What should a really great power do in such a case?

The case about which we wrote in due time is over. We can say that justice has triumphed, but you can never say.

It all started back in February (not very, of course) February 2014. The Simferopol Art Museum and the Mariupol Museum of Local Lore have signed a contract for exhibiting paintings in the framework of the exhibition “Russian and Ukrainian Art of the 18th - early 20th centuries”.

In accordance with the contract, paintings from the Crimea arrived in Mariupol on February 19 and were to be exhibited before May 27 on the 2014 of the year.

However, Mariupol museum workers received a letter from 19 in March from the director of the Simferopol Art Museum, in which she asked for the return of works of art due to the tense social and political situation in Ukraine.

In the Crimea, as we all remember, the “Russian spring” was raging in full swing ...

The head of the Mariupol Museum, Olga Chaplinskaya, agreed to early terminate the contract on the exposition of paintings from the Crimea, and the head of the department of funds of the Art Museum. A.I. Kuindzhi KU "Mariupol Museum of Local Lore" Natalya Kurenysheva 20 in March handed over pictures to the envoy of the 52 museum in Simferopol.

Then I give the floor to the officials.

"These persons transferred to the temporarily occupied territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea KRU" Simferopol Art Museum "52 paintings, in connection with which the State caused property damage totaling over 1 320 000 US dollars.

The Prosecutor's Office of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, together with the State of Emergency in the Crimea and the city of Sevastopol 07.09.2017, reported suspicion to officials of the administrative staff of the Mariupol Museum of Local Lore Museum criminal offense under Article 5 Art. 191 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (misappropriation, embezzlement of property or seizure of it by means of abuse of official position). "

This is from the official statement of the press service of the prosecutor's office of the ARC Crimea. The prosecutor's office "temporarily" is in Kiev.

There was a court in which Chaplinskaya and Kurenysheva fully admitted their guilt.

As a result, the Ukrainian court found the museum workers guilty and appointed Chaplinskaya (by the way, she is an honored culture worker of Ukraine) and Kurenysheva's punishment of imprisonment for a year of 3, with deprivation of the right to hold posts related to the implementation of organizational and administrative duties for a year .

However, according to the amnesty law, women were freed from the main and additional punishment.

And here is a list of paintings that returned to the Crimea ahead of schedule and are now the property of Russia.

Samokish N.S. "Autumn landscape";
Samokish N.S. "Yard, lit by the sun";
Frenz R.F. "Inn";
Makovsky V.E. "Hospital visit" (sketch) ";
Polenov V.D. "Landscape" (etude) ";
Yuon K.F. "On the shore. The Pskov River";
Krichevsky V.G. "Cyril Church";
Braz O.E. "Portrait of a boy";
Sverchkov N.E. "Rider in the forest";
Tsionglinsky I.F. "Mosque in Tiberias";
Zhukovsky S.Yu. "Departure";
Kolesov A.M. "Portrait of Gilyarov - Platonov";
Shebuev V.K. "Old man's head";
Schedrovsky I.S. "Apple Trading";
Rylov A.A. "Village Makarye";
Yakovlev P.F. "No mercy";
Turzhansky L.V. "Last flowers. Manor";
Shishkin I.I. "Road in the forest";
Levitan I.I. "Swamp (etude)";
Fedotov, PA "Widow";
Vinogradov S.A. "Shepherdess";
Zhukovsky S.Yu. "At the mill";
Polenov V.D. "Autumn landscape";
Savrasov A.K. "Landscape. Evening";
Korovin K.A. "Landscape with a fortress" (sketch of scenery) ";
Polenov V.D. "Landscape with a boat";
Samokish N.S. "On the trotter";
Kazas MM "Portrait of a father";
Raesberg C. "Portrait of a Girl";
Magdesian E.Y. "The courtyard of Alupka Palace";
Magdesian E.Y. "Alupkipski Palace";
Samokish N.S. "Troika" (author's repetition) ";
Samokish N.S. "Petersburg Konka";
Aivazovsky I.K. "Moonlight night";
Blagoveshchenskiy V.I. "Old house";
Blagoveshchenskiy V.I. "Old Kremlin";
Chemesov E. "Portrait of Elizabeth";
Utkin "Aeneas and Anchises";
Orlovsky A.O. "Horse racing";
Orlovsky A.O. "Self Portrait";
Beggrov K. "Petersburg. Vladimir Cathedral";
Rozanov I. "Church in Resurrection near Moscow";
Jordan F. "The Torture of the Savior";
Beggrov K. "The first line of the Vasilievsky fortress. The Lutheran Church of St. Catherine";
Galaktionov "Peterhof. Marley";
Skorodumov "Diana and Acteon";
Kochalov G. "Nevsky Prospect";
Elyakov I. "Prospectus Exchange and Gostiny Dvor";
Grekov A. "Summer Palace of Elizabeth Petrovna";
Smirnov "Portrait of Tomilov";
Mate V.V. "Portrait of Grigorovich DV";
Kramskoy I.N. "Peter I" (etching from the portrait of I. Nikitin) ".

