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In the suburbs crashed An-148 with passengers on board

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In the Moscow region, the An-148 passenger plane crashed, the connection with it was cut off two minutes after departure from Domodedovo Airport, reports RIA News.


In the suburbs crashed An-148 with passengers on board


In 14.21 Moscow time, an An-148 703 flight from Saratov Airlines Moscow-Orsk flew from Domodedovo Airport. According to preliminary data, onboard the 65 passengers and 6 crew members. A few minutes after takeoff, the radio link was lost with the crew of the aircraft, the mark of the aircraft disappeared from the locators. According to preliminary data, the connection disappeared in the Ramensky district of the Moscow region,
the report says Rosaviatsii.

According to a source in the emergency services, the aircraft was found in Ramenskoye area.

The plane fell near the settlement Stepanovskoe in Ramenskoye district. On board, the 65 is a man, including a child, and six crew members. Two Mi-8s with rescuers flew out of Chkalovsky and Myachkovo with search and rescue missions,
said the agency interlocutor.

The head of the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation Maxim Sokolov also flew to the place of the alleged crash.

According to a ministry spokesman, Sokolov held talks with Emergencies Minister Puchkov, Moscow Region Governor Neradko, "and then flew out to the search site (the missing plane)."

Later it became known that seven medical teams left for the crash site.

"At the crash site of the An-148 aircraft in the Ramenskoye district of the Moscow region, seven brigades of the Disaster Medicine Center left," said the press service of the Ministry of Health of the Moscow Region.

According to eyewitnesses, the fallen plane was destroyed, the wreckage was scattered around the village of Stepanovskoye.

According to the latest data, President Vladimir Putin expressed his condolences to the families and friends of those killed in the plane crash in the suburbs.
Photos used:
RIA Novosti / Vitaliy Ankov
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 11 February 2018 16: 14
    +19
    Again the dead .. Condolences to relatives and friends ... It’s not okay something in the "Danish kingdom" ..
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 11 February 2018 16: 19
      +18
      We raided Aeroflot, and now you will not find the guilty. am
      1. 210ox
        210ox 11 February 2018 16: 24
        +4
        And there were no disasters at Aeroflot? Although I agree with you, there was a huge airline, everything was settled ..
        Quote: siberalt
        We raided Aeroflot, and now you will not find the guilty. am
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 11 February 2018 16: 27
          +7
          Now show on "Russia 24".
          Ramensky district of Moscow region, the plane in the flaps in the fields.
          Organized search activities.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 11 February 2018 16: 37
            +3
            The suburbs are densely built up .. Okay, not yet on a housing estate ..
            Quote: Andrey K
            Now show on "Russia 24".
            Ramensky district of Moscow region, the plane in the flaps in the fields.
            Organized search activities.
        2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 11 February 2018 18: 30
          0
          The crashed board for 4 months before the disaster.
      2. vlad66
        vlad66 11 February 2018 16: 45
        +15
        Condolences to the near and dear ones!
        We raided Aeroflot, and now you will not find the guilty.

        Colleagues will be PEOPLE in the first place, they will figure out who is to blame. At least express my condolences and the editors would have at least removed the rating, there are no minuses on the tragedy.
      3. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 11 February 2018 16: 48
        +6
        "Saratov Airlines"
        everything is there request
      4. sgazeev
        sgazeev 11 February 2018 17: 52
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        We raided Aeroflot, and now you will not find the guilty. am

        Weather in the morning is rubbish, fine, wet snow. Although weather forecasters say that the weather is not a hindrance. In the region the temperature is always lower. And at an altitude of 1000 meters with a hook, it loses altitude dramatically. Presumably. I recall the death of Artyom Borovik.
      5. Svetlana
        Svetlana 11 February 2018 18: 26
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        We raided Aeroflot, and now you will not find the guilty. am

