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Lost Olympiad

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Yes, exactly: the Olympiad has just begun, and Russia has already lost it.

Olympic politics

Sport outside politics is a fairy tale for handicapped preschool children. The first olympiads were already marked by political demarches: in 1908, in London, at the opening ceremony, the team of the Grand Duchy of Finland (which was part of the Russian Empire) refused to go under the Russian flag and passed without a flag in general, while the Americans passing the royal box, contrary to tradition, did not lower their state flag: "This flag does not fall before the monarch!"

But the Germans really made the political games in 1936. At the Berlin Olympics, every success of German athletes, every medal they won, every record they set was interpreted as evidence of the superiority of the Aryan race, the triumph of the German spirit. (You can read about it in detail here: https://topwar.ru/38880-olimpiada-v-kogtyah-svastiki.html)

Secretive war

During the Cold War, the confrontation of the USSR and the West in sports arenas was perceived by the Soviet people, and indeed by the whole world, as a reflection of the hidden struggle of the two world systems.

Serious passions seethed somewhere, scouts staked their lives, secret service agents died in secret operations, Chinese pilots Li Xi Tsyun and Wang Yu Shin fought aerial battles with American aces - but the Soviet press kept silence. Folders with the “secret” stamp hid behind the steel doors of safes - a secret operation for that and a secret, so that only those who are supposed to know about it know about it. Only occasionally did short messages appear in newspapers “for the fulfillment of a particularly important state task to award posthumously ...”

Our common sports victories

But the newspapers wrote about the sports victories of Soviet athletes. The citizens of the USSR, who guessed that everything was not so smooth in the world, as they say in the newspapers, met them as heroes, sounded "in the hard struggle they defended the honor and glory of our state." Soviet athletes took from the people that part of the glory that the fighters of the invisible fronts did not get.

The Soviet people perceived each sporting victory as their common and in the morning the peasants happily shared their impressions: “I saw how we kicked Americans / Canadians / English yesterday?” And when the Soviet flag soared up on the mast and the “Indestructible Union ...” sounded, everyone was proud of his country and could say: "This is our victory!"

Check for lice

Today every issue News begins with a direct inclusion in Pyeongchang, telling how Russian athletes are preparing to "defend the honor of Russia."
Maybe someone has already forgotten how it all began? Then we recall.

The IOC, having made a political decision on the non-admission of the Russian Federation to the Olympic Games, left a loophole: Russian athletes can go to competitions, having publicly renounced their state. Renounce yourself - and you will be forgiven. Simple and ingenious. Let the whole world see the value of the vaunted Russian patriotism, when career and money are at stake.

Lost Olympiad


As expected, such athletes were found. The prospect of lightening up at the Olympics, on the wave of success to get invitations to famous sports clubs, to conclude contracts from advertising firms - the temptation is great, the person is weak. And it sounded "they had been preparing for so long ... an athlete has one life ..."

Russian athletes did not pass the test for lice. Salvage turned out to be stronger. And the “patriotic” monologues “may not have the flag of Russia on my uniform, but the Motherland is in my heart” is an attempt to deceive my own conscience and fans.

There are no Russian sportsmen in Pyeongchang!

The reaction of Russian officials from the sport is striking in its illogicality. Caught in a puddle, they tried to get into the mud to the ears. The athletes, who yesterday assured the country that there is no greater honor for them than to defend the colors of the Russian flag, and today they have easily refused this honor, have been declared almost as national heroes.

We are persistently persuaded to root for them, to rejoice at their successes and to support them morally in failures. Apparently, using the example of OAR (Olympic Athletes from Russia), is it planned in the future to bring up a feeling of patriotism among the younger generation?

But do not flatter yourself: are very Russian fans interested in the victories of compatriots won in the composition of foreign sports clubs and teams? In a remote Russian hinterland, a Russian man asked the correspondent whether he would watch the Olympic Games in Pyeongchang, and answered: “No. Who is there to root for? Russia is not allowed to the Games, our athletes are not there».

Predicted failure

It is predictable to expect from the Korean Olympic Games not sports successes, but failures. Deprived of sports stars, the UAR team cannot show outstanding results. We are awaited by the heartbreaking stories of the Olympians about the disdainful attitude towards the Russians by the IOC officials, about the trainings ripped off by WADA employees, about biased refereeing, etc., which prevented us from taking gold and silver in Korea.

And we still have to pity them and throw off at the consolation prizes. Maybe they will even receive awards, medals "For services to the Fatherland", although it would be better to leave them alone with their troubles, and to make the real heroes of the few who refused to go to the Olympics, but there are such, but only who remember their names?

Do you know that…

USSR before 1952 did not participate in the Olympic movement? They built Magnitka and the Dnieper, won the war and restored the country from the ruins of people who had no idea about the Olympic movement. And none of them considered it a tragedy.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 10 February 2018 06: 32
    +49
    why are gray neutrals not crawling on their knees?
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 10 February 2018 07: 42
      +55
      Like a column of prisoners of war!
      1. Alber
        Alber 10 February 2018 07: 51
        +30
        Quote: Chichikov
        Like a column of prisoners of war!

        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        why are gray neutrals not crawling on their knees?


        Sport "Mutkovsky" for the sake of dough

        It’s better to really root for the little kids who play hockey on the streets as Vard said. Although they’re not playing for money, it’s not corrupt
        1. AnpeL
          AnpeL 10 February 2018 08: 15
          +11
          Such an idea arose that it could be this way: some athletes were forced to go to the Olympics (if you can still call it that) by their own trainers who are interested in the Olympic awards no less, or even more than the athletes themselves. Under the threat of removal from sports in general, including within the country, coaches, promoters, all kinds of officials from sports and committees require their wards to comply with mock instructions regarding appearance, paraphernalia and other refusals of everything that would unite them with the Russian Federation. If the athlete wins, they will look at him as an enemy in Russia, and the coach will still be the mentor of the Olympic champion, albeit without reference to the fact that the athlete did not play for the Russian team.
          I repeat, just an assumption
      2. rkkasa xnumx
        rkkasa xnumx 10 February 2018 08: 12
        +7
        During the Cold War, the confrontation between the USSR and the West in sports arenas was perceived by Soviet people, and indeed by the whole world, as a reflection of the hidden struggle of two world systems

        Quote: Andrew Y.
        why are gray neutrals not crawling on their knees?

        Quote: Chichikov
        Like a column of prisoners of war!

        The Olympics are like a war, and the athletes are just ordinary soldiers of this war. What do you want from the rank and file if our sporting generals are coddling before the westerns, and the supreme commander mumbles something unintelligible? Ordinary fighters of the sports front only carry out the orders of their commanders. And enough of them already wash for it.

        The Soviet Union could afford to send everyone away, but Russia cannot. And athletes are the last to blame.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 10 February 2018 09: 57
          +34
          Quote: rkkasa 81
          and does the supreme commander mumble something unintelligible? Ordinary fighters of the sports front only carry out the orders of their commanders. And enough of them already wash for it.
          The Supreme Commander would rather be silent than to change his mind like this for a couple of months
          1. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 10 February 2018 12: 31
            +11
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            The Supreme Commander would rather be silent than to change his mind like this for a couple of months

            That's right.
            Although the herd does not care anyway, it’s better to spoil the athletes. And the leaders of the country who sent these athletes to the Olympics will have nothing to do with it.
            1. Victor N
              Victor N 10 February 2018 18: 37
              +8
              Everyone is obliged to have honor, to preserve the honor of the country - "business athletes have no honor. The masses need spectacles - forbid power to travel - howling would be .... But it is impossible to legally forbid. So they gave us the opportunity to decide for ourselves (lice check).
              1. rkkasa xnumx
                rkkasa xnumx 13 February 2018 07: 11
                +1
                Quote: Victor N
                forbid the trip power - howl would be ....

                Maybe. And what's so terrible about this howl?
                It turns out that the Chief was afraid of some howling, and sent the athletes to the Olympics. But guilty of this all the same, "traitor athletes" who have no honor. Your logic is strange.
                Quote: Victor N
                gave you the opportunity to decide for yourself (check for lice)

                No. They gave the command to go to the Olympics.
          2. 82т11
            82т11 10 February 2018 21: 30
            +7
            If Putin had become in a pose and said that we don’t go to the Olympics all these “sportsmen” would have raised a howl about how badly they are living in Russia), so he wagged to the side saying “do what you want (Damn, and also call yourself a national leader ((
            1. Foxmara
              Foxmara 11 February 2018 05: 06
              +4
              Not the king and not the emperor. Gave a choice. He promised to support those who will go and who will not go. The performance is not over yet. Conclusions will be made later and without emotion. bully
              It was precisely the expectation of failure that was expected from us, and they did everything for this. Then believe me, howling would be not only in Russia. But GDP never makes the expected moves.
              What do you have with grammar, where did you come up with such words? Even in the 6th grade, they don’t write like that.
              1. 82т11
                82т11 11 February 2018 20: 18
                +1
                I am writing from the cell)
                Yes, and it's hard to find words without a mat)
        2. Kazakh
          Kazakh 10 February 2018 10: 11
          +10
          Quote: rkkasa 81
          Ordinary fighters of the sports front only carry out the orders of their commanders. And enough of them already wash for it.