Probably enough names Aivazovsky, Shishkin, Levitan, Polenov, Makovsky Savrasov.

And now the question arises: how, in theory, should a really great power behave in such a case?

To keep silent, since greatness does not allow (which, in fact, is the place to be)?

Say "thank you", and that's all?

Or maybe express gratitude in the form of citizenship and an invitation to work in one of the Russian museums?

You can, of course, hang a medal, of those that pop stars are hung up. But - not necessarily.

The situation is peculiar. Two employees of the museum behaved as their conscience told them. And they gave Russia 52 pictures for the amount indicated above.

Now they are criminals with all the ensuing consequences. Amnesty, but nonetheless.

And it is quite possible that it is easier not to notice a small feat. And cheaper.

And it will be fair when ukropeytsy will mock at them: "Well, what did your son, your Poles (Russians), help you to your son?"

A good lesson for the rest in Ukraine (and not only there), who will face a choice ...

Comments

[Sergeant71]

Yeah .... No words. Where are all these our talking heads when they are so needed? Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov! Awww! Make noise at least once with real good!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Sergeant71

Yeah .... No words. Where are all these our talking heads when they are so needed? Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov! Awww! Make noise at least once with real good!

They were not paid for it. They have elections.

Article +!

[Loess]

And who was paid? To the author of the article?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Less

And who was paid? To the author of the article?

Sergeant has 71 answers

Quote: Sergeant71

Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov! Awww!

[svp67]

Quote: Stroporez

Sergeant has 71 answers

This is NOT ANSWER, this is SIMPLE SHAKING OF THE AIR, exactly the same as

Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov!

They are not officials, with the exception of Zakharova. If Sergeant 71 accuses them, then let him answer, and when he addressed them with this problem, would the full extent of the fall in these personalities be understood, or does he think that they know everything about everyone?

[basmach]

Strange logic, how to pull out a bunch of crap, so for these "comrades" the norm and they find it themselves, but as a matter of justice, they must be addressed

[svp67]

Quote: basmach

Strange logic

You have strange logic. Someone shouted: "Who doesn’t jump" and everyone jumped. Have you tried to turn on the brain?
What do you see a puncture

Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov!

?
They say little about Ukraine? They do not raise questions? There are already tens of thousands convicted of separatism. How do you imagine voicing ALL surnames?
I pay tribute to the head of the Mariupol Museum Olga Mikhailovna Chaplinskaya for the ACTION.

and the head of the fund department of the Art Museum. A.I. Kuindzhi KU "Mariupol Museum of Local Lore" by Natalya Kurenysheva, she is next to the picture

But they are CITIZENS of Ukraine.
What are we to blame now? The fact that they turned to us for political asylum and we refused them?
And you didn’t think that all this noise was a “bear service” for them. As a result, they can get into the “Purgatory” of the “Peacemaker” and I won’t give much for their life and health ...

[Olgovich]

Quote: svp67

And you didn’t think that all this noise was a “bear service” for them. As a result, they can end up in the Purgatory of the Peacemaker, and I won’t give much for their life and health.

I completely agree: women acted courageously, as conscience told them, but to draw the attention of the Nazis to them was to do them a disservice. Which, I think, has already happened, alas.
Everything needs to be done QUIETLY .....

[your1970]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: svp67

And you didn’t think that all this noise was a “bear service” for them. As a result, they can end up in the Purgatory of the Peacemaker, and I won’t give much for their life and health.

I completely agree: women acted courageously, as conscience told them, but to draw the attention of the Nazis to them was to do them a disservice. Which, I think, has already happened, alas.
Everything needs to be done QUIETLY .....