        No, you’ll find it. We now usually have the guilty party - the deceased pilot. Despite the fact that, in most cases, takes the plane away from residential areas. After all, this is the simplest thing - to blame the dead. No need to look for a reason in low-quality foreign components purchased at a low price, in the incompetence of any specialists or heads of various departments responsible for flight safety, etc. And the dead will no longer be able to say something in his defense.
        And yet - in the 90 and the beginning of the 2000, it was customary in all sorts of terrible catastrophes and incidents to find a “Chechen trace”, even when crazy maniacs killed their victims. Now it is customary to see in all incidents a “Ukrainian trace”.
      6. 210ox
        210ox 11 February 2018 20: 16
        0
        Let's wait for the conclusions of the State Commission. Maybe there ground services yawned big ..
      7. Separ
        Separ 11 February 2018 20: 35
        +6
        When there was Aeroflot, there were regular checks of the technical condition of aircraft, all kinds of commissions, timely routine maintenance and preventive maintenance, but now it’s just loot and loot multiplied by loot again ...
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 11 February 2018 16: 20
      +16
      Condolences to relatives and friends.

      Emergency response line 8-800-775-17-17
      1. verner1967
        verner1967 11 February 2018 16: 22
        +5
        Quote: Sith Lord
        now you will not find the guilty

        report that helicopter fragments were found nearby ...
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 11 February 2018 16: 28
          +5
          Quote: verner1967
          fragments of a helicopter were found nearby ..

          Also in shock when I read. It turns out that there was a failure in the air traffic control system. But not only that, this is the area of ​​the first echelon of the Moscow air defense where the radar field is continuous. It turns out that they both missed a dangerous rapprochement.
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        2. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 11 February 2018 16: 32
          +10
          Condolences to relatives and friends. hi Rest in peace.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 11 February 2018 16: 50
            +11
            Quote: ul_vitalii
            Rest in peace.

            more correct to say - THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN hi
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 11 February 2018 17: 27
              +7
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon
              KINGDOM OF HEAVEN [/ b] hi

              Probably the main point. The Kingdom of heaven..
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 11 February 2018 17: 32
                +7
                Quote: Pete Mitchell
                Probably the main point.

                the meaning of God's scripture is the righteous in heaven
            2. Declarant
              Declarant 11 February 2018 19: 18
              +3
              Vitaly speaks correctly. Earth rest in peace before a funeral, during a funeral. The soul is on earth for another 40 days. After the fortieth flies away. Then the kingdom of heaven. Something like this.
        3. Andrey K
          Andrey K 11 February 2018 16: 53
          +8
          Quote: verner1967
          ... report that helicopter fragments were found nearby ...

          On the "box" refute the collision with a helicopter ...
        4. Piramidon
          Piramidon 11 February 2018 18: 13
          0
          Quote: verner1967
          report that helicopter fragments were found nearby ...

          But they refer to some muddy witness of these fragments. Like, some kind of "pioneer" found letters near the crash site and journalists came to the conclusion that the board collided with a mail helicopter.
        5. Separ
          Separ 11 February 2018 20: 37
          +2
          And what did the helicopter do at 1000 meters?
    3. Scoun
      Scoun 11 February 2018 16: 51
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      Again the dead ..

      How many people should die in order to bring order to aviation?
      In fact, Saratov Airlines is an African airline, which Stopudova would not receive a European certificate, a fleet of anans, yaks and embers, a garbage company. Kyrgyz car wash, and she uses the Bay-146.
      I apologize for the "emotions", a friend flew today with Aeroflot.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 11 February 2018 17: 18
        +6
        Quote: Scoun
        What would aviation clean up?

        when God put things in order in the sky - aviation has not taken off yet, and when on earth, it was already in the air, and to be honest - these are all the consequences of the collapse of the union - the old generation is already gone, but the young, sensible, no, it's all money earns am
      2. NKT
        NKT 11 February 2018 17: 21
        +3
        And what is bad about An or the same Yak? And the Boeings are falling and the Airbuses, both new and old.