          In Buchenwald, orders were simply followed. Do you also need to wash them?
          1. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 10 February 2018 12: 15
            +1
            Quote: Kazakh
            Quote: rkkasa 81
            Ordinary fighters of the sports front only carry out the orders of their commanders. And enough of them already wash for it.
            In Buchenwald, orders were simply followed. Do you also need to wash them?

            And OI, is it Buchenwald?
      3. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 10 February 2018 09: 55
        +15
        Quote: Chichikov
        Like a column of prisoners of war!

        Exactly, they would have allowed watering from behind, for entourage negative
      4. antivirus
        antivirus 10 February 2018 10: 46
        +5
        no prisoners
        WOULD YOU LOOK BETTER 2010 AND BEFORE (SALT LAKE CITY) --- THERE RILI. "Turin, in Europe, will not condemn us"
        AND Humbly Waited to "fit into the world community"
        Kolobkov and MuTko will not be saved

        only the number of participants of the “Leather Ball” and the Golden Puck will break the WADA ridge
      5. Dr_Mad_71
        Dr_Mad_71 11 February 2018 01: 52
        +6
        Not prisoners of war, but traitors!
      6. Dmitriy84
        Dmitriy84 12 February 2018 08: 11
        +3
        A white scarf is like a white flag. And gray robe suits.
    2. Finches
      Finches 10 February 2018 07: 44
      +49
      Personally, I made a decision for myself - I do not watch the Olympics! I’m not interested in the news from Pyeongchang in any way ... I understand that the IOC and the State Department were waiting for such a decision from the GDP - to boycott the Olympics, to inflate a grand scandal, including accusing Putin of despotism, etc., but the President did quite an adroit move, let each athlete decide for himself whether to ride him or not! However, I can’t look at it and I won’t! But I know for sure that this will pass and to the West all its rot will still come back a hundredfold!
      1. Bastinda
        Bastinda 10 February 2018 08: 41
        +23
        "Small" inaccuracy in the wording. The removal of an athlete is quite common, it happens with us and with them, and none of this scandal is inflating. Russian team suspended for doping supported by state level. Hence the ban on flag and symbolism. The ban on the arrival of our officials from the sport to the Olympics (they definitely didn’t use doping laughing ).
        How simple it is, throw out one wording, add patriotism, and voila! The athletes (non-patriots) are to blame for the Olympics (bought). But Mutko received a new appointment, and Putin brilliantly maneuvered. laughing
        1. 82т11
          82т11 10 February 2018 21: 36
          +2
          Do you have a scan of the order and the law in which the government requires athletes to eat dope? If some athletes and officials were fond of doping, this is their personal initiative and not the state program!
          1. Bastinda
            Bastinda 11 February 2018 06: 30
            0
            No, of course there is no scan. The number of medals 2010, 2014 has already been given here. Compare. Further, at each Olympiad, someone is suspended for doping, samples are constantly taken from all athletes of this level. And now, a significant part of the athletes decides! What dope they won’t have! And all the samples give the same drug! Amazing
            And the official, if he represents the country - then the state probably?
            1. 82т11
              82т11 11 February 2018 20: 11
              0
              Quote: Bastinda
              No, of course there is no scan. The number of medals 2010, 2014 has already been given here. Compare. Further, at each Olympiad, someone is suspended for doping, samples are constantly taken from all athletes of this level. And now, a significant part of the athletes decides! What dope they won’t have! And all the samples give the same drug! Amazing
              And the official, if he represents the country - then the state probably?


              By your logic, if an official takes bribes is this a state policy?))

              And the number of medals is not an indicator, so now any winner of the Olympic Games can be blamed for doping)
              As for the drugs in the blood, we are not Americans, so that there would be doping in every sports discipline) that the athletes got it and took it)
              But they did not accept everything, but only a small part!
              1. Bastinda
                Bastinda 12 February 2018 08: 36
                0
                But they did not accept everything, but only a small part!

                Sure? Look for the data please. I will not impose my opinion.
                For an athlete, getting caught in doping is the collapse of a sports career, and often life. And still, every Olympiad is decided by someone. But units. Look, how many of these were found with us? And was it possible, without someone saying: "Swallow, ride"? But documents of this kind are not left. (9 medals returned, 47 appeals rejected.)
                1. 82т11
                  82т11 12 February 2018 18: 33
                  +1
                  What data?)) What do you believe in WADA, the Western media, the IOC and the Swiss court?))
                  I have as much trust in them as I do on a bum on the street. Now, if I say: "What the homeless on the street told me about the state doping program." Will you believe me
                  But the fact that our officials took bribes so as not to notice how athletes take doping, I believe. I believe that athletes are ready for anything for the victory, including doping.
                  1. Bastinda
                    Bastinda 12 February 2018 19: 01
                    0
                    What data?
                    Ours, according to the number of the national team, I do not believe in the West. And think about it.
                    our officials took bribes so as not to notice how athletes take doping
                    Who gave bribes? Athletes? laughing Think!
                    1. 82т11
                      82т11 14 February 2018 14: 12
                      0
                      I think that blaming everything on officials, training and sponsors of athletes is not necessary. Everyone has their own share of guilt, the coach advised, the official turned a blind eye, and the sponsor paid. But all the athletes who took doping did this voluntarily, they did not break anyone’s hands. And such a system is everywhere, it’s just that Russia crossed the road of the USA, and they are kicking us.
                      Another question is how to distinguish who took the dope, and who then earned the medal with blood?
                      But I do not agree with your position to write down all criminals as criminals.
                      Evidence needs iron, but now the principle is
                      "Once an athlete from Russia, then he takes doping 100%"
          2. sds87
            sds87 11 February 2018 13: 15
            0
            Quote: 82т11
            If some athletes and officials were addicted to doping, this is their personal initiative not a government program!

            Are you so sure about this? Very naive opinion. Athletes depend on coaches and sponsors. As they command, so will the athletes be forced to do. Which to Mutkovykh is a personal initiative?
            1. 82т11
              82т11 11 February 2018 20: 15
              0
              I can imagine how coaches with sponsors beat an athlete with a bat and force them to take dope))
              Not expensive, this is their personal initiative, to make more money!
              And the trainer, of course, persuade them, of course, but the athlete is the last to decide!
          3. alex86
            alex86 13 February 2018 18: 50
            0
            Quote: 82т11
            this is their personal initiative

            This is your Putin’s position “from the gateway” - like, what do you prove; Not caught, not a thief; justify that you are a kid. In Ukraine, there are no people in uniform and with documents of the military personnel of the Russian Federation - which means that there is no participation of the Russian Federation - although everyone understands that it exists. Our officials do not have documents for real estate abroad - that means there is none - although everyone understands what is.
            You perfectly understand how much is being done in our country not by official order with a piece of paper, but by the principle of “there is an opinion” - as here too - of course, no one signed documents on the use of doping - but even Putin indirectly admitted that we ourselves driven themselves into this situation.
            1. 82т11
              82т11 14 February 2018 14: 15
              0
              With such logic as yours, "there is no evidence, but I'm sure" Russia can be blamed for anything, even the genocide of dinosaurs)
              PS and Putin is right that having such officials as Mutko and Rodchenko in we drove ourselves into such a situation.
            2. Nulgorod
              Nulgorod 14 February 2018 18: 39
              +1
              Quote: alex86
              Putin’s position “from the gateway” - like, what do you prove; Not caught, not a thief

              This is called the International Presumption of Innocence. If you haven’t heard, look on the Internet.
              1. alex86
                alex86 28 February 2018 21: 32
                0
                If it was a criminal process - of course. But we are talking about the country's reputation, and if the sharpie was not even caught by the hand, but everyone knows that he is a sharpie - he has such a reputation. There are no Russian troops (in uniform) in Ukraine - but everyone knows what they have (specifically, I worked for me from refugees from the Donetsk region), which means that you can expect dirty tricks from Russia in another place and at another time. They lit up in the doping history - that means they could lie before - they just didn’t catch them - and they will continue to lie, because they have not punished anyone (in particular).
                Reputation - there may be a thieves' reputation, or maybe a decent person ("but there is a nuance" wink ) - so we move to the "thieves" (yes, actually, we already have, alas).
        2. Foxmara
          Foxmara 11 February 2018 05: 12
          +5
          Quote: Bastinda
          The Russian team is suspended for the use of doping supported at the state level. Hence the ban of the flag

          You all have a topsy-turvy. There was no evidence of this. The words of a deserter, whom if he had not escaped, they would have put him here for this very doping and suspicion - that’s all there is. And the ban on the flag and the team is not because of that, but for that.
          In order to rock the situation in and around Russia. If we talk about this, then they can’t forgive this, because of the “English woman’s crap.”
          1. alex86
            alex86 28 February 2018 21: 33
            0
            Quote: Foxmara
            There was no evidence of this.

            For them there is.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 10 February 2018 09: 53
        +14
        Personally, I made a decision for myself - I do not watch the Olympics
        How do you betray your idol? Although you are ready to justify both meanness and betrayal.
        1. Finches
          Finches 10 February 2018 10: 00
          +20
          A. Who is my idol? Do not tell me? If you are hinting at Putin, then he is not my idol — for me the Supreme Commander-in-Chief for 0,5 bets earns money as the President of Russia, but as a presidential candidate the most normal and adequate man is capable of at least doing something, and not just hurting the electorate! So not confuse God's gift with fried eggs!
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 10 February 2018 10: 03
            +15
            0,5 bids moonlighting
            Well, no, no. We need a wholly-owned head of state, not part-time
            1. Finches
              Finches 10 February 2018 10: 51
              +10
              You need? 100% of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief is enough for me! But the strawberry king is more like a pea jester, only cunning and greedy! laughing
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 10 February 2018 11: 03
                +18
                Quote: Finches
                But the strawberry king is more like a pea jester, only cunning and greedy!