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In general, a very strange situation - they entered under the current Ukrainian legislation - returned in connection with the termination of the contract. Returned to the rightful owner (museum) .Since Ukraine does not recognize the departure of Crimea - returned to the Museum of Ukraine (legally the museum is Ukrainian according to the laws of Ukraine). What is the crime? It could be (according to the laws of Ukraine!) - if for example they would have been transferred to Saratov / Tambov / Vladivostok.
And so it turns out a joke - the prosecutor's office of the "Autonomous Republic of Crimea" believes that the Crimea NOT belongs to Ukraine, otherwise there would be no damage ...
And they (the ARC prosecutor’s office) confirm this with documents in a criminal case ...
And the court makes a decision - that the paintings are gone beyond the limits Ukraine (although again according to Ukrainian laws, they did not leave the territory and the owner did not change)

In place of Bandera - given(and there is the court's decision about it!!!!!!!) prosecutor "ARC" of Crimea worse than the loss of 52 paintings .....

Z.Y. maybe that's why the term is short and came out under an amnesty - after all, there are, apparently, not "pan-and-leg" lawyers in Ukraine

[flicker]

And you didn’t think that all this noise was a “bear service” for them. As a result, they can get into the “Purgatory” of the “Peacemaker” and I won’t give much for their life and health ...

Thought about it too ...

[seti]

The article is a plus. But it’s a pity that this was really not covered anywhere. Perhaps it was covered, but I did not meet.
Definitely, I consider it possible for such women with a conscience to give an invitation to work in the Russian Federation and, if they wish, grant Russian citizenship. Help in this case with the arrangement on the spot. Yes, this is a feat at that time. It is quite possible that they saved these works of art from destruction by their actions. And I will add for sure the lives of these women and their families are in danger.

[210ox]

I agree with you .. Only the betrayer will betray two. I mean that we tried (with all my might) not to notice it .. Give two women work and housing, to say just human THANKS is very expensive for the current government .. But to support the junta with investments, we always have it please .. Or maybe they just did not enter the federal program?

Quote: seti

The article is a plus. But it’s a pity that this was really not covered anywhere. Perhaps it was covered, but I did not meet.
Definitely, I consider it possible for such women with a conscience to give an invitation to work in the Russian Federation and, if they wish, grant Russian citizenship. Help in this case with the arrangement on the spot. Yes, this is a feat at that time. It is quite possible that they saved these works of art from destruction by their actions. And I will add for sure the lives of these women and their families are in danger.

[Sevastiec]

Quote: seti

it really wasn’t covered anywhere

Just highlighted in this article.

[Antianglosax]

Yes, at least a million rubles. they would have imperceptibly given that bread.

[Mik13]

Quote: Sergeant71

Yeah .... No words. Where are all these our talking heads when they are so needed? Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov! Awww! Make noise at least once with real good!

Mr. Soloviev on this occasion will say that no one promised anything to these women. And in general, it is they who are to blame for the fact that this is happening in Ukraine, so there is nothing to complain about.

[Karabin]

Quote: Mik13

Mr. Soloviev will say on this subject

And Mr. Starikov piles a video that will be shown on VO where it will frighten NATO and the 3rd world, if Russia is drawn in for the Russians of New Russia.

[siberalt]

And for the "Scythian gold" not a word at all. So it hung somewhere in Europe.

[dSK]

What should be done in this case really great power?

"The death of Stalin" found its way into the big screens. In Belarus, allowed the distribution of the scandalous film "Death of Stalin." Haters of Russian history will be able to watch the movie "Death of Stalin" in Belarus. In Russia, the film was banned from showing, as it poured mud over real historical figures and mocked Russian history. Head of the Department of Cinematography in the Belarusian Ministry of Culture Alexander Rydvan He said that the expert commission of the department did not find anything in the film that was reprehensible and violating the laws of Belarus. (Channel "Tsargrad" 05.02.18/XNUMX/XNUMX)

[dSK]

"The trial in Minsk: Five years for the memory of the unity of Russians and Belarusians." (Channel "Tsargrad" 04.02.18/XNUMX/XNUMX) Unfortunately, our officials in the "Union State of Russia and Belarus" do not "refine". (SGRB) When Belarusians ask for a discount for gas, they will receive it because the ally will never offend an ally.

