All passengers of An-148, crashed in the suburbs, died

All those on board the An-148 aircraft crashing in the Moscow Region, including 65 passengers and 6 crew members, died, reports RIA News message of the press service of the Moscow Interregional Transport Prosecutor's Office.

On board the aircraft were 65 passengers and six crew members, all died, told the agency in the supervisory authority.

Earlier, Rosavitsiya reported that communication with the crew of the An-148 “Saratov Airlines” flight 703 Moscow-Orsk disappeared a few minutes after taking off from Domodedovo. The Emergency Situations Ministry confirmed that the plane crashed in the Ramensky district of the Moscow region near the settlement of Stepanovskoye.

The crash site is cordoned off by the Rosgvardia and employees of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate in Moscow Region

The solution of issues at the level of law enforcement agencies and municipalities is established. Search work is underway. Found one flight recorder,

told the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations in the Moscow region Sergey Poletykin.

Organized work on the work at night. Additional lighting towers are being installed. There are no problematic issues

added on.

The Investigative Committee opened a criminal case under the article on “violation of the rules of operation of air transport, which resulted in the death of two or more persons.”

Earlier in the TFR stated that the investigation will work out all possible versions of the incident. Emergency services, investigators and criminologists continue to work on the spot.

Comments

[Herculesic]

First of all, you again list this rating! Secondly, is it impossible to combine all three parts into one? And then you already got a thriller!

[The_lancet]

A terrible catastrophe ... Condolences ...
But why on this site before that there was no accurate information?
Information about a helicopter, not a passenger but a cargo plane, etc.
Poor visibility conditions - hard to search? Or are there more reasons?
Probably after the fall there were survivors, but did not last long because of the frost ...

[210ox]

This all got in first-hand, the koi did not know a damn thing. They saw the mail in the crashed fuselage and it started.

Quote: The_Lancet

A terrible catastrophe ... Condolences ...
But why on this site before that there was no accurate information?
It was written about a helicopter, not a passenger but a cargo plane, etc.
Poor visibility conditions - hard to search? Or are there more reasons?

[The_lancet]

If someone survived the fall just to die from the cold
Sad ...

[iliitchitch]

Quote: The_Lancet

If someone survived the fall just to die from the cold
Sad ...

I live here nearby, stop talking about the cold, it’s not cold now in the suburbs.

[Sofa expert]

Ride the railroads .. I’m sorry for my relatives ... for comparison, how many accidents in the air and on the train, and this comparison is not in favor of aviation ...

[Andrey K]

... Stewardess Nastya Slavinskaya, the last time was online at 14:21 at the time of take-off ...

Sunny and cheerful ...

[figwam]

The_lancet

All died when the plane crashed, frost -1C.

[Firework]

In the book of Ecclesiastes, I read these words: “And I turned and saw under the sun that the successful run is not quick, the victory is not brave, the bread is not wise, and wealth is not rational, but time and chance for all of them” no one is insured

[Ascetic]

Quote: The_Lancet

Probably after the fall there were survivors, but did not last long because of the frost ...

Judging by the wreckage, the explosion was in the air, there was no chance ... But there was no frost, a slight minus, there was no wind, there was a little snow, overcast .. if there were survivors they didn’t have time to freeze. The search terms are more or less good.

[loki565]

Maybe a control failure, like this already happened ...

[210ox]

Just do not pay attention. Please. Today is a day off and the right person may not be in place. Although, of course, there are problems with the site. And photos can be fake, and obvious errors in the articles are not corrected.

Quote: Herkulesich

First of all, you again list this rating! Secondly, is it impossible to combine all three parts into one? And then you already got a thriller!