                Well, in greed, our leaders have no competitors.
              2. VVK_VDB
                VVK_VDB 10 February 2018 11: 37
                +28
                Amazed, Putin’s friends are dollar billionaires. At the same time, the country's GDP is at the level of 1990, and the structure of GDP is not much different from the colonial one. The achievements of the "state farm" Grudinin are before everyone's eyes. All his "wealth" does not go beyond his salary. And Grudinin is credited with what they so succeeded from Putin’s team. Can’t you see that Putin is a beautiful cover created by the media on the order of his friends? You turn the cover over, and there Chubais, on which there is no place to put the stigma, the crazy Kudrin with Gref, corrupt officials like Sechin. What kind of development can we talk about?
                1. Alf
                  Alf 10 February 2018 20: 20
                  +8
                  Quote: VVK_VDB
                  What kind of development can we talk about?

                  The growth in the number of billionaires.
                2. Stanislas
                  Stanislas 11 February 2018 13: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: VVK_VDB
                  Is Putin a beautiful cover created by the media for his friends? Turn the cover over, and there ...
                  1999: B. Berezovsky with the “Unity” bloc, which Grudinin joined, is drowned for Putin. 2000: Grudinin becomes Putin's confidant in the election. It was not until the fall of 2000 that Berezovsky realized that he (himself!) Was outplayed by some kind of KGB agent. 2018: Grudinin, and then, probably did not quite understand, and now, but he is trying not to miss his own.
              3. Dedall
                Dedall 10 February 2018 18: 26
                +5
                Zhirinovsky is more like that jester. It was ridiculous to look at how he roamed around the bazaar - for something more to swing at the poor fellow there were already no brains.
      3. basmach
        basmach 10 February 2018 10: 04
        +16
        Oh, one more "tricky move, the most universal and cunning (With the support of the best understanding) in response to a slap in the face. That head does not hurt from the slap.
        And in the war, that everyone in the trench decides to fight him under the flag of his country or throw out the white one (and thoughts about the Motherland will remain in his heart). Although some people decide better the white flag and the hope of a satisfying stew, but they are called traitors.
        What you just wrote here is an excuse for betrayal. mercenary morality. Not surprised
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 10 February 2018 13: 13
          +9
          Quote: basmach
          And in the war, that everyone in the trench decides to fight him under the flag of his country or throw out the white one (and thoughts about the Motherland will remain in the heart)

          Unfortunately, this is exactly what is happening.
          After all, Vlasovites also thought about their homeland). And the terrible NKVD officers "did not understand" the aspirations of the whole essence of the "free" man!)
      4. avt
        avt 10 February 2018 10: 40
        +10
        Quote: Finches
        Personally, I made a decision for myself - I do not watch the Olympics! I am not interested in the news from Pyeongchang in any way ...

        Aealogically. drinks
        choosing between shame and war, get both shame and war.
        Old Churchill knew what he was saying.
        1. Nulgorod
          Nulgorod 14 February 2018 18: 41
          0
          He didn’t say so: he who prefers disgrace to war will ultimately receive both disgrace and war.
      5. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 10 February 2018 10: 47
        +15
        Quote: Finches
        The president made a rather adroit move

        He is a big dodger, a "multi-way", hpp and again outplayed everyone, another "success" of foreign policy.
        1. Finches
          Finches 10 February 2018 10: 54
          +8
          I look at the kindergarten "Red Dawn" weekend laughing All the frantic wrestlers from the allegedly left with the "bloody" dictator on the pages of VO gathered!
          Good day, Stroporez hi Will you agency for the strawberry king again? Success in your hard and thankless job! laughing
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 10 February 2018 11: 10
            +14
            Hi! hi
            Quote: Finches
            I watch the day off in the kindergarten "Red Dawn" All the frantic wrestlers from the supposedly left with the "bloody" dictator on the pages of VO gathered!

            Yeah! But the adherents of the sect "cellists", again work, sympathize what
            Quote: Finches
            Will you serve for the strawberry king again? Success in your hard and thankless job

            And here we don’t even need to campaign, we will definitely win and you should have time to deploy the “sails” yes , change the tack, and then a wave of popular indignation will throw aground. wink
            1. Finches
              Finches 10 February 2018 11: 27
              +2
              I do not care, I have everything! laughing
            2. Victor N
              Victor N 10 February 2018 18: 47
              0
              Each loser wants to win the lottery and continue to mess around.
      6. Olgovich
        Olgovich 10 February 2018 11: 09
        +10
        Quote: Finches
        Personally, I made a decision for myself - I do not watch the Olympics! I am not interested in the news from Pyeongchang in any way ...

        Similarly.
        Quote: Finches
        I understand that the IOC and the State Department were waiting for exactly such a decision from the GDP - to boycott the Olympics, which would then inflate a grandiose scandal, including accusing Putin

        Russia could NOT boycott the Olympics, because it is officially for the IOC today does NOT exist.
        Invited separate Athletes personally. So they could accept the invitation or not, without any consequences for the country or themselves. They accepted, betraying their unacceptable comrades
        Quote: Finches
        The President made a rather clever move, let each athlete decide for himself whether to go or not!

        Alas, he definitely spoke out for the trip. It would be better, of course, he said the way you do.
        And let them go at their own expense. hi
      7. Karabin
        Karabin 10 February 2018 18: 11
        +20
        Quote: Finches
        including accusing Putin of despotism, etc.,

        And so do not blame? accusation more or less what role this plays. Or Putin, as a person of fine mental organization, are still injured by unnecessary accusations?
        Quote: Finches
        but the President made a rather clever move, let each athlete decide for himself whether to go or not!

        Artful move! So now called cowardice? The IOC and WADA drove primarily to the state. The head of this state, wagging stern, folded his arms over his head "I'm in the house." The athletes themselves decide.
      8. 82т11
        82т11 10 February 2018 21: 32
        +6
        It would be better if Putin was accused of despotism than we agreed to such humiliation.
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 10 February 2018 23: 41
          +3
          Quote: 82т11
          It would be better if Putin was accused of despotism than we agreed to such humiliation.

          He cannot afford such a thing; he is a true liberal, which he has repeatedly publicly stated and demonstrated. But those who listen to him hear only their dreams, which have nothing with reality, but certainly not Putin.
    3. svp67
      svp67 10 February 2018 07: 45
      +14
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      why are gray neutrals not crawling on their knees?

      Yuryevich, it seems that he is no longer a young man, but why are you talking all sorts of nonsense? If our MTR fighters, often without a banner and in a strange form, are fighting, then what should they do on their knees? Everyone has their own plot of struggle and I wish OUR athletes WINS. I know that they will be VERY EASY to get them. And stop pouring mud on them, they are now swelling for our bureaucrats, and there they are pouring all sorts of salt on their wounds ...
      And here is this statement:
      Yes, exactly: the Olympiad has just begun, and Russia has already lost it.
      says that there was still no war, and Klim Podkova IS ALREADY WHITE FLAG ready to throw out, without any resistance. How already lost.
      1. BLOND
        BLOND 10 February 2018 09: 58
        +14
        If our MTR fighters, often without a banner and in a strange form, are fighting, then what should they do on their knees?

        the neutrals are sort of our scouts abandoned behind enemy lines?
        Idiotic comparison
        "No. Who is there to root for? Russia is not allowed to the Games, our athletes are not there. ”

        At the end (note) there is a DOT
        1. svp67
          svp67 10 February 2018 18: 29
          +4
          Quote: BLOND
          At the end (note) there is a DOT

          You know, the exact same POINT was put on the lives of many people during the Second World War, saying that there were no our troops in German captivity, there are ONLY TRADERS, and people there also sought to fight the enemy, despite the stigma of TRAITORS. And then many more in our camps served ...
          Russia is now trying in every possible way to ISOLATE and we need to break through this BLOCKADE in all directions, OURS, Russian athletes are doing just that now.
          Strangers to them from foreign countries support them, realizing the stupidity of all the accusations, and they pour water on their slops. Apparently acting on the principle, beat your own, so that strangers would be afraid
          1. BLOND
            BLOND 11 February 2018 08: 25
            +6
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: BLOND
            At the end (note) there is a DOT

            You know, the exact same POINT was put on the lives of many people during the Second World War, saying that there were no our troops in German captivity, there are ONLY TRADERS, and people there also sought to fight the enemy, despite the stigma of TRAITORS. And then many more in our camps served ...
            Russia is now trying in every possible way to ISOLATE and we need to break through this BLOCKADE in all directions, OURS, Russian athletes are doing just that now.
            Strangers to them from foreign countries support them, realizing the stupidity of all the accusations, and they pour water on their slops. Apparently acting on the principle, beat your own, so that strangers would be afraid

            There is no blockade of Russia!
            There is an ordinary war against Russia and those who support it
            Why do you compare these "neutrals" with people who were captured - those who went to surrender, but they are not taken!
            Why are they not in the courts for the protection of the honor and dignity of their own country?
            Why are they not on the podium with the FLAG OF RUSSIA? Will they shoot? Or searched?
            The American was able to raise the flag of the Russian Federation, our NEUTRALS!
            Belarus at the last Olympics carried OUR FLAG, and our NEUTRALS!
            Belarusian athlete left the pedestal after hearing the anthem not of her country, but NEUTRALS BREAK THE BLOCKADE
            Our grandfathers didn’t break through like that!
          2. BLOND
            BLOND 11 February 2018 12: 25
            +1
            And at the next Olympics - to ban performing under their own names ...
            a small article by Sergei Vasiliev
            read, very affordable
            Look at the social polls of the attitude of Russians to the fact that some athletes shout that they are not neutral. And the team ... more than 80% perceive this negatively
      2. Kazakh
        Kazakh 10 February 2018 10: 07
        +12
        Quote: svp67
        If our MTR fighters, often without a banner and in a strange form, are fighting, then what should they do on their knees? Each has his own plot of struggle and I wish our athletes a victory
        The most common goals of special operations are as follows: - sabotage; - diversion; - Subversive activities Which of the above do (our) athletes do in Korea?
        1. svp67
          svp67 10 February 2018 18: 22
          +1
          Quote: Kazakh
          Which of the above do (our) athletes do in Korea?

