Syrian air defense shot down an Israeli Air Force aircraft

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In the north of Israel, according to confirmed reports of the IDF General Staff, the plane crashed the country's Air Force. Information Service RIA News reports that the crew of the aircraft ejected.

According to some reports, we are talking about the plane F-16, which struck attacks on the territory of Syria.



Earlier it was reported that the Syrian troops activated the air defense system.

The Israeli aviation began the operation with the use of the (initially) attack helicopter, which was shot down by an “Iranian” drone, according to the IDF, heading towards Israel. Israeli aircraft then attacked military installations in the south of the Syrian Arab Republic.

Syrian air defense shot down an Israeli Air Force aircraft

In the picture - the plane of the Israeli Air Force


From the statement of the head of the press service of the Israeli army, Jonathan Konrikus:
A massive Syrian air defense fire, one F-16 crashed in Israel, pilots are safe.


Recall that earlier the chairman of the Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu, during a visit to the Golan Heights, said he would not tolerate the appearance of Iranian military bases in Syria.
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  1. +113
    10 February 2018 08: 57
    Go CZ00
    here, some Jews decided that they are immortal and beyond the reach of the Arabs ... as we see, there is a hole in the old woman.
    1. +72
      10 February 2018 08: 58
      So it turned out whose MANPADS shot down a Russian plane in Idlib.
      Otherwise, what is the answer.
      1. +14
        10 February 2018 08: 59
        Otherwise, what is the answer.


        Maybe ... but there is no evidence ... yet.
        They say, however, to Jordan ... what
        1. +14
          10 February 2018 09: 57
          In northern Israel, according to confirmed reports by the IDF General Staff, the country's Air Force crashed.

          I thought again the bird is to blame.
          1. +55
            10 February 2018 10: 08
            That's what life-giving air defense with democratic planes does smile
            1. +18
              10 February 2018 10: 22
              Quote: Thrall
              That's what life-giving air defense with democratic planes does smile

              I don’t know how it really is, but in the media you are seething serious:
              ... After the Israeli plane crashed, an air strike was struck in response to Syrian sites located in the central part of the country. As a result of this operation, Israel lost several more cars.
              "Our air defense opened fire and shot down several aircraft." - stated in the Syrian Armed Forces.
              1. +14
                10 February 2018 11: 08
                Yes, a tight knot tied around Syria. I wonder who is the Macedonian who cuts it?
                1. +5
                  10 February 2018 11: 52
                  Quote: Monos
                  Yes, a tight knot tied around Syria. I wonder who is the Macedonian who cuts it?

                  This is yes.

                  IDF
                  @IDFSpokesperson
                  Moments ago, IAF aircraft, targeted the Syrian Aerial Defense System & Iranian targets in Syria. 12 targets, including 3 aerial defense batteries & 4 Iranian military targets, were attacked. Anti-aircraft missiles were fired towards Israel, triggering alarms in northern Israel
                  10: 13 DP · 10 Feb 2018



                  1. +14
                    10 February 2018 12: 16
                    Moments ago, the IAF aimed at the Syrian air defense system and Iranian targets in Syria. 12 targets were attacked, including 3 air defense batteries and 4 Iranian military installations. Anti-aircraft missiles were fired at against Israel, causing alarm in northern Israel

                    You could not give a translation when referring to English texts.
                  2. +10
                    10 February 2018 13: 02
                    Aron, hello!
                    I hope the pilots get better. Worried about what will happen next. Bibi will not leave it that way, as I understand it. Strikes and responses will begin from two sides, which can lead to an even worse situation. That Iran and Lebanon can connect, the United States also will not stand aside. How could a new conflict flare up ?! What do you think? I would like to know your opinion, you know better there.
                    On the one hand, Assad could not tolerate these attacks on his territory - here, too, the Iranians and the hezbollah were putting pressure on retaliatory measures. It was clear that sooner or later it would begin to respond, especially since the air defense brought with the help of the Russian Federation to a more or less decent state.
                    On the other hand, Bibi’s actions can be understood about the Iranian UAV.
                    As if because of this, the fire did not flare up. I suppose that now the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Lavrov still have a little work to do - the phones are already breaking off so that the situation does not develop into a more severe form. hi
                    1. +16
                      10 February 2018 18: 02
                      Pilots will certainly get better, but apparently they will no longer fly due to lifelong diarrhea belay
                      1. +3
                        10 February 2018 18: 45
                        Quote: Separ
                        Pilots will certainly get better, but apparently they will no longer fly due to lifelong diarrhea belay

                        To give out the very wishful thinking is not right for an adult)))
                      2. 0
                        12 February 2018 09: 39
                        What are you talking about Jews? These are not Americans! They will fly, they need to work out the means that the Americans spent on Israel. And they are not cowards, unlike their sponsors.
                    2. +2
                      10 February 2018 21: 46
                      As if because of this, the fire did not flare up. I suppose that now the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Lavrov still have a little work to do - the phones are already breaking off so that the situation does not develop into a more severe form.


                      Foreign Ministry has already worked

                      About Israeli strikes on Syria
                      209-10-02-2018
                      MESSAGE FOR MEDIA

                      "We consider it necessary to unconditionally respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria and other countries of the region. It is absolutely unacceptable to create threats to the life and security of Russian troops who are in the SAR at the invitation of its legitimate government to assist in the fight against terrorists."

                      The Foreign Ministry has already openly said that the "flyers" pose a threat to our guys, they are enemies, we will regret the dead enemies after the victory. In the meantime, add the number to the report.
            2. +15
              10 February 2018 11: 22
              Thrall, you are a dishonest man. Every time your planes are shot down in Syria, all Israeli forum users express sincere condolences.
              1. +36
                10 February 2018 11: 29
                Quote: Hanokem
                ... Thrall, you are a dishonest man. Every time your planes are shot down in Syria, all Israeli forum users express sincere condolences ...

                Hanokem !!!
                I really apologize for getting into your accusatory opus hi
                Be so kind, explain to me my dear, that the Israeli plane forgot in the Syrian sky?
                And how does Thrall's honesty relate to this?
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                  1. +13
                    10 February 2018 11: 54
                    Syrian air defense system in southern Syria ceased to exist


                    Yes nuuu ... belay what they themselves saw that everything was destroyed ... everyone already counted ... appreciated in an hour ...

                    Pruffs ... Billy ... where are the Pruffs. smile
                    1. +16
                      10 February 2018 12: 03
                      Here are their proofs smile
                    2. +15
                      10 February 2018 12: 43
                      The S-200 model of 1967 shot down the F-16.
                      1. +7
                        10 February 2018 15: 26
                        Yes, and such a rarity got the modern F-16 ... what no luck for you Jews ... no luck ...
                        the old Soviet air defense monument got an improved version of the F-16 ... miracles. belay
                    3. +4
                      10 February 2018 12: 56
                      By evening, they will certainly be, the IDF press service will allow the publication of videos with attacks on Syrian systems
                  2. +14
                    10 February 2018 11: 55
                    Quote: Hanokem
                    At night, the Iranians launched a drone into our territory

                    thought that only your Crimea, and now also the Golan?
                    Quote: Hanokem
                    Our aircraft in response destroyed the Iranian base in Syria, from which the drone was launched.

                    we probably also need to shy away at their bases in response to the flights of the Americans.
                    Quote: Hanokem
                    Syrian air defense system in southern Syria ceased to exist

                    and Syria, too ... the whole world in ruins ... finally ... Yes
                    Py-Sy: "... was there a boy (drone)? ..."
                  3. +14
                    10 February 2018 12: 18
                    Quote: Hanokem
                    Iranian occupation forces in Syria

                    Sorry, but who did they occupy?
                    1. +4
                      10 February 2018 12: 58
                      They occupied Syria, kasatik, Syria ...
                      1. +10
                        10 February 2018 13: 08
                        Quote: Hanokem
                        They occupied Syria, kasatik, Syria ...

                        Russia probably also occupied ...
                        Israel is not interested in escalating the situation in Syria, and airstrikes on the territory of this country are defensive actions, said spokesman for the Israeli army command Jonathan Konricus.
                        According to him, the defensive actions of Israel were provoked by an act of aggression of Iran

                        oh how! ... well then, not in Iran ?! request laughing
                      2. +16
                        10 February 2018 13: 13
                        Quote: Hanokem
                        They occupied Syria

                        Exactly. At the invitation of the LEGAL SYRIAN GOVERNMENT. And then who are the Americans and the Turks in Syria? Oh God! I understand that the Americans occupied Israel on your territory! Wake up urgently, they occupied you! And kill the brazen invaders in the end!
                      3. +5
                        10 February 2018 14: 44
                        Quote: Hanokem
                        They occupied Syria

                        That is, they are there without the consent of the Syrian government? You did not confuse them with the United States?
                      4. +7
                        10 February 2018 14: 54
                        All occupied Syria. Only Israel sits in the Golan legally? Maybe the United States and the coalition in Syria are legally located?
                  4. +10
                    10 February 2018 13: 06
                    Iranian drone, in the sky of Israel, in fact a violation of the state border, the offender is destroyed, the situation is settled. So t, Israel is striking Syria. And what does Syria have to do with an Iranian drone shot down in Israel. This is probably scary in Iran, but in Syria you can shoot. Well, it began to be Russia, after the Turks shot down our plane, had to strike a nuclear weapon at Israel. Well, why not, the logic is the same.
                  5. +31
                    10 February 2018 13: 10
                    I didn’t understand anything. Was the drone shot down? Shot down. In response to the Israeli air force dropping the drone, ISRAELI SAME Air Force attacked the territory of Syria? Why are you, really ... elected? And when one of the aggressor’s planes was shot down by the defenders, you raised the bolt: " But us for sho ?! "The top of duplicity and Pharisaism.
                  6. +7
                    10 February 2018 13: 55
                    Quote: Hanokem
                    At night, the Iranians <...> after that, a massive blow was struck against the Syrian air defense and the Iranian occupation forces in Syria.

                    It means that the blow was inflicted on the Syrian and Iranian occupation forces, illegally occupying the territory of Greater Israel?

                    What babble again. It is clear that all countries are solving their problems. Why Russia, USA, China, etc. they are proud of their conquests (yes, even the same Turkey), but from the Israelis it is heard: "we are not, we are not, the territory around us is joining us!"
                    1. +2
                      10 February 2018 14: 28
                      Quote: Dagen
                      Why Russia, USA, China, etc. proud of their conquests

                      Which ones?
                      Quote: Dagen
                      not us, we are not like that, the area around us joins us!

                      They say so about Crimea - it determined itself in favor of Russia.
                      1. +4
                        10 February 2018 14: 45
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        Which ones?

                        Everyone :) Starting from the accession of Kiev and Smolensk to Novgorod.
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        They say so about Crimea - it determined itself in favor of Russia.

                        Well, you can call the annexation of the Crimean Khanate to Russia at the end of the 18th century.
                  7. +2
                    10 February 2018 14: 14
                    At night, the Iranians launched a drone into our territory

                    To your ?? they gave it so they gave it.
                  8. +4
                    10 February 2018 16: 49
                    Where is the evidence that it was launched from an Iranian base?
                    Polygonal few problems, need new ones? fool
              2. +41
                10 February 2018 11: 35
                Quote: Hanokem
                Thrall, you are a dishonest man. Every time your planes are shot down in Syria, all Israeli forum users express sincere condolences.

                Taki, you are rude, ignorant and provocateur. With what I congratulate you Yes
                1. Did Israeli pilots die or are you already rushing to condole?
                2. This is a Russian (Russian-speaking) site - accordingly, their problems and their people are primarily concerned here.
                3. We have enough of our “teachers”, especially liberals and Westerners, and we don’t need to indicate what and how to do.
                My regards hi
              3. +9
                10 February 2018 18: 49
                While "some" Izrailites express "condolences, other Izrailians treat those who cut the heads of children, rape girls and eat human hearts, and also install various equipment on Georgian tanks to make it easier to kill unarmed Ossetian women and children and Russian peacekeepers. am
                So sho - the debt owed by payment is beautiful, I am not surprised if in the next Israeli Lebanese war "and suddenly" the ATGMs "vampire", "cornet", "competition" and all sorts of things are discovered.
              4. +2
                12 February 2018 11: 32
                they have such a job - perhaps our ours
          2. +8
            10 February 2018 10: 14
            Quote: figvam
            I thought again the bird is to blame.

            Falcon - ov or Ber-kut?
            1. +9
              10 February 2018 10: 34
              Li Xi is to blame.
              1. +8
                10 February 2018 10: 50
                Quote: Alexander 3
                Li Xi is to blame.

                And where does Si Xing? There was Kisa Vo Rob Yani Ov!
                1. +15
                  10 February 2018 11: 07
                  But how can this be so, about the army of the sons of David? wink winked

                  Vyacheslav !!! hi
                  1. +14
                    10 February 2018 11: 42
                    I saw them recently on an oath, with such asses and just go into battle with the Arabs, they really love such asses
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                      1. +7
                        10 February 2018 14: 12
                        Quote: Sasha Krymsky
                        You got it.
                        Here is a forum for pedophiles and perverts. Next.

                        That you beguiled, kasatik, this is a men's forum, so be careful with the definitions! And the girl in the Israeli army advertising is pretty! love
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                  2. +4
                    10 February 2018 12: 09
                    Quote: Solomon Kane
                    But how can this be so, about the army of the sons of David? wink winked

                    Vyacheslav !!! hi

                    What do you dislike about this portrait, I personally like it ....
                    1. +31
                      10 February 2018 13: 02


                      And such a spectacle can bring down the sight of a whole military unit laughing
                      1. +7
                        10 February 2018 13: 14
                        Quote: Stilett_71
                        And such a spectacle can shoot down the sight of an entire military unit laughing

                        You mean that one of them is left-handed? wink
                      2. +6
                        10 February 2018 14: 14
                        I've already hit
                      3. +8
                        10 February 2018 14: 30
                        Quote: Stilett_71


                        And such a spectacle can bring down the sight of a whole military unit laughing

                        The perspective is not bad, but the excess must be removed - weapons and military uniforms.
                      4. 0
                        10 February 2018 20: 01
                        Quote: Stilett_71


                        And such a spectacle can bring down the sight of a whole military unit laughing

                        The cruel question is, if you have an enemy in front of you, what part of your body will you strive to get into?
                    2. +2
                      10 February 2018 14: 08
                      So, in my opinion, not a word about the portrait ....
                      In this case, sarcasm about the comment ... don't lose the logical thread ... hi
                    3. +4
                      10 February 2018 14: 14
                      Posing among your own people is a wonderful occupation, but standing in front of a crowd of fanatics will also be fun. Yes, and it’s not a woman’s war, there is nothing to boast of.
                    4. +1
                      10 February 2018 16: 56
                      Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
                      What do you dislike about this portrait, I personally like it ....

                      Hairstyle. In a normal woman, her hair is either tidied up or a hairstyle is a 100% sign that she is watching herself, she respects herself. And this kind of "I fell from the dump truck, pulled my head ..."
                  3. +2
                    10 February 2018 14: 29
                    Quote: Solomon Kane
                    But how can this be so, about the army of the sons of David? wink winked

                    Vyacheslav !!! hi

                    A sad sight!
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2018 14: 32
                      From where dug up. I really thought my wife was in commercials.
                      1. +6
                        10 February 2018 14: 38
                        Not! With such girls, it’s nice to serve ....

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                2. +3
                  10 February 2018 13: 00
                  Right !!! hi
                  I have nothing to do with !!! feel
                3. Ber
                  +9
                  10 February 2018 13: 06
                  Vietnamese pilot Li Si Qing.

                  1. +4
                    10 February 2018 13: 27
                    Quote: Ber
                    Vietnamese pilot Li Si Qing.

                    The codeword..
                    Vietnamese !!! good
                    Siskin, I respect very much !!! Yes
                    1. +4
                      10 February 2018 15: 19
                      Quote: LiSiCyn
                      The codeword..
                      Vietnamese !!!

                      Do not like the code word "Vietnamese" - please "Arabic" laughing
                      I run to takeoff on the sand
                      Hermoshlem buttoned on the go,
                      My mirage with the star of David -
                      Mosh and proud Hel Avira
                      With a roar, gaining height (2 times)
                      .........
                      Only in the end I asked
                      "Who is the pilot who shot me down?"
                      And the Arabs answered in the foretaste of Raspravava:
                      "Our pilot Boabdil shot you down."

                      You're lying - Boabdil wasn't there
                      There, I heard someone say:
                      -Sanya, Nesher is under you
                      -Took it right now
                      And he launched a rocket under my tail.

                      Here I lie in the midst of dry grass
                      Without eggs, hands and head.
                      It doesn’t rush to me with a whistle in the sky blue and pure
                      I met Ivan, alas.
                      1. +1
                        10 February 2018 15: 51
                        Quote: Serg Koma
                        Our pilot Boabdil shot you down. ”

                        belay Who ... ??
                        Maybe al-Badin?
                        Or, El-Panin ?? wink
                    2. +5
                      10 February 2018 16: 58
                      Quote: LiSiCyn
                      Quote: Ber
                      Vietnamese pilot Li Si Qing.

                      The codeword..
                      Vietnamese !!! good
                      Siskin, I respect very much !!! Yes

                      Well, for the health and military success of all the pilots Li Xi Qing. drinks soldier fellow
                      1. +4
                        10 February 2018 17: 39
                        This, I am forever ready !!! good
                        For Our pilots !!!
                        Wherever they were !!!
                        And, with any last names ... wink
              2. +9
                10 February 2018 12: 58
                Quote: Alexander 3
                Li Xi is to blame.

                Me again ?!!! belay
                I give an honest, honest word that I slept at home ...
                I have repeatedly stated ...
                Us in Syria, NO ... stop
                But there are, Al-Sokolov, Al-Bodrov, etc. wink
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          4. +9
            10 February 2018 11: 02
            Quote: figvam
            I thought the bird was to blame again

            calculation of the bird submitted to the state award
            1. +4
              10 February 2018 17: 00
              Quote: Gregory_45
              calculation of the bird submitted to the state award

              and an extraordinary vacation in the Crimea. Our birds are the best, glory to the birds. drinks
              1. +6
                10 February 2018 19: 00
                By the way, it’s a cool idea for “naval humor”, we need to give an idea to those who give names to weapons - let them change the “tradition” and call the air defense missiles “birds”. That joke will read "American F-35 shot down by Russian grouse" laughing good
                1. +2
                  10 February 2018 19: 07
                  Quote: Mih1974
                  they call air defense missiles "birds."

                  tightly grouse)
                  1. +2
                    10 February 2018 19: 11
                    laughing I would choose something for the more ardent - "woodpecker", "black-headed ibis" good . You just listen to how it sounds - the black-headed (heи) ibis (with ny) laughing
        2. +7
          10 February 2018 11: 26
          Breaking News - Israel has just announced that it has destroyed 12 sites in Syria, including an air defense base. The Turkish news channel has a live report from Israel. Within 15 minutes, the airspace of Israel was closed, now reopened.
      2. +35
        10 February 2018 09: 18
        Well. finally, the retaliation has come true. In any case, the Israelis will now act with great care, and this is good.
        1. +12
          10 February 2018 09: 23
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Well. finally, the retaliation has come true. In any case, the Israelis will now act with great care, and this is good.

          Rather, there will be an answer. And it will also be called retaliation.
          1. +15
            10 February 2018 10: 12
            Here it is unlikely. The level of Syrian air defense has reached a certain level. Israel is not ready to lose planes all the time, and a full-scale war is fraught for everyone. Oil is $ 62 per barrel, in January it exceeded $ 70, any new BV-conflict will raise the price and the West will be sad.
            1. +8
              10 February 2018 10: 28
              The massive fire of Syrian air defense, one F-16 crashed in Israel, pilots are safe.
              why can't we save the pilots? Why is Russia worse than Israel?
              1. +30
                10 February 2018 10: 30
                Quote: Salute
                why can't we save the pilots? Why is Russia worse than Israel?

                The fact that Israel flies over Lebanon and the Golan, and our attack aircraft worked on enemy territory.
                1. +5
                  10 February 2018 10: 47
                  Is Lebanon Ally of Israel?
                  1. +5
                    10 February 2018 10: 54
                    Quote: Salute
                    Is Lebanon Ally of Israel?

                    The enemy is fierce, but does not have air defense, or rather it has it conditionally. Plus geographically extended, flies quickly.
                  2. +1
                    10 February 2018 10: 55
                    And what, the plane crashed in Lebanon?
                2. Maz
                  +4
                  10 February 2018 11: 11
                  They are doubly brave in Israel, too. The chosen ones.
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              2. +13
                10 February 2018 11: 04
                Quote: Salute
                why can't we save the pilots?

                when a pilot catapults over his territory (all the more so small as Israel) - save his chances of almost 100% - if nothing catches him when he catapults. Nobody shoots at him, nobody wants to take him prisoner - on the contrary. the population will provide all possible assistance.
                1. Maz
                  +1
                  10 February 2018 12: 05
                  The co-pilot of the aircraft was severely burned, the condition is extremely serious. The first pilot - minor damage
            2. +14
              10 February 2018 10: 41
              I think just the opposite - the state of Syrian air defense leaves much to be desired. But Jewish pilots are very professional and competent. And their technique is fine
              1. +8
                10 February 2018 10: 50
                Quote: Gritsa
                the state of Syrian air defense is poor

                The Russian Federation has modernized the old Soviet complexes, in some places they say replaced the GOS with new ones, it is possible that the data from the ZGRLS were transmitted to the Syrians and it will no longer be possible to sneak over the horizon. They warned once, warned the second time, but so far they shot down one. Israel has not a thousand aircraft, the loss of one car is essential for defense, but 3-4, generally unacceptable losses, if there is no large-scale war.
                1. +2
                  10 February 2018 11: 07
                  Quote: hrych
                  The Russian Federation has modernized the old Soviet systems, in some places they say replaced the GOS with new ones, it is possible that the data from the ZGRLS

                  somewhere else, except from your words (no, I believe that you, of course, did not come up, but I would like confirmation), can I hear, read?
                  1. +5
                    10 February 2018 11: 12
                    Quote: Gregory_45
                    but I would like confirmation), can I hear and read?

                    We read the best military-related website called Military Review laughing
                    https://topwar.ru/95268-sovremennoe-sostoyanie-si
                    stemy-pvo-siriyskoy-arabskoy-respubliki.html
                    1. 0
                      10 February 2018 11: 39
                      NothingThere is no link confirming your words. But there is eloquent information that most of the Syrian air defense was destroyed during the civil war and the bearded raids. This is what I know, in fact, and that is why the question. So you can reinforce your words
                      Quote: hrych
                      The Russian Federation has modernized the old Soviet systems, in some places they say replaced the GOS with new ones, it is possible that the data from the ZGRLS
                      ?
                      1. 0
                        10 February 2018 11: 52
                        I suggest you google it yourself, the Internet will help you, I'm too lazy to look for where I read about GOS.
                2. +12
                  10 February 2018 11: 09
                  Really not thousands. Only hundreds. They won’t even notice 3-4 airplanes, they’re mostly worried about pilots.

                  Syria is now in no condition to confront at least some external enemy. And Jewish Jews can also decide on a land operation. Their rhetoric is very hawkish.
                  1. +7
                    10 February 2018 11: 46
                    Quote: alexmach
                    Really not thousands. Only hundreds.

                    And Assad has thousands of anti-aircraft missiles, and with proper use, theoretically, you can knock out the entire park
                    Quote: alexmach
                    Syria is now in no condition to confront at least some external enemy

                    Here you are deeply mistaken, the SAA is quite combat-ready for army operations, the current army units with combat experience and are well equipped. Instructors have taken care of better coordination of forces and management of units. The problem with the barmels is different, there is partisanism, swoops from the desert, and at that time a massive betrayal of the military, etc. Now the professional backbone has been created, they are ready for a maneuver war. Especially after digestion of boilers. Imagine that in order to cook a boiler, you need to completely surround it, create several echelons, etc. There is a tactical environment when the exit routes are shot from high-rise buildings, for example, highways are blocked, it is easier to hold such a boiler. You can blockers do not even have a numerical superiority. But boilers in settlements, etc., are a very expensive undertaking. There is still a limit on means and tactics, so as not to offend the peaceful.
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2018 12: 23
                      And Assad has thousands of anti-aircraft missiles, and with proper use, theoretically, you can knock out the entire park

                      Thousands? I think you are exaggerating. In addition, how many of them are modern and combat-ready? In addition, is it possible to withstand airstrikes without having our own aircraft and relying only on ground-based means?
                      Here you are deeply mistaken, SAA is quite combat-ready precisely for army operations

                      Well .. as if I were not there, but it seems to me that they ate, ate, tipped the scales in the Civil War to their side. And any external intervention can again reverse this situation. I doubt that if there is a protracted civil war, they can actually confront someone's regular army.
                      1. +6
                        10 February 2018 12: 45
                        Hezbollah forced the Israelis to leave the occupied territories of Lebanon, then fought off the Israelis in the 2nd Lebanon War, now it has hardened in battles, increased its personnel, and received better equipment. There are also IRGCs that are very combat-ready, there are Tigers, etc. Assad has aircraft, although weakened, has heavy weapons and tactical missiles. Air defense is certainly not layered, but objective. Ours taught them how to use, the first results on intercepting missiles appeared, now there is a downed plane, and the F-35th was planted by a crane, which cannot be shown. There, after all, how, attack Israel on an Arab country and Arabs with Turks will throw a fight and go to Israel, all the more new ways of warfare have appeared. There is Turkey, there is Iran, how Egypt behaves is unknown. There is nuclear Pakistan, there is Indonesia. The Islamic world has pulled itself up, well, beaten Arabs, well, at least learned something.
                    2. 0
                      10 February 2018 19: 03
                      Quote: hrych
                      And Assad has thousands of anti-aircraft missiles, and with proper use, theoretically, you can knock out the entire park

                      Not at all like that. Firstly, you overestimated the number of times several times, many missiles were simply destroyed, and many were unusable due to non-maintenance.
                      secondly, for the most part there is frank junk (C-75, C-125, Cube),
                      thirdly, the missiles themselves do not solve anything. Do you think the Jews are so stupid to destroy PU? They will knock out SOC (radar, guidance station) - in everything, the SAM has turned into a pile of iron. Not capable of Syrian air defense to withstand the Israeli air force. Pilots know how to fly, use competent tactics, use electronic warfare, which is effective against obsolete air defense systems. Otherwise, they would have piled Israeli "efoks" already in piles. There were many starts - and today’s only successful.
                  2. +3
                    10 February 2018 13: 12
                    Quite right, only local hooray fighters do not understand this. Syria, in the best of times, could not fully oppose Israel, but now even more so ... The miserable remnants of Syrian air defense can be destroyed in a matter of minutes.
                    There is no sense in a ground operation, missile strikes against an almost defenseless enemy from this are safer and safer - a favorite tactic of our "partners".
            3. +1
              10 February 2018 11: 49
              Quote: hrych
              Here it is unlikely. The level of Syrian air defense has reached a certain level.