[vlad66]

Sorry no one survived. Familiar and Close fasten yourselves. We condole you.
Mourn

[esso]

Sorry for the passengers, suspend flights of all An-148, there are incidents
On June 4 of 2010 of the year with the An-148 (RA-61701) of Rossiya Airlines operating an FV 132 flight from Moscow to St. Petersburg, a serious incident occurred related to the abnormal operation of the aircraft control system [56]. A short circuit in the EMF circuit caused a failure of one of the control channels, which led to a dive of the aircraft with an angle of 26 ° and a right roll of 56 °. Thanks to the actions of the pilots and the transfer of control into helm mode, the aircraft regained control and landed safely at Pulkovo Airport [57]
On February 26 of 2012 of the year with the An-148 (RA-61701) of Rossiya Airlines flying from Berlin Schönefeld to St. Petersburg, a serious incident occurred related to the separation of the wheel from the landing gear during the separation of the aircraft from the runway [58].
10 of September 2017 of the year An-148 aircraft flight 6В-5837 Saratov Airlines on the route Kirov-Simferopol made an emergency landing. In 4: 15, 10 minutes after departure from Pobedilovo (Kirov), the right engine failed in the plane due to a drop in oil pressure. In 6: 15 the aircraft made an emergency landing at the airport of the city of Saratov. It is known that there were 72 passengers and four crew members on board the aircraft.
1 October 2017 year, while taking off the flight of the airline "Angara" Talakan-Irkutsk, the right engine caught fire. The aircraft made an emergency landing at the port of departure.
05.03.2011/6/6 Russia Belgorod region 110/59 Crashed during a training flight before being handed over to the customer. When practicing an emergency descent, the crew exceeded the maximum speed by XNUMX km/h due to their untimely and insufficient actions, which led to the development of the flutter phenomenon[XNUMX].
11.02.2018/61704/71 RA-71 Russia Moscow region, near the village of Stepanovskoye 148/65 An-XNUMX flying from Moscow to Orsk crashed in the Moscow region. There were XNUMX passengers and six crew members on board.

[esso]

Issued 44 aircraft-2 lost, 4 accidents. A lot for this number.

[yehat]

judging by established reasons, all the consequence of operating conditions
I do not see a single construction related to any fatal flaws.
ne-2s were also broken at the front by dozens, because the electricians were disgusting to them.

[vlad66]

Quote: Esso

Sorry for the passengers, suspend flights of all An-148, there are incidents

In general, the Colleague after accidents with airplanes or ships, the activities of all aircraft or ships of this type of the ship that crashed, are suspended until the cause or order of the responsible person is established.

[shuravi]

Quote: Esso

Sorry for the passengers, suspend flights of all An-148, there are incidents
On June 4 of 2010 of the year with the An-148 (RA-61701) of Rossiya Airlines operating an FV 132 flight from Moscow to St. Petersburg, a serious incident occurred related to the abnormal operation of the aircraft control system [56]. A short circuit in the EMF circuit caused a failure of one of the control channels, which led to a dive of the aircraft with an angle of 26 ° and a right roll of 56 °. Thanks to the actions of the pilots and the transfer of control into helm mode, the aircraft regained control and landed safely at Pulkovo Airport [57]
On February 26 of 2012 of the year with the An-148 (RA-61701) of Rossiya Airlines flying from Berlin Schönefeld to St. Petersburg, a serious incident occurred related to the separation of the wheel from the landing gear during the separation of the aircraft from the runway [58].
10 of September 2017 of the year An-148 aircraft flight 6В-5837 Saratov Airlines on the route Kirov-Simferopol made an emergency landing. In 4: 15, 10 minutes after departure from Pobedilovo (Kirov), the right engine failed in the plane due to a drop in oil pressure. In 6: 15 the aircraft made an emergency landing at the airport of the city of Saratov. It is known that there were 72 passengers and four crew members on board the aircraft.
1 October 2017 year, while taking off the flight of the airline "Angara" Talakan-Irkutsk, the right engine caught fire. The aircraft made an emergency landing at the port of departure.
05.03.2011/6/6 Russia Belgorod region 110/59 Crashed during a training flight before being handed over to the customer. When practicing an emergency descent, the crew exceeded the maximum speed by XNUMX km/h due to their untimely and insufficient actions, which led to the development of the flutter phenomenon[XNUMX].
11.02.2018/61704/71 RA-71 Russia Moscow region, near the village of Stepanovskoye 148/65 An-XNUMX flying from Moscow to Orsk crashed in the Moscow region. There were XNUMX passengers and six crew members on board.

