. Vend
      Vend 12 February 2018 13: 59
      +26
      Quote: Salute
      I will vote for anyone just not for the current government, a signal to the Kremlin that not everything is good in the country

      And I will vote for Putin. I don’t want the garbage that is now tearing into the presidency against him to destroy everything that the country has achieved under the leadership of Putin.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 12 February 2018 14: 01
        +59
        what the country has achieved under Putin’s leadership.

        And what did she achieve? Missiles do not take off, planes fall, citizens - beggars, and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 12 February 2018 14: 40
          +33
          We also have judges over the law will seem to be in the air! Straight in alcoholic pairs!
          Well, the full Lafa will come to them, as if they hadn’t had everything in chocolate before!
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 17: 24
            +4
            Quote: rocket757
            We also have judges over the law will seem to be in the air! Straight in alcoholic pairs!

            what what as in other countries !!! request request tongue tongue laughing laughing laughing
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 12 February 2018 19: 47
              +6
              Possible variant. I didn’t look for statistics, but I read it between things.
              I have no illusions that they have a hill over there, they all go under the same law, they are to the right of the right wherever money rules ...
              And still it’s disgusting, if we have it according to the law, consider it unshakable!
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 20: 30
                +5
                Quote: rocket757
                Possible variant. I didn’t look for statistics, but I read it between things.
                I have no illusions that they have a hill over there, they all go under the same law, they are to the right of the right wherever money rules ...
                And still it’s disgusting, if we have it according to the law, consider it unshakable!

                recourse recourse recourse honestly, it’s sad if you don’t know that in most countries judges have a lot of privileges and immunity !!! and not a judge’s current .... it’s not worth making some Quasimodo out of our country !!! wassat wassat I finally can’t understand why they made a hysteria around the ban on making drunk judges behind the wheel ... and before that “stormy decree” they couldn’t draw them up !!! what request request wassat wassat and to all ignorant to help the Constitution of the Russian Federation ... in particular, part 1 of article 122 !!! repeat repeat repeat
                Article 122

                1. Judges are inviolable.
                2. A judge cannot be prosecuted otherwise than in the manner determined by federal law.

                Law on the Status of Judges in the Russian Federation
                Hr.5 st.16
                A judge detained on suspicion of committing a crime or for any other reason, or forcibly brought to any state body, if the identity of this judge could not be known at the time of detention, after being identified, shall be immediately released.
                Personal examination of a judge is not allowed, with the exception of cases provided for by federal law in order to ensure the safety of other people.
                _________________________________________________
                _________________

                another thing is that it is worthwhile to restore moral and ethical order in the judicial community !!! request request request soldier soldier soldier
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 12 February 2018 22: 21
                  +14
                  Honestly, I’m sad to assume that you Nikolay are not aware that drunk driving is a danger to others! To drive a source of increased danger, which is a motor vehicle, is intoxicated is a crime under federal law. The duty of law enforcement officers IN ANY COUNTRY OF THE WORLD to prevent drunk drivers from driving !!!
                  Any explanations, excuses, etc. at just casuistry of judicial-lawyer and other imperious.! And in our opinion, in a simple way, the CINDY DECLARE OF COMMON ACCEPTED NORMS AND GOOD SENSE!
                  And if the public, the people will not REALLY AGAINST such arrogance of all that shobla, disguised as a "servant of the people", we will not even notice how they will begin to tear our skin from us alive!
                  Are you comfortable with this prospect?
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 23: 43
                    +5
                    Quote: rocket757
                    Honestly, I’m sad to assume that you Nikolay are not aware that drunk driving is a danger to others! To drive a source of increased danger, which is a motor vehicle, is intoxicated is a crime under federal law. The duty of law enforcement officers IN ANY COUNTRY OF THE WORLD to prevent drunk drivers from driving !!!
                    Any explanations, excuses, etc. at just casuistry of judicial-lawyer and other imperious.! And in our opinion, in a simple way, the CINDY DECLARE OF COMMON ACCEPTED NORMS AND GOOD SENSE!
                    And if the public, the people will not REALLY AGAINST such arrogance of all that shobla, disguised as a "servant of the people", we will not even notice how they will begin to tear our skin from us alive!
                    Are you comfortable with this prospect?

                    obviously you misunderstand the essence of the question !!! wassat wassat wassat I am not saying that judges should drive thumps and crush people !! but the topic is that this “layer of society” is under completely different legal acts and procedural actions than ordinary people ... and, in most countries ... there are claims to digitalized ones, from which it rolled to us in full growth .. .hotya, I think, in the USSR, too, there were no standards by which they could just attract special subjects !! request request
                    Well, about
                    Quote: rocket757
                    And if the public, the people will not REALLY AGAINST

                    there are few examples for you when that very public, by its actions, created a bunch of troubles under all sorts of cries for justice ??? belay belay USSR collapse forgotten already ??? what what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                    1. Svetlana
                      Svetlana 13 February 2018 00: 06
                      +13
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      there are few examples for you when that very public, by its actions, created a bunch of troubles under all sorts of cries for justice ??? USSR collapse forgotten already ???

                      90% of USSR citizens voted against the collapse of the USSR in a referendum. This is not the public that destroyed the USSR, but the servants of the people against its will ..
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 00: 24
                        +3
                        Quote: Svetlana
                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        there are few examples for you when that very public, by its actions, created a bunch of troubles under all sorts of cries for justice ??? USSR collapse forgotten already ???

                        90% of USSR citizens voted against the collapse of the USSR in a referendum. This is not the public that destroyed the USSR, but the servants of the people against its will ..

                        On the same day, the Democratic Russia movement, together with the Living Ring and August-91 organizations, held a citywide rally in Moscow in support of Yeltsin’s actions, which included a rally and demonstration in which several thousand people participated. The Yeltsin’s support was also supported by the Public-Patriotic Association of Volunteers - Defenders of the White House in August 1991 in support of democratic reforms “The Russia Squad”

                        A number of cultural figures (Leonid Yarmolnik, Arkady Arkanov, Kirill Lavrov) expressed support for the actions of Boris Yeltsin. On the evening of October 3, after an armed incident at a television center in Ostankino, statements by several well-known cultural figures were broadcast on Central Television calling on the army (which had previously announced its neutrality) to put an end to the "defenders of the Soviet system."

                        This is a current small list !!! and these figures, I suppose, also demanded IIIiiiiiiiiiii ... and here comes the quote rocket757 "... And if the public, the people are not REALLY AGAINST such arrogance of all that shobla, disguised as" servants of the people ", we will not have time to notice how they will begin to tear our skin from us alive!
                        Are you happy with this prospect? "!!! laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                        and for the most eloquence, I’ll give a bright opus of the akhijakova of those years of the spill ... read it, and then read the calls of project 757 !!! wink wassat wassat lol lol lol lol lol lol

                        For example, the famous actress L. Akhedzhakova said: “I no longer want to be objective. <...> What kind of damned Constitution is this ?! After all, under this Constitution, people were imprisoned. <...> Now amendments are being written to this Constitution, and the main thing in these amendments is privileges. And now, for this Constitution, into which their privileges have already been written and stuck, they kill people. I don't know what will happen now if there are one hundred thousand people. Where is our army ?! Why doesn't she protect us from this damned Constitution ?! And they also tell me: legitimate, illegitimate ... My friends! Wake up! Do not sleep! The fate of unhappy Russia, our unhappy Motherland, is being decided tonight. Our unfortunate homeland is in danger! Do not sleep! We are facing terrible things. The communists will come again! "
                    2. rocket757
                      rocket757 13 February 2018 08: 16
                      +6
                      I UNDERSTAND THE ESSENCE OF THE QUESTION and I am aware of what privileges senators \ deputies, diplomats, judges and other, other .... I am in the subject of how in Irkutsk the judiciary rolled traffic cops to pancake !!!
                      I specifically "sharpened" the topic, so that it dawned on people that those to whom we are given SOME privileges WILL BE UNDERGROUNDEDLY !!! They feel ABOVE THE LAW and become practically UNJUDGED, UNCONTROLLED !!!
                      This is our reality! Such is the quality of human material in our power structures! These are the rules of the game in all these closed CLANES ... which often decide the fate of people. country!!!
                      Collaboration smears like soot.
                      I take someone’s hand, but I feel my elbow.
                      I look for the eyes, but I feel the look
                      Where above the goals is the butt.
                      Behind the red sunrise is the pink sunset.
                      Chained by one chain,
                      Linked by one purpose.
                      Chained by one chain,
                      Linked by one.

                      DO YOU WANT THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING REMAINING AS IS?
                      DO YOU WANT WHAT BECOMES EVEN WORSE?
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 16: 58
                        0
                        Quote: rocket757
                        I specifically "sharpened" the topic, so that it dawned on people that those to whom we are given SOME privileges WILL BE UNDERGROUNDEDLY !!!

                        but I think you just picked up the topic from the media and staged a demagogy !! request request wassat wassat wassat and here’s confirmation to you that ignorance of the laws does not stop many from balabolism on a topic in which they don’t know anything (this is not addressed to you, but to those who made a hysteria in the media about “drunk” judges wink ) !!! drinks drinks smile

                        The Ministry of Internal Affairs explained the ban on road inspectors to stop judges violating traffic rules by bringing the agency’s regulations in accordance with the law “On the Status of Judges”. This is stated in the response of the ministry to deputy Valery Rashkin.

                        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/13/02/2018/5a81c9a69a
                        79472cf4533612? From = newsfeed

                        I think Rashkin should at least ask his fellow lawyers before sending requests !!! request request laughing laughing laughing

                        about
                        Quote: rocket757
                        DO YOU WANT THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING REMAINING AS IS?
                        DO YOU WANT WHAT BECOMES EVEN WORSE?


                        right above your comment is a vivid description of the performance by akhijakova !! request lol lol lol
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 13 February 2018 20: 43
                        0
                        This is a debate between the blind and the deaf.
                        The truth of the truth is that casuistry is sideways, I’m asking a dozen simple questions to which every layman will find answers on his own or around himself and these answers will not go to the treasury of “love” of our power! Accordingly, for the benefit of candidate No. 1! And that’s it!
                        It has already happened so, go ahead whatever you want, bring laws and other arguments, it will no longer matter. People understood this and the idea of ​​this lime in any way!
                        In short, such a pig was planted by the judges and those serving their patron. He will be the first anyway, but the sediment will remain.
        2. Vend
          Vend 12 February 2018 14: 45
          +6
          Quote: lexus
          what the country has achieved under Putin’s leadership.

          And what did she achieve? Missiles do not take off, planes fall, citizens - beggars, and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.

          And you compare what happened in 90's and what happened now.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 12 February 2018 14: 51
            +45
            And you compare what happened in 90's and what happened now.

            It’s also my habit to compare the bad with the disgusting! You also suggest rejoicing that in the world there are several countries that live worse.
          2. Sofa General
            Sofa General 12 February 2018 15: 17
            +37
            I answer - in 90 there were many small bandits and they tried to legalize themselves. now there are fewer bandits, but they are all legalized.
            What has changed then?
            1. Vend
              Vend 12 February 2018 15: 38
              +6
              Quote: Sofa General
              I answer - in 90 there were many small bandits and they tried to legalize themselves. now there are fewer bandits, but they are all legalized.
              What has changed then?

              Narrowly see Russia 90's, as well as modern Russia.
              1. Sofa General
                Sofa General 12 February 2018 15: 42
                +38
                I was in Yekaterinburg last year. The opinion that I heard well very often was: "Under the Uralmashevtsy (there was such an organized criminal group who didn’t know) there was GREAT order!"
                The only difference is that almost all the "fatty pieces" have already been divided, and they shoot on the street much less often. And the fact that we have come to serfdom is now far from everyone sees. So you yourself look at Russia wider.
                1. Vend
                  Vend 12 February 2018 15: 52
                  +4
                  .
                  Quote: Sofa General
                  I was in Yekaterinburg last year. The opinion that I heard well very often was: "Under the Uralmashevtsy (there was such an organized criminal group who didn’t know) there was GREAT order!"
                  The only difference is that almost all the "fatty pieces" have already been divided, and they shoot on the street much less often. And the fact that we have come to serfdom is now far from everyone sees. So you yourself look at Russia wider.

                  Leave your verbiage, you would at least read what serfdom is, and then you wrote. I see you yearned for the chaos of 90's.
                  1. Sofa General
                    Sofa General 12 February 2018 15: 58
                    +27
                    Wend.
                    You do not confuse warm with soft. If in 90 there were many who wanted to grab a piece of state property, therefore they were shot and they shot each other. Now everything is divided, all large pieces. Therefore, there is no "lawlessness". Those who grabbed property — they also need an “order”, one that will not review the results of privatization, and so on. They also do not need what they shoot on the street - they took their own and that’s all, the grass didn’t grow.
                    And according to serfdom ... Honestly, I do not want to write for a long time, but just try to change jobs. Let's say a middle manager at one plant in the same position at another. Maybe then you will understand something.
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 12 February 2018 16: 06
                      +3
                      Quote: Sofa General
                      Wend.
                      You do not confuse warm with soft. If in 90 there were many who wanted to grab a piece of state property, therefore they were shot and they shot each other. Now everything is divided, all large pieces. Therefore, there is no "lawlessness". Those who grabbed property — they also need an “order”, one that will not review the results of privatization, and so on. They also do not need what they shoot on the street - they took their own and that’s all, the grass didn’t grow.
                      And according to serfdom ... Honestly, I do not want to write for a long time, but just try to change jobs. Let's say a middle manager at one plant in the same position at another. Maybe then you will understand something.