              "One must understand the whole depth of our depths."? This will not stop the Jews. While they feel threatened by themselves.
              1. +5
                10 February 2018 12: 54
                Here, after all, something else, around the world, they began, slowly, to accuse financiers of mortal sins, this is the case of Weinstein at first glance, but the image of the enemy of society is being formed, the stars of mass culture are involved. A kind of vile, ugly pervert with money and influence, forcing unhappy, novice actresses and actors to disgusting orgies. The horrors of the "Catastrophe" snapped up and are already annoying the average man. Eastern Europe is simply mired in Nazism, the right already claim power in Austria and even France. There is thunder, as it will strike ...
            4. +3
              10 February 2018 17: 48
              Quote: hrych
              Oil is $ 62 per barrel, in January it exceeded $ 70, any new BV-conflict will raise the price and the West will be sad.

              We also want to acquire Saudis from our C - 400, you see, they thought about democratic bombing, so there are some plans for disobedience to the United States. I still smell the price of oil.
        2. +22
          10 February 2018 09: 36
          Quote: Giant thought
          Well. finally, the retaliation has come true. In any case, the Israelis will now act with great care, and this is good.

          Few. Let Israeli pilots save themselves, but planes fall and fall ...
          1. +1
            10 February 2018 11: 26
            Thank you for the pilots, but we will do our best so that the planes do not fall, but there were all kinds of troubles with the Iranian occupation forces in Syria
            1. +4
              10 February 2018 11: 58
              Interestingly. Your position is understandable, but according to it, are the Russians occupiers?
              Oh well...
              Then, since we occupied Syria, then we don’t want an inch from someone else’s land, but we won’t give up our tip.
            2. +3
              10 February 2018 17: 04
              Quote: Hanokem
              all sorts of trouble happened with the Iranian occupation forces in Syria

              Iranian troops are not occupying, unlike the Western coalition and Turkey, which occupied the surviving and transferred to them ISIS gratis surviving oil refineries and towers.
        3. +1
          10 February 2018 10: 31
          there is an easy way to end the war - to accept the faith (religion) of the enemy
          and then the Jews and Arabs will live in peace

          very restrained brothers comment on their "landing"
          no freedom of expression
      3. +15
        10 February 2018 09: 33
        The first one went ... fellow Americans are in line ..
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          1. +3
            10 February 2018 10: 51
            I agree with you
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          2. +6
            10 February 2018 13: 36
            If this is an appeal to me, then I will get high when the aggressor gets his teeth, and Vasya is warning you, worry about your striped friends. fellow
          3. +3
            10 February 2018 18: 01
            Quote: igorka357
            The same scum like you, only on the other hand ... talked about our 24th .... stupid and soulless grunts!

            I’m stopped by the fact that there are many of our former compatriots! recourse Moreover, they go to the side and they will be very unhappy and disgusted that we rejoice in their grief! In short, in business, scattered us all on different sides! They now have their own interests, we have our own recourse
        2. +2
          10 February 2018 21: 22
          Quote: INVESTOR
          The first one went ... The Americans are next in line ..

          Given that one day flew from the Jews, is there an understanding of what will fly from the Americans who are on your line?
      4. +43
        10 February 2018 09: 37
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        Otherwise, what is the answer.

        I do not know the answer or not, but very pleased. Something Jews are too arrogantly behaving. They fly into someone else’s airspace, strike at another’s territory. In a word - glad, very happy.
        1. +22
          10 February 2018 10: 04
          There is nothing special to rejoice - there will be an escalation of the confrontation, in which Syria is not in the most advantageous position both in the military aspect and in the economic one. The result was expected, since the descendants of Davidov lost their shores and were not going to look for them. As a result, they were lowered from heaven to earth, and literally too. Now Israel needs to seek a political solution to prevent a possible next conflict with its closest neighbors, which had to be done much earlier, when Syria was in a critical situation, and not finish it off with ISIS.
          1. +23
            10 February 2018 10: 51
            Jews are just dumb. They have lost a unique chance in history to reconcile with the Arabs. In this difficult period, it was not necessary to spoil Syria, but to help it in the destruction of ISIS and other barmels. The Syrian people would be sincerely grateful to them, and perhaps Syria and Israel would become good allies. And further, the rest of the Arabs could throw the world.
            But the Jews were not as smart as we previously thought, but just the opposite.
            1. +6
              10 February 2018 11: 09
              Quote: Gritsa
              In this difficult period, it was not necessary to spoil Syria, but to help it in the destruction of ISIS and other barmels.

              how can Jews go against the opinion of their main allies and breadwinners - the United States?
            2. +3
              10 February 2018 11: 46
              Quote: Gritsa
              Jews are just dumb. They have lost a unique chance in history to reconcile with the Arabs.

              Oh, you do not know Arabs)))) To the God-chosen, I also do not feel much reverence in connection with the latest events in Syria. But the Arabs are not white, and fluffy. And those and others in the first place money. There is no morality, or rather, there is the morality of the golden calf. Arabs hucksters are still those. Now we are standing by the wall for Syria. But no matter what happens, after about 30 years, that they will forget about our victims for the sake of their independence. And they will become pleasing to those who offer them more, who are against us.
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 17: 21
                completely in the hole. Neither of those nor the others have the honor of “losing their belly for others”
            3. +2
              10 February 2018 12: 49
              Quote: Gritsa
              the Jews weren’t so smart

              Cunning Jews, all the time, did not meet smart ones. request
              1. +5
                10 February 2018 18: 21
                Quote: K-50
                Cunning Jews, all the time, did not meet smart ones.

                And I met and knew a smart and decent person and he really helped my mother literally pulled him out of the world! He is the chief therapist in the city and an honorary citizen Volpe Simon Leizerovich
          2. +1
            10 February 2018 11: 16
            Quote: Black Colonel
            There is nothing special to rejoice - there will be an escalation of the confrontation, in which Syria is not in the most advantageous position both in the military aspect and in the economic one. The result was expected, since the descendants of Davidov lost their shores and were not going to look for them. As a result, they were lowered from heaven to earth, and literally too. Now Israel needs to seek a political solution to prevent a possible next conflict with its closest neighbors, which had to be done much earlier, when Syria was in a critical situation, and not finish it off with ISIS.

            Colonel, in your post there are two scenarios, and both are affirmative. You really stop at any one. Of course, you are right when considering the first option, and, of course, the second option would be preferable for us. Which of these options will the sons of David choose? We will see.
          3. +3
            10 February 2018 11: 16
            But I honestly can’t understand why this is for Israel? Let there be escalation, there will be losses. This will lead to the fact that Russia will have to deploy full-fledged air defense on the Syrian border, under the guise of iskander with no known warhead. And an official warning on the Mid line. Sleeping in Telaviv. And everything will stop. Pure defense from Russia.
            And after that, Syria and Iran agree and massively build what they want. This is their sovereign business.
          4. Maz
            +7
            10 February 2018 11: 18
            Quote: Black Colonel
            There is nothing special to rejoice - there will be an escalation of the confrontation, in which Syria is not in the most advantageous position both in the military aspect and in the economic one. The result was expected, since the descendants of Davidov lost their shores and were not going to look for them. As a result, they were lowered from heaven to earth, and literally too. Now Israel needs to seek a political solution to prevent a possible next conflict with its closest neighbors, which had to be done much earlier, when Syria was in a critical situation, and not finish it off with ISIS.

            Yah! You study the situation .. In Israel, terrorist attack after terrorist attack. Everyday! Watch the news. The army was put on high alert yesterday due to the likelihood of an Arab rebellion. Two battalions changed their locations in full combat. For a small country, this is a crazy rearrangement of troops in peacetime. Tanks brought out = extinguished on platforms on the roads. And to the greasy, glossy Israel to fight against Syria? Shekel instantly collapses to six for a dollar. God forbid mobilization and a new war. The election is coming. What kind of war? Oscite, colleague. Here it is fine to spoil - it’s normal, but to fight to the fullest - dismiss. This business is not favorites - they can kill, injure, cripple. How then to type a client code in a bank on a keyboard?
          5. +1
            10 February 2018 21: 23
            Quote: Black Colonel
            Now Israel needs to seek a political solution to prevent a possible next conflict with its closest neighbors,

            Why look for him?
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          1. +18
            10 February 2018 10: 54
            not everyone here is like that, for example, I remember that many sincerely Israelites condoled with the death of Major Filippov soldier
            1. +16
              10 February 2018 11: 33
              I am joining. Israel was among the first and almost the only ones to express condolences over the terrorist attacks in Moscow and the events in Beslan - at a time when the whole English-speaking team was drinking champagne. It’s good that the pilot escaped. But in any case, Israel and Syria need to seek reconciliation - no one needs a new slaughter.
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 11: 50
                Quote: Resident of the Urals
                But in any case, Israel and Syria need to seek reconciliation - no one needs a new slaughter.

                Too much blood in between. Reconciliation may not wait, but just live nearby. To live without interfering with each other. Utopia, of course, but why not?
              2. +2
                10 February 2018 21: 25
                Quote: Resident of the Urals
                in Beslan - while the whole English-speaking team was drinking champagne

                You're lying. Not a single notable Western media supported the rally in Beslan.
              3. 0
                11 February 2018 05: 18
                Quote: A resident of the Urals
                I am joining. Israel was among the first and almost the only ones to express condolences over the terrorist attacks in Moscow and the events in Beslan - at a time when the whole English-speaking team was drinking champagne. It’s good that the pilot escaped. But in any case, Israel and Syria need to seek reconciliation - no one needs a new slaughter.

                Do not flatter yourself: Israel expresses condolences to everyone - in the hope that everyone will harness to defend the small defenseless Israel - well, keep your pocket wider.
                In general, this is Israel’s blue dream - to harness as many countries and organizations as possible in the fight against world terrorism - read - in the fight against the enemies of Israel. You fight here - and in Tel Aviv they will drink coffee. - such a dream. Let them manage - the guys themselves, themselves.
          2. +19
            10 February 2018 10: 56
            They prayed for a long time and waited for the victim, like jackals.
            Cynical as it may be - but really a holiday. Because the jackals are just you who jump into someone else's territory and shit on everyone. One jackal was shot. What is not joy?
          3. +10
            10 February 2018 10: 56
            Jackals are only you when you attack a virtually defenseless country.
          4. +24
            10 February 2018 11: 14
            What did the Israeli air force forget about the territory of Syria? How many times did Israeli artillery strike at Syrian government forces in response to guided militant provocations?

            You yourself serve the USA like jackals, so yes today is our holiday - you got what you deserved ...

            I am sincerely glad that your pilots were not injured, I hope they tell the rest that they should not invade a foreign country and bomb everyone in it ... Next time, maybe it’s not so lucky ...

            You will not get a single inch of Syrian land and do not try to play us on the side of ISIS !!!
          5. +29
            10 February 2018 11: 21
            Well what can I tell you. Pilots are alive, Thank God. Colleague, understand that if your fighter was shot down while working on Israeli territory (defense of the country), I would be the first to sympathize. From my personal point of view, the situation is as follows - Syria is literally bleeding, it is torn to pieces by anyone who is not lazy. And you there too. Something like this.
            1. +7
              10 February 2018 14: 29
              Syria is literally bleeding, it is torn to pieces by everyone who is not lazy. And you there too. Something like this..
              This is not even jackals. And not even hyenas. It looks more like vultures and ravens.
          6. Maz
            +10
            10 February 2018 11: 25
            And you thought, colleague, they will watch how you do abominations under the guise of fighting terrorism? No, not that case. Go cry, grave Shabbat - the road to Jerusalem is free - the approach to the Western Wall is free. On the left, men, on the right, women, a pile of free right on the go - forward Sasha. Do not forget to wash your hands and wash there faucets on the left in the wall.
          7. +21
            10 February 2018 11: 29
            Quote: Sasha Crimean
            Judging by the reaction of the patriots and anti-Semites to the VO, they have a great holiday today, no more or less than Victory Day or at least New Year's.
            They prayed for a long time and waited for the victim, like jackals.
            And the victim is not, well, the old car fell, well, and figs with it!
            But you anti-Semites still have fun - today is your holiday. At least something than nothing for your tenderness.

            Alexander, you are literally wrong in all your promises.
            Firstly, I am not a patriot, I am just a patriot. Secondly, I’m never an anti-Semite. Thirdly, I am not happy with the fact that they shot down, even an old, Israeli plane, but with the fact that the aggressor was punished in this way. If a Syrian plane flew into Israeli airspace, what would your air defense do with it? And besides, if he repeatedly launched rocket-bombing strikes on the territory of Israel, explaining that there were bases of anti-Assad gangs. So, if you have a conscience and honor, then you must admit that the actions of the Israeli Air Force are unauthorized and worthy of punishment.
          8. +3
            10 February 2018 11: 34
            Sasha, just a spokesman for Manelis said the plane was shot down, we are talking about the Sufa F-16I aircraft (this is the latest version of the F-16). Do not worry about the reaction of some members of the forum. As elsewhere, there are PEOPLE and there are non-PEOPLE.
          9. +7
            10 February 2018 13: 27
            Quote: Sasha Crimean
            Judging by the reaction of the patriots and anti-Semites to the VO, they have a great holiday today, no more or less than Victory Day or at least New Year's.
            They prayed for a long time and waited for the victim, like jackals.
            And the victim is not, well, the old car fell, well, and figs with it!
            But you anti-Semites still have fun - today is your holiday. At least something than nothing for your tenderness.


            what are these shortcuts for ?? no one prayed for the downing of your plane, they prayed that God would reason you and give you a little brain for the ability to negotiate. You behave too straightforwardly - just a bit into a fight. Why is your approach annoying many? You are always trying to teach someone - "there are two opinions - one of ours, the other wrong."
            As for your shot down - people are the most important thing, the pilot is alive, and the piece of iron is not a pity, therefore, no condolences are needed. If without emotions, look at the comments, the vast majority of attacks on you because you do not want to take into account and listen to the opinions of others. After all, your heads were cut near your side and it didn’t bother you much - it’s against Assad’s enemy! Why didn’t Israel attack these creatures? You yourself know the answer, and so do we. So without children's insults and without arrogance. Then one of your comrades last year said that Syria is YOUR sandbox and will be it, and when it came to "take your toys away ... not into my pot," I’m immediately outraged. hi
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              1. +5
                10 February 2018 14: 11
                Quote: Sasha Crimean
                Assad and his daddy cut the heads of their own people for dogo igles, and you were not worried either.
                Coincidence? I do not think.


                belay firstly, about the cut - not cut ... Saddam, too, was still a goose! But something about the terrorists was not very audible. So about Assad - there was a country, there was at least some kind of stability, until we got in from the side.

                secondly, where is Russia and where is Syria ?? and where is Israel? Why should we care more than you? When this began to threaten us, it’s no secret that there were a lot of “our” immigrants (it sounds good in the past!), And we, unfortunately, must not forget the “rebels” in the Caucasus, and the attacks had to intervene. Yes, and Russia did not have opportunities before such as it is now. Is it unprofitable for your country to have stability in a neighboring country ?? You have few problems ?? Why are you so excited about Assad? Cuts, doesn’t cut - it should not care! Not the Jews!

                well, and thirdly - our VKS came there for the REQUEST of the government recognized by the UN. Formally, the letter of the law no complaints.
          10. +7
            10 February 2018 13: 53
            Quote: Sasha Crimean
            Judging by the reaction of the patriots and anti-Semites to the VO, they have a great holiday today, no more or less than Victory Day or at least New Year's.
            They prayed for a long time and waited for the victim, like jackals.
            And the victim is not, well, the old car fell, well, and figs with it!
            But you anti-Semites still have fun - today is your holiday. At least something than nothing for your tenderness.

            Firstly: I do not laugh with enthusiasm and prayer for the repose of the Israeli military, I never offered up - without me there are enough people who want it - the whole Middle East and all of Asia are in line.
            Secondly - do not be discouraged - the F-16 is a good car, and the C200 rocket is also good.
            Beyond the applicability to these pilots (whom I wish to live and live), I am pleased to make sure that American-made cars go astray with our missiles, which is good.
            Once again, health pilots.
            1. +5
              10 February 2018 14: 44
              Quote: Varna
              Once again, health pilots.

              Pray for the health of the fallen Luftwaffe pilots, and what, what difference does it make to which enemy to sympathize with?
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 15: 24
                Quote: KaPToC
                Quote: Varna
                Once again, health pilots.

                Pray for the health of the fallen Luftwaffe pilots, and what, what difference does it make to which enemy to sympathize with?

                There, in this Middle East, all the guys are good, that Arabs, that Jews.
                I would not single out one of them: we do not need either friends or enemies.
                Just play in their sandbox, collect toys and go home.

                "Mom, I’ve already poked around here, can I go home?)))"
                1. +3
                  10 February 2018 15: 27
                  Quote: Varna
                  I would not single out one of them: we do not need either friends or enemies.

                  It is you who justify your sympathy for villains, there is a difference. Syrians are fighting for their country on their territory, Israel is bombing another state.
          11. +3
            10 February 2018 17: 08
            Quote: Sasha Krymsky
            But you anti-Semites still have fun - today is your holiday. Though something than nothing for your tenderness

            Yes lano, do not whine. Tired of it. This is a Russian site for Russians. And guests need to reckon with the opinions of the hosts. Go to sleep .
          12. +2
            10 February 2018 17: 39
            You should not judge everyone like that.
        3. +11
          10 February 2018 10: 45
          Jews relaxed from impunity. In addition, over the territory of sovereign Lebanon they fly like their own. from there and peel. God marks the assault.
      5. +17
        10 February 2018 09: 48
        Quote: Nikolay S.
        So it turned out whose MANPADS shot down a Russian plane in Idlib.
        Otherwise, what is the answer.

        What nonsense. The Syrians have long tried to bring down our plane. They succeeded. Well done.
        1. +10
          10 February 2018 09: 52
          Did the pilot survive?
          1. +2
            10 February 2018 10: 00
            Did the pilot survive?


            In the hospital is.
            1. +3
              10 February 2018 11: 35
              Operated in stable condition. Glory to Gd
          2. 0
            10 February 2018 11: 21
            https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5103388,
            00.html video One of the inhabitants of Galilee managed to remove the bailout of pilots.
          3. Maz
            +1
            10 February 2018 12: 07
            Both pilots are alive, but one of the pilots is in extremely serious condition - large burns.
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              1. +4
                10 February 2018 14: 16
                Do not be rude, my friend.
        2. +8
          10 February 2018 09: 54
          The Syrians have long tried to bring down our plane. They succeeded. Well done.

          Share secrets ... smile what they shot down ... under what circumstances and what did the Israeli pilot do to avoid defeat by air defense systems. what
          Extremely interesting.
          1. +18
            10 February 2018 10: 09
            Quote: The same Lech
            ... than they shot down ...

            They write:
            ... the Pantsir-S air defense systems were deployed ...


            Fell near the kibbutz Harduf in the Jezreel Valley.
            1. +10
              10 February 2018 10: 22
              The shell is very unlikely. And the range is not the same and the explosion is too large for the shell.
              1. +13
                10 February 2018 10: 51
                Quote: Muvka
                ... Shell is very unlikely. And the range is not the same and the explosion is too large for the shell ...

                There the Syrians have such a hodgepodge of air defense systems that you break your brain ...
                We operate with the information that is available.
                Damn one leg, in these "victories" on both sides. The Syrians are felling squadrons of Israelis. The Israelis, in general, no one has ever shot down, they have completely birds in the engine ...
            2. +11
              10 February 2018 10: 48
              Five kilometers from my house.
              Around 5:30 in the morning there was a powerful gaze, the dog was very scared.
              1. +15
                10 February 2018 11: 22
                Quote: Sasha Crimean
                ... five kilometers from my house ...

                Himself, the family - alive and well, well, thank God.
                1. +4
                  10 February 2018 14: 00
                  Quote: Andrey K
                  Quote: Sasha Crimean
                  ... five kilometers from my house ...

                  Himself, the family - alive and well, well, thank God.

                  Thank you, everything is normal! The dog is not accustomed to explosions - young yet.
                  1. +6
                    10 February 2018 14: 32
                    The dog is not accustomed to explosions - young yet.
                    I think it's time to get used to it ...
            3. +5
              10 February 2018 11: 11
              Quote: Andrey K
              They write:
              ... the Pantsir-S air defense systems were deployed

              they may have been involved, but they have spoiled the "bird" already at the border itself, otherwise it would not have flown "for the ribbon" and would not have flopped on the territory of Israel. Most likely the S-200 worked
            4. +1
              10 February 2018 12: 18
              Something about the “Shell” is a big doubt.
        3. +16
          10 February 2018 10: 04
          They endured, endured, endured and could not endure. And to dream ... of world domination is your oddity.
        4. +20
          10 February 2018 10: 21
          I hope the pilots are alive and the plane is a piece of iron
          1. +1
            10 February 2018 10: 36
            EVERYWHERE WORSE
            THE WORLD RETURNED IN THE 60-YEAR - THE CRASH OF THE COLONIAL SYSTEM
            victory of one weapon over dr (RF = USSR already? or moving in that direction)
            could not guide the universe to bring nations to the world. balancing interests did not happen.
            Israel will be in place of India (with a division into 2 states?) ???? or Mozambique? or Iraq? how is the role of indonesia?
          2. +4
            10 February 2018 11: 02
            Quote: Lex.
            I hope the pilots are alive and the plane is a piece of iron

            The bailout itself is dangerous for the spine .... still that extreme.
            1. +1
              10 February 2018 11: 09
              So die better?
              1. +9
                10 February 2018 11: 28
                Quote: Lex.
                So die better?


                It depends on what condition the body will remain after treatment. If, for example, in the form of protoplasm pissing into a catheter and crushing into a colossum, it would be better to die.
                1. +2
                  10 February 2018 13: 36
                  Only relatives of this pilot are against
        5. +6
          10 February 2018 10: 34
          yes you all went ... for moishe or like him, Moses
        6. Maz
          +4
          10 February 2018 11: 30
          No, not well done. Clever. First, they shot close, then rockets shot down, and now the plane. Hint at thick circumstances in case of continued attacks. Interestingly, they will take note or again stupidly climb to Damascus?
      6. +4
        10 February 2018 12: 16
        You say that it’s such a super task to get the “Needle”. Yes, anyone could pass it on to the terrorists. Starting from the "non-brothers", ending with the usual "black" arms dealers from the same Russia.
    2. +34
      10 February 2018 08: 59
      Oh! The sorrow of the untouchables ... belay
      here, some Jews decided that they are immortal and beyond the reach of the Arabs ... as we see, there is a hole in the old woman.
      1. +40
        10 February 2018 09: 09
        Quote: Cutter
        ...Oh! The sorrow of the untouchables ... belay

        This passage yard, in a strange airspace, has long been covered up.
        Now it turns out that the plane crashed because some “bird” got into it laughing
        1. +27
          10 February 2018 09: 17
          This passage yard, in a strange airspace, has long been covered up.

          Greetings, Andrew! hi Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! good Something I don’t remember, in addition to Russia, someone else was invited there, but everyone flies and everyone has interests: some people are fighting ISIS, others don’t want Iranian bases ... am
          1. +26
            10 February 2018 09: 27
            Quote: Cutter
            ... other Iranian bases do not want ... am

            Good morning sash hi
            So it’s not a question, even if they don’t want Iranian bases, but only on their territory.
            What the hell, in the bonfire of the Syrian civil war, pour your little gasoline.
            ... Since they sowed the wind, they will reap the storm ...

            (Old Testament) Yes
            1. +3
              10 February 2018 09: 33
              [quote] So it’s not a question, even if they don’t want Iranian bases, but only on their territory. [/ quote]
              Yes, the key phrase is "... only on your own ..." Yes
              Can the Old Testament not be read? request
              1. +6
                10 February 2018 09: 39
                ... And the Old Testament can not be read? request...