        Aeroflot was also full of disasters, and as always, 90% of the human factor. Remember the year 93 where daddy put his son at the helm.
        1. Northern warrior
          Northern warrior 11 February 2018 21: 52
          0
          Have you looked at statistics on ans and yaks? This is just a piece of flying shit! Tu-154, which everyone loves to scold, is much more reliable.
          1. NKT
            NKT 11 February 2018 22: 22
            0
            I looked, well, and how many boards are not lost due to the human factor?
            Let's wait for the conclusions of the commission, why immediately blame the plane?
            Regardless of the conclusions, the plane still remains the safest mode of transport, unlike the car that you probably use.
          2. Sma11
            Sma11 12 February 2018 19: 51
            0
            Have you looked at statistics on ans and yaks? This is just a piece of flying shit! Tu-154, which everyone loves to scold, is much more reliable.
            . I dare to disagree with you. The aerodynamics of Soviet aircraft are such that they are well planned. If only the pilot was literate.
    4. Good cat
      Good cat 13 February 2018 16: 02
      0
      http://www.proza.ru/2018/02/12/586
  2. Muvka
    Muvka 11 February 2018 16: 14
    +6
    It is necessary to prohibit transportation to everyone except Aeroflot! Let them carry goods if they want.
    1. verner1967
      verner1967 11 February 2018 16: 16
      +2
      Quote: Muvka
      It is necessary to prohibit transportation to everyone except Aeroflot!

      Aeroflot is also not without accidents and disasters ....
      poor people ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 11 February 2018 16: 19
        +4
        Seriously? in the 2000s there were only 2 disasters with casualties - in 2000 and 2008. And then there is a daughter, but oh well.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 11 February 2018 16: 28
          +3
          Quote: Muvka
          Seriously? in 2000s there were only 2 disasters with casualties

          so the park has shrunk by how many times, and there are some companies that have no catastrophes at all.
          1. Muvka
            Muvka 11 February 2018 16: 41
            +3
            in 2001 - 5,832 million;
            in 2016 - 28,9 million
            This is the number of passengers carried. Do they carry them in their arms? If the fleet has decreased, and the number of passengers has increased multiple.
            1. verner1967
              verner1967 11 February 2018 16: 46
              +2
              Quote: Muvka
              This is the number of passengers carried.

              compared to what?
              1. Muvka
                Muvka 11 February 2018 16: 49
                +2
                2016 compared to 2001.
                1. verner1967
                  verner1967 11 February 2018 19: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: Muvka
                  2016 compared to 2001.

                  I'm not talking about years, but about other airlines
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 11 February 2018 16: 18
      +10
      Muvka
      ... It is necessary to ban the transportation of all but Aeroflot! Let them carry goods if they want ...

      Vladimir hi
      The point is not the operator company, but the observance of FAPs (federal aviation rules) !!!
      They are written in blood, as is everything related to security.
      Everything is described in FAPs - from runway maintenance to post-trip inspections of aircraft components and assemblies.
      If the company (any one) refers to this after the sleeves - wait for the trouble ...
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 11 February 2018 16: 24
        +3
        Therefore, I say, it is necessary to prohibit passenger traffic to everyone except Aeroflot. They at least comply.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 11 February 2018 16: 29
          +3
          Quote: Muvka
          They at least comply.

          yes ... in words ...
        2. Burbon
          Burbon 11 February 2018 17: 06
          +4
          Quote: Muvka
          Therefore, I say, it is necessary to prohibit passenger traffic to everyone except Aeroflot. They at least comply.

          fool you have already appointed the perpetrators ..... it's just a kapets! ... wait until the investigation is over .... maybe a bird ... maybe a drone .... a lot of things can be ... tell me how many accidents Saratov Airlines have ?! ! fool
          the kingdom of heaven to the fallen ..... condolences to loved ones
          1. Separ
            Separ 11 February 2018 20: 42
            +3
            Bird in winter - hardly 1000 meters. Most likely something with fuel. Winter, temperature changes, in kerosene, the formation of all kinds of condensates up to ice crystals ...
        3. 210ox
          210ox 11 February 2018 17: 52
          +1
          To do this, it is necessary to abolish private property and return to the previous social + political system. That would be absolutely correct.
          Quote: Muvka
          Therefore, I say, it is necessary to prohibit passenger traffic to everyone except Aeroflot. They at least comply.
          1. Astoria
            Astoria 11 February 2018 19: 05
            +2
            private property must be abolished
            start with yourself laughing
            1. 210ox
              210ox 11 February 2018 19: 56
              +1
              It has already been produced for a long time .. Partnership in our cell of society has been abolished. yes And let's stop srach on this topic. Mourning.
              Quote: Astoria
              private property must be abolished
              start with yourself laughing
              1. Astoria
                Astoria 11 February 2018 20: 38
                0
                Yes, mourning! control yourself and be more polite - do not invent bicycles. hi
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 11 February 2018 17: 04
        +4
        Quote: Andrey K
        The point is not the operator company, but the observance of FAPs (federal aviation rules) !!! They are written in blood, as is everything related to security.
        If the company (any one) refers to this after the sleeves - wait for the trouble ...