                      The chaos of the 90's was not only in crime and the division of state property. he was in the laws, the courts, etc. It was simply impossible to get justice in 90's. For example, my friend in 90’s invested in shared construction, was left without housing, now the state is completing the property of ruined developers, and the developer pays a fine for delaying delivery through the court in 100% and this is not a penny.
                      I changed my work more than once, no one kept it, so no need. So again, before writing about serfdom, study the topic.
                      1. Sofa General
                        Sofa General 12 February 2018 16: 15
                        +20
                        Mayhem of the 90s was not only in crime and the division of state property. he was in the laws, the courts, etc. It was simply impossible to achieve justice in the 90s.

                        And now it became possible to achieve justice ??? Do not make laugh.
                        From personal experience. Dealt with our civil law court system. So: TRUTH and JUSTICE are not needed in modern Russia ANYONE. Except for those who are looking for her. The power system needs a compromise when everyone is not comfortable, but everything is according to the "law".

                        PS, I didn’t hold about work. The question is not that you are being forcibly detained, as in classical serfdom. The question is that conditions are being created, that a working person himself, voluntarily, is ready to sacrifice a lot, if only he would not be kicked out. A mass example recently passed through news sites: when they “optimized” salaries at UVZ. Google yourself. Salary has become less, more work. And the most interesting thing is that where are you going to FIG. If you have a family and children - even more so. So look at life without pink glasses.
                  2. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 12 February 2018 16: 08
                    +20
                    Quote: Wend
                    you would at least read what serfdom is, and then you wrote. I see you yearned for the chaos of 90's.

                    We read! You have good staples.
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 12 February 2018 16: 13
                      +3
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Quote: Wend
                      you would at least read what serfdom is, and then you wrote. I see you yearned for the chaos of 90's.

                      We read! You have good staples.

                      Do you want to look dumber than you are? Your right.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 12 February 2018 16: 41
                        +19
                        Quote: Wend
                        Do you want to look dumber than you are? Your right.

                        laughing Waiting for a construct from the Zaputinsky troll, a thankless task. yes
                2. Jack
                  Jack 12 February 2018 18: 24
                  +12
                  By the way - quote: “New production standards for UVZ employees were introduced in October 2017. Under the new rules, they doubled, and the rate of work, on the contrary, fell by 45 percent. As a result of the innovation, the average salary of cutters and welders of the plant fell from 60 to 30 thousand rubles ... "
          3. rocket757
            rocket757 12 February 2018 15: 24
            +7
            Nobody wants a mess and maydown dances !!!
            Only the authorities need to indicate what people care for, then the response movement will be fast and powerful !!!
            So I had to endure a lot! At the cries of various "caring riffraff" people did not get carried away! But it really becomes harder for us to live, and this fact is not only external. but also the inside ... and everything is very IN VIEW!
          4. free
            free 13 February 2018 10: 00
            +5
            Quote: Wend
            Quote: lexus
            what the country has achieved under Putin’s leadership.

            And what did she achieve? Missiles do not take off, planes fall, citizens - beggars, and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.

            And you compare what happened in 90's and what happened now.

            Compare what happened in 70's and now?
            1. Vend
              Vend 13 February 2018 10: 01
              0
              Quote: free
              Quote: Wend
              Quote: lexus
              what the country has achieved under Putin’s leadership.

              And what did she achieve? Missiles do not take off, planes fall, citizens - beggars, and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.

              And you compare what happened in 90's and what happened now.

              Compare what happened in 70's and now?

              From what side is 70 here, then there was a different country and a different system. Think before you write What then did not compare with the Middle Ages?laughing
              1. free
                free 13 February 2018 10: 08
                +7
                Quote: Wend
                Quote: free
                Quote: Wend
                Quote: lexus
                what the country has achieved under Putin’s leadership.

                And what did she achieve? Missiles do not take off, planes fall, citizens - beggars, and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.

                And you compare what happened in 90's and what happened now.

                Compare what happened in 70's and now?

                From what side is the 70s, then there was a different country and a different system. Think Before You Write laughing

                The country is different, it’s true, but the people are the same and this people knows what to compare with. What your government has achieved and what it brought the people to. And by the way, those who are now in power have destroyed that country.
            2. Mestny
              Mestny 13 February 2018 16: 08
              +1
              Compare what happened in 70's and now?

              Yes, easily.
              For example, a woman gave birth to a child. No maternity, paid maternity leave for 1.5 years, no maternity capital, and more. Ended sick - forward. to work.
              For example, I first tried sausages at the age of 13, when my mother on the day of the great victory on May 9 defended a huge queue, and gained 1 kg in one hand. By the way, they traded this product directly from the body of a GAZ-53 car, on the floor of which wrapping paper was spread, and the product was dumped just with an ordinary pile, such as sawdust, or brick.
              My classmates and I dressed in school in exactly one way - my parents went to the store, where they bought everything at once - on credit. Because it is clear that there was not enough money to buy without a loan. What was then sold in a "simple store" - boots "scabs of a walker", sewn in the nearest ITL, a winter hat on a "fish fur", and the like masterpieces. Photos remained, cause a rash - did we look like that?
              But!
              The authorities then were already in full order at that time. if there were apartments with amenities, then they were the first to live in them. If at least some worthwhile goods were brought into the stores, it was they who bought it first, and only then other relatives and friends of trade workers.
              In winter, for example, sidewalks in our small town were never cleaned. From the word at all. As in the blockade frames - snow to the waist, and a narrow path.
              What is the marking on the roads we saw only when we got to Leningrad. On the rest of the territory, no one had ever heard of this.
              These are all just examples, for comparison. You can bring thousands, write more than one article.
              Hello to the singers about "Everything was good in the USSR."
              1. free
                free 13 February 2018 16: 23
                +2
                Quote: Mestny
                Compare what happened in 70's and now?

                Yes, easily.
                For example, a woman gave birth to a child. No maternity, paid maternity leave for 1.5 years, no maternity capital, and more. Ended sick - forward. to work.
                For example, I first tried sausages at the age of 13, when my mother on the day of the great victory on May 9 defended a huge queue, and gained 1 kg in one hand. By the way, they traded this product directly from the body of a GAZ-53 car, on the floor of which wrapping paper was spread, and the product was dumped just with an ordinary pile, such as sawdust, or brick.
                My classmates and I dressed in school in exactly one way - my parents went to the store, where they bought everything at once - on credit. Because it is clear that there was not enough money to buy without a loan. What was then sold in a "simple store" - boots "scabs of a walker", sewn in the nearest ITL, a winter hat on a "fish fur", and the like masterpieces. Photos remained, cause a rash - did we look like that?
                But!
                The authorities then were already in full order at that time. if there were apartments with amenities, then they were the first to live in them. If at least some worthwhile goods were brought into the stores, it was they who bought it first, and only then other relatives and friends of trade workers.
                In winter, for example, sidewalks in our small town were never cleaned. From the word at all. As in the blockade frames - snow to the waist, and a narrow path.
                What is the marking on the roads we saw only when we got to Leningrad. On the rest of the territory, no one had ever heard of this.
                These are all just examples, for comparison. You can bring thousands, write more than one article.
                Hello to the singers about "Everything was good in the USSR."

                Composed for a long time?
        3. Gardamir
          Gardamir 12 February 2018 16: 49
          +10
          planes are falling
          Already the president himself is afraid to fly
          Russian President Vladimir Putin canceled a trip to Sochi due to the crash of the An-148 passenger plane, RBC reports. According to Presidential Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov, a meeting with Putin with Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas was postponed to Moscow on February 12.
        4. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 12 February 2018 20: 09
          +1
          Quote: lexus
          Missiles don't take off

          could / may not have missiles at all.
          Quote: lexus
          planes are falling

          could the last pros ***
          Quote: lexus
          and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.

          show / tell where in which country is wrong?
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 12 February 2018 20: 51
            +9
            Listen to you, there really is something to strive for, though with a minus sign.
            could / may not have missiles at all.

            Regarding the launch vehicle, everything is still based on Soviet technology. On launches - a steady fall. You see, soon the “Rogozin trampoline” itself will be needed.
            could the last pros ***

            But isn't it already ...? "Superjet" is 70% of imports, and not even the most modern.
            show / tell where in which country is wrong?

            Will China arrange?
            Machine tools, electronics and much more were "finished off" in the 2000s. Much of what is being produced now in any area is a screwdriver assembly, where only the nameplate +/- some non-technological parts are domestic.
        5. Mestny
          Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 15
          0
          And hedgehogs? Hedgehogs in stores run out! We ate everyone!
          And what did she achieve? Missiles do not take off, planes fall, citizens - beggars, and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.

          Well, Putin will leave - and once everything will be all right?
          Or do you have to wait another 25 years?
      2. Million
        Million 12 February 2018 14: 03
        +17
        and what has our state achieved ???
        1. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 12 February 2018 14: 03
          +21
          And I would choose here ...
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 12 February 2018 14: 26
            +18
            Quote: oldseaman1957
            And I would choose here ...


            And choose here ... the Moscow elite! wassat

          2. Greenwood
            Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 01
            +2
            Here, before choosing, you have to try each one, and then choose it. wassat
        2. Mestny
          Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 19
          -1
          and what has our state achieved ???

          Really.
          IPhone does not give out to every teenager for free.
          It is forbidden to spoil anywhere the bright creative personalities. Is it a democracy?
          He also builds roads, and new plants, and missiles?
          What for? Everyone knows that Russia has no enemies, only friends and sympathizers, who very much want to help us throw off the bloody regime.
      3. Lexus
        Lexus 12 February 2018 14: 07
        +24
        And I will vote for Putin. I don’t want the garbage that is now tearing into the presidency

        Do you think that the “bunch” left by the drunkard Yeltsin in “co-authorship” with the traitor Sobchak in this chair is better?
      4. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 12 February 2018 15: 36
        +14
        Quote: Wend
        I don’t want the garbage that is now tearing into the presidency against him to destroy everything that the country has achieved under the leadership of Putin.

        Explain who you call garbage, all the remaining 7 registered candidates ?!
        1. Vend
          Vend 12 February 2018 16: 08
          +2
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Quote: Wend
          I don’t want the garbage that is now tearing into the presidency against him to destroy everything that the country has achieved under the leadership of Putin.

          Explain who you call garbage, all the remaining 7 registered candidates ?!

          I wrote everything clearly.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 12 February 2018 16: 29
            +12
            Quote: Wend
            I wrote everything clearly.

            it’s like “anti-Russian statements,” because the Presidential Election is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and all the candidates are officially registered by the CEC, and here you show disrespect for the current legislation, and of the VO rules, at the same time wink
            1. Vend
              Vend 12 February 2018 16: 41
              +3
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              Quote: Wend
              I wrote everything clearly.

              it’s like “anti-Russian statements,” because the Presidential Election is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and all the candidates are officially registered by the CEC, and here you show disrespect for the current legislation, and of the VO rules, at the same time wink

              Yes, I do not respect other candidates. And what did they do to respect them? There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.
              1. Svetlana
                Svetlana 12 February 2018 20: 30
                +17
                Quote: Wend
                There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.

                And what was he blown away? His rating is growing, the candidate’s certificate has been received. Continues to work. If he was blown away in your eyes, then you may have vision problems. Or the points are incorrectly written out.
                1. Dryuya2
                  Dryuya2 12 February 2018 20: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  Continues to work.

                  trade turkish strawberries laughing
                  1. Sofa General
                    Sofa General 12 February 2018 21: 40
                    +8
                    Facts where? with evidence - otherwise you were outraged below about the lack of numbers ...
                2. Vend
                  Vend 13 February 2018 10: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  Quote: Wend
                  There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.

                  And what was he blown away? His rating is growing, the candidate’s certificate has been received. Continues to work. If he was blown away in your eyes, then you may have vision problems. Or the points are incorrectly written out.

                  Here it is for example. Businessman Pavel Grudinin, candidate for president of Russia from the Communist Party, made a statement that he would not mind working together with the scandalous blogger Alexei Navalny ....
                  Source: https://inforeactor.ru/133583-toksichnye-eksperim
                  enty-dlya-kprf-expert-raskryl-posledstviya-vozmo
                  zhnogo-soyuza-grudinina-i-navalnogo
              2. free
                free 13 February 2018 10: 02
                +4
                Quote: Wend
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                Quote: Wend
                I wrote everything clearly.

                it’s like “anti-Russian statements,” because the Presidential Election is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and all the candidates are officially registered by the CEC, and here you show disrespect for the current legislation, and of the VO rules, at the same time wink

                Yes, I do not respect other candidates. And what did they do to respect them? There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.

                So it turns out you can not be respected! It seems like no one is aware of your merits! Respect seems to be supposed to be by default or not?
                1. Vend
                  Vend 13 February 2018 10: 13
                  0
                  Quote: free
                  Quote: Wend
                  Quote: Stirbjorn
                  Quote: Wend
                  I wrote everything clearly.

                  it’s like “anti-Russian statements,” because the Presidential Election is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and all the candidates are officially registered by the CEC, and here you show disrespect for the current legislation, and of the VO rules, at the same time wink

                  Yes, I do not respect other candidates. And what did they do to respect them? There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.

                  So it turns out you can not be respected! It seems like no one is aware of your merits! Respect seems to be supposed to be by default or not?

                  and from what side are my merits and my respect here? Am I running for president? Or am I a public media person? Does someone make you respect me based on the fact that I'm just a citizen of Russia ?. Well, do not carry nonsense. Or do you have nothing more to do?
                  1. free
                    free 13 February 2018 10: 29
                    +3
                    Quote: Wend
                    Quote: free
                    Quote: Wend
                    Quote: Stirbjorn
                    Quote: Wend
                    I wrote everything clearly.

                    it’s like “anti-Russian statements,” because the Presidential Election is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and all the candidates are officially registered by the CEC, and here you show disrespect for the current legislation, and of the VO rules, at the same time wink

                    Yes, I do not respect other candidates. And what did they do to respect them? There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.