Have you counted the failures in Boeing?

[yehat]

Boeing has a simple plus - it can plan without engines, if not overloaded

[esso]

Boeings have short-range airplanes and are similar in configuration to the Antonovs, no, respectively, we need not look beyond the hill, orient ourselves, but not look.

[esso]

Quote: vlad66

Quote: Esso

Sorry for the passengers, suspend flights of all An-148, there are incidents

In general, the Colleague after accidents with airplanes or ships, the activities of all aircraft or ships of this type of the ship that crashed, are suspended until the cause or order of the responsible person is established.

you are right in the military sphere only, but not in the civilian one, they only give a command there, check the ships more carefully before takeoff, imagine all the An-148s will be banned, companies will receive losses, so this practice in the military

[ul_vitalii]

Black boxes oh how hard it will be to look in the snow, but it is necessary. God forbid the terrorist attack.

[Herculesic]

According to rumors, at least one box has already been found!

[Logall]

Vitalievich, , where did the rumors come from?

[Herculesic]

Alexander in social networks there was such a record, such as from an eyewitness, now it has already been deleted!

[Logall]

Precisely, all infa goes on social networks ... There are a lot of speculations!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Logall

Precisely, all infa goes on social networks ... There are a lot of speculations!

At the crash site, the main epicenter of a plane glider collision with the ground was discovered. It is located on the slope of the ravine, at an angle. After the impact, the glider was destroyed and the fuselage fragments scattered over a considerable distance. The depth of the funnel at the epicenter of the collision is more than 2,5 meters. At the scene, both engines and fragments of aircraft mechanization were found.

An external inspection was carried out, which allows us to tentatively assume that the aircraft engine worked up to a collision with the ground. According to preliminary data, the speed of the aircraft at the time of the glider’s collision with the ground was 615-630 km per hour, which preliminary indicates that the pilot tried to level the plane that was at its peak to the last. According to the preliminary version, loss of aircraft control as a result of icing.

REN TV previously reported that the An-148 aircraft was not treated with anti-icing fluid. According to available information, the captain of the aircraft refused it.

On board were 71 people, including six crew members. According to recent reports, no one survived as a result of the disaster.

[IL-18]

One box found. Russia 24.
Woe Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.
I beg you, do not put the pluses.

[groks]

the captain refused it

This does not happen. No one will ask him. Although ... capitalism.

[Makarov]

How did it refuse? Who is asking him? And how can it be established that the engine worked up to a collision with the ground?

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

According to the preliminary version, the loss of aircraft control as a result of icing.

4 minutes after take-off, icing. 630km \ h? Not a captain, but a commander. CAM refused. The excuses flew away from the comrades irresponsible, in short. Let's wait for now, but I want to say a lot.

[shuravi]

Quote: Nikolai Grek

REN TV previously reported that the An-148 aircraft was not treated with anti-icing fluid. According to available information, the captain of the aircraft refused it.

This is crap. Processing is only necessary so that the aircraft does not freeze in the parking lot.
And if this happened, then they are fighting on takeoff. In flight, the regular PIC completely copes with icing.
In addition, icing begins at temperatures from 0 * to -10 *. And if we look at the temperature over the past day and adjusted for height, then this version disappears.

[NIKNN]

Quote: shuravi

This is crap. Processing is only necessary so that the aircraft does not freeze in the parking lot.
And if this happened, then they are fighting on takeoff. In flight, the regular PIC completely copes with icing.
In addition, icing begins at temperatures from 0 * to -10 *. And if we look at the temperature over the past day and adjusted for height, then this version disappears.