        Andrei, I remembered the Soviet film “Wingspan”. Like it or not, something has changed since then ...
        1. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 11 February 2018 17: 21
          +6
          Quote: sabakina
          something has changed since then ...

          not something but profit request
    3. 210ox
      210ox 11 February 2018 16: 21
      +5
      Yes, and there and there airplanes and people ... A piece of iron can always break down. And a person can screw up regardless of whose company he goes to. Another thing is how equipment is operated and repaired at this company ..
      Quote: Muvka
      It is necessary to prohibit transportation to everyone except Aeroflot! Let them carry goods if they want.
  3. Andrey K
    Andrey K 11 February 2018 16: 15
    +4
    Rest in peace...
    PS Guys, let's go without the pluses, not the topic ...
    There is hope, the plane has not yet been found ...
    Maybe the survivors have ...
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 11 February 2018 16: 35
      +2
      What are the pluses, the wreckage of the plane lie on the ground.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 11 February 2018 16: 47
        +4
        Now I'm watching the news.
        Tin.
        I feel sorry for people.
  4. Falcond
    Falcond 11 February 2018 16: 16
    +4
    Let’s not at least under this news to harass anyone ... people died ...
    Condolences to the relatives of the victims, rest in peace for whom this flight was the last ....
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 11 February 2018 16: 17
    +6
    Probably no one has survived ... Earth rest in peace ... Let's wait for details about the circumstances. Somehow suspiciously abruptly disappeared from the radar and fell ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 11 February 2018 17: 10
      +5
      Victor, 2 minutes after take-off .... At what height could he be and why didn’t anyone survive? The stewardess fell from 10 meters and survived ...
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 11 February 2018 17: 18
        +4
        We will hope...
      2. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 11 February 2018 17: 23
        +4
        https://ria.ru/incidents/20180211/1514400236.html
        Search and rescue operations in the disaster area will be conducted around the clock, the head of the Ministry of Emergencies said.
      3. Makarov
        Makarov 11 February 2018 17: 35
        +1
        and 2 km did not have time to score ...
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 11 February 2018 16: 19
    +5
    First, fifth, and hundredths - remove PLEASE rating fool am !!!!!!!!
  7. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 11 February 2018 16: 21
    +12
    My deepest condolences to all citizens of the Russian Federation, and especially to the families of the crew and passengers. Health and courage to survive this tragedy.
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  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 11 February 2018 16: 21
    +4
    Sincere and deepest condolences to the relatives, relatives, friends and colleagues of the victims! Accept the Lord of their Souls!
  10. taiga2018
    taiga2018 11 February 2018 16: 21
    0
    I’m so sorry. I hope so.
  11. ivagulin
    ivagulin 11 February 2018 16: 23
    +3
    now dolbyodya ... l iPhone still prohibits the use of domestic aircraft
    1. 210ox
      210ox 11 February 2018 21: 56
      0
      According to the rules, AN148 flights will be banned until clarification. And about DAM .. it will become with him .. By the way, there are very few domestic ones. Our hoopoes were killed by the aircraft industry ..
      Quote: ivagulin
      now dolbyodya ... l iPhone still prohibits the use of domestic aircraft
  12. Falcond
    Falcond 11 February 2018 16: 24
    0
    They say the turntable was found ... in the same place ... a collision was possible
  13. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 11 February 2018 16: 27
    +3
    An-148 ... whose assembly ???
    As far as I remember, recently went into a series? The board is new ...
    We will wait for the results of the examination ...
    But everything that is connected with B / U, I personally, is suspicious ... negative
    Condolences to the relatives of the victims ...
    Something too often lately ...
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 11 February 2018 16: 46
      0
      Voronezh assembly. Ours bought them from the airline Russia.
      It's bitter how ... It hurts.
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 11 February 2018 16: 47
      +1
      Again another bummer ...
      Human factor...
      Well, that's all, tired !!!
    3. Separ
      Separ 11 February 2018 20: 48
      +2
      Perhaps the assembly is Voronezh-Ukraine, but if seriously, there was no one to work at the aircraft plant in those years (I don’t know now) —experienced workers retired, you won’t lure young people — they say you are reluctant to go to work every day. A friend of mine worked there for many years, retired - so from retirement they asked me to return at a good salary ...
  14. Малый
    Малый 11 February 2018 16: 28
    +1
    The kingdom of heaven .... so scattered ....
  15. sds87
    sds87 11 February 2018 16: 29
    +1
    Like thunder on my head. I am sorry and mourn. Relatives of the victims are now very hard.
  16. Vadim851
    Vadim851 11 February 2018 16: 32
    +3
    Earth rest in peace. Condolences to relatives ... Belarus is with you.
    This is terrible .. moreover, the plane is new.
  17. Simon
    Simon 11 February 2018 16: 33
    +1
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Probably no one has survived ... Earth rest in peace ... Let's wait for details about the circumstances. Somehow suspiciously abruptly disappeared from the radar and fell ...