                    So it turns out you can not be respected! It seems like no one is aware of your merits! Respect seems to be supposed to be by default or not?

                    and from what side are my merits and my respect here? Am I running for president? Or am I a public media person? Does someone make you respect me based on the fact that I'm just a citizen of Russia ?. Well, do not carry nonsense. Or do you have nothing more to do?

                    How old are you?
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 13 February 2018 10: 36
                      0
                      Quote: free
                      Quote: Wend
                      Quote: free
                      Quote: Wend
                      Quote: Stirbjorn
                      Quote: Wend
                      I wrote everything clearly.

                      it’s like “anti-Russian statements,” because the Presidential Election is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and all the candidates are officially registered by the CEC, and here you show disrespect for the current legislation, and of the VO rules, at the same time wink

                      Yes, I do not respect other candidates. And what did they do to respect them? There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.

                      So it turns out you can not be respected! It seems like no one is aware of your merits! Respect seems to be supposed to be by default or not?

                      and from what side are my merits and my respect here? Am I running for president? Or am I a public media person? Does someone make you respect me based on the fact that I'm just a citizen of Russia ?. Well, do not carry nonsense. Or do you have nothing more to do?

                      How old are you?

                      A strange question, you definitely have nothing to do. I am 45
                      1. free
                        free 13 February 2018 11: 04
                        +2
                        Quote: Wend
                        Quote: free
                        Quote: Wend
                        Quote: free
                        Quote: Wend
                        Quote: Stirbjorn
                        Quote: Wend
                        I wrote everything clearly.

                        it’s like “anti-Russian statements,” because the Presidential Election is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and all the candidates are officially registered by the CEC, and here you show disrespect for the current legislation, and of the VO rules, at the same time wink

                        Yes, I do not respect other candidates. And what did they do to respect them? There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. The CEC is guided by its rules.

                        So it turns out you can not be respected! It seems like no one is aware of your merits! Respect seems to be supposed to be by default or not?

                        and from what side are my merits and my respect here? Am I running for president? Or am I a public media person? Does someone make you respect me based on the fact that I'm just a citizen of Russia ?. Well, do not carry nonsense. Or do you have nothing more to do?

                        How old are you?

                        A strange question, you definitely have nothing to do. I am 45

                        So do you really need to explain that you need to respect people initially, regardless of age, gender, nationality, degree of media promotion, merit, fame, wallet size, and whether or not he is a presidential candidate or not. ?
                2. Mestny
                  Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 22
                  -1
                  Of course it is possible. And of course, you can not respect any clown eager for power.
                  But the President "not respect" is not recommended, according to current legislation.
                  That is, it is not worth watering it with unproven slops. In any country, by the way.
              3. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 14 February 2018 11: 24
                0
                Quote: Wend

                Yes, I do not respect other candidates. And what did they do to respect them? There was one Grudinin, and even he was blown away, it was only worth digging. CEC is guided by its rules

                Fear the oligarchs eager for power. Under what banners they would not be.
                I’m telling you as a citizen of Ukraine.
                I would rather believe Baburin than Grudinin. If not the Darkest.
    3. Lexus
      Lexus 12 February 2018 14: 00
      +31
      You are right, it’s not worth boycotting the elections, otherwise the “Putiners” will vote for you with pleasure.
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 12 February 2018 14: 11
        +23
        You are right, it’s not worth boycotting the elections, otherwise the “Putiners” will vote for you with pleasure.

        You don’t need to boycott it for sure, in the State Duma elections 60% ignored and why there are more than 300 seats in the Duma and there are now enough people to resent, it's your own fault. Sit warm your ass further.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 17: 41
          +3
          Quote: vlad66
          You are right, it’s not worth boycotting the elections, otherwise the “Putiners” will vote for you with pleasure.

          You don’t need to boycott it for sure, in the State Duma elections 60% ignored and why there are more than 300 seats in the Duma and there are now enough people to resent, it's your own fault. Sit warm your ass further.

          it’s better to give an example the elections to municipalities in Moscow ... if they are ignored by people, runoff scrambled there ... mom do not grieve !!!! belay belay wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
      2. kepmor
        kepmor 12 February 2018 14: 12
        +12
        for whom they do not care for them ... the main thing is% turnout ... and they will be able to calculate something ... the procedure has been worked out for years ...
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 February 2018 14: 17
          +12
          And% turnout is not a problem. "Dorisyut" - "ride on the carousel" of the military, the Russian guard and prisoners.
        2. rocket757
          rocket757 12 February 2018 14: 35
          +9
          I would vote for the candidate "against all"! But this time “against all”, too dumb a candidature!
          1. Don
            Don 12 February 2018 19: 29
            +7
            Quote: rocket757
            I would vote for the candidate "against all"! But this time “against all”, too dumb a candidature!

            Yeah, nobody needs such a horse. laughing Only the people have already reached such a point that she will gain a decent amount of votes request
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 12 February 2018 19: 57
              +1
              There’s still an audience at the house, either behind the glass or through the window, but there are also subscribers to the echo, rain, jellyfish in figures under the lamas!
              Again, an amateur was found and muddied the horse!
              If it’s jealous, then many people do not believe in power and finally no one! Deservedly by the way! So the candidate will scratch his figure against everyone! Not far from the error, but you can’t even write a zeros!
    4. BAI
      BAI 12 February 2018 14: 18
      +4
      1. Who will vote for whom - nobody cares, the result was known 6 years ago. In the Trump-Clinton pair, no one knew anything until the last second.
      2. Attendance is needed not for someone to use unused “voices”, but for the legitimacy of the elections: 60% of 100% who came to the polls - 60% of the population, and 100% of 20% who came to the polls - 20% of the population (eligible to vote).
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 February 2018 15: 27
        +9
        Elections for any will be legitimate!
        The habit of looking back over a hill ... a very bad habit, you have to keep an answer to your people!
    5. aleks26
      aleks26 12 February 2018 18: 46
      0
      Quote: Salute
      I will vote for anyone, but not for the current government

      Come on! For the little sabach! laughing
    6. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 13 February 2018 16: 14
      +1
      No ... the movie character from Kin-Dza-Dza was right ...
      Without color differentiation, society is doomed!
      It would seem that what is easiest to do?
      Yes, it’s easy to put not in the booths, but in the open, in the middle of the hall TRANSPARENT ballot boxes, there’s a recycling machine next to each candidate and assign each candidate a ballot of a certain color. And all, of course, under video cameras from 33 angles.
      You can forВHow about the secrecy of the election ... Just think, why should they be secret?
      Yes, so that no one knows the true truth.
      Or is it not democracy, but dictatorship and you are all afraid of something ?!
      Understand that they are afraid of you, the truth, your choice ... and much more ..
      But we are afraid of nothing, beside fools and scoundrels, we have seen enough of them for the past 18 years.
      Well, to make it clearer ...
      Let's say (conditional numbers) around the world we have 89 387 254 registered voters with the right to vote.
      89 387 254 sets of multi-colored ballots are printed on Gozznak and a unique code provided by the RNG is assigned to each set.
      H and another + \ - 1% for any unforeseen.
      Each set is sealed on the line in an envelope and, by random selection, sent to a particular region.
      The voter receives just a sealed envelope with ballots, which in no way attached to him, the voter.
      Then he lays in the ballot box with his Darling, and the rest in the utilizer.
      Is the secret kept?
      And how !!!
    7. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 13 February 2018 19: 03
      0
      Quote: Salute
      I will vote for anyone just not for the current government, a signal to the Kremlin that not everything is good in the country

      Well, you gave a signal to the Kremlin, voted and chose ... Sobchak. Judging by 30 for your post. Do you feel better?
      First ask yourself the question - why do we need a president? What are his responsibilities? What are his rights? I suppose you don’t think that his rights are unlimited? Do your wishes always match your capabilities? And the president? Suppose we choose any of the candidates except the Darkest. Will something change? - probably. Is there any certainty that it will change for the better? I do not have.
      Any choices are cat picks in a poke. Because we do not know the real intellectual, guiding, psychological abilities of candidates. The fact that they say that they are for all good and against all bad is understandable. But will they be able to select and place personnel for work to achieve the notorious “all the best”? Is that a question? Yes. Yes, and what. I will not reveal a secret, if I say - everything is known in comparison. So let's compare. 1985 - 1990 worse and worse. 1990 - 2000 worse and worse. 2000 - 2015 is better and better. Further deterioration. Is the president to blame? Undoubtedly. Do I need to change it? On the cat in the bag? You decide. I am not a citizen of Russia. The darkest, though stumbling, leads Russia. Personally, I have more complaints about the government. You say: - "Well, he will not replace him?" Are you sure that he will be able to do this without loss for Russia? What, he has in the front desk of the ready-made ministers, and even proven in work? Think men, think. The head is not given to eat in it.
      Just don’t think that I pretend to be the ultimate truth.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 13 February 2018 19: 45
        0
        They annoyed me. There was a desire to continue. Suppose you choose the Darkest. What command would you give him? Personally, I would say - Volodenka, dear, leisurely, look around and choose a "comrade." But not simple, but one with both the army and the university and the successful leadership of the state. enterprise, and the management of the region, or the ministry, and if not very successful, then at least not a failure. The requirements must be very high. They are not preparing for the leadership of the collective farm. That he was with you everywhere, of course, except for the toilet and the bedroom. His task is to learn to govern the state. (You must admit, there is no university where they teach this.) In case your powers expire, your "comrade" will take over the reins of government without serious consequences for the state. And immediately he finds himself a "comrade."
        Why would I tell him so? Because since we have already entrusted him with our state to the government, why can't we entrust him with the selection of a comrade (Receiver)? Where is the greater probability of error? Is it a person to whom we have already entrusted the state or from us, choosing a pig in a poke? There is one more point. Suppose the president chose a "comrade" for himself and, in the process of training, concludes that he will not pull the state. The region will pull, but the state will not. Is that trouble? - No. The president finds another "comrade." And if we, having chosen a cat in a poke, and after a year realizing that we were mistaken, what can we do? Yes, nothing at all.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 12 February 2018 13: 50
    +18
    Of course, you must go to the polls and make your choice, so that he does not become a stranger ..
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 12 February 2018 13: 55
      +3
      People say that the boycott of the elections does not solve the problems that “who, if not Putin,” and also “should choose the person who would rule the country”.
      And with that and with another I agree. But at the same time, I think that all these polls and social studies are “from the evil one”.
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    2. dm_Russia
      dm_Russia 12 February 2018 14: 00
      +10
      You have to go anyway. Better to get 95% percent. Let the mattresses a> <be rented from attendance. And I do not see any worthy candidates as an acre.
  3. Lelek
    Lelek 12 February 2018 13: 52
    +8
    (... Ksenia Sobchak...)

    With such a “president," enemies are not necessary for the country. negative
    1. Solomon Kane
      Solomon Kane 12 February 2018 13: 59
      +13
      The list of candidates on the ballot today is as follows: Sergey Baburin, Pavel Grudinin, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Vladimir Putin, Ksenia Sobchak, Maxim Suraikin, Boris Titov, Grigory Yavlinsky.

      Watch on all screens of the country a remake:
      1. 210ox
        210ox 12 February 2018 14: 08
        +7
        Konstantin hi It remains to add that this "girl" is still that horse ...
        Quote: Solomon Kane
        The list of candidates on the ballot today is as follows: Sergey Baburin, Pavel Grudinin, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Vladimir Putin, Ksenia Sobchak, Maxim Suraikin, Boris Titov, Grigory Yavlinsky.