[Anyone]

I also do not see anything terrible in this movie. Plain kitsch grotesque comedy. Category "C". If our “smart” officials and zealots of popular morality, from the excess of enthusiasm in the matter of public relations of their beloved, did not begin to advertise this film in this way, we would not hear anything about it at all. Since the distributors don’t need it in FIGs, it’s not a box-and-pin kink. They wouldn’t show him on TV either. Here is a true proverb: make a fool pray to God, he will break his forehead. This is about those who forbade movies ...

[max702]

And this is the work of the 6th colony in Russia .. that’s how the “sleeping” people sit on key posts and how they can spoil the country .. It’s time to do the 37th in your mind ... There’s no patience already .. Let's hope that after March 2018 the progress will begin ..

[svp67]

Quote: Sergeant71

Where are all these our talking heads when they are so needed? Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov! Awww! Make noise at least once with real good!

What a strange idea you have ....

[Sevastiec]

Those whom you so disparagingly described made a fuss, thousands of times, on a wide variety of issues and raise their every broadcast. Especially Solovyov, who already owes so many people freedom, and even life ... And, specifically, the topic of refugees from Ukraine, they raised at least a dozen times. Perhaps, in your opinion, they miraculously know about all the humiliated and offended in the world? And they should report them with a tongue twister 24 hours a day? But will there be much use for this?

[Buffet]

Stop, what kind of speculation is this? No one forced them, they were asked, they agreed to give the paintings. If I knew where to fall, I would lay a straw. Then they are citizens of Ukraine, and what they have been drawn into is a pure farce. Who wants to answer for other citizens? When even they really cannot protect their own.

[Karabin]

Quote: SHVEDsky_stol

Stop, what kind of speculation is this? Nobody forced them

The propaganda team Soloviev replenishment. Nobody promised them anything.

[Buffet]

Well, if you are ready to tear your shirt on, go ahead! Let's! Our Foreign Ministry is not even able to protect its citizens. Remind me when the last time the Foreign Ministry returned from, say, those arrested in other countries from the United States. So when they gave the paintings, they could even think that they would be arrested, that they should “now” in Russia? Or how? Do they even say what these women say? Can you hear their opinion? And then the templates and insults who propogandon you are much to rush. Still need to figure out "whose servants you will be."

[Shurik70]

Anyway, if they ask for asylum in Russia, they will need to be helped.
If they don’t ask, it means they don’t need help, and this is an internal matter of Ukraine.
In my opinion, everything is simple.

[Olgovich]

Quote: SHVEDsky_stol

No one forced them, they were asked, they agreed to give the paintings.

They gave the picture AFTER the annexation of Crimea to Russia. Is it really incomprehensible-WHAT did it threaten them with and what did it turn out to be? And they KNEW it perfectly!
And, nevertheless, returned! And this, no doubt, a feat in front of Russian culture!

Women do not need to be awarded, so as not to attract the attention of the Nazis, do everything quietly

[Ural resident]

Great, but the Scythian gold is still in Amsterdam ..

[seti]

Quote: A resident of the Urals

Great, but the Scythian gold is still in Amsterdam ..

It only speaks of the fact that someone has a conscience and someone does not have it at all.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: A resident of the Urals

Great, but the Scythian gold is still in Amsterdam ..

Yeah, but only the part that was exported from Crimea for exposure in Holland. And the gold that was in Kuev, during the first month after the Maidan with a light hand Senya Yatsenyuk was exported to the United States. If there is at least some little hope for a return on Crimean gold, then according to Kuevsky there is complete hopelessness. The Americans will never give it back, appropriating this asset as payment for part of the Ukaina debt to the United States.

[Altona]

In our news today, for half an hour, they’re talking about “unprecedented snowfall,” and about the hero pilot Roman Filippov who died in Syria, only a minute.

[Chichikov]

Why is someone obligated to someone? Crimea, then it was part of Ukraine and the museum workers, on both sides, acted on the basis of a signed agreement - as two subjects of Ukraine and according to the laws of Ukraine. In addition, the museum workers were also guided by the fact that the exposition contract involves insurance, with all the consequences for the organizer of the exhibition, and they did not intend to bear responsibility for this.
Political motives were added much later.

[Loess]

Ohm ... I don’t even know. It is one thing to criticize, and quite another to endlessly pouring mud on one’s own country.