    He flew a few minutes after takeoff, most likely no one was left alive.
  18. Anyone
    Anyone 11 February 2018 16: 36
    +6
    Quote: verner1967
    Quote: Muvka
    They at least comply.

    yes ... in words ...

    Not in words. He flew in AFL from 2006 to 2011. There were certain problems (and remained, I suppose), but the general situation in the airline company was an order of magnitude different from any sharazhavia. And in terms of compliance with the norms of working hours and rest of crews, and in terms of safety standards. Fly Aeroflot.
    1. Anyone
      Anyone 11 February 2018 16: 50
      0
      Z.Y. From 1996 to 2011
  19. Strips
    Strips 11 February 2018 16: 39
    +1
    Condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims.
  20. Anyone
    Anyone 11 February 2018 16: 41
    +1
    Quote: Tiras
    Condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims.

    Join.
  21. sgapich
    sgapich 11 February 2018 16: 43
    +2
    Quote: Muvka
    Seriously? in the 2000s there were only 2 disasters with casualties - in 2000 and 2008. And then there is a daughter, but oh well.

    2004 - 134 dead;
    2005 - 49 dead;
    2006 - 414 dead;
    2007 - 15 dead;
    2008 - 176 dead;
    2009 - 57 dead;
    2010 - 124 dead;
    2011 - 113 dead;
    2012 - 96 dead;
    2013 - 117 dead;
    2014 - 69 dead;
    2015 - 121 dead;
    2016 - 144 dead;
    2017 - 82 dead.

    Data taken from the official website of the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC). Listed civilian aircraft only (including private aircraft) Russian airlines.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 11 February 2018 16: 45
      +4
      Are you I spoke about Aeroflot. And you give the general figures.
    2. Sam_gosling
      Sam_gosling 11 February 2018 18: 09
      0
      Strange data. On one a321 metrojet in 15 years killed more than 200 people. Or is it not a plane crash?
  22. sabakina
    sabakina 11 February 2018 16: 45
    +2
    My condolences to family and friends. My opinion. Only a complete id from could paint an aircraft in that color. Tell the mystic nothing to do with it? ....
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 11 February 2018 17: 18
      +1
      Quote: sabakina
      My condolences to family and friends. My opinion. Only a complete id from could paint an aircraft in that color. Tell the mystic nothing to do with it? ....



      Mystery has nothing to do with it. But the thieving model of the economy, that is, capitalism, yes.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 February 2018 17: 38
        +2
        Vladimir, I do not agree. Korolev, as I recall, banned starts on Mondays.
        1. shuravi
          shuravi 11 February 2018 19: 02
          +1
          Quote: sabakina
          Vladimir, I do not agree. Korolev, as I recall, banned starts on Mondays.