        Watch on all screens of the country a remake:
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 14 February 2018 11: 35
      0
      Quote: Lelek
      With such a “president" no enemies are needed for the country

      This fool does not understand at all that all that happened in Ukraine did not happen at the request of the majority of the people and that the goals of the people do not coincide with the goals of the organizers of what happened.
  4. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 12 February 2018 13: 53
    +12
    About half will come. Many people, so that the “polls” do not approve, and talking heads on TV will not go fundamentally. There is no acceptable candidate for them, and the cunning Vladimir Vladimir Ilyich Putin removed the column “against all” wassat How they removed the turnout threshold, protecting themselves from all sides.
    1. digitalcn75
      digitalcn75 12 February 2018 13: 59
      +3
      Give the election! elections, elections, candidates are good people!
    2. 3vs
      3vs 12 February 2018 14: 10
      0
      Yes, you, comrade, a potential signatory to my petition! laughing

      https://www.change.org/p/общероссийский-референду
      m-by-change-constitution-of-the-russian-federation
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 12 February 2018 13: 55
    +13
    good Unconditionally for Putin !!! The remaining soap bubbles.
    1. yehat
      yehat 12 February 2018 14: 01
      +23
      tell me, what Putin has done really useful for the people of the Russian Federation in the last term, except for formal performance of duties? I can say about Syria, about Crimeans too, and about migrant workers. What about us?
      1. Loess
        Loess 12 February 2018 14: 14
        +7
        According to the medical policy, you can now get help in any hospital, and not just in the area where it is registered. Previously, even within the same region, they did not accept hospitals in their neighboring area, but now it’s easy. You can take a calm step along a pedestrian crossing, rather than jogging, especially you feel this difference when you cross the road with a small child. The introduction of Casco and OSAGO also made life calmer. In public places, smoking has become much less, again when you are waiting for a bus with a child, the difference is really noticeable. It concerns us. Does this concern you, I do not know. You quickly get used to the good only ... and forget about it for current problems ...
        1. yehat
          yehat 12 February 2018 14: 16
          +12
          I have another problem - I CAN'T RECEIVE a policy)))
          a clinic in the house where I am registered - I can’t take a sick leave, I can’t get a policy, I can’t just register for an appointment
          They didn’t smoke less - not true.
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 12 February 2018 14: 21
            +9
            Quote: yehat
            I have another problem - I CAN’T RECEIVE a policy))

            Excuse me, are you not a citizen of Russia? belay
            1. yehat
              yehat 12 February 2018 14: 27
              +3
              the passport does not help, there are higher rules that I can’t overcome for 4 years)))
              the last is to present the previous policy, which I also do not have.
              1. SlavaS
                SlavaS 12 February 2018 14: 47
                +3
                I received a policy about 6 months ago, I only needed a passport
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 18: 06
                +6
                Quote: yehat
                the passport does not help, there are higher rules that I can’t overcome for 4 years)))
                the last is to present the previous policy, which I also do not have.

                what what here people don’t hang noodles on ears !!! fool fool laughing laughing laughing I went to a polyclinic in another city ... in another region ... for 2500 thousand kilometers from the place of receipt !! tongue tongue they still tried to force me to change the policy, but they were sent on an erotic journey ... naturally in a cultural form !!! laughing laughing laughing
        2. Geterosigma
          Geterosigma 12 February 2018 14: 44
          +17
          about the policy by the way .... I came to the hospital according to the policy and sent me to do a paid scan of the brain vessels and MRI and I got this FREE help in 6 tr. And so, in principle, the help is free.
          1. SlavaS
            SlavaS 12 February 2018 16: 25
            +8
            Well, you hurried up, I offered a couple of three months in line to wait for a free MRI. :-)
        3. Sofa General
          Sofa General 12 February 2018 15: 21
          +17
          Loess
          Lying! That's really lying!
          Unfortunately, I myself recently encountered such a problem. So: to get to the hospital with a policy of, say, a neighboring area, ONLY WITH ACUTE PAIN. and CHOOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE I WILL, HERE WILL NOT BE - FIGS.
          1. Loess
            Loess 12 February 2018 15: 35
            +4
            What are you? Have you tried to ask for a written refusal? Such a request, as if by magic, removes many problems, I know for myself.
            1. Sofa General
              Sofa General 12 February 2018 15: 44
              +14
              And there is a written refusal. With full justification. Contacted him in our insurance, which issued a compulsory medical insurance policy - they confirmed the legality of the refusal. So do not sing war songs - everything is on the face, as they say. And it was not somewhere in darkness, they didn’t take me to a hospital in the Moscow region with the Moscow MHI policy in their hands.
              1. Loess
                Loess 12 February 2018 16: 27
                +2
                In our “darkness” means differently. With the excesses on the ground in Russia in general, for a long time, the struggle has been going on. And on what basis were you refused, if not secret? Just for fun?
                1. Sofa General
                  Sofa General 12 February 2018 16: 36
                  +4
                  Moscow insurance does not pay for treatment to regional hospitals. Since they have an agreement on payment only in Moscow. ROSNO insurance, if that. The budgets are not the same.
                  1. Loess
                    Loess 12 February 2018 17: 49
                    +2
                    Well, actually, on such a basis, you could be refused only in a private clinic. Since 11, the policy has been valid throughout the country. At least I am within my region, and once in a neighboring region I applied to the hospital without any particular problems. In dentistry, they tried to "fly", but in the end everything was settled. So if something went wrong with you, then this is not a reason to throw such accusations:
                    Quote: Sofa General
                    Lying! That's really lying!
                    1. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 12 February 2018 17: 59
                      +6
                      Loess.
                      You are an eccentric, right word. It would be easier, much easier for me to “solve” the issue in the capital, and in the periphery. Yes, if you fell on the street and lie with a broken leg (God forbid) - they will help you with the policy. They will even be without a policy. And if you WANT to choose a doctor and see nickname - here are the figurines! That's what it is all about.
                      By the way, they didn’t even take us to the paid department. And if you are also over 65, then even more so.
                      Want to read about Moscow medicine? Type in Google in the search engine "Moscow reviews about the hospital number ***" and see what people write. These are not trolls bought by bulk - these are living people with their pain ...
                      Do you think that if they start suing, they will achieve justice? Or will their relatives be returned to them?
                      PS And more. Do not confuse emergency, emergency care and treatment.
                      1. Loess
                        Loess 12 February 2018 18: 05
                        +1
                        I agree about age. Of the fractures, my nose was only broken) In Moscow I was only a few times and everything was passing, I did not stop for more than a day, so I can only discuss what I see from my “bell tower”.
                      2. Svetlana
                        Svetlana 12 February 2018 20: 51
                        +6
                        Quote: Sofa General
                        PS And more. Do not confuse emergency, emergency care and treatment.

                        Yes, it’s not particularly confusing. Sometimes, until you give the ambulance to the doctor, he will not save the dying man. Not all of these, of course, still had doctors with a conscience, but few of them, for some reason they are being reduced more.
                      3. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 14 February 2018 11: 54
                        0
                        Guys, I'm reading your skirmish about honey. policies and I think - is the president really to blame for all this misunderstanding? And who of you, dissatisfied, justly dissatisfied, went to the people's deputy in your district? No, of course I understand - you have no time, and there is no need to worry too much, you have to tear your ass from the sofa. And here it’s quite simple - since the confusion in the Ministry of Health is on the ground, I emphasize - on the ground, that means Putin is to blame and he needs to be changed urgently !!! 90% of Russian troubles are created by local officials who do not want to just work, and the president himself will not cope with this. He has a different task. So you have to fight local officials yourself. And do not miss a single case, so as not to tear. And they will begin to be afraid and begin to WORK!
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        4. SlavaS
          SlavaS 12 February 2018 16: 22
          +4
          http://chelyabinsk.74.ru/text/health/397896357060
          608.html do not be too lazy to follow the link, look at which hospitals, they serve according to the policy, while it’s NOT free, because contributions to the MHIF have not been canceled
        5. Icarus
          Icarus 12 February 2018 22: 54
          +6
          Loess
          According to the medical policy, you can now get help in any hospital, and not just in the area where it is registered. Previously, even within the same region, they did not accept hospitals in their neighboring area, but now it’s easy. You can take a calm step along a pedestrian crossing, rather than jogging, especially you feel this difference when you cross the road with a small child. The introduction of Casco and OSAGO also made life calmer. In public places, smoking has become much less, again when you are waiting for a bus with a child, the difference is really noticeable. It concerns us. Does this concern you, I do not know. You quickly get used to the good only ... and forget about it for current problems ...

          In the medical city. Now (after a reduction in the number of doctors in municipal institutions), to get to a specialist doctor (neurologist, obstetrician, etc.), you must make an appointment in advance for 10-14 days! Is this free medicine? Will you wait or will it still press when - for a fee and without a queue?
          About the crosswalk. First, the code on administrative offenses is not amended by the president, but by the Duma. The president can only block the law. Secondly, gradually the culture of drivers is still rising.
          For restrictions on smoking, see the paragraph on pedestrian crossings. This has nothing to do with the president.
          CASCO - this is a voluntary matter and does not apply to the achievements of our time.
          MTPL - total injustice. Example: I have two cars (I live outside the city and having a backup car is a vital necessity). OSAGO insures the RESPONSIBILITY of the driver for causing harm to other participants in the DD. Why should I insure my liability twice when driving different cars? About OSAGO I could continue, but this is not related to the topic.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 23: 52
            +2
            Quote: Icarus
            and the availability of a backup car is a vital necessity)

            recourse recourse recourse With such a statement of the theme, in principle, there should not be a priori any complaints about life !!! what what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 07
              +3
              This does not mean that you need to support the current president.
        6. Greenwood
          Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 04
          +6
          Quote: Less
          You can take a calm step along a pedestrian crossing rather than jogging, especially you feel this difference when you cross the road with a small child.
          Oh yes really. In our city, almost every month, there are several cases when people are knocked down at pedestrian crossings. What has changed?
      2. Egorovich
        Egorovich 12 February 2018 14: 19
        +7
        The rise of agricultural, livestock, poultry, military-industrial complex, army, exit from the demographic pit, engineering, aircraft, and most importantly, stopped ass licking the West.
        1. yehat
          yehat 12 February 2018 14: 24
          +22
          Quote: Egorovich
          The rise of agricultural, livestock, poultry, military-industrial complex, army, exit from the demographic pit, engineering, aircraft, and most importantly, stopped ass licking the West.

          rise of agricultural - the question is very doubtful.
          livestock - certainly not on the rise
          prisovodstvo - yes, there are progress, but are you sure that this is Putin?
          money is pouring into the military-industrial complex, but I would not say about the rise.
          he’s just not allowed to die yet.
          demographic pit remains. Or do you think that the birth rate in Chechnya, Dagestan, Gaster from Ukraine and Uzbekistan is excellent for Moscow and St. Petersburg, where its population is declining?
          mechanical engineering, aircraft manufacturing - yes they are stupidly not. wake up! very little is being done.
          stopped licking? then what is called a "budget rule"?
          1. kepmor
            kepmor 12 February 2018 14: 46
            +16
            Yegorych, you are "right" ... of course, the "rise" in us in everything ...
            that's just the people our rulers some worthless caught ... everything is getting poorer and poorer ...
            and why ?????? ...
            maybe loafers ???? ...
            what do you think ????? ....
            1. Geterosigma
              Geterosigma 12 February 2018 15: 15
              +11
              Yegorychu is just dripping a good (maybe military) pension, so he is so rosy. Immediately visible throughout the rise.
              1. Shkodnik65
                Shkodnik65 12 February 2018 15: 35
                +16
                And who said that a military pension is good ??? My friend served 20-ku gets about 12 tyr. A good pension is received by either generals or civil servants. I am a military pensioner, but I will not vote for Putin under any circumstances. As did not vote before for him, for Medvedev and for Yeltsin. But Putin looks advantageous only against the backdrop of Yeltsin.
                1. aleks26
                  aleks26 12 February 2018 18: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Shkodnik65
                  My friend served 20-ku gets about 12 tyr.

                  Probably lying. My comrade major retired - 27 thousand. gets.
                2. Geterosigma
                  Geterosigma 13 February 2018 10: 07
                  +2
                  major long-range aviation acquaintance gets 25tysch
            2. SlavaS
              SlavaS 12 February 2018 16: 30
              +1
              There are loafers and drunks, but they are in the minority, our people are normal, albeit a little thieving!
              1. Geterosigma
                Geterosigma 13 February 2018 11: 42
                0
                Little? Yes, most likely MUCH. They drag everything in a row.
          2. SlavaS
            SlavaS 12 February 2018 14: 48
            +7
            There is also a housing and utilities repair
        2. nemec55
          nemec55 12 February 2018 14: 43
          +16
          The rise of agricultural, livestock, poultry, military-industrial complex, army, exit from the demographic pit, engineering, aircraft, and most importantly, stopped ass licking the West.

          I live in a village, raise s / x this linden Livestock raising you are right increased due to the fact that people in the villages under the Soviet government kept one or two cows and now you don’t want to die for serious illnesses, but you’ll die for 5 to survive, but at least barn go
          It’s not about milk and cows that I officially said since the delivery of milk comes mainly from private owners and also meat and this is not the merit of the current government, it’s the backside of people's lives and the face of the current government
          A demographic hole, well, God, how can I get out of the hole (I heard from Putin on TV on that year that year) and this year Putin said on the phone that we have a demographic catastrophe and they are accepting a program that will pay money to newborns in my opinion up to 3 years
          well, in short, you understand me
        3. Geterosigma
          Geterosigma 12 February 2018 14: 48
          +9
          engineering? how many billions have already been poured into this hole and all to no avail. A domestic car is a reason for grief to this day. It’s enough to sit in it so that tears themselves roll from your eyes. And it’s doubtful whether we can assemble foreign cars.
          1. yehat
            yehat 12 February 2018 14: 54
            +3
            even assembly is good
            it’s bad when there is nothing other than assembly.
            1. Geterosigma
              Geterosigma 12 February 2018 14: 56
              +3
              Well, here they just expressed pride in the automotive industry. I assumed that to be proud .... it is only possible to be proud of one's own. And we don’t know how to make cars. They don’t.
              1. yehat
                yehat 12 February 2018 15: 09
                +2
                the question is not skill
                after the war, the USSR quite successfully sold Muscovites, Volga and victory
                the problem is what we do sadly for the poor
                and who will buy it?
            2. SlavaS
              SlavaS 12 February 2018 16: 32
              0
              Yes, this assembly is already 10 years old
            3. Greenwood
              Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 09
              +3
              Quote: yehat
              even assembly is good
              it’s bad when there is nothing other than assembly.
              Assembly is the destiny of Third World countries and is not a cause for pride at all. Assembly of ready-made car kits is now carried out even in Africa and Central Asia.
        4. Sofa General
          Sofa General 12 February 2018 15: 24
          +17
          exit from the demographic pit, engineering, aircraft manufacturing, and most importantly, stopped ass licking the West

          Write down each item.
          The birth rate for 17 is lower than 16 - but this is particular.
          Engineering - in full ...
          aircraft construction - the release of 3 aircraft per year is GROWTH! almost 300% - cool!
          And they stopped licking about - write ... especially about the expulsion of workers from North Korea to please the United States
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 12 February 2018 20: 46
            +2
            Quote: Sofa General
            And they stopped licking about - write ... especially about the expulsion of workers from North Korea to please the United States

            how many were sent - numbers?
            declare to the public and send different things.
            numbers ????
            1. Sofa General
              Sofa General 12 February 2018 21: 35
              +7
              Dryuya2
              Read here: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2377316.html
              And delirious questions from your ignorance do not ask.
        5. Svetlana
          Svetlana 12 February 2018 20: 53
          +9
          Quote: Egorovich
          The rise of agricultural, livestock, poultry, military-industrial complex, army, exit from the demographic pit, engineering, aircraft, and most importantly, stopped ass licking the West.