[Dimy4]

In the style of our homeland, to risk our lives (reputation, freedom) and get a fig with oil or sparkle naked for this. on stage and get a medal. It all depends on the degree of engagement of a civilian. The military does not enter here with them, the situation is slightly different.

[flicker]

They returned the paintings because they were obliged to return them under the contract, though they returned them a little earlier. It would seem a common occurrence, but ... But Ukrainian prosecutors opened a criminal case ...

The Prosecutor's Office of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, together with the State of emergency of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, on September 07.09.2017, 5, reported suspicion to officials of the executive staff of the Mariupol Museum of Local Lore in a criminal offense under Part 191 of Art. XNUMX of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (appropriation, embezzlement of property or seizure by abuse of official position) "

Although it’s more correct:

Prosecutor's Office of Crimea (after the annexation of the peninsula temporarily located in Kiev, - Ed.) reported suspicion under Art. 191 of the Criminal Code to two employees of Mariupol ....

A small, accidental omission of the author.
According to the author, we should be responsible for all the insanity that is happening in Ukraine.
Let's say cashier N. sold the train. tickets to Russia. Then, for this, the Ukrainian themis began to judge her ... but, according to the author, Russia is to blame, because the tickets were sold to Russia. Interesting logic - the main thing is to kick your country. And yes, all this is presented under the guise of patriotism, of course.

[Loess]

Quote: flicker

Interesting logic - the main thing is to kick your country. And yes, all this is presented under the guise of patriotism, of course.

It is regrettable that there are individuals who welcome such an approach.

[flicker]

Moreover, very inventive ... even if there is no significant fact so they will find him anyway
and try to inflate to a universal scale ... though without much success.

[Karabin]

What should a really great power do in such a case?

Indeed, a Great Power would take its own in '14. Kharkov, Donetsk, Mariupol, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kherson, Transnistria. The Neutral Federation or Federated Neutralia, respectively, is neutral in relation to the shelling of Donbass and to the burnt Odessa. This does not concern us neutral, it is the Ukrainians who shell themselves and burn. This is their sovereign right. We follow international law and do not know any Russians. And that the paintings were returned, so our neutral thank you. But this is a personal matter of two women.

[Wolka]

Aksenov, oh! invite the heroes to live, tea is not strangers ...

[andrej-shironov]

So it’s a great power, not modern Russian power! Peskov and Matvienko can only express concern, nothing more.

[nord62]

and after all, the women really accomplished the feat, not on the battlefield, but quietly and calmly in the dust of their offices .... This should be said to the clown Solovyov and others, as well as to pay attention to Putin .... It’s correctly said - not to hang bells and whistles but to such inconspicuous people who fulfill their civic duty!

[_Jack_]

What kind of nonsense? You might think they returned these paintings so that they would become Russian. Crimea at that time was the territory of Ukraine. They, at the request of the Museum of Ukraine, returned the paintings back. What does Russia have to do with it? Who at that time knew that later this museum would become Russian? From scratch they came up with some kind of nonsense.

[boris]

For _Jack_.
Do not be silly. March 19, 2014 Crimea was no longer Ukrainian. Even formally. In fact, even earlier. So the paintings returned to Russia.

[_Jack_]

The referendum on March 16, on March 19 came to take pictures, aunts just did not have time to navigate, did not follow the situation, if they understood at that time that they were giving the paintings to Russia, they would not give up for anything, why would they suddenly transfer the paintings to another state ( more honored worker of culture of Ukraine). What did they recognize at the court that they deliberately conveyed pictures of Russia, like we love Russia and give her pictures? Do not tell me, it’s just that they didn’t orient in this mess, and that’s all. If they had given it intentionally, they would have asked for asylum in Russia, they certainly would not have been refused. Like, the paintings were deliberately transferred to another state and are sitting on the priest waiting for when they will be condemned for it. Rave.

[Lexus]

Russians do not abandon their - has sunk into oblivion?
Thank you Roman for raising this burning topic. . I am sure that in Russia no one has heard of this.

[Hlavaty]

Or maybe express gratitude in the form of citizenship and an invitation to work in one of the Russian museums?

Yeah, you’ll come from Putin ... He is trying not to give citizenship even to those who managed to get to Russia. And here he is, but in the form of gratitude ... And in the question of citizenship, all the arrows are precisely on Putin, just as they give citizenship by presidential decree.

Say thank you, and that’s all? ...
You can, of course, hang a medal, from those that pop stars are hung up.