Well, of everything available on the network, the following is of interest:

Already established: the plane collapsed, killing 71 people. There is evidence that before the crash, the aircraft made sharp maneuvers from one height to another: 1700 meters, then 1900, then again 1700 meters ... And this is at the stage when the An-148 was only to steadily gain altitude. What is this talking about? Something happened so over-emergency that the commander, who is obliged to report all the failures "to the ground", did not have a split second to transfer his hand from the helm to the button of the communication transmitter.

http://www.zagolovki.ru/daytheme/avia/12Feb2018
I saw somewhere else the flight schedule on the "radar" (this hour I can’t find something) There the speed was not childish walking ...
Perhaps all the same icing and failure of aneroid-membrane devices and sensors (I do not know how everything is organized there). The reason may lie as a consequence of not processing (as a special case). In general, it surprises me to give a decision to process the FAC ... Making a decision at a risk the price of which is the life of people for a premium, for saving Is this generally normal? You are being rewarded for taking such risks ... Yes, those who take such a risk in general should not be allowed in aviation !!! After all, aviation has been writing its laws for more than a century.
judging by the scatter of the debris, a variant of the explosion suggests itself. I'm afraid this is not explained by the explosion of the engine (well, the blades flew out and poked everything in the way), unless they had torn off the wing and then destroyed it by the air flow ... In general, we should wait for deciphers and analyzes for explosives ...
Well, since that is the first opinion.
Family condolences deep condolences.

[NIKNN]

Quote: NIKNN

I saw somewhere else the flight schedule on the "radar" (this hour I can’t find something) There the speed was not childish walking ...

Here I found .. https: //www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraf
t / ra-61704 # 106596d0

[shuravi]

Quote: NIKNN

I saw somewhere else the flight schedule on the "radar" (this hour I can’t find something) There the speed was not childish walking ...

The radar can only determine ground speed relative to the ground.
And she can walk because of diving and cabriolet.

Perhaps all the same icing and failure of aneroid-membrane devices and sensors (I do not know how everything is organized there). The reason may lie as a consequence of not processing (as a special case).

Sensors have personal heating and are duplicated. In addition, membrane-aneroid failure is far from critical. At least cadets of military schools practice this in flight on instruments under the blind.

In general, it surprises me to give a decision to process the FAC ... Making a decision at the risk the price of which is the life of people for a premium, for saving Is this generally normal? You are being rewarded for taking such risks ... Yes, those who take such a risk in general should not be allowed in aviation !!! After all, aviation has been writing its laws for more than a century.

If the plane is clean, why treatment? After all, this is so as not to freeze on the ground. In the air, a regular PIC works.

judging by the scatter of the debris, a variant of the explosion suggests itself. I'm afraid this is not explained by the explosion of the engine (well, the blades flew out and poked everything in the way), unless they had torn off the wing and then destroyed it by the air flow ... In general, we should wait for deciphers and analyzes for explosives ...
Well, since that is the first opinion.

Most likely a collision with something. Possibly UAV. But the crew was disabled. Otherwise, the crew would have reported problems.

[Herculesic]

Logall -Alexander interesting, but on Ren TV in a running strak it is indicated that a black box from an airplane was found! !!

[q75agent]

on the website of the same Ren tv, which is just not there: According to the Moscow Interregional Transport Prosecutor’s Office, An-148 flew out from Domodedovo at 14:24, stayed in the air for four minutes, and then disappeared from the radar. According to our correspondent, who a few minutes after the fall managed to get to the crash site almost very close to large debris - it is obvious that the plane began to collapse while still in the air. According to his testimonies, fragments are scattered along a significant path.

Note that those who are now engaged in the analysis and inspection of the wreckage at the crash site - carefully hide all the details. It got to the point that one of the employees of the Ministry of Emergencies attacked an Izvestia journalist; they need ratings for the journalists, where it’s true, where there’s no

[210ox]

Damn they climb like honey smeared. People have sorrow and this ... they earn money. Drive them out of the democrats!

