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Russian Su-30 created a furore at the air show

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The Singapore Airshow-2018 International Air Show ended in Singapore. The products of most of the world's aircraft manufacturers were represented at it.


The Russian exposition consisted of models and models of combat and civilian aircraft, as well as space satellites. United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) held a presentation of the domestic engine PD-14, which will be equipped with the latest passenger airliner MC-21.

A special place in the exhibition was occupied by the types of combat aircraft involved in the Syrian operation. Su-35, Su-30, MiG-29K fighters, as well as Su-34 bombers were shown along with the means of destruction.

One of them, the Su-30 fighter, carried out an exemplary flight program in the Singapore sky, evoking the visitors. This is not the first time that Russian aircraft cause a stir among the public.

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  1. Firework
    Firework 12 February 2018 13: 42
    +2
    all of these aircraft today, of the new only Su-57
    What is the advantage of over-maneuverability?
    1. Pavil144
      Pavil144 12 February 2018 14: 17
      +2
      Probably in BVB gives an advantage.
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    3. figwam
      figwam 12 February 2018 14: 18
      +15
      Quote: Salute
      all of these aircraft today, of the new only Su-57
      What is the advantage of over-maneuverability?

      A strange question, but what advantage does not maneuverability give?
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 12 February 2018 14: 38
        0
        You always need to sacrifice something ... that's why they are looking for the best option between maneuverability, speed, visibility, armament and other parameters ...
    4. Falcond
      Falcond 12 February 2018 14: 36
      +10
      1. The advantage in close combat. "Cobra Pugacheva" you can easily go into the tail ...
      2. More likely to escape from enemy fire by maneuver.

      So, ceteris paribus, increased maneuverability is an advantage, albeit not always obvious!
      1. Firework
        Firework 12 February 2018 14: 38
        +2
        perhaps avoiding MANPADS? if the start is double?
        1. figwam
          figwam 12 February 2018 14: 50
          +8
          Quote: Salute
          perhaps avoiding MANPADS? if the start is double?

          In an air battle, an aircraft needs maneuver to take an advantageous position when attacking the enemy, and an electronic warfare system works against the air defense, above 5 km MANPADS are not dangerous.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 13 February 2018 01: 00
          +5
          Quote: Salute
          perhaps avoiding MANPADS? if the start is double?

          Fighters extremely rarely fly at such altitudes, so that they can be reached by MANPADS.
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 February 2018 17: 58
      +14
      Quote: Salute
      What is the advantage of over-maneuverability?

      In a dog landfill gives an advantage, and not controversial. Avoiding enemy missiles. The main losses in aerial combat are when using medium and short-range missiles, that is, at counter speeds, a dog dump is more than possible.
      Much more controversial is the stealth technology, on which mattresses rely so much, sacrificing maneuverability because of it, if we take into account that the radars do not stand still, but are improved.
    6. Ncplc
      Ncplc 13 February 2018 04: 11
      +1
      Beautiful performances at speeds close to stall are different from BBs as well as figure skating from hockey (the speeds are not the same), modern combat takes place at speeds of about 0.5-0.7 max, can SU repeat all this at the same speed ????
      1. lance
        lance 13 February 2018 04: 42
        +11
        a good example of figure skating if we recall the storm and the Maltsev, who began with figure skating. solo passages from their zone with a puck at the opponent’s goal were not isolated cases for them.
      2. Lexus
        Lexus 18 February 2018 09: 18
        +1
        Can and much more. And surprise and disappoint.
    7. Sergey Polt
      Sergey Polt 13 February 2018 16: 57
      +2
      Can someone tell the amateur what gives a double tail?
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 13 February 2018 22: 12
        +3
        When the plane is abruptly converted to climb, the keel is often in the area of ​​the serodynamic shadow of the fesulage. To avoid this, they divide it into two and take it out to the edges of the fuselage.
        1. Sergey Polt
          Sergey Polt 15 February 2018 19: 25
          0
          Thank. I get it. And then everyone thought that for beauty ...
    8. Bratkov Oleg
      Bratkov Oleg 13 February 2018 20: 52
      +2
      Even during the Vietnam War, maneuverability was yesterday, and American fighters, long-range missiles, shot enemy aircraft even beyond the horizon.
      But something went wrong there ... And with the tanks, they thought that the T-70 is old ... And it still has more than one Leopard or Abrams to beat its teeth after modernization.
      Well, with invisibility ... Well, the war will begin, well, these flying troughs of long-range vision are driven in the first place, the invisibles will have to turn on their own radars, and oops, they have no advantages over ultra-maneuverable aircraft, and even vice versa, solid flaws.
      1. Firework
        Firework 14 February 2018 09: 54
        +2
        not T-70 but T-72
    9. Berlin1945
      Berlin1945 15 February 2018 15: 16
      +1
      Only the battle will solve, real and not virtual. Character, training, pilot skill
    10. Maz
      Maz 16 February 2018 22: 18
      +3
      Quote: Salute
      all of these aircraft today, of the new only Su-57
      What is the advantage of over-maneuverability?