                Sasha, well, I’m not Israelite laughing
                There is either the Talmud, or the Torah ...
                1. +3
                  10 February 2018 10: 05
                  In general, even if you are “God-chosen” or “untouchable,” remember (!): The S-300 radar (400, and I hope 500 in the future) always “watches” you in the sky.
                  It’s not even Israelis, but rather star-striped ... am
                  1. +9
                    10 February 2018 10: 26
                    ... In general, even if you are “God-chosen” or “untouchable”, remember (!): The S-300 radar always “watches” you in the sky ...

                    Well, something like this Yes
                    We can say it another way: you don’t have to run into it, then nobody will care about the “God's chosen ones”.
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          2. +8
            10 February 2018 10: 10
            Regarding the Iranian bases, Israel can be understood - we will not be delighted when the bases near our borders appear on the nearby ones. And the fact that they covered up visa-free Jews - so they themselves contributed to this.
            1. +11
              10 February 2018 11: 05
              Regarding the Iranian bases, Israel can be understood - we will not be delighted when the bases near our borders appear on the nearby ones.
              That is, following your logic, can you calmly and without a twinge of conscience destroy the bases that we don’t like on the territory that is independent?
              Although, I would not mind at all. Jews can ...
            2. +7
              10 February 2018 11: 19
              Quote: Black Colonel
              Regarding the Iranian bases, Israel can be understood - we will not be delighted when the bases near our borders appear on the nearby ones.

              NATO bases are in the Baltic states. Should we strike a preventive strike at them and consider ourselves right? Let’s beat it, but let’s tell everyone - do we ensure our safety?
              The whole problem is that the sons of Moses do not want to negotiate, they are used to solve from a position of strength and only as chosen by God, without accepting compromises and concessions. Niva what they are not right. And like it or not ... we also don’t like a lot of things.
          3. +1
            10 February 2018 10: 39
            Here are all such marshals, generalissimo ... so answer, if we were invited, weren’t you asked to protect the sky? There are no double standards ... there are demarcation zones, if we were asked not to go there, the Jews agreed with the Turks ... and if you flew somewhere ... it means you can go there, or our country in the place with its commander-in-chief was bent again ... which I doubt very much! Russia in Syria is not for the people freedom and truth, well, we all understand ... the impact on BV ... no more, and that is a lot!
        2. +5
          10 February 2018 11: 25
          Andrey, here I completely agree:
          This passage yard, in a strange airspace, has long been covered up.

          Now, if the LA coalition would have landed in a similar way.
      2. +16
        10 February 2018 10: 39
        The "cutter" from the Israelis was not gloating when a Russian plane was shot down or a Belarusian plane crashed in Poland, or did a cow die in your neighbor's house that anger is stifling?
        1. +24
          10 February 2018 10: 59
          Quote: Lex.
          The "cutter" from the Israelis was not gloating when a Russian plane was shot down or a Belarusian plane crashed in Poland, or did a cow die in your neighbor's house that anger is stifling?

          But I know and do not gloat. The Belarusian plane in Poland was for peaceful purposes. The Russian plane in Syria was at the invitation of the Syrian government. Question: what do your planes do over the territory of Syria ??? Do you want Iranian bases there? According to your logic, we with Russians should bomb the deployed NATO battalion groups in the Baltic countries ??? Well, we do not want them to be there! WHY YOU and your allies CAN, and if we do, we violate the integrity of the state, violating international laws and the foundations of democracy ??????????? belay
          I am glad that the crew is alive. And in general, as for me, this is a warning to your star-striped allies ... Yes
          The neighbor has no cow, I live in the capital ... And there is no malice.
          1. +3
            10 February 2018 11: 13
            No need to bomb, for example, breaking off dip relations with three Baltic republics; a ban on the passage of civilian aircraft through Russian territory; do not send your goods through Baltic ports
            1. +14
              10 February 2018 11: 27
              Quote: Lex.
              No need to bomb, for example, breaking off dip relations with three Baltic republics; a ban on the passage of civilian aircraft through Russian territory; do not send your goods through Baltic ports


              Well, so you forbid Iran to fly over Israel.
              If you bomb someone else's bases in a foreign land - be prepared for losses.
              By the way, I'm glad that the pilot survived. But I think that Israel is not interfering in its war, and not of its own free will.
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 13: 37
                So Iran does not fly
            2. +8
              10 February 2018 11: 28
              Leave the Baltic states. For Ukraine, how? When are RELATIVES destroyed and bent? Level it to zero?
            3. 0
              10 February 2018 11: 36
              Quote: Lex.
              a ban on the passage of civilian aircraft through Russian territory

              And if they continue to fly, you’ll wave your hands “Kysh-kysh !!!” laughing
            4. +7
              10 February 2018 11: 38
              Quote: Lex.
              No need to bomb, for example, breaking off dip relations with three Baltic republics; a ban on the passage of civilian aircraft through Russian territory; do not send your goods through Baltic ports

              So you break off relations and prohibit the passage of civilian aircraft, why bomb?
              My colleague "Monos" remarkably answered you: your crew is alive, think about the fate of those people (perhaps civilians!) Whom your crew "ironed".
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          2. +1
            10 February 2018 13: 10
            Quote: Cutter
            ..And no malice.

            And there is satisfaction from a job well done. wink lol
        2. +17
          10 February 2018 11: 19
          Quote: Lex.
          The "cutter" from the Israelis was not gloating when a Russian plane was shot down or a Belarusian plane crashed in Poland, or did a cow die in your neighbor's house that anger is stifling?

          You know, if (God forbid) the pilot died, the reaction would be different. And since the pilot is alive, we look the other way and think: Are those whom he bombed alive, violating the sovereignty of another country?
        3. +11
          10 February 2018 11: 25
          Quote: Lex.
          of the Israelites no one was gloating when a Russian plane was shot down

          I read Israeli forums periodically and I wouldn’t say that, rather the opposite. As in Turkey, when they shot down 24k, 90% didn’t write with boiling water for joy.
          1. +4
            10 February 2018 14: 48
            Quote: ultra
            I read Israeli forums periodically and I wouldn’t say that, rather the opposite. As in Turkey, when they shot down 24k, 90% didn’t write with boiling water for joy.

            Exactly, there is no need for sympathy for the enemy.
          2. +2
            10 February 2018 17: 45
            Quote: ultra
            I read Israeli forums periodically and I wouldn’t say that, rather the opposite. As in Turkey, when they shot down 24k, 90% didn’t write with boiling water for joy.

            It is true that you come to the same Zman com and in ten minutes of reading the comments, a person will become a convinced anti-Semite!
        4. Maz
          +15
          10 February 2018 11: 36
          Quote: Lex.
          The "cutter" from the Israelis was not gloating when a Russian plane was shot down or a Belarusian plane crashed in Poland, or did a cow die in your neighbor's house that anger is stifling?

          Lex, we said go to you and honestly fight. And you hit in the back of a half-dead neighbor in the region of the capital of the country from behind the back of another neighbor. Is this not the mean villainy? and so again? What did you want ?. Justice she and in Africa justice by retribution. How many times have people been indignant? And you scoffed at impunity. Well you do not fight - you achieve the bound. And no comparison with the death of Filatov does not roll. You still compare the executioner with a soldier - just a hat on Senka.
    3. +29
      10 February 2018 09: 01
      Yes, yes! A kosher plane flew in a strange sky ...
      1. +2
        10 February 2018 10: 41
        In what a stranger, if the Jews want, without support from outside ... they will take the whole BV sky ...! Be realistic!
        1. +7
          10 February 2018 11: 23
          Quote: igorka357
          if the Jews want, without support from outside ... they will take the whole BV sky ...!

          The Russian aerospace forces also control the whole sky there, but this does not mean that it is ours, dear.
        2. Maz
          +1
          10 February 2018 11: 38
          Well do not take?
          1. +8
            10 February 2018 12: 13
            Quote: Maz
            Well do not take?

            laughing Do not want. So they’re direct and say: “I didn’t really want to.”
    4. +3
      10 February 2018 09: 05
      I am sure this is only the beginning ..... The weekend will be "hot".
      1. +2
        10 February 2018 10: 44
        Nichrome will not be ... stupid creature! Absolutely nichrome .... we are a nuclear power, we have the largest lands on the planet ... we will wipe anyone from the face of the earth ... USA 12 times ... We can destroy Britain 64 times. ..Turks we will kill will not even have time to squeak, so what? We killed them for our SU-24 ... so before waving our broomstick ... think with your heap in your skull!
    5. +22
      10 February 2018 09: 06
      Quote: The same Lech
      Go CZ00
      here, some Jews decided that they are immortal and beyond the reach of the Arabs ... as we see, there is a hole in the old woman.

      The answer is not long in coming. The eye doctor will sit in the bunker for a long time like his friend Nasral.

      Quote: Finches
      Yes, yes! A kosher plane flew in a strange sky ...

      In his, dear, in his. Do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner.

      PS

      1. +35
        10 February 2018 09: 16
        But it will not work out as a result of the 2nd Lebanon war of 2006, when the local aborigines monstrously surpassing the forces of Israel consumed them like slops.
        1. +14
          10 February 2018 09: 22
          Quote: Just a human
          But it will not work out as a result of the 2nd Lebanon war of 2006, when the local aborigines monstrously surpassing the forces of Israel consumed them like slops.


          What wild fantasies? laughing
          1. +16
            10 February 2018 09: 29
            Fancy? That is why, according to the results of this shame, the Israeli Minister of Defense A. Peretz appointed a special commission led by the former chief of the IDF General Staff A. Lipkin-Shahak, as a result of which Bosko flew from many "commanders" and politicians. Read more analytical materials, it is worthless to treat an empty head like that.
            1. +17
              10 February 2018 09: 36
              Quote: Just a man
              Fancy? That is why, according to the results of this shame, the Israeli Minister of Defense A. Peretz appointed a special commission led by the former chief of the IDF General Staff A. Lipkin-Shahak, as a result of which Bosko flew from many "commanders" and politicians. Read more analytical materials, it is worthless to treat an empty head like that.

              Our state commission always investigates all our wars, without exception, and always gives everyone a pie. Otherwise how to study?
        2. +8
          10 February 2018 09: 28
          Quote: Just a man
          But it will not work out as a result of the 2 Lebanese war of the 2006 year, when the monstrously superior forces of Israel local aborigines ate like cat slops.

          I have other information about the course and results of that war.

          Quote: Chertt
          Bashar al-Assad has flaws, but even his enemies recognize that he is a brave man

          "Brave Man" when was the last time shown in public? And when was he in his troops? wink

          Quote: siberalt
          It seems that Israel does not comment on this case either. winked And Benya let him scratch his turnips in the Golan recourse

          Already comments. See in my next post.
          But Bibi doesn’t scratch one place. What needs to be done will be done. Do not doubt.
          1. +6
            10 February 2018 09: 39
            and what, states have long stopped trying to remove Assad?
            therefore, it is not shown, for mattresses and your possibilities are greater than his.
            that the CIA that the Mossad are famous for the fact that they can commit high-profile killings.
            even your scientists keen on killing. then what can we say about politicians.
          2. +3
            10 February 2018 12: 34
            Quote: professor
            the outcome of that war

            As a result, a lot of things were written, but the fact that an easy walk did not work out is already a fact.
        3. +3
          10 February 2018 09: 41
          Quote: Just a human
          But it will not work out as a result of the 2nd Lebanon war of 2006, when the local aborigines monstrously surpassing the forces of Israel consumed them like slops.

          It is a difficult question, on the one hand, present-day Israel is better equipped with a head, and on the other, those heroes are no longer in service, and can the new generation cope?
          1. +6
            10 February 2018 09: 50
            and what to cope there?
            in the Air Force they still have the largest raid in the world, in the presence of a large selection of OTR and KR.
            I don’t want to shoot. what do you shoot outside the zone where you can grab the otvetku.
            after a downed plane, Jews simply change tactics; they are not stupid to act like they did before and lose planes. most likely OTR will give priority. they have experience with Iranian Lor.
          2. +1
            10 February 2018 10: 51
            It’s easy, the state is not big .. constantly at war ... and by the way, supporting the ideology of its youth ... I would like such an ally in the BV, my country!
        4. +1
          10 February 2018 10: 49
          Well, what kind of nonsense, where are your adored charred, and where is Israel ... which I really do not like ....? Well ... faintly answer this question, I think do not even answer ..)))
      2. +25
        10 February 2018 09: 18
        Quote: professor
        The eye doctor will sit in the bunker for a long time

        Bashar al-Assad has flaws, but even his enemies recognize that he is a brave man
        Quote: professor
        In his, dear, in his

        It’s doubly unpleasant when planes shot down, as you say, in your sky
        1. 0
          10 February 2018 10: 52
          So what’s bold, because he doesn’t want to give up power, or because he died for his country and people in the forefront?
      3. +23
        10 February 2018 09: 19
        Quote: professor
        The answer is not long in coming. The eye doctor will sit in the bunker for a long time like his friend Nasral.

        Don’t scare Professor, we’ve been frightened more than once .. Just try to rock on Assad, it will not seem enough. We are to blame, we have warned you more than once "do not blame .." They taught you well! fellow
        1. +13
          10 February 2018 09: 54
          Good but not enough.
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        2. +1
          10 February 2018 10: 30
          And that will be? Another warning *
        3. +12
          10 February 2018 10: 38
          The reaction on the site and in Russia to the destruction of the Russian aircraft was adequate. And the Israelis, including on the site, did not jerk or gloat. Our reaction to the destruction of the Israeli aircraft will follow. There is not the slightest doubt. The pilots ejected and survived. Israel has always given and is giving comprehensive data on its losses. This is part of our mentality. Ichtnamet is not about Israel. We celebrate a national holiday on the site in this regard. But the holiday continues. And I am sure that we will return to today's discussion, if not in the coming hours, then the other day. I think so. I repeat: the pilots are alive. And this is the main thing today.
          1. +6
            10 February 2018 10: 50
            Quote: Rogue1812
            We celebrate a national holiday on the site in this regard.

            Yes ... fellow drinks
            Quote: Rogue1812
            And I am sure that we will return to today's discussion, if not in the coming hours, then the other day. I think so. I repeat: the pilots are alive. And this is the main thing today.

            I am also happy for the pilots that survived .. Oh wei, I sincerely!
            Quote: Rogue1812
            Our reaction to the destruction of the Israeli aircraft will follow. There is not the slightest doubt.

            But you shouldn’t threaten .. Keep in mind that Russians are in Syria and are very angry now!
            Want to check it out ..? I would not advise, even if you just judge by the reaction on the site ..
            It would be better if they apologized to Syria before it was too late, for their arrogant bombing of their territory .. That would be the real Oh wei ..!
            1. +3
              10 February 2018 12: 07
              Quote: MIKHAN
              It would be better if they apologized to Syria before it was too late, for their arrogant bombing of their territory

              The professor wrote that they were flying over their territory. What other questions?)))) What apologies when they were from them. That's just the strange concept of their territories with them. The state itself was presented to them in 1957. So now they believe that x has always had it. And other lands that are nearby, consider theirs. But this is in vain. In the words of Captain Blood: Never when dawned on what is too tough for you.
              I don't whitewash Arabs either. Recall the war, when a bunch of Arab countries fell on Israel alone. It was also not very good, not good at all. But this war is long over. And Israel, now, wants to start a new one with its neighbors. That is, to act as the instigator. Maybe it’s time to start already, how to come to an understanding with those with whom you live nearby? Or little spilled blood? It will be difficult to agree with the Arabs, but it is necessary. Otherwise, you will constantly live like on hot coals.
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 13: 17
                Quote: myrzilka
                The professor wrote that they were flying over their territory.

                And from there they launched rockets across Syria, what has changed? They attacked a SOVEREIGN country. Let us say to Pshek, Ukram, Rumaneshtam, Triboltus or someone else and say "we are over our territory!" fellow
                1. 0
                  10 February 2018 13: 28
                  You don’t understand, they consider the territory of Lebanon “their” territory
              2. 0
                10 February 2018 19: 36
                But this war is long over.
                Yes, not over! The fact of the matter is that the world is not made!
          2. +5
            10 February 2018 10: 58
            Quote: Rogue1812
            The reaction on the site and in Russia to the destruction of the Russian aircraft was adequate. And the Israelis, including on the site, did not jerk or gloat. Our reaction to the destruction of the Israeli aircraft will follow. There is not the slightest doubt. The pilots ejected and survived. Israel has always given and is giving comprehensive data on its losses. This is part of our mentality. Ichtnamet is not about Israel. We celebrate a national holiday on the site in this regard. But the holiday continues. And I am sure that we will return to today's discussion, if not in the coming hours, then the other day. I think so. I repeat: the pilots are alive. And this is the main thing today.

            No need to compare the incomparable. You bomb a sovereign country, and we destroy terrorists, moreover, at the invitation of a legitimate government.
            1. +3
              10 February 2018 11: 24
              There has long been no sovereign country. There is territory controlled by various countries and groups. There is an Assad regime that came to power after the death of a daddy who once led a coup d'etat. And the son is illegitimate. It all started like a classic Civil War. Then the other players pulled themselves up. Which groups that do not suit them are called terrorist. And Israel is at war with Syria, now with its remnants. Since 1948, which she began on her own head.
              1. +9
                10 February 2018 11: 56
                and in your opinion sovereign countries are those on the territory of which the US military bases are located and which lick their ass? illigitimen say, well, why are so striped obstinately repeating the assad should leave? ours already agree to the elections in Syria, and if Assad is elected - and he is elected, another confirmation of the legitimacy of his power will be
              2. +8
                10 February 2018 12: 31
                I’m not going to grind, I’ll just give an analogy, maybe you’ll think about your (Israel's) behavior:
                There is an Assad regime that came to power after the death of a daddy who once headed a coup. And the son is illegitimate.

                Is Ukrainian grief-president Poproshenko legitimate? Russia can start bombing tomorrow or scamming missiles at ukrovermaht? Allow?
                And Israel is at war with Syria, now with its remnants. Since 1948, which she began on her own head.

                To this day, Japan and Russia live without signing a peace treaty, in fact we have been at war since 1945, in Japan there are American bases that we don’t really like. You also allow me to start equipping ammunition on our aircraft?
                All your actions in Syria are the beating with the feet of a lying man and it’s correct that that lying man lifted a stick from the ground and slapped the insolents of his kickers.
              3. +2
                10 February 2018 14: 44
                Quote: Rogue1812
                There has long been no sovereign country. There is territory controlled by various countries and groups. There is an Assad regime that came to power after the death of a daddy who once led a coup d'etat. And the son is illegitimate. It all started like a classic Civil War. Then the other players pulled themselves up. Which groups that do not suit them are called terrorist. And Israel is at war with Syria, now with its remnants. Since 1948, which she began on her own head.

                Tramp, so much has been mixed in your head - it’s easier to say that you are blind, deaf and don’t know how to read, but this is not so, you wrote this text somehow.
                Sovereign country - yes, you distort it; in a sovereign country, there is a civil war, as if there wasn’t in yours (as a result of which Judea and Israel were formed). President Assad is illegitimate - and who told you this, your mother? Syria attacked Israel in 1948? Well, it’s generally from the opera Hochm and the clowning — it’s like in the textbook on the history of Israel there are two adjacent photos: they look exactly the same - and here and there the gangs of ragged men with rifles and sabers from the time of the Israeli Independence War, but one gang is solemnly and proudly called Jewish self-defense unit. ; and the second gang - of course, by the Arab gang - double standards, nothing personal.
              4. +6
                10 February 2018 14: 51
                Quote: Rogue1812
                Since 1948, which she began on her own head.

                The Jews started the war - having created states in territories that do not belong to them, everything that has happened in the Middle East since the creation of Israel is the fault of Jews and not Arabs.
          3. +9
            10 February 2018 11: 16
            Quote: Rogue1812
            Ichtnamet is not about Israel. We celebrate a national holiday on the site in this regard.

            Well, about ichtamnet, you are a little deceitful; Israel helped some terrorist groups.
            There is no holiday on the site and by the way, if the pilot fell into the hands of the Syrians, then he could not have worried about the atrocious attitude.
            The lion majority are glad that the pilots are alive but the lion majority do not like that Israel is bombing a country torn by the war against terror by a sowed group of countries and many people do not like the fact that another round of conflict is possible.
            PS.
            Do not pay attention to the "mihanov".
          4. +10
            10 February 2018 12: 06
            Quote: Rogue1812
            I repeat: the pilots are alive. And this is the main thing today.

            You're right. The pilots are alive and that’s good. We cannot know everything that is happening in the sky of Syria.
            I will say more to all forum users who like to fuss at Israelis ... guys, Israel is a country that LEGISLATively approved the celebration of MAY 9 (note not 8, as in Europe) as Victory Day, a public holiday. Moreover, this is their RELIGIOUS holiday.
            Israeli Knesset (Parliament) passed a law on the celebration of May 9 Victory Day over Nazi Germany. The document fixes the status of the holiday, the date of its holding, and also determines the organization of celebrations, RIA Novosti reports.

            Deputies unanimously approved the bill. The Minister of Education, the leader of the Jewish House party, Naftali Bennett, said in Russian that "today is another Victory Day."

            Victory Day is celebrated on May 9 in the territory of the former USSR; in the West, the defeat of Nazi Germany is celebrated a day earlier, on May 8. The agency explains that Israelis celebrate more widely than the “mandatory minimum” prescribed by law, but this tradition is first legally enshrined.

            Among the main provisions of the bill are the allocation of teaching hours in schools and military units to study the theme of Victory, the allocation of funds to local authorities to work to perpetuate the memory of it. The law also prescribes celebrating May 9 with a procession in Jerusalem, a solemn meeting of the parliament and a ceremony along the line of the government.

            In May 2016, the Moscow Jewish Religious Community and the Conference of European Rabbis supported the idea of ​​celebrating Victory Day as a Jewish religious holiday on the day of 26 iyar. On this date, the Jewish calendar fell on May 9, 1945. Victory Day is included in the Jewish calendar as a full-fledged Jewish holiday called Day of Liberation and Salvation.
      4. +5
        10 February 2018 09: 25
        Quote: professor
        In his, dear, in his.

        They "bullet" from Lebanese airspace
      5. +6
        10 February 2018 09: 29
        So what if we assume that the Jewish F-16 itself collapsed in its skies, then it turns out that either the Jews are very mediocre pilots or their planes are far from the first freshness.
        1. +13
          10 February 2018 09: 34
          Quote: sgrabik
          So what if we assume that the Jewish F-16 itself collapsed in its skies, then it turns out that either the Jews are very mediocre pilots or their planes are far from the first freshness.

          And your planes in Russia are not fighting "Either the Russians are very mediocre pilots, or are your planes far from the first freshness? fool
          1. +2
            10 February 2018 10: 23
            Well yes. Our planes are falling very rarely and most often junk. And we have a different climate. Tougher.
            1. +5
              10 February 2018 10: 29
              Quote: Muvka
              Well yes. Our planes are falling very rarely and most often junk. And we have a different climate. Tougher.

              Immediately visible "professional." What, what is your accident rate? And how is it measured? Do you even know?
              What about climate in Canada? And in Alaska? wink

              Quote: Graz
              Yes, we know your excuses, then the bird flew into the engine for something else, and what do you want you are actually fighting in the territory of a foreign country with its legal authorities, and you think that in your right, well, then others in your right to to you

              But nothing that we are at war with this country after it attacked us?
              1. +4
                10 February 2018 10: 59
                Does Canada have an air force? And what is their raid?
                He looked. This is the Air Force. All the Air Force.
                According to 2013 data, the Royal Canadian Air Force operates 258 manned aircraft and 9 UAVs.
              2. +1
                10 February 2018 12: 19
                Quote: professor
                But nothing that we are at war with this country after it attacked us?

                attacked whom? artificially created state from the territory of other countries. if cancer appears in your body, will you fight it?
                about the recognition of the ussr of Israel-I would not have been led to such a divorce.
          2. +12
            10 February 2018 10: 23
            Well, it’s clear here - the country is a gas station, crooks and thieves, everything is rusty.
            And here you have the bright elves, the hope of all mankind.
            And suddenly this.
            Everyone thought you were invincible, but it turns out not.
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          3. +7
            10 February 2018 10: 25
            Yes, we know your excuses, then the bird flew into the engine for something else, and what do you want you are actually fighting in the territory of a foreign country with its legal authorities, and you think that in your right, well, then others in your right to to you
          4. +5
            10 February 2018 11: 17
            They are falling here, they are falling among you, and in the USA they are falling, and in Britain ... and those who speak and boast about it .. just morons!
          5. +4
            10 February 2018 11: 48
            Quote: professor
            And your planes in Russia are not fighting "Either the Russians are very mediocre pilots, or are your planes far from the first freshness?

            Why are you so upset, dear? If your pilots flew where the Russians fly, you would have no aviation left in six months. Everyone knows about your fluffiness and cunning in relation to air strikes. And do not equal your military prowess with the Russian. Try to prove it in practice. What and to whom is Syria to blame for the fact that everyone who is not too lazy to bend their backs before the USA is "hollowed" over its territory and on it? Do you fulfill the order or do you have such a mentality? belay Or diction? lol Received, but not enough. Our country is weak in economic terms. It cannot, as in Soviet times, stamp weapons, and so you use it. While there is an opportunity - go for it! And blame the birds ...
      6. +8
        10 February 2018 09: 37
        "In his, dear, in his. Do not read the Soviet newspapers before dinner."
        All the more shameful is the fact of the loss of a Jewish plane,
        yes not the last will be
        1. +11
          10 February 2018 09: 46
          Quote: trump
          "In his, dear, in his. Do not read the Soviet newspapers before dinner."
          All the more shameful is the fact of the loss of a Jewish plane,
          yes not the last will be

          Do Russia have planes on their territory? F-16 fell 70 km from the Syrian border. On one wing or on one engine? Either the F-16 is a very reliable aircraft, or the Syrian missiles are very weak.