Quote: q75agent

on the website of the same Ren tv, which is just not there: According to the Moscow Interregional Transport Prosecutor’s Office, An-148 flew out from Domodedovo at 14:24, stayed in the air for four minutes, and then disappeared from the radar. According to our correspondent, who a few minutes after the fall managed to get to the crash site almost very close to large debris - it is obvious that the plane began to collapse while still in the air. According to his testimonies, fragments are scattered along a significant path.

Note that those who are now engaged in the analysis and inspection of the wreckage at the crash site - carefully hide all the details. It got to the point that one of the employees of the Ministry of Emergencies attacked an Izvestia journalist; they need ratings for the journalists, where it’s true, where there’s no

[pvv113]

Hello, hello
Here is https://rg.ru/2018/02/11/reg-cfo/spasateli-nashli
-odin-iz-bortovyh-samopiscev-na-meste-krusheniia-
an-148.html

[Solomon Kane]

Judging by the preliminary claps that eyewitnesses heard before the crash, it is very similar to the surge of the engine with its subsequent destruction,
The reasons:
-the output of the aircraft for critical angles of attack;
- destruction and separation of the impeller blades (for example, due to old age);
- getting into the engine of a foreign object (bird, snow, a fragment of the concrete cover of the runway);
- getting into the air intake of powder gases when firing from guns or launching missiles on military aircraft;
- falling into the air intake of a longitudinal vortex.

[Makarov]

Well, old age is unlikely ... although .... given that 436-148 is a deep modernization of the 36th, and the blades, discs and shafts could easily be removed from the old man, it could be ...

[pvv113]

Konstantin, good evening!
At an outdoor temperature of plus or minus five, icing of the fuselage and VNA blades is possible, with subsequent disruption of ice and getting into the air intake.
Although cotton can be regarded as an explosion. Those. the possibility of a terrorist attack

[pvv113]

By the way, even experts do not exclude extraneous interference

“For today's occasion: one thing is certain: something very incredible happened. It will take a VERY long time to understand what was the matter. Either they will find traces of explosives on the wreckage. I looked at the available actual flight data, listened to conversations with controllers. Everything is very calm and routine, take-off, climb to a height of 6000 ft set by the dispatcher, smooth flight in a given direction - that is, it’s obvious that the autopilot is working and everything is fine. The dispatchers give permission to continue climbing up to 12000 ft, after which the plane simply disappears from the radar. more or less realistic scenarios - everything would have to be different, "writes pilot and psychologist Alexei Gervash.

Read more at http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22892376
.html

[Solomon Kane]

Volodya,
It is possible that the board could collide with one of the "toys" launched by comfortable summer residents in that area, given the "ceiling" of some quadrocopters up to 5000-5500 m, this could take place ....

Quadcopter DJI Inspire 2 X5S:
Weight: 3290 g (without suspension and camera)
Diagonal Size: 605mm
Maximum take-off weight: 4000g
Maximum flight height: 2500m, 5000m (When installing special blades)
Maximum acceleration: Vertical 4m / s, horizontal 4-9m / s (configurable in the application)
Maximum speed: 108km / h
GPS accuracy (with visual sensors turned on): Vertical 0.1m, horizontal 1.5m

[pvv113]

I agree, and this option is not excluded

[yehat]

It seems to me that the most likely version is a crow in the air intake.
this explains the sharp dive (-1 slider to climb at minimum speed).

[KVU-NSVD]

The same thoughts ... It hurts somehow incomprehensibly abruptly (I can’t find the right word) fell .. Close - fasten ....

[ul_vitalii]

At RBC confirmed.

[KVU-NSVD]

At RBC confirmed

That same resource is a "confirmer" For the sake of sensation, he will confirm anything, but if an error occurs, then the little one will give a refutation ....

[INTER]

Is the fall of our plane connected with the fall of the Israeli military?
What do you think?
Plus, the State Duma wants to coordinate with them?

[Galaxy]

Before you write, you first think, and then write!

[210ox]

Well, let's not engage in conspiracy theories. By the way, similar "news" about the Mossad attack on a military unit in the Tambov Region was here for a while .... The paper will endure everything. Including nonsense.