          With their successes, they BREAK through the blockade and isolation of Russia.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 10 February 2018 18: 44
            +10
            With their successes, they BREAK through the blockade and isolation of Russia.
            How can OAR athletes break through the blockade of Russia?
            1. svp67
              svp67 10 February 2018 18: 52
              0
              Quote: Gardamir
              How can OAR athletes break through the blockade of Russia?

              By the fact that their successes show the entire contrivediness of the allegations.
              1. Sotskiy
                Sotskiy 10 February 2018 23: 54
                +4
                Quote: svp67
                By the fact that their successes show the entire contrivediness of the allegations.

                And to whom do they want to prove this?)))) Sports "workers" from other countries who will not shoot colleagues in the case of "cold"?))) Trotsky Sports International?))) And they, "colleagues in the shop "instead of the Russian Foreign Ministry and sports state functionaries of the Russian Federation, pecking their" grains "on this topic, they suddenly come out as a united front like during the German international?))) My slippers on my sofa are choked with rzhach!
                1. svp67
                  svp67 11 February 2018 00: 54
                  0
                  Quote: Sovetskiy
                  My slippers in my native sofa are choked with rzhach!

                  Well, so what is pop, such is the coming ...
                  1. Sotskiy
                    Sotskiy 11 February 2018 01: 14
                    +4
                    Quote: svp67
                    Well, so what is pop, such is the coming ...

                    That's just the ministers of worship, who are wrung out according to the law on restitution signed by your Beloved in 2010 in favor of the church, the only children's puppet theater in the city since the Soviet era, and I do not believe it! Not in ministers and not in their patron! No wonder the Bolsheviks claimed that religion is opium for the people! And it was not in vain that they organized demonstration floggings of priests on those temporary Maybachs with executions! (And how do they differ from the current "senders" of sins?) Ferrari shines without patriotism, Missiles with patriotism?)))
        2. Nehist
          Nehist 11 February 2018 03: 15
          +4
          Undermine the authority of Russia !!!
      3. Sobol
        Sobol 10 February 2018 10: 14
        +18
        Quote: svp67
        If our militia fighters

        Nonsense is your comparison. Before equalized already to insanity. To the variety buffoon, for his tricks on the stage, the reward is given the same as a soldier for a feat in battle. In fact, everything is simple. There are those (athletes) who rushed for the loot, and there are those Athletes who refused to go there because it is unacceptable for them to appear without the flag and coat of arms of their country. This is who and with whom it is necessary to compare.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 10 February 2018 18: 46
          +9
          Athletes who refused to go there because it is unacceptable for them to speak without the flag and coat of arms of their country.
          for example, here she’s not the only one, that’s what one should be proud of
      4. Olgovich
        Olgovich 10 February 2018 11: 19
        +18
        Quote: svp67
        OUR Athletes VICTORY

        OUR athletes are not allowed to scoundrels to the Games. Those who went to the Games agreed with the scoundrels, betraying the unacceptable comrades.
        This is dishonorable.
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 10 February 2018 13: 25
          +4
          Quote: Olgovich
          This is dishonorable.

          And what is it?) Are you trying to blame some moral rules for free society?)))
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 10 February 2018 09: 13
      +3
      I am convinced of one. You can only be an Olympic champion once. Well, you can’t take a golden pedestal for the same decades! Having created such rules - once a champion, the whole commercial intrigue will radically change and the number of fans will increase.
    5. moskowit
      moskowit 10 February 2018 09: 44
      +20
      This shameful phenomenon was the beginning of GorMikhSer with ElBonik, for his own benefit and dubious reputation, kissing "Uncle Sam" in the ass ... The humiliation of the Russian State is immeasurable. And it is very unfortunate that there were people who did not understand this, who went to the show, hiding behind dubious slogans. And that all this "event" is held on the money of taxpayers charged from beggarly salaries, then few people care ...
    6. Gardamir
      Gardamir 10 February 2018 09: 54
      +18
      gray neutrals are not crawling on their knees?

      but how was
      1. moskowit
        moskowit 10 February 2018 13: 40
        +23
        And it was like that ... Yuri Vlasov at the opening of the Olympics in Tokyo in 1964 carried the USSR flag on his outstretched arm, holding it by the tip of the pole ...
    7. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 10 February 2018 10: 11
      +18
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      why are gray neutrals not crawling on their knees?

      because Putin said "getting up is well."
      1. karabas86
        karabas86 10 February 2018 22: 12
        +4
        Then they should move in a pose of siu, got up and bent a little bully
    8. moskowit
      moskowit 10 February 2018 10: 42
      +4
      Yes, and they called those who came to the UAR ... Remember, that was what Egypt was called ... UAR (United Arab Republic) ... wassat
    9. karabas86
      karabas86 10 February 2018 22: 03
      +1
      And without a tsak - mess kudp pancreas looks laughing
    10. Dr_engie
      Dr_engie 13 February 2018 13: 45
      0
      Because this is only in your sore fantasies.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 February 2018 07: 08
    +4
    Every dog ​​has his day! angry
    1. svp67
      svp67 10 February 2018 07: 48
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      Every dog ​​has his day!

      Yes, NOT ONE. And each "Myshkin’s tear" is still "cast overseas cats"
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 10 February 2018 09: 16
      +6
      The disgusting precedent of the IOC to ban the national team of the Russian Federation marked the beginning of the collapse of the Olympic movement as an independent and self-organizing one.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 10 February 2018 11: 47
        +3
        sibiralt Today, 09:16 ↑ New
        The disgusting precedent of the IOC to ban the national team of the Russian Federation laid the foundation for the collapse of the Olympic movement, as an independent and self-organizing.

        It is very possible that it will be so
    3. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 10 February 2018 13: 28
      +5
      Quote: aszzz888
      Every dog ​​has his day!

      Sorry, are you hoping to live up to it? lol
    4. moskowit
      moskowit 10 February 2018 14: 43
      +5
      "... It’s a pity only - to live in this wonderful time
      I don’t have to - neither to me, nor to you ... "N.A. Nekrasov (Railway)
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 10 February 2018 19: 46
        0
        Sport has become a business, the smell of honor has disappeared. Fans are used, pumping money out of them in different ways. The state is also compelled to help this business: people, apart from bread, need spectacles. Alas, as in ancient Rome, the population is divided into plebeians and patricians. Get rid of bad habits, read, go to the theater .... Well, as a last resort, if there isn’t enough adrenaline, write a bullet!
  3. Vard
    Vard 10 February 2018 07: 18
    +12
    The Olempiada has long turned into a private shop ... Show ... I better go see how the kids play hockey ... Everything is honest ...
  4. eugraphus
    eugraphus 10 February 2018 07: 24
    +35
    If the IOC had the task of not letting Russian athletes to the Olympic Games, then they would simply not have been allowed to go there, just as the “clean” people who were justified by the court were not allowed. The task was just to humiliate, to show that Russian patriotism is worthless. And they did it all. And it’s not some loners who went there, but rushed en masse. Those who are justified are especially touched. We managed on the last plane in the hope that someone was waiting for them there.
    Few people pay attention to the fact that in relation to the removed athletes, Vlasov athletes are strikebreakers. What solidarity is there! Head around the competition. I saw mention of only one athlete who voluntarily refused to go to this coven. Like those who do not care about the Russian flag, anthem, symbols and logos are more patriots, for whom these symbols are not an empty phrase.
    I think that the next step will be the adoption by Russian athletes of foreign citizenship. And under the same excuses that they really love their homeland, but ...
    From the same topic, the publication of the so-called "Kremlin list" adopted by the United States. To force the elite to definitely betray Russia.
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 10 February 2018 13: 38
      +13
      Quote: eugraphus
      I think that the next step will be the adoption by Russian athletes of foreign citizenship. And under the same excuses that they really love their homeland, but ...

      good good good
      film "Brother-2" monologue of a New York taxi driver:
      “- And where is your homeland, son? Gorbachev surrendered your homeland to the Americans to hang out beautifully. And now your homeland is two wars and the Crimea "prokakal" (changed due to the requirement. Adm.sayta). I handed over Russian people in the Baltic, I handed over the Serbs in the Balkans. Homeland! Today, the motherland is where the ass is warm, and you know it better than me! »
      It can be seen from the film that the athletes learned this particular lesson.
    2. DREDD
      DREDD 10 February 2018 16: 39
      +5
      Absolutely true words.
    3. Victor N
      Victor N 10 February 2018 19: 54
      +2
      You need to make a list of those who refused! Publish and provide support as much as possible! This is real!
      I understand this sport a little, help, friends! There are fewer good people, they need help. And moral support is very important.
      And pay tribute to the traitors so that the silver pieces do not let them sleep.
    4. karabas86
      karabas86 10 February 2018 22: 15
      +4
      So a tilka has already sold everything for a long time, including us, it’s just that we didn’t manage to blame everything, but many have a brood.
  5. Andrey NM
    Andrey NM 10 February 2018 07: 27
    +15
    UAR, ROA, gray robes ... On the back there are still matching stripes ... Along the perimeter of the building several "volunteers" had to be started up. With dogs ... Why be so humiliated?
  6. Glory1974
    Glory1974 10 February 2018 07: 37
    +21
    When the USSR was brought up on the example of the musketeers: "One for all, and all for one!"
    And now: "Everyone is for himself!"
    Wanted a new national ideology? Here she is.
    1. passing
      passing 10 February 2018 08: 00
      +12
      Quote: glory1974
      When the USSR was brought up on the example of the musketeers: "One for all, and all for one!"
      And now: "Everyone is for himself!"
      Wanted a new national ideology? Here she is.