          What country are you writing about now ?!
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 10
            +6
            This is all about China you can write. Here they really rise. And so we are, sitting in a swamp.
        6. free
          free 13 February 2018 10: 16
          +6
          Quote: Egorovich
          The rise of agricultural, livestock, poultry, military-industrial complex, army, exit from the demographic pit, engineering, aircraft, and most importantly, stopped ass licking the West.

          Thanks laughed, at the same time and burst into tears.
      3. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 12 February 2018 20: 42
        0
        Quote: yehat
        what Putin has done really useful for the people of the Russian Federation in the last term

        and the oligarchs, friends of the oligarchs, the six oligarchs
        judges, friends, sixes
        prosecutors, friends, sixes
        officials, friends, sixes
        =====
        someone got to the trough, and someone in flight tongue
        offer to take and share?
  6. Ivan Tarava
    Ivan Tarava 12 February 2018 13: 56
    +9
    Does it make sense to consider Grudinin as a presidential candidate?
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 12 February 2018 14: 01
      +15
      Quote: Ivan Tarava
      Does it make sense to consider Grudinin as a presidential candidate?


      Not. But you can vote for him. At least in order for the current government to have less talking, more work.
      I ignored past elections. I’ll go to the present.
      1. aleks26
        aleks26 12 February 2018 18: 56
        0
        What if it passes?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 13 February 2018 17: 09
          -1
          If it passes, then it will be the President.
          And as the current President, we, the citizens of the Russian Federation will be OBLIGED to treat with certain respect, by law. We like him. or not.
          In the meantime ...
          The chairman is either a state farm or not. Either a millionaire, or vice versa ...
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 12 February 2018 14: 13
      +11
      Quote: Ivan Tarava
      Does it make sense to consider Grudinin as a presidential candidate?

      It makes sense to study the program with which he goes, and from what forces, which people support him.
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 18: 18
        +4
        Quote: Svetlana
        It makes sense to study the program with which he goes, and from what forces, which people support him.

        while studying all this, a sane person understands that there is complete crap ... well, Grudinin went around thoroughly with all his financial "frauds" !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 12 February 2018 20: 12
          +7
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          while studying all this, a sane person understands that there is complete crap ... well, Grudinin went around thoroughly with all his financial "frauds" !!!

          In your opinion, is a sane person the one who believes in false corrupt media controlled by the current government? There is an organized attack on Grudinin, but it’s just designed for very strongly unreasoning people, because when analyzing all the attacks on him, it becomes clear that everything is roughly fabricated or even declared from the lamp, i.e. without any evidence. And the attack is very furious, his power was very scared!
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 20: 40
            +1
            Quote: Svetlana
            Quote: Nikolai the Greek
            while studying all this, a sane person understands that there is complete crap ... well, Grudinin went around thoroughly with all his financial "frauds" !!!

            In your opinion, a sane person is someone who believes in false corrupt media!

            this is one who looks at the Grudinin program and is horrified !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
            Quote: Svetlana
            There is an organized attack on Grudinin,

            if you please ... Grudinin pushes himself ... there are no foreign accounts ... there are accounts, but they are already gone ... no longer, but they didn’t close to the end and so on blah blah blah .... no foreign housing ... there is, but it is a son .. a little son - a rich Pinocchio !!! lol lol lol
            Quote: Svetlana
            his power was very scared!

            I advise you not to give out your fantasies as reality ... then you will not have to face hard reality !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 12
              +4
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              if you please ... Grudinin pushes himself ... there are no foreign accounts ... there are accounts, but they are already gone ... no longer, but they didn’t close to the end and so on blah blah blah .... no foreign housing ... there is, but it is a son .. a little son - a rich Pinocchio !!!
              I remind you that Grudinin is an entrepreneur and shareholder of the richest state farm. His son has long been living his life and doing business and can buy himself whatever he wants. He didn’t buy a house for himself at public expense.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 13 February 2018 16: 33
                0
                Well, Chubais, for example, is also not at the expense of the state. Also an entrepreneur and shareholder, and can buy whatever he wants.
                Well, with this it’s clear, he has already removed the cross. But your Grudinin will still have to decide - either remove the cross or wear cowards before the election. At least before the election. And then the Zagrudinites really become ridiculous with their arguments about the "honest" candidate "who is" against crooks and thieves. "
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 13 February 2018 17: 51
                  0
                  Quote: Mestny
                  Well, Chubais, for example, is also not at the expense of the state.
                  The results of the work of Chubais Russia is still disintegrating.
                  Quote: Mestny
                  But your Grudinin will still have to decide - either remove the cross or wear cowards before the election. At least before the election.
                  Explain, please.
                  Quote: Mestny
                  And then the Zagrudinites really become ridiculous with their arguments about the "honest" candidate "who is" against crooks and thieves. "
                  Grudinin is not involved in criminal cases, muddy corruption schemes, and to everything else, he does not appoint himself a salary from the state feeding service.
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 18: 01
                    0
                    Quote: Greenwood
                    The results of the work of Chubais Russia is still disintegrating.

                    but Grudinin fruitfully used them !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
              2. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 17: 06
                0
                Quote: Greenwood
                I remind you that Grudinin is an entrepreneur and shareholder of the richest state farm.

                recourse recourse why did you then moved him from the Communist Party ??? what what wassat wassat lol lol lol by the way, stop powdering the brains of the people ... we have not had any state farms for a long time !!! request request wassat wassat wassat
                Quote: Greenwood
                His son has long been living his life and doing business and can buy himself whatever he wants. He didn’t buy a house for himself at the state expense

                why did Grudinin powder about this brain for everyone ??? moreover, in the same way as with your accounts abroad ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing
                Do you really think that, when nominating for the President of Russia, Grudinin will manage to mow down a fool and avoid such problems with financial and property issues ??? belay belay what what wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing laughing
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 13 February 2018 17: 54
                  0
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  why did you then moved him from the Communist Party ???
                  He was nominated by a coalition of leftist forces to which the Communist Party joined.
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  by the way, stop powdering the brains of the people ... we have not had any state farms for a long time !!!
                  Well, yes, unfortunately, most of the directors of state farms pulled and sold their enterprises, unlike Grudinin.
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  why did Grudinin powder about this brain for everyone ??? moreover, in the same way as with your accounts abroad ???
                  Hmm, how many times he was asked about these accounts, each time he calmly explained everything. Maybe you yourself powder there yourself? lol
                  Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                  Do you really think that, when nominating for the President of Russia, Grudinin will manage to mow down a fool and avoid such problems with financial and property issues ???
                  And what are his problems? The CEC adopted the documents, Grudinin is registered as a presidential candidate.
            2. Fkjydjckfrgh
              Fkjydjckfrgh 13 February 2018 13: 23
              0
              Quote: Nikolai Grek
              Quote: Svetlana
              Quote: Nikolai the Greek
              while studying all this, a sane person understands that there is complete crap ... well, Grudinin went around thoroughly with all his financial "frauds" !!!

              In your opinion, a sane person is someone who believes in false corrupt media!

              this is one who looks at the Grudinin program and is horrified !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
              Quote: Svetlana
              There is an organized attack on Grudinin,

              if you please ... Grudinin pushes himself ... there are no foreign accounts ... there are accounts, but they are already gone ... no longer, but they didn’t close to the end and so on blah blah blah .... no foreign housing ... there is, but it is a son .. a little son - a rich Pinocchio !!! lol lol lol
              Quote: Svetlana
              his power was very scared!

              I advise you not to give out your fantasies as reality ... then you will not have to face hard reality !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing

              Well, Pu gymnasts fights, kisses boys on the tummies, controls the Siberian Cranes, but raises the amphora. Education, medicine, employment - are these priorities? Your choice is obvious.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 13 February 2018 16: 34
                0
                Do you realize your son, that you are insulting the current President of the Russian Federation?
                Or do you have teenagers in the internet so it is accepted that you are not afraid of arrival?
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 17: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Mestny
                  Do you realize your son, that you are insulting the current President of the Russian Federation?
                  Or do you have teenagers in the internet so it is accepted that you are not afraid of arrival?

                  I wonder if the admins banning people for much less vulgar comments pay attention to his comment ?? !!! repeat repeat laughing laughing
                2. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 13 February 2018 17: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Mestny
                  what are you insulting the incumbent President of the Russian Federation?
                  lol laughing wassat Oh, I can’t. Wow, you were offended, right? Your beloved Volodka is condemned. Cast a shadow on his divine essence. The current president, like all other liberal-democratic presidents of post-Soviet Russia, does not deserve respect, so you can talk about them anything.
          2. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 12 February 2018 20: 49
            +2
            at least tell you what he did
            about the collective farm is not necessary lol
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 12 February 2018 22: 58
              +4
              Quote: Dryuya2
              at least tell you what he did
              about the collective farm is not necessary lol

              Yes, I did a lot of good, if you wish, you yourself will find it on the network. It is you who will tell you what you intend to choose Putin for - what did he do by 2000, when he was appointed by the EBN to the presidency, what 18 years he has been in the post - what are the achievements, where are they and in what? Only about getting up from your knees is not necessary. Already not funny.
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 23: 47
                +1
                Quote: Svetlana
                when his EBN took over as president

                what what how do you have confidence that his struggle brought ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing
                1. Svetlana
                  Svetlana 13 February 2018 00: 12
                  +6
                  Quote: Nikolai Grek
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  when his EBN took over as president

                  what what how do you have confidence that his struggle brought ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing

                  Borka brought on the advice of Sobchak, and the initiative came from Birch. That’s all confidence.
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 00: 28
                    0
                    Quote: Svetlana
                    Quote: Nikolai Grek
                    Quote: Svetlana
                    when his EBN took over as president

                    what what how do you have confidence that his struggle brought ??? wassat wassat laughing laughing

                    Borka brought on the advice of Sobchak, and the initiative came from Birch. That’s all confidence.

                    what what who told you this ??? what what and why the same source did not tell you the version that the fight was asked to get off the steering wheel in a good way, until it finished off the country ??? belay belay laughing laughing
                    1. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 14
                      +2
                      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                      and why the same source did not tell you the version that the fight was asked to get off the steering wheel in a good way, until it finished off the country ???
                      Oh, amazing stories began about conspiracies, special operations, KhPP and so on. You yourself are not funny, believe in this nonsense?
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 17: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Greenwood
                        Quote: Nikolai the Greek
                        and why the same source did not tell you the version that the fight was asked to get off the steering wheel in a good way, until it finished off the country ???
                        Oh, amazing stories began about conspiracies, special operations, KhPP and so on. You yourself are not funny, believe in this nonsense?

                        that's where the nonsense !!! wink laughing laughing laughing
                        Quote: Greenwood
                        Borka brought on the advice of Sobchak, and the initiative came from Birch. That’s all confidence.
            2. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 23: 46
              0
              Quote: Dryuya2
              what did he do

              What I did, what I did ... I can’t close my accounts normally, what achievements are there !!! request wassat lol lol lol
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 11
          +2
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          that there is complete crap
          Where exactly?
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          Grudinin thoroughly with all his financial "frauds" !!!
          Which ones?
  7. Secretparadox
    Secretparadox 12 February 2018 13: 56
    +21
    Actually clear evidence that if Putin had a worthy competitor, he would never have won the election. A huge number of people vote for him only because the government does not allow the emergence of worthy competitors.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 12 February 2018 14: 15
      +6
      Actually clear evidence that if Putin had a worthy competitor, he would never have won the election. A huge number of people vote for him only because the government does not allow the emergence of worthy competitors.

      with the tongue removed and as always the military especially pensioners and state. young people working for GDP do not understand at all what it is and who it is. And people aged 30-45 do not go to the majority because some people think that everything is decided without them;
      In that year, I watched a picture when three young (one girl) people of about 20 years old saw Putin on a TV screen and began to speculate who the president is at the moment, Putin or Medvedev.
    2. yehat
      yehat 12 February 2018 14: 42
      +1
      it is not a matter of whether or not the appearance allows.
      it’s not necessary for a candidate to be worthy - it’s enough to be adequate and represent decent strength (a party or a coalition). A simple person with a good team is much better than an outstanding one without a team (we now have just the 2nd option).
      the problem is that the growth of such power is impossible and it is not Putin's problem - the problem is in a handful of oligarchs and monopolists who, with the help of lobbyists (LDPR, KPRF, EDRO), who feed at the expense of the budget and less decent methods, do not allow anyone else to exist.
  8. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 12 February 2018 13: 57
    +23
    Just not for Putin. Tired of enduring the impoverishment of the country. The bulk of friends of different ages, boycotting the elections. The polls are fake.
    1. dison
      dison 12 February 2018 15: 18
      +4
      Just not for Putin. Tired of enduring the impoverishment of the country. The bulk of friends of different ages, boycotting the elections. The polls are fake.