          Quote: just explo
          that is, you came to a strange house to destroy it, and as the owner gave back, is he subject to death for this?

          For the fact that now his army fired at Majal Shams, his shock drone penetrated our territory. Few?

          Quote: just explo
          and you are not fucking there at all? on our television one of yours began to spit in memory of our pilot. but as he was voiced for it, he began to vote about anti-Semitism.

          So give him in the face or answer his uncomfortable questions.

          Quote: just explo
          I have more and more often thought that the Jewish pogroms in all countries were not because of anti-Semites, but because of the actions and arrogance of the Jews.

          I have no doubt in your decency. I am sure that you are even considering taking part in the pogroms, if possible.
          1. +7
            10 February 2018 09: 53
            As for the pogroms, is this an invitation?
            1. +3
              10 February 2018 10: 07
              Quote: Pereira
              As for the pogroms, is this an invitation?

              THIS IS A PROVOCATION ! Careful men, prof is very angry and will "beat out" the forum users in every possible way (scribble complaints ..))) I studied tactics for a long time .. hehe
              1. +4
                10 February 2018 10: 12
                He, it seems, had already promised to hand me over to the FSB. For supporting terrorism and claiming that Palestinians exist.
                1. +3
                  10 February 2018 10: 54
                  Quote: Pereira
                  He, it seems, had already promised to hand me over to the FSB. For supporting terrorism and claiming that Palestinians exist.

                  Of course he’s lying, but he’s scribbling complaints like a machine gun .. His tactics have long been known, the CIA is working for Mossad too! bully (joke of course)))
              2. +1
                10 February 2018 10: 12
                prof is very angry and will in every way "knock out" the members of the forum now (scribble complaints ..)))


                belay
                Professor isn't it? what
          2. +11
            10 February 2018 10: 05
            I am sure that you are even considering taking part in the pogroms, if possible.

            Yes, you are a typical representative of the vile insides of your nation, you crap quietly, and then "what for us?"
          3. +5
            10 February 2018 10: 27
            No, of course you are. We here in Russia mainly politely answer the uncomfortable questions of every Russophobic Hari. But sometimes it breaks through us, polite and philanthropic people.
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            1. +1
              10 February 2018 10: 54
              Quote: wkd dvk
              another "democrat" chopped down Orthodox Icons with an ax,.

              Just for fun: why did you write “Orthodox icons” in capital letters? From great knowledge?
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              2. +1
                10 February 2018 17: 46
                Quote: bane jacket
                Quote: wkd dvk
                another "democrat" chopped down Orthodox Icons with an ax,.

                Just for fun: why did you write “Orthodox icons” in capital letters? From great knowledge?

                From a lot of respect. That's all. Now, if I urinated on the Wailing Wall, you would ask me why I am capitalized .... Or did you notice the main thing-an insult to the Shrine?
                1. 0
                  10 February 2018 19: 39
                  Quote: wkd dvk
                  Quote: bane jacket
                  Quote: wkd dvk
                  another "democrat" chopped down Orthodox Icons with an ax,.

                  Just for fun: why did you write “Orthodox icons” in capital letters? From great knowledge?

                  From a lot of respect. That's all.

                  I doubt that you have a little bit of knowledge in these very icons ... well, it's not about that. Write then a capsule, and it will be clear to everyone that your respect is unlimited.

                  Quote: wkd dvk
                  Now, if I urinated on the Wailing Wall, you would ask me why I am capitalized .... Or did you notice the main thing-an insult to the Shrine?

                  I would understand that you. [moderation did not miss this word]
                  I dare not pester you with stupid questions anymore. Farewell.
                  1. 0
                    10 February 2018 20: 11
                    Quote: bane jacket
                    Quote: wkd dvk
                    Quote: bane jacket
                    Quote: wkd dvk
                    another "democrat" chopped down Orthodox Icons with an ax,.

                    Just for fun: why did you write “Orthodox icons” in capital letters? From great knowledge?

                    From a lot of respect. That's all.

                    I doubt that you have a little bit of knowledge in these very icons ... well, it's not about that. Write then a capsule, and it will be clear to everyone that your respect is unlimited.

                    Quote: wkd dvk
                    Now, if I urinated on the Wailing Wall, you would ask me why I am capitalized .... Or did you notice the main thing-an insult to the Shrine?

                    I would understand that you. [moderation did not miss this word]
                    I dare not pester you with stupid questions anymore. Farewell.

                    Hurt? So to teach you [moderation did not miss this word].
          5. +2
            10 February 2018 11: 02
            F-16 fell 70 km from the Syrian border. On one wing or on one engine? Either the F-16 is a very reliable aircraft, or the Syrian missiles are very weak.

            Do you know that a rocket could fly after an airplane? That she didn’t have to knock him out at the border. I’ll tell you a secret - a rocket, not a laser. She doesn’t have such a high speed.
          6. +1
            10 February 2018 11: 20
            Professor ... I don’t love you very much, and the Israelites too, don’t make me even more hostile, don’t be like myself ... Kam ... don’t respond to the provocations of idiots!
          7. +2
            10 February 2018 11: 24
            Quote: professor
            On one wing or on one engine?

            The F-16 has one engine initially. The pilot is alive, no one was killed, and thank God Israel is not a poor country will buy more aircraft.
            Would not fly to Syria would not be shot down.
          8. SOF
            +6
            10 February 2018 12: 25
            ... because of what a hysteria, actually?
            Knocked down your bird? Well it happens. According to the theory of the one that you have on the profile picture, this definitely should have happened. The pilot is alive and thank God. And your little bird was not wearing an olive branch in its beak. What did you want? So that the Syrians, like any patience, calmly watched as you plow their territory with TNT, over and over again?
            What didn’t you like on their land? Are Iranian, but Hezbollah bases? I can understand this, but then the question arises: why didn’t the Nusrovites and Igiloid bases bother you until their Syrians pinned them to the wall?
            You have a strange understanding about terrorists .....
            "The answer will arrive ... the answer will arrive" But it will take and it turns out that the MANPADS for drying was yours ... and that this is our answer ...
            What then? Fly to Moscow ???
            1. 0
              10 February 2018 13: 03
              Quote: SOF
              Knocked down your bird?

              If you turn to me then this is not our bird, I am a Belarusian and we Belarusians live peacefully with our neighbors.
              Quote: SOF
              According to the theory of the one on your profile picture

              I have on my avatar the emblem of the US spacecraft Zuma which could not separate from the second stage of the rocket.
              1. SOF
                +2
                10 February 2018 13: 15
                Saturn.mmm
                ... not to you, sorry, I did not insert a quote.
                ... the mobile interface of the site is not very convenient.
                To the esteemed Professor.
              2. +2
                10 February 2018 15: 03
                Quote: saturn.mmm
                I am Belarusian and we Belarusians live peacefully with our neighbors.

                This is because you do not have oil and to all to pump up the degree of your democracy.
            2. +4
              10 February 2018 13: 30
              Quote: SOF
              because of what hysteria, actually?

              We have no hysteria. Everyday business. The plane crashed. The result is not a bad result for the number of sorties that our Air Intergalactic Forces make. Who needs to draw conclusions and will bomb even more effectively. They will use ground-to-ground missiles and other gravitational arms. The main thing is that our security is not a compromise.

              And your hysteria was bred. How many snot of joy ... already for 500 comments. Go to the thread about your downed “Rook” and look at what my compatriots write there, and now compare with what yours write here. Not ashamed of their own? Pogroms threaten ... Well, well. Last year, the number of returnees from Russia was greater than from any other country. not surprising however.
              1. +4
                10 February 2018 14: 23
                Our bombed terrorists, your without a declaration of war flew into someone else's territory. So he is also a terrorist and your compatriots understand this very well. Hence such comments from both sides.
                And further.
                I am glad for the repatriates and for myself. The fifth column in Russia has thinned. Madame Sobakina and Sisyan in mourning.
                1. +1
                  10 February 2018 14: 26
                  But nothing that he also bombed terrorists.
                  1. +3
                    10 February 2018 16: 05
                    No, he didn’t bomb the terrorists. Terrorists are in very different places. Otherwise, Syrian air defense would not have been shot at him, but on the contrary covered.
              2. SOF
                +3
                10 February 2018 17: 23
                Quote: professor
                Not ashamed of their own?

                ... ashamed, no speech. Pogroms - bullshit - this is not about us, and you know it no worse than me. As you boil down, they themselves will understand that they said too much.
                If the pilot died, the "snot of joy" would be many times less, and you know that too.
                Yes, only the majority has boiled. Like a rook was shot down - there are no perpetrators - some kind of ephemeral terrorists, behind whom there are ears of a different-wagon car and a small cart, and then you ....... with your concerns about no less ephemeral someone’s bases. And most importantly, where and by whom ...?
                There Where are we pounding dams who is with us diving pounding.
                What other reactions did you expect to see from the Russians after the earth, in Voronezh, over the Hero of Russia .... has not even frozen yet ......
      7. +32
        10 February 2018 09: 37
        and why Assad to kill? for daring to surrender?
        that is, you came to a strange house to destroy it, and as the owner gave back, is he subject to death for this?
        and you are not fucking there at all? on our television one of yours began to spit in memory of our pilot. but as he was voiced for it, he began to vote about anti-Semitism.
        I have more and more often thought that the Jewish pogroms in all countries were not because of anti-Semites, but because of the actions and arrogance of the Jews.
        1. +7
          10 February 2018 09: 53
          Quote: just explo
          and why Assad to kill? for daring to surrender?


          And why not?
          He would be happy to destroy Israel
          He and his dad dreamed of doing this for decades.


          Quote: just explo
          that is, you came to a strange house to destroy it, and as the owner gave back, is he subject to death for this?


          In a strange house, there are terrorists whom the owner has sheltered.
          The owner has been warned many times - you will help terrorists, you will answer.




          Quote: just explo
          and you are not fucking there at all? on our television one of yours began to spit in memory of our pilot. but as he was voiced for it, he began to vote about anti-Semitism.


          You are this paid expert who is specially hired and paid by the studio to pretend to be a bad American, and his guests scolded him so that the audience would enjoy the fact that they give the Americans at least somewhere. This circus, which is being played on TV, evokes sympathy at the same time, since the audience does not understand what is being led by the nose.



          Quote: just explo
          I have more and more often thought that the Jewish pogroms in all countries were not because of anti-Semites, but because of the actions and arrogance of the Jews.


          So the Russian media are doing their job.
          1. +18
            10 February 2018 10: 09
            And why not?
            He would be happy to destroy Israel

            You are also happy to destroy Syria, only yours not only want it, but they do it. can then destroy you? because you yourself wrote "why not?"
            In a strange house, there are terrorists whom the owner has sheltered.
            The owner has been warned many times - you will help terrorists, you will answer.

            false, the Ishilovites were hiding not in Syria, but in Israel.
            and yes, it is necessary that Israel would answer for the igil. but alas, Israel is stronger than Syria, and therefore the nest of terrorists will go unpunished.
            You are this paid expert who is specially hired and paid by the studio to pretend to be a bad American, and his guests scolded him so that the audience would enjoy the fact that they give the Americans at least somewhere. This circus, which is being played on TV, evokes sympathy at the same time, since the audience does not understand what is being led by the nose.

            here it’s not necessary la la, it’s your citizen (not yours personally, but yours, in the sense of a pro-Western Jew, which by the way are many in Russia), and Soloviev would not have kicked him out if Nikon hadn’t "hinted" at all. it was purely his pearl and its actions. and all the directing you hope for concerns only the fact that Solovyov invites them one at a time to two characters, and they are crushed by the crowd (yes the show has its own script and plot, but the "actors" there "play" sincerely) but no one writes the lyrics to them, and all the morons in life are pro-Westerners. otherwise Gozman and Sytin will listen to you hidden Putininoids.
            So the Russian media are doing their job.

            it’s not a matter of the media at all, I read a lot of material, including from the history, and you won’t believe it, not in newspapers or on TV.
            and I read a little, what from the books of Jewish authors about how the Jews behaved on the eve of the pogrom in Bessarabia, for which the Poles did not like the Jews and why they were killed harder than the Germans (I condemn the Poles, no matter how much you love someone, it’s not it is permissible to kill, kill only if the killed killed one of yours, and this is revenge, but for negative behavior or deceit, you can simply give in person, but not kill).
            I know who Zemlyachka (Zalkind) is and who Bronstein is, and how much blood they shed of non-Jews, and I know their "love" for the Slavs.
            and there are a lot of such characters, well, very much (if we start digging out the composition and actions of the BUND, then there will be so many things).
            but the sad truth of life is that fanatics do all the bad things, and all this affects ordinary people. and besides Zalkind and Bronstein there were also Jofe and a long list of Jewish heroes of the Soviet Union.
            but Israel’s actions increasingly evoke memories of the former.
            1. +2
              10 February 2018 10: 24
              Quote: just EXPL

              You are this paid expert who is specially hired and paid by the studio to pretend to be a bad American, and his guests scolded him so that the audience would enjoy the fact that they give the Americans at least somewhere. This circus, which is being played on TV, evokes sympathy at the same time, since the audience does not understand what is being led by the nose.

              here it is not necessary la la, this is your citizen

              This is a former Soviet citizen who moved to the USA a long time ago, opened a travel agency there and sold tickets until recently, because he was forced to leave the states because there he is accused of fraud. These “permissions” to say “experts” (like Michael Bohm, who had never worked in the USA as a journalist, but was a regular insurance agent) are very fond of inviting to Russian television for a clear “whipping”. And why wonder if they love to refer to National Interest here?
              Greg Weiner, aka Grigory Vinnikov An American political expert in Channel One talk shows turned out to be a Russian travel agent accused of fraud in New York

              https://meduza.io/feature/2017/04/27/greg-vayner-
              on-zhe-grigoriy-vinnikov
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 10: 49
                the fact that such characters are taken on the show, I know, as I imagine what Bom is.
                but here it was about the impudence of some characters, which they cover up with their nationality. and this is still not an isolated case.
                and so on the same show was the NATO official, and on a teleconference contacted Cohen (also say that no one knows about him?) and others.
                that is, there are standing Westerners on the show, as well as frank clowns.
              2. SOF
                +1
                10 February 2018 12: 15
                Quote: bane's jacket
                These are, so to speak, experts

                ... the worst thing is when they say not the truth, but only its half, thinking up the rest for themselves to please.
                Why didn’t you list Kedmi, Cohen, Simes on the invite list ???
                Because they are not clowns and do not fit into your "script"?
            2. +1
              10 February 2018 11: 22
              "and I read a little, moreover, from the books of Jewish authors about how the Jews behaved on the eve of the pogrom in Bessarabia, for which the Poles did not like the Jews and why they were killed harder than the Germans."


              And where did the Poles of the Jews kill? In the "Polish concentration camps" probably after 1939?
              And how can you kill Jews harder than the Germans? The sheer number of Jews killed by the Germans shows unsurpassed "cruelty"

              By the way, German Foreign Minister recently confirmed that only Germans are to blame for the Holocaust

              ps - you are carrying something superfluous on this topic, although you reasonably reason differently on other issues
              1. +3
                10 February 2018 13: 53
                read the story, in the Baltic states, Poland and Galicia, the local population after the entry of German troops staged Jewish pogroms, slaughtered Jews, and in a harsh way.
                and only then those who survived were given to the Germans.
                this is a fact, and this is not a secret fact, although they try not to touch it, and the Germans simply took all the blame on themselves, because they are already completely to blame.
        2. 0
          10 February 2018 11: 21
          Killing "POSSIBLE" and not at all, but to heroize him for being saved by the Russian Aerospace Forces is also not worth it!
        3. +2
          10 February 2018 11: 27
          Quote: just explo
          I have more and more often thought that the Jewish pogroms in all countries were not because of anti-Semites, but because of the actions and arrogance of the Jews.

          There is no smoke without fire.
      8. +5
        10 February 2018 09: 52
        In his, dear, in his.


        It doesn't matter in which sky. The main thing - flew off.
        With the initiative of the Syrians. Do not stop there.
        1. +1
          10 February 2018 11: 24
          Who flew away, Roman phillipov, our warrior who died, the hero ... who fulfilled the order to the end, remained a hero in our hearts forever, or Benjamin Rabinovich, the hero of the Irael people, who carried out the order to the end, and who did not betray his state to Israel? .. from what point of view, let's see, comrade patriot, only from ours, or from both?
          1. +2
            10 February 2018 14: 19
            The corpse of the enemy smells good (ce).
      9. +7
        10 February 2018 09: 59
        Quote: professor

        The answer is not long in coming. The eye doctor will sit in the bunker for a long time like his friend Nasral.

        Answer WHAT? For protecting YOUR airspace? And why the "eye doctor"? It’s somehow not entirely ethical, and even more so not “politically correct”!
        Reminds "show off" of the gopnik. Create a flock with "colleagues"? If the Syrian President doesn’t pay you for the “roof” and the business simply doesn’t want to give back, will you find a “reason”, attack and take away the “business”?
        Something you just won’t be able to defeat the Arabs, can someone still use you as a “torpedo”?
      10. +2
        10 February 2018 10: 01
        In his, dear, in his

        Yes, really began to observe the airspace of Lebanon?
        1. +3
          10 February 2018 10: 21
          Quote: kos2910
          In his, dear, in his

          Yes, really began to observe the airspace of Lebanon?

          Are you Lebanese? Did you see Israeli planes flying over you?
          1. +4
            10 February 2018 11: 31
            Quote: professor
            Quote: kos2910
            In his, dear, in his

            Yes, really began to observe the airspace of Lebanon?

            Are you Lebanese? Did you see Israeli planes flying over you?


            No, not Lebanese. Saw - in a coffin and in white slippers.
      11. +4
        10 February 2018 10: 23
        Quote: professor
        In his, dear, in his. Do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner.

        Enough gossip! ... what Soviet newspapers? belay and since when did Lebanon become its heaven for the Jews?
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      13. +2
        10 February 2018 10: 46
        I welcome the professor ... I don’t love you very much, but I’m very glad to see you ... however! On the site you rarely meet literate people .... boredom on the site has become!
      14. +3
        10 February 2018 10: 57
        somewhere at half past seven in the morning two strong explosions were heard,
      15. +5
        10 February 2018 11: 08
        In his, dear, in his.
        In the sky it may be in its own way, but rockets then flew to someone else's territory from "their own sky". Now, if we were to beat you with “Caliber” or “Iskander” - would it be completely legal? We, from our heavens or our earth, have struck you. What is your inverted logic. Jewish, what do you want ....
      16. +4
        10 February 2018 11: 18
        You still say that the objects of Syria were bombed on the territory of Israel ... Enough to build yourself white and fluffy, and all of you fall in the blood ... Syrian government troops are not at war with you, and now you are playing for the ISIS team and other devils more than sure not of their own volition ...

        Syria will recover and guess whose air defense system it will buy ?! And your villainy there will be remembered for a long time ...
      17. 0
        10 February 2018 11: 30
        Quote: professor
        In his, dear, in his. Do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner.



        In his own way, he fell ... Begin to read already, at least be nothing but your state propaganda.
      18. Maz
        +1
        10 February 2018 11: 39
        Beautiful view.
      19. +1
        10 February 2018 11: 53
        Quote: professor
        In his, dear, in his. Do not read Soviet newspapers before lunch

        So the Israelis long ago got used to attack targets in Syria without entering its airspace. And, you probably don’t know what is the range of air-to-ground missiles ... I’ll say with a template - learn the materiel.
        And for some reason you are surprised that the answer has arrived?
      20. +4
        10 February 2018 12: 28
        Quote: professor
        Eye doctor

        This?
      21. Ber
        +5
        10 February 2018 13: 33
        In his, dear, in his. Do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner.


        1. If it weren’t for the Soviet Union, then such a people as Jews would not exist by 1945.

        2. If not for the Soviet Union, then after 1945 such a state as Israel would not have existed.

        Who is who, but shitting the Jews on the history of the USSR is like spitting in a well from which they used to drink water, for Soviet ideology is internationalism.

        Until 1917, under the law of settledness for Jews in the Russian Empire.
        Jews were forbidden throughout the territory of Great Russia (RSFSR now RF), allowed to live only in villages in the territory of Little Russia (Ukraine) and Belarus.
        In cities it was allowed to live only on the territory of Poland, and, it seems, Finland.

        The Soviet Union made it possible for Jews to live throughout the entire country of the USSR, the Soviet Union from 1941-1945 saved the Jewish people from total extermination, and directly with the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition participated in the creation of the state of Israel, namely Comrade personally. Stalin.

        prof .... but you can’t be ungrateful s..uu .y that's why this is the attitude towards you here.
      22. +2
        10 February 2018 13: 38
        Quote: professor
        In his, dear, in his.

        In his own way, he kicked himself. Already he had time to get away, and he “flew” - in a stranger.
      23. +1
        11 February 2018 11: 01
        Prof, you know the joke - "The enemy insidiously fired on our planes while we peacefully bombed his cities!"? I read you and realized that this is not a joke)
        And according to sabzh - you yourself have repeatedly said that Israel and Syria are at war. Well, if so - so are you offended that during the war one of your targets was shot? )
    6. 0
      10 February 2018 09: 21
      It seems that Israel does not comment on this case either. winked And Benya let him scratch his turnips in the Golan recourse
    7. +15
      10 February 2018 09: 21
      “Some Jews” is a fundamentally incorrect formulation, politics and people are not interconnected. I am not a Jew, but I am tying up ethnic hatred to nationalism! I communicate with the Jews and say that these are very good people and it’s not a nation!
      1. +25
        10 February 2018 09: 33
        Not a Jew (- I doubt this however-) should know that these good people have a double morality - one for their Jewish fellow tribesmen, and another for the Goyim - and what is there to wonder at the growing anti-Semitism always and everywhere on the globe
      2. +8
        10 February 2018 09: 39
        The pilots are alive and well, but the next plane seems to be in the queue, I did not believe it.
      3. +2
        10 February 2018 10: 14
        Quote: COJIDAT
        “Some Jews” is a fundamentally incorrect formulation, politics and people are not interconnected. I am not a Jew, but I am tying up ethnic hatred to nationalism! I communicate with the Jews and say that these are very good people and it’s not a nation!

        Yes, you quit!
        For some reason, in matters related to the image of the so-called. "small nations" the question of "ethnic hatred" constantly arises, with the subsequent transition to Nazism, nationalism, etc. They created the concept of "immunity of a small people" and take advantage of the fact that "COJIDAT - the child will not offend"!
        And so - We are all normal men, if our interests are not concerned!
    8. +2
      10 February 2018 10: 20
      All sorts of Jews there is nothing there is no unforgettable Jews and not Israelis, there are pilots and Druze
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 13: 08
        Crap of course
        Quote: Lex.
        there are no Jews there are no unforgettable Jews and not Israelis, there are pilots and Druze

        but when, under certain circumstances, you step on a rake it hurts will be for sure!
    9. Maz
      +1
      10 February 2018 11: 08
      We reached it. Now, as I understand it, the next one will be demolished along with the pilot.
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    12. Maz
      +2
      10 February 2018 11: 52
      Are Israeli media outraged?
      09:35 10/02 One of the pilots of a downed military aircraft F-16 seriously injured; IDF: “a flagrant violation of Israeli sovereignty”
      09:50 10/02 Office of the Minister of Defense: Minister Lieberman is at the headquarters of the Ministry of Defense, receives operational information and consults
      09:57 10/02 The Prime Minister is sent to the headquarters of the Ministry of Defense in Tel Aviv for an emergency meeting
      10:34 10/02 Military observer Alon Ben-David: at these moments the IDF air forces are attacking the Syrian air defense systems, strikes were carried out on 12 installations

      On Saturday night, before dawn, an Israeli F-16 military aircraft was shot down by the Syrian air defense system and crashed to the ground near Kibbutz Harduf. According to the IDF press service, the pilots ejected and survived, one of them in serious condition.

      The downed plane was attacked by the Syrians during a combat mission in Syria. According to the IDF’s press service, the Air Force retaliated after Iranian UAVs entered Israeli airspace. The drone was shot down by a military helicopter - reportedly in the Beit Shean Valley region, not far from the kibbutz Harduf.

      Early in the morning in the Golan, in the Upper Galilee and in the Beit Shean region, siren of a missile alarm sounded.
      https://news.israelinfo.co.il/events/70672
      That is, the plane was shot down during a combat mission in Syria, but at the same time violated Israel’s sovereignty grossly? Is that so?
      Offended, we will see. What will end.
    13. +8
      10 February 2018 11: 56
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      here, some Jews decided that they are immortal and beyond the reach of the Arabs ... as we see, there is a hole in the old woman.

      I once said that the day will come when the Syrian air defense will stick the Israeli fighter into the ground. And this day has come. I suppose there will be more ...
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        1. +10
          10 February 2018 12: 08
          Quote: Hanokem
          Nexus, I don’t want to upset you, but it seems that the Syrian air defense no longer exists ...

          Che, seriously? wassat What a pity. wassat And the Israelis hto shot down? UFO? laughing
          1. +3
            10 February 2018 15: 11
            Quote: NEXUS
            And the Israelis hto shot down? UFO?

            Air conditioner exploded
      2. +1
        11 February 2018 20: 40
        Quote: NEXUS
        I once said that the day will come when the Syrian air defense will stick the Israeli fighter into the ground. And this day has come. I suppose there will be more ...