      Fine! A little tweak .... How to rob a country, so we ourselves and the people, and each for himself. And if the war? So it turns out everything is done for the people. Tariffs, prices, pensions and even elections.
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 10 February 2018 09: 05
        +5
        As in the saying: “You are half, and I am half. Your half is still half.”
        1. passing
          passing 10 February 2018 10: 25
          0
          Quote: glory1974
          As in the saying: “You are half, and I am half. Your half is still half.”

          What is there, a quarter, if. I have local censorship after words
          Quote: glory1974
          so we ourselves and the people
          removed the word that defines our value to the current government
    2. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 10 February 2018 13: 52
      +6
      Quote: glory1974
      When the USSR was brought up on the example of the musketeers: "One for all, and all for one!"
      And now: "Everyone is for himself!"
      Wanted a new national ideology? Here she is.

      Exactly! : good good good
      But after all, precisely for this the fans of “changes” in the 90s in Moscow rushed under the tanks? I wanted to be a "personality", and not a gray "scoop" in the same sweatshirt?
      Is progress not in person, but under the colorful banners of patriotism? fellow
  7. samarin1969
    samarin1969 10 February 2018 07: 49
    +25
    It is high time for the NOC of the Russian Federation to dissolve as unnecessary, and put the money into military sports camps for children ... If these athletes consider this to be their own business, then let them pay from their prizes for commercial tournaments. These people have no relation to Russia.
    1. Alber
      Alber 10 February 2018 08: 03
      +14
      Quote: samarin1969
      It is high time for the NOC of the Russian Federation to dissolve as unnecessary, and put the money into military sports camps for children ... If these athletes consider this to be their own business, then let them pay from their prizes for commercial tournaments. These people have no relation to Russia.


      !!! ± ++ I agree three times ...
      We need to develop small sports for all the kids. And not for businessmen under the auspices of the "Lake" ...
  8. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 10 February 2018 08: 27
    +20
    Zadolbala this Olympics, I am pleased in our area Ice Palace. Mass physical education - this is an indicator of the physical health of the nation, and not corrupt athletes, often living abroad,
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 10 February 2018 14: 01
      +8
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Zadolbala this Olympics, I am pleased in our area Ice Palace. Mass physical education - this is an indicator of the physical health of the nation, and not corrupt athletes, often living abroad,

      One nuance.
      Do you have sections in your Ice Palace free of charge, or at least accessible to our population, as in the USSR?
      I’m 200 meters from the Sports Palace, but we don’t go there because the prices for training bite. And unfortunately, winters are not the same as childhood, you can’t walk around on the river.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 11 February 2018 08: 08
        0
        Quote: Sovetskiy
        Do you have sections in your Ice Palace free of charge, or at least accessible to our population, as in the USSR?

        Both daughters are doing absolutely free, even skates were given out for free. Once a week 25 rubles to the gym
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 10 February 2018 08: 41
    +10
    The loot was stronger
    ..Bablo, the main and only winner at the Olympics ...
  10. common man
    common man 10 February 2018 08: 45
    +10
    Well, according to the results of the games, there will be a release: "Outsider OI-2018, the IOC team, turned out to be in w ... e." Well, somehow hr..n with entim. Not interesting already.
    Well, they went to the Olympics, such as for awards. for contracts, to speak. But could they ignore the discovery? Do not disgrace.
  11. X Y Z
    X Y Z 10 February 2018 08: 54
    +27
    Russian athletes did not pass the test for lice. Salvage turned out to be stronger. And the “patriotic” monologues “may not have the flag of Russia on my uniform, but the Motherland is in my heart” is an attempt to deceive my own conscience and fans.


    You can joke about it, you can not notice, but there was an extremely significant event that divided the time before and after. In the open, part of the athletes abandoned their country, flag and everything that the IOC orders them. And they had nothing for it! We can say that this event has become a symbol of an era when loot and purely personal interests prevail over everything - my income, my apartment, my cars, my children, my vacation in Turkey, etc. And, I agree with the author, an attempt to pour all this action with a patriotic sauce (we fight for you, despite the obstacles, we will come forward, we will pass) only highlighted all the ugliness of the deed. Instead of a patriotic team, we saw at the opening several dozens of sadly wandering “athletes” who went to work. Guys, you have reached your point, you are in history. But will your ancestors appreciate such a "self-sacrifice" or do you give a damn?
  12. Alex shev
    Alex shev 10 February 2018 09: 12
    0
    The West’s task is to isolate Russia, to make it clear to the whole world that Russia is a degenerated USSR. To promote this isolation is to play a hand to the enemy. You must go to the games. And after that, it is necessary to file a lawsuit with millions of claims for damages.
    1. DREDD
      DREDD 10 February 2018 16: 49
      +8
      To accept the conditions for the surrender of the IOC, which is wholly and completely controlled by the United States and to "speak at the lempiad" is not an arm of the enemy game? "And then you must file a lawsuit." Somewhere I already heard it ... And, exactly, when the epic with Rodchenkov began, then the cheers-patriots squealed with foam at the mouth: "Yes, we will condemn them !! 11," Pray to the IOC, the Russian woman gets up off her knees! ! "But there is only silence around.
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 10 February 2018 20: 00
      +1
      This position and ZERO does not deserve! The coast is completely lost.
  13. AleBors
    AleBors 10 February 2018 09: 13
    +18
    I support the author. I consider the march of this column of traitors to be a humiliation of the country. At the highest level. Muffled murmurs in an attempt to make excuses are a sign of weakness. Look, take an example from North Korea ... IOC persuaded them to come to the Olympics ... Do you know why? Eun has really steel testicles, and he is not afraid of anyone.
    It's disgusting to continue. For me, these participants are Vlasovites. There is no respect for this. There is no Russian team at this Olympiad .. No options.
    1. Lyapis
      Lyapis 10 February 2018 09: 38
      +5
      People who went to defend the country's sporting honor, despite all the obstacles, not afraid to find themselves in obviously unfavorable conditions of the competition, is it traitors? Seriously? Although the sofa is certainly more visible.
      And yes, especially for fans of steel testicles, North Korea came to the Olympics and ... was held at the opening with the southerners.

      Ololo, yes they are also flying a white flag !!! laughing But for some reason no one howls about traitors and Vlasovites. And even more so, shit does not pour on the heads of athletes.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 10 February 2018 09: 50
        +11
        defend the country's sporting honor
        fool knock knock of which country?
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 10 February 2018 09: 51
          0
          Russia not?
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 10 February 2018 10: 04
            +8
            Russia not?
            and where is it visible? They still need to be sued for what state symbols were covered with markers.
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 10 February 2018 10: 11
              0
              and where is it visible?

              Logo on the form of a hockey team for example ...
              1. 82т11
                82т11 10 February 2018 21: 53
                +2
                Is the United Arab Republic a United Arab Republic? What about Russia and the Egyptians?
                1. Lyapis
                  Lyapis 11 February 2018 01: 49
                  0
                  Oh, a million-dollar joke.
      2. common man
        common man 10 February 2018 10: 41
        +17
        Quote: Lyapis
        Ololo, yes they are also flying a white flag !!!