      Ie do you think that Putin will not be all in chocolate? So the chocolate king is already occupied by Ukraine. smile
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 18: 20
      +2
      Quote: Heterosigma
      The bulk of friends

      and the bulk of the acquaintances of the dogs, based on their measurements among their own, sincerely believes that most Russians are for the dogs !!! wink request laughing laughing laughing
  9. yehat
    yehat 12 February 2018 13: 59
    +1
    I do not intend to boycott the elections, but who to vote for?
    I don’t see a single candidate who would reflect my interests.
    the party that reflects and went to the polls was not allowed into the Duma due to nit-picking
    and what now? who to vote for? for the guarantor of what will not be better?
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 12 February 2018 14: 21
      +9
      I do not intend to boycott the elections, but who to vote for?
      I don’t see a single candidate who would reflect my interests.
      the party that reflects and went to the polls was not allowed into the Duma due to nit-picking
      and what now? who to vote for? for the guarantor of what will not be better?

      In this case, I would vote for Grudinin, they won’t give him the chance to become president, but with the second voting position there is a chance for us to see him in the prime minister’s chair (this is one plus or even two since it’s dangerous to immediately accept the power), but in the prime minister’s place it would be nice to see what he is capable of and the authorities will feel that there is also an opinion of the people who don’t like something good
      1. yehat
        yehat 12 February 2018 14: 26
        +4
        sternum is not qualified for the prime minister or president.
        This is a wedding general, who simply can not be allowed to go further than the governor’s chair.
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 12 February 2018 15: 06
          +10
          sternum is not qualified for the prime minister or president.
          This is a wedding general, who simply can not be allowed to go further than the governor’s chair.

          Who was ?????
          So we’ll live badly if half of the country thinks that the aliens are the Germans, the Poles are the Americans, and the Jews are finally double
          We are to blame, since some do not go to the polls, others whine that everyone decided for them, third crap wherever the fourth bury everyone’s eyes and meanwhile, the SERVANTS of the people buy up housing on the Cote d'Azur and drive home every month
          1. yehat
            yehat 12 February 2018 15: 12
            +2
            I repeat, a candidate can be a dummy if there is something behind it.
            And Grudinin is a dummy, but also a dummy behind him. Read his program -
            only slogans, no plans. Therefore, I am against him.
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 12 February 2018 15: 24
              +12
              I repeat, a candidate can be a dummy if there is something behind it.
              And Grudinin is a dummy, but also a dummy behind him. Read his program -
              only slogans, no plans. Therefore, I am against him.

              No, the dummy is an oval dog and a little Zhirik, and Grudinin has something to look at (the collective farm) stupidly go and see and talk to people who will say something about him, well, you know, if the people on the Grudinin collective farm were dissatisfied, all these people would now be seen Solovyov on the transfer
              1. yehat
                yehat 12 February 2018 15: 28
                +2
                the collective farm is wonderful. but running a country is completely different.
                By the way, Navalny’s program is more real than that of Grudinin.
                And the dog suddenly too)))
                1. nemec55
                  nemec55 12 February 2018 15: 53
                  +9
                  the collective farm is wonderful. but running a country is completely different

                  A little hereditary shoemaker seminar managed (and even how) there is in our time a worthy collective farmer
                  1. yehat
                    yehat 12 February 2018 16: 07
                    +3
                    this one, with the permission to say “son of a shoemaker”, had been working in the government for 10 years at a difficult time, before taking the helm and was engaged in party activities for several years. And he was not alone - he worked in a team of not the latest wiseacres. In fact, 15+ years of political career. What about the sternum? do not tell my slippers!
                    1. nemec55
                      nemec55 12 February 2018 16: 39
                      +3
                      As I understand it, you do not see anyone on the horizon except GDP
                      What will we do in 6 years? Medvedev? I think then it will be worse
                      1. yehat
                        yehat 12 February 2018 18: 17
                        0
                        do you read me at all
                        I and GDP, and Grudinin, and Navalny, and Sobchak, and Yavlinsky - all are unpleasant. , It remained from several evils of evil. chic choice.
                    2. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 13 February 2018 06: 15
                      +3
                      Quote: yehat
                      And he was not alone - he worked in a team of not the latest wiseacres.
                      Grudinin also works in a team. Quite extensive with that.
                2. aleks26
                  aleks26 12 February 2018 19: 01
                  0
                  Quote: yehat
                  And the dog suddenly too)))

                  Well, the State Department is not sleeping.
        2. kepmor
          kepmor 12 February 2018 15: 13
          +3
          ... it’s not the gods who burn the pots ...
        3. Jack
          Jack 12 February 2018 18: 35
          +3
          Why is Grudinin worse than Lukashenko?
          1. aleks26
            aleks26 12 February 2018 19: 03
            0
            And what is Lukashenko good for?
            1. Jack
              Jack 12 February 2018 20: 36
              +4
              To yours: "... And what is Lukashenko good for? ..." If you compare with Putin, then Lukashenko is better for EVERYONE!
            2. Svetlana
              Svetlana 12 February 2018 21: 08
              +6
              Quote: aleks26
              And what is Lukashenko good for?

              His country has an order incomparable with our lawlessness. Have you been to Belarus? Take a look and see. Poor live? Yes, but worthy! There are no beggars and homeless people, and we have on every corner. There are no blacks, all are white, there is no crime. And everyone works, everyone has enough work. And it is very important, probably, the main thing, that in addition to working production and agriculture, the Soviet education system is preserved there. For this alone, Old Man bowed low to the ground!
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 23: 53
                +2
                Quote: Svetlana
                Poor live?

                and what will happen if a freebie from Russia will end abruptly ??? repeat repeat laughing laughing laughing
                1. Svetlana
                  Svetlana 13 February 2018 00: 01
                  +3
                  Quote: Nikolai Grek
                  Quote: Svetlana
                  Poor live?

                  and what will happen if a freebie from Russia will end abruptly ??? repeat repeat laughing laughing laughing

                  They will work as they worked. And what will happen when the Soviet freebie in our country ends? And natural resources?
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 00: 07
                    +2
                    Quote: Svetlana
                    They will work as they worked.

                    the answer is wrong !! laughing laughing laughing
                    Quote: Svetlana
                    And what will happen when the Soviet freebie in our country ends?

                    Soviet freebie is long over !!! wink yes request wassat wassat
      2. Declarant
        Declarant 12 February 2018 19: 26
        0
        I notice that sometimes thoughts from completely different people converge when discussing a particular issue word for word. Totally agree with you. Especially on the premiere.
  10. BAI
    BAI 12 February 2018 14: 05
    +8
    How was it when Putin was on his first term?
    “I won’t vote for Yeltsin’s protege, I’ll only vote for Putin!”
    Nothing changed.
  11. Azazelo
    Azazelo 12 February 2018 14: 06
    +3
    We walked again to all kinds of markets and alcohol-washing stations - they conducted a survey called. At least one normally imputed physiognomy was shown by conducting these polls. They show only those who are "necessary", and ask only those who are needed. And then you understand the results provide. You know they live badly change whether you know everything is necessary. Lost it is already visible how bad it is, and brainless neighbors are not an example.
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      1. kepmor
        kepmor 12 February 2018 16: 03
        +3
        several millions of fellow citizens call "stupid liberal g ... om" ?????
        .... vile ... vile ...
        1. aleks26
          aleks26 12 February 2018 19: 05
          0
          Quote: kepmor
          call "stupid liberal g ... om" ?????

          GovHo, it is in GovHo Africa. What really offended by the truth
  13. Bomb
    Bomb 12 February 2018 14: 14
    +4
    You can calculate% here. For example, I won’t go to the polls and the clowning that is happening now confirms this decision even more. Just a circus with circus performers !!!
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 12 February 2018 14: 24
      +14
      Quote: Bomb
      For example, I will not go to the polls and the clowning that is happening now confirms this decision even more. Just a circus with circus performers

      That's when they just don’t choose the candidate whom you sympathize with, be so kind as not to rant about the circuses with horses after March 18, blame your ass for which it was too lazy to tear myself away from the sofa. hi
      1. Bomb
        Bomb 12 February 2018 15: 41
        +4
        Dear only the last sucker calls this "representation" of the election. Even shkolota already understands - the candidate in the person of GDP is the future president. There is no point in wasting time on this event.
        1. nemec55
          nemec55 12 February 2018 18: 11
          +2
          Dear only the last sucker calls this "representation" of the election. Even shkolota already understands - the candidate in the person of GDP is the future president. There is no point in wasting time on this event.

          Do not be rude to people
    2. Geterosigma
      Geterosigma 12 February 2018 15: 09
      +8
      those who did not go to the polls are officially recognized as clowns. They didn’t even try to change anything.
      1. Bomb
        Bomb 12 February 2018 16: 16
        0
        Putin is a president who has no rivals among all the cockerel in the form of candidates. From the side I look at the elections and understand that this is a rotten chicken coop in which you can’t change anything.
  14. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
    Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 12 February 2018 14: 16
    0
    POF as always; read the wording of the questions :)
  15. Satum
    Satum 12 February 2018 14: 24
    +2
    Ukraine teaches people nothing
  16. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 12 February 2018 14: 32
    +9
    It is necessary to boycott the Olympics, not the elections ...
  17. cedar
    cedar 12 February 2018 14: 40
    +7
    The choice of the people will not be great.
    Fight for the freedom of Russia under the leadership of the Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces Putin with the common enemy of the United States and NATO for the Russian people. Or, without Putin, fighting each other in a civil war, which the West will arrange without any problems. Those. self-destruction, which the enemy needs. We look at the example of Ukraine and think hard.
    Knowledgeable people say that today there is an invasion of Russia and its people, which is much worse than Hitler’s in the forty-first.
    See the root. This is not the next presidential election. It is a choice to be or not to be a country and its people.
    1. Geterosigma
      Geterosigma 12 February 2018 14: 59
      +11
      yes 2000 years already Russia is uniting against an external enemy forgetting about internal problems. The eternal war of the forces of good and evil .... not tired yet?
      1. yehat
        yehat 12 February 2018 15: 19
        +1
        Well, that was not always the case. After Alexander 3, Nikolai MK2 got a country that included modern Poland, the Baltic states, Finland, Manchuria, both Korea, eastern China almost to Beijing and almost all had normal relations. Small graters were perhaps with the Turks.
        1. Geterosigma
          Geterosigma 12 February 2018 15: 22
          +9
          it was sarcasm. I mean that the external enemy has always been and will always be in accordance with all the laws of geopolitics. And distracting people with aggressive propaganda is not a panacea for internal problems. When was the last time you heard the news release without mentioning the USA for example?
          1. yehat
            yehat 12 February 2018 15: 29
            +3
            I'm tired of stupid news and do not watch them anymore
            not even a TV at home.
            1. Geterosigma
              Geterosigma 12 February 2018 15: 56
              +3
              I, too, am tired and do not look at home. But I have to look at work because in the office where our shift is sitting out of 5 people the TV always works. And although I hide behind a book, you won’t close my ears. There’s just a fucking tongue.
            2. aleks26
              aleks26 13 February 2018 00: 34
              +2
              For that, go to the Internet where stupid, as you put it, news is not even at times, but by orders of magnitude more. The Internet, unfortunately, has long turned into a vile trash to which the zombie, oh, how far.
              1. Geterosigma
                Geterosigma 13 February 2018 10: 11
                +2
                in the internet you can find people and alternative sources where you can with critical thinking at least understand something by including Russia 24 you stupidly become the object of propaganda without alternative
    2. Geterosigma
      Geterosigma 12 February 2018 15: 07
      +13
      our propaganda on demonizing and suggesting to you personally via television that we are now (as always) surrounded by enemies and those problems that are not important inside the country ... but it’s important here ... tanks in the Baltic states and everywhere in the USA everywhere igil traps everywhere ...... that's how people distract. So in the United States too .... they find an external enemy and promote this business in their own country. And the people are rallying and rallying only becoming poorer and nothing is changing .. This external enemy has been surrounding us since 1945 and is crushing and 1000 more years will surround and crush and your ancestors will continue to vote for rallying against the enemy and live in poverty and continue not to live but to survive. And they will continue to pour in the ear that the external enemy is close, you need to rally around the leader.
    3. kepmor
      kepmor 12 February 2018 15: 16
      +5
      yeah ... Baba Vanga’s laurels are clearly haunting you, you are our prophet ...
    4. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 12 February 2018 15: 32
      +4
      Quote: cedar
      Or, without Putin, fighting each other in a civil war, which the West will arrange without any problems.
      Do you think Putin will not give up power in any case and unleash a civil war? Otherwise, I just don’t understand who will fight with whom ?!
    5. nemec55
      nemec55 12 February 2018 17: 08
      +3
      Knowledgeable people say that today there is an invasion of Russia and its people, which is much worse than Hitler’s in the forty-first.

      laughing They’ve already arrived, the oligarch on the oligarch in houses of billions mansions poke loots over the loot the same children all study abroad (in the bastard in our universities) and we’ll discuss road and armagedon for centuries
      A million times already wrote
      In order to defeat all enemies, we need people in our provincial village of Zadyryshchenka to live no worse than farmers in Bavaria. And when we have Russians leaving abroad more than Lithuanians to Lithuania, Poles to Poland, Germans to Germany, this is a paragraph of the Lord
      1. yehat
        yehat 12 February 2018 18: 21
        +1
        it’s impossible to live well everywhere. It will never be so pleasant in Oymyakon, as in the Maldives.
        But at least something good should be. And in our country there are hundreds of settlements that
        deprived of almost everything that makes life enjoyable.
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  19. Vend
    Vend 12 February 2018 14: 55
    +1
    Quote: lexus
    And you compare what happened in 90's and what happened now.

    It’s also my habit to compare the bad with the disgusting! Do you suggest rejoicing that there are several countries in the world that live worse?