        I see no reason not to drink for it fellow drinks
    14. 0
      10 February 2018 12: 12
      Quote: The same Lech
      Go CZ00
      here, some Jews decided that they are immortal and beyond the reach of the Arabs ... as we see, there is a hole in the old woman.

      And what about SAR air defense have S-300 air defense systems?
    15. +3
      10 February 2018 12: 21
      Finally, Israel was stuck in the teeth, or it was completely insolent.
    16. 0
      10 February 2018 17: 57
      So then for the Arabs. But no one promised that only they would be.
  2. +22
    10 February 2018 08: 58
    Well, now the groan of the “God-chosen” will begin ... and on the backing vocals there is a scapia, Yiddish remnants ...
    1. +8
      10 February 2018 09: 34
      The pilots are not to blame, this is the plane to blame, it’s easy to fly where it is not necessary and let the mission filter for the future.
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 13: 11
        Quote: ul_vitalii
        The pilots are not to blame, this is the plane to blame, it’s easy to fly where it is not necessary and let the mission filter for the future.

        Aircraft they for that MYSELF YEARS that YOU ARE FLYING.
    2. 0
      10 February 2018 11: 27
      Why groan, they just scratch the floor of Syria, and we express concern ...!
  3. +5
    10 February 2018 08: 58
    It is high time to snap back, or else they will fly with impunity.
    1. +8
      10 February 2018 09: 01
      Do not snarl ... you need to beat first
      1. +10
        10 February 2018 09: 03
        Quote: Semyonitch
        Do not snarl ... you need to beat first

        yeah, then the IDF will be in Damascus in a day
        1. +4
          10 February 2018 09: 49
          Quote: Tlauicol
          Quote: Semyonitch
          Do not snarl ... you need to beat first

          yeah, then the IDF will be in Damascus in a day

          Will not. We also lacked the Syrians to feed.
          1. +7
            10 February 2018 10: 17
            Who are you feeding now?
          2. +5
            10 February 2018 10: 25
            Quote: professor
            We also lacked the Syrians to feed.

            still? wassat and whom do you already feed? ..... I'm sorry, but it seems to me that it is you (the Jews) who feed the whole world ..... Germans and Americans ....
            1. +1
              10 February 2018 10: 31
              Quote: Burbon
              Quote: professor
              We also lacked the Syrians to feed.

              still? wassat and whom do you already feed? ..... I'm sorry, but to me it seems that it is you (Jews) who feed the whole world ..... Germans, Americans ....

              Of course, you have numbers or you onlyit seems"? But I have numbers, how do we feed the Fylyst people.”
              1. +7
                10 February 2018 10: 34
                Quote: professor
                But I have numbers, how do we feed the people of the Fylystyns.

                what for? do you feed the Palestinians? ...... return the land and you won’t have to feed right away? .... or am I wrong? .... the Germans are feeding you .... or am I confusing ?? .... for what they tried to exterminate you ... the question is - when you tell them - that's enough, enough .... we forgave you ...
                1. +2
                  10 February 2018 10: 43
                  Quote: Burbon
                  Quote: professor
                  But I have numbers, how do we feed the people of the Fylystyns.

                  what for? do you feed the Palestinians? ...... return the land and you won’t have to feed right away? .... or am I wrong? .... the Germans are feeding you .... or am I confusing ?? .... for what they tried to exterminate you ... the question is - when you tell them - that's enough, enough .... we forgave you ...

                  You are not at all in the subject. Find at least one of our soldiers in Gaza and then continue the conversation.
                  1. +6
                    10 February 2018 10: 49
                    Quote: professor
                    You are not at all in the subject. Find at least one of our soldiers in Gaza and then continue the conversation.

                    find ours in the Donbass ... you did say that ... I remember ....
                    1. +2
                      10 February 2018 13: 15
                      Quote: Burbon
                      find ours in the Donbass ... you did say that ... I remember ....

                      Bravo!
                      The professor will not answer you! They have a rush! Cannot be promoted!
                      By the way, the impression was that the "professor" answers only convenient questions. Inconvenient — bypasses!
                    2. +1
                      10 February 2018 13: 32
                      Quote: Burbon
                      find ours in the Donbass ... you did say that ... I remember ...

                      There will be a topic about the Donbass - let's talk, but for the time being, please do not turn the arrows and show us Tsakhal in the gas or the statement of the Fylistins that ours are in Gaza. Merged?
                      1. +1
                        10 February 2018 14: 03
                        Professor,

                        Quote: professor
                        We are still treating everyone who needs medical care.

                        can you cure me and my father, a prisoner of (juvenile) fascist concentration camps? ... naturally for free?
              2. Maz
                +1
                10 February 2018 11: 40
                So supposed to feed them by law. Cancel the law and do not feed. What is the problem?
          3. +1
            10 February 2018 10: 40
            Quote: professor
            We also lacked the Syrians to feed.

            belay everything ... in my eyes the world turned upside down sad he will never be the same again!
          4. +2
            10 February 2018 11: 32
            Quote: professor
            Quote: Tlauicol
            Quote: Semyonitch
            Do not snarl ... you need to beat first

            yeah, then the IDF will be in Damascus in a day

            Will not. We also lacked the Syrians to feed.


            Feed the terrorists, but could ordinary Syrians ...
        2. +2
          10 February 2018 10: 32
          Quote: Tlauicol
          Quote: Semyonitch
          Do not snarl ... you need to beat first

          yeah, then the IDF will be in Damascus in a day

          little hatred, there will be even more forward
  4. +12
    10 February 2018 09: 02
    If the Syrians actually shot down, then there will soon be a very strong blow to Syria.

    Although a little mitigates the situation that the pilots survived.
    1. +6
      10 February 2018 09: 04
      Well, they will also lose a few cars. Apparently, air defense appeared in Syria.
      1. +5
        10 February 2018 09: 09
        Quote: Muvka
        Well, they will also lose a few cars. Apparently, air defense appeared in Syria.


        This will already be visible.
        Moreover, if desired, Israel can also strike Syria very hard from the ground.
        1. +1
          10 February 2018 10: 34
          Moreover, if desired, Israel can also strike Syria very hard from the ground.

          What do you think, Syria cannot have its similar means?
      2. 0
        10 February 2018 10: 48
        Most likely the Syrians will lose their air defense.
    2. +12
      10 February 2018 09: 07
      If the Syrians were shot down, then they had every right if he carried strikes on their territory. The retaliatory strike after so many years of war doesn’t scare anyone there. I wonder what landed from?
      1. +6
        10 February 2018 09: 16
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        If the Syrians were shot down, then they had every right, if he carried strikes on their territory


        Of course they had every right.


        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        The retaliatory strike after so many years of war doesn’t scare anyone there. I wonder what landed from?


        Scary and more like that. It is for this reason that Assad reacts very weakly to Israeli attacks on terrorists and those who help them in Syria.

        Yes, it’s also interesting why Israel will strike in the near future.
        1. +15
          10 February 2018 09: 18
          Israel strikes terrorists in Syria? Seriously? Can you still change the flag?
          1. +1
            10 February 2018 09: 31
            Quote: Muvka
            Israel strikes terrorists in Syria?


            Yes, for Hezbollah terrorists and those who help them. And given that Assad helps them to store, transport and even produce - that flies to him.

            However, as we know, Russia is quite neutral about this and does not prevent Israel from fighting terrorists. Moreover, the strikes were targeted and where necessary.

            Although, when the igil terrorists struck Israel from Syria, Israel destroyed them.


            Quote: Muvka
            Can you still change the flag?


            There is nothing to change.
            1. +2
              10 February 2018 09: 48
              Since the flag does not need to be changed, why do you call Hezbollah terrorists? In Russia, as in most countries of the world, they are not terrorists. And if they are, give some examples of the attacks committed by Hezbollah. I'm waiting.
              1. +4
                10 February 2018 10: 06
                Quote: Muvka
                Since the flag does not need to be changed, why do you call Hezbollah terrorists?


                The shelling of civilians, terrorist attacks against civilians, etc.



                Quote: Muvka
                In Russia, as in most countries of the world, they are not terrorists.


                The countries lacking are recognized as a terrorist organization in Canada, the USA, Israel and Egypt, the League of Arab States, in the Persian Gulf countries, and also partially in the EU, Australia and Great Britain.


                Quote: Muvka
                And if they are, give some examples of the attacks committed by Hezbollah. I'm waiting


                Hezbollah members seized and stopped two cars near the USSR Embassy in Beirut. In one, there were consular officer Arkady Katkov and embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, in the other, KGB residency officers Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov

                Arkady Katkov was killed. The leader of the assassination was Imad Mugniya, nicknamed "Hyena" (it is known that Mugniya not only gave the order for the execution of Katkov, but also personally shot him). The remaining hostages were released



                A terrorist detonated a bomb on an Israeli tourist bus in the city of Burgas, Bulgaria. As a result of the attack, five Israeli citizens and a local bus driver were killed. 36 Israelis injured, three of them severe



                The assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. On February 14, 2005, a car bomb exploded on the route of the train of Lebanese ex-Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. The power of the explosion amounted to several kilograms of TNT. The explosion, Rafik Hariri, two former ministers in his government, three bodyguards and several others died.
                The Lebanon Special Tribunal named two high-ranking commanders of the Shiite terrorist organization Hezbollah as the main organizers.

                Etc
                1. 0
                  10 February 2018 10: 25
                  Well, call these attacks. And shelling. Give at least some evidence. The Israeli press does not channel. Do you want me to give links to several ISIS attacks? And you give me links to Hesballah attacks. Good?
                  1. 0
                    10 February 2018 11: 18
                    You do not see what I wrote?

                    Quote: Muvka
                    Israeli press does not channel


                    I specifically cited everything that is not the Israeli press.
                    1. 0
                      10 February 2018 12: 03
                      And where is it written that This is Hesballah? You give me links so that I can check.
                2. 0
                  10 February 2018 10: 34
                  The countries lacking are recognized as a terrorist organization in Canada, the USA, Israel and Egypt, the League of Arab States, in the Persian Gulf countries, and also partially in the EU, Australia and Great Britain.

                  And if tomorrow all of the above unanimously recognize your country as terrorist?
                  How, have to agree and repent?
                  1. 0
                    10 February 2018 11: 20
                    Quote: Mestny
                    And if tomorrow all of the above unanimously recognize your country as terrorist?


                    Is Hezbollah a country?


                    Quote: Mestny
                    How, you have to agree and repent


                    Do not recognize. Your fantasies are too strong.
              2. +1
                10 February 2018 11: 39
                Quote: Muvka
                And if they are, give some examples of the attacks committed by Hezbollah. I'm waiting.

                Why wait. Type in Hezbollah’s Terrorist Attacks in Google
            2. +9
              10 February 2018 09: 48
              Quote: Tiras
              Although, when terrorists igil hit from Syria on Israel - Israel

              ... then declared that Assad is responsible for everything. And they hit those who fight terrorists.
              In general, in Syria, ALL parties to the conflict, directly or indirectly, have their own groups of "tame" and "right" terrorists. The largest number of such “son of a bitch, but our son of a bitch” (c) of the coalition led by the United States. Israel has also been seen in supporting US-controlled terrorists. Healing, fire support, providing a "corridor" for their supply
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 10: 13
                Quote: Spade
                ... then declared that Assad is responsible for everything. And they hit those who fight terrorists.


                No. Here is an example


                On the morning of November 27, the Golani brigade, who patrolled the area in the southeastern part of the Golan Heights, was fired from a Syrian territory with a machine gun. The terrorists fired from the car on which they were driving near the border. In addition, fire was fired from an abandoned building. As a result of the shelling, no one was injured and no damage was caused.

                The patrol called a helicopter, which destroyed the car along with the militants. Four terrorists were killed. Judging by the available data, we are talking about the militants of the group "Shuhada al-Yarmouk" ("Army of Khalid ibn al-Walid"), associated with the Islamic State




                Quote: Spade
                by those who fight terrorists.


                Assad fights some terrorists and helps others.


                Quote: Spade
                . Israel has also been seen in supporting US-controlled terrorists. Healing, fire support, providing a "corridor" for their supply


                Heard these fantasies. Not a single evidence of Israel's involvement in all of this. Some empty words and accusations.
                1. +3
                  10 February 2018 10: 22
                  Quote: Tiras
                  Assad fights some terrorists and helps others.

                  Israel does the same.
                  Does this mean that he also needs to strike?
                  Quote: Tiras
                  Heard these fantasies. Not a single evidence of Israel's involvement in all of this.

                  Even the specific statements of the Israelis themselves should not be taken into account, because this does not fit into your blessed mess?
                  The real support of Israel to the Tahrir al-Sham group is directly indicated in the report of A. Gutterish. And he, by the way, is the UN Secretary General ...
                  1. +3
                    10 February 2018 10: 36
                    Quote: Spade
                    Israel does the same.

                    Israel does not help a single terrorist organization, nor Shiites, nor Sunnis. Israel heals only those brought by the UN. all claims to this organization where you sit in the Security Council possessing the right of veto. Failure to provide medical care is a war crime. forgot?

                    Quote: Spade
                    The real support of Israel to the Tahrir al-Sham group is directly indicated in the report of A. Gutterish. And he, by the way, is the UN Secretary General ...

                    Oh world, you are wonderful !!!
                    Israel helps the Syrians through the UN, and the UN accuses Israel of this.
                    1. +5
                      10 February 2018 11: 25
                      "Israel does not help a single terrorist organization" - lying again. With your airstrikes on the Syrian army, you help ISIS, SSA and other terrorists.
                      "Israel helps the Syrians" - stop bombing the Syrian army, this will be the best and real help.
                    2. +3
                      10 February 2018 11: 29
                      Quote: professor
                      Israel does not help any terrorist organization, nor Shiites, nor Sunnis

                      I agree with this ....
                      Quote: professor
                      Israel heals only those brought by the UN. all claims to this organization where you sit in the Security Council possessing the right of veto

                      interesting .... if they brought a half-dead Himler to the Jews - would you treat the same ?? and it’s better not to talk about the veto in the United Nations
                      Quote: professor
                      Failure to provide medical care is a war crime. forgot?

                      no, they didn’t forget ..... but these are terrorists ..... for me = fascists ..... it’s a pity that the Jews have a special approach to such subhuman
                      1. 0
                        10 February 2018 13: 50
                        Quote: Burbon
                        interesting .... if they brought a half-dead Himler to the Jews - would you treat the same ?? and it’s better not to talk about the veto in the United Nations

                        Treated. We are still treating everyone who needs medical care, including the Philistine terrorists. And lice do not treat wounded opponents? Finishing up?

                        Quote: Burbon
                        no, they didn’t forget ..... but these are terrorists ..... for me = fascists ..... it’s a pity that the Jews have a special approach to such subhuman

                        We honor the Geneva Conventions. Unlike you.
                    3. Maz
                      0
                      10 February 2018 11: 41
                      Does this bombing help? :)
            3. +2
              10 February 2018 10: 19
              and often igil beat in israel?
            4. +1
              10 February 2018 10: 36
              Israel itself opened camps on its frontier territory where ISIS terrorists lived and treated them in their clinics. This is a proven fact, for me personally you are no better than Saudi Arabia.
              1. +5
                10 February 2018 10: 44
                Quote: Graz
                Israel itself opened camps on its border territory where ISIS terrorists lived and treated them in its clinics it is a proven fact, you personally are no better for me than Saudi Arabia, one to one

                Docs to the studio.
            5. +4
              10 February 2018 11: 40
              By your logic, I repeat, we need to grind Ukraine into powder. So? Do you know what is bad? Previously, when confronting the two systems, at least some rules were respected. Now this is not there, but this is scary. This can bring real Armageddon closer. So what the hell is even more to throw firewood into the fire? I forgot something, in Israel recently, Iran, or terrorist attacks committed hezy? So then it is not an answer, but an act of aggression against a sovereign state.
          2. 0
            10 February 2018 11: 30
            Of course, and if Putin asks permission to strike an ISIS hiding gang in the desert of Iran, and he will be allowed to, because they can’t do it themselves, then this will also be right ...
        2. 0
          10 February 2018 10: 26
          Quote: Tiras
          Of course they had every right.

          they have the right - that they have a state of war ..... they can conduct ground operations
      2. +8
        10 February 2018 09: 17
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        If the Syrians were shot down, then they had every right if he carried strikes on their territory.

        They had, but they have the right to receive an answer.

        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        I wonder what landed from?

        1. Tsahal does not write about the cause of the fall.
        2. Tsahal did not hide the fact of the crash, although technically he could do it easily.
        3. The fall site is far from the border with Syria.

        The circle is the place of the fall, X is the airfield.
        4. The crew is intact in our hands. The rest is details.
        5. Syrians urgently evacuate their air defense bases.

        PS
        AOI press service message:
        "צה"ל באמצעות מטוסי קרב תקף מטרות איראניות בשטח סוריה בהמשך ליירוט המל"ט האיראני לפנות בוקריצ תתתשת.... במהלך תקיפת חיל האוויר שוגרו טילי נ"מ לעבר מטוסי צה"ל. טייסי אחד המטוסים הפעילו נוהל נטישה. הטייסים נחתו בשטח ישראל ופונו לקבלת טיפול רפואי בבית חולים. צה"ל רואה בתקיפה האיראנית ובתגובה הסורית הפרה חמורה וחריגה של הריבונות הישראלית. צההל עוקב ונמצותוטוט הטהתת
        1. +14
          10 February 2018 09: 22
          They had, but they have the right to receive an answer.
          In war as in war
          3. The fall site is far from the border with Syria
          Did not reach the airfield X
          5. Syrians urgently evacuate their air defense bases
          Relocate. Normal maneuver in anticipation of a hit on the highlighted positions hi
        2. +2
          10 February 2018 09: 24
          You already know everything. What a confidence in everything. But it seems to me that you are lying for complacency. And your MO really likes to hide losses ...
          1. +8
            10 February 2018 09: 31
            Quote: Muvka
            And your MO really likes to hide losses ...

            For example? And by the way, didn’t you hear from our MO about the fact of the fall of F-16?
            1. +5
              10 February 2018 09: 49
              No, not from yours. Yours said that the plane crashed, but at the same time lied. After all, the plane was shot down. The fact that the plane was shot down, it became known from other sources.
              1. +4
                10 February 2018 09: 53
                Quote: Muvka
                No, not from yours. Yours said that the plane crashed, but at the same time lied. After all, the plane was shot down. The fact that the plane was shot down, it became known from other sources.

                Yah? Or maybe there was no plane at all? And if they shot down then how F-16 (Eph sixteen, Karl) flew as far as 70 km? lol

                The fall of F-16 in northern Israel. A timeline of similar incidents over the past 20 years

                The crash of the F-16i Sufa near the kibbutz Harduf in the Jezreel Valley was the 11-m similar incident in Israel with aircraft of this class over the past 20 years. As previously reported, the pilots ejected and survived.

                If it is confirmed that the plane was shot down by Syrian air defense, then we are talking about the first such incident in many years.

                On October 5 2016, an F-16 crashed while landing at Ramon base after completing a mission in the Gaza Strip. Air Force Major Ohad Cohen-Nov (34) was killed. The navigator ejected and survived.

                On July 7 on 2013, at 50 km off the coast of Gaza, the F-16i fighter flying from the Hatzor base failed the engine. After making sure that it was not possible to start the engine, the crew decided to eject. The plane fell into the water.

                On November 11 on November 2010, an F-16i fighter crashed during a training flight near Mitzpe Ramon. Major Amichai Itkis (28) and Major Emmanuel Levy (30) were killed in this plane crash.

                On 13 of September 2009, an F-16 plane crashed in the area of ​​Hebron Highlands, which was controlled by Lieutenant Asaf Ramon, the son of the first Israeli cosmonaut Ilan Ramon. Asaf Ramon is dead.

                During the Second Lebanon War, in the summer of 2006, an accident occurred on an F-16 aircraft while it was taking off on the runway. Pilots, having detected a malfunction, catapulted, and the aircraft was stopped using a special grid. The pilots were not injured.

                In May 2005, pilots ejected from a plane landing at Ramat David base. The cause was a discovered technical malfunction. The pilots were not injured.

                In February 2003, another plane crashed near Jenin, the pilot managed to eject.

                In August 2000, the pilot was forced to leave the plane due to a malfunction found during a training flight. The pilot received minor injuries.

                In March 2000, the F-16 crashed in the Mediterranean Sea. During the search, the bodies of the pilots were discovered: Major Jonathan Begin (the son of Minister Beni Begin) and Captain Lior Arari.

                In August 1998, an F-16 crashed during a training flight. The pilot ejected.
                1. +2
                  10 February 2018 10: 03
                  And where is the information that he flew 70 km after a missile hit? I somehow missed this information.
                  1. +3
                    10 February 2018 10: 22
                    Quote: Muvka
                    And where is the information that he flew 70 km after a missile hit? I somehow missed this information.

                    I posted a map of the crash site. It is at 70 km from the Syrian border.
                    1. 0
                      10 February 2018 10: 39
                      The gas tank broke through. So he fell.
                    2. +1
                      10 February 2018 11: 07
                      Quote: professor
                      Quote: Muvka
                      And where is the information that he flew 70 km after a missile hit? I somehow missed this information.

                      I posted a map of the crash site. It is at 70 km from the Syrian border.

                      Do you know that a rocket needs time to reach its target? What could she hit a plane 20 km from the crash site?
            2. +8
              10 February 2018 09: 50
              I wonder if there is any way whatsoever to conceal the loss of a military aircraft worth tens of millions of dollars? In a country with a population density of several hundred people per square kilometer? What bragging is “technically possible”? With a vacuum cleaner, collect all the parts, and send all the surrounding residents to an eternal settlement in a kibbutz?
              I did not expect such nonsense from a Jew - to see the war loss greatly affected self-conceit, all barreness and complacency were blown away by the wind.
              1. +4
                10 February 2018 10: 04
                Quote: Varna
                I wonder if there is any way whatsoever to conceal the loss of a military aircraft worth tens of millions of dollars? In a country with a population density of several hundred people per square kilometer? What bragging is “technically possible”? With a vacuum cleaner, collect all the parts, and send all the surrounding residents to an eternal settlement in a kibbutz?

                Technically possible. for example, to claim that a drone has fallen, to cordon off territory, to evacuate kibbutzniks, etc. Introduce a law prohibiting the disclosure of losses in "peacetime". Not for me to teach you. wink

                Quote: Varna
                I did not expect such nonsense from a Jew - to see the war loss greatly affected self-conceit, all barreness and complacency were blown away by the wind.

                request
              2. +3
                10 February 2018 10: 04
                Yes, the professor can see how he, in impotent rage, is trying to convince himself and others that everything is fine. But how they boast about the invulnerability of their troops ... and here it is ... Pictures appeared on militarimaps that at least one pilot is not all right. They carry it on a stretcher and are clearly in a hurry ... So, pilots may be lost.
              3. 0
                10 February 2018 10: 26
                In fact, in Israel there are not only cities and kibbutzim. There Kagba Negev desert has 12000 sq km and there is where to get lost.
        3. +8
          10 February 2018 10: 04
          Quote: professor
          AOI press service message:
          "צה"ל באמצעות מטוסי קרב תקף מטרות איראניות בשטח סוריה בהמשך ליירוט המל"ט האיראני לפנות בוקריצ תתתשת.... במהלך תקיפת חיל האוויר שוגרו טילי נ"מ לעבר מטוסי צה"ל. טייסי אחד המטוסים הפעילו נוהל נטישה. הטייסים נחתו בשטח ישראל ופונו לקבלת טיפול רפואי בבית חולים. צה"ל רואה בתקיפה האיראנית ובתגובה הסורית הפרה חמורה וחריגה של הריבונות הישראלית. צההל עוקב ונמצותוטוט הטהתת

          What kind of scribbles and nonsense? belay
          If it’s on a Russian site, then post it in Russian, or at least English. But who will understand this scripture? Less than 1% is likely.
          1. +3
            10 February 2018 10: 24
            Right now, our MO will write for you in Russian. Google translates to help you.
            1. +2
              10 February 2018 14: 07
              then why laid out, amuse yourself ??? Or show that the Jews have a written language ???? maybe you don’t know the language ???
              You can google without you as a professor.
        4. +4
          10 February 2018 10: 51
          I think that Israel’s response will be extremely sobering to the usurper. I really hope for it!
        5. 0
          10 February 2018 11: 23
          "They did, but they have the right to receive an answer." - get an answer for daring to defend themselves against the attacking aggressor?
          And then you wonder why you are not loved in the mass of countries of the world ...
        6. Maz
          0
          10 February 2018 11: 42
          But Russia does not evacuate its bases.
  5. +2
    10 February 2018 09: 03
    Well, something already
  6. +1
    10 February 2018 09: 03
    Yes, it seems to me nonsense. Although the quantity inevitably turns into quality.
    But I generally like it, it was shot down because it was heading towards Israel; soon it would be impossible to send towards Israel.
  7. +6
    10 February 2018 09: 04
    This war is nothing to rejoice about
    1. +9
      10 February 2018 09: 49
      This is joy with tears in his eyes.
  8. +9
    10 February 2018 09: 05
    It seems that here the solid friends of the Syrian people have gathered. What difference do the Jews of the Syrians bring down or vice versa?
    1. +16
      10 February 2018 09: 11
      Big one. Syrians are fighting against the terrorists who threatened our country. Syrian special forces worked in the area where our pilot died, looking for the perpetrators and MANPADS pipes. And when the Syrians are attacked, relatively helpless against the aircraft, I have a difference who they shot down.
    2. +15
      10 February 2018 09: 13
      It seems that here the solid friends of the Syrian people have gathered. What difference do the Jews of the Syrians bring down or vice versa?