          This is your own business. But so far there have been no catastrophes with mystical reasons.
  23. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 11 February 2018 16: 47
    +1
    In the fall, only two incidents were with this model. And in Voronezh from January 1, CANNED the production of AN-148. Coincidence?
    1. Good cat
      Good cat 11 February 2018 17: 06
      +1
      Somehow I was not interested in an148 is this a former military transport, judging by the fezulage? If so then reliability should be prohibitive.
      1. Sergeant71
        Sergeant71 11 February 2018 17: 25
        +1
        No. It was developed as a mid-range passenger with the main focus on our market. Today 30 boards are in operation in the Russian Federation.
  24. Good cat
    Good cat 11 February 2018 16: 47
    +1
    Judging by the radius of the scatter of the debris, the plane was blown up in the air at 2-3 km altitude?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 11 February 2018 17: 26
      +3
      Do you think the attack? 2-3 km there is a chance to survive ...
    2. Makarov
      Makarov 11 February 2018 17: 44
      +3
      Compare with the wreckage of a downed Boeing in Ukraine. It burned down, but this one didn’t ... there was no explosion, and judging by the radar, it lost altitude with the beacon on, moreover, at first there was a failure, then a small set and a drop. This does not happen in explosions. Finish the muddy water ...
      1. Good cat
        Good cat 11 February 2018 18: 34
        +1
        Finish crap flogging. The plane blew together with people to shreds still in the air.
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          1. Electric
            Electric 12 February 2018 08: 43
            0
            what do you know nerdy? - eyewitnesses from villages on social networks discuss the plane’s explosion in the middle of the plane’s hull, after which it was likely that it lost control, went up sharply and then down, and on a descent down a gentle path finally fell to pieces. That is, he flew to the ground in the form of a hail of fragments of an airplane and people.
            And let the wise guy explain why no one had time to report anything to the control room
            1. Makarov
              Makarov 12 February 2018 13: 19
              0


              Sounds like a hail of shards, right? It’s a pity I can’t express myself, since I would have protected you with epithets ...
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              2. Good cat
                Good cat 12 February 2018 20: 17
                0
                https://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2018/02/12/n_11
                161135.shtml
                About 148 fragments of bodies and more than 800 fragments of the aircraft were found at the crash site of the An-440 aircraft in the Moscow Region, RIA Novosti reports with reference to a representative of the operational headquarters at the scene of the emergency.
                According to the representative, 27 of 30 hectares of the territory where fragments and fragments of bodies are scattered are currently surveyed.
                Earlier it was reported that at the crash site of An-148, 715 fragments of bodies and 430 fragments were found.
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              4. Good cat
                Good cat 13 February 2018 16: 01
                0
                http://www.proza.ru/2018/02/12/586
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    3. Makarov
      Makarov 11 February 2018 17: 47
      +1


      Sounds like a blast in the air?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 February 2018 18: 15
        +2
        If you are me, then I'm not special. BUT! Sochi plane still can not figure it out. Or did you personally sit at the radar?
        1. Makarov
          Makarov 11 February 2018 19: 29
          0
          I don’t know about Sochi. In the 21st century there is no need to PERSONALLY sit behind the radar ... it’s time to understand this already
  25. Bronevick
    Bronevick 11 February 2018 16: 52
    +6
    Condolences to the families of the victims. Something I didn’t hear so that passenger planes would fall in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Canada, Germany, the USA, France, and what flow flies between Greenland between two continents. Why are we constantly falling? There are no forces whatsoever. Aviation technicians are some drunks or something, or are pilots such losers or something?
    1. Good cat
      Good cat 11 February 2018 16: 58
      +6
      What does the drunk have to do with it? Right now I watched a report on p24. There is no crater, there are no traces of ground burnout (after take-off the fuel tanks are full), fragments and debris were scattered throughout the district. Rather, there was a blast in the air. But as usual they keep silent
      1. Bronevick
        Bronevick 11 February 2018 17: 09
        +3
        If there are no signs of burning, then what kind of subversion are you talking about?
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 11 February 2018 17: 30
          +2
          Ruslan, I'm not a specialist, I'm a techie. If there was an explosion in the air, everything burned out, or almost everything was still in the air. A small fraction of the fuel that was on board dies on the ground.
          1. Bronevick
            Bronevick 11 February 2018 18: 09
            +1
            So he just took off. So quickly burned out?
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 11 February 2018 18: 18
              +3
              Ruslan, if the blow was in fuel ..... the car burns out in minutes ....
              1. Separ
                Separ 11 February 2018 20: 53
                +2
                Fighter on earth - in seconds ..
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 11 February 2018 18: 43
      +1
      Quote: Bronevick
      Something I didn’t hear so that passenger planes would fall in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Canada, Germany, the USA, France, and what flow flies between Greenland between two continents.

      are you pretending or what ???? fool fool in Germany in 2002, managed to arrange in the sky that which is unlikely in principle !!!
      1. Bronevick
        Bronevick 11 February 2018 18: 56
        +2
        Okay. The controller was there. After this incident was not, and before that it was not particularly audible. And we have stable several times a year, then airplanes, then helicopters. As reports from the war.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 11 February 2018 19: 19
          +1
          Quote: Bronevick
          Okay. The controller was there.