    This is a very good habit, it allows you to see the progress in the country. And where does the other countries? I do not care about other countries. We are talking about Russia.
    1. Strips
      Strips 12 February 2018 15: 23
      +10
      Quote: Wend
      This is a very good habit, it allows you to see the progress in the country. And where does the other countries? I do not care about other countries. We are talking about Russia.


      Progress in the country can and should be compared not only within the country, but also with other countries - so it will be correct and logical.

      Take, for example, the 90s. Then life was sad. But 18 years of Putin’s power have already passed. 18 (!!!) years. A new generation of children under Putin has already grown up who will vote.
      Over the years, in the presence of the achievements of the USSR, high intellectual resources, high oil prices for quite a long time and other incomes, the current state of Russia, I believe, got stuck somewhere in the 2006-2008 years.

      For so many years, with so many resources, and so terribly, they must be managed.

      Even the reserve fund profiled.

      Therefore, look at other developed countries and you will see much more progress, much better, because there is no such enormous corruption and such poor leadership.

      Stop scaring 90 for years. Many years have passed and over the years much more could have been done than was done.
      1. Vend
        Vend 12 February 2018 15: 41
        +3
        Quote: Tiras
        Quote: Wend
        This is a very good habit, it allows you to see the progress in the country. And where does the other countries? I do not care about other countries. We are talking about Russia.


        Progress in the country can and should be compared not only within the country, but also with other countries - so it will be correct and logical.

        Take, for example, the 90s. Then life was sad. But 18 years of Putin’s power have already passed. 18 (!!!) years. A new generation of children under Putin has already grown up who will vote.
        Over the years, in the presence of the achievements of the USSR, high intellectual resources, high oil prices for quite a long time and other incomes, the current state of Russia, I believe, got stuck somewhere in the 2006-2008 years.

        For so many years, with so many resources, and so terribly, they must be managed.

        Even the reserve fund profiled.

        Therefore, look at other developed countries and you will see much more progress, much better, because there is no such enormous corruption and such poor leadership.

        Stop scaring 90 for years. Many years have passed and over the years much more could have been done than was done.

        Look at other countries, at least compare GDP growth and expenditure. Take a look at medicine in the USA at least.
    2. yehat
      yehat 12 February 2018 15: 31
      +5
      progress in the country was with 2000 - according to 2008 - this is a fact
      but from 2008 to 2017 I see a slow regression.
      1. Vend
        Vend 12 February 2018 15: 47
        +2
        Quote: yehat
        progress in the country was with 2000 - according to 2008 - this is a fact
        but from 2008 to 2017 I see a slow regression.

        Regress speak. But look at the example of maternity capital. 2007 is 250 000, and 2014 440 000. Or the mortgage as a percentage decreased from a minimum of 13,7 to 10. Is the construction of the Crimean bridge and the Vostochny spaceport also a regression?
        1. Geterosigma
          Geterosigma 12 February 2018 16: 03
          +9
          When opening a refrigerator or coming to a clinic, grandmother first of all thinks about the Vostochny Cosmodrome and the Crimean Bridge.
          1. Vend
            Vend 12 February 2018 16: 11
            +4
            Quote: Heterosigma
            When opening a refrigerator or coming to a clinic, grandmother first of all thinks about the Vostochny Cosmodrome and the Crimean Bridge.

            Are you a sufferer for granny? You would talk to older people, and not hide behind their name.
            1. Geterosigma
              Geterosigma 12 February 2018 16: 35
              0
              Older people do not go to the polls. All 100 percent of whom I know.
              1. Vend
                Vend 12 February 2018 16: 45
                +3
                Quote: Heterosigma
                Older people do not go to the polls. All 100 percent of whom I know.

                Well speaks for itself laughing And do you know many? It is very easy to recognize the troll; it operates with masses. and with 100% confidence transferring their cries to the whole country. laughing
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 18: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: Wend
                  Troll recognition is very easy,

                  Apparently, the fresh ones rolled up ... and even for greater persuasiveness, they spread here among themselves "highly intellectual" discussions !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
                  1. Geterosigma
                    Geterosigma 12 February 2018 18: 35
                    0
                    no, it seems that you just have paranoia.
                    1. Vend
                      Vend 13 February 2018 10: 04
                      +2
                      Quote: Heterosigma
                      no, it seems that you just have paranoia.

                      If you call paranoia a personal opinion, then welcome to the club. You are no different from the others.
                2. Geterosigma
                  Geterosigma 12 February 2018 18: 35
                  0
                  Yes, yes, Troll, of course, yeah, think what you like. Laugh. Laugh. Laugh prolongs. But I see that no one is going to the polls. And at the enterprise, as soon as I ask about who to vote for, then immediately smile and answer. And what is the point of going everything is decided . These are not my words, they say they are. This is a fact. And your attitude towards this does not change.
          2. yehat
            yehat 12 February 2018 18: 22
            0
            and feverishly counts how many bombs were dropped in Syria today)))
        2. nemec55
          nemec55 12 February 2018 16: 04
          +2
          Regress speak. But look at the example of maternity capital. 2007 is 250 000, and 2014 440 000. Or the mortgage as a percentage decreased from a minimum of 13,7 to 10. Is the construction of the Crimean bridge and the Vostochny spaceport also a regression?

          Summary: YES
        3. yehat
          yehat 12 February 2018 16: 12
          +3
          the construction of the Crimean bridge is certainly not an achievement.
          This is a project of great value, which is being implemented.
          It would be better if 100 bridges were built in Siberia
          1. Vend
            Vend 12 February 2018 16: 19
            +2
            Quote: yehat
            the construction of the Crimean bridge is certainly not an achievement.
            This is a project of great value, which is being implemented.
            It would be better if 100 bridges were built in Siberia

            Yes you. A weak economic country would not be able to implement such a project. Many projects of this scale were implemented in 90's? All large construction projects are forced by the economic or political situation. BAM, DNEROGES and so on.
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 12 February 2018 17: 12
              +3
              laughing Crimean bridge is a kindergarten for construction sites in China
              Google at your leisure bridges in the Middle Kingdom only sit on a chair
              And our construction of the century in the eyes turns into a children's railroad
              1. dison
                dison 12 February 2018 17: 45
                +4
                laughing Crimean bridge is a kindergarten for construction sites in China
                Google at your leisure bridges in the Middle Kingdom only sit on a chair
                And our construction of the century in the eyes turns into a children's railroad

                It is not clear why you are so happy? To humiliate your country to you in joy? All just to cheat.
              2. Vend
                Vend 12 February 2018 18: 32
                +2
                Quote: nemec55
                laughing Crimean bridge is a kindergarten for construction sites in China
                Google at your leisure bridges in the Middle Kingdom only sit on a chair
                And our construction of the century in the eyes turns into a children's railroad

                And where does China? Each country proceeds from its financial capabilities. In China alone, in Russia others.
            2. yehat
              yehat 12 February 2018 18: 27
              +2
              Sorry, but to build an expensive bridge in order to drive was pleasant, it is too much. We have a lot of problems in central Russia that have not been solved for decades, but a very expensive bridge is more important. For the loot that was spent on the bridge and for the "pacification" of Ukraine, it would be possible to ensure that everyone travels through Ukraine with a live orchestra, and every Ukrainian that you would meet would give you his own lard.
              We built the bridge not at Chinese prices, but at our exclusive.
              The builders of the zenith arena with envy write boiling water.
  20. Breard
    Breard 12 February 2018 14: 56
    +5
    For anyone, even for a talking horse, but not for an appointee ... you..dka Yeltsin
  21. Strips
    Strips 12 February 2018 15: 06
    +19
    People say that the boycott of the elections does not solve the problems that “who, if not Putin,” and also “should choose the person who would rule the country”.


    Putin well done. For all the years of his reign, he completely eliminated the competition for power, did not allow any high-quality competitor to rise, taking control of the media and the judiciary, as before, he left puppet candidates who get their piece, but nothing more.
    Here people don’t have any options - either Putin or the one he will supply. And wild corruption, impoverishment of the population, shameful pensions and salaries, prices are constantly rising, sanctions - this is all politics for 18 years.
    When oil was for $ 100 and above, the money flowed, but was used for other purposes (were not invested in the construction of schools, kindergartens, medicine, economic development in different directions) + enormous corruption. Oil fell, people began to suck out money from the people with new taxes.
    Recently they closed the reserve fund because they used the money from there, they started taking from the NWF, which began to cover the deficit of the pension fund.

    And the people have nowhere to go since vote do not vote, Putin will still be.

    And it's amazing - such a huge country, a country of educated people, with so many resources and drive into such a life.

    The dashing 90s are long over and for so much time, with such a long, good oil price, it is still ridiculous to refer, as some do, to the fact that - like, they just recently lived badly.

    Putin has been in power for 18 years, and the country has been stuck in its development for a very long time and this is very sad.
    1. lemal200
      lemal200 12 February 2018 15: 20
      +4
      That's it to the point!
      1. dison
        dison 12 February 2018 15: 35
        +4
        That's it to the point!

        And what exactly is that? Do you think it’s so easy to raise a country? Look at the rest of the countries of the former USSR, their territories can not be compared with Russia, but something is not visible so that they live better.
        PS One Ukraine lived well, and even then I wanted a change, now everything is in chocolate.
        1. Strips
          Strips 12 February 2018 15: 46
          +9
          Quote: dison
          Do you think it’s so easy to raise a country? Look at the other countries of the former USSR, their territories can not be compared with Russia, but something is not visible so that they live better.


          Raising it was not easy, but with the resources that Putin had from the 2000 of the year, it was not only possible to raise it, but also to take many steps forward.
          1. dison
            dison 12 February 2018 16: 18
            +3
            Raising it was not easy, but with the resources that Putin had from the 2000 of the year, it was not only possible to raise it, but also to take many steps forward.

            But nothing that Russia, as the successor to the USSR, took over and paid all the debts?
            At the same time, the gold reserve has grown several times. The whole army was rearmament, and the country begins with the army.
          2. Vend
            Vend 12 February 2018 18: 34
            +2
            Quote: Tiras
            Quote: dison
            Do you think it’s so easy to raise a country? Look at the other countries of the former USSR, their territories can not be compared with Russia, but something is not visible so that they live better.


            Raising it was not easy, but with the resources that Putin had from the 2000 of the year, it was not only possible to raise it, but also to take many steps forward.

            Look at Trump or Dodon, do they really manage to change the situation in countries? Nothing can be done alone, and a team is not created in one year.
        2. lemal200
          lemal200 12 February 2018 16: 14
          +2
          Do not compare Russia with the former USSR countries, I
          Himself from Uzbekistan. And what has been done in 18 years is FEW. And the poor country is rightly said!
          1. dison
            dison 12 February 2018 16: 45
            +2
            Do not compare Russia with the former USSR countries,я
            himself from Uzbekistan
            .

            This is not an argument.
            1. nemec55
              nemec55 12 February 2018 17: 14
              +1
              In our country, by the way, pits on the roads won, we just stopped talking about them.
              laughing
        3. Geterosigma
          Geterosigma 12 February 2018 16: 37
          0
          but do not forget that they do not have such energy resources.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 18: 30
            +2
            Quote: Heterosigma
            but do not forget that they do not have such energy resources.

            what energy resources ??? what what to be honest, we already got your tales about huge energy resources ... also the subsequent comparison with other mining countries !!! as if Russia immediately extracted all its resources, sold them all at once, reduced its territory to the size of the countries being compared and, in addition, reduced the population to these countries as well !!! fool fool fool laughing laughing
      2. yehat
        yehat 12 February 2018 15: 35
        +6
        no, not to the point. For some reason, everyone rests on the fact that Putin decides how the country will live.
        Is that so ??? I do not think so.
        the fact that the country is slowly degrading, wasting time and resources, and that our sun-faced GDP
        this will not change. Apparently, his strength was enough only to stabilize the patient's pulse. And to sew up wounds to others.
        1. Strips
          Strips 12 February 2018 15: 45
          +6
          Quote: yehat
          Is that so ??? I do not think so.


          Putin will not give up power. He will hand it over when he decides that everything is already in place, it is time to retire.
          Therefore, yes, it is he who decides how the country will live since there is no real democracy, the courts obey the authorities, the media obey the authorities. The people do not elect a president in Russia. It is a fact. The president is being imposed on the people, creating the illusion of democracy.
          1. yehat
            yehat 12 February 2018 18: 30
            0
            Putin will not give up power

            what kind of power? he has a little more than zero power inside his country.
            here he is not a dimon to you - power))) and he sneezed at whether someone likes it or not.
    2. Bomb
      Bomb 12 February 2018 15: 48
      +7
      All right. More than half of the working Russians go to the bank for a loan for a car and an apartment, and then live like beggars collecting a piece of bread and sausages.
      1. dison
        dison 12 February 2018 16: 55
        +2
        All right. More than half of the working Russians go to the bank for a loan for a car and an apartment, and then live like beggars collecting a piece of bread and sausages.

        You forgot about the iPhone.
        1. Bomb
          Bomb 13 February 2018 17: 48
          0
          You better say right away that I'm a talker and balabol. And the average salary in the Russian Federation is not 35000 rubles. Bread and loaf in the store is not 50 rubles. it costs 10. And gasoline at gas stations continues to get cheaper.
  22. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 12 February 2018 15: 19
    +16
    Quote: lexus
    And what did she achieve? Missiles do not take off, planes fall, citizens - beggars, and embezzlers and oligarchs at the feeding trough.

    We have achieved an unprecedented increase in the number of billionaires and now we occupy a leading position in the world!
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 12 February 2018 15: 35
      +9
      Quote: Stroporez
      We have achieved an unprecedented increase in the number of billionaires and now we occupy a leading position in the world!