Quote: INTER

Is the fall of our plane connected with the fall of the Israeli military?
What do you think?
Plus, the State Duma wants to coordinate with them?

[Herculesic]

Actually, although it is clear that hardly anyone survived, to the deepest regret, the subconscious mind doesn’t care about the idea that at least one person, even with serious injuries, has survived, I often have this idea the time of such a catastrophe appears! Sincerely sorry that people died! I hope that all bodies will be identified and put to the ground! Peace be upon them!

[SOF]

... the kingdom of heaven ...

[Imh]

I sympathize with the families of the victims.

[Danny_storm]

This disaster is like a terrorist attack.

[ul_vitalii]

Debris, bodies, registrars, only they will clarify something, operational work is underway. A state commission has been created.

[Andrey K]

Kingdom of heaven to the lost ...
Relatives, friends, condolences ...
Brace yourself ...

[Anyone]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Black boxes oh how hard it will be to look in the snow, but it is necessary. God forbid the terrorist attack.

Come on ... They’ll find everything. All the wreckage will be collected for the MAK.

[Russia]

And no one doubts, but you are "okay."

[Herculesic]

Honestly, I want to be told only the truth, so that the late crew are not blamed retroactively! No need to lie, we have the right to know the truth, for we can also end up on an airplane, which will then replenish these terrible statistics, God forbid!

[Anyone]

There is a generally accepted unofficial practice, which can be described as follows: "blame the crew in any incomprehensible situation." If the crew died, then he is likely to be appointed guilty. In fairness, I must say that in most cases it is.

[Baloo]

Quote: Anyone

There is a generally accepted unofficial practice, which can be described as follows: "blame the crew in any incomprehensible situation." If the crew died, then he is likely to be convicted

inappropriate koment. this is not being discussed now.

[210ox]

I understand you and your indignation. But what about we should know and we may find ourselves in a similar tragedy. And what does KNOWLEDGE help us far from these areas? Are there services, specialists .. They must know and do everything to prevent this from happening .What will we do with this knowledge then? Let's go destroy the MAK, or refuse to fly? And about the fact that we can be THERE .. So it's all in the hands of the Lord ..

Quote: Herkulesich

Honestly, I want to be told only the truth, so that the late crew are not blamed retroactively! No need to lie, we have the right to know the truth, for we can also end up on an airplane, which will then replenish these terrible statistics, God forbid!

[Anyone]

Quote: Balu

Quote: Anyone

There is a generally accepted unofficial practice, which can be described as follows: "blame the crew in any incomprehensible situation." If the crew died, then he is likely to be convicted

inappropriate koment. this is not being discussed now.

What exactly is "inappropriate"? I say, since 16 years was this same "crew member". And my friends were "appointed" guilty.

[NN52]

Anyone

I don’t know where you have been in the 16 carriage for years, and which friends of yours you have been appointed guilty of ....
But it’s not for you to exactly appoint the crew guilty ...

Like a crewman. I tell the crew ////

[Proton]

Because of the engine most likely all the trouble there was infa that this company was fined already, for not proper maintenance of engines

[yehat]

if the engines simply junk, the pilots would manage to change the trajectory to a gentle glide path and the plane to the belly or field, but would sit down.
and then a sharp change in trajectory - the thrust fell almost immediately.

[Herculesic]

Among the dead, three children - three angels became more in heaven! It’s scary, very scary when nature plucks these flowers of life, who haven’t seen anything else in this life! Let the creator accept their honest and unsullied souls!

[vlad66]

Quote: Herkulesich

Among the dead, three children - three angels became more in heaven!

Lord, this is the most pity for the children. Lord, accept the innocent souls of angels.

[Suhow]

bad news ..... really sorry for the people.

[Declarant]

There is no official version of the crash yet. The preliminary reason was called the Mash telegram channel - this is a failure and the subsequent explosion of one of the engines. “First, something exploded under the wing, and it caught fire. After that, there was another flash, and the plane fell sharply down. Everyone saw the flash. Everything was so fast, ”eyewitnesses to the crash reported.