      Oh no ... the difference is big ...
      We will be very interested in observing the struggle of strike aircraft of Israel (American production) and air defense of Syria (produced by the USSR and RUSSIA).
      We must also see how in reality weapons work in war.
      1. +5
        10 February 2018 09: 28
        Air defense of Syria (produced by the USSR and RUSSIA). That's just the Jews fly pilots with eggs, and the Syrian air defense still have these calculations. If there were ours, then it would be interesting. And so ...
        1. +1
          10 February 2018 09: 37
          Syria’s air defense also has calculations. If there were ours, then it would be interesting. And so ...


          Even with such calculations, the Syrians managed to bring down the strike aircraft of ISRAEL ... and this is not so easy to do ... given the highly qualified pilots.
        2. +3
          10 February 2018 10: 07
          Your calculations were in the Bekaa Valley in 1982, so the calculation has nothing to do with
          1. +7
            10 February 2018 11: 45
            Your calculations were in the Bekaa Valley in 1982, so the calculation has nothing to do with

            Both on. The USSR was in 1982, were its calculations? And in what camp were you born, raised, educated? Or do you go to school? About people like you S.V. Lavrov said. Guess yourself?
          2. +3
            10 February 2018 11: 57
            Do not repeat this nonsense
        3. +2
          10 February 2018 10: 32
          Quote: lwxx
          Air defense of Syria (produced by the USSR and RUSSIA). That's just the Jews fly pilots with eggs, and the Syrian air defense still have these calculations. If there were ours, then it would be interesting. And so ...

          And so, our calculations work in which men with eggs sit, who receive commands from Putin himself V.V. from Moscow itself in a straight line, well, in short, in everything V.V. Putin - to blame!
          He revealed to you a "military secret" overheard by grandmothers!
          It became more interesting?
          War is the engine of progress, but Moloch is destiny! No heh .. - interesting!
  9. +6
    10 February 2018 09: 05
    Everything is right - in war, as in war -. And no offense.
  10. +12
    10 February 2018 09: 07
    That's right and done, I hope not the last.
    It’s time already to cut off the wings of the SAShts
  11. +1
    10 February 2018 09: 09
    How much the rope does not curl ...
  12. +1
    10 February 2018 09: 09
    Well now the second act of war in Syria will begin.
    Interestingly, against the Jews harnessed for the Syrians?
    1. +3
      10 February 2018 09: 14
      I bet that we will harness for the Jews against the Syrians. It’s painful sincere conversations recently with Netanyahu
      1. +3
        10 February 2018 10: 06
        Quote: syndicalist
        I bet that we will harness for the Jews against the Syrians.

        coffins with flags prepared or what? belay laughing
        then do not cry. laughing
    2. +2
      10 February 2018 09: 16
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well now the second act of war in Syria will begin.

      I think on the contrary, the lull will begin .. heh heh
      Quote: Zomanus
      Interestingly, against the Jews harnessed for the Syrians?

      And what are we doing in Syria ..? Looks like they calculated whose MANPADS (delivery from a long circuit ..) brought down Filipov (just keep quiet about it)
      1. +2
        10 February 2018 09: 33
        what does it have to do with it? this is not an event in any way connected. and the Syrians shot him down, and not our SAMs.
      2. +3
        10 February 2018 09: 41
        Mikhan, here I agree and the Syrian Air Force and VKS will be parked on the ground. You may not know, but the doctrine of Israel is based on the fact that the manifestation of hostile actions towards a country or citizens is punished in double. May I remind you of Iraqi Osirak or Etaben or the PLO headquarters in Tunisia.
        1. +6
          10 February 2018 09: 51
          Quote: ventel
          Mikhan, here I agree and the Syrian Air Force and VKS will be parked on the ground. You may not know, but the doctrine of Israel is based on the fact that the manifestation of hostile actions towards a country or citizens is punished in double. May I remind you of Iraqi Osirak or Etaben or the PLO headquarters in Tunisia.

          If ours are touched, a plowed field will remain from Israeli airfields. Ours in Syria have always flown and will fly, despite the small dogs that are loudly yapping.
          1. +6
            10 February 2018 10: 07
            Do not tell, and even the USSR could not do anything to Israel, only the UN and the newspapers threatened it. I won’t be surprised if the Russian Foreign Ministry and Defense Ministry make excuses that their Syrian side did not agree on the launch of the rocket and they do not bear any responsibility if Israel gives an answer.
            1. 0
              10 February 2018 10: 28
              Well, let's see how it will actually be ...
            2. 0
              10 February 2018 18: 12
              Quote: ventel
              Do not tell, and even the USSR could not do anything to Israel only at the UN and in the newspapers threatened

              Haha, then MiG-25 RB in Tel Aviv aerobatics were spinning, despite all the efforts of the Jews to bring them down! Write ischo! laughing
              1. 0
                10 February 2018 23: 08
                Yes, it’s hard to argue with people like you, because you don’t want to think objectively. Well, briefly, why did the MiG-25 not fly aerobatics somewhere over Bon or over Florida or over Beijing. In your opinion, it turns out that the Americans flew over the U2 floor of the USSR for several years and the attempts came out only with Powers despite the fact that they lost as many as two perihvachiki.
                1. +1
                  10 February 2018 23: 53
                  Actually, this is a story. The MiG-25RB flew over Israel and Sinai during the Arab-Israeli war of 1969 from the Egyptian airfield as part of the 63rd OJSC, and all the repeated attempts by the Israeli air defense to intercept Soviet aircraft (Phantom, Mirage and Hawk air defense fighters) ) ended in zilch. It’s such a shame that the Jews ran to the Yankees - they say, give us the latest air defense systems!
                  They flew over Blue and Israel and in 1973, during the Doomsday War, with a similar result. Not a single successful interception.
                  The leadership of the IAP of the USSR discussed the possibility of bombing Tel Aviv - bombs were even delivered to Egypt. But it didn’t come ...
                2. 0
                  10 February 2018 23: 55
                  U-2 after the Powers story did not fly over the SSR. MiG-25 entered the unit after 10 years, in 1970. We observe the chronology)
        2. +2
          10 February 2018 11: 00
          Quote: ventel
          You may not know, but the doctrine of Israel is based on the fact that the manifestation of hostile actions towards a country or citizens is punished in double. May I remind you of Iraqi Osirak or Etaben or the PLO headquarters in Tunisia.

          Yes, I know and they read the Talmut and their sages ..
          We are also developing such a doctrine in Russia .. Let Israel take this into account before undertaking anything! soldier If it didn’t work out .. hehe
          1. +1
            10 February 2018 11: 04
            That Israeli tangerines and oranges will not be bought out to the Turks have shown the doctrine.
            1. 0
              10 February 2018 11: 41
              Quote: ventel
              That Israeli tangerines and oranges will not be bought out to the Turks have shown the doctrine.

              I haven’t seen Israeli tangerines .. In Moscow, they are all consumed, as well as Belarusian goods .. laughing And we survive on our own, like .. hehe
              1. 0
                10 February 2018 12: 05
                Here you are on the clave about Russia, even tangerines do not reach, and in Moscow in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense they will not find their faces.
                1. 0
                  10 February 2018 12: 34
                  Quote: ventel
                  Here you are on clave about Russia, even tangerines do not reach

                  The tangerines are Abkhazian and very tasty, and the potato is Bashkir and local .. And the apples are Krasnodar and the smell is indescribable in the shops .. That's why I bake, I remember the real taste of the products and the quality of other engineering products of the USSR! But they don’t let us in. The devil knows that for 1000 km they’ll take ugh pancake in beautiful packages! ..That is insulting and painful for Russia! hi
                  1. 0
                    10 February 2018 19: 43
                    I remember the real taste of the products and the quality of other engineering products of the USSR!
                    mechanical engineering made products! Well kopek!
          2. Maz
            +1
            10 February 2018 12: 24
            In March last year, Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman said that in the event of a new shelling of Israeli aircraft, the Syrian air defense system will be destroyed.
            1. +1
              10 February 2018 13: 00
              Quote: Maz
              In March last year, Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman said that in the event of a new shelling of Israeli aircraft, the Syrian air defense system will be destroyed.

              And Russian too ..? bully Maz, give more info, you know their ins and outs almost everything! (although he left them angry ..)))
        3. 0
          10 February 2018 20: 17
          Quote: ventel
          Mikhan, here I agree and the Syrian Air Force and VKS will be parked on the ground. You may not know, but the doctrine of Israel is based on the fact that the manifestation of hostile actions towards a country or citizens is punished in double. May I remind you of Iraqi Osirak or Etaben or the PLO headquarters in Tunisia.

          Israeli warriors punish Weblogs three times. Front, back and top. They would try to meet with real soldiers .....
          1. 0
            10 February 2018 22: 57
            I want to clarify under camels you mean the Arabs.
            1. 0
              10 February 2018 23: 30
              Quote: ventel
              I want to clarify under camels you mean the Arabs.

              By camels, I mean camels.
              If you want, I can join their lawyers.
    3. +4
      10 February 2018 09: 17
      Quote: Zomanus
      Interestingly, against the Jews harnessed for the Syrians?

      Yes, where there!
      Right now Ben Lazar and the Bearded High will rise to the whole Kagal and Centner of Tolerance ...
  13. +11
    10 February 2018 09: 10
    Jumped cunning. Finally they got what they deserved. Do not hell to climb into someone else's territory. good
  14. +8
    10 February 2018 09: 11
    The Syrian air defense shot down an Israeli Air Force aircraft. According to some reports, we are talking about the F-16 aircraft, which attacked the territory of Syria.

    Maybe even after that they will understand that it is impossible to “bomb” the territory of a neighboring state on the basis of its whim. request
    In general, the campaign, everything in Syria is just beginning.
    If we take into account the confrontation between Syria-terrorists, Syria-Israel, Syria-Turkey, Syria-coalition and other participants in the action, then the universal fire is just around the corner and the BP has crept close.
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 10: 06
      Israel satellite ov. What they say is what they will do. Some of them show off only that they conduct their policy. So there will be a retaliatory strike and there everything will spin!
    2. +1
      10 February 2018 10: 43
      Maybe even after that they will understand that it is impossible to “bomb” the territory of a neighboring state on the basis of its whim. request

      No, they don’t understand.
      When you have world domination in your head, and you hate humanity as a whole, there will be only two options - at the first opportunity, to destroy this very humanity by any most cruel methods, or if you get it seriously in a brazen face, it hides, grinding its teeth, and continue to accumulate strength for the next attempts to destroy humanity.
  15. +4
    10 February 2018 09: 12
    Waiting for Netanyahu in Moscow soon ..! We warned them not to be impudent ..
    1. +2
      10 February 2018 10: 16
      Yes, probably on the road with gifts.
      1. +2
        10 February 2018 11: 01
        Quote: zivXP
        Yes, probably on the road with gifts.

        And with threats too ..)))
        GDP Hold on to Russia for you! And be afraid of Danians bringing gifts ..
        1. 0
          10 February 2018 23: 32
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: zivXP
          Yes, probably on the road with gifts.

          And with threats too ..)))
          GDP Hold on to Russia for you! And be afraid of Danians bringing gifts ..

          They do not go to the audience with threats.
  16. +1
    10 February 2018 09: 15
    Syrian troops deployed air defense system

    What other air defense systems are there?
  17. +8
    10 February 2018 09: 17
    Urgently to sell Syria S-400. It must be tested on the F-35
    1. +4
      10 February 2018 09: 39
      Count what happens if the S-400 screwed up?
      1. +8
        10 February 2018 09: 43
        And if you don’t screw it up? smile
        The war is a controversial thing ... how lucky ... even if you have seven spans in your forehead you will not leave fate anyway. what
      2. 0
        10 February 2018 23: 34
        Quote: Corporal
        Count what happens if the S-400 screwed up?

        And for this, do not sell. Use by yourself. But, first carefully talk to them. And, of course, help stop the activity of hezbollah. Also very carefully.
    2. 0
      10 February 2018 11: 30
      Quote: Adequate
      Urgently to sell Syria S-400

      along with the calculations? request
  18. +6
    10 February 2018 09: 18
    GOOD FELLOWS !!! For a long time it was a little to comb this pack against the wool!
    There are still parrots from the "alliance" waiting for their gifts.
  19. +4
    10 February 2018 09: 20
    a good day!
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  20. +9
    10 February 2018 09: 22
    The first time I hear that the F-16 flies "with the crew!" Do they have any “fighting” sparks?
    In general, the combat effectiveness of Syrian air defense is growing by leaps and bounds. Israel did not understand? After all, his missiles were already shot down ...
    1. +4
      10 February 2018 09: 45
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Do they have any “fighting” sparks?

      It looks like they have all the airplanes - "sparks"
    2. +1
      10 February 2018 09: 53
      Yes, the Syrians of air defense have always been quite combat-ready. In any case, the S-200VE was in service even before the start of the civil war.
  21. +2
    10 February 2018 09: 25
    Well, say say now Arabs are bent
  22. +4
    10 February 2018 09: 27
    Life is becoming more and more interesting ... soldier
    Something like "unexpectedly"
  23. +7
    10 February 2018 09: 30
    Thank you need to say to the Russian specialists that the air defense was repaired and added something. . Already something, but they can. Brains would have them ...
    Well, the Iranian pros are the guardians of the revolution, they are really present there, and no one is hiding this. And they died according to official figures of more than 1000 fighters. So they howl seriously there.
    So Israel and the United States rage.
  24. +4
    10 February 2018 09: 32
    Add a photo
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 09: 59
      Quote: Alexander War
      Add a photo

      1. +4
        10 February 2018 10: 29
        Professor, why don’t you upload photos where they carry a “living” or barely alive pilot? You said that everything is fine with him.
        1. +5
          10 February 2018 11: 09
          Quote: Muvka
          Professor, why don’t you upload photos where they carry a “living” or barely alive pilot? You said that everything is fine with him.

          And the pictures are not high quality hehe
          In 2013, etc. I remember the heading here was the US Armament, such photos were beautiful, everyone spat here and drove him into the skulls .. laughing Now she just sneers and gets angry! It is a pity the pros were banned (at his request, obviously ..)))
        2. +4
          10 February 2018 11: 49
          Professor, why don’t you post the photo, where are the "living" or barely alive pilot? You said that everything is fine with him.

          Colleague, I think this is superfluous. One individual on VO immediately posted a photo of the body of Roman Filippov, the moderators had to write.
          1. 0
            10 February 2018 13: 02
            Well, right there alive. The professor says he is alive. Aren't we going to believe the professor?
            1. +4
              10 February 2018 18: 50
              All the same, this is superfluous, IMHO of course. The wreckage of the aircraft okay, and the photo of the pilot. Well I do not know.
        3. +1
          10 February 2018 13: 37
          Quote: Muvka
          Professor, why don’t you upload photos where they carry a “living” or barely alive pilot? You said that everything is fine with him.

          Right now. I’ll post their full name. Enough debris from Syrian missiles in OUR territory is enough for you.
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          2. 0
            11 February 2018 11: 15
            Prof., does the state have fire at targets over the territory of another state if these targets are firing? Well, for example, Israeli planes bomb Syrian government troops from Israeli territory - does Syrian troops have the right to defend themselves?

            In general, for me it is not a question - they have. And the fact that you were in Syria and falling to fly to Israel is your problem ... Turkey also shot down a Su-24 allegedly over Turkey, but it fell in Syria.
            And if you were really smart, you would not quarrel with Russia, and, like little jackals, bite Syria. Netanyahu now would be more correct to fly to Moscow will apologize, as Erdogan in due time.
      2. +1
        10 February 2018 11: 12
        It’s good that I fell out of the house
        1. +7
          10 February 2018 11: 17
          They didn’t take it away, it was lucky.
  25. +7
    10 February 2018 09: 33
    Involuntarily the question arises about the "supplier" of MANPADS ...
    And so it happened ... Israeli pilots haven’t been shot down for so many years, but then ...
  26. +3
    10 February 2018 09: 34
    Jumped select.
  27. +2
    10 February 2018 09: 34
    They say the Syrians launched 25 anti-aircraft missiles! If one knocked out, then what a low efficiency.
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 09: 37
      https://vk.com/video-123538639_456246031 Видео по теме!
    2. +4
      10 February 2018 09: 54
      Why not 250? Or better than 2500. But they say, as I understand it, Israeli resources?
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 11: 33
        Quote: Muvka
        Why not 250? Or better than 2500. But they say, as I understand it, Israeli resources?

        Do you know another info?
        1. 0
          10 February 2018 12: 09
          Quote: Burbon
          Quote: Muvka
          Why not 250? Or better than 2500. But they say, as I understand it, Israeli resources?

          Do you know another info?

          No, but I only hear this from the lips of a forum member. No evidence.
    3. +7
      10 February 2018 10: 10
      At my entrance, the grandmother is more modest, only 20 pieces were counted in the sky. They say they saw it with their own eyes.
  28. +2
    10 February 2018 09: 36
    judging by the map, the s-200 coverage area. but the affected area ... when massed is how much .... 2pcs. Israelis probably complex guidance s-300 that you bombed all the same survived.
  29. +2
    10 February 2018 09: 39
    It is high time to bring down planes of other countries in Syria. Why so shy for so long? All the same, missiles to Buki sold from Russia in sufficient quantities. Yes, and other systems too
  30. +5
    10 February 2018 09: 43
    Quote: Tlauicol
    Quote: Semyonitch
    Do not snarl ... you need to beat first

    yeah, then the IDF will be in Damascus in a day

    In fact, nothing positive is happening in Syria right now. Only the escalation of the conflict in the format of "all against all." Even the IG had clashed with al-Nusra the other day (or what is it now called?). Turks are rolling out the Kurds in Afrin. SSA fights with the Greens and IS in Idlib and DeZ, the Coalition and SDS fought with the SAA and our advisers, the lettuce shot our Su-25, the Israelis bombed in Damascus, the SAA shot down the Israeli F-16 ... And this is only through a few days after the end of the type of Syria peace conference in Sochi))
    1. mad
      0
      10 February 2018 11: 16
      Forgot that the Pendos on Wednesday put almost 200 Wagnerovtsev ...
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 23: 44
        Quote: mad
        Forgot that the Pendos on Wednesday put almost 200 Wagnerovtsev ...

        Do not drag nonsense. Do not work for the enemy.
  31. +8
    10 February 2018 09: 46
    Professor right that modern weapons can strike without entering the airspace of the country. And he is shot down, it turns out, over his territory. But he struck at a foreign land. So there are no rightists. A typical situation in this region. There is no reason to jump on both sides.
  32. +6
    10 February 2018 09: 47
    Zionists got their !!! No need to bow before them !!! Zionism and fascism of the bogeyman and brothers !!!
    1. +7
      10 February 2018 09: 55
      Go learn the grammar first, and then slogans from the 1970 demonstration throw
  33. 0
    10 February 2018 09: 52
    one F-16 crashed in Israel, the pilots are safe.
    Isn't the F-16 single?
    1. +1
      10 February 2018 09: 59
      The letter F-16I means that it is a double modification specially designed for Israel.
    2. 0
      10 February 2018 10: 11
      Quote: Horst78
      Isn't the F-16 single?

      There are two-seater, training and percussion option, it is quite difficult for the pilot alone to keep track of everything.
  34. +1
    10 February 2018 09: 55
    You are all happy here, and now think about what will happen in the very near future ...
    1. +3
      10 February 2018 10: 14
      What will be, what will be - winter will end, there will be spring.
    2. +3
      10 February 2018 10: 19
      Quote from AloeMC
      You are all happy here, and now think about what will happen in the very near future ...

      Harassing Russia and possibly terrorist attacks .. I think our intelligence services are ready for anything!
      Are you guys ready? I have long been .. hi
  35. +4
    10 February 2018 09: 56
    Information went on about several aircraft.
    Moscow. February 10th. INTERFAX.RU - Syrian air defense forces shot down several Israeli Air Force planes that attacked a military base in central Syria. This was reported by the Syrian news agency SANA, citing military sources.
    Details of what happened in the news agency are not given. It only clarifies that the "act of aggression" by Israel occurred this morning. In response, the Syrian military knocked out "more than one" aircraft.
    1. +7
      10 February 2018 10: 02
      Professor, how long?
      You know better from there - a small country everyone knows each other ...
      Unlike Russia, the plane will always fall not in the "wild steppes" ...
      so adyn or not adyn?
      1. +7
        10 February 2018 10: 12
        Quote: Olezhek
        Professor, how long?
        You know better from there - a small country everyone knows each other ...
        Unlike Russia, the plane will always fall not in the "wild steppes" ...
        so adyn or not adyn?

        Poofess in a stupor. Torchka “grabbed”. Right now, the council expects Netanyahi Shaw to hang on the ears of goyim))
      2. 0
        10 February 2018 10: 25
        Quote: Olezhek
        Professor, how long?

        Fell alone. The reason has not yet been announced.
        1. +2
          10 February 2018 10: 56
          Happy holiday to you Oleg!
          Well, although for you the failure of an accomplice of the Israeli terrorists is certainly not a holiday, but still, rejoice with me for the small but pleasant loss of the impudent Israel!
          1. +4
            10 February 2018 13: 39
            Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
            Happy holiday to you Oleg!
            Well, although for you the failure of an accomplice of the Israeli terrorists is certainly not a holiday, but still, rejoice with me for the small but pleasant loss of the impudent Israel!

            I will not go down to your level and will not be happy about the next downed Russian side.
            1. 0
              10 February 2018 15: 57
              I will not go down to your level and will not be happy about the next downed Russian side.

              Professor - everything is OK!
              You can be proud of its "intractable" Air Force! wink
            2. 0
              11 February 2018 11: 36
              The hysteria of the Israeli Zionist is satisfied.
              Do you remember how you said that Israel and Syria are “at war”? So your hysteria is completely incomprehensible, since war means losses. You boasted of your invulnerability there? Well, you won’t boast anymore, I congratulate you on the loss of virginity! )))
      3. +3
        10 February 2018 10: 31
        Quote: Olezhek
        Professor, how long?
        You know better from there - a small country everyone knows each other ...
        Unlike Russia, the plane will always fall not in the "wild steppes" ...
        so adyn or not adyn?

        The second could not have time to reach the border.
  36. +5
    10 February 2018 09: 56
    Shot down, not shot down. You do not just have to become like scum and mock, no matter how you relate to Star-David comrades.
  37. +8
    10 February 2018 10: 00
    Fine! For a long time it was necessary to give something to someone on the wort! Well done "Syrians"
  38. +4
    10 February 2018 10: 07
    Not enough ... But, dashing trouble - the beginning !!! Congratulations!! It looks like a return line for the SU-25 ... Although the return line should be 1: 5. We are waiting for development ..
  39. +1
    10 February 2018 10: 09
    But colleagues today are Shabbat ... belay
    You can’t discuss such a topic ...
    Wrong it
    1. +4
      10 February 2018 10: 54
      To bomb on Shabbat, then, right?
      Let’s do it - since the Shabbat does not apply to the bombers, even if it does not apply to the debaters!
  40. +2
    10 February 2018 10: 10
    They say they shot me down. In the south, planes flew into Shabbat, goodbye to Syria's air defense.


    According to the IDF press service, Syrian air defense systems fired on Israeli aircraft, knocking out one of them, the F-16i Sufa. Two pilots managed to eject, they survived and were taken to the hospital. The plane crashed near the kibbutz Harduf in the Jezreel Valley.
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 10: 31
      It is still unknown who whom ...
  41. +4
    10 February 2018 10: 11
    Finally, it is done. It's time to bring down the planes of the Israeli aggressor. felt too loose
  42. +10
    10 February 2018 10: 15
    The good news and article today .. The soul sings straight men! Shot down nevertheless .. fellow Not afraid!
    And remember how the "Israeli comrades" after the bombing of Syrian territory, maliciously maliciously, like, well, where are your praised air defense, etc. Get insolent and this is just the beginning, our patience is over! Oh wei hehe
  43. +1
    10 February 2018 10: 16
    And what a fun there they live in the Middle East: Arabs do not like Jews, Jews do not like Arabs, and everyone is happy.
  44. 0
    10 February 2018 10: 21
    Smacks of anti-semitism
    1. +1
      10 February 2018 10: 24
      Smacks of anti-semitism
      Be careful.
      You run into a comment. For ambiguity ...
    2. 0
      10 February 2018 11: 12
      Quote: Dormidont
      Smacks of anti-semitism

      You already wrote this more than once that stuck ..? hi
  45. +4
    10 February 2018 10: 22
    Finally I waited!
  46. +4
    10 February 2018 10: 22
    Why did they create the UN? One dictator (USA) deployed his base in Syria even without the permission of the UN and its government, the other (Israel) declares that he will not tolerate the appearance of Iranian military bases in Syria, even if Syria permits it. If the United States does not like something, then they can impose economic sanctions against any countries with impunity, spitting on international treaties and charters. What is going on in the world? Dear UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, why were you elected to this post, why is the UN Security Council not putting things in order in the world community? Do you also intend to calmly sit in this high post, receiving a large salary, which is paid from contributions from all countries, as Ban Ge Moon did? It's time to start working if you agreed to this post!
  47. +5
    10 February 2018 10: 25
    there is a feeling that the site is not Russian but Syrian, only in Cyrillic, most commentators probably have already broken sofas jumping for joy, there that Syria that Israel defends its interests and I don’t see what Israeli interests are worse than Syrian interests or vice versa ... hi
    1. +6
      10 February 2018 10: 44
      In fact, our troops are there and are fighting on the side of Assad. And Israel is fighting against Assad. So Israel is fighting against Russia and on the side of ISIS
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 10: 48
        our troops are fighting there against terrorists at the invitation of the legitimate authorities, and not on Assad’s side, this is official, Israel also seems to be fighting against terrorists, but others are also official, so everything is very muddy there ...
        1. +3
          10 February 2018 10: 55
          Wait, who is the official authority there. Assad. So on which side are we fighting? Israel, taking advantage of Assad's weakness, is solving its tasks, undermining Syria's already flimsy defenses. Israel almost never touched the igil, which is very strange, because they even reached the Arctic Circle, but here at their side. Therefore, it’s not quite muddy there. Israel and Turkey like jackals tearing half-dead Syria.
          1. +2
            10 February 2018 11: 05
            How do you know what Israel is doing there? are you there in our contingent? or are you a Syrian officer? went to the places of blows?
            1. +1
              10 February 2018 11: 14
              If Israel had bombed the Voronezh region, you would have written, and what’s wrong, maybe Israel found terrorists there. Israel inflicted a blow on Asad’s territory, not some idlib. And if Israeli planes fired at Assad’s troops, then Israel inflicted damage on them.
              1. +3
                10 February 2018 11: 27
                the Syrian army and hezbollah are two different things ...
          2. +1
            10 February 2018 11: 15
            Quote: Moskovit
            Israel, taking advantage of Assad's weakness, is solving its tasks, undermining Syria's already flimsy defenses.