      It gives the following. The position of the aircraft in space is sharp to me - you disappear from the radar screen - first. The second - drastically changing the position of the aircraft, the direction of flight and releasing traps - fool rockets fired into your hot thermal ass. Third - from the position of the attacked instantly switch to the position of the attacker. A hundred and eighty horizontal turns confuse the air defense radar. When you go down and rotate around the vertical axis at the same time, scan the air environment around you for three hundred and sixty degrees and destroy the identified targets, while dumping in any direction, choosing according to the situation. This is at least. As a result, the expensive F-35 finds itself in a deep anal passage with all its bells and whistles. And just something - aerodynamics, engines and pilot skill.
    11. evgeny68
      evgeny68 17 February 2018 19: 07
      0
      So just from nothing to do, super-maneuverability is needed .. Hundreds of minds, the best minds calculate the development prospects and do it, and you are at the level of why the heck a Mercedes is for me and a penny machine.
  2. Egorovich
    Egorovich 12 February 2018 13: 47
    +11
    good Soviet-Russian aircraft are the best in the world !!! ALL!!!
  3. cedar
    cedar 12 February 2018 14: 06
    +12
    Designers, engineers, workers and pilots bow to the plane for a wonderful and wonderful aerobatics!
  4. Ivan Tarava
    Ivan Tarava 12 February 2018 14: 41
    +1
    It turns out that heat traps are only charged at exhibitions. Are they so direct expensive?
  5. victorsh
    victorsh 12 February 2018 14: 41
    +5
    I watched the video with great pleasure! Thank you ALL.
  6. Pavil144
    Pavil144 12 February 2018 15: 26
    0
    Is there a “small wings” on the Su 30 or am I confusing something unless they are on the Su 33
    1. NN52
      NN52 12 February 2018 16: 13
      +10
      In the video, Su 30CM.
      He has PGO
    2. CentDo
      CentDo 12 February 2018 17: 57
      0
      In the first modifications of the PGO was not. First appeared on the Su 30MKI, if I'm not mistaken.
      1. aviator65
        aviator65 17 February 2018 23: 58
        0
        They were on the first modifications, including the Su-30M. (MKI - export version for China and India). Subsequent modifications received a modified glider without PGO.
        1. CentDo
          CentDo 19 February 2018 12: 59
          0
          Do you have any PGO on your Su-30SM?
  7. senima56
    senima56 12 February 2018 17: 48
    +1
    "Delight, excitement, genuine interest ..." Where are the contracts? Contracts ?!
    1. Wreaper
      Wreaper 13 February 2018 10: 14
      +1
      Do you think that contracts are concluded only on product qualities? xD What planet do you live on?
  8. mole
    mole 12 February 2018 21: 11
    0
    As always, looked at one go!
  9. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 12 February 2018 22: 07
    +3
    Where the vaunted p.i.nd.so.s.a.s.v.s.k.i.e. fe-35, nervously smoking aside
  10. Igor Emelyanenko
    Igor Emelyanenko 12 February 2018 23: 27
    +2
    Although I am a sailor, but on the video: BEAUTY, POWER, POWER !!!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 13 February 2018 01: 14
      +6
      Quote: Igor Emelianenko
      Although I am a sailor, but on the video: BEAUTY, POWER, POWER !!!

      Well, the SU-57 will be cooler and more maneuverable ... only he can execute some figures.
      1. lance
        lance 13 February 2018 04: 49
        0
        the statement is very controversial, but very tempting
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 13 February 2018 11: 25
          +6
          Quote: Lance
          the statement is very controversial, but very tempting

          This statement was voiced by Bogdan. hi
      2. aviator65
        aviator65 18 February 2018 00: 11
        0
        Beautiful, of course. But it’s painfully kind of "twitchy" picture belay - to the operator "-". For me, aerobatics "30" seemed more harmonious. By the way, at MAKS2013 the performance of the T-50 pair was also not very impressive after the performance of the same Su-30. Maybe they didn’t want to demonstrate all the potential then? request
  11. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 13 February 2018 10: 57
    +3
    When at 2.10 minutes he went into a flat corkscrew, his heart stopped beating. The audience in the stands probably grabbed the testicles, "well, that's it, Russian kerdyk." But no, this is such a forbidden technique. In general, everything looks amazing.
  12. tchoni
    tchoni 13 February 2018 22: 15
    0
    Well here again! Amused Thais, Malaysians, Jewish Arabs, Germans, Americans. We worked as clowns))) With what I congratulate everyone.
  13. Gulnara
    Gulnara 14 February 2018 01: 41
    0
    great performance! beauties!
  14. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 16 February 2018 05: 37
    +1
    Already got this trembling about advertising attacks "Rosoboronexport" and "Rostec". Someone froze there, not having eaten a hamburger, something else. It is neither hot nor cold for the Russian armed forces from such exhibitions, since the equipment arrives in combat units in small quantities, much more sold. If Russia is really on the verge of major military events, then this is a crime, a demonstration (advertising) and the sale of weapons. !!!
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 18 February 2018 00: 34
      +1
      Correctly! Let everyone buy from our sworn partners. The currency didn’t give up to us!
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      because the equipment in the combat parts comes in small quantities, much more sold.

      It comes in exactly such quantities that can afford to purchase MO. Those. proceeding from what it receives from the state budget, which also receives money, including received from sales. Well, not a single oil and gas! what
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      If Russia is really on the verge of major military events

      Well, then - "Everything for the front, everything for the victory!". We switch to the card system, introduce a 12-hour working day, cancel vacations, holidays, weekends and other amenities of a peaceful life. I, as I understand it, are you ready for this? soldier
  15. Maz
    Maz 16 February 2018 22: 26
    +1
    Quote: Salute
    all of these aircraft today, of the new only Su-57
    What is the advantage of over-maneuverability?

    Quote: Evgeniy667b
    Already got this trembling about advertising attacks "Rosoboronexport" and "Rostec". Someone froze there, not having eaten a hamburger, something else. It is neither hot nor cold for the Russian armed forces from such exhibitions, since the equipment arrives in combat units in small quantities, much more sold. If Russia is really on the verge of major military events, then this is a crime, a demonstration (advertising) and the sale of weapons. !!!

    And whose life to stop because of supposedly events that are not? So dig the hopper.
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