[Anyone]

Quote: NN52

Anyone

I don’t know where you have been in the 16 carriage for years, and which friends of yours you have been appointed guilty of ....
But it’s not for you to exactly appoint the crew guilty ...

Like a crewman. I tell the crew ////

Where did you see that I "appointed" the crew guilty? Just the opposite. Read carefully, colleague.

[shuravi]

Quote: Anyone

Quote: NN52

Anyone

I don’t know where you have been in the 16 carriage for years, and which friends of yours you have been appointed guilty of ....
But it’s not for you to exactly appoint the crew guilty ...

Like a crewman. I tell the crew ////

Where did you see that I "appointed" the crew guilty? Just the opposite. Read carefully, colleague.

Something like that.

... Instantly, the consequences of the processes
Words of experts, a series of versions,
But if someone’s interests are hurt,
That will never know the whole truth.

Who cares about truth and law?
Like remnants, written off in circulation,
It’s a long time already familiar fun
Blame the dead crew.

Why should everyone know about crashes and failures?
The news sounds like nonsense on duty,
And the crew ... so dead, the infection,
And therefore they do not know shame ...

[Jeremiah]

An accurate and unbiased investigation is necessary in order to prevent this from happening in the future .. Of course, you will not return people, sincere condolences to the relatives ... but this will save the lives of others ... It's terrible

[Mikado]

rest my soul, Lord ... Condolences to the family ...

[PalBor]

Strange, Ukrainians mock and giggle over Russians in connection with the crash of an airplane. Koshmar. What happened to the people?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: PalBor

Strange, Ukrainians mock and giggle

In this, alas, for a long time there is nothing strange.

Quote: PalBor

. What happened to the people?

Again, alas, but they ceased to be human.

[Mikado]

Again, alas, but they ceased to be human.

it seems like that. But not all, far from all!
Yes, and ... Alexander, I will never forget an example of condolences - one of the most powerful words about our St. Petersburg terrorist attack on the metro was written by one-forum member Aron Zaavi from Israel. That's why I will always be grateful to him. That is ... one must be people at such moments, regardless of nationality, place of residence and the difference in state policy. We are together! We, people...

[Northern warrior]

What do you want from the rabble of Polish slaves? Do you still believe in the friendship of nations? I stopped believing in her even at school age, so I won’t be surprised at anything. Euro-whores must pay for their actions with poverty, hunger, deaths in the atom, but even this will not be enough for retribution ...

[shuravi]

Quote: Northern warrior

What do you want from the rabble of Polish slaves? Do you still believe in the friendship of nations? I stopped believing in her even at school age, so I won’t be surprised at anything. Euro-whores must pay for their actions with poverty, hunger, deaths in the atom, but even this will not be enough for retribution ...

Citizens of Ukraine are different, like Russia. So what are you likened to worse?

[Northern warrior]

On the territory of 404, many Russians live, so this does not apply to them. The Russian, who called himself an outskirts, ceases to be Russian and becomes a mankurt. Expect condolences from such ushlepokov or at least silence is clearly not worth it.

[shuravi]

Quote: Northern warrior

On the territory of 404, many Russians live, so this does not apply to them. The Russian, who called himself an outskirts, ceases to be Russian and becomes a mankurt. Expect condolences from such ushlepokov or at least silence is clearly not worth it.

Clear. You are the same maydanuty, only with the opposite sign. What essence does not change.

[Northern warrior]

Don’t poke me. Because of people like you hovering in the clouds, Russia has received a multimillion-dollar crowd of galloping gopotas on the southern border.

[shuravi]

Quote: Northern warrior

Don’t poke me. Because of people like you hovering in the clouds, Russia has received a multimillion-dollar crowd of galloping gopotas on the southern border.

Well, before you, you are not mature enough. And Russia got a multimillion-dollar crowd of galloping gopot thanks to your idols to the liberals who betrayed Afghanistan in the nineties. History needs to be known, not taught by liberal manuals.