        This is not a white flag. This is the flag of the united Korean Peninsula. And they passed along with athletes from South Korea. In the same form with them. And "athletes from Russia" passed under the flag of the international Olympic committee. I wonder who they went along with? and in the same form with whom? Comparison sorry incorrect. If for Koreans it was a move forward, then for Russia ....?
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 10 February 2018 10: 50
          +2
          That's all I myself understand perfectly. But the gentleman above really admired Eun's testicles and it was beyond my strength not to stir him up.
          And for that matter, our team went under the flag of the Olympic movement (and when they are mentioned, it is directly said that they are from Russia).
          1. Alone
            Alone 10 February 2018 13: 37
            +7
            Uniting with kindred people and finding a compromise in the form of a flag satisfying both countries and neutrals going under the Olympic flag is one and the same!? Then it really is.
            Quote: Lyapis
            Ololo
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 11 February 2018 01: 54
              0
              These kindred peoples have been living in a state of war for more than half a century, have radically opposing ideologies and are ready to cling to each other at any time. And even they were able to step over themselves and at least temporarily unite. You, out of the blue, on a completely far-fetched occasion, are almost ready to lynch your own ...
              Indeed, not at all the same thing.
              1. Alone
                Alone 11 February 2018 13: 50
                +2
                What do you have to lynch about here? For me personally, as well as most neutrals are on the side, but ... The neutrals didn’t go for the Russian anthem and flag, which if they went to the pedestal, they went for fame, for the dough. But even that’s with them why did they stop all the best athletes and make it possible to walk at the closing with a flag so that they who won nothing neutral (even if they won by chance, but then they take away medals for anyone) showed the “international community” that “without doping” "can NOTHING. This is a double" charm "which by stuck neutrals.
                As regards Korean athletes, it’s an honor to praise that they went under the same flag, following DeKubertin’s instructions that there was no room for disagreement during the Olympic Games. You could blame him if his athletes went under the flag of South Korea, so again by .
      3. X Y Z
        X Y Z 10 February 2018 10: 43
        +8
        Lyapis
        People who went to defend the country's sporting honor, despite all the obstacles, not afraid to find themselves in obviously unfavorable conditions of the competition, is it traitors?


        Well, "traitors", "Vlasovites" is too much said. No need to insult people. Well, not heroes, that's for sure. Even if they win a lot of medals, as you say, most of the population will certainly not be happy with them. Because they understand at what price they are mined. Price is the humiliation of the motherland, not its glory. And the torment they experience there, not for the sake of abstract patriotism, is tolerated, but for very specific moral and material benefits. I am not against honest earnings, but just do not completely earthly desires to pour a thick layer of patriotism. It strongly gives away cynicism and hypocrisy.
        1. AleBors
          AleBors 10 February 2018 11: 07
          +7
          And what does it mean to "pour a thick layer of patriotism"? And where is hypocrisy and cynicism?
          The cynicism is that they sold the power’s honor for money.
          1. Lyapis
            Lyapis 10 February 2018 11: 48
            +1
            Someone from the Olympians once said that the main and only purpose of their trip to the Olympic Games is money? By the way, only some winners and prize-winners can count on some kind of bonus (in fact, not so big ones), and these are units from the entire national team. So to say that athletes go there for a long ruble is simply simply not true from which direction do not look.
            1. AleBors
              AleBors 10 February 2018 12: 00
              +14
              That is, several million rubles is a trifle for you?
              And all sorts of contracts from sponsors and sportswear and equipment companies are also, so, a trifle? ... Glad your solvency.
              And besides .. This is especially for you ... These ... participants, at whose expense they trained, ate, drank, went, producing nothing (except feces)? For your own?
              I work in Russia, I pay taxes, and I suspect that you too .. That is, the above ... athletes did all this at our expense ... And now the honor of the country that it fed them does not matter?
              So to speak about lack of reminiscence ... of participants, at least hypocritically.
        2. Lyapis
          Lyapis 10 February 2018 12: 19
          +2
          About humiliation. I’ll try to interpret this as I see it myself.
          What is happening now with the IOC, doping and other things, without any doubt with sport is not connected at all, but directed against Russia as a state. Denigrate, discredit, humiliate. Pushing the topic with an inadmissibility, our “friends” obviously want to show that OI is entertainment for white masters, but not for us. Label us as a rogue country and point us to our place. Not to go to the games would be just a recognition of their innocence. Stuffing up and hiding in one's corner, hiding behind ravings about the "white flag", etc., that would be a real humiliation.
          But there is another option. To the evil of all, go to the Olympic Games and compete for medals. Knowing that in advance you will be in unequal conditions with your rivals, that you will encounter a biased attitude, that the chances of victory in the end are not very high (given the composition that went). This, in my opinion, is a more worthy deed for our country. Show that we are not broken, that no difficulties will stop us and we will fight to the end.

          About the money. I already wrote about this, but I repeat again. As far as I know, not one of the athletes ever said that he was going to the Olympic Games in order to chop dough there. Yes, and those essentials still have to be earned. So all the talk about "sold out" is nothing but nonsense.
          1. AleBors
            AleBors 10 February 2018 12: 48
            +12
            To not speak does not mean not to do. Do not go to the game is a sign of strength and rightness. Not to succumb to provocations to go their own way is a sign of strength. And go on about your "friends" - acknowledge their innocence .. Written to abandon state symbols is not a betrayal? From the IOC they will be in cash .. This is not 30 pieces of silver?
            Well, yes .. fight .. prove .. blah blah .. Who needs to prove? A bunch of degenerates? It's like standing on a par with them, becoming the same.
            The main thing will be later. When they take away the medals (if they earn it, which is unlikely), there will be an enchanting show, with saliva wrapping on fists and smearing snot on the cheeks .. "How bad it was for us ... biased attitude .." and the like rubbish. So, these ... participants themselves knew what the public humiliation of the country and their beloved ones was going to - a conscious choice. So you need it.
            That's all I wanted to say.
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 11 February 2018 02: 01
              0
              succumb to provocation

              This is exactly what happened if we had not gone to the Olympics. To hide in your corner and sulk all over the world - where is the manifestation of power, tell me please?
              Well, yes .. fight .. prove .. blah blah.

              I see the discussion coming to a new level of argument, right? laughing
              A bunch of degenerates? It's like standing on a par with them, becoming the same.

              Are the words too loud? You yourself apparently do not think so, but you rank them among the Aryans apparently (with all the consequences).
              That's all I wanted to say.

              I already realized that in addition to dull anger and repetition of hardened dogmas, you did not find any argument.
          2. X Y Z
            X Y Z 10 February 2018 20: 20
            +9
            Lyapis
            But there is another option. To the evil of all, go to the Olympic Games and compete for medals. Knowing that in advance you will be in unequal conditions with your rivals, that you will encounter a biased attitude, that the chances of victory in the end are not very high (given the composition that went). This, in my opinion, is a more worthy deed for our country.


            How beautiful it sounds, it’s just breathtaking! That's just to live by the slogans does not work. But we really have the following:
            1. By going to this Olympiad, we indirectly acknowledge all those accusations from the IOC and WADA against the state and athletes. Once we arrived and unconditionally fulfilled all the conditions, it was our fault.
            2. The results of our athletes will be obviously worse than in previous years. This will allow all our “partners” to declare with a blue eye - you see what results the RF team achieved when it was cleaned from doping. Here is their real power and strength. This argument will certainly go into action.
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 11 February 2018 02: 13
              0
              That's just to live by the slogans does not work.

              You may not have noticed, but the slogans are that you are already talking for the millionth time, about the "neutrals", the "white flag", etc. It is the slogans that were not invented by you, but accepted by you as absolute truth, even without trying to think it over and pranalize.
              But we really have the following:

              Maybe so:
              1. Suppose we do not eat at the Olympic Games. Our friends say the Russians are to blame, so they weren’t allowed to play. We are found guilty a priori. Probably for all subsequent games, and at the same time for all other international competitions, you should not go for a ride either, so that it does not look like a guilty plea, right?
      4. AleBors
        AleBors 10 February 2018 10: 44
        +17
        I certainly know better from the sofa. Only I gave part of my youth to the service of the country, its flag and was ready to break all who dare to encroach on state symbols.
        You are apparently from a different generation. As one movie hero said; "In time to betray is to anticipate" .. This, apparently about you.
        I don’t care about Koreans, even if they speak under the rainbow, this is a matter of their conscience and honor. This is just what the UAR athletes do not have. And they went to defend the country's honor (which country can we talk about if you are without a homeland and a flag, and signed your abdication from the Fatherland) and your own pockets. And do not gurgle about "Russia in the heart, soul, kidneys .." In their souls they have loot .... I know better from the sofa ...
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 10 February 2018 10: 54
          +1
          "Before, the sky was bluer and the grass was greener" ... and of course you are the only one who cares about Russia.
          In this context, your "Looks especially funny" doesn’t have to gurgle about "Russia in the heart, soul, kidneys .." wink
          1. AleBors
            AleBors 10 February 2018 11: 04
            +10
            Glad to have fun. In general, as you deigned to say "for the Russian", guardians, thank God there are many more. So reconcile.
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 10 February 2018 11: 49
              0
              Yes, I have reconciled. Fortunately, most of this contingent is acquired on forums and social networks.
      5. eugraphus
        eugraphus 10 February 2018 13: 49
        +5
        Quote: Lyapis
        Ololo, yes they are also flying a white flag !!! But for some reason no one howls about traitors and Vlasovites. And even more so, shit does not pour on the heads of athletes.