            For some reason, weak Assad finds time to help Hezbollah’s terrorists arm themselves and strengthen against Israel.
            Moreover, Assad is setting himself up because he knows that Israel will strike Syria for helping Hezbollah terrorists.

            Quote: Moskovit
            Israel almost never touched the igil, which is very strange, because they even reached the Arctic Circle, but here at their side.


            ISIS fired from Gaza and Sinai at Israel. They tried to organize terrorist attacks, etc.
            Their Syria probably a couple of times, for which they received a return.


            What is so strange here? Isis have few problems in Syria and they still need Israel?


            Quote: Moskovit
            Israel and Turkey like jackals tearing half-dead Syria.


            Bullshit is everything. Assad himself puts Syria under Israeli attacks helping terrorists.
            1. +2
              10 February 2018 11: 29
              Even the Professor admitted that the igil did nothing serious against Israel, maybe a couple of some minor shellings, no more. They say they’re afraid. The US and the EU are not afraid, and Israel got scared. Hezbollah helps save Syria, fights and has lost thousands of people in the fight against the Isis. Therefore, they are in Syria. They are in the territory of another state. Hezbollah suffered gigantic losses in Syria.
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 11: 45
                Quote: Moskovit
                Hezbollah helps save Syria, fights and has lost thousands of people in the fight against the Isis. Therefore, they are in Syria. They are in the territory of another state. Hezbollah suffered gigantic losses in Syria.


                The more terrorists died in Syria, the better and it doesn’t matter whether they are Sunni or Shiite.
        2. 0
          10 February 2018 11: 10
          Quote: faiver
          our troops are fighting there against terrorists at the invitation of the legitimate authorities, and not on Assad’s side, this is official, Israel also seems to be fighting against terrorists, but others are also official, so everything is very muddy there ...

          And where are the terrorists located west of Damascus? Everyone was knocked out of there long ago.
          1. 0
            10 February 2018 11: 15
            Hezbollah in Israel is considered a terrorist organization ...
            1. +2
              10 February 2018 12: 11
              And in our country, the right sector is considered a terrorist organization, but we will not bomb Kiev. According to the UN charter, only recognized terrorists can be bombed.
              1. +2
                10 February 2018 12: 31
                Well, we are not Israel and therefore we are not bombing, but Kiev no longer has Crimea and there are LC and DNI, plus the economy imprisoned under the Russian Federation in ruin ... hi slightly different approaches
      2. 0
        10 February 2018 11: 10
        Quote: Moskovit
        . And Israel is fighting against Assad. So Israel is fighting against Russia and on the side of ISIS


        The Russian ambassador to Israel once said that Russia has an agreement with Syria to help Syria fight terrorism, but there is no agreement on helping Russia Syria in the Israel-Syria conflict.

        Israel does not fight against Assad. Russia also knows this very well and does not intervene.

        Yes Assad helps Hezbollah terrorists to store, transport, produce weapons to fight Israel, allows terrorists to settle near the borders of Syria and Israel.
        For this, he receives a point.
    2. +2
      10 February 2018 10: 49
      Why are Israel's interests manifested in Syria in the form of bombing of the Syrian army fighting against terrorists?
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 10: 51
        how do you know that they are bombing the Syrian army and not hezbollah?
        1. +1
          10 February 2018 11: 10
          So Israel writes about this, and Syria, and Russia notes, and international journalists confirm the fact of Israel’s attacks on the Syrian army and on Hezbollah. By the way, Hezbollah is fighting against terrorists, and is not fighting against Israel - so why Is Israel bombing it? But in general - are you trying to troll like that - "you were not there, and therefore you do not know"?
          In general, your logic is strange (if you can call it logic at all) - if there are reports in the media, then it is enough to decide on their reliability to judge what is happening, whether this or that event happened or not.
          1. +1
            10 February 2018 11: 19
            everyone has their own logic, I personally do not trust either of these, therefore I say that everything is very muddy there and the reliability of any information is a big question ...
  48. +2
    10 February 2018 10: 26
    According to reports, Israel dealt a new blow to Syria again near Damascus.
    Explosions are heard.
    Assad began to receive a response from Israel

    One of the Israeli pilots was seriously injured. Israel’s response will be difficult.
    1. +1
      10 February 2018 10: 49
      sit in damascus?
      1. +2
        10 February 2018 11: 05
        I read the news.
  49. +3
    10 February 2018 10: 26
    For a long time I’ve been trying to understand-what sobsno Israel forgot for this "great Syrian war of all against all"? Does the military budget squeeze pockets?
    1. +2
      10 February 2018 10: 34
      Quote: Olezhek
      For a long time I’ve been trying to understand-what sobsno Israel forgot for this "great Syrian war of all against all"?


      Iranian envoys are Hezbollah terrorists who receive weapons through Syria and who have now decided to entrench themselves in Syria.
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 10: 39
        Quote: Tiras
        Quote: Olezhek
        For a long time I’ve been trying to understand-what sobsno Israel forgot for this "great Syrian war of all against all"?


        Iranian envoys are Hezbollah terrorists who receive weapons through Syria and who have now decided to entrench themselves in Syria.

        You are trying in vain to explain something to a person. He has a split personality. He doesn’t like it when "bases of hostile states are located near borders." But when someone also does not like it, then here he has the logic to go to bed. Therefore, all these explanations are useless on your part. hi
  50. +10
    10 February 2018 10: 28
    Jews are a unique nation. To say the least, they all dislike that no one sympathizes. And this is manifested in everything, and not just in this episode.
    1. +4
      10 February 2018 10: 36
      Well, yes, there is nothing like that for Russia and the Russians.
      Olympics, NATO, sanctions, etc.
      1. 0
        11 February 2018 10: 01
        Say thanks to the Western media, which are largely Jewish oligarchs, but people in the West don’t believe them - there’s even the term presstitute
    2. +1
      10 February 2018 12: 28
      love to speak for everyone is a sign of not very big mind
  51. +6
    10 February 2018 10: 32
    Israel received a punch on the nose, but its defenses were not greatly affected. Now there will be some kind of response in the form of missile strikes or massive bombing. Therefore, there is nothing particularly to be excited about.
    But the first step has been taken. Israel was shown that there is no point in roaming over foreign territories. The conversation should not start from a position of strength; Syria also has something to answer. And Israel will still answer for the truce with ISIS...
  52. +1
    10 February 2018 10: 39
    It’s not clear to me at all. Why anti-Semites rejoice in the excellent performance, hundreds of sorties and no losses over the past few years
    1. +9
      10 February 2018 10: 45
      I beg your pardon, not anti-Semites, but anti-Zionists, opponents of the complicity of the State of Israel to terrorists and its aggressive policy towards its neighbors.
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 11: 04
        Quote: Phoenix_Lvov
        opponents of the state of Israel's complicity with terrorists and its aggressive policy towards its neighbors.


        That is, opponents of fantasies about Israel invented by anti-Semites lol
        1. +3
          10 February 2018 11: 12
          Constant Israeli airstrikes against Syrian troops fighting against terrorists, alas, are not a fantasy, but a bitter reality...
      2. +1
        10 February 2018 11: 07
        These dear neighbors have already launched 4500 rockets at Israel and killed one and a half hundred people! With the direct complicity of the states of Iran, Syria and Lebanon. And the right to end with them!
        1. 0
          10 February 2018 11: 15
          Quote: Aspid 57
          These dear neighbors have already launched 4500 rockets at Israel and killed one and a half hundred people! With the direct complicity of the states of Iran, Syria and Lebanon. And the right to end with them!

          It was in vain that they left air defense to the “dear neighbors”; matches are not a toy for children, they are children. In general, Lieberman warned the ophthalmologist, as they say, now let him get out of it himself. Let's stock up on popcorn.
    2. +1
      10 February 2018 11: 15
      Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
      It’s not clear to me at all. Why anti-Semites rejoice in the excellent performance, hundreds of sorties and no losses over the past few years

      Azerbaijan doesn’t understand this...you’re friends with Israel, like...? How many UAV combat missions have you had?
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 16: 25
        Vitalka Reconnaissance missions of our UAVs do not stop.
        we watch around the clock
  53. 0
    10 February 2018 10: 43
    Bravo, it was high time to bring down the infuriated aggressors - the accomplices of ISIS!
  54. +7
    10 February 2018 10: 44
    Quote: The same Lech
    Go CZ00

    C-125
    There are already proofs on the Israeli resource:
  55. +1
    10 February 2018 10: 44
    response for su25 and one hundred musicians on the eastern bank
    1. 9PA
      0
      10 February 2018 11: 27
      Jews, tell me why you don’t use f 35?
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 18: 19
        So as not to tarnish his reputation. Otherwise, it will be more difficult for dance to sell him.
  56. +3
    10 February 2018 10: 47
    Quote: Moskovit
    Israel received a punch on the nose, but its defenses were not greatly affected. Now there will be some kind of response in the form of missile strikes or massive bombing...

    Already. The suburbs of Damascus are being bombed.
  57. +5
    10 February 2018 10: 49
    I, too, in the morning when I read in RIA Novosti, I immediately thought there would be at least 400 comments, and before the death of Roman Filippov, I also often swore on the site, received bans and waited for them to finally knock down some F ////, but when did it happen to us woe, the Israelites did not gloat! We need to remain people, and not rejoice like pot-heads. They shot down and shot down, it’s good that the pilots were lucky and they reached their own, but if they had to jump over Syria and God forbid in an area with bearded people...
    1. +9
      10 February 2018 11: 05
      Our pilot fought against the bearded ones. The Israeli pilot fought with those who are against bearded people. That's the whole story.
    2. 0
      10 February 2018 11: 06
      I completely agree! I also don’t see a single reason to gloat.
  58. +1
    10 February 2018 10: 55
    I'm waiting for unanswered questions to the Israeli General Staff.
  59. ADT
    +11
    10 February 2018 11: 03
    Feel the difference !
    After the downing of the SU-25 by one of those “Needles” that you give to cannibals, how many Israelis here wrote “finally the wait!” - not a single one. But how many hoopoes - “humanitarians” - you have there were excited by a happy squeal. People, you're going out.
    1. +3
      10 February 2018 11: 08
      Yes, how many of your weapons were found among terrorists, this time and again there is no video of Israel ever firing missiles at ISIS!
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 11: 46
        Quote: Alexander War
        Yes, how many of your weapons were found among terrorists, this time and again there is no video of Israel ever firing missiles at ISIS!


        Give us here evidence that Israeli weapons and others were found on the terrorists.

        Stop writing made-up things already.

        1. +3
          10 February 2018 11: 57
          There are photos and you can Google them yourself
      2. ADT
        +1
        10 February 2018 11: 55
        Never found it. We found only fakes on the Internet on this topic. All tanks or aircraft that were damaged or destroyed in this complex conflict can thank Soviet, or American, or Russian weapons. It seems that “Milan” still showed up somewhere. Israeli weapons - not a single sample.
    2. +2
      10 February 2018 11: 15
      Your country is fighting on the side of those very cannibals to whom, according to your version, we “gave the Needles.”
      1. ADT
        0
        10 February 2018 11: 59
        I didn’t write that it was you who gave them the needles, but there is a place there where weapons that are easily obtained, but very dangerous for everyone, are passed around without any problems.
    3. +1
      10 February 2018 11: 19
      Well, why not mock? The pilot is alive - this is the most important thing, and you still have four hundred and more aircraft, no big deal. In the case of the SU-25, the pilot died - this is a big difference.
      1. ADT
        0
        10 February 2018 12: 00
        The pilot suffered a severe burn and his condition worsened.
        1. +3
          10 February 2018 12: 03
          there was nothing about this, all reasonable Russians wish the pilot a speedy recovery, your medicine is excellent, we hope they can handle it
    4. +1
      10 February 2018 11: 43
      I support!!! It's kind of disgusting...that's why
      1. ADT
        0
        10 February 2018 12: 18
        Thank you.
        Good luck to you in your good deeds, of course.
    5. 0
      10 February 2018 12: 18
      Quote: ADT
      After shooting down an SU-25 with one of those “Needles” that you give to cannibals

      Where does the information come from that Igloy?
      Quote: ADT
      But how many hoopoes - “humanitarians” - you have there were excited by a happy squeal.

      Yes, the gloating is unnecessary, it reminds me.
      1. ADT
        +1
        10 February 2018 12: 39
        From here - http://fakty.ua/257470-rossijskij-su-25-sbili-iz-
        rossijskogo-zhe-pzrk---friz Although the site is of course Ukrainian.
        But there seemed to be someone’s unit allied with Russia on the spot, they probably knew what kind of MANPADS they were, but they were silent, that’s also an argument.
        Although, of course, nothing has been officially stated anywhere, so there is no certainty here.
    6. +1
      10 February 2018 15: 20
      Quote: ADT
      After the downing of the SU-25 by one of those “Needles” that you give to cannibals, how many Israelis here wrote “finally the wait!” - not a single one.

      And you go through your resources - there is a ton of gloating, and a meager amount of sympathy.
  60. 0
    10 February 2018 11: 03
    Quote: professor
    Technically possible. for example, to claim that a drone has fallen, to cordon off territory, to evacuate kibbutzniks, etc. Introduce a law prohibiting the disclosure of losses in "peacetime". Not for me to teach you.

    I don’t agree with you, now at the moment people post everything on social networks....unless you immediately turn off the Internet
  61. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 04
    If it is true that the F-16 was shot down by the Syrians, then it’s time to end the Syrian air defense system! Or maybe Assad himself, the ayatollah’s litter! I don’t recognize Israel...why are they chewing snot?
    1. +10
      10 February 2018 11: 08
      So maybe sign up to volunteer after Assad is gone? Many have already finished. Lying in ditches in the desert.
    2. +7
      10 February 2018 11: 16
      Isn’t it time to put an end to the statements of people like you, propagandists of an aggressive war?
    3. +2
      10 February 2018 12: 07
      They had every right to shoot down a plane that was attacking Syrian territory, even though it was over Israeli territory. I think in the event of an attack by Russia from the territory of a neighboring state, you will have no doubt about a retaliatory strike.
    4. 0
      10 February 2018 12: 44
      and what did the Syrian air defense and Assad do wrong to you?
  62. +3
    10 February 2018 11: 06
    I just don’t understand why Israel bombs Syrian troops and targets, and not terrorists, because if Israel bombed terrorists, the war would have ended long ago.
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 11: 39
      ISIS terrorists (not attacking Israel) are fighting with HEZBALLAH terrorists who have already launched 4500 missiles at Israel! There is no one there except terrorists! And behind all the terrorist attacks in Russia, Arab ears stick out! But in Russia no one cares about this! But washing away the Soviet shame of 1967, 1973 and 1982 is sacred! There's no harm in dreaming!
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 15: 23
        Quote: Aspid 57
        And behind all the terrorist attacks in Russia, Arab ears stick out!

        Stop spewing poison here, the ears sticking out are Anglo-Saxon and not Arab at all
  63. ADT
    0
    10 February 2018 11: 08
    In this case, two things are important:
    Not a single pilot was killed or captured.
    The Ministry of Defense acknowledged the downing of the plane by Syrian air defense. , without any cartoons with game logos.
    1. +3
      10 February 2018 12: 16
      The Ministry of Defense admitted the downing only after the information was leaked to the media. Your Ministry of Defense initially reported that it was a technical malfunction. As for whether he died or not, it is not yet clear, there are already photographs, but if the pilot had been captured on the territory of his own country, it would have been at least strange.
      1. ADT
        0
        10 February 2018 12: 58
        So only from the Moscow Region could information come. There was no time for the “percolation” process. We sorted it out, went down the chain to whose job it was to communicate with the media, and announced it. And to say “for technical reasons” is almost a standard click of ministerial ties with the media until specific instructions reach them.
  64. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 09
    I looked at the statistics in the Israeli press, because they asked for it a long time ago.
    Strikes on Syria in 2013-2018 carried out by the IDF:
    2013 - 5
    2014 - 3
    2015-16
    2016 - 21
    2017 - 27
    2018 - 5
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 11: 23
      Quote: thinker
      Strikes on Syria in 2013-2018 carried out by the IDF:
      2013 - 5
      2014 - 3
      2015-16
      2016 - 21
      2017 - 27
      2018 - 5

      good performance. Well, for one broken one they give two unbroken ones. Proverb. The main thing is that the pilots are alive.
  65. +11
    10 February 2018 11: 15
    The comments talk about the professionalism of Israeli pilots. Maybe they are professionals, but who checked their professionalism? To launch a missile from an airplane over foreign territory that does not have its own air defense, and towards a third state (like a stab in the back, for some reason I remember Judas, who betrayed Christ), is this really professionalism? The Americans dropped bombs on Japanese cities in 1945 - is this professionalism? Most likely, we can talk about professional murder. Truly Judas-style air attacks on Syria...
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 11: 26
      Quote: Evgenijus
      The comments talk about the professionalism of Israeli pilots. Maybe they are professionals, but who checked their professionalism?

      and what not?
      Quote: Evgenijus
      Launch a missile from an airplane over foreign territory that does not have its own air defense, and towards a third state

      Has the card been opened recently? This “foreign territory” of Lebanon is essentially occupied by pro-Iranian Hezbollah and is used as an ammunition depot.
      Quote: Evgenijus
      does not have its own air defense

      from today, Syria’s air defense will actually decrease.
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 11: 51
        Yes, the supporters of Judas are multiplying, even in VO...
  66. ADT
    +2
    10 February 2018 11: 15
    Miracles in the digital world - my first comment disappeared immediately! I'll try to repeat it in a softer form.
    FEEL THE DIFFERENCE !
    When the SU-25 was shot down by one of those “NEEDLES” that you give to cannibals, how many Israelis wrote something like “finally the wait!” - NOT ONE!
    But how many assholes - “philanthropists” here were excited by joyful squeals. You people are deteriorating (spiritually).
    1. +6
      10 February 2018 11: 22
      calm down, your pearl has not disappeared, I even answered it
      1. ADT
        +1
        10 February 2018 11: 56
        Saw. Please remove the second take. Why weigh down the branch?
  67. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 17
    Quote: Moskovit
    Our pilot fought against the bearded ones. The Israeli pilot fought with those who are against bearded people. That's the whole story.

    Russia is fighting on foreign territory, seeking economic benefits in order to ensure sales to Gazprom and prevent Kuwait from laying a gas pipeline through Syria.
    Israel is fighting on its territory for its existence, for the lives of the population....
    Do you understand the difference...to fight and die for profits or for the lives of the population??
    1. +5
      10 February 2018 11: 38
      Everyone is already tired of this nonsense about Kuwait and the gas pipeline, come up with something else. They didn’t let the “Igil flood” come true.
      Russia is also fighting for the lives of its citizens. Maybe you forgot about the monstrous terrorist attacks in Russia. I remember. And how much was prevented... and what would have happened if the backbone of ISIS had been broken.
    2. 0
      10 February 2018 12: 17
      Quote: alta
      Quote: Moskovit
      Our pilot fought against the bearded ones. The Israeli pilot fought with those who are against bearded people. That's the whole story.

      Russia is fighting on foreign territory, seeking economic benefits in order to ensure sales to Gazprom and prevent Kuwait from laying a gas pipeline through Syria.
      Israel is fighting on its territory for its existence, for the lives of the population....
      Do you understand the difference...to fight and die for profits or for the lives of the population??

      It turns out that the suburbs of Damascus are your territory? So you lie blatantly to your face and don’t blush. ...
    3. 0
      10 February 2018 12: 49
      Is it Jerusalem or the Golan Heights its own territory?
  68. +4
    10 February 2018 11: 18
    [quote=professor][quote=Same LEKHA]Go S-Z00
    here some Jews decided that they were immortal and unattainable for the Arabs... as we see, even an old woman can get screwed.[/quote]
    The answer is not long in coming. The eye doctor will sit in the bunker for a long time like his friend Nasral.

    [quote=Zyablitsev]Yes, yes! A kosher plane flew in a foreign sky...[/quote]
    In his, dear, in his. Do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner.

    And I see you, brave and prepared, decided to fight with the entire Arab world? Then take everyone under arms, I have many who live in Israel. Higher education is practically only available through the army. The answer? This is how you want to do it, bring the army into action. Great guys, you will get it from all sides, the Syrian army is well armed, the Iranians too, your allies have armed the terrorists. Bombing would also be nice, I don’t think you will send pilots abroad again, even if they start bombing real fanatics. It's clear that you don't like your surroundings. Religious fanatics and paramilitary associations, terrorist attacks, shelling of cities... You are against Iranian bases in Syria, okay. And when your allies brought Syria to the point where the question of its survival arose, and they extended a hand to your enemies to fight against completely repulsed religious fanatics. Why didn’t you help Syria so that ISIS enclaves or Iranian bases would not form on its territory? Does this mean that you were satisfied with the story of a story when a completely secular country, even if it does not feel love for you, turns into a huge territory of ruins occupied by groups of radical militants. They would probably only act in defense of you, and the peace treaty would be eternal. Or what should have happened when Assad was defeated, a new civil war broke out, when your puppets were installed on the throne? They shot down a plane, I hope your military will learn a lesson and will shoot missiles in their airspace, because you will anyway... It’s good that the pilots survived. And your sarcasm about all sorts of things happens, it also falls on you, I personally don’t understand. Does it really bother you that it was your people who were shot down, or the fact that your equipment was destroyed? I just don’t see it from the Urals, you can clarify for me as a person who lives close to the events. Otherwise, my friends don’t get in touch very often, but asking my ex to find out how she’s doing there and what’s going on in Israel, because it’s interesting, it’s somehow out of the question.
  69. 0
    10 February 2018 11: 20
    Quote: igorka357
    Here are all such marshals, generalissimo ... so answer, if we were invited, weren’t you asked to protect the sky? There are no double standards ... there are demarcation zones, if we were asked not to go there, the Jews agreed with the Turks ... and if you flew somewhere ... it means you can go there, or our country in the place with its commander-in-chief was bent again ... which I doubt very much! Russia in Syria is not for the people freedom and truth, well, we all understand ... the impact on BV ... no more, and that is a lot!

    What have you done here? I understood that myself. what he wrote.... And let in the fog, “Well, we all understand...” Everyone understands, but each in his own way. And if you understand that, you don’t have to count. that others also understand this way.. It’s better to say as you understand, that’s all..
  70. 0
    10 February 2018 11: 21
    I hope that in a couple of days more accurate information will appear (at what point the rendezvous between the plane and the rocket took place, its type, etc.). Unless, of course, this news (which is significant in itself) is not overshadowed by more grandiose events...
    1. +1
      10 February 2018 11: 35
      Over Israeli territory.
      Rocket S17.
  71. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 25
    The IDF press service stated that a few minutes ago, IDF combat aircraft carried out a massive attack on the Syrian air defense system.

    Iranian bases in Syria were also attacked.

    A total of 12 targets were attacked, including three Syrian air defense batteries and four Iranian bases.
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 12: 19
      It is unknown what the effectiveness will be, given that the Syrians have redeployed all their air defense.
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 12: 25
        Have you relocated all S-200s? would look at this
  72. +2
    10 February 2018 11: 30
    Quote: igorka357
    It’s rare to find literate people on the site anymore....the site has become boring!
    Yes, here there are less than half of the adequate ones! The site is moving at a brisk pace towards the bond with the “censor”!
  73. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 33
    They just announced on the army radio that the plane was shot down. Shot down while the plane was over Israeli territory!!!!!
    1. 9PA
      +2
      10 February 2018 11: 37
      Are the Golan Heights Israeli territory? Why don't you use f35?
    2. +1
      10 February 2018 11: 50
      Quote: brigadir
      They just announced on the army radio that the plane was shot down. Shot down while the plane was over Israeli territory!!!!!