But this is better not necessary - for women in Ukraine it can come out even more sideways.

A good lesson for the rest in Ukraine (and not only there), who will face a choice ...

Yes, this is no longer a lesson, but the normal operation of the “modern RF” system in relation to people loyal to it.
Fewer and fewer people will “stand before a choice,” and there is essentially no choice.

[c3r]

And why is this pathos from Roman Skomorokhov. What can not be done without accusations of power, talking heads, etc. etc. This is something that cannot be conveyed differently or this alarmist wants to take the jackpot out of husky readers from the crested readers, and at the same time tell the animals how to poison women. And it started and how they could, but it's a shame. humiliated and insulted! And thanks to the women and of course the offer of moving if of course they agree (they probably have families, apartments, households there)!

[businessv]

I don’t know about museums, but they sent to Crimea from mainland Russia their director of the memorial complex Panorama of the Defense of Sevastopol, who had previously worked in Volgograd, who dismisses guides and art historians, but is gaining protection. He successfully cuts the state budget with the comrades called up for this, destroying the trees listed in the Red Book (the Sapun-Gora complex is also under its jurisdiction, there is an active "repair") and at the same time changing the excellent granite paving stones to a shitty concrete remake. The fee for visiting the Defense Complex has been raised to 300 rubles. It seems a little, but if a family of 4 people, then you will think about whether it is worth learning the legendary history of the defense of Sevastopol, or maybe it is better to have lunch .... Therefore, it is unlikely in Russia, unfortunately, the heroic Mariupol women who simply did their job correctly will even say human thanks!

[Antares]

The court decided that Chaplinskaya and Kurenysheva were official and materially responsible, aware of the situation in the country in connection with the seizure of state buildings and government bodies of Ukraine in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol by the Russian military at that time.

so at least they could guess. Another request KIEv (although there was a mess, but the Ministry of Culture could answer, wait)
In general, they gave the paintings almost immediately to the request of the Crimea, which by then had already been captured / occupied / annexed / returned (who likes the wording of the next redistribution of borders).
The court took into account the remorse of both persons involved and released them from the main and additional punishment on the basis of the amnesty law.
The novel touched on a sensitive topic, where even commentators stated that the Russian Federation did not owe anything to Ukrainian citizens who wanted to return the paintings themselves. However, now the Russian Federation is not Russia for a long time, it is not worth waiting for gifts from it. Tea is not known in the world of personality, advertising on them can not be done. Ah yes. They are also citizens of Ukraine ..
Of course, I respect the choice of women, but they acted out of conscience, and not on duty, political convictions or out of a sense of future profit. They transferred the court, amnesty, consequences.
here it is now
Head of the Branch Museum of Folk Life
Chaplinskaya Olga Mikhailovna

[Rey_ka]

There seems to be international law "on the exchange of values ​​between museums." And first, Ukraine needs to prove how they appeared?

[Antares]

Quote: Rey_ka

"on the exchange of values ​​between museums

exchange or exposure rules.
But everything will rest on the recognition of the referendum. There is no international, there is no Ukrainian, Kiev has the right to refuse the transfer to the “former” museum before clarification of the circumstances. By the way, the Dutch are also Scythian gold.

[your1970]

Quote: Antares

There is no international, there is no Ukrainian, Kiev has the right to refuse the transfer to the “former” museum before clarification of the circumstances. By the way, the Dutch are also Scythian gold.

- Dutch people are easier - they don’t need to shout that “Crimea is illegally occupied”. The recognition by Kiev of the illegality of the return - automatically recognition that Crimea is part of a foreign state. Doubling of thinking, panimaesh .... © EBN

[iouris]

The problem is that the attribution of the authenticity of works of art is carried out by "experts." And this is a "community." And therefore, we will never know whether the picture is genuine or another rarity is genuine or fake. There are no constraints for "market thinking" ...

[aries2200]

HERE IS THERE WITH SCYTHIAN GOLD WHAT IS EXHIBITED IN HOLLAND ...? when they give it to the museum in the Crimea !?

[boriz]

Citizenship, work an apartment (at least help the difference in the cost of housing).
Belarus carried the flag - an apartment in Moscow. For the cause, of course, not a question. But these brought no less concrete benefits. Simferopol is not Moscow; the state will not become poor. And indicative of all.