[tuts]

Rest in peace

[SCHNIFER]

Kingdom of heaven

[Falcond]

Interesting statistics!

The likelihood that a passenger boarding a plane will die in a plane crash is approximately 1/8. If a passenger lands every day on a random flight, it will take him 000 years to die.

[Falcond]

Rest in peace...

A terrible death at such an altitude ...

[Northern warrior]

I went to censor and realized that GDP is the most humane ruler in the history of Russia. I would have turned this adder near by into a nuclear testing ground, and I would have forced the Sumerians who survived by chance to relocate to the Efrat region. Well this is what you need to have patience in order not to succumb to the temptation to bring this evil to the root! I think that very many would gladly participate in this interesting and extremely necessary event for the Homeland.
For those who are still in the clouds ...

[yehat]

why measure the nation by halfwits? Usually, society strictly controls the behavior of such people, but in Ukraine, society does not control anything but the use of movs.
or do you think there are fewer such people in England or Germany?

[mydanik]

Tradition, once a year airplane

[Okolotochny]

Knock yourself a little, better on the asphalt.

[theadenter]

Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.

[dmmyak40]

Quote: Makarov

How did it refuse? Who is asking him? And how can it be established that the engine worked up to a collision with the ground?

Please refrain from stupid and unprofessional comments. Especially for you: the decision to treat with anti-icing fluid is made ONLY by the aircraft commander after inspecting the surface of the wings, engines, stabilizer, etc.

[Cook]

In fairness: at present, the decision to conduct, or to refuse anti-icing treatment, is taken on the basis of consensus between the aircraft commander and the technical services specialist, preparing the aircraft for flight and its release. If at least one of them states that processing is necessary, the aircraft must certainly be processed.

[Makarov]

Especially for you: After the disaster in Tyumen, the commander is politely sent to the ass with his opinion if the engineer letting the plane just think that processing is required. And yes, please refrain from unprofessional comments.

[armourer]

My condolences

[antiamerican]

enemy aircraft

[Romulus]

Quote: antiamerikan

enemy aircraft

An-148 is a joint Russian-Ukrainian project, aircraft were manufactured at the Voronezh aircraft factory. Since the beginning of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, their production in Russia has been curtailed.

[shuravi]

Quote: antiamerikan

enemy aircraft

Ban bobiks and watermelons?

[Petr1968]

Quote: shuravi

Ban bobiks and watermelons?

Definitely! And foreign cars. Do you know how many people die in them? Thousands!

[antiamerican]

and meanwhile on the east bank ...

[alexxxxz]

... The helicopter caught fire during a hard landing in the Tomsk region.
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/599566
Everybody is alive. And thank God!

[Mwg]

The kingdom of heaven is lost.
Sincere condolences to the families of the victims.

[alexxxxz]

http://www.interfax.ru/russia/599572
The plane crashed from a blow to the ground. At a speed of 650 km / h. or so. Which led to a significant scatter of debris. There is no chance of surviving under such circumstances.
Earth rest in peace! I feel sorry for the children. Condolences to the near and dear ones. Brace yourself!
Both black boxes were found at the An-148 crash site in the Moscow Region, Interfax was told in the operational headquarters at the emergency site - http://www.interfax.ru/russia/599583
We are waiting for the conclusions of the commission.

[nick.guda]

my condolences to the relatives and friends of the victims .... I grieve

[dmmyak40]

Quote: Makarov

Especially for you: After the disaster in Tyumen, the commander is politely sent to the ass with his opinion if the engineer letting the plane just think that processing is required. And yes, please refrain from unprofessional comments.

Reduce sarcasm in tone, you are my ironic. If something has changed since I was decommissioned from flying, it’s cultural, as my mother taught in childhood, tell me.
Are you my professional? Tell me, please, is your flying time in hours? My flight time is 18 hours of accident-free flight, pilot engineer, pilot instructor, Leningrad Academy of Civil Aviation with honors. He commissioned commanders from Kazan to Ordzhonikidze.