        If you look at the Korean white flag, it becomes clear that this is a theme for reconciliation of long-standing enemies, a compromise, so that no one would be offended. So that no one could say that someone was walking under the flag of the enemy. A very wise move! And if for a moment imagine that in spite of everything, the Koreas will unite. It will be another superpower with advanced technology, nuclear weapons and a patriotic ideology that will send the United States to hell. It turns out that the white flags of Korea and the United Arab Republic are essentially different. Under some, a disconnected people seek reconciliation and unity, and under another, a group of private individuals came to solve some of their personal problems.
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 11 February 2018 02: 41
          0
          This is all so obvious. With this photo I wanted to show something else. At the flag of a united Korea, everyone found both meaning and justification, and no one even went in cycles in white. There, no one began to yell about the betrayal of the Juche / capitalism ideals, about conspiracy with the enemy (this is the first thing that came to my mind, there are a lot of reasons to start a sracha). Everyone just marveled at this gesture of goodwill of the two Koreas. And rightly so, by the way.
          Our athletes were immediately pasted with labels: "traitors", "Vlasov", etc. They began to call to put them against the wall, burn them at the stake, or, at worst, send them to camps. And everyone doesn’t really give a damn that they are speaking not under the white flag, but under the flag of the Olympic movement and that in their naming they directly indicate that these athletes are from Russia.
          Here everyone curses the IOC, WADA, the USA and other enemies of the human race ... But why do you need enemies when you yourself can easily cope with the same tasks. request
      6. Olezhek
        Olezhek 10 February 2018 16: 02
        +4
        And yes, especially for fans of steel testicles, North Korea came to the Olympics and ... was held at the opening with the southerners.


        And Koreans have a “sketch” of the flag United Korea - quite patriotic, by the way!
        Korea is ONE! Korea is one!
      7. DREDD
        DREDD 10 February 2018 16: 55
        +8
        Lyapis This is the most idiotic attempt to cover up the knee-bending of “our” athletes. And the united procession of northerners and southerners is really cool.
      8. Victor N
        Victor N 10 February 2018 20: 04
        0
        TRAITORS. Seriously. We are not Korea, WE are RUSSIAN!
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 11 February 2018 02: 15
          0
          Are you Russian and therefore lower your own, even worse than enemies?
          1. Nulgorod
            Nulgorod 14 February 2018 18: 54
            0
            Because ITS hit harder than enemies. This is our personal sad experience.
      9. 82т11
        82т11 10 February 2018 21: 47
        +1
        You are a “stupid person”, there are two countries acting together here and they have chosen a white flag, and with whom did the RF unite at these OIs?
  14. Lyapis
    Lyapis 10 February 2018 09: 18
    +1
    Yes, the Russians are such Russians ... Instead of supporting those who are already having a hard time, they found the strength to pour even more dirt. laughing
    The funniest thing will be when the Olympians start earning medals. And the same people who a few days ago shouted about the “white flag” and posted “biased” pictures on this topic will go into a violent patriotic hysteria, like these athletes are great fellows, defeating all obstacles.
    1. AleBors
      AleBors 10 February 2018 10: 46
      +9
      And then they (medals) will begin to pass more "clean." Do not be naive ...
      1. Lyapis
        Lyapis 10 February 2018 11: 50
        0
        And we will begin to return them, as we already did this a couple of weeks ago.
        1. AleBors
          AleBors 10 February 2018 12: 49
          +7
          Will you start Good luck! lol
          1. Lyapis
            Lyapis 11 February 2018 02: 19
            0
            Will you start

            Not a hat for Senka, as they say. Personally, this does not depend on me, since we have people who have already done this.
            And for the wish of good luck, of course, thanks. hi
    2. Olezhek
      Olezhek 10 February 2018 16: 16
      +4
      The funniest thing will be when the Olympians start earning medals.


      Excuse me, for whom?
      Personally for yourself?
      I'd rather go "cheer" for Rabinovich’s yacht, that is, Abramovich ...
      1. Lyapis
        Lyapis 11 February 2018 02: 16
        0
        Well, probably for those who have not slipped into stupid bitterness and do not urge to lynch these same athletes at every corner.
    3. 82т11
      82т11 10 February 2018 22: 03
      +1
      But what about the sports brotherhood? But what about the athletes whose medals were taken for the previous Olympic Games?
      I look at our athletes now the motto is "every man for himself"?
    4. 82т11
      82т11 10 February 2018 22: 04
      +2
      But what about the sports brotherhood? But what about the athletes whose medals were taken for the previous Olympic Games?
      I look at our athletes now the motto is "every man for himself"?
    5. 82т11
      82т11 10 February 2018 22: 07
      +1
      But what about the sports brotherhood? But what about the athletes whose medals were taken for the previous Olympic Games?
      I look at our athletes now the motto is "every man for himself"?
  15. thinker
    thinker 10 February 2018 09: 30
    +8
    The test for lice Russian athletes did not pass. The loot was stronger.
    And what you wanted was their WORK, making a living with skates, skis, and more. The spectacle, called the Olympic Games, has not been such a long time, Salvage won, commercial gain. Pierre de Coubertin extolled the amateur spirit of competition. Requirements to amateur athletes were tough:
    Do not compete in cash prizes or bets.
    Not encouraged by money for participating in competitions.
    Do not receive compensation for competition leave.
    Do not be a professional trainer.
    So we are witnessing the dying cramps of modern Olympism.
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 10 February 2018 14: 46
      +10
      Quote: thinker
      And what you wanted was their WORK, making a living with skates, skis, and more.

      So let them earn like hockey players in the NHL, what does the state have to do with it?
      Let them open an IP, LLC, CJSC and earn money with skates, skis, etc., pay taxes on themselves for themselves and go to the Olympics at their own expense even under the color of the rainbow.
      But it somehow turns out strange, training, support, competitions, fees, trips for the state account (that is, you and I), and when the population of the country is against a trip to this humiliation, they say to you: "no, we are not with you "We need to chop the babos, but to amuse our vanity that he was at the Olympics at least a carcass, even a scarecrow."
      Does it not seem that the “investor” in the person of the people has once again been bred by “thimbles” and simply “thrown”?
      1. thinker
        thinker 10 February 2018 16: 13
        +5
        So it is, the state must develop and pay physical education, but not professional sport (Eng. sport, short for the original old French. desport - "game", "entertainment"). hi
  16. groks
    groks 10 February 2018 09: 33
    +13
    Well, what did you want? In general, our government cannot refuse from OI - oligarchs will lose money. Zhukov also promised to pay money - for the development of anti-doping or something. This is a confession of our officials in guilt. It is understandable - without doping, only our footballers are playing right now (well, maybe they only drink vodka). But the recession is going on ours. Bach, by the way, stubbornly does not see money, which gives the oligarchoptriots a reason to shout and gallop. Why jump? They admitted guilt, so did they throw it?
    Having crouched a bit (even yachts would not have to be sold), our oligarchs could have organized alternative competitions - there is experience and in Sochi the facilities have probably not collapsed. It would be possible to have a soulful cut on this, and let alone a PR .... But this does not happen. What is it? Our oligarchs were threatened not only to include in all sorts of lists, but also really select everything nafig? Why is this needed? And so that ... he knew his place. And, in this case, it would be ... well, not only the oligarchs of the Russian Federation, but also our athletes and our fans, and the whole country in general. This humiliates us all, regardless of the cleanliness / impurity of our athletes - but you saw that American gymnast, what can I say!
  17. Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 February 2018 09: 47
    +11
    the war won and the country was restored from ruins by people who had no idea about the Olympic movement. And none of them considered this a tragedy.
    That's it!
  18. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 10 February 2018 10: 15
    +14
    For me, there is also no Olympiad, I do not watch it, from the word "completely".
  19. weksha50
    weksha50 10 February 2018 10: 34
    +13
    "Do you know that…
    USSR until 1952 did not participate in the Olympic movement? They built Magnitogorsk and Dneproges, won the war and rebuilt the country from ruins by people who had no idea about the Olympic movement. And none of them thought it was a tragedy
    "....

    Here ... The article’s digest ... The essence of it ... A conclusion that makes you wonder ... And with which it is difficult to NOT agree ... hi
  20. Gardamir
    Gardamir 10 February 2018 11: 20
    +15
    At the Olympics, the UAR team. What country is it?
    The options are:
    Society of Anonymous Russians
    Remains of Athletes of Russia
    Another "Archipobed" Mode.
    Features of Anti-Doping Russia
    Interestingly amend the constitution? Who are we, so far, Russia or already the UAR?
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 10 February 2018 18: 28
      +7
      Quote: Gardamir
      Who are we, so far, Russia or already the UAR?

      Or maybe Federal Neutralia?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 10 February 2018 18: 52
        +5
        Federal Neutralia?
        that's it. In the Donbass, ichtamnets, in Syria, ichtamnets, and at the Olympics, they decided to support the president’s initiatives, also ichtamnets. The Kremlin is neutral to everyone. if they hadn’t shown a video about a shot down pilot, it wouldn’t be there either. But Erdogan, as soon as the helicopter was shot down, immediately spoke on Turkish TV. And now the Americans fired on the "Syrian" troops. Maybe we’ll find out how many nthamnets died.
    2. 82т11
      82т11 10 February 2018 22: 09
      0
      UAR is a united Arab republic. Egyptians are this.
  21. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 10 February 2018 11: 46
    +11
    Well, suppose a Russian wins. He will stand on the podium. AND WHAT ???? FOR WHAT ????? For the sake of participation? What is a hero athlete ???
    And these moments of pride, when the anthem sounds and the flag of your country rises nothing already ????
    It turns out so ....
    Fit into the "world community" on their terms? wink Fit further, and your feet will be wiped ...
    Personally, my opinion request
    PS Other countries look at Russia, who hypothetically sees her as a defender and friend, but how will their views change when Russia allows “partners” to do such things with themselves (diplomatic missions, doping, etc.)?
  22. Captain45
    Captain45 10 February 2018 13: 07
    +9
    Well, with athletes it is clear how many people have so many opinions. I’m interested in another thing, I watched the Match channel and from the studio they contact the correspondent in Korea. That’s commenting on the situation, they say - a team of athletes from Russia. I understand that this is the officially accepted name at the Olympics and the correspondent follows the accepted rules because most likely it can be deprived of accreditation. I was hurt by another, the leader in the studio repeating word for word for the correspondent - a team of athletes from Russia. He couldn’t say the Russian team, the Russian athletes, or he also wondered whether they would hear and not be allowed abroad as unreliable. If you are such a right patriot, tell me, sitting in the Moscow studio the Russian team. A trifle, but nice.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 10 February 2018 15: 59
      +3
      By the way - the Vlasov units during the Second World War had similar problems ...
      for example with combat songs.
  23. BAI
    BAI 10 February 2018 13: 38
    +16
    I have already quoted our girlfriend, the European champion in bench press, I will quote again:
    You will be despised even for the struggle for these medals "