[gsev]

Quote: Sergeant71

Yeah .... No words. Where are all these our talking heads when they are so needed? Solovyov, Mikheev, old and Zakharov! Awww! Make noise at least once with real good!

And why you yourself can not express your opinion and turn to others. In the age of the Internet, every person has no less opportunity to speak out to convince doubters of their opinion. Otherwise, it turns out "Russian silence." It seems that the story is interesting, the events are vivid, but historians often know about the events of 2 centuries ago in Russia from what was written by foreigners. My niece studied at MGIMO. But she does not know anything about key events around Russia, or rather, her knowledge is absolutely incorrect. Then she has to explain that mines are an important deterrent to a strong aggressor, that North Korea is too tough for the states, that if we give up slack, then the Americans will tear Russians apart like Indians in America or Taipins in China. And I give her an example of a good friend in the position of sergeant honey. service. He knows more, although all her knowledge is service and medical school in the North Caucasus.

[gsev]

Quote: _Jack_

The referendum on March 16, on March 19 came to take pictures, aunts just did not have time to navigate, did not follow the situation, if they understood at that time that they were giving the paintings to Russia, they would not give up for anything, why would they suddenly transfer the paintings to another state ( more honored worker of culture of Ukraine). What did they recognize at the court that they deliberately conveyed pictures of Russia, like we love Russia and give her pictures? Do not tell me, it’s just that they didn’t orient in this mess, and that’s all. If they had given it intentionally, they would have asked for asylum in Russia, they certainly would not have been refused. Like, the paintings were deliberately transferred to another state and are sitting on the priest waiting for when they will be condemned for it. Rave.

They acted on the conscience of an honest man and scientist. Since the end of World War 2, it has been accepted that museum values ​​should belong to the place where they are exhibited. According to this logic, the removal of Scythian gold from the Museum of Crimea and its transfer to Holland or Ukraine is the same crime for which Eichmann was executed in Israel. The Jews published an interesting scribe about that process with the accusatory speech of the then Israeli prosecutor. So, in his opinion, the murder of millions of Jews is not the worst thing that he did. Most importantly, he irrevocably destroyed entire centers of Jewish original culture in Uman, in Lviv, Sandomierz, Zhytomyr. The ban on the Russian language, violence against Russian culture in Ukraine is the same crime. And all these Khodorkovsky, Gribuskayte, Kolomoisky do what Eichmann did not have time.

[Phoenix_L'vov]

I am bitter to say this, but the Russian authorities most often spit on those who put their health, freedom, life for the sake of Russia and the Russians - as a rule, almost always if it is not a citizen of the Russian Federation, and very often, even if it is a citizen of the Russian Federation.
After such news, people don’t even know what to fight for, and whether or not to do anything at all ...

[Brigadier]

Will they invite? Thank you? Offer a good job in gratitude for saving the national treasure?
Apparently, the author forgot that now we have not the Soviet Union, but capitalist Russia ...
So, these brave women who saved the paintings from Bandera may not count on this ...
Cap.country with us ... What else can I say ...
The only hope ahead is the 2018 elections, where the people can choose a different leadership, instead of the current one controlled by the West and completely rotten!
EVERYONE VOTES FOR BREAST !!!

[alavrin]

Where can I put + per article?

[Aleks2048]

Maybe it’s not worth making a noise? Of course, I'm sorry, but the question is rather to the court in Ukraine, why was it condemned? A policy should be separate.

[colonel manuch]

Well done !!! Honor and praise to them, they really deserve citizenship and housing and work in the territory of the Russian Federation!

[Kudrevkn]

"Deserved"? They are not Depardieu, they are just honest women !? And, alas, defenseless before state arbitrariness ?!

[Kudrevkn]

Write to NTV Andrei Norkin and Olga Belova - it will be good! Refer to the "First" or "Russia 1" - "send"? From my own experience I know how federal channels (editorial staff) prepare materials? Alas, "a sick head ... does not give rest and hands" !?

[insular]

Roman Skomorokhov, and you are not a Ukrainian by any chance? And then you have a peculiar logic. Ukrainian courts, contrary to Ukrainian laws, decide on the punishment of citizens, again, of Ukraine ... A GUILTY MOSCOW! (according to Skomorokhov, this is how it goes)

Not headed, not saved ...
Have you asked these women? Do they need it? Or maybe they invited, but they refused?