      So what now..? Just be glad that the pilot is alive, demand compensation... etc.
      Maybe we can announce a musical break, guys..?
      My favorite..(in the old days..))
      1. 0
        10 February 2018 15: 08
        Mihan, you completely drank your brains away, why are you mocking??? Read articles about our downed Su-25 and what the Israelis wrote there, no one gloated
  74. 0
    10 February 2018 11: 38
    Quote: professor
    So give him in the face or answer his uncomfortable questions.

    The “bad man of Jewish-American nationality” did not ask any questions, he simply rejoiced at the death of the Russian officer. There was nothing to answer with words. And is it necessary?
    I agree - it was simply necessary to punch him in the face. However, it is simply necessary to “punch in the face” all Russian figures who persistently invite Polish-Ukrainian-American-Jewish scum on television. Honestly, these “bad people” specifically and defiantly emphasize their Jewish roots. Are they doing this on purpose? So that those listening are firmly convinced: if a person vilifies everything Russian, it means he is a Jew or a Ukrainian with Jewish roots!
    I'm sure this is not true, but... television is very convincing. And even Kovtun, after thinking about it, finds Jewish relatives.
    I am not a Judeophobe and I consider the Jewish nation to be very talented and thoughtful people... But there are limits to everything?
    Being in the company of Russian people and throwing mud at them... do not be offended if a holocaust begins against your precious and unique personality.
    1. 9PA
      +1
      10 February 2018 11: 42
      This is so that consumers buy Solovyov’s programs and hate fraternal Ukraine, Jews, Americans and see her as problems in their fatherland
    2. +2
      10 February 2018 12: 10
      The point is to punch a figurehead in the face who is specially paid to be a whipping boy.

      Read the truth about this person, what kind of “expert” he is.


      However, the effect of this figurehead is visible to you - the goal has been achieved.

      The studio couldn't find a Russian who would say the same thing? Easily. But everything was done on purpose, to reduce it to Jews and Americans.

      Especially before the elections, especially before new price increases, new reports of corruption, they use the hero of the pilot for their own purposes. They are trying to unite the people in a detailed, disgusting way.

      Well, really, for this it was necessary to raise this topic or invite a fake expert who could obviously say something bad about the deceased pilot?

      Of course, the people were indignant, Solovyov played the hero by saying that he was also a Jew (as if Jews were not anti-Semitic) and the “expert” left.

      This is all a game for the audience. Vile game.
  75. +2
    10 February 2018 11: 38
    Quote: Moskovit
    Our pilot fought against the bearded ones. The Israeli pilot fought with those who are against bearded people. That's the whole story.

    In Syria today everyone is bearded. Some are just a little more, while others are a little less. You have to understand that Israel bombed some infrastructure of the IRGC and Hezbollah in Syria. In Israel, Hezbollah is terrorists. In fairness, it must be said that now the term “terrorists” has become meaningless. Everyone and anyone began to call any separatists and/or rebels terrorists. The Jews have slightly more terrorists, all of them are Palestinians and 50% of Iranians. The Turks' terrorists are all Kurds, including women and children. crests have all the DPR/LPR militia. We have terrorists in Syria, all Syrians who are participating in the civil war against Assad... There are no good sides in this Syrian viper - there is a side that we support. Because of this, this side, with the help of the media, is appointed as the army of light.
    I don't really care about the downing of an Israeli plane, especially since the pilots are alive. But I don’t see any reason to gloat about this. Although Israel and I don’t kiss on the gums, we’re not at enmity either. Now, if the Turk was killed, I would drink on this occasion))
    1. +1
      10 February 2018 11: 45
      Assad had and still has a secular regime. Because the US and Israel sent bearded men at him, he was forced to start kissing other bearded men on the gums.
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 11: 51
        Quote: Moskovit
        Assad had and still has a secular regime. Because the US and Israel sent bearded men at him, he was forced to start kissing other bearded men on the gums.


        You are wrong. Research the issue regarding Hezbollah, Syria before the start of the Syrian Civil War.
        Syria fell under the thumb of Iran and its Hezbollah terrorists much earlier than the war in Syria.
        1. 0
          10 February 2018 11: 58
          It is clear that Syria has long been friends with Hezbollah, but there were no xior bases on its territory and Iranian generals did not travel around it like at home. Israel itself organized this, and now it is bombing, but airplanes cannot solve the problem. This is serious and for a long time.
          1. +1
            10 February 2018 12: 12
            Quote: Moskovit
            Israel organized it itself


            fool

            1. 0
              10 February 2018 12: 15
              Give yourself this smiley face. Israel pushed Syria into the abyss of civil war, so don’t let Hezbollah be surprised in its own backyard.
  76. +3
    10 February 2018 11: 42
    Quote: brigadir
    They just announced on the army radio that the plane was shot down. Shot down while the plane was over Israeli territory!!!!!
    Ну и что?
    An airplane flying peacefully over Israeli territory?
  77. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 48
    It was reported that Israel carried out 12 strikes, 3 of them against Syrian air defenses, 4 against Iranian targets in Syria.
  78. +2
    10 February 2018 11: 51
    Peycaty oborzels. They feel the support of Uncle Sam.
  79. 0
    10 February 2018 11: 56
    [quote=Bane's jacket]Just out of interest: why did you write “Orthodox icons” in capital letters? From greater knowledge?
    [/ Quote]

    The question is really not for me, but I will answer. The author can sometimes write like this about something that he considers worthy of special respect. A
    why do you ask - from greater knowledge?[/quote]
  80. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 56
    Great news, I hope not the last! More downed fighters from Israel and others like them and better colors, maybe they’ll calm down =)
  81. 0
    10 February 2018 11: 59
    Well done, no words, the Turks and the fucking coalition also need to be landed good
  82. +1
    10 February 2018 11: 59
    Quote: Moskovit
    Assad had and still has a secular regime. Because the US and Israel sent bearded men at him, he was forced to start kissing other bearded men on the gums.

    It's right. But a forced alliance with semi-terrorist and even outright terrorist Lebanese and Iranian Shiite organizations still remains an alliance, regardless of the circumstances of its conclusion. The fact is that we were late in Syria. We should have sent troops there back in 2013. But then the international situation was different and we didn’t give a damn about dragging Assad and the integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic.
    1. +1
      10 February 2018 12: 12
      Back then we were still worried about the Olympics. We trusted our Western partners. I wouldn't say we didn't care. We defended Syria from intervention and the Libyan scenario, then the militants used chemical weapons and tried to blame it on Assad, so that the United States and NATO dogs would gouge the government troops. Weapons were being supplied, the war strategy was changing, and the search for allies was underway. I think with our participation.
  83. +1
    10 February 2018 12: 00
    From the statement of the head of the press service of the Israeli army, Jonathan Konrikus:
    Massive fire from Syrian air defense

    What are the Jews supposed to do there?!????????? .... after all, Syrian air defense was not operating in Israel, but ON ITS TERRITORY...
  84. 0
    10 February 2018 12: 01
    hrych,
    Quote: hrych
    I suggest you Google it yourself, the Internet will help you

    To such stupid answers I always say - and I advise you to read Murzilka. What stopped you from “Google” before giving out unverified information? And if you are sure, should you provide a source? It turns out that you came up with everything yourself (or misinterpreted it and passed it off as truth).
    And people know how to “Google” even without your valuable advice. In this case, just write a very meaningful one-word comment: “Google it!” It doesn’t matter what it’s about, Google for us about everything will tell. And there will be meaningful comments:
    - let's Google!
    - let's Google!
    - Googled it!
    - yes, this is news!
    - Google knows!
    - And then!
    - Let's Google!
    - let's Google!
    If you have nothing to say, is it worth speaking at all?
  85. +1
    10 February 2018 12: 02
    51021
    The Israeli military attacked 12 targets in Syria during another air raid. This was reported by the Israeli army press service.
    As noted, three batteries of the SAR air defense system and four “facilities of the Iranian military presence in Syria” were attacked.

    According to the Israeli army, the raid was accompanied by massive fire from the ground, as a result of which air raid systems in northern Israel were activated.

    Earlier, Syrian television reported that the country's air defense systems repelled another Israeli strike in the skies over Damascus province. RT reports
  86. +4
    10 February 2018 12: 06
    Total:
    If the plane crashed 70 km from the border, then most of all it looks like a technical failure.
    Firstly, short- and medium-range air defense systems are not available. But the defeat of the “knocked out over Syria and pulled home” type does not work, the “sixteenth” has one engine. In case of defeat, no matter how much you plan.
    Secondly, long-range air defense systems are also in doubt. There warhead is such that crew survival is excluded.
    1. +1
      10 February 2018 12: 15
      Quote: shuravi
      But the defeat of the “knocked out over Syria and pulled home” type does not work

      Why? It wasn't necessarily the engine that was hit. The planes, hydraulic system, control system are broken. While the engine was running and the plane was more or less under control, they pulled it to the airfield. A powerful warhead missile from the S-200 could have worked with a marginal miss. The airplane was hit, but not immediately to death.
      Most likely they hit the S-200. You can’t get enough shell; the Syrians don’t have anything else that’s combat-ready
      1. +1
        10 February 2018 12: 30
        Quote: Gregory_45
        Quote: shuravi
        But the defeat of the “knocked out over Syria and pulled home” type does not work

        Why? It wasn't necessarily the engine that was hit. The planes, hydraulic system, control system are broken. While the engine was running and the plane was more or less under control, they pulled it to the airfield. A powerful warhead missile from the S-200 could have worked with a marginal miss. The airplane was hit, but not immediately to death.
        Most likely they hit the S-200. You can’t get enough shell; the Syrians don’t have anything else that’s combat-ready



        Firstly, the F-16 does not have a hydraulic system, it has an electric control system.
        Secondly, an emergency situation leading to the loss of equipment develops very quickly, in less than a minute. And you can’t last 70-100 km.
        1. +2
          10 February 2018 12: 42
          Quote: shuravi
          the F-16 does not have a hydraulic system

          Well, you really surprised me)) are all controllable surfaces really controlled by motors? EDSU assumes the absence of a direct connection between the control body and the actuator. Now think about how much force is needed to move the rudders at supersonic speed? Any modern jet aircraft has a hydraulic system.
          Don't write such nonsense anymore)
          Quote: shuravi
          an emergency situation leading to the loss of equipment develops very quickly

          is not a fact. It depends on what is affected and how. It can be different here - it can fall right away, or it can last 100-150 kilometers. As God wills. The F-16 has two hydraulic systems, primary and backup. Maybe that’s why I didn’t fail right away. Moreover, as you understand, I do not categorically assert anything, but I assume.
          1. +1
            10 February 2018 13: 24
            Quote: Gregory_45
            Quote: shuravi
            the F-16 does not have a hydraulic system

            Well, you really surprised me)) are all controllable surfaces really controlled by motors? EDSU assumes the absence of a direct connection between the control body and the actuator. Now think about how much force is needed to move the rudders at supersonic speed? Any modern jet aircraft has a hydraulic system.
            Don't write such nonsense anymore)


            You write nonsense. The F-16 does not have a hydraulic system in its classical expression. There are two subsystems that ensure the operation of the ESDU actuators. And as far as I remember, the latter are being replaced with electric amplifiers.

            is not a fact. It depends on what is affected and how. It can be different here - it can fall right away, or it can last 100-150 kilometers. As God wills. The F-16 has two hydraulic systems, primary and backup. Maybe that’s why I didn’t fail right away. Moreover, as you understand, I do not categorically assert anything, but I assume.


            This is precisely what is stupid. If hydraulic systems are damaged due to high fluid pressure, an emergency situation develops in less than a minute.
            1. 0
              10 February 2018 13: 40
              learn materiel. And carefully read your interlocutor
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 14: 08
                Quote: Gregory_45
                learn materiel. And carefully read your interlocutor



                Are you an aviation specialist to say this?
                1. +1
                  10 February 2018 14: 30
                  Have you conducted an investigation and accurately determined the cause of the plane crash? No? Then what are you proving to me?
                  Quote: shuravi
                  The F-16 does not have a hydraulic system in its classical expression. There are two subsystems that ensure the operation of the ESDU actuators.

                  Actually, did I express myself incorrectly somehow? Or did you just misunderstand?
                  EDSU assumes the absence of direct connection with the controls (as in the case of cable wiring). There are sensors that transmit electrical signals to the control unit, which already decides which hydraulic valve to use. In any case, the control surfaces are directly driven by hydraulic cylinders. And they are powered not by the holy spirit, but by the hydraulic system. The engine is running. the hydraulic pump pumps the slurry. On the F-16, the gun even has a hydraulic drive - and you are here for us
                  Quote: shuravi
                  the F-16 does not have a hydraulic system

                  And boast
                  Quote: shuravi
                  Are you an aviation specialist to say such a thing?
                  not worth it. Not an aviation one, but I know how electric-hydraulic drives work.
                  1. +1
                    10 February 2018 17: 48
                    Quote: Gregory_45


                    Have you conducted an investigation and accurately determined the cause of the plane crash? No? Then what are you proving to me?


                    I named the most likely scenario. You are trying to prove something to me.


                    Actually, did I express myself incorrectly somehow? Or did you just misunderstand?
                    EDSU assumes the absence of direct connection with the controls (as in the case of cable wiring). There are sensors that transmit electrical signals to the control unit, which already decides which hydraulic valve to use. In any case, the control surfaces are directly driven by hydraulic cylinders. And they are powered not by the holy spirit, but by the hydraulic system. The engine is running. the hydraulic pump pumps the slurry. On the F-16, the gun even has a hydraulic drive - and you are here for us


                    You just don't understand the specifics and are confused.

                    Not an aviation one, but I know how electric-hydraulic drives work.


                    Then don’t try to lecture those who understand this. As well as putting forward your own versions.
                    1. 0
                      10 February 2018 18: 53
                      Quote: shuravi
                      You are trying to prove something to me.

                      Is it true? I - to prove it to you? Were there no Hans Christians in your family? If you yourself are not trained to read, then you will have to repeat the quotes:
                      Quote: Gregory_45
                      is not a fact. It depends on what is affected and how. Moreover, as you understand, I do not categorically assert anything, but I assume.

                      Quote: shuravi
                      Then don’t try to lecture those who understand this.

                      God forbid. Where did I teach you, a respected specialist who believes that the F-16 does not have a hydraulic system?
                      It’s you who likes to read notations and categorically declare
                      Quote: shuravi
                      The emergency situation develops very quickly, in less than a minute. And you can’t last 70-100 km anymore

                      I consider further dispute with you to have not the slightest constructive meaning. Let's stick to your version - "he fell on his own"
            2. 0
              10 February 2018 14: 44
              Quote: shuravi
              If hydraulic systems are damaged due to high fluid pressure, an emergency situation develops in less than a minute

              were shut-off valves invented by underpants? Well, in order to lose all the liquid in one fell swoop? Damn, even in road construction equipment there are valves that de-energize the branch when the hose breaks (when the pressure drops).
              And still
              Quote: Gregory_45
              read your interlocutor carefully

              Quote: Gregory_45
              I do not categorically assert anything, but I assume.

              Boeings landed with a section of the rudder inoperative due to the failure of part of the hydraulic system. And there was a lot more. You are very categorical and categorical - “this cannot be because I think so.”
              If one hydraulic system fails, the boosters continue to operate from a backup hydraulic system, with less efficiency. The situation might not have developed quickly at all, but other factors might have been added. Without conducting a thorough investigation, nothing can be said
              1. +1
                10 February 2018 16: 02
                Quote: Gregory_45

                were shut-off valves invented by underpants? Well, in order to lose all the liquid in one fell swoop? Damn, even in road construction equipment there are valves that de-energize the branch when the hose breaks (when the pressure drops).


                Flow limitation valves are installed only on secondary branches. In the roll and height channels, there is no point in them.


                Boeings landed with a section of the rudder inoperative due to the failure of part of the hydraulic system. And there was a lot more. You are very categorical and categorical - “this cannot be because I think so.”
                If one hydraulic system fails, the boosters continue to operate from a backup hydraulic system, with less efficiency. The situation might not have developed quickly at all, but other factors might have been added. Without conducting a thorough investigation, nothing can be said


                Once again, are you an aviation specialist?
                1. 0
                  10 February 2018 16: 44
                  Quote: shuravi
                  Once again, are you an aviation specialist?

                  If you were an aircraft engineer, would this give you the right to talk nonsense and would it have weight? And authoritatively declare that
                  Quote: shuravi
                  the F-16 does not have a hydraulic system
                  ?
                  Well, since other versions are not considered a priori, we will assume that the cigarette lighter exploded. Or "he fell on his own"
                  hi
  87. +4
    10 February 2018 12: 10
    “The music didn’t play for long, the guy didn’t dance for long.”
    IDF strikes Syria's largest air force base
    Al-Jazeera reports that the IDF attacked the largest Syrian air force base - the T4 military airport in Homs province.

    The airport's control tower was destroyed as a result of the strike.

    As a result of the attacks, the airport was disabled.

    The IDF launched a massive attack on Syria's air defense system
    The IDF press service stated that a few minutes ago, IDF combat aircraft carried out a massive attack on the Syrian air defense system.

    Iranian bases in Syria were also attacked.

    A total of 12 targets were attacked, including three Syrian air defense batteries and four Iranian bases.

    Next time they, the children of Assad, will think not only in their lower butts.
    1. +3
      10 February 2018 12: 44
      Quote: MadCat
      “The music didn’t play for long, the guy didn’t dance for long.”
      IDF strikes Syria's largest air force base
      Al-Jazeera reports that the IDF attacked the largest Syrian air force base - the T4 military airport in Homs province.

      The airport's control tower was destroyed as a result of the strike.

      As a result of the attacks, the airport was disabled.

      The IDF launched a massive attack on Syria's air defense system
      The IDF press service stated that a few minutes ago, IDF combat aircraft carried out a massive attack on the Syrian air defense system.

      Iranian bases in Syria were also attacked.

      A total of 12 targets were attacked, including three Syrian air defense batteries and four Iranian bases.

      Next time they, the children of Assad, will think not only in their lower butts.

      Malice and revenge, Israel will lead to another collapse.... After all, there are Russians in Syria! You Jews clearly don’t understand something about the political situation, even here on the site.. negative Do you rely on your financial lobbies in all countries..? Oh well ..
      Then don't whine.. negative
      1. +2
        10 February 2018 13: 05
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Malice and revenge, Israel will lead to another collapse.... After all, there are Russians in Syria! You Jews clearly don’t understand something in the political situation, even here on the site.. negative Do you rely on your financial lobbies in all countries..? Oh well ..
        Then don't whine..negative

        Mihan, don’t pretend to be a political instructor, you’re not smart enough. negative
        1. 0
          10 February 2018 15: 20
          Quote: MadCat
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Malice and revenge, Israel will lead to another collapse.... After all, there are Russians in Syria! You Jews clearly don’t understand something in the political situation, even here on the site.. negative Do you rely on your financial lobbies in all countries..? Oh well ..
          Then don't whine..negative

          Mihan, don’t pretend to be a political instructor, you’re not smart enough. negative

          This is the third time I’ve tried to answer you and everyone is blocking...hehe I can tell!
    2. 0
      10 February 2018 13: 05
      Well, let's look at the real results of this bombing...
  88. 0
    10 February 2018 12: 15
    very interesting to see the response
  89. 0
    10 February 2018 12: 15
    Quote: Moskovit
    Everyone is already tired of this nonsense about Kuwait and the gas pipeline, come up with something else. They didn’t let the “Igil flood” come true.
    Russia is also fighting for the lives of its citizens. Maybe you forgot about the monstrous terrorist attacks in Russia. I remember. And how much was prevented... and what would have happened if the backbone of ISIS had been broken.

    This is the answer to: Russia is fighting on foreign territory, seeking economic benefits in order to ensure sales to Gazprom and prevent Kuwait from laying a gas pipeline through Syria.
    [/ I]
    I don’t think that Colonel General Ivashov said nonsense:
    ,, ...competitors from Iran and Russia wanted to prevent the construction of the Qatari gas pipeline through Syria, which would sharply reduce their share in the gas market. ,,
    [I]

    http://gordonua.com/news/worldnews/rossiyskiy-gen
    eral-priznal-chto-rf-voyuet-v-sirii-chtoby-obespe
    chit-sbyt-gazpromu-v-evropu-153498.html
    1. 0
      10 February 2018 13: 38
      Respecting Leonid Grigorievich, I hasten to remind you that he has been retired since 2001. Moreover, they sent him there ahead of schedule. Therefore, this is only his personal opinion. It’s strange that you refer to him, because he has been noted more than once, to put it mildly, not with love for the Jewish people)).
  90. +1
    10 February 2018 12: 41
    There are so many comments (currently 507) that there’s nowhere to squeeze it in. I just didn’t understand whether the Syrians were hit, or whether the Israelis ejected out of fright when they saw smoke and flames in their direction. soldier
  91. +5
    10 February 2018 12: 43
    Of course, it’s a pity for the plane, but the most important thing is that the pilots are alive and at home. And the Syrians can be congratulated on the non-ferrous metal warehouse that suddenly formed after Israeli retaliatory strikes.
  92. +1
    10 February 2018 12: 47
    They write that S-125
  93. +2
    10 February 2018 12: 50
    Quote: Tiras
    In a strange house, there are terrorists whom the owner has sheltered.
    The owner has been warned many times - you will help terrorists, you will answer.

    A small analogy to make it clear.
    Let's say a relative comes to visit you and stays in your apartment.
    However, your neighbor suddenly and decisively announced on all corners that your relative is a murderer and rapist, you are helping him by providing him with housing, and must answer accordingly.
    Then your neighbor starts breaking the windows in your apartment, destroying your property, trying to get to you.
    On the sole basis that HE DECIDED that you and your relative are dangerous.
    How do you like this situation?
    And here we are talking about countries, and specifically about Israel. Accordingly, exactly one tactic, favored by this country, is used - as much as possible to accuse the country destined for destruction of all possible sins, as monstrously and cynically as possible, to “dehumanize” it as much as possible. And then, supposedly forced, to begin its destruction.
    This is what Hitler and his comrades did in relation to the USSR, and this is what the United States now wants to do in relation to Russia. And of course, as the main ideologist of this approach, Israel does this in relation to its neighbors.
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    1. +1
      10 February 2018 13: 21
      Quote: syndicalist
      Al-Jazeera reports that the IDF attacked the largest Syrian air force base - the T4 military airport in Homs province. As a result of the attacks, the airport was disabled.

      Well done!
      Quote: syndicalist
      The IDF launched a massive attack on Syria's air defense system.
      Iranian bases in Syria were also attacked.

      Well done too..hehe
      Quote: syndicalist
      A total of 12 targets were attacked, including three Syrian air defense batteries and four Iranian bases.
      Due to the outbreak of hostilities, Ben Gurion Airport is completely closed.
      Aircraft arrivals and departures have been stopped.

      Allah Akbar ! The downed Jewish F-16 was worth it..Now you won’t be able to repel homemade pipes..War is war! hi Go Arabs!
  95. +4
    10 February 2018 12: 54
    Quote: Gregory_45
    Quote: shuravi
    But the defeat of the “knocked out over Syria and pulled home” type does not work

    Why? It wasn't necessarily the engine that was hit. The planes, hydraulic system, control system are broken. While the engine was running and the plane was more or less under control, they pulled it to the airfield. A powerful warhead missile from the S-200 could have worked with a marginal miss. The airplane was hit, but not immediately to death.
    Most likely they hit the S-200. You can’t get enough shell; the Syrians don’t have anything else that’s combat-ready

    Judging by the fact that one of the pilots received burns, a shrapnel damaged the gas tank and this led to a fire on the way back. That's why they ejected.
    1. +2
      10 February 2018 13: 29
      Quote: Netzah Netzah

      Judging by the fact that one of the pilots received burns, a shrapnel damaged the gas tank and this led to a fire on the way back. That's why they ejected.


      Firstly, what kind of gas tank does it contain kerosene?
      Secondly, read about the location of the tanks on the F-16.
      Thirdly, the fire is developing rapidly, such a distance cannot be extended.
  96. +9
    10 February 2018 13: 01
    Quote: Rogue1812
    We celebrate a national holiday on the site in this regard.

    Dear Tramp, the national holiday can be explained, among other things, by the behavior of some forum members flying the Israeli flag. How many times the Professor flaunted such flights and their complete impunity, asking where the Pantsiri were, and all the other Syrian air defense equipment sucked. You shouldn’t provoke, there won’t be such a reaction. The pilots are alive, that's good. Wishing the wounded a speedy recovery.
  97. +2
    10 February 2018 13: 01
    In Israel they are probably indignant: “What are we for?”
    1. +2
      10 February 2018 13: 06
      They will focus on the fact that the plane crashed on Israeli territory! The insidious Syrians shot down a peacefully flying F-16, which had already bombed Syria and posed no threat!
  98. 0
    10 February 2018 13: 18
    Dead duck,
    It's boring about Iran. You can also annihilate
  99. +2
    10 February 2018 13: 26
    Even if Israel destroys Syrian air defense, Russian air defense will remain. A strike on Russia means a massive missile strike on Israel, and I’m not talking about nuclear missiles. We need to shoot down as many Israeli planes as possible that are flying into Syrian airspace. But don’t go into the airspace claimed by Israel either. Even in Golan, you first need to win on the main territory.
  100. +1
    10 February 2018 13: 30
    Quote: myrzilka
    I also don’t feel much reverence for God’s chosen ones in connection with the latest events in Syria. But Arabs are not white and fluffy. For both of them, money comes first.

    They have more in common than differences. After all, historically neighboring tribes :-). Only the Jews were forced by conditions to learn the lessons of discipline, self-organization and survival...
    Russia is involved in Syria, in fact, also on global financial issues...

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