    And I support her.
  24. Lexus
    Lexus 10 February 2018 14: 29
    +6
    On the flag it was necessary not to draw test tubes, but to draw “Rubber products No. 2” - and “neutral” athletes should perform like that! You can’t imagine a better way to reflect their corrupt nature.
  25. seacap
    seacap 10 February 2018 14: 56
    +4
    The UAR is somehow very consonant and similar to the OUN or ROA, the letters are exactly the same. The whole system is already a completely commercial project based on political dominance. For the country and the people it’s just a show that they won’t remember in a week It doesn’t have any practical benefits for the economy, the development of mass sports. But it creates a bunch of warm and profitable places for careerists, bureaucrats, and athletes who are out of print. I don’t know how it is now, but not so long ago, only OCD could duty-free sell alcohol and tobacco products, which generally nonsense It is not clear why to participate with the perseverance of a masochist in organizations where there is no influence on processes that are obviously hostile and, most importantly, do not bring real benefits to the country? It’s clear from the position of Mutko and Zhukov that they lost their feeders, so they continue to eat sweet and to sleep softly, in spite of all their destructive activities. And what did it start now? No, it was already in Canada, where our main achievement was - partying in the Russian House, where for every condemnation or direct violation, Mutko with a dreary mine something mumbled and snapped about of justice, then it was already impossible to look at this disgrace. Since then, nothing has changed, if you can whip your cheeks unrequitedly, and in response to smearing your snot in the face you will only whimper and beg that you don’t need more, then you can generally legs wipe and interfere with shit, and why not, all the same you will not be anything for it, but you chop off your money and strangers.
  26. Olezhek
    Olezhek 10 February 2018 16: 09
    +6
    Putin suggested personal participation to our "athletes" (if anyone wants to) - well, everyone broke up !!
    Not a single dissident!
    That someone "chose freedom"?
    By the way, why should the state prohibit such trips?
    We have a free country!
    but respect such gentlemen, please ...

  27. 32363
    32363 10 February 2018 16: 38
    +1
    right now, the female biathlon was shown, there were no Russian participants in the frame even once, neither during shooting, nor in the race itself, it was generally clear, but the flags of Russia were visible in the stands ... the Bavarian won drinks good
  28. gorenina91
    gorenina91 10 February 2018 17: 52
    +5
    -Russian athletes had to declare a boycott of this Olympics from the very beginning and generally not go anywhere ...
  29. Radikal
    Radikal 10 February 2018 19: 46
    +6
    Quote: Finches
    A. Who is my idol? Do not tell me? If you are hinting at Putin, then he is not my idol — for me the Supreme Commander-in-Chief for 0,5 bets earns money as the President of Russia, but as a presidential candidate the most normal and adequate man is capable of at least doing something, and not just hurting the electorate! So not confuse God's gift with fried eggs!

    Glory to the Adepts! wassat Glory to the adherents! lol
  30. Radikal
    Radikal 10 February 2018 19: 50
    +3
    Quote: Karabin
    Quote: Gardamir
    Who are we, so far, Russia or already the UAR?

    Or maybe Federal Neutralia?

    Neutral Federation, or Federated Neutralia! sad
  31. Radikal
    Radikal 10 February 2018 20: 01
    +3
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    why are gray neutrals not crawling on their knees?

    Yuryevich, it seems that he is no longer a young man, but why are you talking all sorts of nonsense? If our MTR fighters, often without a banner and in a strange form, are fighting, then what should they do on their knees? Everyone has their own plot of struggle and I wish OUR athletes WINS. I know that they will be VERY EASY to get them. And stop pouring mud on them, they are now swelling for our bureaucrats, and there they are pouring all sorts of salt on their wounds ...
    And here is this statement:
    Yes, exactly: the Olympiad has just begun, and Russia has already lost it.
    says that there was still no war, and Klim Podkova IS ALREADY WHITE FLAG ready to throw out, without any resistance. How already lost.

    And in our country, athletes are already equated to the MTR, that is, they “work” under other names, in “balaclava”, risk their lives, freedom, sometimes both! That would have surprised the MTR fighters after reading your nonsense! sad
  32. Radikal
    Radikal 10 February 2018 20: 09
    +4
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    why are gray neutrals not crawling on their knees?

    because Putin said "getting up is well."

    good lol
  33. Antor
    Antor 10 February 2018 21: 09
    +7
    Our athletes at the games in Pyeongchang are not our athletes, it’s definitely noticed here! In military terms, these are traitors, huckster-merchants who went for money and honors, without the Russian anthem, flag and coat of arms !!!! God be their judge, they probably don’t know that honor is better without glory than glory without honor !!!! I don’t watch the Olympics, probably like many who don’t agree that their children, generally in our society, would be instilled with such an example of corporate self-esteem, lack of true patriotism, actual renunciation of their homeland, so that our worthless officials from sports would not try to tell us, raised such athletes "not under the flag, not under the anthem, not under the arms of their country" !!! Athletes, great athletes, olympionics do not have the right, whatever the circumstances, to be a bad, unworthy role model, just robots with pumped up muscles for themselves. Real heroes in Syria, Donbass, Crimea, there are many of them in our Great Motherland-Russia, and the gray, one-faced column under the Olympic flag that passed at the opening of the Olympic Games will remain in the memory of many gray, amorphous masses who crossed their honor for glory !!! !!
  34. zak167
    zak167 11 February 2018 00: 14
    +1
    Not tired of procrastinating one and the same.
  35. Grandfather Talash
    Grandfather Talash 11 February 2018 01: 08
    +3
    For the rag is the person who stands under the rag .. and how can it not be justified .. not just one life .. I wonder how it would look with a Dagestan policeman and a dead pilot? Doesn't matter which flag? This is called a betrayal ... no matter how it was presented ... for this, it was possible to grab a scoop off in the Soviet sandboxes ... no athletes in the country .. ended ... sadness.
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  37. Uma palata
    Uma palata 11 February 2018 02: 32
    +1
    Great article. It says almost everything.
  38. eugraphus
    eugraphus 11 February 2018 03: 29
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    Personally, I made a decision for myself - I do not watch the Olympics!

    -I do not watch the Olympics.
    -Why?
    - There used to be an Olympic spirit, but now everything smells like urine.
  39. Foxmara
    Foxmara 11 February 2018 05: 14
    +1
    Quote: VVK_VDB
    1990 GDP

    Are you writing from a boarding school? Or sniff nonsense?
  40. prior
    prior 11 February 2018 09: 52
    +2
    I have no doubt that tomorrow these “Vlasovites” will play under the banners of other countries, in foreign teams, in other countries. The first, most difficult step of betrayal is taken. Further on the thumb ....
  41. Dmitriy84
    Dmitriy84 12 February 2018 08: 10
    0
    Interestingly, how many fans from our country went there, is there information?
  42. Brigadier
    Brigadier 13 February 2018 00: 06
    0
    Not only Russian athletes, but also the Russian authorities did not pass the lice test!
    Our country will be lowered lower and lower, and our “guarantor” will once again “express concern” and painfully decide for itself whether it is time for him to get the white flag and put it into operation with these, with permission to say “ athletes "... Ugh! It's disgusting!
    Ask yourself, people, do we need such a president? It is unlikely ... Unless you yourself plan to take control of the white flag in the future ...
    EVERYONE VOTES FOR BREAST !!!
  43. Alexander Ermolaev
    Alexander Ermolaev 13 February 2018 12: 58
    0
    It’s rather strange to read about the fact that these athletes are traitors and that they should not have gone to the Olympics. Athletes are not to blame for the fact that officials deprive them of the possibility of self-fulfillment and they correctly did what went there.
    1. Nulgorod
      Nulgorod 14 February 2018 20: 02
      +1
      Well, if you consider them as independent stateless people - yes, that's right wink
  44. vandarus
    vandarus 14 February 2018 16: 23
    +1
    To go to the Olympics in such conditions or not is a matter of conscience for each individual athlete. I did not understand Putin why he began to urge athletes to go, and us to support them. Could just not comment. It looks in the eyes of people as capitulation to the pressure of the West. He doesn’t understand that such calls before the election are to his own detriment? He has generally been acting weird lately. A sudden "victory" in Syria, calls to march under the white flag without shoulder straps and insignia .... What's interesting is happening.
  45. 1536
    1536 15 February 2018 18: 24
    0
    It is regrettable all this! Although, according to Mr. Yavlinsky, in many Russian cities 30% of the population do not have toilets and hot water, you can understand people. But only that.
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