          Well, yes ... and it’s like a niche, a trifle that the dispatchers managed to bring down 2 planes in the air !!! but at the same time we must immediately yell about our drunks !!! fool fool fool


          apparently, you do not pretend !!!

          A Germanwings plane flying from Barcelona to Dusseldorf crashed in the mountains in southern France. According to the latest information, 154 people were on board, all of them died.

          Date: 20 August 2008 of the year
          Details: The accident of the McDonnell Douglas MD-82 aircraft of the Spanish airline Spanair at Madrid Barajas Airport. The airliner flew to the Canary Islands.
          Killed: 154

          The crash of the Boeing 737 near Amsterdam is an aircraft accident that occurred on February 25, 2009. Turkish Airlines Boeing 737-800 airliner operated a TK 1951 flight on the Istanbul-Amsterdam route, but when landing in Amsterdam it suddenly lost altitude and collapsed to the ground 1,5 kilometers from Schiphol Airport. Of the 135 people on board (128 passengers and 7 crew members), 9 were killed, 86 were injured of varying severity

          August 2006: Airliner crashed in Kentucky, crashed almost instantly after leaving the runway; 49 people died;

          February 2009: 50 casualties after a plane crashes into a residential building in the Buffalo area

          in July 2013. The Boeing 777 crashed while trying to land in San Francisco. The fuselage began to break off near the plane and the engine caught fire. As a result, out of 307 passengers, including the crew, three were killed and 181 people were injured.

          May 26, 2016 US Navy F-18 fighters collided over the Atlantic off the coast of North Carolina.

          May 19, 2016 An American B-52 bomber that crashed on Guam caught fire before falling to the ground. A message from the press service of the Pacific Command of the US Air Force. The plane crashed onto the runway of Andersen Base shortly after launch. The bomber was sent to Guam from North Dakota as part of a military mission to secure a US military presence in the Pacific.
          1. Bronevick
            Bronevick 11 February 2018 19: 26
            +2
            And now our statistics, at least for 10 years? I’m not trying to stab or insult anyone. Just understand the reasons for this.
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 11 February 2018 19: 31
              +1
              Quote: Bronevick
              And now our statistics, at least for 10 years ?.

              no uzhzhzhzh ... for starters, we are waiting for you to speak in their direction in style
              Quote: Bronevick
              There are no forces whatsoever. Aviation technicians are some drunks or something, or are pilots such losers or something?

              in general, some have already ceased to think before writing something !!!
              1. Bronevick
                Bronevick 11 February 2018 19: 34
                +2
                This is you tell the families of the dead. I'm interested in your point of view on the preliminary causes of this plane crash.
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 11 February 2018 20: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: Bronevick
                  This is you tell the families of the dead. I'm interested in your point of view on the preliminary causes of this plane crash.