      Well, you still have to be patient and then everyone will become a billionaire, over time, lead their number is growing, everything is logical laughing it is strange that zaputintsy have not yet adopted
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 12 February 2018 16: 14
        +2
        nothing strange ... there was no team from the Kremlin ... but they only had everything on command ... instinct ...
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 12 February 2018 18: 37
      +1
      Quote: Stroporez
      We have achieved an unprecedented increase in the number of billionaires and now we occupy a leading position in the world!

      recourse recourse recourse do not whistle !!! fool fool laughing laughing laughing
      In 2017, Forbes counted 2043 billionaires around the world, a year ago there were 1810: commodity and financial markets are growing. The total fortune of world billionaires rose to $ 7,7 trillion from $ 6,5 trillion, while the average fortune increased to $ 3,8 billion from $ 3,6 billion. The first place in terms of the number of US billionaires (565 people), the second is China ( 319), the third is Germany (114). Then come India (114) and Russia (96).
  23. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 12 February 2018 15: 24
    +7
    I didn’t come on March 18 - your vote went “for Putin” - here without options.
    Came March 18 - you can make a choice yourself.
    A joke of humor! yes
    1. yehat
      yehat 12 February 2018 15: 36
      0
      for Putin))) or for Sobchak)))
      1. shuravi
        shuravi 12 February 2018 15: 39
        +5
        Quote: yehat
        for Putin))) or for Sobchak)))


        This is one team.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 47
          -1
          Perhaps they are generally ALL - one team.
          Here is a surprise ...
    2. yehat
      yehat 12 February 2018 15: 43
      +1
      the whole essence of the election is shown
  24. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 12 February 2018 16: 16
    +2
    oops, it started ... they threw a bone to suck, and the local couch warriors began to squeak and drool and scream for their candidates ... what do you really think sitting on the couch can you change something? what are you going to yell for sternum, dog there, Zhirinovsky and the country will get a blunder? ugh on you ... iksperdy sit here and think, they’re dreaming straight - uncle will come and make all their wishes, why strain yourself ... start from the beginning, change your lifestyle, start not only to show activity on the couch, but then you gulp for a change of power and the rest of your Wishlist ... button-clicks are useless
    1. Geterosigma
      Geterosigma 12 February 2018 16: 38
      +1
      have long since begun on their own. Therefore, they are still alive.
    2. nemec55
      nemec55 12 February 2018 17: 18
      0
      oops, it started ... they threw a bone to suck, and the local couch warriors began to squeak and drool and scream for their candidates ... what do you really think sitting on the couch can you change something? what are you going to yell for sternum, dog there, Zhirinovsky and the country will get a blunder? ugh on you ... iksperdy sit here and think, they’re dreaming straight - uncle will come and make all their wishes, why strain yourself ... start from the beginning, change your lifestyle, start not only to show activity on the couch, but then you gulp for a change of power and the rest of your Wishlist ... button-clicks are useless

      Hero h.rov what do you know every local writer in the eye? Did you sit on the couch together?
      1. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 13 February 2018 16: 09
        0
        what really pricked, connoisseur h.rov?
    3. free
      free 13 February 2018 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
      oops, it started ... they threw a bone to suck, and the local couch warriors began to squeak and drool and scream for their candidates ... what do you really think sitting on the couch can you change something? what are you going to yell for sternum, dog there, Zhirinovsky and the country will get a blunder? ugh on you ... iksperdy sit here and think, they’re dreaming straight - uncle will come and make all their wishes, why strain yourself ... start from the beginning, change your lifestyle, start not only to show activity on the couch, but then you gulp for a change of power and the rest of your Wishlist ... button-clicks are useless

      Advise where to start? Rudeness is not the best tactic!
      1. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 13 February 2018 16: 09
        0
        But are there brains or, as usual, someone else's uncle should decide everything for you? and where is rudeness? it's a bitter truth
  25. cedar
    cedar 12 February 2018 16: 18
    +3
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    Quote: cedar
    Or, without Putin, fighting each other in a civil war, which the West will arrange without any problems.
    Do you think Putin will not give up power in any case and unleash a civil war? Otherwise, I just don’t understand who will fight with whom ?!


    The war is already underway, but Putin is holding the country back from civilian life. It's all about the introduction of martial law in the country. When it will be entered then you will understand. The main thing is that it would not be too late.
  26. Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 February 2018 16: 19
    +4


    close to real.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 45
      -1
      Yes, let it be on health.
      If only they came to the polls.
      So after all, you will be yelling then that the fraud, that, as always, the authorities have deceived, "because it cannot be trusted," and this, of course, "everyone knows."
      Honestly, those who are going to vote for Putin will probably not do this if your Grudinin wins.
  27. Vend
    Vend 12 February 2018 16: 38
    +2
    Sofa General,
    Where else? Name at least one country. No need to make a monster from Russia, when it is a single working system for the whole world.
  28. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 12 February 2018 18: 00
    +1
    Quote: yehat
    sternum is not qualified for the prime minister or president.

    Did artist Reagan have?
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 13 February 2018 02: 27
      +1
      This artist and athlete actually before his presidency for many years was the governor of the state.
  29. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 12 February 2018 18: 05
    0
    Quote: yehat
    the construction of the Crimean bridge is certainly not an achievement.

    The Chinese are, without noise, dozens of build.
  30. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 12 February 2018 18: 42
    +2


    Qingdao bridge across the bay cost $ 16 billion, and its length is an impressive 42,5 kilometers
    The fourth cosmodrome in the country (China)
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 34
      -1
      Do you live in China and campaign for a Chinese candidate in the Chinese election?
  31. Jack
    Jack 12 February 2018 18: 49
    +5
    Obviously, the current government is leading the country into the abyss.
    Elections are a chance of salvation. Not 100%, but a chance!
    Boycott = 100% loss!
    And it makes sense to support the most promising candidate, so that your vote does not go into the sand ...
    Despite the groaning and silence of the official media, this candidate is ahead of all independent polls: https: //my-president.rf/
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 38
      -1
      The current government is much trickier than you, dear guys.
      But how does it turn out that your Grudinin is a Kremlin project, and what we are observing now is Operation Successor 2?
      It’s a kind of cunning way and the legitimacy of the elections to raise, and to direct the interest of the opposition electorate in the right direction.
      Especially the electorate, or rather its irresponsible part, crouching in convulsions from the phrase "Putin is our President."
      I give an idea, zagrudinins.
  32. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 12 February 2018 19: 30
    0
    I would answer this way: there is simply no one to choose from! In any case, Putin does not have not only the vast majority, but simply the majority of the electorate that must vote.
  33. Imh
    Imh 12 February 2018 21: 17
    +1
    I’ll go to these elections 100%. I’ll come to the Russian Embassy and give my vote for a worthy candidate.
    1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
      Crane operator Nahamkinson 12 February 2018 21: 30
      +3
      Whoever won the election.
      And your benny, how you polished the rapids in
      Kremlin, and will be polished.
  34. Snakebyte
    Snakebyte 12 February 2018 22: 41
    +1
    I am glad that 49% of the population have brains.
  35. akunin
    akunin 13 February 2018 06: 23
    0
    the first elections that I won’t go under any conditions (before that I always went, even to local ones).
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 29
      0
      Tailwind.
  36. Vend
    Vend 13 February 2018 09: 56
    +1
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Wend
    Do you want to look dumber than you are? Your right.

    laughing Waiting for a construct from the Zaputinsky troll, a thankless task. yes

    Well, from me there are no constructive offers. Flare your intellect, tell your suggestions liberal pro-Western Troll
  37. Vend
    Vend 13 February 2018 11: 55
    0
    free,
    Krishna rules are not for me. I respect people for their deeds and actions, and not for the fact that they simply are. I will not respect a person for meanness, lies, betrayal, etc.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 32
      0
      Excellent.
      What kind of deeds and actions did personally for you, whoever of the candidates, except Putin naturally?
      Well, that could be said with confidence - that this particular one is not vile, not lying, and not a traitor.
      1. Vend
        Vend 13 February 2018 15: 42
        +1
        Quote: Mestny
        Excellent.
        What kind of deeds and actions did personally for you, whoever of the candidates, except Putin naturally?
        Well, that could be said with confidence - that this particular one is not vile, not lying, and not a traitor.

        So I'm talking about the fact that they did nothing but Putin. So there is nothing to respect these candidates for me. But I respect Putin and I will vote for him.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 13 February 2018 16: 50
          0
          That's it.
          Well, he would have worked in government structures, for example, as governor or minister for 10 years — it would have become more or less clear that we would have known something about him as a manager.
          Both Reagan and Stalin were mentioned above - so they really worked in power before this, before the presidency.
          And so - who is what? And taking into account how many scammers usually try to creep into power, there is no trust yet.
          And he can’t prove the opposite. Well, the chairman of the state farm, even if it is near Moscow, is this not an argument for governing the country? It’s funny.
          Of course, this is an attempt by some forces to "saddle" nostalgia for the USSR and socialism, hence the "chairman of the state farm", the "concern" for national happiness (as it was allegedly in the USSR).
          But - weakly, weakly. Somehow rotten, according to Zyuganovsky.

          This, of course, I understand about whom. This cannot be said about the other candidates besides the fact that none of them is related to the higher echelons of power. But besides this, the rest and nonsense are even greater, either in the style of a completely decayed liberal ideology, or in the general style of the populism of patients in a psychiatric clinic.
          For some reason, many of us think that learning to manage a country can begin right on the spot. He took office - and began to study methods to develop.
          And this, of course, is completely different.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 13 February 2018 18: 12
            +1
            Quote: Mestny
            Well, he would have worked in government structures, for example, as governor or minister for 10 years — it would have become more or less clear that we would have known something about him as a manager.
            And how many useful things did Putin work in the administration of Sobchak? What managerial qualities showed? Did you even know him before 1999?
            Quote: Mestny
            Well, the chairman of the state farm, even if it is near Moscow, is this not an argument for governing the country? It’s funny.
            Those. Is there some assistant to the former governor of St. Petersburg - a more worthy candidate? Well, it's funny. lol
  38. Petr1968
    Petr1968 13 February 2018 12: 53
    0
    Why are pre-elections called Elections?
  39. Mestny
    Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 28
    -1
    Quote: yehat
    tell me, what Putin has done really useful for the people of the Russian Federation in the last term, except for formal performance of duties? I can say about Syria, about Crimeans too, and about migrant workers. What about us?

    It’s not what he did. The thing is who is trying to replace him.
  40. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 13 February 2018 15: 34
    0
    No ... the movie character from Kin-Dza-Dza was right ...
    Without color differentiation, society is doomed!
    It would seem that what is easiest to do?
    Yes, just do not put in the booths, namely, openly, in the middle of the hall TRANSPARENT ballot boxes, next to the waste machine, and assign each candidate a ballot of a certain color. Well, and if there are ballots, all are numbered. And all, of course, under video cameras from 33 angles.
    You can howl about the secrecy of the election ... Just think, why should they be secret?
    Yes, so that no one knows the true truth.
    Or is it not democracy, but dictatorship and you are all afraid of something ?!
    Understand that they are afraid of you, the truth, your choice ... and much more ..
    But we are afraid of nothing, beside fools and scoundrels, we have seen enough of them for the past 18 years.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 13 February 2018 17: 06
      -1
      For the abolition of secret ballot in elections, contact the founders of American democracy.
      In our country, the corresponding procedure is determined by the laws of the Russian Federation
      I inform all the fighters against tyranny and unfair laws: when suddenly even bigger freedom fighters than you suddenly come to your apartment and kill your family - then you can howl about observing the laws on personal integrity. Just think - your killers will tell you - why they should be respected, if WE consider them wrong.
      "Appetite comes with eating"
      And when not you who made a small first step, trampled a small one. worthless, inconspicuous tip, trample the dirty boot of the more radical followers following you.
      Hello revolutionaries!
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 13 February 2018 17: 07
        0
        Black always come for gray ... (c)
  41. Mestny
    Mestny 13 February 2018 15: 49
    -1
    Quote: Tiras
    Putin will not give up power. He will hand it over when he decides that everything is already in place, it is time to retire.

    Who told you that this time he was not going to do it?
    Well, it won’t work like Yeltsin’s - "I'm tired. I'm leaving." And "here is my successor"
    We need a democratic procedure with all the attributes - elections, agitation, "struggle".
  42. Mestny
    Mestny 13 February 2018 16: 17
    -1
    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
    For example, the famous actress L. Akhedzhakova said: “I no longer want to be objective. <...> What is this damned Constitution ?! … My friends! Wake up! Do not sleep! The fate of unhappy Russia, our unhappy Motherland, is being decided tonight. Our unfortunate homeland is in danger! Do not sleep! We are facing terrible things. The communists will come again! "

    This is in 1991.
    The communists did not come. In the next 10 years, the country lost about 15 million people, most of the industry, and was on the verge of final collapse.
    But Akhidzhakova’s everything is in perfect order.
  43. Mestny
    Mestny 13 February 2018 16: 38
    -1
    Quote: Svetlana
    Borka brought on the advice of Sobchak, and the initiative came from Birch. That’s all confidence.

    Well, that is, I don’t know Nikerta, I haven’t studied anywhere, but I have an authoritative opinion.
  44. Ingvar0401
    Ingvar0401 13 February 2018 16: 52
    +1
    Back in 2001, I read one interesting note - GDP, when he came to power after the EBN, it was necessary to cancel the results of privatization (drunk was Borya, didn’t think anything, etc.) and carry it out again. In such a way that the state would have 70% ownership of natural resources, railways, aviation ... Then there would be no moronic prices for gasoline and everything else .....