                  You shouldn’t pretend to be .... you are not particularly interested in anything .. if you would only yell at the sound of the waves about the devastation and the ever drunk Russia !!!
    3. Separ
      Separ 11 February 2018 20: 51
      +2
      Many pilots are retrained navigators, and still attract pilots from all the former republics of the USSR
  26. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 11 February 2018 17: 01
    +2
    Condolences to the families of the victims
  27. Kurare
    Kurare 11 February 2018 17: 02
    +6
    Condolences to the near and dear ones. Land they rest in peace. Mourn
    Let's not guess who is to blame. NOW NOT TIME!
  28. faiver
    faiver 11 February 2018 17: 02
    +1
    land rest in peace, condolences to relatives and friends ..
  29. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 11 February 2018 17: 05
    +3
    Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.
  30. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 11 February 2018 17: 12
    0
    at our enterprise (not related to aviation), safety measures are constantly neglected once a year, incidents are stably. I am sure that this is true throughout the country. This is Russia.
  31. garnik
    garnik 11 February 2018 17: 35
    +3
    I am sorry for the near and dear ones. Earth in fluff. I would not like to die so ridiculously. Ohhhh.
  32. savage1976
    savage1976 11 February 2018 17: 37
    +2
    Condolences to relatives.
  33. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 11 February 2018 17: 57
    0
    There was infa about the explosion under the wing .. https: //news.rambler.ru/incidents/3911473
    1-chto-to-vzorvalos-pod-krylom-ochevidtsy-o-trage
    dii-s-an-148 /
  34. Streletskos
    Streletskos 11 February 2018 18: 00
    +16
    Here is the trouble
    It’s dangerous to fly too
  35. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 11 February 2018 18: 11
    0
    The search squad "Angel" did not find survivors after the crash of An-148‍
  36. Ivan Tarava
    Ivan Tarava 11 February 2018 18: 17
    +3
    Condolences to families. It is necessary to wait for the decryption of the black boxes, before making hasty conclusions.
    1. Good cat
      Good cat 11 February 2018 18: 31
      +2
      Do you think the truth will be told after the black boxes? Sochi plane, on YouTube there was a video from the registrar, as the plane takes off, goes into the clouds and flash. And what nonsense flogged on all channels? A submarine Kursk photo with a torpedo hole on the starboard side. And the recessed Krymsk that everyone has already forgotten. Etc .. And people always find out the truth. Only the truth and nothing but the truth ...
      1. Ivan Tarava
        Ivan Tarava 11 February 2018 19: 08
        +4
        About Kursk: this was made a technological hole already when the submarine was lying on the ground, since the hatches could not be opened, because the crew of the boat that was lying on the ground opened the taps of compressed process air, as the air supply in the boat was exhausted. I then served in tow and took part in raising the boat. Believe me, a torpedo in a collision with a boat leaves completely different traces. I can’t say anything about other cases.
  37. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 11 February 2018 18: 31
    +1
    would you know gentlemen what is happening on Svidomo sites on this ... these animals do not have anything at all, just one malice
  38. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 11 February 2018 19: 33
    +2
    Of course, I apologize, but judging by reports from the Rambler in Syria, hundreds of our compatriots were killed, and what? Why is there no information about this? Or are the lives of Russian soldiers worthless?
    1. Glock
      Glock 11 February 2018 21: 07
      +1

      US Secretary of Defense, four-star General James "Raging Dog" Mattis at an official Pentagon briefing, commented on the defeat of Russian troops by the Americans near the village of Hshmam in Syria on February 7, 2018:
      “It was self-defense. Obviously, we are not involved in the civil war in Syria ... The Russians at that time told us that their forces were not there ... The fact is that someone decided to attack us, and the Russians said that this was not about them .... You can’t ask Russia to prevent a conflict in the event that it does not control something, ”said James Mattis.

      On the topic - Condolences to the families of the victims.
      related video
      https://nv.ua/img/forall/u/454/10/VID_20180211_15
      0952_897.mp4
  39. shuravi
    shuravi 11 February 2018 20: 10
    +1
    The Moscow air zone is traditionally crowded. There is still not far Myachkovo.
  40. Antares
    Antares 11 February 2018 20: 24
    0
    Condolences to all, especially relatives and friends ...
  41. Wolka
    Wolka 12 February 2018 06: 12
    0
    victims again, but something went wrong again ...
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 12 February 2018 09: 44
      +3
      Quote: Volka
      victims again, but something went wrong again ...



      It went wrong in the 1991 year. Now it is only continuing.
  42. axxmanm
    axxmanm 12 February 2018 17: 26
    +2
    Also in the crash, Vyacheslav Ivanov, chief financial officer of Rosatom, who participated in Hillary’s uranium deal with Russia in 2009 under Barack Obama, died. There are other names on the list that correspond to persons associated with the UraniumOne affair and who were in high-level government circles in Russia related to Oil and Energy. These names are verified and additional information will be published about them. At the moment, at least two persons who are directly related to the UraniumOne transaction, and the “Russian Dossier” are known for sure. Now they are dead and cannot testify to anyone about anything. How convenient ...